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Speaker 1: Welcome on it All to the Hemmer Territory Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Sean Coleman. Hope, wherever you are and wherever

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Speaker 1: you are listening, you are having a great week so far,

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Speaker 1: and for once, I'm not going to have to back

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Speaker 1: that up by saying, hopefully you're not letting the fact

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Speaker 1: that you're a bravesman get in the way of you

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Speaker 1: having a good week, because hey, the Braves are having

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Speaker 1: a second straight good week in a row. As always,

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Speaker 1: my podcast partner, Stephen Tolbert is with me. Stephen, I

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Speaker 1: feel I don't want to take it for granted, but

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Speaker 1: we're doing podcasts now where we're talking about wins. Consecutive wins,

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Speaker 1: four straight wins for this Braves team. It was great

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Speaker 1: to see a seven to one victory on Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: Spencer Stroud was absolutely excellent. The offense is starting to

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Speaker 1: show a bit of consistency and we needed to do

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Speaker 1: exactly what we said we needed to do a sweep

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Speaker 1: of arguably the best team in the n AL, the Mets.

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Speaker 1: This Braves team still has a long ways to go.

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Speaker 1: If they're putting together the steps that they need to

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Speaker 1: start that journey. We all want them to start.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up, buddy. It's been great. It's been what

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Speaker 2: we expected most of the year. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: what we thought we were gonna get in April and May.

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Speaker 2: And the pitching has been unbelievably good. And we're gonna

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Speaker 2: talk about Spencer first. Spencer's gonna be the first segment tonight,

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Speaker 2: and just having him not only perform and produce the

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Speaker 2: in terms of velocity, in terms of swing and miss, like,

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Speaker 2: it's just super encouraging how he looks, even if the

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Speaker 2: results weren't there, how he looks is fantastic. And then

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Speaker 2: add in the fact that he's also getting results and

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Speaker 2: the team is getting results. You know, this is probably

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Speaker 2: as good as they've looked all year if you combine offense, pitching,

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Speaker 2: bullpen like, this is the first time we've seen them

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Speaker 2: even kind of put it all together at one time

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Speaker 2: for any sort of you know, multiple game stretch. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is this is what we thought we were signing

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Speaker 2: up for. They've won five out of or seven out

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Speaker 2: of nine. Obviously, just swept the Mets, the division leader,

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Speaker 2: going to Miami. You got a chance to continue it, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: big big stretch and it's finally nice to see the

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Speaker 2: Atlanta Braves look like the Atlanta Braves.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and this is the stretch you know, that we

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Speaker 1: had all been waiting for. We got it, We got

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Speaker 1: a similar stretch up in April, but then we fell

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Speaker 1: right back into it, you know, and especially you know,

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Speaker 1: this is exactly what we needed to see. But do

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Speaker 1: want to give credit to your point to Spencer Strider.

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Speaker 1: Spencer Strider who came back from the Eternal Race surgery,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Tommy version of the Tommy John surgery.

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Speaker 1: You know, his first five or six starts, it looked

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Speaker 1: and there was speculation out there, there were think pieces

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Speaker 1: But then the start against the Rockies came and you

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Speaker 1: Now you think to yourself, oh, it's just one game,

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Speaker 1: And then he comes out tonight and looks the exact

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And I'll tell you the moment that I started

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Speaker 2: And listen, everybody knows about his calves, everybody knows about

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Speaker 2: I remember Mike Foltonovitch came to camp one day throwing

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Speaker 2: all good signs. And even if the Brads had lost it, honestly,

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Speaker 1: And the other thing that stands out about this just overall.

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Speaker 1: in the show, But Steven, this is a reminder of

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Speaker 1: know that the Braves have also had their struggles over

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Speaker 1: But this is just a reminder of what we're capable of.

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Speaker 1: If we can at least get to the dance, we

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Speaker 1: a big part of that is because of that three

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, the Braids are catching the Mets at

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Speaker 2: which was weird. But the Braves were also made them pay.

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Speaker 2: Obviously they're winning games consecutively, but they're also winning games decisively,

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Speaker 2: It's when you actually beat a team seven to one,

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Speaker 1: Of course, the Braves performance on the field is certainly

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Speaker 1: If you go back to spring training. Picture by the

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Speaker 1: it came to one of the showcase games for minor

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Speaker 1: I think he's elevated through three different levels of the

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Speaker 1: in just a moment after a word from our partners,

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Speaker 1: Winday's up to this point to get this offer and

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Speaker 1: the analysis over to Garrobe to give us a bit

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Speaker 1: more on point. Is Steven, what to your thoughts? I

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Speaker 1: know neither one of us are really prospect guy. But

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely not a prospect guy. Mel At the

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Speaker 2: experts handle the prospect stuff. I will say this. I

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Here a Territory podcast, and we

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Speaker 1: Is it the right move? Just an awesome, awesome development

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Speaker 5: Every single coach, every single scout I have talked to

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Speaker 1: Of Course, obviously the mental makeup is you know, that's

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Speaker 1: for his stage and how that split finger could potentially

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Speaker 1: take him to the next level, even at the major

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Speaker 1: league level.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, totally. So we just talked about how he came

434
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Speaker 5: into the organization in twenty twenty three. We've already seen

435
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Speaker 5: a complete shift in how he pitches. Twenty twenty three,

436
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Speaker 5: he was fastball, curveball, change up. We fast forward to today,

437
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Speaker 5: the change up doesn't really exist. Instead, he's added a

438
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Speaker 5: really not even added. He added a splitter a couple

439
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Speaker 5: of seasons back, but he has not used it a ton.

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Speaker 5: That splitter is so good that the Braves have. Again

441
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Speaker 5: this is unofficially, but by looking at his starts, by

442
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Speaker 5: charting his pitches, you can tell that the Braves are

443
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Speaker 5: completely sold on it, don't They're not worried about it.

444
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Speaker 5: What they wanted to see was increased command of his

445
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Speaker 5: second of his other secondaries, he had an amazing curveball

446
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Speaker 5: to start off. He got rid of that almost completely

447
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Speaker 5: end of last year beginning of this year, and he

448
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Speaker 5: was primarily fastball slider. Now that slider has shown great

449
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Speaker 5: improvement since the very beginning his first start in Gwinett

450
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Speaker 5: is when he brought back the curveball. So you're seeing

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Speaker 5: again nineteen at the time, now twenty, you're seeing a

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Speaker 5: really young man Alter and listen to again I've I

453
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Speaker 5: just said it. Listen to his coaches Alter, his approach entirely,

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Speaker 5: be willing to work on things day in and day out.

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Speaker 5: And what makes is we I want to specifically talk

456
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Speaker 5: about that fastball because this fastball sits around ninety five

457
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Speaker 5: to ninety seven. If he wants, you can get it

458
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Speaker 5: up to ninety eight ninety nine. But why it generates

459
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Speaker 5: so many whiffs is because his vertical approach angle is

460
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Speaker 5: less than four degrees. We've seen the data has shown.

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Speaker 5: And if there's a great article on pitch er List,

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Speaker 5: if anyone is interested, go to I will definitely go

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Speaker 5: tweet it out after this. If you're on Twitter, you

464
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Speaker 5: can you can find me and look it up. But

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Speaker 5: there is a great, great article talking about the dynamics

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Speaker 5: of a low approach vertical approach angle, and what we've

467
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Speaker 5: seen over the past four or five years is with

468
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Speaker 5: being able to especially stay within three to five degrees

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Speaker 5: that is elite territory, and we're seeing a huge amount

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Speaker 5: of whiffs from that exact approach angle. So he's able

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Speaker 5: to not only be on the upper end of a

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Speaker 5: specific pitch, but he's in the elite category already as

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Speaker 5: a twenty year old. You factor that with then a

474
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Speaker 5: slider that darts away, a curveball that has it sometimes

475
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Speaker 5: gets a little bit vertical. For me, I wish to

476
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Speaker 5: see a little more horizontal movement just you see, so

477
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Speaker 5: there's a little more separation between his pitches and then

478
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Speaker 5: that splitter that just dies down. It's incredible, and he's

479
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Speaker 5: only going to continue to work on it. The Braves again, like,

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Speaker 5: I don't think they expected this kind of ascension because

481
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Speaker 5: they have been throttling his pitch usage in between each

482
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Speaker 5: star and just this last one we saw fastball curveball

483
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Speaker 5: as opposed to fastball slider that we've seen for most

484
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Speaker 5: of the season. So it's going to be interesting that

485
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Speaker 5: first start against tomorrow, luckily it is against the Marlins,

486
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Speaker 5: to see what kind of pitch mix they go with.

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Speaker 5: I'm expecting a heavy dosage or fastball slider with some

488
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Speaker 5: curveballs sprinkled in, just because he hasn't thrown that splitter

489
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Speaker 5: too much. But again, I mean, he's got such a

490
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Speaker 5: talented arm. You might be able to see that splitter

491
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Speaker 5: that he hasn't thrown barely at all this year come

492
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Speaker 5: back and become, you know, one of those top tier

493
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Speaker 5: pitches and potentially in Major League Baseball we have. I

494
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Speaker 5: don't think it's quite there yet, but I would probably

495
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Speaker 5: put splitter gray round around a fifty five to potentially

496
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Speaker 5: a sixty.

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Speaker 1: So obviously he has elite stuff, but that doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: to be the driving force as to why he is

499
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Speaker 1: ascended so well in the Brave system. Not necessarily seeing

500
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Speaker 1: it so far in MLB rankings, but in the Brave

501
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Speaker 1: system you've seen it a lot of times. You just

502
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Speaker 1: see pure I guess you could call it filth stuff

503
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Speaker 1: be the driving force for ascending young pitchers. But to

504
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Speaker 1: your point with him, the fact that he puts such

505
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Speaker 1: an emphasis on knowing the you know, science or metrics

506
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Speaker 1: or whatever part of it and making sure that he's

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Speaker 1: consistent with the productive setup. That's really what kind of

508
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Speaker 1: sets him apart from other pitching prospects. His age to

509
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Speaker 1: go along with the natural elite stuff that he has,

510
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Speaker 1: and that also could be why you may see him

511
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Speaker 1: set himself apart at such a young age to take

512
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Speaker 1: on the moment and be a bit more consistent than

513
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Speaker 1: some may expect pitchers his age to.

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Speaker 5: Be no totally. And again, what he does so great,

515
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Speaker 5: especially is the command of all the pitches. Now you

516
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Speaker 5: don't see that. You typically will see a premiere starting

517
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Speaker 5: pitcher at that age be able to locate his fastball

518
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Speaker 5: and be able to locate his fastball lower in the zone.

519
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Speaker 5: But what Wints can do is he can locate all

520
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Speaker 5: four pitches. Now, I will say the fastball, the slider,

521
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Speaker 5: and the splitter are the best, and the curveball is

522
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Speaker 5: lagging a little bit behind. But he's still able to

523
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Speaker 5: throw that curveball when he needs to. But the fastball itself, again,

524
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Speaker 5: it is such a ridiculous pitch, and he's able to

525
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Speaker 5: lean on it consistently, throwing at sixty five or sixty

526
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Speaker 5: five to seventy percent of the time, which then allows

527
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Speaker 5: that element of surprise. And on top of that, it's

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Speaker 5: his ability to command those pitches. He can live in

529
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Speaker 5: the higher in the upper thirds of the zone with

530
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Speaker 5: his fastball, which is extremely hard to do. Just think

531
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Speaker 5: about the science behind throwing a pitch right. You're gonna

532
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Speaker 5: throw it down. But he's able to keep that ball

533
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Speaker 5: elevated higher in the zone and it makes it so

534
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Speaker 5: difficult for hitters to perceive and to be able to

535
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Speaker 5: keep that swing up high and make contact with it.

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Speaker 5: So it is truly one of the fastest ascensions I

537
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Speaker 5: can remember well, strolling back last year. We can't even

538
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Speaker 5: talk about that with strolling back and a J. Smiths

539
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Speaker 5: slav But we have seen so much development each year

540
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Speaker 5: from him and coming into this year. At the very beginning,

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Speaker 5: I think it took maybe two starts. Braves MiLB Or

542
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Speaker 5: Garrett and I were talking and we said, you know what,

543
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Speaker 5: we think he's got it with Drake Baldwin and in

544
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Speaker 5: Atlanta and not coming back. We think points us as

545
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Speaker 5: a legitimate shot of being our number one prospect. And

546
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Speaker 5: as each start happened, of course there was some time

547
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Speaker 5: with blisters that he missed, but as each start happened,

548
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Speaker 5: there was no reason for us not to think that

549
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Speaker 5: way because of the ability to command all of his

550
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Speaker 5: pitches at this age.

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Speaker 1: So going into kind of what this setup will be,

552
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Speaker 1: we've talked about the reasons why he's here, why the

553
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Speaker 1: Braves are trusting him with this opportunity. I want to

554
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Speaker 1: get your perspective because I think it's a very valuable

555
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Speaker 1: perspective on what success looks like in this opportunity, and

556
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Speaker 1: then we'll build off that as we wrap up this

557
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Speaker 1: segment of the show with Guarabdic talking about the incoming

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Speaker 1: the incoming debut of d d Or Foe. T is

559
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Speaker 1: the thing that I'll ask you, is this just straightforward?

560
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Speaker 1: What does success look like to you for for win

561
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Speaker 1: test in this starting against the Marlins. Is it a

562
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Speaker 1: certain amount of innings, It's the amount of you know,

563
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Speaker 1: first piss strikes he get working through trouble, the overall

564
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Speaker 1: pitch approach, what to you would stand out as being

565
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Speaker 1: a clear sign of success. And this guy with more

566
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Speaker 1: seasoning is going to get the job done at the

567
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Speaker 1: major league level.

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Speaker 5: That's honestly a fantastic question, and that's that's really difficult

569
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Speaker 5: to answer. I think everyone has their own barriers of success.

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Speaker 5: For me, I would love to see his ability to

571
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Speaker 5: spot the fastball and generate withs. If he's able to

572
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Speaker 5: do that at the major league level, everything else will

573
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Speaker 5: come into place. But if he's generating with already against

574
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Speaker 5: the elite of the elite talent. Now it is the

575
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Speaker 5: Miami Marlins, and some you know, you could gay people

576
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Speaker 5: have said, you know, you can call them a buada

577
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Speaker 5: or a Triple A team, but like they are still high,

578
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Speaker 5: they're still some of the best athletes in the world.

579
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Speaker 5: And if he's able to generate whiffs from that fastball,

580
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Speaker 5: that only means every other pitch he has is going

581
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Speaker 5: to play. Now will he command them all? Like who

582
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Speaker 5: knows there's gonna be so much adrenaline pumping through his veins.

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Speaker 5: He just turned twenty two days ago, Like, how can

584
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Speaker 5: you not be absolutely amped up to show? And I

585
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Speaker 5: know that the scout that found him is going to

586
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Speaker 5: be at the game as well, so he's gonna want

587
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Speaker 5: to like try and prove everyone right. But for me,

588
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Speaker 5: I don't really care. I don't think he's going to

589
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Speaker 5: go more than maybe four innings. He hasn't really. He's

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Speaker 5: been capped about three and a half to four point

591
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Speaker 5: one innings, is right around his average on the on

592
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Speaker 5: the year, and it's because he struggled with some blisters.

593
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Speaker 5: They're just slowly working him up. And they've slowly been

594
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Speaker 5: working him up, you know, from Double A to Triple

595
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Speaker 5: A and now and now major league and on the

596
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Speaker 5: major leagues right, So I don't expect him to pitch

597
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Speaker 5: too much. Probably hover around seventy five to eighty pitches,

598
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Speaker 5: get through four may five innings would be outstanding. Five

599
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Speaker 5: innings probably means he only gives up two or three runs,

600
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Speaker 5: which would be, you know, an absolute dream for me.

601
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Speaker 5: But I just the main thing I'm focusing on. I

602
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 5: don't really care about the results because I think he's

603
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Speaker 5: going to be a really good pitcher in the in

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Speaker 5: the show. I want to see if he can locate

605
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Speaker 5: that fastball and if he can still generate those whisks,

606
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Speaker 5: because then the sky's the limit for him.

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Speaker 1: Well, then let's talk about how quickly that sky could

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Speaker 1: be reached in to the opportunity to reach that. As

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Speaker 1: we wrap up this segment with Aguero Vidik on the

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Speaker 1: debut of DiDia for Wints, the big question then that

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Speaker 1: I want to end with is is what happens after

612
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Speaker 1: this start? Say we see for Wintes throw five innings,

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Speaker 1: one run ball, six strikeouts of the Marlins. Now, my

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Speaker 1: my assumption is is that, as you mentioned, and you're

615
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Speaker 1: absolutely correct, he's being brought up so the Braves can

616
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Speaker 1: position their pitching staff to go against the Mets again

617
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Speaker 1: early next week. Is there any chance that we see

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Speaker 1: for Wints get a second start out of this, or

619
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Speaker 1: is there the potential to where we see what he

620
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Speaker 1: does at the major league level. Now he goes and

621
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Speaker 1: gets more season than at Triple H at Triple A,

622
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Speaker 1: sorry the wrestling reference there at Triple A. The thing

623
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Speaker 1: that I'm getting at is, though, is that we also

624
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Speaker 1: clearly have seen bullpen struggles so far this year. Is

625
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Speaker 1: he a potential option later on this year to be

626
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Speaker 1: someone for the home stretch, hopefully for a playoff push

627
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Speaker 1: that could work into that bullpen I don't know if

628
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Speaker 1: it makes sense with how the Braves will continue to

629
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Speaker 1: handle him so far, But does he have the potential

630
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Speaker 1: to stick in the majors depending on how he does

631
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Speaker 1: with this start, and if not, could we potentially see

632
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Speaker 1: him later on in the season, maybe in a bullpen roll.

633
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Speaker 5: So like in a in a starter role. I don't

634
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Speaker 5: necessarily see it because the Braves still have five quality

635
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Speaker 5: starters right there. There's there's no reason to not let

636
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Speaker 5: Grant Holmes pitch every fifth day. I'm gonna go ahead

637
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Speaker 5: and say that, But I think the the arm talent

638
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Speaker 5: is there, There's no there's no way around it. I

639
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Speaker 5: think the best route for him would be to go

640
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Speaker 5: back to Triple A, continue to develop his arm, get

641
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Speaker 5: those innings, because he can't be relied on to at

642
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Speaker 5: least go five. If you can't go five, I don't

643
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Speaker 5: think they can. You can turn to him on every

644
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Speaker 5: you know, every fifth game basis or fifth day basis.

645
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Speaker 5: But I love the idea of his arm coming out

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Speaker 5: of the bullpen, you know, in September, getting to sit

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Speaker 5: and talk with Chris sal with Spencer Strider, picked their

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Speaker 5: brains after the season's over, be able to understand what

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Speaker 5: it takes to get through a full one hundred and

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Speaker 5: sixty two game season from the pros that I've done

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Speaker 5: it before, and just have him unleashed in the bullpen.

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Speaker 5: He's right now, even with this tiny, tiny sample size

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Speaker 5: he is. He'd be one of the most talented arms

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Speaker 5: back there. And I love the idea of bringing him in,

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Speaker 5: you know, potentially in a much lower leverage situation. You know,

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Speaker 5: if a starter, he goes out early, have him come

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Speaker 5: into the sixth, work his way up to maybe the

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Speaker 5: six or seventh inning, and then have him just again

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Speaker 5: stit in that dugout and learn from those guys after

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Speaker 5: the season ends. I don't I think it'd be rushed

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Speaker 5: a little bit if they try and force him into

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Speaker 5: the rotation and he's going, you know, four innings each time,

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Speaker 5: and you got fans stroll, oh, this guy can only

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Speaker 5: last four and giving him three, which would already be fantastic.

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Speaker 5: That's already a great that's already a great result from

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Speaker 5: a twenty year old making their debut. But I think

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Speaker 5: in the best interest right now, it makes the most

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Speaker 5: sense for him to make the Spots start, go back

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Speaker 5: to Triple A, finish the season out there, and then

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Speaker 5: come back to Atlanta and be completely unleashed in that

671
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Speaker 5: bullpen because he has not pitched too much to start

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Speaker 5: the season. His arm should still perfectly be fined towards

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Speaker 5: the end of it to be able to come up

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Speaker 5: later in the season for the Braves.

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Speaker 1: And we also know that Atlanta has had previous success.

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Speaker 1: They they they they've had no qualms about bringing some

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Speaker 1: of those young's arms. Spencer Stryder, you know two A J.

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Speaker 1: Smith Shover has appeared in both of the last postseasons,

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Speaker 1: So them bringing up a young arm not necessarily they

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Speaker 1: brought him up in a bullpen roll, but they have

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Speaker 1: no qualms about putting that young arm into the fire.

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Speaker 1: And it certainly seems like Fuintest could be the next

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the ham Territory podcast and cannot thank

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Speaker 1: again Girl Videck for taking the time to talk with

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Speaker 1: us about d d here for win tes where we

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Speaker 1: could see him going after this start. Hopefully it'll be

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Speaker 1: a successful start, but it's going to be really exciting

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Speaker 1: to see one of, if not the best arms in

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Speaker 1: the Brave system be in the spotlight on the mound

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Speaker 1: in Miami for the Big League squad to open up

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Speaker 1: the series tomorrow night against the Marlins. But let's talk

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Speaker 1: about one aspect of this team that we have been

732
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Speaker 1: clamoring to get consistent for quite a while, and that

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Speaker 1: is the offense, because on Thursday night, I talked about

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Speaker 1: it a few times this year, Stephen, in which this

735
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Speaker 1: offense is able to display that they are capable of

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Speaker 1: winning games in a different way other than displaying power

737
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Speaker 1: or having luck or what have you. They won on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday night by a solid approach at the plate, putting

739
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Speaker 1: balls in play like they should have, be impatient and

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Speaker 1: going with the pitches that were pitched to them, and

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Speaker 1: more than anything, getting on base. Nine walks on Thursday

742
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Speaker 1: night the first time that they have had nine walks

743
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Speaker 1: in a game since July fourteenth of twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: That's nearly two years since they've had this much production

745
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Speaker 1: walking in a game, and that's awesome to see. They've

746
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Speaker 1: not gone more than two years. They've not gone that

747
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Speaker 1: long with a stretch between games where they had nine

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Speaker 1: walks since twenty sixteen to twenty nineteen. So that is

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Speaker 1: really an encouraging sign. But the big thing of all,

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Speaker 1: and I know I've harped on this, but I think

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Speaker 1: that it's worth harping on. For the first time this year,

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Speaker 1: the Braves have scored five or more runs in three

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Speaker 1: straight games and they won all three games. They're seven nine.

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Speaker 1: They're seven to two over their past nine games, five

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Speaker 1: point four runs per game. Remember, this is a team

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Speaker 1: that wins eighty three percent of its games when they

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Speaker 1: score five or more runs twenty four and four this

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Speaker 1: year when they score five and more runs. If they

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Speaker 1: could just do that consistently, that's the aspect of this team.

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Speaker 1: That's the turnaround we're talking about that they need to

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Speaker 1: win at the rate that they need to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what I was talking about about, how

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Speaker 2: the team actually looks good. It's not just winning games,

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Speaker 2: but they look the part. They're scoring runs, they're winning decisively.

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Speaker 2: The offense is putting up you know, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: say they're putting up great at bats, but they're putting

767
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Speaker 2: up much better at bats throughout the lineup. Now, listen,

768
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Speaker 2: it starts with Akunya and Olsen. Both those guys have

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Speaker 2: ops's over one thousand in June. Obviously, Acuna has a

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Speaker 2: twelve hundred ops overall, but he's been probably the best

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Speaker 2: player in baseball since he came back up. But Olsen

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Speaker 2: has kind of joined him, and now the Braves have

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Speaker 2: two legitimate, like star level hitters in their lineup. At

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Speaker 2: the same time, we're still wedding on Austin Riley, We're

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Speaker 2: still wedding on Marcel. If they could get all four

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Speaker 2: of those guys going at one time, then I would

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Speaker 2: feel even better than I do right now. But having

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Speaker 2: two Ozzy Albi's had a pretty solid series. I want

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Speaker 2: to give a shout out to Nick Allen because Nick

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Speaker 2: Allen just had a really good series against the Mets.

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Speaker 2: He's up to like a three to zero nine on

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Speaker 2: base percentage. CJ Nikowski tweeted out that he has like

783
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: eight walks in since Ronald came back or something like that,

784
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Speaker 2: which helps a ton. You know, we talked about before

785
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Speaker 2: about I don't like the fact that Ronald so often

786
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Speaker 2: is is batting with no protection around him, and you

787
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Speaker 2: and I talked about that on the last show. Well,

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Speaker 2: when Nick Allen gets on base, it changes the equation.

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Speaker 2: You know, you can't pitch around Ronald as much when

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Speaker 2: there's already a guy on base. It's when there's two

791
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Speaker 2: out and nobody on in Ronald comes up and you

792
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Speaker 2: got Dugo batting behind him. Now you can definitely pitch

793
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Speaker 2: around Acuna. And we saw multiple times in this series

794
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Speaker 2: Alan get on base, a double, a walk, whatever, and

795
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Speaker 2: they had to pitch to Acunya. And that's set up

796
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Speaker 2: multiple rallies that the Braves had in this series. And

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Speaker 2: so listen, I know, Michael Harris, we're not gonna have

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Speaker 2: a massive Michael Harris conversation. We cant have a small

799
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Speaker 2: and we're not gonna have a massive one, just because

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Speaker 2: again vibes are too good for that. But Nick Allen

801
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 2: getting on bass has helped a lot. Alex Radugo has

802
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Speaker 2: actually swung the bat better in the two hole than

803
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Speaker 2: he did before. I still don't like him there, but

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Speaker 2: to his credit, he has improved. You know, it was

805
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: good to see Drake Baldwin get a couple of He

806
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 2: got a hit in a couple of walks to night.

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Speaker 2: He'd been scuffling. Both catchers have actually been scuffling pretty

808
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Speaker 2: good lately, so that was good to see. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: offense looks better, and it starts with a Kunyan Olsen.

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Speaker 2: It always starts with a Kunion Olsen. Those are the

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Speaker 2: two best hitters on the team. I've said that for

812
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Speaker 2: multiple years now, but they need the other guys as well.

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Speaker 2: They need Riley and Ozuno specifically to really kind of

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Speaker 2: find it again, and then this offense could really be elite.

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Speaker 2: I mean not just good, not just above average, not

816
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Speaker 2: just five runs a game, but one of the best

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Speaker 2: lineups in baseball. And you know, that's kind of the

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Speaker 2: step we're still waiting for.

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Speaker 1: So the reason that I wanted to lead this final

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Speaker 1: segment of the show with the offense starting to get

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Speaker 1: that consistency, starting to get that approach, that's what's going

822
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Speaker 1: to have to maintain. That is going to have to

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Speaker 1: continue to be the case going into this weekend because

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Speaker 1: we talk about the fact that our pitching staff, we

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Speaker 1: positioned our pitching staff in this Mets series to have

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Speaker 1: our three best going and we were clearly head and

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Speaker 1: shoulders be better pitching staf that switches. This weekend, you're

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Speaker 1: looking at Dder for Wintes against Jason junk who's looked

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Speaker 1: pretty good so far in his outings that he's had.

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Speaker 1: For the Marlins. Uri Perez, who was wants to arguably

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Speaker 1: the best pitching prospect in baseball. He had had Tommy

832
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Speaker 1: John surgery. He's back, he's looking like he's putting it

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Speaker 1: together in an elite fashion. And of course you have

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Speaker 1: sand A contra but I know that he struggled to

835
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Speaker 1: for much at the start of the season. He's starting

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Speaker 1: to look like his old self once again. You've got

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Speaker 1: those three going again and against Dre for Wintes, Grant

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Speaker 1: Holmes as well as Bryce Eller. The Marlins happy advantage

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Speaker 1: in this series when it comes to starting pitching. So

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Speaker 1: where the Braves are going to have success is flexing

841
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Speaker 1: their offensive months muscles against the Marlin's offense. The problem, Stephen,

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Speaker 1: and that you've hinted at multiple times is that before

843
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Speaker 1: ten go this Marlin's offense had actually scored more runs

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Speaker 1: on the season than the Braves. So the point that

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Speaker 1: I'm getting at is that for the Braves to continue

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Speaker 1: this momentum, for them not to fall off like we've

847
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Speaker 1: seen so many times this season, they have got to

848
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Speaker 1: keep the offensive consistency going, not just power, but putting

849
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Speaker 1: together good at bats because they're gonna face some quality

850
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Speaker 1: pitching in this Marlin series. A series you expect to

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Speaker 1: win it, but it's gonna be tougher than I think

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Speaker 1: many anticipate because of how good of the arms the

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Speaker 1: Marlins are throwing over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, I don't want the Bryce Elder people

855
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Speaker 2: to get mad at me again. Bryce Elders has pitched

856
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Speaker 2: better this year, so it's not just like Bryce Elder's pitching.

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Speaker 2: So the offense needs to score six runs or they'll lose.

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Speaker 2: It's very possible Bryce Older could go out and throw

859
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 2: a really good game against the Marlins. It's very possible

860
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: Didier Flintes could come out in his major league debut

861
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: and throw really well. Grant Holmes is thrown extremely well

862
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 2: this year. Just struck out fifteen guys into his last start,

863
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: so you know, it's not impossible. The Braves could not

864
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: do great on offense and still win two out of

865
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: three or maybe even better. But it would make things

866
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 2: a lot easier if they just score, if they just

867
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: do their job and score runs. I really wish that

868
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: Junk was a junk ball pitcher. I don't think he is.

869
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: I think he throws like ninety five ninety six. But

870
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: if your last name is Junk, I really need you

871
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: to like an eighty three mile an hour leg. I

872
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: need you to be like a Jamie Moore type.

873
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 5: The fact that he's not is disappointing.

874
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 2: But like you said, he's had a good year. And

875
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: then you know, they've got a couple other guys that

876
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: are that are decent. They're not great, but they're decent.

877
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: You know, Sandy has had it up and down Yere,

878
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: but obviously everybody knows his you know, his ceiling is incredible,

879
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 2: So it wouldn't shock anybody to see him come out

880
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: and dominate the Braves in a game. He's done it before.

881
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: So the offense needs to the offense does need to

882
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 2: show up. And what I don't want is to have

883
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: all of this really great momentum and then just go

884
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 2: give it all back in Miami where you lose two

885
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: out of three, God forbid, you get swept because you

886
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: can't score, and then you're just kind of right back

887
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 2: where you started before all this. Like and that's the thing,

888
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: what the about where the Braves are right now? Even

889
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: as well as they've played, they dug themselves such a

890
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: hole that they can't afford to take their foot off

891
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: the gas. Like if they go out and lose three

892
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: or four in a row after this, they're just right

893
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: back in the same hole, like because they played so

894
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: poorly for so long, they need a prolonged stretch month

895
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: two months of playing high, high level baseball. They cannot

896
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 2: afford to go and lay an egg in Miami just

897
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: because they had a good week against the Mets. So

898
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: this was a great week. This was a great sweep,

899
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: their first sweep since middle of April. Awesome. It's always

900
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: fun to beat the Mets. I don't care where time

901
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: of year it is, what the standings are, It's always

902
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 2: fun to beat the Mets. I love beating the Mets.

903
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: But you can't. You can't rest on those laurels because

904
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: you dug yourself too big a hole. You gotta go

905
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: out to Miami. You gotta take care of business, and

906
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 2: then you got to come back, go to New York,

907
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: gets to the Mets again and take care of business. Like.

908
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 2: They don't have the luxury of letting up. They're just

909
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: they've just dug themselves too big a hole. So keep

910
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: it going. You should beat You should at least one

911
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: two out of three against the bad Miami team. Braves

912
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: are much better than Miami. Full stop. Two out of

913
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 2: three is the expectation. Sweep would be great, but anything

914
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: less than two out of three is a disappointment.

915
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: It's the absolute truth. They've got to keep the momentum going.

916
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: But again, I feel like that we're in a spot

917
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: now more than we have been you know in the past.

918
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: You know several weeks that this team can do it

919
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: and the opportunities right there, but they've got to make

920
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: sure that they focus on the fact that even though

921
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: on paper they're going to be facing a weaker opponent,

922
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: that pitching quality is going to be there. So it's

923
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: only offense, especially early, to get the job done. Stephen,

924
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 1: do you have anything else for us as we wrap

925
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: up this edition of the Hammer Territory Podcast?

926
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: And I will say this, having a Kunya Olsen both

927
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 2: red hot does give me more confidence that it's not

928
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: going to be as fleeting as the offense has been

929
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 2: in the past, where we've seen them have a good

930
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: game and then the next night they score one run

931
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: or the next two nights they score one run. When

932
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: your two best hitters are hitting like your two best hitters,

933
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: I do have a higher level of confidence that this

934
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: team is not just gonna give it all back in Miami. Now,

935
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 2: they've burned me plenty of times this year, so if

936
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: it happens, we're of course going to talk about it.

937
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,959
Speaker 2: But with the kunyan Olsen going, that is at least

938
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 2: a higher baseline level than they've had before this point,

939
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 2: So you know, that's a to you know, be a

940
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: little more positive and optimistic. I do think that that

941
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: those two guys hitting so well matters and should help

942
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 2: them avoid this, you know, this bottom falling out of

943
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 2: the offense, which we've seen so many times this year.

944
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: Hopefully that's the case.

945
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely Again, this past series shows when our best is

946
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: at their best, we could play against the best and

947
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: have success.

948
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 2: So that they can be they can be at anybody, anybody.

949
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, and they're good. But they're going to have

950
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: to do that frequently.

951
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: And listen when Sale, When Sale and Strider and Schwallenbach

952
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: pitch like this, yeah they could. They could win a

953
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 2: World Series with that rotation right now. How good those

954
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: three dudes are pitching. There's nobody in baseball he's got

955
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: three dudes who can pitch like that at their top,

956
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: they can they can play with anybody. So they just

957
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: got to.

958
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: Keep it going. Hopefully they will, and that's that's where

959
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,160
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00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,879
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961
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