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Speaker 1: University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. Here are your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Kim Carmen named Gerard Cherry eighteen and the rivalry could

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Speaker 1: University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Readio Network. Gerard Evening, my friend,

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Speaker 1: Hello Kenneth, wonderful to hear your voice, Wonderful to see

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Speaker 1: you here We go with four downs first, A tough

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Speaker 1: let me ask you what way through your mind as

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Speaker 1: actually in the basement. I was cleaning something up, and

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Speaker 1: I walked upstairs and I saw the ambulance on the

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Speaker 1: on the field, and I asked my wife. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: what happened? And she was still a podcast so she

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Speaker 1: didn't even know. And then, you know, real quick I

434
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Speaker 1: realized like it was a serious situation. UM, And anytime

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Speaker 1: you see that, you know, as NFL football players, we

436
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Speaker 1: understand we put our bodies at risk when you go

437
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Speaker 1: out on the field, but you never expect that risk

438
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Speaker 1: to be a life or death situation. You know, you

439
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Speaker 1: think that you can recover from. And UM, to see

440
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Speaker 1: that and to see that, you know, what was was

441
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Speaker 1: truly truly shocking and sad. And I know the NFL

442
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Speaker 1: and NFL UM teams did a great job of of

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Speaker 1: you know, getting their first responders did an amazing job

444
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Speaker 1: and stuff. And and hopefully he can pull through. I know,

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Speaker 1: the whole community, the whole world really you know, behind

446
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Speaker 1: him right now and trying to give him as much

447
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Speaker 1: support as possible. But it's a shocking situation and you

448
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Speaker 1: never expect something like that to have it on the

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Speaker 1: football field. Geoe Btonio joining us on the show, did

450
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Speaker 1: you guys talk about as much as a team we did?

451
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Speaker 1: We we mentioned, I mean, we play this game it's

452
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Speaker 1: in our league. He's one of our brothers, and so

453
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Speaker 1: the team talked about it. You know, we have counselors

454
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Speaker 1: if we ever need to talk to somebody about those situations.

455
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Speaker 1: Even the families and stuff can get involved because it's

456
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Speaker 1: it's a shocking and truly truly tragic event and um,

457
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Speaker 1: you know, obviously we're hoping for the best, but you

458
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Speaker 1: never know what those situations. How could things change across

459
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Speaker 1: the offensive line for you or how that how has

460
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Speaker 1: that changed been across the offensive line for you guys

461
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Speaker 1: with what technically with Michael Dunne, what four different centers. Yeah,

462
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Speaker 1: it's it's uh, it's been different. You know. I think

463
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Speaker 1: Po has played really really well this year though he's

464
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Speaker 1: you know, when he's been in there, but obviously you

465
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Speaker 1: know that things has changed. So he's been in the

466
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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks and I think you've seen you know,

467
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Speaker 1: the run game and stuff come back. But um, it's

468
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Speaker 1: one of the things we're working through, you know. And

469
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Speaker 1: the old line is, uh, it's such a tough position

470
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Speaker 1: because we can keep five guys in the field, it's

471
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Speaker 1: a it's a huge advantage for you. Um, but when

472
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Speaker 1: you lose a guy. You gotta be ready for the

473
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Speaker 1: next man up. And I think those guys that have

474
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Speaker 1: come in of have really done an admirable job. But

475
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Speaker 1: now I've I've had a you know, a real pleasure

476
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Speaker 1: playing with po this year. Have there been challenges for

477
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Speaker 1: you because of the weather, Like you go from negative

478
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Speaker 1: twenty to sixty and Washington and I think this Sunday

479
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Speaker 1: should be okay in Pittsburgh. Is there like I don't know,

480
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Speaker 1: does it affect your skin or does it affect your

481
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Speaker 1: your feelings, your your health? What does it affect I

482
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Speaker 1: don't know if it affects your feelings, but you get

483
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Oh yeah, weather Man, it's a it's

484
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Speaker 1: a big one. Now. Honestly, I've never I was trying

485
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Speaker 1: to downplay the coldness. I'm not gonna lie to you.

486
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: I was freezing that game against the Saints. It was very, very,

487
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Speaker 1: very cold. It felt like a summer day in Californian

488
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Speaker 1: in uh in you know, Washington, like no humidity. It

489
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: was like sixty degrees, you know, just have a nice

490
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Speaker 1: little sweat, a little breeze coming through the stadium. Um,

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Speaker 1: So it was good. I was actually looking forward to

492
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Speaker 1: the sun because we had been in such a cold,

493
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Speaker 1: you know weather here in Cleveland. But sometimes you do

494
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Speaker 1: get that. You go down and play in Florida and

495
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 1: you come back home and it's like ice snow out,

496
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Speaker 1: you know, and you're like, this is this good for

497
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,959
Speaker 1: my immune system? Right now? You don't really know. You're

498
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: trying to stay on top of your sleep and your vitamins,

499
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Speaker 1: but it's NFL. You know, you never know what you're

500
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Speaker 1: gonna get week to week. Did you wear sleeves in

501
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: that States game? I did not, but I have a

502
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Speaker 1: giant elbow brace on my right um, so that kind

503
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Speaker 1: of takes up a little bit. But no, my skin

504
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 1: was definitely showing, and you could tell whatever was showing

505
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Speaker 1: and whatever wasn't showing. It was cold. I had a

506
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Speaker 1: thermal like cut off underneath and some thermal pants, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think anything was really helping. You know. That

508
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Speaker 1: was like you come to the sideline, it was actually

509
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Speaker 1: hard to breathe with like how cold old. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it was like the water vapor in it

511
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Speaker 1: or how cold it was, but like it was tough

512
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Speaker 1: to breathe after you got going like three or four

513
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Speaker 1: plays in a row that game. I can imagine. I

514
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Speaker 1: mean I can't imagine because I was leaving to go

515
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: back and as I was walking back and went to

516
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Speaker 1: talk to somebody and like takes your breath away the

517
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Speaker 1: wind coming in off the off the lake. But it

518
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Speaker 1: will be a better situation. Getting ready for Pittsburgh on Sunday.

519
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Speaker 1: Their team trying to make the playoffs. You're team trying

520
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: to take them out of the playoffs. Obviously, that's been

521
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Speaker 1: a big conversation all this week. And you have a

522
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Speaker 1: rookie playing quarterback against she and Kenny Pickett, and he's

523
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Speaker 1: had a couple of big drives to save them over

524
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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. What have you noticed that

525
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Speaker 1: their defense has done over these last few weeks to

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Speaker 1: keep them in ball games. I think it starts with

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Speaker 1: t J watt Um. You know, he kind of missed

528
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Speaker 1: the good first part of the season. Um, you know

529
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Speaker 1: his injury, but he's come back, and I mean they've

530
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Speaker 1: really turned it around that their run defense is improved immensely.

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Speaker 1: And then you know when they make you pass the ball,

532
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Speaker 1: they can they can really get off into the pass

533
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Speaker 1: with him and Camp Hayward, Um, you know Ox Highsmith

534
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Speaker 1: on the other edge, so they're doing a lot of

535
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Speaker 1: a lot of good things. You know, this weekend's BAALTI more.

536
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Speaker 1: When Baltimore went heavy, they put six linemen pretty much

537
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Speaker 1: on the field and two linebackers or like we dare

538
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Speaker 1: you to run the ball, so um, I mean we

539
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Speaker 1: dare to throw the ball, We're gonna stop the run.

540
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Speaker 1: So it's uh, it's definitely a challenging front, and we

541
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Speaker 1: know they have a lot to play for. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a testament to their you know, coaching

543
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: staff of getting those guys ready to play every week

544
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Speaker 1: and and where they were at the season to be

545
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Speaker 1: in a physician to possibly make the playoffs is pretty impressive,

546
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Speaker 1: and I think we'll be up for the challenge. Joey,

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Speaker 1: thank you for the time, all the best. Thank you

548
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Speaker 1: Joe Matonio joining us in the players spotlight. Will we

549
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Speaker 1: come back? We'll go around the league. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns preview show on the University Hospitals Cleveland

551
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Speaker 1: Browns Radio Network. When loser draw, if you don't play

552
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Speaker 1: the standard, there's corrections to be made and there's things

553
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Speaker 1: to be done that are gonna benefit the team. And

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Speaker 1: we're all trying to work to those goals. This is

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns Preview Show. You're listening to the University

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Speaker 1: spot today, Gerd. We go around the league and the

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Speaker 1: first thing up factor fiction. Lamar Jackson is a raven.

565
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Speaker 1: When training camp opens up seven months from now, who

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Speaker 1: who doggies? The answer is fact it would take them

567
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: more than one season. They need to prepare for his

568
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: jettison grant. You can said, can they do in the offseason?

569
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Speaker 1: But no, they're not let him going right now. They're

570
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: getting more and more examples of why through Huntley's play,

571
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Speaker 1: why he's so important they'll franchise him. They'll give him

572
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Speaker 1: forty something million dollars in the process to do that.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say fiction, he will be there. Keep

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Speaker 1: I think it's fiction. I think he'll be there. I

575
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: know that that we're gonna hear some We're gonna hear

576
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Speaker 1: some zesty rumors. I think we're gonna hear some some

577
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: zesty things. You know, this is gonna be interesting here

578
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: cause I want to see how the contract plays out.

579
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Speaker 1: Does he come back down to earth a little bit?

580
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: Did they come back to him a little bit? And

581
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: do they make a deal here? Do we figure out

582
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: because they've been a terrible I mean they've been scoring

583
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: what twenty eight points a game with him, and then

584
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: without in what eighteen points a game? Like some of

585
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: that drawd You gotta get it figured out going, Hey,

586
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: would we have been a different offense without with Lamar Jackson? Yes?

587
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: Would we have been better? Yes? Would we have had

588
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: a chance at it? Probably? You know That's these are

589
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: conversations that I think they need to have in Baltimore.

590
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: And I just think it's a little it's a little

591
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Speaker 1: cocky to go, oh, we'll find another Lamar Jackson out

592
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: there and all that and that. Well, one, you know,

593
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: they don't grow on trees exactly, and they don't come

594
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: out of draft. But every ten of fifteen and twenty years.

595
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Speaker 1: So if they're thinking that, which we know they're not

596
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Speaker 1: because they're a sound organization, they'd be crazy. But we

597
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: know they're not thinking that. What they're thinking, though, Ken

598
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 1: is we don't want the Joe Flacco experience again. Will

599
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: we give all our money to a quarterback and we

600
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: have no way of building around him. That's what they're

601
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,719
Speaker 1: trying to avoid. And maybe they can come to some

602
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: type of agreement and get Lamar to see that and

603
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: understand that. But if I'm Lamar, no, why would I

604
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: do that? Because he's gonna watch Joe Burrow get paid,

605
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: He's gonna watch Herbert get paid, and he's gonna say,

606
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Speaker 1: you know what, why am I not getting paid? He

607
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: already saw Deshaun Watson get paid, and I think that

608
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: that's part. I think that's part of it. I wonder

609
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Speaker 1: you don't when when when you see guys get money

610
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Speaker 1: him Russell Wilson, Um, I'm sure, And you brought up

611
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: Joe Burrows only a matter of time, Josh Allen getting paid.

612
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Speaker 1: Mark Jackson's an m v P. Mark Jackson's an m

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Speaker 1: v P. And when you and I'm talking emotionally here,

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Speaker 1: I'm not an agent. Lamar Jackson has his own representation

615
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: and his mother also helps represent him. Not say anything

616
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Speaker 1: bad about a man's mother. That's not what I'm trying

617
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Speaker 1: to do. But you understand I'm an emotional person, so

618
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay emotional things. I'm sure he's prone to

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Speaker 1: do something like that too. So when you see other

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks get paid, and especially in your division, Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: is gonna get paid, Deshaun Watson already been paid, You're

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Speaker 1: you're seeing other guys get paid. Yeah, you're gonna want

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Speaker 1: to get your money. And so I think for him,

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00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: you're right about what you say there. I think the

625
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Speaker 1: Ravens want to try to get him to see whatever

626
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Speaker 1: reality they're trying to get him to see. Because I

627
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: think you do make a valid point going, hey, you

628
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Speaker 1: don't want to have it all on you, or you're

629
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Speaker 1: gonna you're a running guy, You're gonna suffer some consequences there.

630
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Speaker 1: Even if you're a guy who stays in the pocket,

631
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna suffer some consequences there. I mean that's scary,

632
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: and especially where you have guys like Ronnie Stanley who

633
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: they've paid and has been hurt. I think that's scary

634
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Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson. I'm gonna be interested to see how

635
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: this plays out. Gerard, Yeah, it's funny though. Patrick Mahomes

636
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Speaker 1: doesn't get that though, right. I mean he's getting paid

637
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: more than Mark. I mean he has a same contract

638
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: a million dollars exactly, But we don't argue about that.

639
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers obviously gives his money. We don't argue about that.

640
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Speaker 1: And Grant Lamar has not won the Super Bowl. Of

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Speaker 1: those guys who I just mentioned have done just that,

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Speaker 1: So that's a distinguishing factor from him. And obviously how

643
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Speaker 1: they play quarterback is distinct and different from how he

644
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Speaker 1: primarily gets the job done as well. So if I'm

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Speaker 1: the Ravens, I'm gonna just pretty much have to be

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Speaker 1: frank with him and like, hey man, we'll just keep

647
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Speaker 1: paying you forty something million dollars until we figure this

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Speaker 1: thing out, and then we know that you're professional and

649
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Speaker 1: we'll get the best out of you, and you get

650
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Speaker 1: the best out of us, and we'll meet we'll try

651
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Speaker 1: to meet you somewhere down the road two years from

652
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Speaker 1: now when we lose control. Basically, that's where all they

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Speaker 1: can do. He's still got a few more years or

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Speaker 1: a couple more years on the franchise tag. So there's

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Speaker 1: the way you can do that, I guess, and I

656
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Speaker 1: hate doing it, but I hate kicking the can down

657
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Speaker 1: the road or it feels like you're paying off one

658
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Speaker 1: credit card with another where when you do franchise like that,

659
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Speaker 1: But you can always do it that way. Who wins

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Speaker 1: the FC South Tennessee or Jacksonville They're playing Saturday Night?

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Speaker 1: Ah Man, I'm hoping for Dobbs and have a good performance,

662
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Speaker 1: but I just feel Jacksonville now is the front run.

663
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Speaker 1: They played tremendous last week and I think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: beat down the Titans. So I'm going with the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: They're hot Saturday night, and Jacksonville is a wild city.

666
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Speaker 1: I've been there, You've been there. I think that crowd

667
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Speaker 1: is gonna be wild, and uh, I think they got it.

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Speaker 1: I'm pulling for Josh Dobbs. I'm really I really am.

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Speaker 1: He's a great, great guy, but uh, I think Jacksonville

670
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Speaker 1: is gonna do it. I think Jacksonville is gonna be

671
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Speaker 1: able to knock him off. Which of the following division

672
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Speaker 1: winners is the most susceptible to losing in the opening

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Speaker 1: round of the playoffs, Minnesota or Tampa Bay. I think

674
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Speaker 1: I already know your answer, shower down as Minnesota. I

675
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: mean they should they should have lost ten games this

676
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Speaker 1: year and read it, of course, and then you know

677
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Speaker 1: a good one. I'm riding and die with Tom Brady

678
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: and I should you see how I mean. And granted

679
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Speaker 1: they're slow starts, aren't helping their cause, but come on,

680
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Speaker 1: can you watched Minnesota and you watched them again miraculously

681
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Speaker 1: win against the Bills and then that whole thirty three

682
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Speaker 1: point comeback giving props because they're the ones who put

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Speaker 1: it in place, but they allow to allow the tooth

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Speaker 1: take place. But no, I have to say, Minnesota, I

685
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Speaker 1: think they are so so not that team. And right

686
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Speaker 1: now it's fair to say that the Green Bay Packers

687
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Speaker 1: are better football the team of them and possibly the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions in that division. Quick next Christmas, This coming Christmas,

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Speaker 1: Jim Harball will be in Denver, Carolina, or still at

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Speaker 1: Michigan or somewhere else. I got phillion. The Waton is

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Speaker 1: gonna give, make him offer he can't refuse. So I'm

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Speaker 1: going with Denver. A blue lights special note down, and

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Speaker 1: that is around the league. Coming up next, the voice

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Speaker 1: of the your Cleveland Browns, Jim Donovan, will join us

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Speaker 1: to recap the Commander's game and preview Sunday's matchup against

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. You're listening to the Cleveland Browns Preview

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Speaker 1: Show on the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. This

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Speaker 1: is the Cleveland Browns Preview Show on the University Hospitals

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Radio Network. Here are your hosts, Kim Kerman

700
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Speaker 1: and Gerard Jerry Brown Steelers coming up on Sunday. You'll

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Speaker 1: hear it right here on the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: Radio Network. Gerad Cherry, who co hosts this show, will

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Speaker 1: be on the sidelines for that one. Nathan's Girl will

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Speaker 1: be in the booth with the voice here Cleveland Brown's

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Speaker 1: Jim Donovan, who joins us right now on the hotline. Jim.

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Speaker 1: Good evening, Good evening, guys. Good to be with you. Jim.

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Speaker 1: First things first, I have to ask you about tomorrow, Hamlin,

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Speaker 1: Monday night it plays out, You're seeing all this unfold.

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Speaker 1: What what were you thinking as you saw what was

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Speaker 1: going on down in Cincinnati? Well, can I have to

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Speaker 1: tell you I was very excited, I think like millions

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Speaker 1: of people uh to watch the game, because I think

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Speaker 1: everybody had a ticketed to be the game of the year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody knew that they were going to meet

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Speaker 1: each other, it was gonna be late in the season, uh,

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Speaker 1: and that they were both going to be great at

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Speaker 1: that time of the year. And indeed they were following

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Speaker 1: through with that, and the way the game started, it

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Speaker 1: looked as though it was going to play out that way.

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Speaker 1: It was an electric atmosphere and the two teams were ready,

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Speaker 1: and then the worst possible nightmare, uh can happen with

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Speaker 1: that playing out and the injury to Tomorrow Hamlin on

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Speaker 1: the field, and I was just I just sat and

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Speaker 1: and watched and I think, you know, my mouth was

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Speaker 1: just wide open, and I was just shocked at what

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Speaker 1: was going on and what was gonna happen next, and

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Speaker 1: what was going to happen after that, and you know,

728
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Speaker 1: what was going to happen with the updates throughout the night.

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Speaker 1: I think I stayed up till about three in the morning,

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Speaker 1: waiting and listening to ESPN, CNN to see if there

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Speaker 1: would be more news or any kind of news, and

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Speaker 1: certainly any kind of uh positive news coming out of

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Speaker 1: the University of Cincinnati Medical Center that was that is

734
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: the worst nightmare. I think that can happen at any

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Speaker 1: sports event or any event anywhere, but certainly at a

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Speaker 1: sports event which seventy tho people in a stadium and

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Speaker 1: millions of people watching on live television. And Jim, speaking

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Speaker 1: of live television, you're a sports anchor obviously the voice

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Speaker 1: of Cleveland Radio as well. The job that those Aikman

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Speaker 1: and Joe Buck as well as fall In Cobert had

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Speaker 1: to do in regards to that situation, How impressed were

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Speaker 1: you with what they had to do in or in

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Speaker 1: ring that tremendous and tragic situation. Well, Gerade, there's no

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Speaker 1: script for anything like that. I mean, you could go

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Speaker 1: into a game and I'm sure Joe Buck and Troy

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Speaker 1: Aikman and Lisa Salters, uh and all of the people

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Speaker 1: on the pregame show. I mean, you know they had

748
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Speaker 1: done their homework for the game. You know, what is

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati gonna do? What will Buffalo try to do? Uh?

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Speaker 1: And you kind of have a you know, you can

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Speaker 1: play the game out in your mind, but there is

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Speaker 1: no script for anything like that. I mean, you don't

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Speaker 1: know what's going on. There isn't a great deal of

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Speaker 1: information I'm sure streaming into you coming through your headset,

755
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Speaker 1: into your ear and you know, into your brain to

756
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Speaker 1: kind of really update people. Um, sometimes saying nothing is

757
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: perhaps the best thing because it's the most honest emotion,

758
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: because really you could hear a pin drop in that stadium.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody didn't know what to do because nobody

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Speaker 1: knew actually what was going on or the severity of it.

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Speaker 1: But as it played out, I thought they did a

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Speaker 1: great job. I mean, just an admirable job to get

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Speaker 1: through that. I mean, you go back, I go back

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Speaker 1: to when Jim McKay had to do the Olympics the

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Speaker 1: day of the Munich massacres of the Olympic Games there.

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Speaker 1: And you know, they show that in television classes and

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Speaker 1: broadcasting classes all across the country in various universities, that

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Speaker 1: the the ability to be able to talk on your feet,

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Speaker 1: to you know, talk off the top of your head,

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Speaker 1: but to be able to put something in the right

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Speaker 1: mood and to be able to carry it and not

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Speaker 1: try and do too much, but do the appropriate thing

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Speaker 1: and be intelligent about it. And I think across the

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Speaker 1: board they all carried that out brilliantly. Yeah, a lot

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Speaker 1: of common sense. Jim Donovan joining us here on the show. Jim,

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00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: there is football to fight coming up this Sunday. There

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Speaker 1: was football played on Sunday between the Browns of the Commanders.

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Speaker 1: A big conversation that was had was the type of

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Speaker 1: game that Deshaun Watson had against wash In. What type

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Speaker 1: of game did you think that he had against Washington?

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Speaker 1: I thought he had a frightening game in the first half, Ken,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was really worried about it because I

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Speaker 1: think going into the game, we felt even after the

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Speaker 1: you know, the Frozen Arctic game against New Orleans on

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Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve, you know, the last drive of that game,

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Speaker 1: he played very well. I mean it didn't finish the

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Speaker 1: way we all wanted it too, but he did play

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Speaker 1: well considering the conditions. So I think we were looking

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Speaker 1: for steady progress, and I think in the first half,

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Speaker 1: I mean there was no progress. There were you know,

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Speaker 1: there was just nothing going on, and it really became

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Speaker 1: kind of a an alarming situation. But um, it completely

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00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: turned around of the second half, and I thought he

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Speaker 1: was terrific. I mean, I thought he was really good.

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Speaker 1: I thought they were really good with him, and that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be the important thing. Can as we go along here,

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Speaker 1: there's a marriage that has to go along and that

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Speaker 1: has to happen here between the Bronze offense and Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson and vice versa Watson and the rest of the offense.

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Speaker 1: And I think in the second half of the game Sunday, uh,

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Speaker 1: the nuptials and the nuptials with that marriage we're in,

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00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: we're in very good view. I mean, they were terrific together.

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Speaker 1: Everything was flowing, and if that's a little snapshot of

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna have in the future, well, it looked

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Speaker 1: pretty good to me and Jim looking at the team

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Speaker 1: in its entirety, I felt, especially in the second half,

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Speaker 1: that you saw signs of complimentary football, which we talked about.

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Speaker 1: And with that in mind, I'm excited for this weekend's

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Speaker 1: game against the Students because I really do believe that

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Speaker 1: it's based on what I heard in the after bath

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Speaker 1: of the game and excitement in the locker room, that

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Speaker 1: this team truly wants to finish out the games the

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Speaker 1: season is strong. By playing this game with a lot

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Speaker 1: of intention, well, I'm happy to hear that and I

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Speaker 1: definitely saw that gerade. I mean, when you're eliminated from

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, as is the case after Christmas Eve, you wonder,

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Speaker 1: h You know, you can say you're gonna play hard,

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Speaker 1: but are they gonna play hard? And I thought they

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Speaker 1: did play hard the entire game, even the rough patch

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Speaker 1: that the offense had in the first half. But I

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Speaker 1: thought defensively they were good all day long. And I

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Speaker 1: know they had the one tough drive and long drive

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Speaker 1: that they gave up, but I thought the effort was great.

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Speaker 1: Now they carried that into a big game here coming

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Speaker 1: up on Sunday. It means, you know, a lot to

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Speaker 1: the Steelers, but don't fool yourselves. It means a lot

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Speaker 1: to the Bronze to go four and two inside the division,

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Speaker 1: to sweep these guys for the first time since UM

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Speaker 1: and to kind of claim a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: hold on this rivalry once again. I think it's very

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Speaker 1: very important. But just the fact that they play good

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Speaker 1: football on the road in a tough setting, and that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a tough setting for them on Sunday, UM,

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Speaker 1: I think that's very very important. That would be a

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Speaker 1: major step and it would give you a really good

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Speaker 1: feeling going into the offseason and getting set for next year. Jim,

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Speaker 1: we thank you very much for the time, all the best,

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Speaker 1: and of course we'll talk to you coming up on

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Speaker 1: Sunday morning before the game. All right, guys, look forward

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Speaker 1: to it, Have a good night. Thank you you as well.

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Speaker 1: Jim Donovan, the voice of your Cleveland Browns, joining us

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Speaker 1: on the hot line. When we come back, we'll put

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Speaker 1: the fish finish touches on this one. Tell you about

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Speaker 1: the Kevin Stefanski Show coming up on Thursday, and get

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Speaker 1: ready for Sunday morning as we'll get you sent for

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Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon and kickoff between the Browns and the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Cleveland Browns Preview Show on the

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Speaker 1: University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's Radio network. When loser draw, if

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00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: you don't play the standard, there's corrections to be made

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00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: and there's things to be done that are gonna benefit

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Speaker 1: the team, and we're all trying to work to those goals.

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Speaker 1: This is the Cleveland Browns Preview Show. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: Kim Carmen and Gerad Cherry Thursday Night, The Kevin Stefanski Show,

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Speaker 1: seven pm, all along the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio

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Speaker 1: Network coach Kevin Stefanski and Bronze wide receiver A Marii

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Speaker 1: Cooper gonna be joining Nathan Sigura and Gerard as the

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Speaker 1: Guy's countdown the days to Sunday sees the finale with

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. And with that, Gerard, what are you

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Speaker 1: watching for Sunday against Pittsburgh? Buddy, Well, want to see

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Speaker 1: if we can bring that intensity and then what's necessary

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Speaker 1: to beat this team and sweeping for the season and

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Speaker 1: derail Mike Thomas. What having a losing record for the

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Speaker 1: first time in his career and its first or the

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Speaker 1: first time in his career he would be under five hundred,

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Speaker 1: So that'd be an awesome feat to achieve. And then

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Speaker 1: other part two is obviously strength against strength, their defensive

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Speaker 1: front against our offensive line, and how do we handle

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Speaker 1: that and what Deshaun Watson does against someone who hasn't

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Speaker 1: played for in a uniform for the Browns and how

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Speaker 1: he competes and if that's a good outing, obviously we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be positive about that and looking forward to the future.

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Speaker 1: So those are the things I'm looking for. Offensive line

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Speaker 1: play with even posts are coming back. I hope to

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Speaker 1: be able to get the run going, but they've been

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Speaker 1: seven I gets the run this year, Gerard. The Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: Steelers have. It might be a little bit tougher sledding

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Speaker 1: than we thought it could be. Certainly will be, and

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Speaker 1: it's always gonna be the case with the Steelers. They're

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Speaker 1: not gonna give you anything. You have to go take

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Speaker 1: what you want and go get it because they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna give it to you with the Steelers. But I

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Speaker 1: anticipating though it means something for the Steelers, it does

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Speaker 1: mean something for us to and I say it in

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Speaker 1: that and that definition description because the fact that again

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Speaker 1: it's your rival and it's an opportunity to shut them

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Speaker 1: out of the playoffs and send a message into the

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Speaker 1: following season that we are not to be trifled with.

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Speaker 1: Now you're gonna have to play a tight game defensively, Gerard,

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Speaker 1: because just because you look at the interceptions that Kenny

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Speaker 1: Pickett has thrown, He's thrown nine in twelve games, but

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Speaker 1: only one over the last handful. They've really shortened the

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Speaker 1: routes and have rained him in. They really have not

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Speaker 1: gone vertical over the second half of the season. Not

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of opportunities for takeaways for this

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Speaker 1: Brownze football team, maybe until the fourth quarter, because you

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Speaker 1: know that's when he gets nuts. That certainly is. But

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Speaker 1: what I love is the fact that you will have

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to put that big body of raggling into

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Speaker 1: the defensive front with the deepensive line. What that represents

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Speaker 1: along with Carter, I love what I've seen none of

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Speaker 1: them and Jones as well, and Phils give him some

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Speaker 1: credit because he's been attacking machine. And I'm hoping to

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Speaker 1: see Grant del Delpa continue to do what he's done

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Speaker 1: in the first So Thursday Night, the Kevin Stefanski Show,

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Speaker 1: all along the u H Browns Radio Network coach wide

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Speaker 1: Receiver Amari pop are gonna be joining Nathan and Gerard

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Speaker 1: and then Sunday morning not am Brown's Game Day. Gerard

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Speaker 1: and I I love it. I am the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: Kickoff Show with myself, Andy Baskin and Thomas Pale than

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Speaker 1: one pm kickoff from Atrischer Stadium in downtown Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Jim,

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Speaker 1: Nathan and Gerard a big thanks as always to Jason Gibbs,

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Speaker 1: our executive producer, doing a great job all this year.

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Speaker 1: Technical producer Meredith Kane, always fantastic. Associate producer Connor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: always fantastic as well. For Gerard Cherry, I'm Ken Carmen.

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Speaker 1: Thank you as always for listening to the University Hospitals

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Radio Network. You've been listening to the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns Preview Show. Join us next week for more behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes Brown's news from Barria. We always look at

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Speaker 1: each game is how do we win this game? And

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Speaker 1: what does this game call for. This broadcast is a

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