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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Ryan Warmley, joined as I am every Friday morning, by

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Speaker 1: Pat fitz Morris and by Derek Brown. We are doing

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Speaker 1: our Key Questions episode.

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Speaker 2: For Week four.

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Speaker 1: Quick reminder that all of our weekly consensus rankings and

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Speaker 1: tiers can be found at fantasypros dot com slash rankings.

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Speaker 2: Not only is the season.

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Speaker 1: You know, going fast as it always does, we're in

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Speaker 1: two week four, Like I said, we are also into

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Speaker 1: the early games. We have vikings at Steelers which is

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Speaker 1: in Ireland and it is you know, one of our

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Speaker 1: international early games. So it's going to be a very

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Speaker 1: long Sunday for everyone watching football, hopefully a very fun

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Speaker 1: sunday for everyone, Hopefully a very lucrative sunday in your

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Speaker 1: fantasy teams.

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Speaker 2: And if you're making any bets as well, I just do.

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Speaker 1: I just want to quickly ask before we dive into

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Speaker 1: the game, Debrow, like I am adamantly opposed to this

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Speaker 1: expansion of the international games. I don't need a nine

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Speaker 1: Eastern whatever time it is. I don't need these early starts.

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Speaker 1: Once a year as a novelty is fine. I don't

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Speaker 1: need this like five or six week stretch where we

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Speaker 1: have it in the middle of seemingly every season now

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Speaker 1: and it's only getting more and more.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel about it.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that that's necessary.

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Speaker 4: Like I wish the NFL would take away the Thursday

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Speaker 4: night games and then move to like a Friday night

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Speaker 4: game and then like I like the Monday doubleheaders and stuff,

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Speaker 4: But all the international stuff, it's like, I get it,

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Speaker 4: and I understand, like the the global reach of the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I understand all.

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Speaker 4: Of that, but it doesn't make it as as much

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Speaker 4: of a novelty when it becomes so much more commonplace.

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Speaker 1: I agree, by the way, on those Thursday games, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you'd be very difficult if you said,

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Speaker 1: we're just going to do them during the time of

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Speaker 1: year where they are byes and always just make it

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Speaker 1: two teams coming off a bye and then you don't

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Speaker 1: have this like immediate turnaround, and then you can do

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Speaker 1: the opener still as well because they have plenty of

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Speaker 1: time before that. That's kind of my thought on the Thursdays.

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Speaker 1: Fit's what do you think about all these international games?

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Speaker 1: I expanded the game, but it just feels like it's

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Speaker 5: I would like to see fewer of them, maybe one

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Speaker 5: or two of year, not five or six or whatever

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Speaker 5: it is this year. I dislike those more than I

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Speaker 5: excuse me. I dislike the overlapping Monday games more than

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Speaker 5: I dislike the early Sunday games. The overlapping Monday Night

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Speaker 5: games just really annoying me. I'd like to, you know,

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Speaker 5: I want Monday Night games to be standalone games. I

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Speaker 5: want to be able to like watch all of whatever

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Speaker 5: game there is. And the first set was okay when

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Speaker 5: they did not overlap and we got two games, that

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Speaker 6: The overlapping ones.

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Speaker 1: Well, all the East Coast folks had big complaints about

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Speaker 1: the Yeah, but.

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Speaker 4: Everybody thinks they look like everybody talks like they're in

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Speaker 4: East Coast, East Coast time zone, things that like the

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Speaker 4: rest of the world lives in eCos Deever.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what times on you like, because

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Speaker 1: the other day on Twitter you were crapping on Mountain

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Speaker 3: Sometimes made up. We all know that. I mean, they're

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Speaker 3: all things. I'll count on one hand how many people

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Speaker 2: Every time zone is.

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Speaker 1: I believe Denver has the most employees of any city

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Speaker 1: at our company, so you should show some respect to mountains.

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Speaker 5: But by the way, Deebro, we're never getting NFL games

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Speaker 5: on Friday nights. They're just never gonna high school football.

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Speaker 5: There are too many NFL fans whose kids play high

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Speaker 4: And it never gets Saturday night because and then it'll

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Speaker 3: So yeah, no, I know, just wish thinking.

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Speaker 2: I just think that we can move on after this.

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Speaker 1: I just think that, like, the limited availability of football

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Speaker 1: if there was one hundred and sixty two games, like

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Speaker 1: a week, those games will be way more popular.

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Speaker 2: Like, I think the.

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Speaker 1: Scarcity of football is a huge part of its appeal,

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Speaker 1: and if you get rid of that, I just think

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Speaker 2: I don't like him.

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Speaker 1: It is my Point's let's dive into that Ireland game

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Speaker 1: Vikings at Steelers, and I want to ask about Jordan Adison,

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Speaker 1: who is coming back off suspension. Fitz will start with you,

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Speaker 1: how will Jordan Addison's return from suspension impact the Vikings

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Speaker 1: passing game for fantasy managers.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it'll be a big impact in this game. Like,

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Speaker 5: it's possible we only see Addison play maybe half to

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Speaker 6: I'm sure he's not.

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Speaker 5: He's probably in cardio shape after being away from the team,

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Speaker 5: no hitting for him. Can't imagine he walks right and

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Speaker 6: A couple of days ago that was it.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, so, like, I'm not expecting a six catch,

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Speaker 1: Do you see any impact fits for what Adison does

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Speaker 6: Not those guys. But I would not start Jalen Naylor

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Speaker 6: or Adam Thielen this week.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know how many people were starting them regardless,

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Speaker 1: but it's fair to point out, do you what do

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Speaker 1: of the offense as a whole with Addison back, And I.

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Speaker 4: Think it's it's better things moving forward with the Vikings. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: the acquisition of Adam Thielen has been pretty useless, like

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Speaker 4: he's been a ghost at the beginning of part of

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Speaker 4: And I mean, I'm with VIZI that, like, I don't

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Speaker 4: have a good day man. Like this Pittsburgh secondary has

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Speaker 4: been god awful, Like just they have been nothing close

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Speaker 4: and looking at the coverage structure. Pittsburgh has been single

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Speaker 4: high heavy for the last two seasons. We know we're

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Speaker 4: gonna get that. This year's sixty seven percent of the

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Speaker 4: defensive snaps against that. Last year, Addison tore it up man.

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Speaker 4: He had two point two yards per route run, twenty

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Speaker 3: The matchup is good.

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Speaker 4: I think even on limited snaps, like even if he

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Speaker 3: Like I got him at wide receiver thirty four this week.

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Speaker 1: Uh, did you guys think think about Addison when ranking

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz this week? Like, does he actually go up

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Speaker 4: I didn't only because I don't think he's like Carson

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Speaker 4: Wentz is gonna throw a ton. And this is also

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Speaker 4: a good game to lean on Jordan Mason because the

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Speaker 4: Steelers run defense has been pretty bad.

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Speaker 5: Right, That's kind of where I'm at with Wentz. I've

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Speaker 5: got him QB twenty seven. I just think they're trying

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Speaker 5: to hide him as much as possible. But you actually,

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Speaker 5: Deebro did make a pretty good case for Addison. I

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Speaker 5: might have to move him up a little. I've got

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Speaker 3: Where do you have him at right now?

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Speaker 5: I'm like in the fifties with him like fifty three

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Speaker 5: I should probably have him in the forties.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Let's go to Commanders at Falcons. This

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Speaker 1: four yards per carry. It's not like we would consider

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Speaker 1: sitting Bjeon Robinson under any circumstance, but debro is this

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Speaker 1: a defense that could give him some trouble?

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'm not worried about it, to be honest, just

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Speaker 4: because if you look at how good Bijon and looking

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Speaker 4: just by yourself, then it's more concerning like Washington, like

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Speaker 4: if you look at on paper the matchup, they do

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Speaker 4: like the Giants don't have a good offensive line. The

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Speaker 4: we're not saying like he's not out here ripping fifty

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Speaker 4: And Ashton Genty again, terrible offensive line. I think more

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Speaker 4: been a function of a middle of the road run

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Speaker 4: three teams they've played a futured offensive line or they're

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Speaker 4: playing bad. This run defense also has allowed the tenth

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Speaker 4: as far as misstack rate like they're seventeenth. So you

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Speaker 4: stack all that up against Jon Robinson, who I mean,

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Speaker 4: Atlanta Quietly, even despite the injuries, their ninth best in

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Speaker 4: yards before contact per attempt was is probably more of

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Speaker 4: a Bijon stat than it is for their O line,

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Speaker 4: because Bijeon's freaking awesome, Like he's top fifteen in every

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Speaker 4: I think that this is quietly a pretty good spot

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Speaker 5: Got to look at the opponents and it was the Giants,

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Speaker 1: All right, we're going to Saints at Bills. As of

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Speaker 1: when I put the sheet together, I didn't look to

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Speaker 1: see if this mood at all. But when I put

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Speaker 1: which is the biggest line of the season so far.

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Speaker 2: Will they cover that spread? And then also fits.

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Speaker 1: I want you to pick one Saint that you like

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Speaker 1: this week and one Bill you dislike, to kind of

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Speaker 6: Ooh interesting?

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Speaker 5: All right, Yes, I do think the Bills cover in

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Speaker 5: They've had extra rest time, extra prep time, and they

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Speaker 5: haven't had to leave home. I think the Bills win

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Speaker 5: big in this one.

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Speaker 6: A saying I like.

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Speaker 5: I'll keep putting Chris Olave in lineups where I have

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Speaker 5: him like his his target counts so far thirteen ten, fourteen,

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Speaker 5: he's twenty three catches already. Wellough, the weird thing is

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Speaker 5: he has been between fifty four and fifty seven yards

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Speaker 5: in every game so far. So there's a sturdy floor,

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Speaker 5: especially in PPR, if not exactly you know, the ceiling

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Speaker 5: does not look like the sixteene chapel here with Spencer

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Speaker 6: A fade for the Bills.

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Speaker 5: I'll say Dalton Kincaid like he's tight end three in

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Speaker 5: half the Bills offensive snaps and he hasn't had more

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Speaker 5: than six targets in a game. So if there's anyone

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Speaker 2: Fits would you rather start Kincaid or Kelsey this week?

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Speaker 6: Oh man?

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Speaker 5: That is uh, that is interesting. I'm let me check

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Speaker 5: the rankings real quick. I think I do have Kincaid

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Speaker 6: Kelsey looks pretty dusty.

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Speaker 1: They're back to back in ECR, and they're my two

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Speaker 1: tight ends in a dynasty league that we're all in together.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've got kid tight end eight.

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Speaker 3: You don't have Kinkaid in that league.

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Speaker 2: I have Kinkaid in though the other dynasty league that

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Speaker 2: was okay.

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Speaker 3: I was like, you can have Kinkaid, I'll trade it

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Speaker 3: to you.

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Speaker 1: No, the old chair to be in the league where

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Speaker 1: iRED have Rock Bauers. Now I'm good. I I have

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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts's my backup.

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Speaker 5: Actually, I've got Kincaid tight end eight, Kelsey tight end ten.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so close, But yeah, you do lean in that direction.

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Speaker 2: De bro, What do you think about this game?

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Speaker 1: Do you think the Bills are going to cover this

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Speaker 1: huge spread and then also pick a Saint you like

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Speaker 1: and a billion dislike?

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Speaker 4: Man, you made me look this up. It's actually moved

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Speaker 4: more in the direction of the Bills in hard rock

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Speaker 4: bed it's minus sixteen and a half now like.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, good lord, So it's kind of the other direction.

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Speaker 3: I okay.

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Speaker 4: So I don't think the Bills cover on this, and

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Speaker 4: only because not because I think that the Saints are

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Speaker 4: think that they can get there in garbage time stuff

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Speaker 4: and make up after the Bills kind of take their

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Speaker 4: then fine, I think they cover.

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Speaker 2: It opened at twelve and a half by the way, Oh.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well there you go. But sixteen and a half, dude, like.

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Speaker 5: That With that many the back door is always open

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Speaker 5: when there's a spread back.

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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 4: And that's But the other thing about it is like

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Speaker 4: this game, Like their run defense is not stellars, So

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Speaker 4: I think camera can get good usage on the ground.

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Speaker 4: Chris Lave is my saint to for all the points

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Speaker 4: faced the sixth fewest perimeter wide receiver targets, but they

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Speaker 4: So quietly pretty good spot for chrysal Lava. So I

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Speaker 4: feel really good about him as a wide receiver. Three

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Speaker 4: this week, the Bill that all fade because FITZI I

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Speaker 4: think this is gonna make things tingle. I think it's

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Speaker 4: the Keon Coleman week, bro, So I think Keon's in

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Speaker 4: for a big day. And Khalila Shakiir is the guy

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Speaker 4: that all fade here. Just his usage, the Saints have

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Slot receivers against the Saints of the ninth few is

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Speaker 4: PBR points per target and the fifth or excuse me,

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Speaker 4: the fifth fewest Fantasy points per game overall.

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Speaker 3: So Shakier's my fade uh, because I think it's gonna

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Speaker 2: On the you know, big spread.

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Speaker 1: Like also, like whatuld it totally surprised you if the

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Speaker 1: like even not even just talking about a backdoor cover,

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Speaker 4: It was gonna maybe Kellen Moore, Like, maybe I'm not

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Speaker 4: saying the Saints win this, but it's closer because of

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Speaker 4: garbage time and everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like I yeah, My point is that I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's necessary if they cover the Saints cover.

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Speaker 1: That is, I don't think it's necessarily going to mean like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it being closer than people expect for Like, I don't

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Speaker 1: think anybody will at no point. Well, I think the

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Speaker 1: Bills are going to lose, but I could see it

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Speaker 1: being you know, under three scores for most of the

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Speaker 4: And I also think that it's in the Saints favor

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Speaker 4: being a dome team traveling to to freaking Buffalo that

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Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. All right, let's go to Browns at Lions. Fits.

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Speaker 1: Sorry to be talking about the Browns facing an NFC

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Speaker 1: scars for you. The unstoppable force, right, the Lions offense

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Speaker 2: Think about who they have faced.

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Speaker 1: They have faced the Bengals when they still had Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: of the ball? Lions offensive, Browns defense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm gonna say the Lions maybe more through

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Speaker 6: So I don't think.

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Speaker 5: We're getting another one hundred and fifty yard rushing day

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Speaker 5: season on Jordan Love and they couldn't get any movement

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Speaker 5: in the running game.

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Speaker 1: I think the Lions are going to do enough like

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Speaker 1: to win the game obviously, and so like by that

444
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Speaker 1: measure you could say that I'm picking the Lions offense,

445
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Speaker 1: but like specifically on the side of the ball, I

446
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Speaker 1: actually think the Browns defense is going to have the

447
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Speaker 1: better day in the Lions offense. I'm just so impressed

448
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Speaker 1: by what I've seen from Cleveland that side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: So Debro go ahead and break our tie here.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with the Lions offense. And I think

451
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Speaker 4: this all comes down to one specific factor in this game.

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Speaker 4: Do Christian Mahogany and Tate Ratledge hold up. If they

453
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Speaker 4: hold up against this defensive line, then the Lions can

454
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Speaker 4: cook here, really and this all comes down to the

455
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Speaker 4: trenches and can the Browns have a good day. It

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Speaker 4: is possible if their d line can get home, they

457
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Speaker 4: can bring pressure because they are seventh best in pressure,

458
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Speaker 4: and we know Jared Golf has a problem with that.

459
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Speaker 4: That's what happened with the Packers game. Tate Rautli and

460
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Speaker 4: Mahogany were overmatched. But I think this offensive line is

461
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Speaker 4: kind of not finding it stride. But I think they're

462
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Speaker 4: playing better. Both those guards have played better over the.

463
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Speaker 3: Last two weeks.

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Speaker 4: I think that continues this week. And if that happens, man,

465
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Speaker 4: I just they might be without Denzel a Ward. Their

466
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Speaker 4: cornerbacks in the back end are not equipped to deal

467
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Speaker 4: with this passing attack. Like Cleveland has quietly been as

468
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Speaker 4: good as their defense defensive line has been and they

469
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Speaker 4: are carrying the day. Their run defenses top five in

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Speaker 4: the NFL. Again, I said, they have the seventh best

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Speaker 4: pressure rate. If those things like if Detroit Lions to

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Speaker 4: just say, look like, if we got enough time with

473
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Speaker 4: Jared Golf, whether it's short area targets or JMO just

474
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Speaker 4: burning these corners, like they can put up some points.

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Speaker 4: They just have to keep Jared Goff clean. And if

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Speaker 4: they can do that, which I think, I lean in

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Speaker 4: the direction that they can, and I know I'm stepping

478
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Speaker 4: out on a limb because we've already seen the Lions

479
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Speaker 4: offensive line fold under a good D line already previously.

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Speaker 3: But if they can, Cleveland's given.

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Speaker 4: Up the fifth most passing touchdowns, the eighth highest pass

482
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Speaker 4: rating in their middle road in success and they're quietly

483
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Speaker 4: middle of the road in against D passing. It just

484
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Speaker 4: comes down to can their pass rush and their D

485
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Speaker 4: line win. If not, it's a big day for JMO,

486
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Speaker 4: It's a big day for Jair Golf and Amara saying

487
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Speaker 4: Brown is going to cook Miles Harden, who right now

488
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Speaker 4: is giving up a seventy five percents catch rad and

489
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Speaker 4: a one thirty pass ring in his coverage, he doesn't

490
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Speaker 4: have a chance against Amana.

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Speaker 1: I am not as optimistic about the Lions line as

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Speaker 1: you are, like in terms of them playing better last

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I mean, like when we threw their

494
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Speaker 1: facing the Ravens without nondematic week without Kyle van Noy,

495
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Speaker 1: with the banged up Travis Jones, Like, that's not a

496
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Speaker 1: good defensive lines this weakest unit on the Ravens as

497
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Speaker 1: an entire team, really, So I don't think it was

498
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Speaker 1: like impressive of the Lions offensive line to do what

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Speaker 1: they did.

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Speaker 2: And you know, the week before against.

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Speaker 1: The Bears, like like the Browns are closer to the

502
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Speaker 1: Packers in that regard than they are the other two

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Speaker 1: opponents they faced. So I'm not ready to say like

504
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Speaker 1: that this offensive line is ready for a matchup like this.

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Speaker 1: I do think they will get kind of bullied by

506
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Speaker 1: the Browns defense line, and if they're shutting down the

507
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Speaker 1: run and don't have that threat with Montgomery and Gibbs,

508
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Speaker 1: that's kind of why I lean towards Again, I do

509
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Speaker 1: not think the Browns are gonna win this game. I

510
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Speaker 1: am not saying that because I think the Lions defense

511
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Speaker 1: will do very very well against the Browns offense, like

512
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Speaker 1: every defense does against the Browns offense. But I do

513
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Speaker 1: I do think we will come away saying, like, even

514
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Speaker 1: if the Lions score scores some points, because they're going

515
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Speaker 1: to just over the course of a long game, I

516
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Speaker 1: think we'll come away saying the Browns defense won the

517
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Speaker 1: battle even if they lost the game, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 5: The Browns defense, man, like if they I mean, they

519
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 5: had such a nice draft, getting the extra first run

520
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Speaker 5: pick for next year, getting Mason Taylor, who looks like

521
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Speaker 5: a stut already. Carson Schwessinger is like already one of

522
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Speaker 5: the like an above average NFL linebacker from the jump,

523
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Speaker 5: like he is really good. Grant del Pitt is one

524
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Speaker 5: of the better safeties in the league. Like they have

525
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Speaker 5: a really tough defense if they can just like finally

526
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Speaker 5: figure it out at quarterback, and they do have some

527
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Speaker 5: AMMO in the draft next year, like the Browns might

528
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Speaker 5: not be And I don't want to give the Browns

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Speaker 5: fans false hope, because I know they've had plenty of

530
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Speaker 5: that over the years, but like they could they could

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Speaker 5: be competitive in a hurry.

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Speaker 1: I want to save you here fits from the comments

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Speaker 1: you said Mason Taylor. It's Mason Graham. Sorry, yeah, obviously

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Speaker 1: you know that, but just so the commentaris don't jump

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Speaker 1: on you.

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Speaker 4: Also shout out to Eliite Collins. He's arguably playing some

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Speaker 4: of the best football of his career.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's been. I mean, defense is a

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Speaker 1: lot of efforts. So I wonder if, like later in

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Speaker 1: the year, if like the offense has been just terrible

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Speaker 1: all season, and.

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Speaker 3: That's you know, that's what I'll worry about it.

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Speaker 4: They're not going to play complimentary football right but right now, yeah,

545
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Speaker 4: it's early enough that they're still pretty scary, very very scary.

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Speaker 1: All Right, guys, Titans at Texans gross key question here.

557
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Speaker 1: Houston is the lowest scoring team in football this season.

558
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Speaker 1: Tennessee is also bottom five. The total on this game

559
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Speaker 1: is down at thirty eight and a half. Actually, I

560
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Speaker 1: want to see if it's still there, because that's where

561
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Speaker 1: it was again a couple of days ago. I wonder

562
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Speaker 1: if that, like the like Bill Saints, has moved at all.

563
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Speaker 1: It is, Oh, it's moved up. It's now at thirty

564
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Speaker 1: nine on hard Rock Bet.

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Speaker 2: So the total in this.

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Speaker 1: Game is now at thirty nine on hard Rock Bet.

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Speaker 1: What is the path to this game going over? Basically,

568
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Speaker 1: what is the path to these offenses showing us anything

569
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Speaker 1: in this game?

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Speaker 3: De bro, This is the lowest total of the week.

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Speaker 3: Am I am? I right with that?

572
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Speaker 2: Yes, I believe.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's the second lowest total this season behind

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Speaker 1: Steelers Jets in Week one, which obviously did go over.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Minnesota and Pittsburgh's close, but they're not in the thirties.

576
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Speaker 4: It's the only one in the thirties. The path for

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Speaker 4: this going over? Man, really comes down to two things

578
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Speaker 4: for me. Houston's offense has to like carry the day here.

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Speaker 4: Tennessee's not gonna put up a ton of points regardless

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Speaker 4: of how you look at this. So Houston has to

581
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Speaker 4: like somehow find a way.

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Speaker 3: C J. Stroud's got to play better.

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Speaker 4: It really, I think not only Stroud, but Nico has

584
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Speaker 4: to have a big day and he can do that

585
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Speaker 4: versus this Tennessee pass defense like they're not very good

586
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Speaker 4: man like a lot of too high. Nico's not been

587
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Speaker 4: great against it this year. I think it's more of

588
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Speaker 4: a Stroud result than it is Nico. But Lugerius Sneed's

589
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Speaker 4: not playing great. Although he's talking a little bit of

590
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Speaker 4: smack to Nico, Collllins, good luck, Nico's gonna drop one

591
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Speaker 4: fifty on you this Week's Need not smart.

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Speaker 3: You're just You're not that dude.

593
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Speaker 4: Anymore at this part of your career to sit here

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Speaker 4: and be talking that crap to one of the best

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Speaker 4: wide receivers in the league.

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Speaker 3: Godspeed. But the other thing I'll.

597
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Speaker 4: Bring up here is that for Houston to sit here

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Speaker 4: and put up the points to push this to the

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Speaker 4: over because I just don't think the Tennessee Titans have

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Speaker 4: the capability with their with their offense, it helps them.

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Speaker 4: Of Derek Stingley, this is this game, but still like

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Speaker 4: Calvid Ridley ain't carrying no passing attack in the year

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: It's just not happening, dude.

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Speaker 4: I think this also has to be a good day

606
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Speaker 4: for the Houston rushing attack, which they can get there.

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Speaker 4: Tennessee cannot stop the run like. They're fourth worst an

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Speaker 4: explosive run rate in rushing yards per game. I'm not

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Speaker 4: telling you that Nick Chubb looks like yesterdayear Nick Chubb,

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Speaker 4: but against this run defense, he might surprise some people.

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Speaker 2: What do you think fits? What's the path the over here?

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Speaker 6: Oh man?

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Speaker 5: Trying to pin a picture of an interesting fun Texans

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Speaker 5: Titan scan. That's a tall order word, but well, I

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Speaker 5: mean you could say that the Texans haven't been especially

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Speaker 5: good against their run like. Their run defense is twenty

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Speaker 5: eighth in DVA. They've given up four rushing touchdowns, and

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Speaker 5: the Texans are also twenty sixth in pressure rate, which

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Speaker 5: is pretty disappointing for a team with Willane Anderson and

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Speaker 5: daneil Hunter. I don't get that. But if the Titans

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Speaker 5: can run the ball effectively keep like down in distance

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Speaker 5: manageable and keep the Houston pass rush from getting the

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Speaker 5: cam Ward who's been smacked around in the first three weeks.

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Speaker 5: I'm worried the kid isn't going to survive the season.

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Speaker 5: But if that happens, maybe the Tennessee offense can be functional,

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Speaker 5: you know, if they keep those guys from getting award.

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Speaker 6: And then on the other side.

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Speaker 5: Of the ball, the Titans' defense is twenty ninth in DVA,

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Speaker 5: like thirty first in DVA against the run. So yes,

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Speaker 5: the Houston offensive line is just garbage. But if it

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Speaker 5: can be just decent this week, like, you can certainly

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Speaker 5: move the ball and score points on the Titans.

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Speaker 1: D Yeah, I don't really want to talk any more

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Speaker 1: about this game because.

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Speaker 6: It's okay, it's agreed, gross dude, so gross.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Panthers at Patriots.

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Speaker 1: After all the fumbles from the New England backfield last week,

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Speaker 1: is this the game Trayvon Henderson finally gets unleaded.

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Speaker 6: Man, you would hope.

640
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 5: So if you are Travian Henderson investor, like, it had

641
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 5: to be really frustrating for the Henderson investors that after

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Speaker 5: Ramandra Stevenson coughed up his second fumble last week. Antonio

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Speaker 5: Gibson was in on the next series, got to carry

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Speaker 5: on first down, got another carry on second down, and

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Speaker 5: then fumble the ball away himself. So that was early

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Speaker 5: third quarter. The good thing was after that Gibson fumble,

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Speaker 5: from that point on, Henderson was the only New England

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Speaker 5: running back who touched the ball the rest of the game.

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Speaker 5: I like Henderson. His snaphas were thirty five percent in

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Speaker 5: week one, h thirty one point seven percent in Week two,

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Speaker 5: up to forty five point nine percent last week with

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Speaker 5: the spike and usage in the second half. So maybe

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Speaker 5: his snapchare hits fifty percent for the first time this week.

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Speaker 5: Like all we ask please Traveon Henderson just hold onto

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Speaker 5: the ball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not somebody who fumbled, you know in college

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Speaker 1: or I don't think so.

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Speaker 6: Not an issue. I mean, anyone can cough it up.

659
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 5: But like it hasn't been a problem for him, it's

660
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 5: clearly been a problem for Romandre and Gibson over their careers.

661
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, deebro, what do you think is this

662
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: the game?

663
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 4: If this isn't the game, I don't know what the

664
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 4: game is gonna be. Man, I mean to be honest, like,

665
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 4: this is the perfect matchup, this is the one that

666
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 4: you unleash him, but both the other running backs have

667
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 4: fumbled and to fit to his point, after the Ramandre

668
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 4: put the ball on the ground in the third quarter,

669
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 4: Henderson played seventy two percent of the snaps after that.

670
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 4: For the rest of the game, he had a sixty

671
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 4: three percent route share. I think this is the week

672
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 4: that they unleashed Traveon Henderson. The Panthers just they're just

673
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 4: giving up everything on the ground. Man, Like their their

674
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 4: pass defense has been really good, but their run defense

675
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 4: has been god awful.

676
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: Still.

677
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 4: I was hoping it was gonna be better with some

678
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 4: of the additions they made Derek Brown coming back, but

679
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 4: it has not worked out. It has not been the case.

680
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 4: And if there was ever a game to get Trevion

681
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 4: Henderson going, it is this one against a Carolina run

682
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 4: defense that's given up the eighth most rushing yards and

683
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 4: the highest yards out of contact. Forer attempt to win.

684
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 4: And I guess the only thing that my takeaway with

685
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,239
Speaker 4: Travion right now is I'm kind of surprised that I

686
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 4: know it's only nineteen carries.

687
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: I get that guys. I'm kind of surprised, like how.

688
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 4: Little he's making guys miss, Like he has only a

689
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 4: five percent mistackle rate. So again, I think this is

690
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 4: more small sample because the guy is explosive. We saw

691
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 4: that multiple years in college. I don't think that he

692
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 4: just lost all of that. But it is a little

693
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 4: bit eyebrown raising, eyebrow raising to this point that that

694
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 4: he's done or hasn't done what he hasn't done with

695
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 4: the work that he's been given.

696
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: Where is he ranked for you, debro?

697
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 4: Oh, I think I got him inside my top twenty

698
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 4: four running backs right now? Oh wow, Yeah, I've got

699
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 4: him at RB twenty three. Like I do think that

700
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 4: this is the game where he gets unleashed. I think

701
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 4: he's probably gonna play at least fifty percent of the snaps,

702
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 4: and again, he hasn't looked like great on a per

703
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 4: touch basis to this point.

704
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 3: This this is the matchup. This, this is the matchup.

705
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 4: Like we also like what Traves e TM did a

706
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 4: week one and what he hasn't done since week one?

707
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: Like this is it? Dude?

708
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: Fits? Did you say where you have him ranked?

709
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 5: Thirty one for Henderson, thirty three for Remondra I'm just

710
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 5: not totally convinced that they do the right thing and

711
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 5: play Henderson more.

712
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 4: Okay, Rabel doesn't seem like the head coach that's going

713
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 4: to sit here and force that. FITZI, like the old

714
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 4: school guy is like, not, you're in the Brabel doghouse, baby, Like.

715
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: He was like, Remandre needs to figure this out because

716
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: we need him to, you know, be a real significant

717
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: part of this team. Like he was talking like he

718
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: wants him to keep getting chances and figure it out.

719
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's gonna play out.

720
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: If only the doghouse is deep and ugly, man, I.

721
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 5: Know, if only if only every coach, uh, Like, if

722
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 5: only Rabel was as quick to throw Remondra in fumble

723
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 5: jail as like Ron Rivera used to be to throw

724
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 5: Gibson into fumble jail.

725
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: Oh jeez man.

726
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: claim your prize. Guys, how about Chargers at Giants. Camscataboo

740
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: is taking over the Giants backfield fits, but the Chargers

741
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: defense is no joke. Where are you ranking him this week?

742
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: Expert consensus ranking has him at RB twenty three. That's

743
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: in half PPR scoring. Let me just make sure that

744
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: an update RB twenty two now so moved up to

745
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: a spot.

746
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 6: Yeah.

747
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 5: So the Chiefs R on defense no joke either. And

748
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 5: Scataboo ten carries for sixty yards and a touchdown on

749
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 5: the ground last year and in addition to six yards

750
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 5: per carry against that very good Chiefs run defense. Sketubo's

751
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 5: work in the passing game was even more exciting. I

752
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 5: think six catches sixty one yards on eight targets.

753
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 6: This guy is so much fun.

754
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 5: I wasn't sure how well Cam Scataboo's game was going

755
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 5: to translate to the NFL like the physical tackle breaker

756
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 5: going against a different breed of defenders and tacklers. It

757
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 5: looks like it's gonna translate very well. Thank you. You know,

758
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 5: Cam Scataboo is just so hard to bring down. I've

759
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 5: got him RB fourteen this week. No Tyrone Tracy for

760
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 5: the Giants. He dislocated his shoulder last week. The Giants

761
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 5: backfield now belongs to Cam Skataboo, and you would imagine

762
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 5: the Giants are gonna want to lean on him pretty

763
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 5: heavily this week. With rookie QB Jackson Dart making his

764
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 5: first NFL start against this good Chargers defense.

765
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: De Bro, you seemed to be in agreement here, dude.

766
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: I was hoping fits he wasn't gonna come here throw

767
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 3: cold water on this man. I'm so in.

768
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 4: I've got Cam Skataboo at Rby's sixteen. I think he's

769
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 4: gonna crush this week, and I think it's it's gone

770
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 4: under the radar. You can run the ball against the

771
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 4: freaking Chargers. This defense has given up the seventh highest

772
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 4: explosive run rate and the highest mistackle rate. Well, oh

773
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 4: guess what on top that cherry on top of all

774
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 4: of that, they got the third lowest stuff rate, and

775
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 4: they get cams Kataboo this week. Dude, We're gonna get

776
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 4: some really good gifts and stuff out of Campscattaboy and

777
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 4: some good moments. I think he's gonna have a really

778
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 4: good game, Man Strong RB two. I'm all in for it.

779
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 4: And I think I had to include him because he

780
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 4: was a little bit I think it was an RB

781
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 4: twenty five when we did the primer video, which should

782
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 4: be live on YouTube at the time you're watching this.

783
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 4: I had to include him because I felt like with

784
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 4: people with the roster composition, Camskatabou as a player you

785
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 4: probably drafted as like an RB three, RB four, and

786
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 4: you're like, at this point, it's Jackson Dart's first game

787
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 4: and the defense and you're so worried, and everybody's like,

788
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 4: I don't know if I should play him or not.

789
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 4: You need to play camp Scataboo this week. He's an

790
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 4: RB two. Get him into your flex. He's probably a

791
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 4: flex on most different rosters unless you just lost like

792
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 4: James Connor other injuries. Aaron Jones, you should be licking

793
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 4: your chops to play Camp Scataboo this week.

794
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 5: Isn't the NFL so much more fun where there's a

795
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 5: running back like Mike Alstott or you know, sorry Hill

796
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 5: date you but John Riggins. Yes, it's just so impossible

797
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 5: to tackle and just bounces defenders off them like ping

798
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 5: pong balls, like Scataboo is is just going to be

799
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 5: a joy to watch, man.

800
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 6: I can't wait to enjoy his career.

801
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: I think it's a good point by you, debro On,

802
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: Like he was not drafted to be a starter, so

803
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: unless you've had injuries like you are gonna have to

804
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: choose to play him ahead of somebody that you had

805
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: drafted ahead of him and who maybe even has played

806
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: okay this season for you, Like.

807
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: I got a great one I got. I know you're

808
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: searching for.

809
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 4: A name worm, Yeah, go ahead, Cam's Cattaboy or Chase Brown.

810
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 4: Come on, you know we all want to say Cam's.

811
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: Cataboo, Like.

812
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, ironically, Chase Brown is actually ranked back to back

813
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: with him in the CR I feel like like I'm

814
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: still playing Cam's Cattaboy, Like yeah, I was gonna say

815
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 1: Javante or Scattaboo.

816
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 6: David Montgomery Cam just exactly.

817
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

818
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: I will be really excited to well, well, I mean,

819
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: let's see this step brother, then we'll move off this point.

820
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 2: Where is the rest of season for you?

821
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 4: I think he's a comfortable RB two high end RB two.

822
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 4: I'm looking at my rest of the season ranks and

823
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 4: I'm probably got him too low in there, but RB

824
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 4: twenty I've got him as rest of the season ranks. Okay,

825
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 4: he's not giving if he stays healthy, he's not giving

826
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 4: this job back to Tyrone Tracy. I want to be

827
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 4: very clear about that. I said that in the off season.

828
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 4: Brian Dable has a history of utilizing one back again

829
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 4: Pop Quiz Time Boys. Who was the OC with Peyton

830
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 4: Hillis's monster season, It was Brian freaking day Ball like

831
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: this archetype of volume compiling back. He likes this archetype

832
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 4: of back. It was Devin Singletary, it was Zach Moss,

833
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 4: but Zach Moss wasn't good enough in Buffalo to take

834
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 4: the job. So he's going to take this job and

835
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 4: health permitted.

836
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: Because of the I.

837
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 4: Understand his play style and as the touch is kind

838
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 4: of like ramp up and the hits ramp up, there

839
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 4: are worries there for me. But if he stays healthy,

840
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 4: he's not letting go of this job.

841
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 3: He's not.

842
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: Let's go to Eagles at Buccaneers. This is the last

843
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: game in the early slay fits. Was the second half

844
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: against the Rams and outlier for the Eagles offense or

845
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: did they unlock something in their passing game for moving forward?

846
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 5: I'd like to think they unlocked something, and if their

847
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 5: passing game was locked, it was pretty much self locking,

848
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 5: like they just had not been throwing downfield very much.

849
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 5: But then and you know, they fell behind against the

850
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 5: Rams and really opened up the offense in the second

851
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 5: half and they look great, like Jalen Hurts was throwing darts.

852
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 6: AJ Brown was making plays. Hopefully we get more of

853
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 6: that this week.

854
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: Deebro, what do you think?

855
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

856
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 4: I think this is a case the Eagles felt like

857
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 4: the person that locked their keys in the car. You

858
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 4: can't drive anywhere when you don't have a keep freaking

859
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 4: keys man, and the keys to this offense. And no

860
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 4: shade against Saquon Barkley, but should be the passing attack

861
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 4: and stuff man. Like Saquan's per touch efficiency has not

862
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 4: been great this year. I mean that has to get

863
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 4: noted here. And you have two of the best wide

864
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 4: receivers arguably the best wide receiver tandem in the entire

865
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 4: freaking NFL. And I think, what really is going to

866
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 4: kind of like push the Eagles in this direction this week?

867
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: Especially?

868
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 4: Is there against another pass final defense like the Buccaneers

869
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 4: are an elite run defense their top twelve and stuff rate,

870
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 4: Lewismith's tackle rate and yards before contact per attempt. So

871
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 4: looking at just this matchup, yes, the Eagles should lean

872
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 4: into their passing attack. Can I tell you definitively that

873
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 4: they're not gonna be hard headed and try to run

874
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 4: the ball in the first quarter and then find out, oh,

875
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 4: this is probably a really stupid idea and then change course.

876
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: Possibly that feels probably maybe more likely that they pivot

877
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: part way through the game.

878
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 4: I hope they don't wait until the freaking fourth quarter

879
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 4: at this time and say, oh, hey, guess what we

880
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 4: should probably do this thing this other thing that we're

881
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:18,959
Speaker 4: really good.

882
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

883
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,479
Speaker 5: By the way, the Rams would like a word about

884
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 5: that best wide receiver tandem thing?

885
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: Oh well, yes, you're right, good, good shout out.

886
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

887
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: I want to ask, on the other side of this game,

888
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: what are our expectations for a Mecca BUCA with Mike

889
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: Evans out Debro.

890
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 4: He's gonna get a crap down a volume, like dude.

891
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 4: He last week he had almost a twenty eight percent

892
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 4: target share, And that was one of the things that

893
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 4: I was not that I was taught saying at Mecca's

894
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 4: early season production was fraudulent, but it was very much

895
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 4: carried by touchdowns. Like he was living in that like

896
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 4: eighteen to nineteen percent target share range. It wasn't as

897
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 4: high as I think like people would believe, just saying

898
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 4: looking at the fantasy production. So last week seeing him

899
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 4: garner a wide receiver one type of workload where he

900
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 4: had a twenty seven point five percent target share, he

901
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 4: had a thirty five percent first read chare those were

902
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 4: really good things because you're either one of the wide

903
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 4: receivers that is the archetype of player that can command

904
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 4: volume and earn volume at that type of clip, or

905
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 4: you're not and it's that freaking easy. So, like we

906
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 4: get into this realm of like projecting guys to earn

907
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 4: better target shares than maybe their archetype or their talent

908
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,479
Speaker 4: allows them to do. That was really encouraging to see

909
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 4: from a Mecca. I'm worried about him this week because

910
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 4: I'm worried about do they do the Eagles put Quinjon

911
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 4: Mitchell on him, because Quinyon has followed guys like he

912
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 4: followed Adams last week on almost eighty percent of his routes.

913
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 4: If that happens, I'm worried about Ameca's outlook. But I

914
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 4: think the volume is definitely gonna be there because Baker

915
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 4: doesn't have a whole lot of other options.

916
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Fitz Deepro kind of hit on the follow up.

917
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: I was going to ask, which is the volume is

918
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: clearly going to be high or at least expect, But

919
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: so with the defensive attention.

920
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 6: That's exactly it's the push pull on that.

921
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 5: And Iguca was just sort of maximizing a modest target

922
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 5: share early on. Then last year or last week, I

923
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 5: should say, spike in target share and you figure he's

924
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 5: going to see more targets this week with no evans.

925
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 5: But yeah, maybe he gets locked up by Quinnon Mitchell.

926
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 5: So yeah, I've got him rank like wide receiver sixteen,

927
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 5: What about you, de Bro.

928
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: I've got him. I was actually pulling that up.

929
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 4: One of my worries here and not decide I've got

930
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 4: a Wade receiver eighteen just because of the volume one

931
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 4: of my worries, and this is a quiet worry. We

932
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 4: have to see if this is going to pan out.

933
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 4: I don't know if Josh Josh Grizzard is any good man,

934
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 4: and just trying to read the small tea leaves of stuff,

935
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 4: like the things that we saw Liam Cohen adjust and

936
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 4: do different, Like when the entire offense got like just

937
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 4: cratered to nothing and Kate Auton has put into a

938
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 4: power slot role and he has a few monster games.

939
00:41:59,040 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 3: What scared me.

940
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 4: About the way that Grizzard deployed this offense in previous games,

941
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 4: like just this is a perfect parallel to this the

942
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 4: week against the Texans when Mike Evans is getting shadowed

943
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 4: by Derek Stingley, and the way that you change you

944
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 4: flip this matchup and you put it back in your

945
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 4: favor is you move Mike Evans, put him in the

946
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 4: freaking slot and Derek Stingley is not following him to

947
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 4: the slot. Like that's just what it's a cheat code.

948
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 4: He didn't do it. He just put Mike Evans out

949
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 4: there on the boundary and said, sure, just go win.

950
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 4: It's cool, go win.

951
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: If he does that. This week versus a Mecca but the.

952
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 4: Bucks are going to struggle as a passing attack because

953
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 4: they don't have a CounterPunch. So I'm worried about is

954
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 4: Grizzard not a great oc and did the Liam Cohen

955
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 4: magic kind of like leave out of the room. Because

956
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 4: little things like that, where you make it easier for

957
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 4: your offense and you exploit different matchups, those are the

958
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 4: things you want to press the easy button for your

959
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 4: quarterback and your offense. I don't know if dude is

960
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 4: good enough to do that.

961
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: Let's go to the late afternoons late Sunday Colts at Rams, which,

962
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: by the way, I think is the highest total of

963
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: the week of forty nine and a half on hard

964
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: rock bet. I actually really like the under on that, truthfully.

965
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: But there are a couple of studs in this game

966
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: that we are definitely very happy to be starting in

967
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: our fantasy lineups.

968
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: I want to ask you guys about two.

969
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: Of them, who finishes better at their position this week

970
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor or Pooka Nakua? And then also who finishes

971
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: better at their position this season if we guaranteed health

972
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: for these guys. If you look at the consensus rankings

973
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: on the flex rankings, because obviously the different positions. Jonathan

974
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: Taylor is third overall, Pukuakua is fourth overall. Taylor, of course,

975
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: is behind a couple of running backs in the consensus rankings.

976
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: Puka is behind nobody at wide receiver. But how do

977
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: you guys see this playing out? Who's better this week

978
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 1: and for the season, deebra, I'll start with you, Jonathan

979
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: Taylor ort Pooka Nakua.

980
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 3: This is not my bias showing. I promise it's not, Guys.

981
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 4: I'm so sure this is Puoka, this is Pooka now,

982
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 4: and this is Pooka rest us Pookah's I mean, dude,

983
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 4: he hasn't scored any receiving touchdowns.

984
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: I know he got one in the ground.

985
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 4: He has scored zero receiving touchdowns. And the dude is

986
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 4: the runaway wide receiver one in fantasy points per game

987
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 4: right now, with zero receiving touchdowns. He's gonna he's scoring

988
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 4: twenty four point five fantasy points per game with one

989
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 4: freaking touchdown on the year, one total.

990
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: That's it. And he's not slowing down this week.

991
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 4: Where this is a week where I'm not saying JT

992
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 4: slows down, but I think like tempering expectations because the

993
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 4: Rams do have a really good run defense, Like they're

994
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 4: allowed the six lowest explosive run rates, seventh lowest miss

995
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 4: tackle rate, so they are a good run defense. So

996
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 4: I think Jonathan Taylor has a quiet not a quiet week,

997
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 4: Like he's still gonna get twenty to twenty five opportunities,

998
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 4: He's still probably gonna score touchdowns. So like I'm just saying,

999
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 4: this is not a smash tailor type of matchup. Whereas

1000
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 4: dude Pooka, Nakua Colts run single high at fifty five

1001
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 4: percent of their defensive snaps. Pooka's usage has been just

1002
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 4: Puca's usage has been ridiculous the whole entire season. But

1003
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 4: versus single high, dude, he's got a forty six point

1004
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 4: three percent target cheer, He's got five point six yards

1005
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 4: per route run.

1006
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: These are video game type of metrics.

1007
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 4: These are ridiculous numbers like this is Madden on Easy

1008
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 4: Mode type of numbers.

1009
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: So pook is my answer for both of these fits.

1010
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 5: I'll say Pooka on both counts two, Like he is

1011
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 5: a reception machine, like twenty nine catches leading the league,

1012
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 5: Like remember that Cooper Cup season in twenty one.

1013
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: I was going to bring that up.

1014
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was one hundred and forty five catches that

1015
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 5: you're in almost two thousand receiving yards for Cooper Cup. Like,

1016
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 5: if Puka stays healthy all year, he could put up

1017
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 5: those types of numbers.

1018
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 4: Bitfitsy to your point. He's on pace right now for

1019
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 4: one hundred and ninety eight targets, one hundred and sixty

1020
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 4: four receptions, almost nineteen hundred receiving yards eighteen eighty seven.

1021
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 3: That's just stupid, man.

1022
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 5: You know what do you know, if the top of

1023
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 5: your head, who's second in the NFL in receptions right now?

1024
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: Oh?

1025
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 6: Good lord, I don't it's Jake Ferguson. What too?

1026
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 5: Only Jake Ferguson only has two fewer catches than Puka Nukua.

1027
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 5: Jake Ferguson is on pace for one hundred and fifty

1028
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 5: three catches, right.

1029
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 3: That is a sultry stat It's a it's very well done.

1030
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 3: It's that's that's nice.

1031
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: It's not on the same level as Pooka, but I

1032
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: do think it is worth like giving some praise to

1033
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor also, who is having a ridiculous right one

1034
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: hundred and ten in your rushing yards per game, averaging

1035
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: a touchdown per game, although obviously on the ground, those

1036
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: all came in.

1037
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 3: The same matchup pace. Right now, like I'm asking, I'm

1038
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: about to look this up.

1039
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: Is he I can't do that math that quickly. He

1040
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: has three hundred and thirty eight rushing yards through three games, So.

1041
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 2: I'm looking up whatever that.

1042
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 3: I'm letting Pro Football Reference. Who is for me?

1043
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 6: You know, a couple of years ago whenever.

1044
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 3: Nineteen fifteen, nineteen.

1045
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 1: And he has he has, he has finished the last

1046
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: each of the last He's been RB one on the week.

1047
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 5: A couple of years ago, before the injury, everyone was saying,

1048
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 5: like Nick Chubb was the best pure runner in the league,

1049
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 5: even if he wasn't necessarily putting up the best numbers.

1050
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 5: Like I think Jonathan Taylor gets that title now. He

1051
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 5: is the best peer runner in the league.

1052
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he he just looks really good.

1053
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 5: And I think just more versatility, more explosion, I think

1054
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 5: than like Derrick Henry, uh like, and Henry's great, and like,

1055
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 5: I just think he's got a little more. I think

1056
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 5: he's better inside than b Jon Robinson.

1057
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 4: Is My takeaway with JT two is the injuries. I

1058
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 4: was lower on him and I'll own that than consensus,

1059
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 4: Like I did not have good things to say because

1060
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 4: of Daniel Jones, the target chair everything like that. The

1061
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 4: injuries really hurt him last year.

1062
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 3: And that's hard.

1063
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 4: That's a hard thing to quantify and know because we

1064
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 4: don't we're not in the room and we don't know.

1065
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 4: But like looking at the per rush metrics last year,

1066
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 4: we're horrible for JT. He's bounced back, like he's all

1067
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 4: the way back to like that the like what fits

1068
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 4: he was talking about being like in the conversation or

1069
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 4: leading the pack for the best pure rusher in the

1070
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 4: NFL right now, Like the injuries were really really bothers

1071
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 4: him for him last.

1072
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: Year, It's funny I ranked him ahead of consensus, like

1073
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: for draft season, and and yet I barely drafted him

1074
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: anywhere because I kept just going at him. I liked

1075
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: him at costs, but I just kept liking other players.

1076
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: There was always one player that fell to me that

1077
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: I liked a little bit better, usually at a different position,

1078
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: you know, I like I liked the receiver there, or

1079
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: felt like it was a league I wanted to take

1080
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: a swing of hours or something like that.

1081
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: So I didn't really.

1082
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 3: Didn't know Daniel Jones was going to be this year,

1083
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: Sam Arnold, weren't you didn't know that? I mean, that's

1084
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 3: what you know.

1085
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 4: We get in the comments these days, it's like come oh, guys,

1086
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 4: Like I'm like, dude, it's staying.

1087
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: If you told me the entire league stayed healthy this year, like,

1088
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: I don't think this is I think Jonathan Taylor finished

1089
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: his hiss RB one this year, like assuming health. I

1090
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: I legitimately think very highly of him. But Pooka has

1091
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: been awesome also, so that's why I put them together.

1092
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: Let's go to the next game here. Jaguars at forty

1093
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: nine ers. Ricky Pearsall is ranked three spots higher than

1094
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior in this game game in the rest

1095
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: of the ah ME, not rest of season, in the

1096
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: expert consensus rankings for this week, but the rest of

1097
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: season rankings have Thomas eight spots ahead of Pearsaul. Do

1098
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: both of those sound right to you? So again, I'll

1099
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 1: read that again because I kind stumbled over that Piersaw

1100
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: is three spots higher for this week in the consensus rankings,

1101
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: but Thomas is eight spots higher for rest of season

1102
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: in the consensus rankings. Fits do those both sound right

1103
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 1: to you or would you change either? Yeah?

1104
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 5: No, I understand that disparity, and I have that same

1105
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 5: type of disparity in my own rankings for Ricky Pearsall

1106
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 5: and Brian Thomas Junior for Week four and the rest

1107
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 5: of the season. Part of the reason I have Pearsall

1108
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 5: ranked wide receiver twelve this week is because George Kittle

1109
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 5: isn't playing and Juwan Jennings might not play. But those

1110
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 5: guys are both going to be playing soon, and then

1111
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 5: I might not have Pearsall ranked in the top twenty

1112
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 5: your top twenty five. Brian Thomas Junior, things are just

1113
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 5: so bad right now. It seems like he has the yips.

1114
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 5: He's caught seven out of twenty five targets, a twenty

1115
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 5: eight percent cat trait. It's really hard to confidently endorse

1116
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 5: him this week when things are so bad. But we've

1117
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 5: seen how good this guy can be. Like, I don't

1118
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 5: think it's crazy to think BTJ can get the train

1119
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 5: back on the tracks at some point and be something

1120
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 5: closer to the Brian Thomas Junior we saw last year.

1121
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 4: What do you think, Debro, I think Pearsall should be

1122
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 4: ahead of him and both of them I worry about

1123
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 4: George Kittle coming back. I'm not that worried about Brandon Ayuku.

1124
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 4: We saw the statement saying that he's nowhere close to

1125
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 4: one hundred percent or seeing in the field. Jwan Jennings,

1126
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 4: I can at this point of the season, he's already

1127
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 4: like really really banged up.

1128
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 3: Is he going to make it through the season. I

1129
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 3: don't know.

1130
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 4: So this could be legit the CMC Pearsall and George

1131
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 4: Kittle Show. And if that's the case, he's got enough

1132
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 4: volume man, and Ricky p has been freaking fantastic, Like

1133
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 4: we all, like everybody's like, oh, okay, can he really

1134
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 4: step forward and be the guy? Can he be the

1135
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 4: guy that you know? First round wide receiver? And with

1136
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 4: the final two games of last year, real when the

1137
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 4: forty nine ers put it at his feet and said,

1138
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 4: can you step up and be the number one guy

1139
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 4: we needed you to be? And he's wide receiver sixteen.

1140
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 4: He's got a twenty one percent target chair, he's averaging

1141
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 4: ninety three point seven receiving yards, he's got two point

1142
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 4: six yards per route run, and he's commanding almost a

1143
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 4: twenty eight percent first reach here outside of the target chair.

1144
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 4: The rest of those are wide receiver one numbers. So

1145
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 4: I don't have a lot of questions about Ricky P.

1146
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 4: I got tons of questions about Brian Thomas Junior, whether

1147
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 4: it's Liam Cohen that offense, Trevor Lawrence, Brian Thomas Junior himself,

1148
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 4: and whether this is his play or in his head

1149
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 4: or the wrist injury, because again we don't know the

1150
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 4: severity of that. They could say he's a full practice

1151
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 4: and that doesn't mean anything, man, Like these guys practice reports.

1152
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying I'm not conspiracy theory, like, but

1153
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 4: I've been around fantasy and the NFL long enough that

1154
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 4: we see every single year reports documentaries, Netflix specials come

1155
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 4: out and it's like.

1156
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 3: Oh, this dude was way more hurt than we thought,

1157
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: or he was a.

1158
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 4: Full time practice participant, and but now we have video

1159
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 4: stuff on the Netflix documentary saying the like, bro, I

1160
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 4: couldn't even make a fist. I couldn't even pick up

1161
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 4: like a soda to drink with that arm, Like if ever,

1162
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 4: would y'all be this surprised if this week's game we

1163
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 4: get one of those sideline clips like everybody was doing

1164
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 4: with Joe Burrow before, Like, look, Brian Thomas Junior is

1165
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 4: not grabbing his water bottle with with that hand.

1166
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 3: Uh oh, Like I'm not gonna be shocked.

1167
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 4: So I think it's just I'm going with talent, and

1168
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 4: I'm going with the healthy guy, and who's producing Ricky Piersol.

1169
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: Let's go to Ravens at Chiefs. The Ravens defense has

1170
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: been really bad in their two games against Non Brown's offenses,

1171
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: and their entire starting defensive line is now injured. Although

1172
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: Travis Jones did return to practice on Thursday, it was

1173
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: in a limited capacity. Obviously, nom Dematic Week is still

1174
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: not gonna be playing this week. We don't know if

1175
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: and when he'll even be back with his next stuff.

1176
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: And of course Kylevin no, I still not practice.

1177
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 2: Know it's very bad.

1178
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 3: It's so sad.

1179
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 6: I question, Oh my goodness, we.

1180
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 3: Are grinning because you sound so pain.

1181
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 6: Were car, I know, when you were like the.

1182
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 3: Ravens defense is playing so bad? Like I was like, oh,

1183
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 3: this dude's going through.

1184
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 2: It like no, no, I mean, obviously it has been tough.

1185
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: I I you might remember guys that I did kind

1186
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: of predict I was when I was pushing back into.

1187
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: An audible hug here but no, no, no.

1188
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is like I was, I kind of

1189
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: predicted that the run defense was going to be a

1190
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: problem this year, and it's been much worse than I expected.

1191
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: Of course I didn't expect this level, but that was

1192
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: my concern for the team going into the season. So

1193
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: it's not really even that surprising, you know, to me

1194
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: and crushing. It's just it's kind of what I expected,

1195
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: just on a more extreme version of it.

1196
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 2: And of course the injuries.

1197
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: What I really feel bad about and actually like kind

1198
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: of crestfalling for is is Madaw Weekk, who's a great

1199
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: player and uh simularly a great person who has possibly

1200
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: not going to play again type of injury. Like it's

1201
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: it's really unknown right now what's going on with his

1202
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: neck injury, but it's it's just very scary. But I

1203
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: said all that is the reason I bring this up

1204
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: is to say Isaiah Pachecko has also been super bad,

1205
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 1: but he now gets to go up against this really

1206
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,959
Speaker 1: beaten up and you know, bad and no.

1207
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: Depth defensive line.

1208
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering what kind of game you guys are

1209
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: expecting from Pachecko considering his poor start to the season.

1210
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: But that this is actually a very good matchup. And

1211
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: even if the Chiefs end up having to if the

1212
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: Ravens offense, you know, plays really well, even in a

1213
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: tough matchup against the Chiefs defense. Well maybe not that tough,

1214
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: but you know, a matchup that's given them, you know,

1215
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: problems in the past. The Chiefs will have to throw

1216
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: a lot, so you would think, well, maybe Pachecko doesn't

1217
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: do that well, but I think there will be scoring opportunities. Plus,

1218
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: like I said, the beat up defensive line so fits.

1219
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: I'll start with you on this one. What kind of

1220
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: game are you expected from Pachecko given all that?

1221
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 5: Even if he runs more effectively than he has in

1222
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 5: his first three games, and he's only averaging three point

1223
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 5: seven yards per carry, with his longest run of the

1224
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 5: season going for just ten yards, I don't know if

1225
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 5: he gets enough work to really move the needle in

1226
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 5: fantasy like Pachecko just the snap shares are around fifty percent.

1227
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 5: He hasn't had more than ten carries in a game

1228
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 5: and he's only had six targets all season, with just

1229
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 5: three in.

1230
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 6: The last two weeks.

1231
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 5: So I don't really see a big game for him.

1232
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 5: And if he does go for one hundred yards rushing

1233
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 5: against your Ravens worm, then it's safe to totally abandon hope.

1234
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you can't take advantage of this matchup, I

1235
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 2: think that's a that's a fair point, Debro.

1236
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 4: What do you think I said exactly what I said

1237
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 4: in the primer. I'll say again here, Baltimore's a terrible

1238
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 4: run defense. If you're willing to flex Pacheco again at

1239
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 4: this point, godspeed. Like he's not playing well. He's on

1240
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 4: an offense that has had If he can't get it

1241
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 4: done through against the Giants, he's not going to get

1242
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 4: it done.

1243
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: I mean if you're not If let me ask you this, Debrot,

1244
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: they don't want.

1245
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 3: To run the ball either. They don't even want to

1246
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: run the ball.

1247
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: If you're not starting him in this matchup, shouldn't you

1248
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: just drop him?

1249
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 2: Why is he even on your team?

1250
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1251
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 4: Like I dude, I don't disagree at all.

1252
00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 3: Like he's on it.

1253
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 4: He's playing effectively on a per touch basis. He's in

1254
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 4: an offense that doesn't want to freaking run the ball.

1255
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 4: So even if you want to talk about volume, he's

1256
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 4: not going to get there. The Chiefs has already told

1257
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 4: you that they don't want to do that. They're not

1258
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 4: going to feature him. If anything, I'll take a left

1259
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 4: field shot on freaking Burchard Smith catching a wheel route

1260
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 4: in this game. Then I will on freaking flexing Isaiah

1261
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 4: freaking Pacheco. And to that point, the Ravens have been

1262
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 4: bad versus receiving backs over the last two years, so

1263
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 4: I would rather bet on that than anything with Pachecko. No,

1264
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 4: just I'm not man like. It all lines up that

1265
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 4: he's not getting usage. The team doesn't want to want

1266
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 4: to run the freaking ball. He's not good at running

1267
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 4: the ball. Tell me, would you all be surprised or

1268
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 4: if you're not betting this, but who leads them and

1269
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 4: carries this week, Isaiah Pachecko or Kareem Hunt?

1270
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 3: Hunt?

1271
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 6: Probably Hunt, maybe fifty to fifty.

1272
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't have a good feel on

1273
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: the total for this game. It's at forty nine. I

1274
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: would bet a lot of money on Chiefs plus two

1275
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: and a half. I think that line is a mistake.

1276
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: The Ravens have beaten the Chiefs in this era of

1277
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: Lamar and mahomes Oh.

1278
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 3: I think the Ravens are going to hand it to him.

1279
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: Man, They've only beaten him once. Ever, they get out

1280
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: of their themselves when they face Kansas City. It's in

1281
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: Kansas City. They just they they freak themse. Even when

1282
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: they are the better team, they get in their own

1283
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: heads and they always they get away from who they are.

1284
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: They always look bad against Steve Spagnolo, Like, I don't

1285
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: understand why the Chiefs are dogs. And also the ref

1286
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: in this game, Warren Sharp was just tweeting this out.

1287
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: I forget the ref's name, but I just thought it

1288
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: was earlier this morning that lifetime in games that the

1289
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: Ravens have played with this ref, they're zero to three

1290
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs lifetimes in game with this ref are

1291
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: six and zero. So like it just is very much

1292
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: going against the Ravens, even setting aside the fact that

1293
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: they're always bad against the Chiefs.

1294
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 2: Like, I know we're gonna get.

1295
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 4: One of those moments where Mahomes like does that crap

1296
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 4: where he runs along the sideline and then he like

1297
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 4: tries to fall over and pretend like somebody tried to

1298
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 4: like take his heill off and they touched his thigh

1299
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 4: or something.

1300
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: I tell like, obviously I would love to be wrong,

1301
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: but I really do not think the Ravens are winning

1302
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: this game, I will be very shocked. Honestly, I think

1303
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: Chiefs plus two and a half is eight smash, but

1304
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: I would love to be wrong, so we'll see what

1305
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: I will.

1306
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 3: Be the Ravens fan for this. I think they win.

1307
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 3: I think the Chiefs just don't have the firepower.

1308
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: Man, I appreciate you taking up the torch for me

1309
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: here Bears at Raiders. Caleb Williams and the Bears are

1310
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: coming off their best game of the season, but it

1311
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: did come against the Tallis defense that makes everybody look

1312
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: like they have the best game of their season. How

1313
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: will Chicago follow it up against the Raiders de bro

1314
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: I think.

1315
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 4: Well, and I think this Raiders defense is slowly evolving

1316
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 4: into the Raiders defense that I thought we were going

1317
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 4: to get this year.

1318
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 3: And they're not very good. Their secondary is not very good.

1319
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 4: Like they'd give another the seventh highest Sharks for ten,

1320
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 4: ten highest pass rating and tenth most passing arts per game.

1321
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 4: I think it's another opportunity for Roma Dunes eight to

1322
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 4: just eat Man lots of single high coverage. He's got

1323
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 4: a twenty nine point six percent target chair. I think

1324
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 4: Caleb's gonna feature him and they're I think Caleb's gonna

1325
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 4: have another good day.

1326
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: By the way, just because I only just mentioned this

1327
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: and this came out a minute ago on Twitter, Kyle

1328
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: van Noy was back at practice for the Ravens.

1329
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: For whatever that's.

1330
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 3: Worth it, let's go, let's go, all right?

1331
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: So all right, Ravens mind is two and a half?

1332
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 2: Go for it?

1333
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 3: Not? Yeah, love to see it.

1334
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kylevenoi moves the live five points for me.

1335
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 3: Uh fits.

1336
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 2: What do you think on Bears Raiders?

1337
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 5: Well, the Raiders are twenty sixth the DVOA against the pass,

1338
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 5: They're twenty first in pressure rates. So Caleb kind of

1339
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 5: goes from one soft matchup against Dallas into another against

1340
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 5: Las Vegas. He's QB three in fantasy scoring, sixth in

1341
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 5: passer rating among quarterbacks with more than one starts, tied

1342
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 5: for second, and touchdown passes eleventh in passing yard edge.

1343
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 5: It's been pretty good. And he's adding rushing value too,

1344
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 5: with ninety seven rushing yards in a touchdown. Looks like

1345
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 5: a pretty good spot for him. And you know, maybe

1346
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 5: this Ben Johnson Caleb Williams marriage is gonna work after all.

1347
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 2: I deeverer, have you started to I'm guessing the answer

1348
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 2: this is no.

1349
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: But do you feel any differently about like Caleb's long

1350
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: term outlook after the start of the season or no.

1351
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 4: I I don't want to sound like just the Caleb

1352
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 4: Hader constantly. I do think it has to get pointed

1353
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 4: out that, like I think it was three or all

1354
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 4: of it, all of his passing touchdowns were against terrible

1355
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 4: blown assignments by Dallas. So I don't think we've seen

1356
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 4: a big enough sample, especially him versus like actually good defenses.

1357
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 4: I think he's gotten a lot of cupcake matchups. He's

1358
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 4: gonna get another one this week. Not saying that he won't,

1359
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 4: but I want to see Caleb perform better when things

1360
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 4: are not going his way, in the sense of when

1361
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 4: a team can pressure you and it's against a good

1362
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 4: like not like a freaking Minnesota Vikings, but like a

1363
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 4: top seven to ten defense that can get after him'.

1364
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 4: That's the litmus test of like playing on schedule and

1365
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 4: backfoot rip it and playing better against pressure instead of

1366
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 4: trying to hero ball and falling back into the things.

1367
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 4: That's what I want to see for Caleb Williams.

1368
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 3: He does that.

1369
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 4: I'm more in the camp of believing than I am

1370
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 4: still skeptical.

1371
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: Sunday Night football, Packers at Cowboys. What is the Cowboys

1372
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: passing game going to look like against what is a

1373
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: great defense, and also that they are, in fact without

1374
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: Cede Lamb fits I'll start.

1375
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 6: With you, probably not pretty.

1376
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 5: The Packers are really applying the heat on quarterbacks and

1377
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 5: they're giving up four point eight yards per pass attempt,

1378
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 5: and I just I don't know if George Pickens can

1379
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 5: be a lead receiver in place of Lamb. That was

1380
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 5: kind of one of the things that had us excited,

1381
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 5: maybe people who wanted to invest in Pickens that he

1382
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,439
Speaker 5: didn't have to be a lead receiver with Ceedee Lamb around.

1383
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 5: He could just kind of do his thing like I'm

1384
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 5: I don't he doesn't really run the whole route tree,

1385
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 5: like his thing is making big plays down the sideline,

1386
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 5: and asking him to be a one for one ced

1387
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 5: Lamb replacement just doesn't work. So I think they're going

1388
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 5: to struggle.

1389
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 4: What do you think, Debro, I mean, I think what

1390
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 4: are we going to see from the Cowboys offense. We're

1391
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 4: going to see a crap ton of George Pickens and

1392
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 4: Jake Ferguson. So I don't know how much success they're

1393
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 4: going to have, and I think a lot of that

1394
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 4: comes down to I mean they're down some offensive linemen.

1395
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 3: I don't know how much time Dak is.

1396
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 4: Going to have, but I think that Pickens and Jake

1397
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 4: Ferguson are going to get a crap ton of targets.

1398
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 4: Like pencil them both in for like eight to twelve targets.

1399
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 4: They're going to get featured. And historically, George Pickens is

1400
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 4: very good against Single High, like that's his bread and butter,

1401
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 4: So I've got a little more hope against Like if

1402
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 4: you were to tell me the Packers d up into

1403
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,439
Speaker 4: like a too high a shell, then good luck. I mean,

1404
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 4: Ferguson is would be it and Pickens is going to struggle.

1405
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 4: But if if the Packers match him up with Single High,

1406
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 4: I think Pickens can have some success because he's going

1407
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 4: to get fource fed volume. But I'm not telling anybody

1408
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 4: it's gonna be pretty because Michael Parsons is in that

1409
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 4: backfield all freaking day standing over Dak Prescott.

1410
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 3: It's it's not gonna be good.

1411
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,439
Speaker 2: How many sacks is Micah getting in this game?

1412
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 5: Fits, I'll say just one because he's gonna get double

1413
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 5: and triple teamed all game.

1414
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 6: But like collectively, I think the.

1415
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 2: Just one.

1416
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 5: The Packers are going to get six, but Mica just

1417
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 5: gets one because of all the defensive attention and Debro

1418
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 5: mentioned it they've got. They lost their starting center Cooper Beebie.

1419
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 5: He's not playing first round rookie Tyler Booker. He's out

1420
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 5: for this game. So like down a couple of starting

1421
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 5: offensive linemen against this Packers pass rush is just not

1422
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 5: a good scene for the Cowboys.

1423
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 4: Debra, I'll take the over. I think Parsons Saxon twice.

1424
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 4: Like if I was a betting book, I would sit

1425
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 4: the line at one and a half.

1426
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to We have a two games

1427
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,439
Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football Jets at Dolphins is the first one.

1428
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: Breese Hall now has head back to back tough games

1429
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: coming off of his Great League one. He now gets

1430
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: the Dolphins defense in a possible get right game. Deebro,

1431
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: predict his stat line.

1432
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 4: Dude, this is a fun NERD experience for me. I

1433
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 4: love this question because I like went through I got

1434
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 4: into it deep in the bag. I was like, all right,

1435
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 4: we're gonna go rushing Ray. We're looking at rushing volume.

1436
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 4: I want to sit here and see how many projects

1437
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 4: like I went like full projections mode with this, so

1438
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 4: and then afterwards I compared it against what's live on

1439
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 4: Fantasy pro site. It was pretty freaking close, man. So

1440
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 4: I have Breesehall for sixteen rushing attempts, eighty rushing yards,

1441
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 4: two catches, twenty one receiving yards, and I'll give him

1442
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 4: a score. I know the red zone has been more

1443
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 4: Braven Allen, so maybe that goes sideways.

1444
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 3: The site had.

1445
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 4: Him for fourteen point four sixty two point four, three

1446
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 4: catches and twenty six yards, So comparatively, I'm a little

1447
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 4: more bullish because I think the Jets are just I mean,

1448
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 4: the Dolphins run defense has got awful, so I'm more

1449
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 4: ceiling focused here. But eighteen touches versus the site seventeen

1450
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 4: and a half, I have one hundred and one total yards,

1451
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 4: and the site for Fantasy Pros we haven't projected for

1452
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 4: eighty eight point four, so pretty close fits.

1453
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm actually pretty close to Debro on the rushing

1454
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 5: prediction and pretty close to our projections at Fantasy Pros

1455
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 5: with the receiving. So I've got seventeen for seventy five

1456
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 5: on the ground, three for twenty eight in the air. No,

1457
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 5: I'll say no touchdowns. But like opponents are running on

1458
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 5: the Dolphins defense at the highest rate in the league.

1459
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 5: Like Miami opponents have run the bond fifty two point

1460
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 5: eight percent of their offensive snaps. Interestingly enough, the Jets

1461
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 5: are being run on at the second highest rate, fifty

1462
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 5: one point three percent.

1463
01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 6: So you know, this series has been interesting.

1464
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 5: The Dolphins have kind of had the Jets number, and

1465
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 5: you know, I was surprised when I saw that Miami

1466
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 5: opened its three point favorites, but then I kind of

1467
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 5: remember the recent history has been going in the Dolphins direction.

1468
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 5: So maybe we see like a run heavy attack for

1469
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 5: both teams here, although I don't know, I don't I

1470
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 5: can't see the Dolphins just pounding away with the running game.

1471
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 5: But you never know this is going to be. This

1472
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 5: is kind of a sneaky interesting game.

1473
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 3: I think.

1474
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 2: Last game of the week Bengals at Broncos.

1475
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 1: Cincinnati got completely destroyed in Week three, and you might

1476
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: be able to point to the matchup as particularly tough,

1477
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: but a game at the Broncos is not that much

1478
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 1: easier for a backup quarterback. So how well do we

1479
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 1: think the Bengals offense will bounce back Debro.

1480
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 3: They won't.

1481
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 4: They're not going to bounce back against this defense the

1482
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 4: same problems that Jake Browning had against Minnesota. Tell me

1483
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 4: this sounds familiar. Now he faces a defense with Denver

1484
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 4: that has the twelve best per rusher rate and they

1485
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 4: blitz at the third highest freaking rate. Sound pretty similar

1486
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 4: to Brian Flores.

1487
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, because it is.

1488
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 4: It is a lot of man coverage. Jamar Chase is

1489
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 4: gonna get wrapped up of Patrick's certain this week, so

1490
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 4: that's not good. They cannot run the ball. The Bengals

1491
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 4: have arguably the worst offensive line in the NFL. Poor

1492
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 4: Chase brown dude, he has the lowest yards before contact

1493
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 4: per attempt in the NFL to work with, not even

1494
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 4: in a full freaking yard zero point four to three.

1495
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 4: This man is getting contacted before he even gets three

1496
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 4: feet past the freaking offensive line.

1497
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 3: So good luck.

1498
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 4: Like you're starting Jamar Chase and outside of Jamar Chase,

1499
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 4: I don't. And you're just starting Jamar Chase in principle

1500
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 4: because of based off of talent and volume. It's not

1501
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 4: because if you took the name of Jamar Chase out

1502
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 4: of this. Do I want to go up against Patrick

1503
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 4: freaking certain?

1504
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 6: No, I do not.

1505
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 4: But outside of that, I don't want to start a

1506
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 4: single other Bengal this week.

1507
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 3: None fits.

1508
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 5: I thought Chase Brown was actually averaging negative yards before

1509
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 5: contact per attempt?

1510
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 6: Is that wrong?

1511
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 5: Maybe I'm wrong on that, but at any rate, the

1512
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 5: Bengals offensive line ranks dead last in the league in

1513
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 5: the adjusted line yards run blocking metrics. So yeah, it's

1514
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 5: just hard to see any hope for the running game.

1515
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 5: And then the Bengals have given up ten sacks in

1516
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 5: face arguably the best pass rush in the league, or

1517
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 5: maybe it's screen Bays, you know, one of the best

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Speaker 5: pass rushes.

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Speaker 6: In the league.

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Speaker 5: Nick Benito is just like that. Dude is darn near

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Speaker 5: unblockable to the Broncos. He is just so good. I

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Speaker 5: don't see much helpe for the Bengals offense.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, FITZI, you're almost right. Chase Brown zero point zero two.

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Speaker 4: George before he's barely at the positive baby by a.

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Speaker 6: Toenail Blueto Blue Tarski.

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Speaker 2: So bad, dude, it's so bad on that lovely note.

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Speaker 1: Will go ahead and wrap up the show because we

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Speaker 1: went a little long best luck to everybody here in

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Speaker 1: week four for Debro and fits, I'm Ryan Warmley.

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