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Speaker 3: Saying that humans need fantasy to make life bearable. Humans

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Speaker 3: What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast. I am your host,

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Speaker 2: Chris Raymond of the Action Network, and this is our

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Speaker 2: NFC South offseason fantasy preview episode. Here to help me

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Speaker 2: break it down. One of the top rankers in the game,

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Speaker 2: Sean Kerner. Sean, what's going on up?

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Speaker 1: I'm actually up to talk about this NFC South. We

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Speaker 1: should have all four teams with different Week one quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: this season, which makes the productions extra fun.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. This is an interesting division.

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Speaker 2: I think it's wide open and should be some interesting

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Speaker 2: spots to invest in fantasy as well. So let's jump

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Speaker 2: right into it. Start with the Saints. They are the favorite.

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Speaker 2: Garrett Carr is going to TB nineteen. He signed a

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Speaker 2: four year, one hundred and fifty million dollar deal one

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Speaker 2: hundred mili guaranteed. I think my concern with cars, you know,

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Speaker 2: he's had they've had Gruden in there kind of giving

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Speaker 2: his NFL career and they've been his four worst years

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Speaker 2: and passer rating, completion rate, yards attempt yards per game.

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Speaker 2: So there is some talent here on this offense. But

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Speaker 2: McDaniel's offense, you know, getting Davante Adams. DeVante Adams puts

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Speaker 2: So I'm a little down on cars. You could tell

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Speaker 2: what about you?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, same here. You know, I'm in aligned with

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Speaker 1: He's probably more likely to finish top twenty than a

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Speaker 1: Like he's in a range where he's the last quarterback

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Speaker 2: Uh, Taysom Hill played about fifty percent of the quarterback

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Speaker 2: Ye, what do you think about Let's start with little Lave.

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Speaker 2: He's wide receiver fourteen obviously, I mean he broke out

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I wouldn't want to bet against him because

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Speaker 3: Those three games.

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Speaker 2: He got three touchdowns and sixteen passes for one hundred

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Speaker 1: So honestly, this is just betting on him saying healthy,

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Speaker 1: So I think he is absolutely worth some flyers in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, another guy I think i'd prefer in redraft just

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Speaker 1: So I think with Shaheed the upside is, you know,

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Speaker 2: Maybe they're gonna continue to go tight end to tight

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Speaker 1: That's a tough one because you know, at tight end sixteen,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Moro signing really worries me because

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Speaker 2: Still, I believe, So I believe So, I mean he

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, yeah, I believe he is.

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Speaker 3: In some weeks, but I think he's the one under valued.

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Speaker 3: I a lot more downside.

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Speaker 2: I think Camara's best years of passing by there's a

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't really have much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think last year is a better time to

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be providing value at different time.

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Speaker 3: Who you like for undervalued sweepers on Saints.

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Speaker 1: I gotta go for Shicha. He just because he does

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Speaker 1: I gotta go Juwan Johnson just because he's being drafted

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Speaker 1: line packages will eat in Johnson's touch on it upside.

435
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: So I think last year was the time to buy

436
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 1: in on him, but this year at tight end sixteen,

437
00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 1: I'm out.

438
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Johnson's overvalued. I think the Moreau signing

439
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 2: was big. That just kind of changed a lot. I

440
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 2: think car I don't. I don't like the red flags

441
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 2: I see with him and in Kamara, same thing. I think,

442
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 2: you know, ca America come back and still not be

443
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 2: super valuable even even with you know, fifteen plus touches

444
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 2: the game. So yeah, a lot of potential for downside here,

445
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,719
Speaker 2: a lot of by range of outcomes. Though for the Saints,

446
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 2: I know they will be kind of the market will

447
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,360
Speaker 2: be kind of all over the place with them.

448
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 3: Let's go to the Falcons. This is the team I

449
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 3: really like.

450
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 2: Obviously, the weakest part of their team is the quarterback position.

451
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 2: Got Rider going at thirty one and Henike going at

452
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 2: forty four. What are your thoughts on, you know, kind

453
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 2: of going forward with these two at QB.

454
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, it looks like, or it sounds like Ritter's

455
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,360
Speaker 1: a lot to be the weekend starter unless something weird happens.

456
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 1: So I bet he does have a fairly long leash,

457
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 1: you know, he Nike's not good enough them to be

458
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 1: too tempted to go the other way, so that I

459
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 1: think they definitely want to see what Ritter has. And

460
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 1: it's going to be a very run heavy offense again.

461
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: But you know, Ritter has two of the best young

462
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 1: pass catching talents and Drake London and Kyle Pitts, and

463
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: you know, a generational talent at running back in Vjohn

464
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: Robinson who's also a good pass catcher. So combining that

465
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 1: with Ritter's sneaky rushing ability, it could be similar to

466
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 1: what we saw, like from Marcus Marrioda earlier last season.

467
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: I know we were talking about him quite a bit

468
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: and like DFS and like being a high upside QB two.

469
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 1: So Ritter is absolutely worth a flyer at QB thirty one.

470
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 1: We can't project him to start, you know, fourteen or

471
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 1: more games, let's say, but he just offers too much

472
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: upside and I think that's safer floor than people think

473
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: at QB thirty one. So I do like Ritter there.

474
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 1: So I don't really like Tyler Heineke where he's going.

475
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: I think Ritter is definitely kind of in the range

476
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: where I want to take him.

477
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the rushing upside. You know, he it's

478
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: like it's not as much as like a true scrambling quarterback.

479
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 2: But he did scramble eight percent of the time last year,

480
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 2: which is is you know the week average about four

481
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: to five percent average sixteen rushing yards per game. Uh So, yeah,

482
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 2: I think I think there is some intriguing kind of

483
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 2: you know QB two upside. There just enough rushing upside

484
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: and just such a good receiving corps and the old

485
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: line should be pretty good as well. Uh So it's

486
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 2: really just how much can he do? But they they've

487
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 2: definitely he could be like a Tannehill, you know Titans

488
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 2: type of you know, we have Arthur Smith here.

489
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 3: Arthur Smith has.

490
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: Always been good at kind of maximizing the talent, even

491
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 2: if it's a run heavy offense.

492
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, I like Ritter.

493
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 2: You mentioned the pass catches Drake London go why receiver

494
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 2: twenty five you know he had He was targeted twenty

495
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 2: seven percent of his routes. That's very good two point

496
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 2: one yards per route. So he didn't really suffer as

497
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: much as a guy like.

498
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 3: Kyle Pitts did in that offense. What do you think

499
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 3: of him?

500
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: Well, obviously I love Drake London. I believe in my

501
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: comp of he's a blend of Kean Allen and Mike Evans.

502
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: I really do believe it. But you know, he is

503
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,719
Speaker 1: on a run heavy offense, which does hurt his ceiling,

504
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: but he was so involved last year he ranked fourteenth

505
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: and percentage of the team's air yards, he saw a

506
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 1: target on twenty seven percent of his routes. So while

507
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: they are going to be run heavy even more so

508
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: John Robinson, I'm guessing he should see enough volume to

509
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: overcome that. And he's younger. You know, he's only going

510
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: to be twenty two this season, so a year two

511
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: leap is certainly in the cards. And if he breaks out,

512
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: if Kyle Pitts breaks up, maybe they do throw a

513
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: little bit more. So I do like him in this range.

514
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: I think he definitely warrants it just based on talent alone.

515
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't go too much higher, like I wouldn't

516
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 1: take him inside the top twenty three, So I think

517
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 1: his ADP's fair. But you absolutely want to invest in

518
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: some Drake Lennon just get you know, some of this

519
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: talent heading into your two. And he was a wide

520
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: receiver twenty two in the final four games with Ritter

521
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: under center, they look I think they had really good chemistry.

522
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: So that was encouraging to see. So you know, full

523
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: offseason should help there. I will say there was no

524
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts yep for those games. But either way, just

525
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: seeing that he had more chemistry with Ritter, I think

526
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: than Mariota is a positive heading of this year.

527
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, another guy, Yeah, I just I just want to

528
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: invest in because I think he takes a year two leap.

529
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: You know, even with the volume on the offense, even

530
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: with Pits back, I think he's going to be productive

531
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 2: for the Falcons. Matt Collins is there. Why receives going

532
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 2: to the wide receiver ninety eight. I don't think he's

533
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: going to be a massive factor. They probably wanted him

534
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 2: to block and stuff. But what do you think of Pitts.

535
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 2: He's going tight in seven, six or seven depending on

536
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: your league. Only fifty two percent of his targets were

537
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: catchable last year, so you know that was down from

538
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: sixty six percent in twenty twenty one. Now, I don't think,

539
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 2: you know, Ritter is going to get back to that

540
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: Matt Ryan level, but could be. You know, there is

541
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 2: room to grow when you're only getting with only half

542
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: your targets to catch them.

543
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, Well, to be fair, I mean he has

544
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: a pretty high aid dot it was around fourteen, right,

545
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: so you see you're gonna say fewer catchable balls. But

546
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: either way, you know he's been held back by you know,

547
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 1: quarterback play. The scheme there was that weeks three and

548
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: four last year, he only ran around sixty five percent

549
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: of the time. I think Arthur Smith won in blockingymore so.

550
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: He's had to overcome a lot of things. But he's

551
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: still a generational talent. He's still only going to be

552
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: what twenty two years old this year from Yeah, he's

553
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: turning twenty three this year. Okay, Yeah, I mean still

554
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 1: a guy you want to invest in. I think Titans

555
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: six is fair. The question is do you want him

556
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: or Darren Waller? And I'm going to Kyle Pitts over

557
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: Darren Waller. Yeah, so I think tight end six makes sense.

558
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: He still has a ton of upside. This offense does

559
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: limit him, but I think he's still a player I

560
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: want to be investing in.

561
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're already kind of factoring in, you know

562
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 2: what happened last year, already factoring.

563
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 3: In that they're going to be run heavy, you know.

564
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I think there's a lot of upside for

565
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: a guy that put up a thousand yards is a

566
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: tight end at age twenty one, still still hasn't realized

567
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: his touchdown potential. The guy's six six and two point

568
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: fifty and he has three touchdowns in his career. We

569
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: could look at that as a red flag too, but

570
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: I look at as more kind of an issue with

571
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks which isn't resolved necessarily. Yeah, but there's this

572
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 2: room to grow, and tight end gets pretty ugly fast,

573
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: and you know, I'll take the twenty three year old

574
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 2: pits over the what thirty year old thirty one year old.

575
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: Thirty one year old? Yeah? Yeah, absolutely?

576
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: Okay, So Bijon is going RB three first rounder, eighth

577
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 2: overall of Texas. Good at pretty much everything, Explosive, elusive, fast,

578
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: good pass catcher, good blocker, good, good size. Yeah, any

579
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you what are you thinking here?

580
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 2: Top five pick on on this guy even though we've

581
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 2: never seen him play it down.

582
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I you know, he landed in such a

583
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: great spot. You know, he's a generational talent, lands in

584
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: a run heavy offense with a great offensive line. You

585
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: already mentioned that, but that's huge here. So he's fully

586
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: capable and will be the workhorse back on day one.

587
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: He's a good pass catching back, so's it was good

588
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: to see Rider. He was much more willing to check

589
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: down his running backs and as four starts in Mariota,

590
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: so a lot of the running back you know, pass

591
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: catching stats didn't look great last year, but that was

592
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: due to Mariota. So I think he could see you know,

593
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: three to four catches every game, and Tyler Aljier, you know,

594
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: he's getting eat in his touches some, but there's so

595
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: much volume to go around. I don't think it matters.

596
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: And if Algier goes down, I mean we could see

597
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: Dijon getting twenty five plus carries a game. So Vijon

598
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: has number one overall upside and a very high floor.

599
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: So I was saying, you know, running back three was

600
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: a bit steep earlier. I think right now I would

601
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: still take Barkley over him, but that's it. So I

602
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: think Bjean would be my RB four. So this is

603
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: just an instance of yeah, there's hype around him. He's

604
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: a sexy pick, but I think the ADP is about right.

605
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: He should be going super high even though we haven't

606
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: seen yet. He just has so much upside and running

607
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: backs they can just hit right away. So I would

608
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: say taking him RB four makes a ton of sense.

609
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'll still take Henry over him, but I don't,

610
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I do like, I do like

611
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: the big man, but yeah, I love B John is

612
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: a talent.

613
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: I think if we were drafting, like right now for

614
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, not just Dynasty, but like twenty twenty

615
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: four redraft, I would take them number one overall. Oh

616
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: but that's year yeah right right, yeah, for next year,

617
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,239
Speaker 1: Like if you're a drafting over twenty, I would take

618
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: them number one overall right now, though I think RB

619
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: four is fair.

620
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: Right, I like, I like Algyar at RB forty. I

621
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: just think this team is First of all, I think

622
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: B John's gonna be used as a pass catcher as well.

623
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna split on the slots. They love

624
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: this position with football, and remember, you know, even with

625
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: because this is such a run heavy team, I think

626
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: there will be enough carries for al Gear to hit

627
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: double digit touches in a lot of weeks. And obviously

628
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: if Bijon goes down yet big upside there, So I

629
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: actually like the price for Algier. Atlanta was see a

630
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: second in the league with the just under twenty seven

631
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: backfield carries per game.

632
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I think RB forty is right about

633
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: that range where you know you kind of need the

634
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: running back to go down to get value, Like if

635
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: he can carve out RB three flex value, that's got

636
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: what you're asking yourself and other running backs in this range,

637
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: and I think, just given the massive volume, it's likely.

638
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: But I think in this range I still rather have

639
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: like Rashad Penny or Dwan a change. We'll see what

640
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: happens with Dalvin Cook, but I think there's no doubt

641
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: that Algier is not gonna be able to leap frog Bijon.

642
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: That's the only downside with him. But I agree, I

643
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: think in the RB forty range he does make sense,

644
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: just because you can make a case where he's producing

645
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: RB three or flex value with Bijon healthy, especially if

646
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: you think Bijon is gonna line up in the slot

647
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: or something like that, they can still use Alger heavily

648
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: even Bijon there. So I do like him in this range,

649
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: but I'd still rather take like a penny or a chain,

650
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: and that's about it in this range.

651
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, it depends like a penny I've read

652
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,479
Speaker 2: you know in redraft, sure, but in basketball miss games,

653
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: I worry about uh and then h I mean, he

654
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: could start the years like the RB three or even

655
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: RB four, if.

656
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: He could be the number one or the number three.

657
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the range belt comes, we're alger kind

658
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: of yeah, good idea what he's gonna be.

659
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, we kind of know his floor.

660
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I do like him, and I honestly Patterson

661
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: CORNERO Patterson is going to RB sixty five. Actually white

662
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: him too there because I think he's gonna still get carries.

663
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: I think he's still gonna play, get his return so

664
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: that's a couple extra cracks of touchdowns.

665
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: And but I also think he's gonna play a lot

666
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: more wide receiver this year.

667
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: So kind of an intriguing mix going for a guy

668
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: that's essentially gonna be free.

669
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 3: So I do think he beats this ADP as long

670
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: as he's healthy at sixty five.

671
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree, Like it's one of all.

672
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: The Falcons backs, Yeah, yeah, the Falcons running backs essentially, that's.

673
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: What it comes down to because he is way too cheap,

674
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: and they're going to carve out a role for him

675
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: to produce yep, with Bijon there, so they've already kind

676
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: of committed to that. And he's the kind of player

677
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't need that many touches to out hit this.

678
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: And then again, if any one of these running backs

679
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: goes down, the other two benefit. So there is built

680
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: an upside as well that I don't think the market's

681
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: really factory in right now.

682
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: Now you have a lot of Patterson on ah on basketball.

683
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: It's like my last running back RB six. All right,

684
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: who do we like? Recap for Falcons undervde guy Sleepers.

685
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: I think Desmond Ridder just because you kind of get

686
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: like the Drake London Kyle Pitts breakout, you know, bjonding

687
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: a good pass catching back. Ridder playing fifteen games is

688
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: probably more likely than people think, so I think, and

689
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: his rushing upside, So I think RB thirty one is

690
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: a great time to get Ridder. Yeah, yeah, thirty one.

691
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

692
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: I like Ridder like out here, like Patterson, and I

693
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: think all those guys are undervalued.

694
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: What about overvalued guys or busts.

695
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: No one. I think everybody is either appropriately priced or undervalued.

696
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: So I can't make a case for anybody being overpriced

697
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: on the Falcons.

698
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, same area.

699
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: I mean, you know you've mentioned heinike, but he's going

700
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: forty four toquarterback.

701
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's knocking yourself out if you want to take

702
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: him there to knock yourself out.

703
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 2: But all right, let's go to the Carolina Panthers. They

704
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: got Bryce Young at quarterback, the rookie. They also got

705
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: Dalton is there, Andy Dalton there. Frank Reich is the

706
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: head coach now. The offensive coordinator is Thomas Brown, who

707
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: is over there with Sean McVay. He said he wants

708
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: kind of a fifty to fifty split between Reichs old

709
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: offenses and his Rams offense. So I guess just your

710
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: thoughts on kind of the stuff big overall overgeme change

711
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: in Carolina.

712
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's well, it's hard to be overly confident, you know,

713
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: how the offense will look in twenty twenty three, especially

714
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: with the rookie qb Underson, or if they're gonna have

715
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: a mixed scheme. You know, it's not impacting my projections

716
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: too much. But you know Young, I think he'll start

717
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: right away, you know, they're gonna have the camp battle

718
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: with Andy Dalton. I think they've already kind of hinted

719
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: that Young's the QB one, so I think he's close

720
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: to a lock to start week one. We'll see what happens.

721
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: But he's similar to Kyler Murray and that he's small.

722
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: He's athletic, but he's more He's more of a Polish

723
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 1: passer than Kyler, and he doesn't lean on his legs

724
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,479
Speaker 1: as much, so I don't know if he has Again,

725
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the same upside as Anthony Richardson, but

726
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: I do think he has more upside than CJ. Stroud,

727
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: So I think QB twenty four he might offer some

728
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: value there if you can get him there. He doesn't

729
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: have like the greatest pass catching unit, but I think

730
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: he get by with guys like Chark, I like Mingo.

731
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: We'll talk about him later. Hayton Hurst is okay, so

732
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: I think he has enough to get by, and I

733
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: think he'll he'll lean on his legs probably more than

734
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: he wants year one to kind of overcome everything. So

735
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: I think at QB twenty four I can get behind Young,

736
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: whereas Stroud I couldn't get behind his ADP in this range.

737
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I think, you know, I was

738
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: always like a team Young. Oh you know, I know

739
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: some people felt Stroud should have gone earlier, and you know,

740
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: some people thought that maybe, you know, the Panthers weren't

741
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: gonna pick a small guy like Young. But I mean

742
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: Young is clearly the best quarterback in a class in

743
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: terms of quarterback skills. Now richards could Richardson be a

744
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 2: better fantasy asset, absolutely, but in just terms of your

745
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: quarterback and skills, I think it's Bryce Young.

746
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: But you know, Andy Dalton is there.

747
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: If he falters, so I mean there is some there

748
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: is some downside if he doesn't get off to a

749
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 2: great start or whatever or not. But yeah, overall, yeah,

750
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 2: I think I think he's priced fairly. You know, Dalton,

751
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: I would like if it was like a not as

752
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: good backup as Andy Dawton here, but you know, it

753
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: is what it is. Adam Thielen, I mean, he got

754
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 2: three years twenty five mil fourteen guaranteed it. But he's

755
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: this is gonna be his age thirty three season posted

756
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: career lows in yards per catch at ten point two

757
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 2: yards per route at one point six yards after the catch,

758
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: at two point three a twenty one percent contested catch

759
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: eight was.

760
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 3: A career low. Point oh one four or one.

761
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: Point four percent of his of his receptions, he had

762
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: a mistackle forced on, which is a career low, his

763
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: career low in his PFF grade career low, and his

764
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: run blocking. So this guy, I mean, there's there's a

765
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: lot of red flag, which is why I say, like,

766
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: you know, we talked about this the other part. He's

767
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: going wide receiver fifty five, a guy like Robert Woods

768
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: who's younger and not it wasn't declining as quite as

769
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: hard as going you know, thirty spots laiter at receiver.

770
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: So I find it tough to get behind Demen. But

771
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: I mean I get the other side of it. There's

772
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: like he's his fourteen meal guaranteed he's gonna be the

773
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: number one wide receiver on day one.

774
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And I don't think he's like washed quite yet.

775
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: I watched some of the film last year and he

776
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: is more open than people realize. Cousins just opted to

777
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: target Justin Jefferson and said, and can you blame him?

778
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: So I think he could be Bryce Young's number one

779
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: target to start this season anyway. So he seems like

780
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: a safer high four type of guy in this range,

781
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: but I'm more interested in going for upside outside of

782
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: the top fifty. And you kind of hit this home

783
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: and our Texans previews you get Robert Woods thirty slots later,

784
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: and I kind of see them as similar. Yeah, so

785
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: that's kind of how you kind of take advantage of

786
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: that as opposed to like overdrafting at him Feeling a bit.

787
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: But I do think he'll help Bryce Young out of

788
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: the gate. He's just not a guy that I want

789
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: to be targeting and best ball or redraft because this

790
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: is the range you kind of want to go for,

791
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: like a guy that has upside to be a potential

792
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: wide receiver two or wide receiver three. I don't think

793
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: Feeling has that anymore.

794
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 2: And you know you look at yeah, the numbers decline

795
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: rash year and you say, okay, well, you know, watching

796
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: a film, he did get open some. It wasn't as

797
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: bad as it looked, but that was as you know,

798
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: the numbnumber two, number three really at times targeting that

799
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: offense because once they got Hockinson, you know, Hockinson was

800
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: kind of number two. So like if the defense is

801
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: treating him as a number one that I just think that.

802
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 3: Could end poorly for him. You know, this year.

803
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: Chark is going at wide receiver sixty five, about ten

804
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: spots lower than Dean. He got five mil guaranteed on

805
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: a one yeard. He's twenty seven, so he should be

806
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: in his prime, So a non zero chance chart could emerge.

807
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: Is like the leading receiver for this team now, Like

808
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: he's been very erratic, but like not quite as erratic

809
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 2: as it seems he's He's been between one point four

810
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: and one point seven yards per route the last four years,

811
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 2: and twenty nine percent of his targets were deep we're

812
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: twenty yards downfield or more last year cording to PFFS,

813
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 2: and he was in the top twentieth percentile in terms

814
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: of deep yards per route. So he has like some

815
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: boom potential, like as a best ball guy. Actually don't

816
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: mind him. I think he does have some kind of

817
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 2: boom potential. But yeah, it's at the consistency.

818
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: I still don't. I still don't think it's going to

819
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: be there. What about you?

820
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so he bounced around a bit. I

821
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: think he's been on what three teams now or four?

822
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: Maybe I think this is a third but he's still

823
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: only going to be twenty seven years old, so he's

824
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: still in his prime. Have to remember that he's still,

825
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: you know, a deep threat who has a ton of upsides,

826
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: so he's he's worth a fire and basketball in this

827
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: range just do the wide receiver room being fairly wide

828
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: open and being a deep threat. So I think stacking

829
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: him with Bryce Young makes a ton of sense. I

830
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: think that's how he's going to unlock Young's upside. So

831
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, in the sixty four, I don't I

832
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 1: don't know if he'll be the number one target, maybe

833
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: like lead the team in receiving yards. Yeah he could, yeah,

834
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: but yeah exactly, but not maybe in reception. So that's

835
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: that's just his style. So he's perfect for best ball

836
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: in this range. And yeah, so I think Chark and

837
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: Mingo are the two guys in this wide receiver room I'm.

838
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: Targeting and Mingo of courses, is second rounder at a

839
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: ole miss two hundred and twenty five pounds plus going

840
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: at seventy two four point four to six forty yard dash.

841
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 3: It doesn't really struggle.

842
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 2: With route running at times, but does have some good

843
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: yak ability, So I think he's in the mix and

844
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: he's probably battling Terrass Marshall, who you know, is kind

845
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 2: of a holdover, but you know they're they're gonna give

846
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: him a shot, but he's not gonna cost him much

847
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: if they want to completely move on from him. So

848
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 2: he's going wide receiver eighty six. I'd rather just bet

849
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 2: on the rookie in Mingo there and.

850
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 3: Then we Viska's going at one O two.

851
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: I mean, he's gonna be a gadget guy, so he

852
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: probably doesn't hit that ADP unless he has like you know,

853
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 2: I mean, right, didn't mention like Chanel could do Deebo

854
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 2: Samuel like things. I mean, maybe he's an outside shot

855
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: that like the starters are Charted Dealing and Chanall, So

856
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: maybe I probably worry about Marshall more than Channel because

857
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 2: chan you know, it's going so late. But he can

858
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: also be released with no no real consequences, so it's

859
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: it's kind of just something to monitor, I guess in camp.

860
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but out of those guys, I do like Mingo, like,

861
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: I think he's the best value. I liked him heading

862
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: into the draft, and I love this landing spot because

863
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: there is a chance he could be the number one

864
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: target he could be the number four target for all

865
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: we know, but yeah, he has a shot, and not

866
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: many rookies this season specifically landed in a situation like that,

867
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: Like some of the top guys are like the number

868
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: three target off the bat, But Mingo, he's built like

869
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: a running back and he has that great yacability. He

870
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: can also win downfield, so he might. Comps for him

871
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: are in between Leaviska Channel ironically and Deebo Samuel, so

872
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: he I don't think he has Devo's upside, but like

873
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: he's that type of guy, right, So I think he's

874
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: in direct competition with Leviscas Chanal. So I mean maybe

875
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: Terrence Marshall has the safest spot than we think. But

876
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: I do love his upside at wide receiver seventy just

877
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: because I think he could end up being the number

878
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: one target because remember last year, I mean, Chanel was

879
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: just seeing a ton of targets. He wasn't playing much

880
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: Like That's the kind of player I think Mango can

881
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: be where they just get him a quick target, you know,

882
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: get some yak after that target him downfield. So he

883
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: has a ton of upside in this offense. But again,

884
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: he could be the number four or five target for

885
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: all we know, but in the wide receiver seventy range

886
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: and based on his talent, he's definitely worth taking a

887
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: shot here.

888
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, yeah, another one of those situations where

889
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: it's like a lot of uncertainty, take the unknown.

890
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 3: Who could just you know, if he balls out? You know,

891
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: So I like him as well.

892
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: Marshall is a guy I think I'm not really high

893
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: and you know, I know he had a good stretch

894
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: last year, but I just don't see him holding a

895
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 2: like I've consistent enough role for the entire year with

896
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: the kind of the way this room is shaping up.

897
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 3: Hurst is tight end twenty four.

898
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

899
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: First, I'm thinking, you know, Frank Reraik has used committees

900
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: at tight end a lot, but Herst Dick got a

901
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: three year, twenty two million dollars deal with thirteen meal guaranteed.

902
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: So I mean they're they're paying him like top tight end,

903
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: like a you know, every down tight end.

904
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 3: Any thoughts on him?

905
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: This is I mean, this is similar to Dalton Schultz,

906
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: where I think he gets a downgrade going from the

907
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: Bengals offense and Joe Burrow to the Panthers with a

908
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback in Bryce Young. However, there's a chance he

909
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: could be the number one target in this offense too,

910
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: so I think that's fairly unlikely. So I'm not racing

911
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: to get him at tight end twenty four. Right. He

912
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: was my most roster tight end in basketball last year

913
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: because he was so cheap and on the Bengals. I

914
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: think he's fairly priced here, but I much rather get

915
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: Sam Laporta in this range. I think he just offers

916
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: way too much upside. So I think Hurst might help

917
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: Bryce Young, but I don't think it goes the other

918
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: way around. I'm passing on Hearst if he's ever you know,

919
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: going inside the top twenty four.

920
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's not very much to get excited about.

921
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: But I think if you're investing in his passing game,

922
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: you want to do it with, Yeah, the rookies or

923
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 2: one of these wide outs, who are you know? Fifty

924
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: five is the highest the wide outs are going. And

925
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: then we got running game. We got Miles Sanders coming over.

926
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 2: He got a pretty big contract, and they're saying like, hey,

927
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: we're gonna let him play three downs here. So I

928
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 2: kind of like Sanders RB nineteen. I mean, he's always

929
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 2: been efficient I think the old line is decent here,

930
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: and you know, I think he's going to get a

931
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: chance to play a lot. And remember Frank Reich, he's

932
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: the guy who you know, really was just like all

933
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 2: in on riding Jonathan Taylor and the way they paid

934
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: Miles Sanders.

935
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 3: You know, you don't really see teams paying running backs

936
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: in this day and age.

937
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: So I think there's like a there's a chance Reich

938
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: might really they might end up feeding Sanders more than

939
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: we think because we're kind of thinking back to him

940
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: with that frustrating role.

941
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: Yeah in Philly last year.

942
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 2: But you know they four years, twenty five male thirteen guaranteed,

943
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: and they've already said we want to get him to

944
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 2: the fifty catch range. Dude, Staley is the running backs

945
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: coach here. He was he had a fifty catch.

946
00:44:59,200 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 3: Or what did he come?

947
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a fifty catchyer under Duce Staley as

948
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 2: the running back coach with the Eagles in twenty nineteen.

949
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think just the way this team sets up,

950
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: the defense shouldn't be terrible, but it should be one

951
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 2: of those offenses that they're probably going to have to

952
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: be running back centric just to start at we so yeah,

953
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: I like, I'm in on Sanders here at arby nineteen,

954
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 2: what about you.

955
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was tricky to project, just like about a

956
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: month ago, because I wasn't sure, you know, on his

957
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: receiving role. So it's been encouraging to hear that that

958
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: they want him to be a three down back. And

959
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: like you said, he's flashed on the pass. It's not

960
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: like he can't catch the ball. They just didn't use

961
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: him that way. So he's one of the few backs

962
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: that has true free down upside in this range. So well,

963
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 1: he probably won't be as efficient going from the Eagles,

964
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: who have a great offensive line. You know, they score

965
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: a ton of points. Of the Panthers, they still have

966
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 1: a decent offensive line, like you said, so I could

967
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: get behind him here, and that hinders on him catching

968
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: you know, forty pass forty plus passes, which I sound

969
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: more likely. So the more we've been hearing about his

970
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: receiving usage, the more I've been in on Sanders at

971
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: RB twenty here.

972
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I just like that.

973
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, go ahead, And yeah, like I was saying earlier,

974
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: like Bryce Young, he doesn't like to scramble as much

975
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: as people think, like he would be willing to check

976
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: it down the Sanders definitely more so than like a

977
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: jail and hurts. But I think Sanders like he should

978
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: be close to workers back if we're trusting the coach

979
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: speak here.

980
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean just we've seen it with Rich though,

981
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 2: just you know, given these and the like the money,

982
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: like everything kind of lines up to that to suggest

983
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: that you know we've seen it with Rich The money

984
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: is there, you know, there's kind of it's not like

985
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: they're they have like an alpha dog receiver, so he

986
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 2: could get a decent amount of pass catching work. So yeah,

987
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: I like Sanders here, the backup, the handcuffed pride chew

988
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: of Hubbard at this point he's going to RB fifty eight.

989
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: Don't hate it, you know, especially if you know think

990
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 2: Sander's going to be a three down back, Hubbard might

991
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: be a three down pack of Sanders goes down, So

992
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: I don't hate it any thought on Hubbard.

993
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I agree. I think at RB fifty eight

994
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: you're not expecting Hubbert to put up numbers as long

995
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: as Sanders is healthy. I don't think we should. But

996
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: if Sanders were to go down, I think he does

997
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: have RB two three type of upside, I can't. I

998
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: know you like black shirt, but I can't imagine it

999
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: ain't in his role too much, So he doesn't have

1000
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: that much competition. That's key when looking at backs in

1001
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: this range. I think I would still go with Jerome Ford,

1002
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: Chase Brown, or Jalen Warren in this range, and then

1003
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: Hubbard would be just behind them. I think he's like

1004
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: the fourth best in these running backs going in like

1005
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: the late fifties.

1006
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do like Warren a lot.

1007
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: Brown still still want to make sure he bins that

1008
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: number two job, but and in Ford looks like, yeah,

1009
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: he looks like he's in the driver's seat. So yeah,

1010
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: I do think Hubbard's interesting here. Okay, what who are

1011
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 2: your sleepers or underbiey guys for the Panthers to recap?

1012
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: Jonathan Mingo for sure, I think, especially if he he

1013
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: falls outside of the top sixty five, top seventy, he

1014
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: just has the widest range of outcomes where he could

1015
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: be the number one target based on how they want

1016
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: to use him. He certainly has that ability. He's good

1017
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: with the ball in his hands, he can win downfield,

1018
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: so he just he has the higher ceiling. You know,

1019
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: DJ Shark probably does have the higher ceiling, but I

1020
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 1: think Mingo has the best value at wide receiver seven

1021
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: right now.

1022
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like like, I like, I do like Chark.

1023
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 3: I think Chark, especially in basketball.

1024
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,479
Speaker 2: I would say basketball Chark, Mingo just all four mats,

1025
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: just that unknown coming into a passing game where the

1026
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: number one spot is wide open.

1027
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 3: And then Miles Sanders as well.

1028
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: I think, like you said, three down upside here and

1029
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: also some of that kind of four Steed Jonathan Taylor

1030
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 2: type website as well.

1031
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: What about overvalue guys.

1032
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: Busts got to go with Hayden Hurst. You know, cashed

1033
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: in with him last year. He cashed in with his

1034
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: good season last year, but you know he's going to

1035
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: a much worse offense, to put it kindly, So I

1036
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: just don't like his upside here. I think his ADP

1037
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: is fair, but everybody else on the Panthers I think

1038
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: is undervalued. So you'd have to go with hayden Hurst

1039
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: here for the best.

1040
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 3: For me, it's Steven.

1041
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: I just think I just think there's a lot of

1042
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 2: guys that could kind of like. I don't think even

1043
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: if he starts year as a number one, I don't

1044
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 2: think he'll last. And they're just enough red flags for

1045
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 2: me to you know, to be pretty worried about him. Buccaneers,

1046
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: That's that's who we got to finish up with here.

1047
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 2: Bucks are expected to be in the seller of this

1048
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: division now Tom Brady no longer there. We also got

1049
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: Byron left wish to oc. He's out incomes Dave Canalis,

1050
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:42,479
Speaker 2: who was the Seattle quarterback coach credited with turning around

1051
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 2: Geno Smith. So what can he do with Baker Mayfield,

1052
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: who's going at QB thirty three. It's never a good

1053
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: sign when there's thirty two teams in the league and

1054
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: your top quarterback is going at QV thirty three.

1055
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, no kidding.

1056
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: I mean this is shaping up to be a true

1057
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: you know, can't battle between Baker and Kyle Trask apparently.

1058
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: But the one thing going for whoever starts is they

1059
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: still have two i mean future Hall of Fame level

1060
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: wide receivers and Mike Evans certainly and Chris Godwin. So

1061
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: there is some potential here. Should still be a pretty

1062
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: pass heavy offense, and I would bet on Baker. I

1063
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: would just lean Baker. I would say he's twenty eight

1064
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: years old, former first round pick. He definitely performed better

1065
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: with the Rams towards the end of last season, which

1066
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: I think helped mix his cases here, whereas Trask is,

1067
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: you know, an unproven second round pick from a couple

1068
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: of years ago. So I'm leaning Baker here. And like

1069
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: I said, he has, you know, Chris Godwin and Mike Evans,

1070
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: so it's worth some best ball stacks at least, you know,

1071
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: when you get a guy outside the top thirty two

1072
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: where he might start all seventeen games. So I think

1073
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: out of the two, I'm leaning Baker. I'm not going

1074
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: crazy with him there, but I think it makes sense

1075
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: to have some Baker and like Godwin Evan stax right now.

1076
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and let's talk about winning Evans.

1077
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: So Godwin is going around wide receiver twenty seven, Edwin

1078
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 2: Van's excuse me, wide receiver thirty one. So they're both

1079
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: going right around at you know, right right around at

1080
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 2: top thirty. Guy when is younger age twenty seven, Now

1081
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 2: he's a year of removed from that aco yep. But

1082
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: then Mike Evans, I mean, this dude never has put

1083
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 2: up fewer than a thousand yards in the season, So, uh,

1084
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: you know, is this is this the first time Evans

1085
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 2: does that? Because now he's he should be a bit

1086
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: of a value, you know, even with even if there

1087
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: isn't a consistent touchdown production.

1088
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: What do you think, Well, I mean, trends were meant

1089
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: to be broken, so there's a chance. Let me let

1090
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: me see what my projection is for him, So I

1091
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: have I have around nineteen fifty so I think you know,

1092
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: I pointed a less than fifty percent chance he continues

1093
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: that streak with Baker Mayfield or College Trask under center.

1094
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: But I still like him. I think you can get

1095
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: all three receivers if we want to forgo Russell gage

1096
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: in there. Okay, well you know you can get a bage.

1097
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1098
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 2: I think he's uh, he's a third. Something's not right

1099
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: with him. He's uh, he got he had that bad

1100
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: neck injury, remember yeah, the last end of the and

1101
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: he hasn't practiced since. Yeah, he's out of camp with

1102
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 2: an undisclosed.

1103
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: So he's a third and a top. I'm not saying

1104
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: take yes, but all three are way cheaper than they

1105
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: were last year, which makes sense because you're going from

1106
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: Tom Brady to Baker Mayfield or Kyle Schraft. But like

1107
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: I said, this should still be a pass heavy offense.

1108
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: I think you know, Chris Godwin and Mike Evans were

1109
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: putting up numbers before Brady was there. Like, they're legit

1110
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: receivers no matter what, so I think we can consider

1111
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: them quarterback proof. And like you mentioned, I think the

1112
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: big thing with Godwin is, you know, last year he

1113
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: was eased in he was coming off that ACL tear

1114
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: so early in the season. I remember he was being

1115
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: draft outside the top thirty last year. I think just

1116
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: because we weren't sure if he's gonna be healthy this year,

1117
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: he should be closer to one hundred percent. Like you said,

1118
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 1: he's younger than Evans, he's still in his prime. So

1119
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: I do like him at wide receiver twenty six. You

1120
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: know you had mentioned something about out coach speak talking

1121
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: about them expanding his route tree, which would not, yeah,

1122
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: be ideal. So if you have more on that that

1123
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: that would sway me off for a little bit. But

1124
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: I'm assuming he'll be sort of that target hog thought

1125
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: receiver again this year. But we'll see.

1126
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So they're talking about canals is talking about you know,

1127
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: Godwin still has some freel stretching ability and he has

1128
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 2: the ability to play outside, which it sounds good, but

1129
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: that means he less you know, high percentage targets that

1130
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 2: he's been getting in a slot.

1131
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 3: But again, I think something's off with Gauge.

1132
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, you know, just I mean,

1133
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: I could be wrong, but it just seems like looking

1134
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: at the injury and the undisclosed, just one of those

1135
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: things where wouldn't be surprised if he just didn't end

1136
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: up even super right this year.

1137
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1138
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 2: I mean again, we're a long way out. He could

1139
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 2: be fine, but either way, I don't think he factors

1140
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 2: in too much. But he could play the slot well.

1141
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 2: Godwin played outside. You know, that could be kind of

1142
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: how they go about it if that's the lineup. Souh.

1143
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: But I've done him with you. I think at twenty

1144
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 2: seven for Godwin and thirty one for Evans, I still

1145
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: think there's probably more upside than down. You know, Like,

1146
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 2: these guys are gonna be running a ton of routes.

1147
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 2: If the team is bad, then they're gonna have to throw.

1148
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm fine with these guys at this right.

1149
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: I'm not like rushing to get him, but I don't

1150
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: think they're gonna bust because the market has kind of

1151
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 2: factored in the down, yeah, pretty appropriately. And then Katten's

1152
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: thirty three tight end thirty three, he's a twenty twenty

1153
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: two fourth rounder. The a dot wasn't great last year

1154
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 2: under six uh actually the unplying metrics weren't great last

1155
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: year target per route. But like he also, I don't

1156
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: think he has much competition. Cameron Raid is gone. They

1157
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 2: drafted this guy, paying Durham, but that's a day three pick.

1158
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 2: Kokeef is more of like a full back h back

1159
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: tight end, you know, hybrid guys. So I don't know,

1160
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: what do you think I ot in here at thirty

1161
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: three among tight ends.

1162
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 1: I mean, he does seem a bit cheap as the

1163
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: likely week one starter at tight end thirty three, And

1164
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: like you said, fifth rounder, you know, paying Durham makes

1165
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: no noise. It's just unlikely. And Aten was able to

1166
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: hold off Brat and even Kyle Rudolph, who you know,

1167
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: they're not great, but he was able to you know,

1168
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: warrant playing time, and he was running, you know, over

1169
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: an eighty percent routes run rate, like five of the

1170
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: final ten games or so. So I mean he's probably

1171
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: gonna be a workhorse tight end on day one. So

1172
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: you can't say that about many tight ends outside of

1173
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: the top thirty, So I think he makes a ton

1174
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: of sense there. Like you said, the underlying metrics weren't great,

1175
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: Like I don't think he's a fantastic prospect, but just

1176
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: based on the volume alone, I mean, if you're in

1177
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: a league where you're taking tight ends in this range,

1178
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: I think he does make sense.

1179
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think he beats his ADP if

1180
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 2: he's if he's healthy. Yeah, you know, going outside the

1181
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 2: top thirty two is the starting tight end. So yeah,

1182
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 2: and then we got the running the backfields with Rashad White,

1183
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 2: your two guy third rounder ats last year, another guy

1184
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: not really promising underlying METRI fifty eighth of sixty qualifiers

1185
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 2: and yards after contact accord to PFF at two point

1186
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 2: three fifty seventh of sixty in elusiveness rating. We've heard

1187
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: some rumors about potentially adding Ezekiel, Elliott, Karhem Hunt, even

1188
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 2: some Dalvin Cook.

1189
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 3: I think that's a lots like me.

1190
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: But you know, Chase Edmonds and Sean Tucker undrafted guyer

1191
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: behind him, so he's not a ton behind him as

1192
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: of now. So what are you doing with White at

1193
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 2: RB twenty five?

1194
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? So I mean he has the inside track to

1195
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: be the Week one starter with Leonard Fournette gone, but

1196
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: he does have some competition with you know, Chase Edmonds

1197
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: and John Tucker. You know why I liked White heading

1198
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 1: into his rookie season, you know, talented third round pick

1199
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: out of Arizona State, but he was more known for

1200
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: his pass catching ability. So I think he should have

1201
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: that role this year obviously, but he did struggle as

1202
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: a runner. Like you mentioned, he ranked fifty six out

1203
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: of fifty eight am I expected yards per attempt model

1204
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: last year, which is not good. And you know that

1205
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 1: they're losing Donovan Smith, Jack Mason's gone, they're still you know,

1206
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 1: scrambling after Ali mar Pett retired a couple of seasons ago.

1207
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: They're moving Tristan Wurfs to the left side. So oh,

1208
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm could be shaky and ended up being more averages here.

1209
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: So that's gonna hurt White's you know, rushing upside. So

1210
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: while White has upside as a potential Week one started,

1211
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: he definitely feels frozen pondie, you know what I mean. Yeah,

1212
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, so, well, well, they're probably still going to

1213
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: be pass heavy. He has competition for early downs and

1214
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: Sean Tucker potentially and passing downs with Chase Edmonds and

1215
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: that's not even factory in like you said, Zeke or

1216
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: a cream hunt going there. So I'm probably off of

1217
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: White at RB twenty five right now.

1218
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I mean, obviously a vote of confidence

1219
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: release in Fournette, but until we see you know, what

1220
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 2: else they're going to do in the backfield.

1221
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 3: If anything, it's it's tough.

1222
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 2: And then the fact that, yeah, I know the old

1223
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 2: line was bad, but like you said, it's not really

1224
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: we're not really looking at like a massive step forward,

1225
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: especially in the run blocking department. Obviously, you know, younger quarterback,

1226
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: maybe you could mitigate some of the issues that you know,

1227
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: Brady notoriously struggled with, like the interior pressure and he

1228
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 2: was he just had to get the ball out of

1229
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 2: his hands last year. He couldn't afford to get hopped

1230
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 2: like that. But yeah, I'm not it looked like earlier

1231
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 2: in the offseason like Okay, White, you know, Fournet's gone

1232
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 2: take a step forward, but it's it's just not shaping

1233
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: up very well I think for White.

1234
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 3: And yeah, this might be the worst iteration of the

1235
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 3: Bucks team in a while.

1236
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: You know, they won what was eight games last year

1237
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 2: nine games, So now, yeah, they were eight to nine

1238
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:47,439
Speaker 2: last year, won the division, but their win total most

1239
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: spots is around six and a half. So you know,

1240
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 2: there's potential this team could be even worse than last

1241
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 2: year with the offensive line that really didn't get any better.

1242
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 3: Like, I don't think the Bucks will be competitive, but

1243
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 3: I think it's more so due to their defense. So yeah,

1244
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 3: I just I don't know. It's there's just not enough

1245
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 3: there for me with White. I guess that's that's the

1246
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 3: way I'll put it at twenty five.

1247
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's wrap it up just to recap underbiey, guys,

1248
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 2: sleepers on the books.

1249
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: Gotta go with Chase Edmonds. You know, I don't like

1250
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: White at RB twenty five. Now, if they bring in

1251
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: a Zeke or Kaream Hunt, I wouldn't want Chase Edmonds here.

1252
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: But at RB seventy seven, he does have some upside

1253
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: just because there's so much volatility, you know, in this backfield.

1254
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: I don't think we've talked about Sean Tucker, but he

1255
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: was expected to be a mid round pick, went undrafted

1256
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:41,919
Speaker 1: due to medicals concern. He missed the June mini camp

1257
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: due to the He's expected back by training camp, but

1258
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with him, so he

1259
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: might be out of the picture. I don't know. It

1260
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: just seems like in a situation like this, Edmunds at

1261
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: RB seventy seven right now might as well take some flyers.

1262
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: So he's probably the biggest sleeper right now for me

1263
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: on the Bucks.

1264
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 3: That's a good point on Edmunds. I wasn't even really

1265
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 3: even really on my radar just because of the.

1266
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: Kind of flux. But yeah, he's that number two. Yeah,

1267
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: there's definitely definitely something's me.

1268
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: The number one. Yeah, I mean White struggles, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1269
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

1270
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 2: It could turn into it could develop into a committee

1271
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 2: real quick and Edmunds could could win that for ye.

1272
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 2: For me, it's it's Kate and I just think, you know,

1273
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 2: he's going outside the top top thirty tight ends and

1274
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 2: I expect him to start and way a full confidence snaps.

1275
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 3: So it's not sexy.

1276
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 2: He wasn't great last year, but I do think he

1277
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 2: beats his ADP. What about for overviured guys or busts, it's.

1278
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: Gotta be Rashad White just because he literally embodies what

1279
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: it means to be a frozen pund running back RB

1280
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: twenty five. So gotta go th White.

1281
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, same for me. I think he's the guy that

1282
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 3: sticks out.

1283
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 2: You know, the quarterbacks are are what they are, not

1284
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 2: expecting much from them, and I think the receivers are

1285
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 2: discounted enough to where they're not I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 3: All right.

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