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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to nineteen, Episode

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Speaker 1: one of Daylies. Like guys, the production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. And it is, of course Monday,

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Speaker 1: January ten. I messed up because it's not it's Monday.

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Speaker 1: It's not the other day. Sorry, because I always hit

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Speaker 1: tomorrow and tomorrow is not that. Oh you're gonna tell

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Speaker 1: us what national day it was last eight past Saturday? Yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 1: so we all know that this past Saturday was National

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Speaker 1: Vision Board Day, National Argyle Day, and National English Coffee Day.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what like we we've yes, I know, I

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Speaker 1: know part in me today is actually National Oysters Rockefeller

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Speaker 1: Day of course, and uh, Save the Eagles Day. Save

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Speaker 1: the Eagles. Yeah, not the NFL team, the band, the band. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien a K. This is the

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Speaker 1: pod that doesn't and we do this zight right into trends.

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Speaker 1: Some people started listen and not knowing what it was,

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Speaker 1: and they'll continue listen and forever just because it is

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Speaker 1: the pod that and I could keep going. That song

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Speaker 1: from The Lamb Chop Show was brought to our attention

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Speaker 1: we were reminded of it by Equipped Smith on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my

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Speaker 1: co host, Mr Miles grag I thought I saw him shopping.

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Speaker 1: I thought I saw him out of light. I think

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Speaker 1: I thought I saw Michael Stipe, but I didn't. It

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Speaker 1: was just some guy who looks like Michael Stipe. Shout

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Speaker 1: out to Fat Andrew on the discourse you and wonderful

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Speaker 1: Stipe's dot doppelganger at Traders Dos and I guess he

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Speaker 1: doesn't even live near me, So it was just a dream,

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Speaker 1: not even close. That was just a dream. Well, Miles,

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Speaker 1: we are thrill fortunate, blessed to be joined in our

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Speaker 1: third seat by two brilliantly talented artists, a documentary filmmaker

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Speaker 1: and a writer actress comedian who have teamed up to

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Speaker 1: make the hit podcast Was I in a Cult? Please

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Speaker 1: welcome Tyler me some and Liz. I accusing Tyler, Hi, guys,

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Speaker 1: we have to sing to I didn't come prepared with

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Speaker 1: a song. I mean, if you'd like, you know, if

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Speaker 1: you have a more of a dancer. Oh okay, we don't.

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Speaker 1: We don't mind that. Come on, start dancing that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got honey in those hips. Yeah, I got a

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Speaker 1: white white man over by with my dance until I

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Speaker 1: draw blood on my lower lips. Trust me, you don't

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Speaker 1: want to see that. What's the I don't think i've

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Speaker 1: heard that white man over by? Oh come on, you

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Speaker 1: know when you Yeah? Yeah, so hard indelible marks in

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Speaker 1: my bottom of it is very cool. It's a cool look.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that we all have wear it. You guys are

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Speaker 1: in the old studio where we used to record daily zygist. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how do you want us to do anything to the

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Speaker 1: seats or do you want us to like just fart

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Speaker 1: in them that we can bless them? There ritual you

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Speaker 1: guys did before, just a deep exasperated side at the

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Speaker 1: reality that we were going to have to comment on

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Speaker 1: every day. But other than that, it still smells of depression.

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Speaker 1: So thanks for leaving that stench. So you guys host

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Speaker 1: create the podcast? Was I in a cult? And I

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Speaker 1: think you know the title gives a sense of the

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Speaker 1: subject matter, but I just wanted to read a quote

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Speaker 1: from a recent episode to give people like a flavor.

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Speaker 1: You guys were talking about a guest who spoiler Alert,

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Speaker 1: was in a cult, was also an actor and Saved

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Speaker 1: by the Bell was dating a power ranger and Tyler.

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Speaker 1: You have Liz referring to that era of television. I

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Speaker 1: was watching He Man and the Masters of the Universe?

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Speaker 1: Did she suck any of them? Which was a great

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Speaker 1: moment and I think gives a good flavor of how

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Speaker 1: some people pick up thanks for finding that one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's just say it's not a completely serious show. It's

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Speaker 1: not completely serious. You guys cover very serious subject matter,

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Speaker 1: but you have a lot of fun doing it and

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Speaker 1: it's a fun show. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah, alright, Well we're

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Speaker 1: going to get to know you guys. Did apparently she

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Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment. First,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna tell the listeners a couple of things we're

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Speaker 1: looking at here. This all seems to end well, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so smoiler alert, it ends just great. Yeah, alright, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: through that sleep well tonight. Or take a look at

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Speaker 1: the films set in the year twenty two, So not

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Speaker 1: future that you guys think really really nailed it? Tyler.

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Speaker 1: You're a filmmaker, I believe, is how it's pronounced. Filmmaker.

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Speaker 1: So you've heard of these things, right, film movies, So

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Speaker 1: all of that plenty more. But first before we get

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Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that is revealing

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Speaker 1: you were saying that you're underrated as Macha, which makes sense, right.

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Speaker 1: doesn't get the clumps out. So you do like the

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Speaker 1: little milk frother is the best way to blend your

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Speaker 1: Macha Tyler, what's something you think is under it? You

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Speaker 1: don't underrate it. It's silly, but sleep. Sleep is vastly underrated,

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Speaker 1: and I think people choose a lot of things over sleep.

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Speaker 1: And as one who obsesses about sleep and has read

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Speaker 1: every book there is about the benefits of sleep, because

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Speaker 1: I don't sleep well and I wish I could sleep better,

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Speaker 1: I just think we are as a society walking around

430
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Speaker 1: as zombies and we're trading Netflix and Instagram for what

431
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: we genuinely need, which is a good night's sleep. M

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Speaker 1: M yeah, I definitely feel that. Like idea of like

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Speaker 1: the just aimless scroll in bed, Yeah, Like you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people have said, like the psychology of

435
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 1: that is like trying to reclaim hours of the day

436
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: that felt like you were giving your attention to something else.

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00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: So it's like a way to kind of recenter. But

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Speaker 1: at the same time, it's just it's the worst thing

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Speaker 1: for you because like to your point, it keeps you

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Speaker 1: from going to sleep. And I've only, like the last

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Speaker 1: seven months, tried to get really disciplined about like creating

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Speaker 1: a proper time to sleep. I'm like sticking to that

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Speaker 1: because I do feel the difference. Yeah, And I think

444
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: there's elements of sleep like who doesn't wait, you guys

445
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 1: wake up at like three in the morning and can't

446
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: go back to sleep. Does that happen to you guys?

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00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: I get I used to get that around like four,

448
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: like it would be like clockwork, like just up, and

449
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm like fuck. And then I started like stretching more

450
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: before bed. I started. The other thing was like I

451
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 1: would drink way too much later in the day, so

452
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: I'd always have to pee in the middle of the night.

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00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: And I realized it's much you know, except sadly my

454
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Speaker 1: partners she's not really into that anymore. But like the

455
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Speaker 1: idea of like really being able to like it also

456
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: went into my hydration where now I'm like, I'm trying

457
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: to get as hydrated as I need to be earlier

458
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: in the day rather than like catching up at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day. And also making like sleeping when

460
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: it's colder has also made it easier for me to sleep.

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00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: So two tips of that. One is you get in

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Speaker 1: bad usually and then you read or you scroll through

463
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Speaker 1: Instagram or whatever. But before you go to bed, pee

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Speaker 1: one more time. And you hate it because you're soft

465
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: and you're in your bed and you don't want to

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00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: get out again, go one more time. That helps, Kylie.

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Speaker 1: You also have to get rid of blue screens. Blue screens, yeah,

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00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: I don't, at least at least an hour before bed.

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00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: But but there's one thing that is about like waking

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Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night and having researched

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Speaker 1: this is called second sleep. Because we as humans, for

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Speaker 1: most of our evolution, we didn't you know, we we

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Speaker 1: didn't have lights. So you went to bed when it

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Speaker 1: was dark and you woke up when it was light.

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Speaker 1: And so what human beings essentially did is they would

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Speaker 1: wake up late in the middle of the night to

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Speaker 1: three in the morning because you'd go to bed at

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Speaker 1: five because you were sleeping in a cave, you know,

479
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Speaker 1: and it was winter where you're sleeping in a tepee

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00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: or whatever it may be. And researchers put people in

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Speaker 1: a room without clocks and without windows, and they found

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Speaker 1: that they would wake up at two or three in

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Speaker 1: the morning, and it was second sleep, because that's what

484
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: humans did. They'd wake up two in the morning, they'd

485
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Speaker 1: stoke the fire, they'd have sex, they do whatever, and

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Speaker 1: then they go back to sleep. So it I've done,

487
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: and this may not be the best advice for everyone,

488
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Speaker 1: is when you do wake up at two in the

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Speaker 1: morning or three in the morning, own it, get up

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Speaker 1: and do something. In fact, studies have shown that when

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Speaker 1: you are in that state, a dream like state, you're

492
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: actually incredibly creative. Your brain is still kind of dreaming

493
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: and still not in the left brain or the right brain.

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Speaker 1: So if you're a creative person, use it. Get up right, read,

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00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: come up with ideas, then go back to bed. Don't

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Speaker 1: stay up too late. But I've actually been embracing that

497
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: and it's actually helped me both as to get sleep

498
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: and also creatively nice. Yeah, my dad used to do

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Speaker 1: that because you would wake up pretty like in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the night too, and I feel like a

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00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: thing I've also inherited from him, but yeah, that's when

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00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: he would I would always remember just him getting up

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00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: and like starting to write or you know, work on

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00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: his art or something like that. So I just like

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00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: being in bed, though there's something about getting out. I'm like,

506
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: then I've lost but yeah, it's getting better. It's getting better.

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Speaker 1: I think that happened of when I do, when I

508
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: have that waking up like the I think that's where

509
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: the like witching hour came from. Is like the time

510
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: that everybody woke up in the middle of the night.

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Speaker 1: But I always want to eat something. I'm always like

512
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: so hungry when I wake up in the middle of

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00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: the night. Yeah, I always hungry. Bear. That was adorable,

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00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling me. Alright, Well, I feel like we've

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00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: learned a lot about you guys. We've learned a lot

516
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: in general. Let's make ourselves a little bit dumber by

517
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: talking about Ted Cruise because we've I mean, this man

518
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:39,479
Speaker 1: is the king of the you turn, the king of spinelessness,

519
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: and he put on a real display in the past

520
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: couple of days or at the end of last week,

521
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, the King of capitulation has has come

522
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: to take his throne from Mark Meadows. I think that

523
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: was the last one we saw. That was of note

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00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: where he's like my book says Trump knew everything, tore

525
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: like that's not true, and he came on he's like, yeah,

526
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm lying so to reach Trump and you're like, holy ship, dude,

527
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: he's committed this to a book and you're already on

528
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: your saying it's nonsense. Okay, fine at fake news. Yeah,

529
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: your book is fake news. Well, being the way there,

530
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: that's not what I said exactly anyway. So Ted Cruise

531
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: has also found himself in the same place he fucked

532
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: up royally because he described the terrorist attack on January

533
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: six as a terrorist attack and Tucker Carlson lost his

534
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: ship that night when like those words came out because

535
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: he was labeled Ted Cruise like this live trader sort

536
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: of thing. And so this led Ted to come on

537
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: Tucker's show and do you know, do his like public

538
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: maya culpa, and he was basically just saying, like, you know,

539
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: torture me, daddy when I come on the air and

540
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: they make it right, and he basically Tucker Carlson was

541
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: like on his like Hans Landa, like Christoph Faltse's character

542
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: and inglorious bastards. That was like the way he starts

543
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: off this appearance with Ted Cruz, and I'm going to

544
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: play it because it's just it's something. It's truly something

545
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: else to watch. Ted Cruz have to eat his own

546
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: hat and soul. So I guess what I mean. There

547
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: are a lot of dumb people in the Congress. You're

548
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: not one of them. I think it's smarter than I am. Uh.

549
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: And you never use words carelessly. Um, and yet you

550
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: called this a terror attack when by no definition was

551
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: it a terror attack. That's a lie. You told that

552
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: lie on purpose, and I'm wondering why you did. Well. Tucker,

553
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: thank you for having me on when you aired your

554
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: episode last night. I sent you a tech shortly thereafter

555
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: and said, listen, I'd like to go on because the

556
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: way I phrase things yesterday it was sloppy and it

557
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: was frankly dumb. And I don't buy that. Who wow,

558
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: I don't buy that. For Look, I've known you a

559
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: long time since before you went to the Senate. You're

560
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: Supreme Court contender. You take words as seriously as any

561
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: man who's ever served in the Senate. And every word

562
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: you repeated that phrase, I do not believe that you

563
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: use accidentally, and don't it's so Tucker as at. So

564
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: that's just the taste right where he started off by going,

565
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: You're not a fucking idiot right, I know that you're

566
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: not an idiot, so why the funk would you say

567
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: something so absurd? And he goes on like every time

568
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: Ted Cruise tas be like, well what I meant was this?

569
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: Like I don't believe you you meant it? Like he

570
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: was really putting him to the sword to make matters worse, right,

571
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: Ted Cruiz, He's proven himself to not stand up to anything,

572
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: like Evenen Trump like completely ripped his wife on TV,

573
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: like he was like, thank you. And in this instance,

574
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: he comes on, gets owned by Tucker Carlson and then

575
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: he posted the clip to his own fucking YouTube channel

576
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: because that's how like serious he was about getting the

577
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: messaging out that he's like, I didn't I'm sorry for

578
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: speaking against the sacred words of this group we are in,

579
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: which makes which brings us to this idea of what

580
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: like this you know, Trump or cult of personality around

581
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: Trump has become, and how it's just gotten gaining more

582
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: and more momentum. We're seeing people who are holding office

583
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: even coming on and be like I'm dumb, I'm sorry

584
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: for saying that I am. I am so ignorant. I

585
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: should go now. I'm just curious from you know, Tyler

586
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: and Liz like your perspective, this feels very much like

587
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: what you see right, you speak the truth, you disrupt

588
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: the group's cognitive dissonance, and then you get the fucking horns.

589
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: It's is it is this pretty similar to like normal

590
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: sort of cult behavior, normal could behavior, not normal life,

591
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: but yes, no normal cult behavior for sure, behavior like standard, standard,

592
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: standards standard. Well, even in that two seconds that we

593
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: just heard, there's like two moments of gas lighting right

594
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: out the gate and public humiliation, which is a huge

595
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: thing in cults, putting you on the stand, putting you

596
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: in the hot seat, and then making you look at

597
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: something quote unquote, and then totally putting you on blast

598
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: and getting the followers the rest of the people in

599
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: the room, which in this case is everybody that's watching

600
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: that a news program, to go shame on you, bad boy.

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00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: So even in that thirty seconds you just showed, was

602
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: there was a ton of cultic behavior going on. Yeah,

603
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: Like I don't know the way we kind of see

604
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: this whole thing like evolve, you know, looking at at

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00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: it as a cult. Right, there's like this new story

606
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: that's come out where like Stephanie Grisham, the former like

607
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: Price secretary and a few other Trumpers who were in

608
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: the administration, like fifteen of them were saying, like they're

609
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: getting together to figure out how to take Trump down.

610
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's just for their own you know,

611
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: to soothe themselves so they can sleep at night, or

612
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: if it's serious. And Stephanie Grisham is saying, like, we're

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00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: looking to do things where we can message to Trump

614
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: supporters so they can fully understand what Trump stands for

615
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: and what his goals are. She's talking about going on

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00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: like a speaking tour to like very heavily like districts

617
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: with heavy Trump support, to try and talk to people

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00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: to explain things. Good luck. That doesn't seem like a

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00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 1: viable tact. Good luck, That's all I have to say.

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00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: Good luck, because you can't. You can't do that. You're

621
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: what the sad thing about when people are in in

622
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: cults is once they're the brainwashing has taken ignited and

623
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: the indoctrination has ignited, you can't speak rationally to them.

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00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how many facts you lay out and go.

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00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: You know, this thing he said was completely you know,

626
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: it was a complete lie and completely irrational. And here

627
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: are fifteen to five hundred thousand things to back up

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00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: the truth. It doesn't matter because the justification in the

629
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: manipulation of whatever the law is being spewed by the

630
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: cult leader is so strong that they're always going to

631
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: find a way to justify it. Like look at Doomsday,

632
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: all the doomsday cults that happened. Doomsday never happens, but

633
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: yet these people will stay in the cult after that

634
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: because the goal post moves and there's some stupid, right,

635
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: stupid sounding explanation for it from the outsiders, but internally

636
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, I guess it was our fault. Yeah,

637
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 1: we weren't. We weren't right with the blank um right.

638
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,959
Speaker 1: So it's really hard that tactic sadly is there. Really

639
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: it's like it sounds like what they say like scientology

640
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: or like squirrels, or like people who used to be

641
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: scientologists who then like want to start ship like outside

642
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: of it. And it seems like people who even if

643
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,959
Speaker 1: they were part of the end group, once they leave,

644
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: there's no you're like your your identity is set in

645
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: the eyes of the people that are still followers, Like

646
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: it's just like, oh, you're like you have I have

647
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: nothing to say to you because you're not even one

648
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: of us. And that's one of the main tactics of

649
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: cults is too when you leave and people say, what

650
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: is a cult versus a church or whatever, maybe typically

651
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: what it is is amongst the many things, one of

652
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: them is when you leave that said group, the cult

653
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: cut you off. You're no longer believing. We don't talk

654
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: to you, we don't associate with you, with you. You know,

655
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: It's not like that with most groups. And I do

656
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: think the Republican Party, the modern day Republican Party, the

657
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: extremists of it especially, has that same tactic. The other side,

658
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 1: they're evil, they're wrong, We're elite, which is cult tactic

659
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: number one. We are chosen, we are the best. We

660
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: are going to heaven. We are the only ones who

661
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: have the keys to the kingdom. And everyone else is wrong,

662
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: and everyone else and their messages are wrong, and don't

663
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: watch them, don't read them, don't listen to them, because

664
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: they are wrong. And not only are they wrong, but

665
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: what they're sending you is harmful. And I think that's

666
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: very common. We had a we had a guest on

667
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: one of our episodes not too long ago, Yanya Lullich

668
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: and she's a cult expert, and she talked about modern

669
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: day cults, and she said that, um, you know, it

670
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: used to be that cults were a place you'd go

671
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: to a commune, you'd go to a church, you you

672
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: see the leader, she said, modern day, especially exacerbated by

673
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: the pandemic, modern day cults, people don't ever need to

674
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: see each other. They're one of them can be in

675
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: Kansas and another one can be in Colorado, and there's

676
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: no leader. There's no ideology, the ideology as the leader rather,

677
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: and so they kind of can glom onto anything. And

678
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: that's what I think we're seeing nowadays. Um or the

679
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: leader can be just a letter in the alphabet right

680
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: with no face and no name. But I do feel, yeah,

681
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: when it comes to Q, I am wondering, like how

682
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: long it will take for Trump to just openly kind

683
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 1: of identify as the leader, because I do think that

684
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: in the time since he's been in office, like the

685
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: lesson he's learned or seems to have learned over and

686
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: over again is like anybody who was like advising him

687
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: to pump the brakes on anything was wrong, got the boot.

688
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: You can you can back channel this from the day

689
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: he got inaugurated that I don't I can't even remember

690
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: these people's names because they're so far from our lexicon now.

691
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: But anybody that in the beginning, you can see it

692
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: right away, one person you know, has one opinion against

693
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: what he was saying, and fired, next day, fired, next day, fired,

694
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: and thank you. Yeah, and that's why you have the

695
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: Ted Cruises left today who are just paralyzed by fear,

696
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: like I don't want to go away, I don't want

697
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: I want to I want to stay in the cool kids.

698
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: I want to be with the cool kids. And they'll backtrack,

699
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: they won't. Ted Cruise is not coming up with his

700
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: own opinions, his own rational thought. He did for a moment,

701
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: and then you saw what happened, right, and then he

702
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: had to perform for the group to say I haven't

703
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: lost my way. I'm sorry, I'm deeply sorry. I was

704
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: stupid in that moment, as even said, like it was

705
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: frank dumb. Right. That's why, Yeah, And that's why that

706
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: appearance was so important, right, is because the January six,

707
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: like the the way that the mainstream media greeted it

708
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, this is going to be a thing

709
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: that scares everybody, and makes them back away, and instead

710
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: it's been used to just normalize that behavior more and

711
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: more and like edge people to the cult. That's a

712
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: great on, that's a great way to put it. The

713
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: normalization of really not okay behavior is a huge right, well,

714
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: because it's been an inversion, right because actually January six

715
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: was the righteous people doing the correct thing while the

716
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: federal government was trans were the transgressors in that moment.

717
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: So they've completely re art reformatted it, re contextualized it

718
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: to say no, we were that was the morally correct

719
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: thing to do and were, and that seems to be

720
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: the message that keeps getting reinforced. So right when you

721
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: have people come out and be like it's terrorist because

722
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: Ted Cruz made he tried to make a point. He's like, well,

723
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: I don't think assaulting police officers is something that we

724
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: should like should happen. That's bad, right, those people should

725
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: go to jail and tuckers of course, but are they terrorists?

726
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: And then it's like whoa, here we go to semantic

727
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: I mean it would seem you would you would think

728
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: that Tucker as a conservative talking ahead. So one other

729
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: question that I just want to get you guys thoughts

730
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: on is just like in the broad scope of American cults,

731
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: I think, I think cult kind of evokes in people's

732
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: minds like Jonestown and Waco and Heaven's Gate. But like

733
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: I think what we're dealing with here could have more

734
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: in common with like the Taiping Rebellion and like Nazi

735
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: Germany than those things, Like just in terms of the

736
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: kind of blurring of the line between political party and cult.

737
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: Like what how do you guys think about like those

738
00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: those historic examples as as cult, I mean, dictator use

739
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: cult like tactics throughout history. Um, we're the best country,

740
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: We're number one. We're the only ones that are good.

741
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: Block everyone else out. And there's also in many cults,

742
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: especially Christian based cults, or it's a strong worrying factor,

743
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: pick up your sword, you know, fight to get into heaven.

744
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: There's a lot of cults that actually have that. We

745
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: are soldiers. So this January six thing was we are soldiers.

746
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: We are fighting for this cult that we believe is right.

747
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: A lot of violence is actually Doomsday violence and blood

748
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: and going to hell and fire, a lot of violences

749
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: and set in cults and the same thing with dictators

750
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: throughout history. It's just it's the same kind of tactics,

751
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: and I think Trump was doing the same thing using

752
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: those same dictator slash cult leader tactics, which usually nine

753
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: times out of ten are ego just very egocentric individuals.

754
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: And I don't care if sociopathy, I don't care if

755
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: you support Trump or not. You can't deny that the

756
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: guy has an ego. He has a massive ego and

757
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: he you know, most cult leaders have a strong ego, right, Yeah,

758
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say that there there are

759
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: political cults. There are cults that exist within political parties,

760
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: even in America, to try to say it's a cult

761
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: of person, like, let's just call it what it is, right, Like,

762
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: I think people try to get around the word cult

763
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: instead of understanding the psychology of cult. Once you understand that,

764
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: you can see it very clearly in all areas, especially politics.

765
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: And I think the difference between a political party and

766
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: a cult is the lead. It's always it goes all

767
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: goes back to the leader, right, So who's leading that

768
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: party and how are they leading it? Right? Yeah, I

769
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: mean we'll still probably endorse Trump as a podcast, but yeah, yeah,

770
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: he's I mean, we don't want to we want to

771
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 1: be at the cool kids table. Yeah, come on, you know, guys, Rocks.

772
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: You know the thing about people who are in cults,

773
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: and you know, we talked about cults and what they are,

774
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: and they're all over the place. And sometimes they can

775
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: be churches, sometimes they can be religion, sometimes they can

776
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: be political. But by and large, and I'll even put

777
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: Q into this, in some aspects, people who joined cults

778
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: are idealistic in many options. They they want to go

779
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: to heaven, they want to better themselves, they want to

780
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: lose weight, they want to live on a commune and

781
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: grow wheat. They want to make America great again, right,

782
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: and they do. They genuinely believe they're trying to make

783
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: America great again. And and so this idealism is actually

784
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: what leads people into this, and cult leaders use that. Yeah,

785
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: they prey on that. You know. It's it's it's that,

786
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: or it's there's something in their life that isn't working.

787
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: And then somebody comes along and goes, I see it.

788
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: I've got the solution to everything you've ever thought was wrong.

789
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: And I know you've known something was wrong. That's how

790
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: I know what I'm going to tell you is going

791
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: to really resonate. So listen up. It's usually them, it's

792
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: someone else. It's the it's the brown skin person or

793
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: the women, or the liberals or someone else or you know,

794
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: the people that you aren't like that are making problems

795
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: for you. Um, but I have the answers. That's a

796
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: cult tactic one and want I alone have the answers.

797
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: I alone can save you. I am the leader that

798
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 1: can take you to heaven, or you can lose weight,

799
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: or you can be a better actor, or you can

800
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: do you know whatever. Cult leaders you know profess and

801
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: these idealisms, these idealistic people who are a lot of

802
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: times just vulnerable sign on and want to be told.

803
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: We do want to be told. We do want to

804
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: listen to somebody who tells us what to do and

805
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: what to believe. By and large, Yeah, is like when

806
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: you kind of look at sort of the you know America,

807
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: like our you know, the cults that are popping up

808
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: in America, especially like it relates to like right wing extremism,

809
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: do you see any hope for d pro gramming or

810
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: for whatever to happen or what do you think how

811
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: do you think this plays out? Because I think from

812
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: our perspective, like it looks like they're all in on

813
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: complete in total destruction of the country without maybe articulating that.

814
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, the sad the sad part about that, in

815
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: my opinion, is that it's not like these extreme cults

816
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: haven't existed for years. Unfortunately, they've because of you know,

817
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: a certain human have been brought into the mainstream now

818
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: and so we're just faced with it a lot more.

819
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, when because of that, they've recruited, you know,

820
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: a lot more Americans and their base has grown, and

821
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 1: that's what we're up against. And not to be Debbie Downer,

822
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: but it's it's gonna be a while for these people

823
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: to de program. It's not going to be easy. There's

824
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: an element of many times among cults that want the doomsday.

825
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: They want that they're looking forward to it because we're right,

826
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: we're we're going to go to heaven. The rest of

827
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: the world is going to be burned, and we're going

828
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: to be right, we're saved or not. And I think

829
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: there's still an element in extreme measures of the Republican

830
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: Party that want that. I think one thing that has

831
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: helped and hurt and there are more cults today people

832
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: think cults were in the seventies, you know, moonees and airports,

833
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: but there are more cults today than ever because of

834
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: the Internet. The Internet is a huge recruitment breeding ground

835
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: and it's super can I say effort, it's super fucking

836
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 1: dangerous because you know, we're getting false information left and right.

837
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: And you get a doctor to tell you I'm a

838
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 1: doctor and so listen to me, and then somebody goes, well,

839
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: the doctor said that, and then all of a sudden

840
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: they're off to the races, and so you're not handing

841
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: out mimiograph tracks at airports, you know where you're reaching

842
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: millions of people. I feel like the seventies gets the

843
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: cult rep because a lot of that those cults were

844
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: like associated with like left wing politics, and that's like

845
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: something that Americans are, the American kind of shared consciousness

846
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: is allergic to and so like that that stands out.

847
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: But then when the cults are like focused on like

848
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: white male domination, like they're kind of okay with it

849
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: or because of that left left peace, love, we love

850
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: each other, children of love, let's all you know. I mean.

851
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: Jonestown started as a wonderful endeavor, a church that actually

852
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: embraced black people and to their flock. It just got

853
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: a little you know, went a little off course, got

854
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: a little suicidal a little bit. Yeah, and that was all.

855
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: But that was, you know, just his ego just got away.

856
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: And that's what happens. Col Leaders surround themselves with people

857
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: and yes man, and they get further and further away

858
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: from the real world and reality you're actually becoming esmen.

859
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: But I don't want to get too deep into how

860
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: the manipulation and infination, right, but that was also you know,

861
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: a lot of that is also was a reaction to something, right,

862
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: that was a reaction to Vietnam and war and violence,

863
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: and so all these cults presented is free, free love

864
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: were the opposite of that, and there was a whole

865
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: community of humans going, that's what I want. And that's

866
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: sort of what's happening now right on the flip side

867
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: to some extent. Yeah, yeah, if if, if they don't

868
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: completely control they county will be like how we people

869
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: talk about like old hippies in the neighborhood. It's like

870
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: who lives up there's like these old hippies there, and

871
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 1: then like fifty years like who are those like these

872
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: old people? Yeah, wonderful. Yeah that if we can, that's

873
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: like our best. We'll get there. I mean I do

874
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: think we'll get there. It's it's going to happen. The

875
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: good the silver lining with all cults is they eventually destruct,

876
00:49:55,520 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: whether the leader dies or something happens, They eventually you destruct.

877
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: It just takes a while sometimes. I mean what it

878
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: comes down to is a lot of times they just

879
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: keep saying and projecting and and saying this is going

880
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: to happen, and this is gonna happen in Doomsday is

881
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: gonna happen and all these things, and they just they

882
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: just don't. They don't happen. And if you see that

883
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: with Q, I mean their projections, their predictions there one

884
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 1: like oh for eighty on their projections. So eventually they're

885
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: just gonna go other people, right you would think so

886
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: you would think it's some They shed some people, but

887
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: not like at a rate that you would expect. Because

888
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 1: when I look at like some of those telegram channels

889
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: and you hear people being like, well, what the fun like,

890
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: aren't are we getting sucked over? Like? Are we getting duped? Good?

891
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: Even know any better? Right? Right? Right? I was the

892
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: sucker right kind of ruined my life for this, but like,

893
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: that's why I brought up the examples of mass political

894
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,959
Speaker 1: movements that operated like cults, like the Typing Rebellion, which

895
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: is like the largest, the deadliest civil war in human history,

896
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: was like based around a guy who claimed he was

897
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: Jesus's brother reincarnated, and you know, got twenty million people killed.

898
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: And Nazi Germany I think most people are familiar with,

899
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: but well, no, this is America. Actually I don't think

900
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: many people. Yeah, allegedly, I feel like a lot of

901
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: Americans would happen with that. Let's uh, let's take a

902
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be back to talk about what

903
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: movies foresaw in the air two and we're back, and

904
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: they're a handful of movies, sci fi movies from the

905
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: nineties and before that saw the year two going awry

906
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: in very specific ways that we we wanted to look at.

907
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: Our writer jam Nap kind of gave us a canvassing

908
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: of the movies that took place at the point where two.

909
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: I love this because this this felt like a common

910
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: year in movies, like two felt like it like now

911
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: we're not we're not hack. We're thinking a little bit

912
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: more about this. Yeah, so one that I definitely rented

913
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: when I was a teenager was No Escape starring Ray Liotta,

914
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: about a penal colony run by a corporation. You know,

915
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: it's it seems to have foresaw private prisons, even though

916
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: like I guess they already existed back then, but they

917
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: really grew from that point to you know, very recently

918
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: when they became sort of outlaw. But I think No

919
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: Escape was the one where they had the necklaces. The

920
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 1: major head explode is that, I think, so yeah, And

921
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: that was definitely like I don't know if it's like

922
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: half Australia, because like, whoa, what I feels like a

923
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: penal colony. It's like an island where these dudes go

924
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: and they kill each other. I remember being like watching

925
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: the movie and that was like the first time I noticed,

926
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 1: like there were no women in a movie. I was like, whoa,

927
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: there's only guys in this movie. Like I remember having

928
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: this scene was like most of the time I'm seeing

929
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: things sad. At least showed that were women in it.

930
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: But that was like, a, I don't know, that's that's

931
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: when I became a feminist. But when I when I

932
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: made that realization, I had this confused with something a

933
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: different movie. So I have not seen No Escape. Oh

934
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: you haven't, you'd love it. Yeah, it sounds like it.

935
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: I mean it was so it was really my favorite

936
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: action star. So it does sound dude, had Ernie Hudson,

937
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: I remember Johnny Drama like a young Kevin Dillon. Damn. Yeah,

938
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a it's a very thin like

939
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: it's a movie that does not hold up at all,

940
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: like when you start watching it again. There's a straight

941
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: to video Mark Hamill vehicle called Time Runner about a

942
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: guy from the future sent back to stop a invasion

943
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 1: of alien shape shifters and twenty two who disguise themselves

944
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: as humans. So it's like they saw Titanic and body

945
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: Snatchers and we're like, okay, what if Now wait listen

946
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: to me for a second here. But the tagline was

947
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: literally a new kind of Terminator in tones the movie

948
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: trailer over a theme that is a sound of like

949
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: rip off of the Terminator. In case that wasn't clear

950
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: to you, I love a blatant rip off, like to

951
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: be like, I don't know, man, enough people might get

952
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: duped by this. I think it's the other film. They

953
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: think they're renting, Like when I see like there's like

954
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: a fast and furious rip off that was like Fury Drivers,

955
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 1: and like the subtitle was like they're furious and fast

956
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, okay, they're fastly furious. Probably the

957
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: most popular of all is the first Purge movie was

958
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: set in twenty two, so it was yeah, see that, Okay,

959
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: they'll bo and maybe there. Yeah, just I I long

960
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: for the times when our our projections of this era

961
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: were like slightly more shiny and fun, like sant Angels

962
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: and Demolition Man. That's always what year was sant Angelo?

963
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: What you was? Demolition Man? I feel like that one.

964
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 1: I think it's four or something like that. Okay, yeah,

965
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: we'll I'll celebrate that time. Yeah, thank you, Yeah exactly. Well,

966
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: there's there's been a few write ups about like, well

967
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: where are we now in San Angeles? Like two, we

968
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: got a little bit, we got some time until the

969
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 1: Franco bell I'm looking at you. I'm watching you guys

970
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: making moves. You haven't ten years to win the franchise

971
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: Wars and then uh Soiling Green, the seventies three Charlton

972
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: Heston movie about It's just a hellish future, there's overpopulation,

973
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: there's inequality. Have you guys heard about this stuff? Remember

974
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: when people thought we'd have a problem with inequality that

975
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: I've seen it on a pumper sticker. Yeah. And then

976
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: there's one corporation that rules them all, not named Amazon,

977
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: but does produce a food stuff called soilent that is

978
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: revealed at the end is made of people. Spoiler, it's

979
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: not Macha, but it's pretty good. It does explicitly pinpoint

980
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: climate change as one of our major problems. Before that was,

981
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 1: you know, widely seen as like bring about the end times.

982
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: There's a ton of income inequality and surging homelessness. But

983
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, we haven't started eating each other. I feel

984
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: like that one you're giving people too much of an

985
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: imagination the Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that brings the cult full circle.

986
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: You know, there were a publicans are thinking maybe if

987
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 1: we eat the democrats, I mean, yeah, I eat the rich,

988
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 1: completely goes the other way, Eat the lips you've got

989
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: good time eat. I mean. The main thing is that

990
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: it just isn't profitable, Like it doesn't make sense as

991
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: a model, and like that's the reason it doesn't make

992
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: sense is like humans are like you can find other

993
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: things to serve two people as soilent, which is in

994
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: fact something that somebody has done. There is a a

995
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: company called Soilent, and some of their products are literally green,

996
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: but they are chocolate chip flavored. I have not had it,

997
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: and it's fucking It feels like you're in like a

998
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: space prison. Yeah. Yeah, well that's what they feed you,

999
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's because the whole thing,

1000
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: like I remember being marketed is like, no, man, people

1001
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: don't got time to eat. They just need to drink this,

1002
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: a couple of these bottles and you've got all your

1003
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: fucking nutrients that you need. And remember because that was

1004
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: like the whole like work ourselves. I mean we're still

1005
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: sort of in that mentality of working yourself to death,

1006
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: so nobody has time to breathe or eat. But I'm

1007
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: optimizing the eating process, right, I remember trying and be

1008
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: like this is so fucking just just tastes like grand

1009
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: like paste with like a hint of vanilla. Right. Do

1010
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: you guys have any movies that when you look outside

1011
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: at the direction the world is headed, that you feel

1012
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: like might have been, whether they are said in the

1013
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: future or not, that you feel like it might have

1014
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: been onto something, you know. I think one that was

1015
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: way ahead of its time, and it's gotten a lot

1016
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: more attention of late as Network The Sydney in that

1017
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: film written by Patty Chaievsky in NIX, which well in

1018
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: advance predicted the entertainment is um of news but also

1019
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: reality television and um, you know, putting odd screaming profits

1020
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: on the airwaves. To an opinionize, I think that film,

1021
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: which A is unamazed, amazing movie if you haven't seen it,

1022
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: and if you have seen it, it's even better on

1023
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: the second or in my case, like the tenth viewing

1024
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: every single year I watched that film. I absolutely love it.

1025
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: That one I think really saw our future as media

1026
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: and content and television. Are we in the matrix? Mmm?

1027
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: I think that's an important question to ask. I. I

1028
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: tried jumping over a garbage can yesterday and I tripped

1029
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: over and busting my ask So I don't. I certainly

1030
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: haven't developed in my matrix skills, but doesn't mean I'm

1031
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: not trying. I like The Running Man. We're pretty close

1032
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: like the Running Man type of stuff too. It's like, yeah, man,

1033
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: get prisoners to fucking die and we'll like watch it

1034
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: on TV because right now it's already being used as like,

1035
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: you know, slave labor. So like when's the next Like

1036
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: when are they going to have like ultimate fighting when

1037
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: like logan Paul fights like three inmates or something, but

1038
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: he gets like a chainsaw. I feel like they were

1039
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: the spectacle of like violent conflict is like it's it's

1040
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: slowly being more commodified in weird ways. Not that I

1041
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: think we'll get precisely there, but I mean that film

1042
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: was set between twenty seventeen the running, so I'm going

1043
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: to really up the intellectual level with this one. But

1044
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: the Jetsons, man, we are about to become the Jetsons,

1045
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: like we're gonna fly through sky to get to work eventually. Yeah,

1046
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: I think I was still a little late on the

1047
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: jets and so unfortunately, I don't know. I mean they've

1048
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: got that, They've got that taxi, that that helicopter taxi

1049
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: system going on, and that they had a lot of

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Speaker 1: robots in that too. They had the wise cracking We're

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Speaker 1: far from her, yes, not too far. I might not

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Speaker 1: do that far. I think we're aheaded for the flint Stones.

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Speaker 1: Blew your minds, didn't that? Guys? I've always wanted to

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Speaker 1: exercise when I drive so right exactly and have feet

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Speaker 1: so callous that you couldn't even imagine what they feel

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Speaker 1: like on the bottoms. Well, guys, it's been such a

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Speaker 1: pleasure having you on the show. Where can people first

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Speaker 1: of all hear you and also follow you and read

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Speaker 1: you and all that stuff? Yeah, well where you know?

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Speaker 1: We do a podcast called Wasn't Occult and it is

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Speaker 1: a same network as you, guys. It is a documentary

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Speaker 1: style podcast that features individuals who have left We're in

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Speaker 1: and left cults and Liz and I, you know, we

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Speaker 1: talked to these individuals. Um it's very documentary, it's very

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Speaker 1: stylized with archival and music. But then listen, I put

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Speaker 1: a little levity in it every once in a while

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Speaker 1: because otherwise it would be forty five minutes of suicide

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Speaker 1: and abuse and brainwashing and neglect and confinement. But the

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Speaker 1: show is up. It's uplifting. It's meant to be helpful

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Speaker 1: and inspiring and to show how resilient we are as

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Speaker 1: humans and all the things we can overcome. We don't

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Speaker 1: have to live in our trauma. Right, And if Jack

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Speaker 1: pointed out, you know how you keep it light talking

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Speaker 1: about people fucked he man right exactly, So it's not

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Speaker 1: all gloom. I'm sorry. I thought that would appeal to

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Speaker 1: our audience. Yeah, it's a great line. It's a great

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Speaker 1: it was That's a great episode. It's a crazy about

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Speaker 1: a woman, a cult in which Liz actually was in

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Speaker 1: an acting cult. Young actors who come to Hollywood and

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Speaker 1: with dreams of being an actor and some crazy acting

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Speaker 1: teacher became a cult leader. Yeah, a self help guru. Um.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, So you can find our show wherever you

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Speaker 1: get your podcasts, it's was I in a Cult? And

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Speaker 1: you can also follow us on Instagram because we are

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Speaker 1: aspiring colleader as ourselves, and we wanted as many followers

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Speaker 1: as we can get. So our handle is at was

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Speaker 1: I in a Cult? Tyler is at Tyler Mesom. Personally,

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Speaker 1: I'm at the Ayacuzi. That's like Jacuzzi with an eye,

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Speaker 1: and uh, find us, talk to us, us, reach out

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Speaker 1: to us if if you have, if you have your

1091
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Speaker 1: own cult experience, we that's where we get all of

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Speaker 1: our amazing guests. So reach out. We'd love to hear

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Speaker 1: from anybody. Is there a tweet or some of the

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Speaker 1: work of social media you've been enjoying. You know, I

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Speaker 1: watched I'm Gonna Last night, I watched something that that

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Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert did a bore Rent, which is just amazing

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Speaker 1: parody of Rent three sixty five thousand minutes about the

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Speaker 1: January six Insurrection, which just launched last night. It's it's genius.

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Speaker 1: Oh nice, I um, my friend just sent me this.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this episode is like of this week.

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Speaker 1: But Jordan Clapper's anti vax video he goes in interviews. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he goes and interviews all the spiritual anti vaxers here

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, and it tickles my little heart when

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Speaker 1: he's like and she's like, well, I usually like I

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Speaker 1: just listen to the earth and the stars. And I

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Speaker 1: actually was talking to my cat and and he goes,

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Speaker 1: do you often get metal medical advice from a cat?

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Speaker 1: And it's fantastic if you want to go see how

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Speaker 1: dumb Los Angeles people are? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. The Woo

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Speaker 1: Woo anti vax ground is like them. And she's like,

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Speaker 1: I just don't think you're getting it. I must go.

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Speaker 1: And he's like, okay, well, okay, let us know what

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Speaker 1: your cat tells tells you about Fuona right miles where

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Speaker 1: you can people find you. What's a tweet you've been

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Speaker 1: enjoying the find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles

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Speaker 1: of Gray and also if you like ninety Day Fiance,

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Speaker 1: I waste my breath on that other show four twenty

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Speaker 1: Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandro just getting high talking about

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Speaker 1: ninety day. Some tweets at like, first one is from

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Speaker 1: Caleb here and at Caleb says things tweeted cigarettes don't

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Speaker 1: even get you high right, like they're literally just for cancer,

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Speaker 1: I think. Take Another one is from Jared Wiselman at

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Speaker 1: Jared says, you know, Britney Spears posted some pictures where

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Speaker 1: she was like nude but like covering herself up with emojis,

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Speaker 1: and people like, what is she doing? And like on

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Speaker 1: all this backlash, Jared tweeted, Britney Spears being able to

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Speaker 1: do whatever the hell she wants was the entire point

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Speaker 1: of this, Just reminding people but outrage. Yeah. I also

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Speaker 1: had the Caleb tweet. I also liked one from Ali

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Speaker 1: make tweet tweeted covid sucks. I missed the days when

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Speaker 1: you could travel. A year ago, I was in d

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Speaker 1: C with some friends I met online touring a Government building. No.

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Speaker 1: Garfinkel tweeted, can't believe I pity the full is Mr

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Speaker 1: t and not Shakespeare. And finally fit alias fit Airlias,

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair. Lasdairliens tweeted met an old guy

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Speaker 1: with no bank account. When I asked him why he

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Speaker 1: didn't have one, he said, I just never out into

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Speaker 1: that ship. Wow, legend. Do you can find me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien you can find us on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at daily Zeitgeys. Were at the Daily Zygeys on Instagram, Facebook,

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Speaker 1: famp page, and a website Daily zeitgeis dot com. Whey

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Speaker 1: post our episodes and our foot Nope, we link off

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Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.

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Speaker 1: And sorry, I've been trying to stifle laugh because I

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Speaker 1: also saw one that I liked from from January six that,

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, I just have to read it to you.

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Speaker 1: Dan she Hand tweeted one year ago today democracy got

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Speaker 1: its heck and Snoop booped just made me laugh. Really,

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Speaker 1: Oh man, all right, Miles, what song? Let's go Let's

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Speaker 1: go out on a track a cover. Let's just everybody

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Speaker 1: knows Barry Whites I'm Gonna Love You just a Little

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Speaker 1: More Baby sampled a lot, but this version from Kelly

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Speaker 1: Patterson is just it's so it's like lighter because it's

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Speaker 1: not as like, yeah, I'm horn you and very white.

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Speaker 1: It's got just uplifting the instrumental, still honoring the same instrumental,

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Speaker 1: but it's just a little more lighter, little more disco.

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Speaker 1: So this is I'm Gonna Love You just a Little

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Speaker 1: More Baby by Kelly Patterson. So go find that, get

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Speaker 1: your vibes up on this Monday. Oh right, Well, the

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Speaker 1: Daily Zey guys the production of My Heart Radio. For

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Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen your favorite shows. That's

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Speaker 1: gonna do it for us this morning, when we're back

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Speaker 1: this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to y'all then. By Spike