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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight

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Speaker 2: Fire for Thursday, November seventh. Oh, we had a good

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Speaker 2: night in sports last night.

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Speaker 1: How about it?

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Speaker 2: Sports are back? Thank you very much, my gosh, much

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Speaker 2: needed sports back in our lives. We had a little

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Speaker 2: warrior Celtics. How about that? The old Tatum versus curve

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Speaker 2: from the Olympics. Very hyped, you know, obviously Celtics were

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Speaker 2: not at full strength. Warriors got the win. Warriors a

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Speaker 2: shocking seven and one to start the season. I'm stunned, honestly.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think this was a playoff team. And listen,

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Speaker 2: this is a marathon, not a sprint. Celtics were down.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Brown. Obviously Porzingis still hasn't played. Tatum had a

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Speaker 2: really good game thirty two points, but ultimately Celtics just

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Speaker 2: nineteen to fifty four three point Tims. That's crazy. They

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Speaker 2: are the new Warrior, the Curry Thompson Durant Warriors. They

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Speaker 2: shot twenty more threes than Golden State. That's insane, just crazy.

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Speaker 2: A good game. And listen, Curry is Steph Curry, Draymond

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Speaker 2: Green is kind of sort of washed, but good little

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Speaker 2: regular season tilt early. I'm not gonna put too much

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Speaker 2: stock in it, just as I'm not gonna put too

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Speaker 2: much stock in the Lakers lost to Memphis. By the way,

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Speaker 2: funny dinner conversation I had with some buddies, So we

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Speaker 2: were trying to set an over under on Bronnie James

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Speaker 2: points for the entire season, okay, and I think we

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Speaker 2: started at eighty. We assumed playing time, a lot of

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Speaker 2: time in the G League, and then we reduced it.

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Speaker 2: I think we settled on sixty four or sixty eight

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Speaker 2: points for the season for Ronnie James. So this was

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Speaker 2: after his first bucket, so he had two and then

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Speaker 2: obviously he hasn't played much since then. He had two

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Speaker 2: free throws last night, so he's nowt to four points

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Speaker 2: eight games into the season. At this rate, right, eighty

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Speaker 2: two divided by eight roughly ten ten times four, that

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Speaker 2: would get him to forty points, well short of the

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Speaker 2: mid sixties. We were guessing for his points, and that's,

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Speaker 2: by the way, assuming he doesn't spend two months in

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Speaker 2: the J League, it could be longer. And again, I

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Speaker 2: like Bronnie James, are rooting for Bronnie James. I'm telling you, guys,

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Speaker 2: and do not laugh at this when I say it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: don't laugh. You know, I had to stack the deck

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Speaker 2: for my men's leau team. I had to go get

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Speaker 2: some superstars because we didn't win the title of the

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Speaker 2: last two seasons. And one of the guys I got,

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Speaker 2: I follow him on IG. I popped some of his videos.

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Speaker 2: His name's Trey Jones, and he was kind of a

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Speaker 2: late bloomer, so he just played Division two and you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously was very good, but now he's like, I think

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Speaker 2: he's twenty four to twenty five. I'm telling you, this

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Speaker 2: guy's phenomenal. Okay, feehenomenal, sixty three sixty four. And I

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Speaker 2: just randomly asked a couple guys on our team. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: let me be real, you've seen Bronnie James. He was like,

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Speaker 2: you know, really good high school player. He probably wasn't

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Speaker 2: McDonald's All American level, but his dad's lebron and then

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Speaker 2: USC didn't do much. I'm just telling you, this guy,

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Speaker 2: Trey on my team is six three, six four, and

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Speaker 2: unbelieve he's got a better handle than Brownie. Unbelieve. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's like a he trains guys, he trains NBA players,

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Speaker 2: and unbelievable jump shot, the hops, the defense. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's unbelievable. And now, yes, he's playing in our league.

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Speaker 2: But I actually asked, our guy, do you think he's

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Speaker 2: better than Bronnie? And this is not a knock on Bronnie,

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Speaker 2: like he's a young guy. He's not really a pure scorer. Now, obviously,

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Speaker 2: I I'm not crushing the guy here. I'm just saying, like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Now. The interesting thing out of his

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Speaker 2: just not all there all the time. Anyways, fun night

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Speaker 2: in the NBA. Before we get to our interview with

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Speaker 2: Bruce Feldman of Fox Sports, good stuff on college football,

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Speaker 2: the playoff quarterbacks for the NFL Draft. I just did.

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Speaker 2: This Dak Prescott thing is troubling. So Jane Slater, a

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Speaker 2: comes out and says, yeah, Dak press Gott's hamstring is

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Speaker 2: basically off the bone. Yikes, what Like that's not good

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Speaker 2: and so this injury usually requires surgery. Now, if you

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Speaker 2: to let it repair. Dak is obviously seeking other options.

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Speaker 2: It usually takes more than four weeks. I don't know, guys,

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Speaker 2: this is really not good for Dak and certainly the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: But again, he's seeking other options, which is why they

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Speaker 2: haven't officially put him on IR yet. But my gosh,

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott on the shelf for a minute, Cowboys in

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Speaker 2: deep doodo. I think the season's over, but I don't

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Speaker 2: want to be a hater anyways. Without further ado, let's

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Speaker 2: get to today's guest. Bruce Felban from Fox Sports.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: listen live. You know a guy, Jason likes to think

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Speaker 1: he knows everything when it comes to sports.

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Speaker 2: I know what sports fans want, but for.

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Speaker 1: Everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say I know a guy who knows the

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Speaker 2: guy who knows another guy. Welcome back to straight Fire.

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Speaker 2: A guy you know. He's one of the most prominent

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Speaker 2: voices on college football, Bruce Feldman. He does everything studio,

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Speaker 2: sideline reporting, he's on Big Noon Kickoff.

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Speaker 1: Bruce.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, man, I'm doing good.

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Speaker 3: We feel like we're in the home stretch of this

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Speaker 3: season now the whod number, and it's hopefully it's getting

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Speaker 3: the most fun part of this now that we some

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Speaker 4: Bit of shame.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say I heard a weird comment from

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Speaker 2: football doesn't become college basketball. Where the season is, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, how do you feel? How do you

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Speaker 2: what's your sense? Like, I mean, Oregon's awesome and undefeated,

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Speaker 2: but it's like, I don't know, even if they lose,

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Speaker 2: they're still going to be in the playoff, you know.

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Speaker 3: Right, And I think that, you know, it's probably closer

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Speaker 3: to the NFL model than it is anything else. There's

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Speaker 3: been teams who won the Super Bowl that we're not,

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Speaker 4: You know, with college basketball.

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Speaker 3: I would argue that the regular season feels largely irrelevant

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Speaker 3: just because there's a lot of games, and you know,

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Speaker 3: a team gets on a role in a conference i mean, championship,

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Speaker 3: there's you know, there's some good elements to march madness.

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Speaker 3: I think with college football, you know, you sit there

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Speaker 3: and go, Okay, how meaningful is this game? Mean?

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Speaker 4: Penn State's an interesting example here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they're they're highly ranked on the committee's

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Speaker 3: first go through, They're sitting at number six, and yet

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Speaker 4: I mean, we have them.

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Speaker 3: Last week they lost at home against against Ohio State

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Speaker 3: they're not in the Big Ten title game, though most

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Speaker 3: And I think people are kind of like, eh, I'm

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Speaker 3: It's like, what, you know, the probably the best argument

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Speaker 3: they've made is being fairly consistent against a pretty average

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Speaker 2: But yeah, let's say one loss Penn State that doesn't

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Speaker 3: I think the three loss Alabama is going to be

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Speaker 4: But they're still you know, they're still on a top.

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Speaker 3: Twenty five team right now, and you need to have

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Speaker 3: two other losses right now. I mean, this is a

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Speaker 3: three loss team, but I think they'd still be ranked

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Speaker 2: They okay, I would largely agree with that. By the way,

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Speaker 2: what do you make of the whole Kailin de boor season.

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Speaker 2: Halfway through that Georgia game, he's a genius, He's the

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Speaker 2: next Saban. Then they really crap the bed in the

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Speaker 2: second half, and they have not looked good since. What

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Speaker 2: do you think that's about. I mean a milrow we

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so a couple of things.

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Speaker 3: So start with this, Like last year, a lot of

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Speaker 3: people around Alabama thought that might have been Nick Saban's

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Speaker 3: best coaching job to get them to the playoff.

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Speaker 4: As they were. That was not a great Alabama team.

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Speaker 3: You know, you had Dallas Turner, but there wasn't a

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Speaker 3: lot of elite players in the front seven.

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Speaker 4: You know, there was no big time running back you know. There.

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Speaker 3: You know, they've gone from like our colleague mark Ingram,

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Speaker 3: Trent Richardson was a great college player. You had elite,

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Speaker 3: elite receivers. Right now, They're best receiver by far is

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Speaker 3: Ryan Williams, who's still technically supposed to be in high school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not great real quick. In the Big Twelve,

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Speaker 3: And if they win that, then obviously they're going and

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Speaker 2: You know, what do you think about the kid at Arkansas,

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Speaker 3: think it's the consistency. I mean, it's a really interesting

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Speaker 3: year aside from the guy a lot of people I

431
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Speaker 3: talked to thought was the top pick, top quarterback prospect

432
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,640
Speaker 3: in that Parson Beck. And he's just had a lot

433
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Speaker 3: of issues turning the ball over this year.

434
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Speaker 2: Carson Beck, I mean, there's no way he at this point,

435
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 2: he's the first round pick, right. I know, he looks

436
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 2: the part. You know, was he six four two twenty strapping,

437
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 2: big arm. But come, I mean he has been awful.

438
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Speaker 4: I would caution this.

439
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 3: I mean I wouldn't say there's no way, because you

440
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 3: know he's going to play a big game this weekend

441
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 3: against Old you know, they may be in the SEC

442
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 3: title game, they go on to run the playoff, like

443
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 3: I think, you know, a lot can happen right now.

444
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 3: It's just he's also struggled in their games away from Athens.

445
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 3: This game is in Oxford. You know, the other quarterback

446
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 3: on the other sideline, Jackson Dart, has played pretty much

447
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 3: lights out in his games in Oxford. You know, this

448
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 3: is a must win game. If ole Miss doesn't win

449
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 3: this game, they have no shot at the playoff. And

450
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Speaker 3: I feel like the year if they're sitting at three

451
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 3: losses with a bad loss at home against Kentucky, already,

452
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Speaker 3: you know, with the expectations on them to already have

453
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Speaker 3: three losses, I think that would be a huge disappointment.

454
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Speaker 2: Where are you on Dart as a pro? I mean six,

455
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 2: he is three and a half year starter.

456
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Speaker 3: I like him because the guys I've talked to who

457
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 3: played again some things, he's incredibly tough. They feel like

458
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 3: there's a lot of strong leadership skills. He is inconsistent,

459
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 3: but there's a lot to like there. Again, I think

460
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 3: we're going to find out a lot about him too,

461
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 3: because now that you know Michael Michael Williams has gotten healthy,

462
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 3: he's a dominant d lineman. They have really good front

463
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 3: seven talent as usual, but it was, you know, it's

464
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 3: it came to light really against Texas and they got

465
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Speaker 3: after yours really bad. If if they if if Dart

466
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Speaker 3: plays really well and he has good receivers and good

467
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 3: scouts talent, I think he could be a guy could

468
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 3: could really flash in this game on the on the

469
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Speaker 3: NFL draft radar, a big show me game.

470
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Speaker 4: But he's got ability.

471
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Speaker 2: So maybe the quarterback class isn't as bad as I

472
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Speaker 2: think it is, just because there's two guys that are

473
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Speaker 2: clearly good and then there's a bunch of others, like,

474
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Speaker 2: it's just weird, Bruce, because in recent years, we haven't

475
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 2: had a lot of second round quarterbacks. It's either like

476
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Speaker 2: they love you in the first or you're going to

477
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 2: drop and you're a mid round pick.

478
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's interesting because there's definitely guys with like

479
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,239
Speaker 3: some impressive tools, but you sit there and you watch, like,

480
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 3: and I've had this come up when I've talked to

481
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Speaker 3: a lot of Big Ten coaches, especially some of the

482
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Speaker 3: schools that came over from the PAC twelve, and one

483
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 3: of the defensive coaches was like, there's a big drop

484
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Speaker 3: off in the Big ten quarterbacks from what we were

485
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 3: used to seeing in the Pac twelve.

486
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Speaker 4: Now, it was an especially good.

487
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Speaker 3: Year in the Pac twelve because you had Caleb, you

488
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 3: had bon Nix, and you have Psychael Pennix who could

489
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 3: throw it better than both of them.

490
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Speaker 4: You know, it was just a really strong group.

491
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Speaker 3: Well, now you know, you have Dylan Gabriel, who's a

492
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 3: really good college quarterback, but I think, you know, I

493
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 3: think there's some skepticism about how his skill set will

494
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Speaker 3: translate to the NFL. You have Curtis Rourke, who I

495
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 3: think is a name to just keep under your hat

496
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 3: because he's played very well for Indian and he's got

497
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 3: good size. He runs but not great, but he's a

498
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 3: willing runner. He's very accurate. The coaches there I talk

499
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 3: to think very highly of him. But it's again, it's

500
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 3: not a not a great, really strong group in the

501
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 3: In the Big Ten, you have some guys with some talent,

502
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 3: but there are guys who like are pretty far away

503
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Speaker 3: in terms of you know, you look at Aidan Chiles,

504
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 3: who's a sophomore at Michigan State, a lot of harm talent,

505
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 3: moves well, but needs a lot of work reading defenses,

506
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 3: and that kind of thing has been turning the ball

507
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: over a lot.

508
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Speaker 4: You know, maybe a year from now that guy will

509
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 4: be a guy.

510
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 3: But right now, it's like there's a lot of there's

511
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 3: a lot of interesting prospects in the SEC, and I

512
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 3: feel like the Big Ten just doesn't have much depth

513
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 3: to it right now.

514
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Speaker 4: From that position there.

515
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Speaker 2: Let's give Indiana some love. They are two touchdown favorites

516
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 2: against Michigan. I have bet against Indiana twice this year, Bruce,

517
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: and it did not go well either time. I'm done,

518
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: so I think I'm gonna back them this week against

519
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: the Wolverines. Michigan had a game against Michigan State, big

520
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 2: rival game, then they hosted number one Oregon, and now

521
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 2: they got Indiana on the road. It just feels like Michigan,

522
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 2: which I don't know. They're just exhausted from last year's

523
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 2: run and then losing a lot of guys don't I

524
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 2: don't see Michigan being competitive here. But Indiana has been

525
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: a pretty awesome story.

526
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 4: Huh they have.

527
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 3: You know, we had them against Nebraska and they blew

528
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Speaker 3: the Huskers off the field. They won by almost fifty

529
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Speaker 3: And Kurt Signetti, who can you know? He's a sixty

530
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 3: three year old coach who came from JMU. Most of you, baby,

531
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Speaker 3: most guys didn't know who he was at hired college

532
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 3: football fans. He came in and kind of planted the

533
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 3: flag pretty quick with some really bold statements, and his

534
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: team has backed him up. Now he's I think maybe

535
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 3: they've done really well in the portal. They took a

536
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 3: bunch of good players from JMU, and then they supplemented

537
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: them with good players from other you know, got a

538
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 3: guy from ODU, got a guy from Wake Forest, and

539
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 3: those guys that fit really well. I think They are

540
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 3: very well coached and they're executing, and I think there's

541
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Speaker 3: an edge to them. Know, we're probably going to have

542
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 3: them in a couple of weeks at Ohio State.

543
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 4: That'll be a.

544
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 3: Huge game for them. I don't think they'll stumble between

545
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 3: now and then because they're just playing at such a

546
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 3: high level the way they execute. I mean, I've talked

547
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 3: to coaches who have played you know, a bunch of

548
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 3: the top teams in the Big Ten, and they kind

549
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 3: of come away going, you know, after we watch the

550
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 3: Filmore game, Rourke is much better than people realize, you know,

551
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: and you start they start to kind of reassess because

552
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: there's really not a lot of footprint on this On

553
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: this Indiana team. You know, they have a cornerback who's

554
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 3: a remarkable you know, playmaker, D'Angelo Ponds. He's a sophomore.

555
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 3: He's a short corner from Miami who originally you know,

556
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 3: you know it is from the same high school as

557
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 3: JJ Smith, the great Ohio State freshman. And he's just short,

558
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 3: but he's an elite athlete and he's a playmaker. He

559
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,719
Speaker 3: had two picks last week and a pick six. And

560
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: they have some you know, some really good edge rushers,

561
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 3: one of them they got from jam U, who's very disruptive.

562
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think.

563
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: There's guys who may maybe a little you know, the

564
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,719
Speaker 3: edge rusher six one, two sixty five, the corners five nine, like,

565
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 3: there may be one measurable that's slightly off, but everything

566
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: else is high level. And I think you're seeing that

567
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 3: really flourish in that program real quick.

568
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: Notre Dame they had the early season, awesome win over

569
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: A and M, and then they stumbled the following weekend.

570
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: Everybody wrote them off. Riley Leonard's been not great, But

571
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: here they are. You look at the schedule, You're like, oh, FSU,

572
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 2: that's a win, UVA, that's a win. They're probably gonna

573
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: beat Army, and then USC's struggling. Just change your quarterback,

574
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: Like the Notre Dame should run the table here.

575
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: No they should.

576
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think Armies are given. They're super

577
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 3: physical and they're never, never easy to play. But they

578
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 3: you know, they played a Navy team that's that's not

579
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 3: the same kind of system, even though obviously it's both

580
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: service academies.

581
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 4: They were undefeated.

582
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 3: A Notre name beat them fifty one to fourteen and

583
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 3: blew them off the field, I agree with you they should.

584
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 4: Handle FSU and UVA.

585
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: I think they'll handle you know, I think they'll handle

586
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 3: our me and they play USC out here and at

587
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: the coliseum. You know, who knows what kind of you

588
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 3: know us he's dangerous enough, Like we'll see what happens.

589
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 3: Jade Mayava is the quarterback switch. He was the freshman

590
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 3: of the Year in the Mountain West last year. He's

591
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: a bigger, more athletic quarterback than Miller Moss. You know,

592
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: if he gives them something in the run game in

593
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 3: addition to the past, like you know, USC has the

594
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 3: kind of receivers that can give anybody problems. Just don't know,

595
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 3: you know, you just don't know what kind of what

596
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 3: kind of shape us he's going to be in at

597
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 3: the end of the year. I mean, they they're coming

598
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: off this, you know, lost four of the last five.

599
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: They're they're definitely a that'll be an interesting one. But

600
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: if your Notre Dame sitting there, like Notre Dame has

601
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: a couple of wins that look better now than I

602
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 3: think coming out of that Texas and Amgemer. You're looking

603
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 3: at their schedule and you already saw FSU stumbling. You're like,

604
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: who's going to be really good here? Stanford's not, Georgia

605
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: Tech's kind of produced, stinks well, Florida State stinks.

606
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 4: But Louisville is good.

607
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not bad.

608
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 4: Good Win and Army and Navy.

609
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: Will you know, if they get Army, that'll be good

610
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: wins and you know USC won't because if they beat him,

611
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: USC be whatever a six loss team at least. Yeah,

612
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: but I still think at eleven and one with a

613
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: great with a really good win, at least at A

614
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 3: and M the start of the season, I don't think

615
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: you can gong them too much for losing, you know,

616
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 3: to Northern Illinois.

617
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 2: Right the last question, I thought the James Franklin stuff

618
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: was overblown. All these Penn State fans want to run

619
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: him out of town. I don't care about the fan

620
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: yelling at him, but like it just feels weird. Okay,

621
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: he struggled against Ohio State, so what they've been an

622
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: underdog in every single one of those games. I mean,

623
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: I know he hasn't won a lot of games against

624
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: what top ten teams, but like it just feels like

625
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: a little strange. I'm just curious. Do you think there's

626
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Speaker 2: any coach. Maybe Franklin's included who you know from a

627
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: top twenty team that may be a surprise. Hey we're

628
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: done with this guy. We're over it once the season ends.

629
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: Does any have you earn any rumblings anywhere.

630
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: Not for like that? I mean, you know, the guy

631
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: is going to probably go eleven and one. I don't

632
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 3: you know, it's like they can be frustrated with him.

633
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 3: I think, you know, sometimes we talk about these games

634
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 3: like is it going to change the narrative?

635
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 4: It would have to, because.

636
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: Right now I feel like almost everybody outside of State

637
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 3: College feels like and maybe even some of them, you know,

638
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: surely some of the fans, I think probably feel like, Okay,

639
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: we're good, but we can't beat anybody that's that good.

640
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: And that's got to be a frustration, you know, especially

641
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 3: how how shaky Ohio State looked the you know, the

642
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 3: game before when they play they struggled with a very

643
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 3: mediocre Nebraska team, but you know, they had their opportunities.

644
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: They The offense has been kind of a dud in

645
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: big games. That was the story last year when he

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Speaker 3: changed offensive coordinators. I think Andy kotal Nikki, who came

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Speaker 3: from Kansas as an upgrade, but they couldn't punch it

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Speaker 3: in when they needed to. Their touchdown was on a

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Speaker 3: pick six. I mean, I get it. That's why it's frustrating.

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Speaker 3: I think you sit there and wonder, like what is

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Speaker 3: it going to take for this team? Because they have

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Speaker 3: a bunch of m dudes on both sides of the ball,

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Speaker 3: especially on the d line, and you know, good running backs,

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Speaker 3: the tight ends are really good player but for whatever reason,

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Speaker 3: they just cannot you know, I don't know if it's

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Speaker 3: they get tight in the big game and that's what

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Speaker 3: it feels like, and we'll see, maybe they'll go to

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Speaker 3: eleven and one and go to the playoff and they'll

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Speaker 3: surprise some people and you know they can like start

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Speaker 3: to work to change the narrative around that program.

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Speaker 2: All right, So I was say, wins the national title,

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Speaker 2: obviously Ryan Day, does he leave for the NFL?

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Speaker 3: That would be a good question, It wouldn't That wouldn't

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Speaker 3: shock me if he did that because at that point,

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Speaker 3: what more is there to do? You kind of leaving

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Speaker 3: on a high note. That's a super fish bowl kind

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Speaker 3: of job. Like there's a handful of jobs in the

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Speaker 3: SEC that are big fish bowl jobs where I think

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Speaker 3: it's really tough on a lot of families, and Ohio

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Speaker 3: State fits in that category. But Ohio State's even different

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Speaker 3: because those their jobs. Whether you're LSU, Alabama, Georgia, you

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Speaker 3: can put Florida in there, you know, certainly Texas. But

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Speaker 3: what's different is at Ohio State you're the one superpower,

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Speaker 3: So everybody expects you to beat everybody else. I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying they don't expect it at Alabama, because obviously they do,

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Speaker 3: or Georgia, but like it's a little more reasonable to

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Speaker 3: be like, yeah, Georgia got us, or Alabama got us,

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Speaker 3: or this year LSU got us, whereas if you're you're

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Speaker 3: at Ohio State, nobody's actually resourced like you are.

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Speaker 4: You know, Michigan's relatively close us.

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Speaker 3: He has been spending their wheels, you know, Oregon, you know,

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Speaker 3: spend a lot of money on NL has great facilities,

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Speaker 3: but they, you know, they don't have the history that

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Speaker 3: that certainly Ohio State does. So I think that makes it,

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Speaker 3: you know, much more of an emotional grind of of

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Speaker 3: what's on the coach, what's on the coach's family, if

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Speaker 3: he got, if he got if he wins the national title.

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Speaker 4: This year. I could see.

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Speaker 3: You know, people are going to be weary because look,

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Speaker 3: the last Ohio State former head coach who went to

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Speaker 3: the NFL.

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Speaker 4: It that you know, bombed for Urban Meyer.

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Speaker 3: It's bombed for a lot of coaches who are not

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Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh who've gone Matt Ruhle. Now, one thing that's

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Speaker 3: different as Ryan Day actually has spent time sometime as

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Speaker 3: an NFL coach.

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Speaker 4: He knows what that world is like.

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Speaker 3: But you know, we've seen a lot of guys move

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Speaker 3: up and just can't can't do it.

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Speaker 2: It's not easy, all right. Bruce Fellman, Fox College Football

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Speaker 2: Big Noon Kickoff, He writes he podcast. I mean you're

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Speaker 2: more versatile than I am, and I tried to make

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Speaker 2: myself mister versatility. But congrats on all your success, Bruce.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Good seeing you, Jason.

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Speaker 1: couch watching the gates. He's making money while you here's

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Speaker 1: your best bat.

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Speaker 2: All right, good stuff from Bruce Feldman. I'll quickly drop

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Speaker 2: a just some thoughts on Thursday night football. So obviously

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Speaker 2: the Ravens are a juggernaut right now. Offensively, they are

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Speaker 2: a straight up machine. It would be foolish to try

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Speaker 2: to get in front of the train that is the

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Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens. That being said, give me the Bengals getting

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Speaker 2: six and a half. If you could find a six

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Speaker 2: and a half, great, If not, I think the six

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Speaker 2: is fine. Obviously, going on the road Thursday night football

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Speaker 2: is tough, but every sign out there points to the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Bengals run defense is not great. T Higgins not going

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Speaker 2: again this week. Looks like bj Hill their highest graded

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Speaker 2: defensive tackle. He looks like he's out with a rib injury.

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Speaker 2: And the Bengals they're just not good. Have I shown you,

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Speaker 2: guys who the Bengals have beat? So their wins have

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Speaker 2: come against the Panthers, Giants, Browns, and Raiders for just

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Speaker 2: pieces of trash. Their combined record is eight and twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: Every single team they've played with a winning record they've lost.

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Speaker 2: Now context is needed. They lost to the Chiefs. They

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Speaker 2: also led the Chiefs and should have won that game

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Speaker 2: if not for a questionable flag on fourth and sixteen

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Speaker 2: that led to the Chiefs game winner. They led the

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Speaker 2: Ravens by double digits with I think eight minutes left

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Speaker 2: before an epic collapse started by a Borough interception and

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Speaker 2: they had a chance to win in overtime and the kicker,

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Speaker 2: Evan Almighty Monny McPherson whatever his nickname is, he missed

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Speaker 2: and they ended up losing. The Ravens run game is unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Derek Henry, are you ready for this? Leads

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Speaker 2: the NFL in rushing yards, twenty yard carries, touchdowns, yards

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Speaker 2: per game, and first downs. This is first year with

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Speaker 2: the Ravens and he's just unstoppable. Okay. In the last meeting,

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Speaker 2: the Ravens had one hundred and seventy five yards on

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Speaker 2: the ground. There's no reason to think they're all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden gonna stop the Ravens run game. So why

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Speaker 2: are you Jason on Cincinnati? Well, this one's this is easy.

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Speaker 1: Uh Oh.

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Speaker 2: Before I give you the reason, let me give you

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Speaker 2: this fun fact. So since Burrow entered the league, the

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Speaker 2: Ravens have played the Bengals ten times. Ravens versus Bengals

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Speaker 2: ten times. However, Burrow and Lamar have only met three

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Speaker 2: times because one of the others always hurt. Okay, Burrow

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Speaker 2: one and two against Lamar should be two and one.

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Speaker 2: They should beat him this year. But so, Jason, why

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Speaker 2: are you on the Bengals? It is quite simple. This

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Speaker 2: is a divisional rematch and I'm just gonna rattle off

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Speaker 2: in what is this the last couple weeks divisional rematches?

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Speaker 2: So the Saints smash the Panthers in the opener, Panthers

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Speaker 2: come back last week and beat them. Bills destroy the

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Speaker 2: Dolphins in the game two, have got knocked out. Dolphins

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Speaker 2: come back down to the wire and only lose by

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Speaker 2: a field goal. Jets hammer the Patriots in the first meeting,

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Speaker 2: come back and lose the second one. These divisional matchups

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Speaker 2: the second time around always favors the underdog, and it's

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Speaker 2: more often than not close, even with like a Falcons.

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Speaker 2: Who is the Falcon Saints? No, No, not Falcons, It

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Speaker 2: was Falcons Bucks. Even the second meeting was close. Falcons

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Speaker 2: won both of them. But it's a divisional rivalry. The

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Speaker 2: familiarity with the teams, and most importantly, you'd let your

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Speaker 2: guard down if you beat them. And I don't mean

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Speaker 2: to reference to my men's basketball team for the second

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Speaker 2: time in this podcast. But the team we're playing in

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Speaker 2: the semifinals almost certainly tonight is the quarterfinals. We have

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Speaker 2: a bye, but it will almost certainly be mosgov and

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Speaker 2: the guy who went to Harvard and Duke. We beat

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Speaker 2: them twice this season. Now we gotta beat him again

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Speaker 2: in the semifinals, and it's gonna be tough. And I

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Speaker 2: would not be shocked if we lost, even though I

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Speaker 2: think we're hands down the best team. They're gonna have mosgof.

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Speaker 2: They didn't have him for the earlier two meetings. Now

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Speaker 2: we haven't had Richard Jefferson against them yet. Hopefully he plays.

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Speaker 2: But you I mean nervous. I'm just saying these rematches

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Speaker 2: are tough. Ravens definitely the better team. Give me the

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Speaker 2: Bengals getting six and a half. All right, everybody, enjoy

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Speaker 2: the game. We are back Manyana college football. Can I go?

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Speaker 2: Can I go eight and two in college Saturday college

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Speaker 2: football again? I doubt it, but I'll try. Can I

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Speaker 2: go four and one in the contest again? Unlikely, but

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Speaker 2: I'll try back tomorrow