1 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields, 2 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: player for you, Steve a blimp. We're not even in 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: the straded beer of normalcy. Here we go on a Thursday, 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: Chris Brown Steve Tasker one bills live as the show 6 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp is over and done, with the players 7 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: getting the final scheduled day of workouts off as everybody 8 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: heads home for the summer, and a lot of teams 9 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: are doing more of that these days. The coaches kind 10 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: of as a parting gift given them the last day 11 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: off start their summers a day early. A lot of 12 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: people there was automating arcle. Everybody's cutting them short. Yeah, 13 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: even it's kind of a give battery. Its Yeah, what 14 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: do you think that is? I think that used to 15 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: be they were chomping that we need to get these 16 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: guys in it. Now they're all giving them as time 17 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: back wall. Is it because they're not allowed to do 18 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: anything anyway? No, I think it's kind of an olive 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: branch from the coaching staff to the players like, hey, 20 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: we know you're working hard, we appreciate it. Here's our 21 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: give back to you. So we knew this was coming out, 22 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: and we wanted to let you know now that it 23 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: is official. The Bills twenty twenty two training camp schedule 24 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: is out, so you can go to Buffalo Bills dot 25 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: com if you want to look at the full schedule, 26 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: it is there waiting for you. But training camp starts 27 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: on July twenty fourth, and tickets are available July fourteenth, 28 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: so you can click on it there and see where 29 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: things get started. But it starts a hair earlier than 30 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: usual because they play on Thursday night, week one, not 31 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: set Sunday like most of the rest of the league. 32 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: And basically there are about i'd say two plus weeks 33 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: of practice out at Saint John Fisher. By the time 34 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 1: the Bills get to their first preseason game, they will 35 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: be back in Buffalo. Their first preseason game is August fourteenth, thirteenth. 36 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: August thirteenth, yeah, so they'll be back in Buffalo full 37 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: time by that point. So basically runs from Sunday, July 38 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: twenty fourth up until Thursday, August eleventh, out at training camp. 39 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: For the open practice schedule, again, go to Buffalo Bills 40 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: dot com. But with the camp schedule being released today, Steve, 41 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: we are checking in with Bills fans because this is 42 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: the first camp at Saint John Fisher since twenty nineteen. Yeah, 43 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: what did you miss most about training camp? Yeah? That 44 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: is our question today. And I would say, I just 45 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: want to see him out. I want to watch a 46 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: whole practice. I want to see who's practicing well, who 47 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: starts to string stuff together, particularly the young guys. I 48 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: want to see him string a couple of plays together, 49 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I want him to see 50 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: him Wow, this guy played really great today. And I 51 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: I took part in enough of these, and I've watched 52 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: enough of these, and I've heard enough coverage of a 53 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: lot of these to know that just because some young 54 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: player catches a nice pass doesn't mean he's having a 55 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: great camp, you know what I mean? Right, So, you know, 56 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: even in the two or three years that we've been 57 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: kind of extremely limited in what we can watch and 58 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: certainly what we can report on. You know, you see 59 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: somebody puts out this guy, you know, a highlight catch 60 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: on a guy, and you think, wow, he must be 61 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: really playing well. And you know, and the end of 62 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: training camp he's not around anymore. Wasn't that he's had 63 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: wasn't having a great camp. He's just a nice catch. 64 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: So it's it's nice to be able to make my 65 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: own observation, make our own observations, and make our form 66 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: our own opinions without having to do it trying to 67 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: see the whole picture through a keyhole. Yes, that's a 68 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: very valid point. I kind of share that being able 69 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: to watch practice fully is something that I missed and 70 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: really kind of hone in on the position battles, who's 71 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: faring well, who's opening eyes, who's coming out of nowhere 72 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: to earn a roster spot. I just like the daily 73 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: grind of it. The fan reaction to plays that are 74 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: made in camp. That's always fun. You know, somebody pulls 75 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: in a long pass, contested cats, you know those and 76 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 1: odds there, and I mean there's no doubt the fans 77 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: add juice to the competitive nature of practice. I mean, 78 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: I will say that under Sean McDermott, this team practice 79 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: is pretty hard, you know, in terms of the level 80 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: of intensity they ratchet up for practice, but the fans 81 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: and attendance, they sometimes ratchet it up, maybe just one 82 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: extra Yeah, there's a and they get it up to 83 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher, the people in Rochester and everybody comes 84 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: from other places as well, but for predominantly the people 85 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: there in Rochester, they are all about it and they 86 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: do add a little bit of juice to practices. Um yeah, 87 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: I mean I've played in when I was young, high 88 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: school and even and I played in community college level too, 89 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: the Juco level too. I mean there's more people at 90 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: a Buffalo Bill's practice these days, and they were in 91 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: the game in the stands in my games at those levels. Um, 92 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: it does add something to it. And it's nice to 93 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: see the people in Rochester to come, having them come 94 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: out and being a part of it. And you and 95 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: I are going to be doing the show from over 96 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 1: there as well. Yes we will be on location. That'll 97 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: be nice. We're gonna have I guess it's it's working 98 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: out to looking like we're gonna have like eleven shows 99 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: in Rochester training camp and so come by and say him, so, yeah, 100 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: it's I miss all of it. It's it's fun and 101 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: people the last couple of years there's always this angst 102 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: protail from the people in Rochester about gosh, are they 103 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: ever gonna come back now? Is it's going to be 104 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: the end of it? Are they gonna you know, stop 105 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: coming to Rochester for training camp. And and I've said 106 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: this same thing you talked to Sean McDermott. They're never 107 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: gonna stop coming to Rochester. They Sean McDermott loves having 108 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: his team go away and be in that environment. The 109 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: facilities are great for it. They they customize the whole 110 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: campus there while they're there, and it's set up for 111 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: him and it's good to get away. And I know 112 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: this too. I've I've felt the value of having an 113 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: away training camp. There is some value in it, and 114 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: I think Sean McDermott shares us. So they're not going anywhere. 115 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: They're gonna be in Rochester for a long time and 116 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: it's it's good to see him back here for the 117 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: first time in three years. So you need to let 118 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: us know what it is that you missed most about 119 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: Bill's training camp. We haven't had one in three summers 120 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: due to the pandemic. So eight oh three oh five 121 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: fifty one eight at eight five fifty two, five fifty 122 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: the number to get on board open line for you 123 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: and on the tweet sheet at one Bill's Live. It's 124 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: been three years since the Bills held training camp in Rochester. 125 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: What did you miss the most. What are you looking 126 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: forward to? You let us know there NFL News and Notes. 127 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this, Steve, but Dawson 128 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: Knox is part of a tight end university, which is 129 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: that group that got together for like a summit last summer. 130 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: All those tight ends across the league have gotten together 131 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: to raise money for the Boys and Girls Clubs of America, 132 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: and not surprisingly, Bills fans have turned out in droves 133 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: with donations for their tight end, Dawson Knox, who had 134 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: a slim lead over Chega Conquo, the tight end for 135 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, and I retweeted Dawson's you know, not 136 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: plea but request to keep on donating because they were 137 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: closing in on forty thousand dollars raised under Dawson's name, 138 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna I can check in to see 139 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: where it stands now. But um, he was in a 140 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: tight race, so I gotta say, like, it's not a 141 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: done deal, Lucille, So yeah, it's it's it's very close. 142 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: Um what's in jac Um, he's right behind with ten 143 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: from Tennessee's right behind him. Now Dawson is over forty 144 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: thousand dollars now just over forty thousand and forty one 145 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: thousand actually, so they're doing a great job. And Oj 146 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: Howard Buffalo Bills tight ends number three on the list. 147 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: So things are taking on. It's a great idea. Um, 148 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: these guys spin everything positive and this is one way 149 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: they can do it. Tight end you, um, raising money. 150 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: It's that is awesome. Yeah, and the Bills fans are 151 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: even helping out Oj Howard, who's in third place right now. 152 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: So the Bills tight ends first and third respect actively. 153 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: We got to see if we can get Dawson over 154 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: the finish line here as the lead fundraiser for the 155 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: Boys and Girls Clubs of America. So you can just 156 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: find Dawson or go to Mightycause dot com and you'll 157 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: find the tight End you effort to raise money for 158 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: the Boys and Girls Clubs, good stuff across the country. 159 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: So doing some good work there even in their off time. 160 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: As you know, they kind of enjoy the next five 161 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: six weeks before they really get back to the real 162 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: work of preparing for the twenty twenty two season. We 163 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: are going to have some players sound coming your way. 164 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: On today's show. We will hear from Dawson Knox himself 165 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the app probably in about twenty 166 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: minutes or so. Dawson addressed the media before things wrapped 167 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: up here for mandatory minicamp, and so too did third 168 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: year defensive end aj Epiness. Will be interesting to hear 169 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: from him and his own personal expectations for this his 170 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: third NFL season, knowing that Leslie Frasier and head coach 171 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott have said of him, Boogie Basham and Greg Rousseau, 172 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: it's time for consistent production. You know. These flashes of 173 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: production are great. Now, let's see it every week and 174 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: that is the step that all three of them have 175 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: to take. So we'll hear from aj in the second 176 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: hour of the show a little over a little less 177 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: than an hour from now on what his personal expectations 178 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: are for the twenty twenty two seasons. So be interesting 179 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: to check in with those guys as they get ready 180 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: for the fall. Elsewhere on the NFL landscape, I found 181 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: this interesting, Steve. You know, we're hearing about all the 182 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: quarterback movement that took place in the NFL this offseason, 183 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: and we haven't heard nearly as much about the quarterbacks 184 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: that were drafted because It was a rather whole hum 185 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: quarterback draft class this year, but the Atlanta Falcons drafted 186 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: quarterback Desmond Ritter at a Cincinnati Nie And we know 187 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: that they have Marcus Mariota there, the veteran, but many 188 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: see him as a bridge or a placeholder until the 189 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: next quarterback is ready, and right now that guy is 190 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter. Well head coach Arthur Smith of the Falcons said, 191 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter has surprised him and how easily he has 192 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: picked up his offensive scheme. Here's a direct quote behind 193 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: the scenes, the things that he has done as a 194 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: rookie really from the neck up, how he's operating when 195 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: we're doing the rookie walk throughs, when we do these 196 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: installations on the field, and his command. Then you're betting 197 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: on some of the physical things you see at times 198 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: to catch up. He's light years ahead of most young 199 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in terms of playing from the neck up. I 200 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: will give him that compliment. Now, that doesn't mean he's 201 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: ready to play NFL football, but in terms of mastering 202 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: the responsibilities, the assignments, the checks, the protections, it appears 203 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: he's got that down a lot sooner than anticipated. Yeah's 204 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: it comes down to a balance. Obviously, when you're we're 205 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: talking about NFL quarterbacks, guys like Josh Allen who are 206 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: supremely physically gifted, those guys get there. You know, they've 207 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: got to have that if guys who are not as 208 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: supremely gifted have to have something else going for him. 209 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: Guys like Mac Jones, guys like to a tongue of Iloa, 210 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: and and even Russell Wilson, who is one of those guys. 211 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger brought something to the table. They all have 212 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: a different skill set, and when you start talking about 213 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: him and evaluating him, all you can do is talking 214 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: about what they can do. Because I'm I'm it is 215 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: rare that a young quarterback does not come in and 216 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: struggle in some way, shape or form. Rare. Even Pat 217 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: Mahomes was a second year player before he got his 218 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: first well, he got his first started week the last 219 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: week of his rookie season. Then he came back and 220 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: of course was mvp is first year as a full starter. 221 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: Same thing. Peyton Manning throughout through for like twenty eight 222 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: touchdowns his rookie season, but he also through for twenty 223 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: six picks. Dan Marino you can go and he took 224 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: his team to the Super Bowl, but it was in 225 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: his second year, very young quarterback, first year as a starter, 226 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: Troy Eegman one in fifteen years star Jim Kelly took 227 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: a took a beating for as a Buffalo bill when 228 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: he first got to Buffalo there and a lot of that, 229 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: A lot of that was the guys where the was 230 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: the roster around him. But um, nevertheless, you can go 231 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: down the list. So when you're trying to pick and 232 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: choose things that these guys are good at, certainly if 233 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: a guy's got it from the neck up, that's that's 234 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: a good thing to know, um, because guys like Joe 235 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: Burrow justin Herbert are rare. They're rare, even though we've 236 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: had a couple of them in the last couple of years. 237 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: You know, they're hard to come by with physical tools 238 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: and the stuff from the neck up. Ritter, for those 239 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: that don't remember, Ritter was a third round pick of 240 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: the Falcons at of Cincinnati. Played a ton of football 241 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: for the Bearcats. He He had forty nine career starts. 242 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: He was a four year starter there. I mean he's 243 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: forty three and six was his record. So did an 244 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: awful lot at the college level. Now we're going to 245 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: see if he can transition to the pro level and 246 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: have at least some measure of that kind of success 247 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: as a young player. Once again, I mean, I'll say 248 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: it again. The guy's a third round pick because of 249 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: his physical attributes, size, arm strength, athleticism. He's no Josh Allen. 250 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: Here's no Justin Herbert. He's no Joe Burrow. He's not 251 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: Russ Wilson, even even though russ Wilson was a third 252 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: round pick as well. Russ Wilson was the third round 253 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: pick because he was sixty one, that kind of thing. 254 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: So we'll see. But they like him. They think it's 255 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: hard to come in and press coaches. Now, whether they're 256 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: telling the truth or whatever, they're where they're just pumping 257 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: his tires. I don't know, because we haven't seen him 258 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: practice or anything, but certainly he brings something to the table. 259 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see Atlanta traded Matt Ryan, so 260 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: they can't say we got nothing. Yeah right, I mean, 261 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: they got no. This guy's doing great. We just traded 262 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: the best player in our franchise's history, or the most 263 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: productive player in our franchise's history. But we got a 264 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: really really good guy too, So yeah, there's gotta be 265 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of that going on there. Did you 266 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: hear about Marcus Davenport, the defensive end for the Saints. 267 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: He had a Ronnie Lot procedure done. His finger amputated, well, 268 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: the tip of his pinky, just like Ronnie Lott. So 269 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: what happened was he busted the pinky. And I know 270 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: you know about broken fingers, having done that more than 271 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: your fair share of times. So he broke his pinky 272 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: and they basically did surgery on it, and they put 273 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: a plate in there. The plate broke all these different 274 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: kinds of complication since he had about three different surgeries 275 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: on the pinky, and then they finally just said, let's 276 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: just amputate the thing. So basically, from the last knuckle 277 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: to the end is gone on his pinky because it just, 278 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, it's such a small part, 279 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: you know, on the smallest digit on your hand, I mean, 280 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: next to the thumb in terms of length. But and uh, 281 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: it just they couldn't get it right. Yeah, it's the 282 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: end of your pinky. Do you really need it? Ronnie 283 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: Lott didn't listen. I'd rather have mine than not. But yeah, 284 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: I guess you know. Yeah, I mean he tore ligaments 285 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: all the way back in college, and yeah he got 286 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: it surgically repaired the last year because I yeah, I 287 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: get it, YaST get tired of dealing with it. Just 288 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: lop it off. Now. That may be the different your thumb, 289 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: but your thumb or your index finger, that's a little 290 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: bit different. That made the way out here on the 291 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: end of your hand, thinking about it aside from your 292 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: a haircut or clipping your nails. Yeah, that is the 293 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: one thing. Maybe okay, you can have the tip my pinky, 294 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: maybe one of your the tip of one of your toes. 295 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, but still that's one of the 296 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: right you want to mess up your balance, right, So 297 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: that would be the like one appendage that you'd say, okay, 298 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: I'll think about that, right. I remember reading something. I 299 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: remember I was in high school and we were doing 300 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,239 Speaker 1: what the heck class was at, Oh it's biology, and 301 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: they were talking about evolution, you know, of how you know, 302 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: the whole Darwinism thing and how you know birds would 303 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: change based on their climate and all this stuff. And 304 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: then the last sentence grabbed me said, you know, among 305 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: the theories as to how the human body might change 306 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: over time? Is that the pinky toe, you know, in 307 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: a couple of hundred years, may just eventually disappear. And 308 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, what we're going from ten to eight? What 309 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 1: the hell's going on? I read that? I was like, 310 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: who put that theory in a textbook for a student 311 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: in high school? You're telling me I'm gonna lose my 312 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: My grandkids aren't gonna have pinky toes. Think about it. 313 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: You'd have how about eight toes and ten fingers? That's 314 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: kind of you know what I mean, we wouldn't be 315 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: symmetrical down to eighteen? Man, not good? Yeah, I'm not. 316 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: I'm not. First of all, I was like, get the 317 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: heck out of here with that. Yeah, you kind of 318 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: need that for balance out there. I mean it's a 319 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: small toe, but be a couple of hundred million years, right, yeah, yeah, 320 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: that's gotta be like thousands of years, right, thousands of 321 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: punk there. We haven't gonna be around thousand years. I'm yeah, 322 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: my toes are staying worthy, not worried about yeah, But 323 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, but here's the thing, So I why 324 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: would you do that at this time of year? Why 325 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: would you get your finger cut off in June June 326 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: because I think he had a complication with it again. Um, 327 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: and from what I read, he was also getting surgery 328 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: on his He had surgery on his right shoulder in January, 329 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: and then this finger issue threw a wrench into his 330 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: whole rehabilitation. On the shoulder. The pinky is just a 331 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: nagging thing. He just keeps tearing the ligaments in there 332 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: again and again and again and again. So he said, 333 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: just loped the dang thing off, and that's that's where 334 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: he wound up. Now. The difference between him and Ronnie 335 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: Lott is Ronnie Lott did it in the middle of 336 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: the game, and the trainers just like or the doctor 337 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: on the sidelines is like, well, I can't fix it now. 338 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: He's like, this is too messed up to fix now, 339 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: because well, then just cut it off. Well, they didn't 340 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: do that during a game. They didn't. I thought it 341 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: was during a game. They did it during the week 342 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: before a game. Oh okay, he was gonna it was 343 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: gonna bother him and all that. They were gonna have 344 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: to put a big, you know, club on him or yeah, 345 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: and he didn't want any part of that, so he 346 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: had it. It's clipped off, clip it off. That's just 347 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: a yeah, that's just a pinky that makes me cringe, Ronnie. 348 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: It's just a pinky lot. And Marcus Davenport is now 349 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: in the same boat, um because he broke the plate 350 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: in there. Then he had an infection. It's just like, 351 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: you don't want to be dealing with staff and stuff. 352 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: That's just I broke my hand like every time. I'm 353 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: getting old, So every time I think about it, I 354 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: get a different number times I broken. But it's like 355 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: one two, it's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven eight. 356 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: Do you have any arthritis? No, I'm good. I think 357 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: at least nine, I think. I think my I read 358 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: my doctor's report, like my medical file one time, and 359 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: it said I had did it like eleven times. I 360 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: was like, well, that seems like a lot. I couldn't. 361 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: I only have ten, but I know one of them 362 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: got broken, you know, multiple times, But yeah, you just 363 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: maybe I'll take them. It's not like I didn't tape 364 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: your fingers up. I mean tape them up right, like, 365 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: or did you not? Because you want to be able 366 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: to tackle if one of them was hurt. I taped 367 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: it up, but I didn't do it. Normally with without 368 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: well maybe you should have looked into that, like you 369 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: keep breaking them, what are you doing? Yeah, but it's 370 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: always a freak thing, you know. I was playing football 371 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: so right, well, right, so tape the damn knuckles up 372 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: so you don't bring them back with a like put 373 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: small bands around between each and each knuckle on my fingers. 374 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: That would help, yeah, because I'll tell you it really does. 375 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: Because when you grip something and you've got those uh 376 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: like a little rubber band rubber bands, but they're tape 377 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: around your like I'd have like eight tape rings around 378 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: my fingers in one around. When you grabbed a guy's jersey, 379 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: you really felt like, man, he's not going to I 380 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: got it. Like I would give you extra grip. Yeah, 381 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: I would feel like I could do a one armed 382 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: pull up almost, you know, because I was. It was drippy, 383 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: right if I'd had the strength. But you know what 384 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just not gonna lose your grip. And 385 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: for me that was that was crucial, but it wasn't 386 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: very good in terms of preventing injury to the thing. 387 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: It did not help, yeah, obviously, but the tackle, yes, 388 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: all right, yeah, because it's interesting my thumb. I broke 389 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: my thumb one time and he the doctor was looking. 390 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: He said, yeah, it's broken right right here, and he goes, oh, 391 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: and it's broken here too. I go there. He goes, yeah, 392 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: this is broken up here. I go, well, that that's 393 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: been hurting me for three weeks. I did that three 394 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: weeks ago. That's broken that kind of stuff. Gez So, yeah, 395 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm not the sharpest tool in the drawer, Brownie so 396 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: smarter than most. But that's what happened. Did you get 397 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: this guy getting his pinky the tip of it cut off? Yeah, 398 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: I mean he's a story. It's the law of diminishing return. Yeah. 399 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: I mean it's to the point where like the pinky 400 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: always gave him problems, now it's getting infected. Like, let's 401 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: just nip this at the bud so I don't lose 402 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: my whole pinky or part of my hand, like you know, 403 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: those infections or the hospital and you're on an IV 404 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: with antibiotics because you got not good, got you know, 405 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: crazy poisoned. But yeah, headed off at the pass. Yeah, 406 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: I get it. Commander's owner Dan Snyder, Steve, I'm not 407 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: going to testify at the June twenty second congressional hearing. Shocker. 408 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: So I guess who's got to hold the bag for him, 409 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: Roger Roger Goodell, the commissioner, because if neither of them 410 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: address the you know, the subcommittee, that's that's a bad 411 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: look for the NFL. It's already bad optics around the 412 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders. With Snyder, Well, that's what this is about, 413 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: on the advice of his It's it's based around the 414 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: terrible culture at the Washington Commanders organization. That's why, hosogynistic culture. 415 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: That's why he's going to the Senate or the Congressional committee. Yeah, 416 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: about the toxic workplace environment Washington commanders. Yes, it's not 417 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: about the Deshaun Watson or the the I don't Yeah, 418 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if that stuff can be roped in. 419 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: I would tend to believe that it's pretty narrow in scope. 420 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: So yes, I believe it's Washington Commanders only. And as 421 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: we know, the League conducted their own investigation about the 422 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: workplace environment there, if you remember. So that's probably why 423 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: Goodell is on ten million dollars might be the largest 424 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: fine in League history. Ten million dollars. Yeah, I'm telling you, man, 425 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: I think that I don't want to speak for NFL 426 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: ownership because I don't know what they're thinking. But we 427 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: saw the reports that at the last owners meaning they 428 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: were taking a straw poll, Hey, do we have enough 429 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: votes to get this joker out? Yeah, because it looks 430 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: like they've run out of patience over the past with 431 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder. Yeah, over the past half decade or so, 432 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: it has been a steady stream of this kind of 433 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: thing coming out of Washington, and I think they're like, 434 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: let's what do you think, guys? Right, you look around 435 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: the rooms, like, guys, what do you think we voted 436 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: him off the eye? It's time to hit the red button, right, 437 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: just eject. So it'll be interesting to see where that goes. 438 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: Because while there might be impetus and there might be 439 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: good reason it probably to move yes, to move Daniel 440 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: Snyder out as owner of the Washington Commanders, at the 441 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: same time, it could potentially set a very very interesting 442 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: precedent and all of those owners could be on the 443 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: other side of that precedent, for god knows what. You know, 444 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: you step in some stuff, right, and this is egregious 445 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: if they can prove it to be true testified. This 446 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: also is not something like for instance, the Cleveland or 447 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: Jimmy Haslm got caught, um uh doing some financial improprieties 448 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: with some of his employees for his flying Ja truck 449 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: stops right. That was outside of football. Um, this is 450 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: inside one of the organizations deals with the office is Yeah, 451 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: so this is it's different. Maybe some other you know, 452 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: David Tepper has you know the company he had to 453 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: build his practice facility in South Carolina just across the 454 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: board from from rock Hill. Yeah, Um, that company, he said, okay, 455 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: we're I'm pulling out. I'm not doing it anymore. So 456 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 1: he's company didn't come through with the money. They probably 457 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: didn't do it. And now he said forget it. Then, 458 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: and that little company that he formulated to get that 459 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: project down, he just declared it bankrupt and just did 460 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: away with it. So stuff like that at the level 461 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: we're talking about. Okay, I mean, but this is a 462 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,719 Speaker 1: little different. This is um the guy who founded the 463 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers sold the team under the exact same type 464 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: of accusations that Dan Snyder's being accused of. He sold 465 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: the team. Yeah, and he's his name's escaping me now. 466 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: And but Jerry Jerry Richardson. But he wasn't forced to. 467 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: He just said voluntarily, all right, I'll get out. This 468 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: is different. He was his heels dog, He was advanced 469 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: in years, and he was ready to cash out. Snyder 470 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: is digging his heels in every step of the way, 471 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: whether it came to changing his team name, dougas heels 472 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: in on that misogynistic work culture, dougas heels in on that. 473 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: And now he's also been accute. Let's not forget this. 474 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: He's been accused of cooking the books with two different 475 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: sets of accounting ledgers, and may have been withholding revenue 476 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: that's supposed to be shared with his fellow owners, whether 477 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: it's because it's usually sixty forty share of the gate. 478 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 1: Home team keeps sixty percent, visiting team gets forty percent, 479 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: so he's not even sharing the revenue his teams pulling 480 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: in with his other owners. That once you start talking 481 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: hard dollars and cents, that's when the billionaires say, you're out, 482 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: budd Yeah, and I'm none of that is you don't 483 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: get more of the pie than we do, right, And 484 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: all thirty two owners and the groups that are part 485 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: of those ownership groups are different, and they all don't 486 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: think about it. The same way. Some of them will 487 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: be like, dude, just don't do that anymore. It's because 488 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: for them, some of this, even at the NFL level, 489 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 1: the that's really seriously skimming. It's not that's what he's doing. 490 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: It's not gouging, but it is. It is something. It's 491 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: not nothing. Yeah, and when you're talking about a fourteen 492 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 1: billion dollars a year industry, right, skimming gets into some 493 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: pretty big numbers pretty fast. Right, So he wasn't bankrupting 494 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: any other teams doing this. But nevertheless, these guys are 495 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: they got their own books to worry about. He's affecting 496 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: the bottom line, so that you're right to me, that 497 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: starts to get into We always say, hey, the NFL 498 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: is all about money and they're gonna squeeze every nickel 499 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: out of it, and people, the cynical people here amongst 500 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: us will say that if that's the case, well we're 501 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: gonna find out. We're gonna find out. And it looks 502 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: like it'll start with the Rational Subcommittee. So we'll see 503 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: where that goes. Come June twenty second, when Commissioner Goodell 504 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: is set to testify, we'll see what questions he's asked, 505 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: What answers he gives, and Daniel Snyder sent a letter 506 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: to that committee on Capitol Hill and basically said, on 507 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: the advice of my attorney, I will not be testifying. 508 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: So there you go. We'll leave that there. We'll take 509 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: a break as well, but when we come back, you'll 510 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: be hearing from Bill's tight End. Dawson Knox, who addressed 511 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: the media here before mandatory minicamp wrapped up, covered a 512 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: number of topics, including his newest running mate O. J. Howard. 513 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: Dawson Knox coming your way next here on One Bill's Live, 514 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: presented by Collott of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, 515 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brat, Steve Tasker 516 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: with you time now, though for us to turn to 517 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: was tight End. Dawson Knox, who addressed the media before 518 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: mandatory minicamp, concluded, Here is Dawson. You have the Isaiah 519 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: McKenzie singing performance last night. Oh, I thought it was great. 520 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: I just wish we could actually hear him. I was 521 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: waiting for a solo but didn't get it. But I mean, 522 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: they killed it. It was awesome appointment viewing among the 523 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: guys in the locker room oh yeah, everyone was watching. 524 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: I think he even had a watch party in the 525 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: building here, so people came up here to watch it. 526 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: But I was watching it, how Megan. Sure, I didn't 527 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: miss it. But they did great. Hopefully they keep going. 528 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: Did you performances in the locker room? You've been pretty 529 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: everyone's been singing it. Now everyone thinks they can sing 530 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: after saying that. But we actually started the team meeting 531 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: today with the song. It came on. Everybody was singing 532 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: and he was just standing there smiling. We didn't he 533 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: didn't actually sing today, but it was fun watching him 534 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: in that setting. It's cool the song. But you know, 535 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: I mean, what's a good one? Eddie Howard. Aw's been awesome. 536 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: There's gonna be so much versatility, versatility of this offense now, um, 537 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: twelve thirteen personnel. Um, you know, bring us in, run 538 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: the ball, spread us out, good us, good matchups. Um. 539 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: And he's a great dude too, So he's just kind 540 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: of increasing the work ethic of the whole group. And 541 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: anytime you can increase competition of the group, it's just 542 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: gonna make the whole group better. He's you know, it 543 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: wasn't high draft pick. I mean, just what he stands 544 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: out about He's obviously a physical presidence running down the team. 545 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: He said, what stands out Yeah, yeah, just a size 546 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: like he makes me feel small, you know that does massive. Um, 547 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,239 Speaker 1: he's got a great catch radius, he runs good routes. Um, 548 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: and he's strong too, so he's just very well rounded 549 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: tight end. It's gonna you know, I think he'll make 550 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: a splash this year for us, like um, you know, 551 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: being no course by course Dorsy now that he's the 552 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: O sne what different twitch does he brings to this offense. Oh, 553 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: it's been great so far. Um, just moving different pieces 554 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: to different parts. We haven't played aid. It might be 555 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: the same play call, but you might be lined up 556 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: at a different position, so your running routes you're not 557 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: used to right now. But you know, it's just that 558 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: versatility thing. You know. It's getting us spread out to 559 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,479 Speaker 1: get the right matchups and giving the defense something they 560 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: haven't seen before with this offense. So there's gonna be 561 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,719 Speaker 1: a lot of cool pieces that come together, especially as 562 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: we work through camp. What's your confidence level like coming 563 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: in from a year ago where you're trying to take 564 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: that step to now you're coming in this year having 565 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: taken that step and elevated your game. Does it feel 566 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: different showing up with what you've done last year coming 567 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: off you know, previous years. Yeah, I mean, I think 568 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: it's important to have confidence and to know you can 569 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: go on and do what you want to do. But 570 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: at the same time, you don't ever want to feel 571 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: comfortable or complacent. So it's just all about building on 572 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: it and just taking another step too, because I don't, 573 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, feel like I've hit the pinnacle of my game. 574 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: I feel like I've just you know, started to scratch 575 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: the surface. So we're gonna take another step. Emphasis for 576 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: you either like w you're body or you know, learning 577 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: now just kind of increasing my route tree and working 578 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: different routes I haven't worked before with Josh, and just 579 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: working on timing what you have talked about before that 580 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: the fact that you were a quarterback in high school 581 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: and then you're kind of injured college, did you start 582 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: to feel more like comfortable doing tight end things and 583 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: more and more. I know it sounds like a dumb question, 584 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: but just the fact of yeah, just the more you 585 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: do something, the more you're gonna get comfortable with it. Um, 586 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: I've you know, do feel like I can do whatever 587 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: it's required on me now, and it's kind of just 588 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: been a step by step deal, you know, day by day, 589 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: stacking good days on good days. But yeah, I mean, 590 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: i'd say the comfortability in terms of just playing the 591 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: position at all, you know, whether it's a block and 592 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: pass retection or runn of routes. Um, I feel like 593 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: it's started become a little natural approaching or contract year 594 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: understanding not being done at disappoint after this season. I mean, 595 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: I don't think it's any different than any other year. Um, 596 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: you start thinking too much about stuff like that, it's 597 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: gonna just distract you from how you playing on the field. 598 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: So it's just same old year, same old thing. So 599 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: how do you look at and from your perspective, the 600 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: celebrity of Josh Allen, that's that's become this offseason. You 601 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: see him about the up one race, you see him 602 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: on the team playing and gets platy and and Rodgers. Um, 603 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: everywhere he goes, he's on TMC, going to dinner. Um, 604 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: just what do you make of what that's becoming and 605 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: how perhaps he's not changing? Oh yeah, I don't think 606 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: he's changed a bit. Um, Just that notoriety with how 607 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: well he's playing is just gonna keep coming. Um, but 608 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean I haven't seen that change him at all. 609 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 1: You know, he's just the same old guy, cracking jokes 610 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: on the sidelines and quoting movies that no one's ever 611 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: heard from or heard of. Uh, well yeah they dude's 612 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: hilarious and he's one of the greatest competitors I've ever 613 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: played with. So he's I don't think he's gonna change 614 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: at all. It's gonna follow up on that a little bit. 615 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: As John was asking that question, you can probably wanted 616 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: to smile a little bit. You're close with Josh. Is 617 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: it kind of funny to you if I'm much of 618 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 1: a star he's become. Yeah, just because no one truly 619 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: knows his personality. Um, you know, I mean he lets 620 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: it come out every now and then, but you know, 621 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 1: twenty three hours of the day, he's got to be on. 622 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: You know, he's got to have that you know persona 623 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: being a professional, you know, superstar. But um, if people 624 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: got to know him behind the scenes, they'd figure out 625 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: he's he's truly hilarious. Like you you talk about that 626 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: one hour you've seen that. Maybe he doesn't really kind 627 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: of show everything every day is a New D's nutsjoke. 628 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: So um. So you can never you can never be 629 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: comfortable around him because anytime he comes up and ask 630 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: you a question, you just have to walk away. But 631 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: that's why he loves having the rookies because they have 632 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: no idea, so they're just like, oh, what what is it? 633 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: And then they just you know, anybody knew in the 634 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: locker room, and then it's rats to the whole team, 635 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: and by the end of the day, everyone's cracking the 636 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: same joke. So um. But yeah, that's a little peak 637 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: and into his personality and that's I mean, he's we 638 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: all see him as feet the lead, right Yeah, but 639 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: how how I mean, how definitely does he balance that 640 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: leadership to get loosens? Oh, It's it's insane, Like even 641 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: on the sideline during games, like you know, he's light, 642 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: he keeps things. You know, it kind of takes the 643 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: pressure off because he'll be kind of you know, joking 644 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: back and forth with you. But you step on that 645 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: field and no one can flip the switch like him, 646 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: Like he you know, has fire in his eyes. He's 647 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: ready to go down and you know, run over a 648 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: defensive van or jump over a linebacker or you know, 649 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: throw eighty yard touchdown passes. So when that switch flips, 650 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: no one wants to get in his way, and that's 651 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: what makes him the incredible player that he is. He 652 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: talked about to have ton of Tampa and as being 653 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: a moment where he saw that which flipped with Josh. 654 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what what was said or what he did, 655 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: but no, did you see that hit ring as well? Yeah? Yeah, 656 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: it definitely was a turning point, UM, and it kind 657 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: of made us realize that, UM, we need to just 658 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: shift gears and really put the pedal to the metal 659 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: like it was. It was go time from there. So, UM, 660 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: I think that game was a great representation of how 661 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 1: we can really turn it on when we need to, UM, 662 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: and it kind of let us know that the season 663 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: was coming to an end soon and we had to go. 664 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: So that was UM. Even though we ended up losing 665 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: that game in overtime, it was it was a great 666 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: indicator to show what our team was capable of, UM, 667 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 1: coming back from a deficit like that, and UM, that 668 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: flip switch you can turn on. How much was Josh 669 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: behind that? Oh? I mean he's you know our R 670 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: R m VPS our go to guy. He controls everything. 671 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,919 Speaker 1: There's a reason he gets paid when he gets paid. 672 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 1: Honestly deserves more. But um like he's you know, he's 673 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,919 Speaker 1: our guy. So he's the field general and everyone's gonna 674 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: rally around him, and um yeah, it wasn't really like 675 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: a halftime speech or anything. He's not a raw ra guy. 676 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: He just goes out there and does what he's capable of. 677 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: He was playing through an injury and we all knew 678 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: that too. Um, so it's just kind of seeing what 679 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 1: he does on the field. He gets every once a 680 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: rallied brings more options to this offense. But also Ken 681 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: Dorsey is using all differently health different Ken this tight 682 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,959 Speaker 1: end group of this season. Um, you know, I think 683 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: just the more we can add to the offense, the better. Um, 684 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully we can get you know a lot 685 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: of thirteen personnel involved with Tommy and then Reggie in 686 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: the backfield playing fullback, especially now with OJ. I mean, 687 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: it's gonna be scary to see what our offense is 688 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: capable of. Yeah, the more tight ends the better. Yeah. 689 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: We always joke that we hate, you know, when ten 690 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: personnel is out there without the tight ends. But um, yeah, 691 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 1: we want as many of us out there as we 692 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: can get. Your next BA is gonna be in Rochester. 693 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: A lot of guys have ever been there before. What's 694 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: the conversation been like about what that experiences and we're 695 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: gonna come those guys. Yeah, it kind of, honestly just 696 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: feels like college camp going away. You're in the dorm rooms. 697 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 1: It really. It's it's great mentally too, to kind of 698 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: get out of Buffalo, get out of your homes and 699 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,879 Speaker 1: kind of have that feeling of everyone's kind of going 700 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 1: to war together because those days are long and they're tough, 701 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 1: but when you spend them so closely with all the guys, 702 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: that kind of brings the team together too. So I mean, 703 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: it's nothing. It's nothing new to us or to me 704 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 1: or really to anybody because everyone's gone through a camp 705 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: where they're in dorm rooms and sleeping off campus doing 706 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But I think everyone's kind of excited 707 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: about it, especially the new guys. I haven't been in 708 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: Rochester yet. Yeah, they'll be number one on the leader 709 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: board for the Kidown University. Oh yeah, huge, huge shout 710 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: shout out to Bill's Mafia. I think I posted one 711 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: or two things, and I was, I don't know, probably 712 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: in thirtieth place or something. That was probably last. Um, 713 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: and it came to my attention that this competition was 714 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: going on for tight End. You put one thing up 715 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: on my story and now I think I'm in first 716 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: by like like three or four times the next guy. Um. 717 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: It just shows you how great our fan base is, 718 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 1: and um, there's nobody that can compete. So I hope 719 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: we keep that going. I approach that any differently the 720 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: heear tight End you of like, are you starting to 721 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: give advice to guys or are you still mostly listening? Yeah, 722 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: I mean mostly listening. I think you know, there's there's 723 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: a few things I was able to share last year, 724 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: and there will be a few questions I get this 725 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: year too, But um, it's really listening to the guys 726 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 1: like you know Travis Kelsey who's led the league in 727 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: receiving yards receivers too, Like he's led literally everyone in 728 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 1: receiving yards over the last five years or something. Um. 729 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: So it's always fun getting behind or getting in the 730 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 1: film room with guys like that and seeing like little 731 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: things that they might see in a defense or in 732 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: a film cut up. And then stuff that they see 733 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: on the field and how they read and react to 734 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: certain defenses. So it's always fun picking one or two 735 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: pieces from other people's game that you might apply to yourself. 736 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: Last year before you know, last last year working out, 737 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: you had a vision specialist, which led to your breakout season. 738 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: Would you continue to work out with your vision specialists 739 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 1: and anytime? Oh? Yeah, he's great. Um. I got stuff 740 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: that I do at home all the time that he 741 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: gave me. Um, whether it's an app on the phone 742 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: or a you know, ping pong ball shooting machine. Um, 743 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: there's tons of stuff you can do by yourself and 744 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: he's he's awesome, Like he works with MLB catchers and 745 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: hockey goalies and really all sports. So it was really 746 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 1: cool last year to get introduced to that. But it's 747 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: it's been fun building on it too important. I was 748 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: in your ping pong game. That's a great last question. Um, 749 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: well I've definitely caught ping pong balls better after they 750 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: you know, come off the board, but sadly with the paddle, 751 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: nothing's improved there. So yeah, all right range of topics 752 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: there with one Dawson Knox and I would say, I 753 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: mean we went we went all the way from Josh 754 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: Allen's jokes to how his ping pong game is wide 755 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: range of topics. The most the most interesting one to 756 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: me though, was the little peak that he gave into 757 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: what sounds like a wide expansive range of personnel groupings 758 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: and movement of players within those personnel groupings. Under Ken Dorsey, 759 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: we are going to see I think a lot of 760 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: guys and a lining up in a lot of different 761 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: places pre snap than we're used to previously seeing in 762 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: the scope of this office. Yeah, you also mentioned thirteen 763 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 1: personnel that they're using and spreading them out and thrown 764 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: him in you know big which thirteen for those hits. 765 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 1: It's one back, three tight ends, right, and there are 766 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,320 Speaker 1: usually certain down and distances where you use that, you 767 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: use all that stuff that's like a short yardage. Yes, 768 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 1: But then he said nowhere and he's like, think throws 769 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,280 Speaker 1: in casually and we spread them out and get the matchup. 770 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 1: We want them like spreading out thirteen personnel. Well, if 771 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: you have O. J. Howard and Dawson Knox's two of them. Yeah, yeah, 772 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: you could Pereggie Gilliam in the backfield. They have a 773 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: hybrid tight end fullback apparently that's what they're doing, so 774 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,760 Speaker 1: but he also said there's a lot of other personnel 775 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: combinations they're using as well, So it's he's right, and 776 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: that's what you would expect at any all these NFL 777 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: teams are gonna throw all these personnel groupings out there, 778 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: See what, see what looks good, see who, And then 779 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 1: interestingly enough, they'll talk to their defensive guys, say what 780 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 1: do you guys think about if we put this guy, 781 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: this guy, and this guy out there. They're going who 782 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: that's an issue for us because of this, this, and this. 783 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: So they can use that in trying to manipulate their 784 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: opponent and give their opponents something different to think about 785 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: with the different personnel combinations. And yeah, it's a lot 786 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: of fun this time here, and Ken Dorsey said that 787 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: the first time, right out of the box in these OTAs, 788 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: this is the fun part of the year where you 789 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,240 Speaker 1: get to be creative and try stuff, and certainly Dawson 790 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: knoxes enjoying it. We will take a break here, Steve 791 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 1: and I back with some of your comments on the 792 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,760 Speaker 1: tweet sheet. Next, what did you miss most about training camp? 793 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: Now that it's back? Training camp schedule up on Buffalo 794 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: Bills dot Com. Check it out if you want to 795 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: head out to Saint John Fisher late July early August. 796 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 1: Back in a moment here on One Bills Live presented 797 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to 798 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, And 799 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: just to pull another thing from some of Dawson Knox's comments, Steve, 800 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: we heard Brandon Bean addressed this earlier in this offseason 801 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,760 Speaker 1: when he was talking about Josh and how the step 802 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 1: he took in his leadership of the team. I think 803 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: we all agree that Josh has natural leadership skills. It 804 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,399 Speaker 1: just comes naturally to him. But I think the one 805 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: place where it developed even further last year, Brandon Bean 806 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 1: pointed to the Tampa Bay game and at halftime they're 807 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: down I think it was twenty seven to ten or something, 808 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: or twenty seven to three, and he basically demanded more 809 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: from the rest of the team and then made his 810 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 1: play the primary example of giving more, and the team 811 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: rallied and it went to overtime and they lost the 812 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: game in overtime. But you remember coach McDermott after the 813 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 1: game said I saw something in this team today. That 814 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: encourages me going forward. And Dawson Knox was asked about it, 815 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 1: but what Brandon Bean said initially was Josh is a 816 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: natural leader, but he's so respectful the veteran players on 817 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 1: this team that telling them what to do or how 818 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: it should be or what should be done. He was 819 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 1: trying not to step on those people's toes. Well, a 820 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: lot of those people aren't here anymore. Zo, Alexander, Kyle Williams, 821 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:07,439 Speaker 1: Joe run down the list, Jerry Hughes, and I think 822 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: he was hesitant to take full charge of the entire roster. 823 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: I think he had no problem leading the offense, but 824 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: the entire roster, offense, defense, special teams, demanding from everybody 825 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: we need more now. That's when it first went on 826 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,399 Speaker 1: as a light bulb, and the feedback he got was 827 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: we want more of that from his teammates. And after 828 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: that it was on. Like Donkey Kong, I remember the 829 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs gained the divisional playoff. There's a camera 830 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: shot at him coming to the sidelines and he's screaming 831 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 1: with his helmet off, let's go like like now is 832 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: the time to go here? And that's the step that 833 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 1: I think his development took and Knox addressed that he 834 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: talked about the Tampa game. It definitely was a turning 835 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 1: point and it kind of made us realize we needed 836 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: to just shift gears and really put the pedal to 837 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: the metal, like it was go time from there for 838 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: the rest of the season, because if you remember, they 839 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: were running out of time. Yeah, like their record was 840 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 1: like seven and five, seven and four at that point 841 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: in time. Yeah, and they ran the table the rest 842 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 1: after losing it, they lost one more game after that 843 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: they lost. Yeah, they were They finished twelve and five 844 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: in the regular season, so he but Knock said, I 845 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 1: think that game is a great representation of how we 846 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: can really turn it on what we need to. But 847 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: Josh was behind that. He's our MVP's our go to guy. 848 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,800 Speaker 1: He controls everything. There's a reason he gets paid what 849 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: he gets paid. He's our guy, he's the field general, 850 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 1: and everything's going to rally around him. I think that 851 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 1: was a everybody saw him as the leader, but I 852 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: think the team wanted him to be an even more 853 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 1: authoritative leader from that point going forward, like keep giving 854 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: us that because everybody needs it kind of thing. And 855 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 1: I don't know if he fully realized that, like they 856 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 1: want that from me, you know what I mean. I 857 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,919 Speaker 1: mean it might have been the first time too where 858 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 1: he decided to forget it. I'm not I don't care 859 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 1: who's toes, I step on, We're gonna win this game. Well. Uh, 860 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 1: and and that from there, you know, the team became 861 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: his shortly thereafter all of it, Like I said, not 862 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 1: just the offense, I think the way being presented it though, 863 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: he was surprised by the feedback he got back from 864 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 1: his teammates afterwards, like keep giving us more of that. 865 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: Oh okay, so this is a good thing. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, 866 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 1: he's a great he's a natural born leader. He's he's um. 867 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,879 Speaker 1: He has evolved into now one of he's the guy. 868 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: He's one of the veteran guys. I mean, there may 869 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 1: be a couple of older guys on the squad, but 870 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 1: they certainly aren't around this team any longer than he has. 871 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: Micah Hi, Jordan Poyer maybe, uh, but yeah, this is 872 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: Josh's team and he seems to be up to it 873 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: right in every way. Oh yeah, and that and I 874 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 1: think that Tampa Bay game, when when all is said 875 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 1: and done, when when the PostScript of his entire career 876 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: gets written. I'm I'm pretty sure Pep might look back 877 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: to that Tampa Bay game because it was against Tom 878 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: Brady and he won, and I think it was pretty odd. 879 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 1: Josh wanted to beat that guy and gave him every 880 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: chance to And if the officials wouldn't have swallowed their 881 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 1: whistle when Steph Diggs was getting mugged at the end 882 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 1: of that game, they were won that game more than 883 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 1: once in that game, right, it was three times, it 884 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 1: was three different times. So if the officials decide to 885 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,800 Speaker 1: go home, don't decide to go home early, the Bills 886 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: do win that game. But I think even so, when 887 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 1: it's all said and done and Josh is you know 888 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: my age, people are gonna look back on that Tampa 889 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 1: game and say, yeah, you know what, that's when it 890 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 1: kind of when he kind of took another maybe the 891 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 1: final step of being I would say the final step 892 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 1: is a good way to put that. Yeah, absolutely good 893 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: way to phrase that. We have to take a break here, 894 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 1: but when we come back, we're going to be bringing you. 895 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 1: The comments made by one aj Epinessa, who has an 896 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 1: awfully big third NFL season coming up for him this fall, 897 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 1: what steps has he taken in the off season to 898 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: make sure his production happens on a week by week basis, 899 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 1: not just here and there. We'll hear from aj next 900 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: here on One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health, It's 901 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. At a Steve Tasker who has been 902 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 1: all over the fields, kind of unique. He was kind 903 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 1: of a dual role player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. 904 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:42,800 Speaker 1: We're not even in the strategere of normalcy here, ah, 905 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: we're number two here with you, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker. 906 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 1: One Bills Live is the show, and we told you 907 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: before the break this is a pretty big season for 908 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:59,840 Speaker 1: one aj Epanessa. It's already been pointed out pretty clearly 909 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 1: by Leslie Frasier, by head coach Sean McDermott that the 910 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 1: young pass rushers on this roster, namely Boogie Basham, Greg 911 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 1: Russo aj Epinessa, have to bring better consistency of play 912 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 1: to the equation each and every week this season. How 913 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 1: do they intend to handle that? Here is aj Epinessa 914 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 1: addressing that, among other topics about season number three for 915 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,839 Speaker 1: him with the Buffalo Bills. I mean it was it 916 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 1: was awesome. It was a great experience to be there, 917 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: to be in person finally because of all the zoom calls. 918 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 1: I mean I had done a couple of years prior, 919 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: but just the Zoom call. But it was really cool 920 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 1: to be there meet a lot of the guys, a 921 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,439 Speaker 1: lot of the debts that have been around the block 922 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,760 Speaker 1: a couple of times and done stuff that other guys, 923 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 1: like young guys like myself strive to do. So it 924 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: was really cool to learn from them and just kind 925 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: of take some things away and try to implement it 926 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,760 Speaker 1: into my game as well. Let's stick out the most, 927 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, being at that camp that you would like 928 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,839 Speaker 1: to immulate and put into your game. I mean, those 929 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: guys were just so open on teaching everything they had 930 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 1: in their toolbox, whether it was their signers remove or 931 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: different counters that they work on, and just being able 932 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,320 Speaker 1: to see them work and to see them talk about 933 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,800 Speaker 1: the details of everything they do, like within their pass rush, 934 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: it kind of made me want to maybe lock in 935 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 1: a little bit more and see that there's these other 936 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 1: little details I can think about as well, and just 937 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: things that you know, I didn't really think about myself, 938 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 1: and they had to kind of just open my eyes 939 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: to it a little bit. J Sean didn't make any 940 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 1: I mean he came right out and said, this team 941 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 1: is depending for you and Greg and Boogie to think 942 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: more about consistent get back. What do you take from that? 943 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,919 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just something that we got to believe 944 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,880 Speaker 1: in ourselves and we have the confidence in ourselves and 945 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 1: know that we can make plays and we can take 946 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: that next step. That's really what it's about. And we're 947 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 1: all looking forward to this camp when when we get 948 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,320 Speaker 1: pads on, we can really show the strides we've taken. 949 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,839 Speaker 1: Boogie's lost some weight, Greg's gotten bigger and stronger. At myself, 950 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: I think I'm gotten bigger, faster, and stronger. So, I 951 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: mean all three of us have been putting in a 952 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 1: lot of work and we're excited to put pads on 953 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 1: and show people what we can do. They would use 954 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,360 Speaker 1: that word too, consistency, saying that that's what's what's been missing. 955 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 1: You know that, you guys, one week it will be 956 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: there and then maybe the next week to the next 957 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 1: practice it won't. So how do you find that consistency? 958 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 1: Um just kind of getting into a routine. I mean 959 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: that's been something we've been kind of struggling with but 960 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 1: um getting into that daily routine of you know, maybe 961 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 1: getting up and getting up early, getting our bodies ready 962 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 1: for practice, UM, and doing that little extra step like 963 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 1: I was saying earlier, to prepare us for each and 964 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 1: every day so that we can be as consistent as possible. 965 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,359 Speaker 1: You're first year and changing your body. I don't want 966 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: to say push your development bath it's been how much 967 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 1: did you have to play catch up even last year 968 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 1: because the first year was still based on un such 969 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 1: a drastic change right physically, Um, I mean it was 970 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 1: a it was a It was a weird change for 971 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: me just because you know, I went from being too 972 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 1: eighty to be in so much lighter. So I had 973 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 1: to change my style of rush. I had to change 974 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 1: my um my mindset with my rush where it couldn't 975 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 1: be just so brutish like it was that I where 976 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,399 Speaker 1: I was just doing a lot of power rushes, where now, um, 977 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,840 Speaker 1: I have to implement a little bit more of my 978 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 1: speed and other things as well, because tackles are more athletic, 979 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 1: they're just are overall in the in the league. So UM, 980 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,800 Speaker 1: just taking that next step in my game knowing UM, 981 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 1: what I had to do to change and um, things 982 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,799 Speaker 1: that work better for me now help you this year 983 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,439 Speaker 1: bodies where it needs to be, you know, to see 984 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 1: how in games you can use that differently? Do you 985 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,839 Speaker 1: feel like this really your first real spring board with 986 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 1: the version of a j Fanessa here in the NFL. 987 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I it's been a it's been a 988 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 1: weird two years. I mean, definitely having COVID in there 989 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 1: influencing the years. Um, but having that confidence of having 990 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 1: my body where it needs to be. UM, having the 991 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 1: defense down to where I know everything and not and 992 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 1: don't doubt myself within it. Um, just having that confidence 993 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: will help me play that much faster and that much smoother, 994 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,720 Speaker 1: to where you don't have to sit and think about stuff. 995 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 1: You can just play and have fun. So correct me, 996 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, But you my pretty recall you settled in 997 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: at two fifty five to two sixty mens year, right, 998 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,879 Speaker 1: and so this year are you is that? Where you're? Where? 999 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 1: Where are this year? Um? I waited yesterday at about 1000 00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: two sixty three, two sixty two, So UM, trying to 1001 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: stay within that two sixty to sixty five ranges probably 1002 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,760 Speaker 1: be more of my goal this season. And Boogie also 1003 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 1: he gonna like it. I like you in a different way. 1004 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 1: Last year, he's adjusting to that. They come in a pro. 1005 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 1: Why don't you gonna play inside? He's gonna play outside. 1006 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,799 Speaker 1: He gained a little way, so now he's sort of 1007 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,279 Speaker 1: settling in it with that. Oh yeah, no, I definitely would. 1008 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 1: Boogie has came and made strides and huge leaps. I mean, um, 1009 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 1: just compared from last year. I mean, he wasn't slow 1010 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 1: by any means last year, but we can tell that 1011 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 1: little he's got that extra twitch, that extra step that 1012 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 1: you can tell he's been working this offseason to improve 1013 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 1: his body, you know, so he can help our team 1014 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,000 Speaker 1: win and have success. So um, shout out to book 1015 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 1: for just I mean, putting all that work in and 1016 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 1: we can see that it's that it's working for him. 1017 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,239 Speaker 1: Taking up the numbers along the defensive line and the 1018 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,720 Speaker 1: guys and the guys they brought in and everything becomes 1019 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: the numbers game a little bit here as you start 1020 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,240 Speaker 1: getting in it. Really from training camp, how much pressure 1021 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 1: is on you to make sure you'd add a cam Um. 1022 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 1: I mean I would just approach this just like any 1023 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 1: other camp. I mean it's always competitive. There's always people 1024 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:00,360 Speaker 1: that are going to be brought in and you know, 1025 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: and and people are always looking the gun for spots. 1026 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: You know. It's just it's the nature of the business. 1027 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 1: So UM, my mindset is just an attack like every 1028 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 1: other CAMPUM, give it everything I got and just show 1029 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,840 Speaker 1: the coaches that I've improved. UM, and show them that 1030 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,839 Speaker 1: I can play and stuff like and and get like that. 1031 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,879 Speaker 1: You know, a little weight of expectations or or an 1032 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,280 Speaker 1: external pressure given a you know where you were drafted 1033 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 1: and that you are going into your third season. UM, 1034 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,319 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say any extra expectations other than you know, 1035 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 1: I have expectations for myself. I know the expectations from 1036 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 1: the coaches. Um. And so it's really just kind of 1037 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 1: I put it on myself to you know, try to 1038 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 1: be as consistent as I can and show up every 1039 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 1: day and do the best work I can every single day. 1040 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,840 Speaker 1: Other things like it needs to watch certain guys film 1041 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: now that you're playing slightly differently, like do watch other 1042 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 1: players or have there been other parts of preparation that 1043 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 1: have changed outside the field stuff. Um, I mean being 1044 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 1: in the training room a little bit more, you know, 1045 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,839 Speaker 1: kind of preparing my body for the day. UM. It's 1046 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 1: kind of something that I've done, um and done this 1047 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,439 Speaker 1: offseason to try to you know, warm myself up, get 1048 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,239 Speaker 1: myself loose, and get ready out of the game stead 1049 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 1: of kind of getting out there a little cold. Um. 1050 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,919 Speaker 1: And then I mean just going to that summit um 1051 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. I think it's already benefited 1052 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,959 Speaker 1: me with different rush tactics and stuff that I wanted 1053 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,279 Speaker 1: to implement myself, UM, and utilizing them the past couple 1054 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 1: of weeks, practicing them, trying to get them right for 1055 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 1: whenever camp does come around, and um, show that I've 1056 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 1: improved on those different aspects as well. Are you surprised 1057 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:24,240 Speaker 1: you can already feel? Um, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say surprised, 1058 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,040 Speaker 1: just because I mean, those guys were so prolific in 1059 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 1: what they do and in their position that um, I mean, 1060 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,200 Speaker 1: it was just so cool to learn from those guys 1061 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 1: that I mean, it's it's to implement what they do. 1062 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 1: It just kind of makes sense in my head to 1063 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 1: have through some of this together. Yeah. No, it's that 1064 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 1: we're like three musketeers. I mean we're we're like all 1065 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,480 Speaker 1: three of us were best friends. We hang out all 1066 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 1: the time, UM, and you'll see us at practice, we're 1067 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 1: bouncing ideas off each other. I mean when we went 1068 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 1: to Vegas, UM, we all stuck together the whole time. 1069 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 1: We were trying to figure it out and UM take 1070 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 1: notes and learn all these things from all these vets 1071 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,000 Speaker 1: that were there. So having Boogie and Greg is definitely. Uh, 1072 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 1: it's definitely nice to have a couple of guys there 1073 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 1: that aren't veterans that are kind of in the same 1074 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 1: position as you. When the season ended until you reported 1075 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,280 Speaker 1: for OTAs, what's that period like for you as you 1076 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 1: like reflect on your first two years Because I remember 1077 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 1: talking to you when you got drafted me you have 1078 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 1: high expectations coming into the league. Is it like, was 1079 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 1: there any frustration this offseason or was it just working 1080 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 1: to get better? Um? I wouldn't No, I definitely wouldn't 1081 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 1: say frustration, but um, working to get better as always 1082 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,720 Speaker 1: my mindset. UM. I had spent this this this early 1083 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 1: part of the off season down in Florida. UM, I 1084 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 1: wanted to get out of the cold a little bit, 1085 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 1: so I went and hit down there in Florida. UM. 1086 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 1: But I trained down there, and it's just my mindset is, 1087 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 1: you know, I gotta get bigger. I gotta get faster, um. 1088 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 1: And that's all I could think about whenever I got 1089 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,560 Speaker 1: back to Florida and training down there, um, and and 1090 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 1: tried to get back here at bigger, faster, stronger and 1091 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 1: proof to them that I was working during the off season. 1092 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 1: Is there anywhere anybody that help with that on there? Um? 1093 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 1: You know, I lived my sister. You know, my sister 1094 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 1: is a very smart individual, and she takes her nutrition 1095 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 1: very seriously, and so she was a huge help for 1096 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 1: me when it came to extra calories and my nutrition. 1097 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,280 Speaker 1: When it came to my diet, she was there to 1098 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,440 Speaker 1: kind of supplement me and give me this, like, hey 1099 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,640 Speaker 1: eat that. Nope, okay, here, now we need to eat this, 1100 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 1: and hey we're about to go do that. And like 1101 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,240 Speaker 1: as much as it seems like she was holding my hand, 1102 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, while we're there, but it was nice to 1103 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 1: have her there and to spend time with her and 1104 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,320 Speaker 1: basically have her as a nutritionist as well to support 1105 00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 1: that part of my relationship with her growing up. Oh yeah, 1106 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 1: me And I mean, as you guys have heard, me 1107 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 1: and my siblings and my family were all very tight knit, 1108 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 1: very close, and it wasn't weird at all. You know, 1109 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,400 Speaker 1: to have my sister in a position like that, It 1110 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,720 Speaker 1: was actually almost reassuring, knowing that my sister's in one 1111 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 1: doing I don't have to think about anybody else. It's 1112 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 1: my family, it's my blood. She's the one who's helping me, 1113 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 1: and she really cares about it, being an athlete that 1114 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,040 Speaker 1: you are. Now we do understand that your AU teammate 1115 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 1: Jason Tantum is playing in Game six in the NBA Finals. 1116 00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Have you got any at tips or any a biasement 1117 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,959 Speaker 1: for AU teammate? Any tips? I don't know. I would 1118 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 1: definitely like to take tips from him on how to 1119 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 1: play basketball, but no, it's definitely awesome watching him play. 1120 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 1: If anyone deserves it's definitely Jason. All right. So that's 1121 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 1: a j. E. Panessa addressing the media. And you know, 1122 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 1: we talked about it last year. Steve. He had to 1123 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 1: dramatically change his body composition from playing at about two 1124 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 1: eighty at Iowa where he was just power rushing the 1125 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:33,160 Speaker 1: hell out of people and succeeding pretty easily at that 1126 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 1: at Iowa, and then after year one here the strength 1127 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 1: and conditioning staff huddles up with him and said, you 1128 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,160 Speaker 1: gotta get down to two sixty you got to drop 1129 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 1: twenty pounds. And not only did he have to change 1130 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 1: his body composition, he had to change his whole approach 1131 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,960 Speaker 1: to pass rushing. It was a completely new slate for 1132 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 1: him last year, and I think that speaks to why 1133 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,200 Speaker 1: there were inconsistencies in the production that this team got 1134 01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 1: from him. He was literally learning on the fly how 1135 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 1: to in a completely different way, with completely different moves, 1136 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:07,200 Speaker 1: completely different techniques, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. And now he's saying 1137 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 1: he wants to be somewhere between two sixty and two 1138 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 1: sixty five. He waited in his last day of minicamp 1139 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 1: at two sixty three, and I think he feels like 1140 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 1: he has stuff in his toolbox now that he knows 1141 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:24,920 Speaker 1: will work after the last year of experience. Yeah. I 1142 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:29,280 Speaker 1: saw him play live when he was at Iowa, and 1143 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 1: he was thick. He was a big dude. Yeah, and 1144 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,800 Speaker 1: you know he had that ability too. And when he 1145 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 1: when the Bills drafted him, you and I had talked 1146 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 1: about he was so big that we thought he would 1147 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 1: have flexibility to move down inside because he was so 1148 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:48,280 Speaker 1: tall and so heavy. And then somewhere in the middle 1149 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 1: of his rookie year. You know, you go, you and 1150 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 1: I were doing the show and we're doing all this stuff. 1151 01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 1: All of a sudden you pop out in the practice 1152 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 1: field and you see him. It's like, wait a minute, 1153 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 1: And he had dropped singing and a significant amount of weight, 1154 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 1: and that was between like he almost lost it too soon, 1155 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 1: too fast, right, And so he was like he was 1156 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 1: playing like a different guy and had to play like 1157 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 1: a different guy because his tool set had changed. So 1158 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:14,840 Speaker 1: then this last year he came back and he was 1159 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,600 Speaker 1: kind of kind of held it together. But I'm kind 1160 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 1: of with you, this is a big year for him, 1161 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,320 Speaker 1: and I think he has every reason to be optimistic 1162 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,160 Speaker 1: that now he's it's more normal. He's he's been a 1163 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's a routine for him. He's got games 1164 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 1: under his belt at that size, like that's maybe the 1165 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,320 Speaker 1: most important thing. And it's also an off season where 1166 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,280 Speaker 1: he's not doing it again. You know, he doesn't have 1167 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 1: to get used to it, or he had doesn't have 1168 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 1: to drop it in the first another change. It's not 1169 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 1: another change. So um, yeah, he has every reason to 1170 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 1: believe he's he's gonna have a little bit of a 1171 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:49,600 Speaker 1: springboard year here and with von Miller, and plus putting 1172 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 1: the extra work in out there and which you know 1173 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:55,360 Speaker 1: all these guys do. That's I think that's going to 1174 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 1: be really intriguing to watch him work and see how 1175 01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 1: he plays. I wanted to pick your prain on this 1176 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,919 Speaker 1: object because he talked about he Boogie Basham and Greg 1177 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,080 Speaker 1: Rousseau are like the three Musketeers. They travel in the 1178 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:10,840 Speaker 1: same circles. They bounce ideas off of one another. Did 1179 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:17,400 Speaker 1: you ever really have a group at your position, similar 1180 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,880 Speaker 1: in age, similar in NFL experience, that you could run 1181 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 1: with and basically try to advance each other's games by 1182 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 1: leaning on one another, Because it seems like that's what 1183 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 1: these three guys are doing, right I was. I was 1184 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,080 Speaker 1: playing special Teams. Yeah, it was interesting because it was 1185 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,760 Speaker 1: a little different dynamic. I was hanging around with Mark Pike, 1186 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,560 Speaker 1: who was six four, two sixty, you know, and car 1187 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,960 Speaker 1: World Gardner, and then also Chris Hale, who's actually even 1188 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,560 Speaker 1: smaller than me. So we had a crew of guys 1189 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,800 Speaker 1: Jamie Mueller and they kind of rolled through there at 1190 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 1: different times. We had a core group and we would 1191 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 1: talk more not so much, well a little bit, I 1192 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 1: guess about how we're going to take a guy on 1193 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,400 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do, because you know the way I 1194 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:57,680 Speaker 1: did things when I was covering kick, you know you 1195 01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,400 Speaker 1: would I would do it differently than car or Mark 1196 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,320 Speaker 1: Pike because they had a different skill set, but you 1197 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 1: still had conversations about what was important. So and by 1198 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:09,720 Speaker 1: that I mean like this, if I'm coming down and 1199 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 1: you got a guy and aj Epanessa Russo and all 1200 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 1: these guys are the exact same way. They know their 1201 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,360 Speaker 1: their idea is to get behind the guy into the 1202 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 1: quarterback space. Yeah, that's kind of the goal. Same thing 1203 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 1: for us when we're coming to the guy. The goal 1204 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:21,920 Speaker 1: for us is to get on the other side of 1205 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 1: the block and not and him and the guy in 1206 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:29,440 Speaker 1: the running back. And so however you do that, you 1207 01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 1: kind of have to apply your skill set to the guy, right. 1208 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:36,640 Speaker 1: But my question is, in an ultimate team sport like football, 1209 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,880 Speaker 1: how much does that group think that it appears these 1210 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,680 Speaker 1: three guys have together and they have a lot in 1211 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,520 Speaker 1: common obviously coming out around the same time. Does that apply? 1212 01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,280 Speaker 1: Does it serve you well when you when you kind 1213 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,240 Speaker 1: of attack it as a group, and you know what 1214 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 1: I mean, like just you don't always see this because 1215 01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,120 Speaker 1: it's nice because then you get some confidence that you're 1216 01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:58,920 Speaker 1: you're seeing it the right way or they see it 1217 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,600 Speaker 1: the same way everybody else. Yeah, So like when you're 1218 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 1: and you're talking about some really specific conversations about not 1219 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,880 Speaker 1: just what you're trying to do, but the guy you're 1220 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 1: actually going to play against that way, those kind of 1221 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 1: conversations like listen against this guy against you know, Richmond Webb, 1222 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,600 Speaker 1: Bruce and Phil Hanson and Darryl Talley and Conny has 1223 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,560 Speaker 1: been or are having these conversations about our Richmond day 1224 01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 1: he does it. His hands are really get to stay 1225 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 1: away from you can't you can't get in on him. 1226 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,440 Speaker 1: You can't let him get in on you if he 1227 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,560 Speaker 1: gets two hands on your that kind of stuff. Yeah, 1228 01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 1: And so you work on that and you talk about it, 1229 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 1: and it reminds, you know, you remind you of during 1230 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 1: the game. You can't let the guy you know, get 1231 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:39,320 Speaker 1: to your body. Conversations like that that are really specific 1232 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 1: to each matchup. Um, certainly in general when you go 1233 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,920 Speaker 1: to these pass rushing camps, I'm sure that tight end 1234 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,960 Speaker 1: you is the same way where they can get you know, 1235 01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,000 Speaker 1: if their guy does this, you do this, you know, 1236 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,200 Speaker 1: hand placement and all that but a lot of it 1237 01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,960 Speaker 1: comes down to the differences these guys have in the 1238 01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 1: way they attack and the way they are able to 1239 01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,760 Speaker 1: do it. Like aj maybe wronger than Rousseau or vice versa, 1240 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,280 Speaker 1: and Boogie may be faster, and because he's shorter, he 1241 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,640 Speaker 1: has to do things differently, and those skill sets have 1242 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,600 Speaker 1: to be applied to the same guy that they're rushing. 1243 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I had some guys like that 1244 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,040 Speaker 1: we run and we'd have long conversations like that. But 1245 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 1: it's interesting too because a Japanessa, Greg Russo, Boogie bash 1246 01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,520 Speaker 1: him and the rest of him will talk about stuff 1247 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,440 Speaker 1: like that, about stuff like that, the thing that they 1248 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 1: do that we none of us can do. And this 1249 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:34,440 Speaker 1: speaks to the team nature of it. A Japanessa knows 1250 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,160 Speaker 1: Greg Russou as well as Greg Russo does, and Greg 1251 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 1: Russo knows Boogie bashments Boogie. They they're together all the time. 1252 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,400 Speaker 1: They watch each other on film, They see the coaches 1253 01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,680 Speaker 1: coaching him, they hear they have conversations with him, by 1254 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,160 Speaker 1: what he was thinking, what he's doing. They know him, 1255 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 1: so they can really help him in a way. Sometimes 1256 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,280 Speaker 1: a coach can't or somebody in that outside that room 1257 01:06:55,360 --> 01:07:00,200 Speaker 1: can't Yeah, because they've walked his journey with him through training, 1258 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,040 Speaker 1: can through two years of his career. And that's kind 1259 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:03,800 Speaker 1: of what I was asking and getting that, Like, that's 1260 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 1: gotta help every Yeah, and you all three of them, 1261 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:07,920 Speaker 1: you trust and love each other, and you know they 1262 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:09,960 Speaker 1: got your bet, they got yet man, no herecause I 1263 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,760 Speaker 1: gotta think like that. It's really a good atmosphere. Right. 1264 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,520 Speaker 1: This is an example that I'm thinking of. You're at 1265 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 1: practice and AJ goes out there, does a rep against 1266 01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins. Okay, and maybe he wins on the initial move, 1267 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,760 Speaker 1: but for some reason gets hung up on something and 1268 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,680 Speaker 1: can't get there to the quarterback in time. Before the 1269 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,160 Speaker 1: ball's out, he knows that Greg and Boogie are watching him, 1270 01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:32,640 Speaker 1: and he can come to the sideline and say, hey, 1271 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,040 Speaker 1: I had him beat on that first move. What the 1272 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,240 Speaker 1: heck happened? Did you see that? And they can give 1273 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:40,600 Speaker 1: him feedback. Sometimes. Sure, that's all helpful. I think they 1274 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,160 Speaker 1: can do that, but a lot of times it's hard 1275 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,400 Speaker 1: to even for guys. What they'll do is and this 1276 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:46,919 Speaker 1: is what they do when they're not on the practice field. 1277 01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:48,520 Speaker 1: They're sitting in a room watching it on film, and 1278 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,160 Speaker 1: they're on the back run it back run the bag. 1279 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:51,960 Speaker 1: Why'd you put your hand here? And if you put 1280 01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:55,000 Speaker 1: your foot, if you if you'd linked in that one 1281 01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,640 Speaker 1: stride right here, you gotta you know what I'm saying. 1282 01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,680 Speaker 1: They're talking about foot placement, the direct or your step, 1283 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:02,680 Speaker 1: how your foot comes down on the ground, whether it's 1284 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:09,520 Speaker 1: a toe or flat footed. It's unbelievable. I give you 1285 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,360 Speaker 1: an example before. I got a minute or two before 1286 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 1: we go to break. So we're in New York and 1287 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm I think I remember this right. I could be 1288 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,240 Speaker 1: messed up, but I know some of it is right on. 1289 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,719 Speaker 1: Bruce goes into New York on a Monday night football 1290 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,800 Speaker 1: game in New York and Trevor Matich is gonna have 1291 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,680 Speaker 1: to play left tackle for the Jets, and he's we 1292 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,679 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know who Trevor is at that time, 1293 01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, and we don't know if he's going to 1294 01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,200 Speaker 1: be up to the task or not. And this is 1295 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 1: somewhere in the regular Sey. This is not like Week 1296 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:43,519 Speaker 1: one or anything like that. Bruce goes in. This is 1297 01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,240 Speaker 1: the night he gets like four sacks on Monday night football, right, 1298 01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,560 Speaker 1: and he is just like crushing this guy. And what 1299 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,639 Speaker 1: happens is he's got this move, this rip spin move 1300 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 1: that he doesn't even use until that night. So it's 1301 01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:06,000 Speaker 1: not on film anywhere. Nobody's seen it. Yeah, like Ken 1302 01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,720 Speaker 1: O'Brien or whoever the quarterback was, ends up in the 1303 01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:13,120 Speaker 1: ice bath for a week because Bruce unfurls. This new 1304 01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,680 Speaker 1: move ain't nobody's seen. And Bruce, yeah, think about like, 1305 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,519 Speaker 1: you got this move you think is gonna like do it. 1306 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,479 Speaker 1: He doesn't use it. He doesn't use it. And this 1307 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:27,360 Speaker 1: is this is why Bruce's a first ballot. He does 1308 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,960 Speaker 1: it on Monday night football. Not only do we see it, 1309 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,920 Speaker 1: the whole world saw it at the same time, and 1310 01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 1: he just absolutely he breaks up the game. Yeah, you know, 1311 01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 1: and so stuff like that. And I know like Teddy Cantrelle, 1312 01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,439 Speaker 1: who was here yesterday, is part of that like like 1313 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:51,800 Speaker 1: conversation and it's you know, Bruce's athleticism allows him to 1314 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,400 Speaker 1: do that. So if you talked about Marcel Marcel's wiley, 1315 01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:55,720 Speaker 1: he says, not only he told me how to do it, 1316 01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,479 Speaker 1: and I couldn't do it. I fell down. I couldn't 1317 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,519 Speaker 1: I couldn't do what he did. Right, So so Bruce 1318 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,439 Speaker 1: is in there and he's right. I mean, you see 1319 01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 1: Bruce come off the ball and he's here's a guy, 1320 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,560 Speaker 1: he's two sixty when he's when he's leaning me. He 1321 01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 1: came into the league at three fifteen, gets down to 1322 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,519 Speaker 1: two sixties. So Aja Panessa, Yeah, it's even way more 1323 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:19,400 Speaker 1: than right. So Bruce comes in and he comes off 1324 01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 1: the ball and he gets into the offensive lineman. He's 1325 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,040 Speaker 1: leaning at a forty five degree angle, running full speed, 1326 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,479 Speaker 1: and the guy's got a kind of brace for that, 1327 01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,760 Speaker 1: and Bruce braces to hit Bruce, and Bruce ain't there. 1328 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:34,960 Speaker 1: He's not there. Um, those those things don't just they're 1329 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:38,280 Speaker 1: just not all. Bruce Smith's just better athlete than everybody else. 1330 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,280 Speaker 1: He is. But that's not why that move works. The 1331 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,760 Speaker 1: move works because he's had conversations with Ted Catrell and 1332 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,439 Speaker 1: Phil Hanson, Darryl Talley, Cornelie's Bennett and those guys says, 1333 01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:48,640 Speaker 1: what are you thinking about this? And he's talked to 1334 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:52,000 Speaker 1: Will Woolford as well, the Bills left tackle, and Will's 1335 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,800 Speaker 1: talking to him about it. All of a sudden, you 1336 01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,640 Speaker 1: win a game because of it. Yeah, maybe maybe more 1337 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:00,680 Speaker 1: than that. You know, what what did you make of 1338 01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,720 Speaker 1: aj saying that something that he's put into his preparation 1339 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,599 Speaker 1: for practice is getting himself warmed up in the training room. Now, 1340 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,320 Speaker 1: he didn't get into specifics, but before he goes out 1341 01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,400 Speaker 1: to the practice field, he's going into the training room 1342 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:19,360 Speaker 1: to get himself warmed up because he doesn't like going 1343 01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,160 Speaker 1: out there and getting a little cold before they're really 1344 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:28,679 Speaker 1: ramped up into practice. Um, the training room, I don't. 1345 01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. Did guys go into the training room 1346 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,720 Speaker 1: to warm up? You go to get taped up? But listen, man, 1347 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:35,759 Speaker 1: I hadn't. I was, I was in a leather helmet. 1348 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:40,479 Speaker 1: I didn't compared to that. I hadn't heard that go 1349 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,400 Speaker 1: out to practice to warm up? Yeah, no, that's next, lettle, 1350 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,080 Speaker 1: Like what are you doing wrapping on holes around your legs? 1351 01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:47,760 Speaker 1: Or like you want to know why they you want 1352 01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,599 Speaker 1: to know why they this team plays? Well, that's it. Man. 1353 01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,120 Speaker 1: You got guys warming up to go out and warm up. Yeah, 1354 01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,880 Speaker 1: it's you gotta be you gotta be committed. That's that 1355 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,040 Speaker 1: prehab that they talk and they also and also this 1356 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:05,040 Speaker 1: brownie think about you got kids do it? You got 1357 01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:08,120 Speaker 1: like twelve thirteen year old kids that don't like to practice, 1358 01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:12,400 Speaker 1: you know whatever, it's born. These guys aren't. Aren't those 1359 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,639 Speaker 1: aren't like that. They like to stretch and do whatever 1360 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,200 Speaker 1: they want to get better, and they know practices how 1361 01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,960 Speaker 1: they do it. So they're going out there with an 1362 01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,960 Speaker 1: appetite to learn and an appetite to work. This isn't 1363 01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:31,680 Speaker 1: like loafing through drills in junior high. These guys are 1364 01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 1: going out there to get better. That right there is 1365 01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:38,800 Speaker 1: indicative of why this club and guys on it are 1366 01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,880 Speaker 1: the favorites to win the Super Bowl. That attitude, Now, 1367 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:42,360 Speaker 1: they're not the only ones. I mean, there's a lot 1368 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,160 Speaker 1: of guys around the league, other teams that are in 1369 01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,560 Speaker 1: the same kind of thing, But that that is indicative 1370 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,600 Speaker 1: of how it's a how much different the club the 1371 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:50,240 Speaker 1: league is now than it was when I play. It's 1372 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:55,840 Speaker 1: a collective expectation here. It's it's a compete, an extremely 1373 01:12:56,240 --> 01:13:02,479 Speaker 1: professional atmosphere. Yeah, extremely professional compete in practice. I'll just 1374 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,720 Speaker 1: come out and practice that, going into the training room 1375 01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:10,840 Speaker 1: and getting warmed up to get up. Jack Kemp would 1376 01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:16,639 Speaker 1: laugh at you. You know what I mean? Yeah, Eddie Ridcowsking, 1377 01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:18,400 Speaker 1: those guys are what you can Paul McGuire, are you 1378 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,360 Speaker 1: kidding me? Stretching what he would pop a cold one 1379 01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,400 Speaker 1: before you go out. Well, I mean, come on, I mean, 1380 01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,120 Speaker 1: it's just not It wasn't ever done. And now you 1381 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,599 Speaker 1: got these guys doing that. It's it gives you an 1382 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,840 Speaker 1: idea of how serious their craft is and how serious 1383 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,600 Speaker 1: they take it. It's you know, you gotta tip your 1384 01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,280 Speaker 1: hat to you guys like that. We step aside here. 1385 01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,280 Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll get your comments on the 1386 01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:42,360 Speaker 1: tweet sheet. What did you miss most about training camp? 1387 01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,640 Speaker 1: Now that the training camp dates are released, you can 1388 01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,639 Speaker 1: look at them all on Buffalo bills dot com. July 1389 01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,280 Speaker 1: twenty fourth is your first practice, first time at Fisher 1390 01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,640 Speaker 1: in three years due to the pandemic. What do you 1391 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,280 Speaker 1: miss most? Let us know eight three, five fifty or 1392 01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,360 Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet At one Bills Live, we're back 1393 01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:11,840 Speaker 1: in a flash seeing a second. All right, welcome back 1394 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,680 Speaker 1: to one Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, 1395 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,439 Speaker 1: and the Browns have made a move in terms of 1396 01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:23,360 Speaker 1: a hiring. They announced the former Eagles executive Katherine Raisch 1397 01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,880 Speaker 1: as their assistant GM and Vice president of football Operations. 1398 01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:32,360 Speaker 1: So that would make her the highest ranking female employee 1399 01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:35,360 Speaker 1: in an NFL front office. I believe in the league 1400 01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:40,240 Speaker 1: if I am not mistaken, So congrats to her as 1401 01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,120 Speaker 1: the Browns move forward with a with a hiring there 1402 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:50,519 Speaker 1: um highest what ranking female employee in an NFL front office, 1403 01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:54,120 Speaker 1: So Kim Kim doesn't apply to I think in terms 1404 01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,599 Speaker 1: of like the personnel side of an organization. League's got 1405 01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:05,200 Speaker 1: some high ranking females in the absolutely. Yeah. Interesting. He 1406 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:09,599 Speaker 1: used to be Amy Trask was the loan executive. That's right, right, 1407 01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,639 Speaker 1: there was a time where she was the lone wolf 1408 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,720 Speaker 1: if you will. Yeah, good for them, Yeah, so a 1409 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:18,280 Speaker 1: good hire for them. We had a comment on the 1410 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,120 Speaker 1: tweet sheet. We wanted to pass along to you what 1411 01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,439 Speaker 1: you missed most about Bill's training camp at Saint John 1412 01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,639 Speaker 1: Fisher and tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, 1413 01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,120 Speaker 1: the official equipment moving company in the Buffalo Bills Betty says, 1414 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:32,240 Speaker 1: I worked at Fisher some years ago, feeding the guys 1415 01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 1: in the cafeteria. I found it interesting how closely diets 1416 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:40,040 Speaker 1: are monitored, working with dietitians to make custom smoothies for 1417 01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:44,400 Speaker 1: an evening snack, color coded labels for foods, etc. Quite 1418 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:48,439 Speaker 1: a learning experience, Go Bills. I do remember under a 1419 01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:52,000 Speaker 1: couple of previous regimes, they used to have foods color coded, 1420 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,400 Speaker 1: like red was higher and fat, and then they had 1421 01:15:55,560 --> 01:16:01,040 Speaker 1: yellow and green, different kind of mark for what you 1422 01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:02,960 Speaker 1: were looking for. You want heavy cars and go to 1423 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:07,960 Speaker 1: this color you know, designation. Trying it as simple as possible. Yeah, 1424 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,200 Speaker 1: and they might even tell you you can have like 1425 01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,200 Speaker 1: two yellows and one red before the next practice, like 1426 01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,559 Speaker 1: one of those deals. And so I don't know how 1427 01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,240 Speaker 1: effective they deemed that to be. It's different now. You know, 1428 01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,360 Speaker 1: each new coaching regime kind of has their own way 1429 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,920 Speaker 1: of doing things. But this is pretty advanced. A tweet 1430 01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,479 Speaker 1: from Betty who just said that it's along with what 1431 01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,559 Speaker 1: lines of what we've been talking about. These guys are 1432 01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:31,599 Speaker 1: they really are. The money has gotten to the point 1433 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,360 Speaker 1: where these guys the really good was like von Miller, 1434 01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:40,080 Speaker 1: Josh certainly, Tom Brady, all these guys they're businesses, you know, 1435 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:44,080 Speaker 1: they're their body is their business. Yeah, and they treat 1436 01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:48,920 Speaker 1: it as such. They maintain it. And Lebron James invests 1437 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,479 Speaker 1: a million dollars in his body every offseason. Well yeah, 1438 01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean some guys do that. Um, it's been going 1439 01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,320 Speaker 1: on for a while. Certain guys have done it now 1440 01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,160 Speaker 1: and that's one of the things we've talked about as well, 1441 01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:03,600 Speaker 1: that biosophy. While some guys wanted to do it and 1442 01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,040 Speaker 1: he couldn't. You know, not everybody has a million dollars 1443 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:10,240 Speaker 1: just to throw in their body, right. But and maybe 1444 01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,720 Speaker 1: it's speaks to what the bills of God going on 1445 01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,240 Speaker 1: here and why they're so healthy that this training of 1446 01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:21,160 Speaker 1: the ad Pro Sports Training Center, the staff here helps 1447 01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,800 Speaker 1: more guys further down the roster to do exactly what 1448 01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,240 Speaker 1: we're talking about, so they don't have to do it 1449 01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:28,960 Speaker 1: on their own dime. They can come in them do 1450 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,720 Speaker 1: it here. It's incentive. It's a couple of it's a 1451 01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,479 Speaker 1: win win for a couple of reasons. One, you get 1452 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:37,439 Speaker 1: more guys playing at a high level with better maintained bodies. 1453 01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:42,000 Speaker 1: And two, there's more incentive of them for them to 1454 01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,519 Speaker 1: spend time around here where they can be in the 1455 01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,559 Speaker 1: building and they can be monitored and they can keep 1456 01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:51,200 Speaker 1: track of them better. Yep. So it's a win win. 1457 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,160 Speaker 1: It's a win for the club, and it's a win 1458 01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:55,080 Speaker 1: for the guys because they're you know, they don't have 1459 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:59,559 Speaker 1: to spend the money to do it themselves. Then try 1460 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,120 Speaker 1: and find that you gotta find the right acupuncture. You 1461 01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,840 Speaker 1: gotta find it. Someplace's gotta cry with you, gotta find 1462 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:09,840 Speaker 1: somebody who does you know, masus. You gotta find everything, uh, 1463 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:15,639 Speaker 1: you know, hyperbaric chambers, all that, right cryotherapy. So when 1464 01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,200 Speaker 1: they can do it here, it just takes all that 1465 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,519 Speaker 1: out of the I mean, it's like just a huge, 1466 01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,960 Speaker 1: huge thing off your plate. That makes you a better 1467 01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,479 Speaker 1: ball player, a better athlete. If you were less time 1468 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,720 Speaker 1: driving around finding all these places. It just makes your 1469 01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,160 Speaker 1: logistics so much easier because you got one stop shopping 1470 01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:34,240 Speaker 1: right here, right, And that's I think that was I 1471 01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:38,840 Speaker 1: guess a huge, huge step that you can lay you know, 1472 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,360 Speaker 1: the idea. Obviously, the inspirations lay to right right at 1473 01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,840 Speaker 1: the feet of Sean McDermott and Brandon Beating. They got one, 1474 01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:47,320 Speaker 1: and then of course the ever present you know Terry, 1475 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:53,200 Speaker 1: He's like, okay and write the check. Right. That's huge 1476 01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,000 Speaker 1: to say the least. It is big, no question about it. 1477 01:18:56,120 --> 01:19:00,280 Speaker 1: Gotta have somebody's at the top. It's gonna say him okay. Yeah, 1478 01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,400 Speaker 1: And that doesn't always happen, as we've seen here in 1479 01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,400 Speaker 1: decades back. Yes we have. We are going to move 1480 01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:08,599 Speaker 1: on to a little NFL True Fall Steve, which, as 1481 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, is brought to you by Yancy's Fancy New 1482 01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:15,479 Speaker 1: York's artists in Cheese and first on the docket today 1483 01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:20,240 Speaker 1: for NFL True Fall Steve. Stephan Diggs is the one 1484 01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:26,519 Speaker 1: non quarterback player the Bills cannot afford to lose. True 1485 01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:33,800 Speaker 1: or false non quarterback, it's pretty close to being true. 1486 01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:37,200 Speaker 1: I would think he might be the I mean, there's 1487 01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys you don't want to lose, yes, 1488 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:45,400 Speaker 1: but I would think he is most difficult to replace. Yeah, 1489 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,439 Speaker 1: some of the guys, even the atmosphere where the league is. Now, 1490 01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:50,640 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I mean, he might be able to, like, 1491 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,640 Speaker 1: he may be able to whatever blow is acl a 1492 01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:55,479 Speaker 1: day after the Super Bowl and be unavailable for the 1493 01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,320 Speaker 1: next season. But if you have time, you can draft 1494 01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,479 Speaker 1: somebody like right, you can draft guy, or you can 1495 01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:01,840 Speaker 1: trade for guy. You can pick a guy up in 1496 01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:07,880 Speaker 1: free agency. But to have him disappear, now, yeah, that's 1497 01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,800 Speaker 1: a that's a hole you can't feel. I think one 1498 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,920 Speaker 1: are the other guys I might put in the conversation. 1499 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:16,559 Speaker 1: The only other guy I might put in the conversation 1500 01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:20,600 Speaker 1: might be like a Dion Dawkins. Um. Yes, you have 1501 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,920 Speaker 1: depth on the offensive line. Do you have a guy 1502 01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,880 Speaker 1: that caliber though to play the blindside? I don't know 1503 01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:31,280 Speaker 1: that you do yet, so he might be a consideration. 1504 01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:34,479 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it's Diggs. I would say, true, Um, 1505 01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:39,479 Speaker 1: you have other receiving talent here, but right I think 1506 01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,800 Speaker 1: it's at that level. I think, yeah, it's not like 1507 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have anybody to line up. But I think 1508 01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,760 Speaker 1: the drop off to the next guy. Yeah, that's the 1509 01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:51,360 Speaker 1: thing is more significant. Actually, it wouldn't be the next guy. 1510 01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,760 Speaker 1: The next guy would be Gabe Davis. But the guy 1511 01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:57,760 Speaker 1: coming in off the bench, whether it's Kaier Um not, 1512 01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:03,599 Speaker 1: whether it's Khalil Shaquire or Jamison Crowd or whoever it's 1513 01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:09,840 Speaker 1: drop there is big. Uh. I mean even like like say, 1514 01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,880 Speaker 1: for instance, okay, so now Dion Dokin sits down or 1515 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,639 Speaker 1: he you know, uh, he probably got some pretty good 1516 01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:18,439 Speaker 1: guys on the in there. You've got some guys that 1517 01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:25,000 Speaker 1: are able to play outside even Spencer Brown maybe. Um, 1518 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,560 Speaker 1: you think about who Tremaine Edmonds, you know, he's the 1519 01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,160 Speaker 1: guy that calls him defense. He might you know, Micah 1520 01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,759 Speaker 1: Hyde Poyer maybe one of those guys, both of him certainly, 1521 01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it's a single player. That's a 1522 01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:41,839 Speaker 1: good call. I'd have to say true NFL true falls 1523 01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:48,960 Speaker 1: numero dose. Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes are the top 1524 01:21:49,520 --> 01:22:00,280 Speaker 1: duo in the NFL head coach quarterback m h. I'm 1525 01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:02,360 Speaker 1: thinking of one other off the top of my head 1526 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,760 Speaker 1: that I might maybe, uh, and you know, and I 1527 01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:07,960 Speaker 1: like Josh as a quarterback better. I don't know that, 1528 01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:15,080 Speaker 1: but Sean's a defensive guy. Um maybe Lafleur and the 1529 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,280 Speaker 1: one I was thinking of, yeah, maybe, and Rogers the 1530 01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,320 Speaker 1: floor and Rodgers I think are in the conversation. You 1531 01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,560 Speaker 1: might even put McVeigh and Stafford in the convergence. I 1532 01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:23,479 Speaker 1: was thinking them too, That's who came to my mind. 1533 01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:27,400 Speaker 1: I think those are probably the two pair you would 1534 01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:31,439 Speaker 1: consider if you wanted to put anybody up against Reid 1535 01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:38,920 Speaker 1: and Mahomes, m Brady and Left which that's too new 1536 01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:47,360 Speaker 1: to really count toward this. Yeah, I mean those are 1537 01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:52,439 Speaker 1: probably the only other two. Um so is Read and 1538 01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:57,080 Speaker 1: Mahomes better than Lafleur and Rogers better than McVeigh and Stafford. 1539 01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:02,240 Speaker 1: Who else would it be? I don't for a combo, 1540 01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,559 Speaker 1: I don't know that. I mean, I could you could 1541 01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,599 Speaker 1: have made a you could have made a comment um 1542 01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:12,120 Speaker 1: an argument for Bruce Arians and Tom Brady, but Bruce 1543 01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:13,880 Speaker 1: isn't there. Yeah, I still don't know if I would 1544 01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:17,360 Speaker 1: have though. Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying and yeah, 1545 01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,840 Speaker 1: and now that Sean Payton is not in New Orleans 1546 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,559 Speaker 1: with right, you know, all those those guys are retired. 1547 01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:28,639 Speaker 1: I mean Kingsbury and Kyler Murray, I don't know, not really. 1548 01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,800 Speaker 1: I mean there, they certainly are a good tandem. They 1549 01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:35,679 Speaker 1: work well together. I just don't know that they've achieved 1550 01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,639 Speaker 1: as much as the repairs that we've mentioned. I'd say 1551 01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:40,400 Speaker 1: that's probably true as well. I mean you could you 1552 01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,880 Speaker 1: could split hairs and say Nas Rodgers floor maybe because listen, 1553 01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,200 Speaker 1: Rogers and Fleure the only team in NFL history I 1554 01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,360 Speaker 1: backed back thirteen win seasons. That's pretty good. Now they 1555 01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:53,400 Speaker 1: didn't make the Super Bowl, right, Yeah, where did he 1556 01:23:53,439 --> 01:24:01,440 Speaker 1: get him? Yeah, I'm gonna say, based on the longevity 1557 01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:05,519 Speaker 1: of Reid's career, I will say true, and I'll give 1558 01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:09,200 Speaker 1: him the nod. But it's close. Yeah, McVeigh and Stafford, 1559 01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,320 Speaker 1: Rogers and Lafleur, it's close. But I will say true, 1560 01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:16,880 Speaker 1: and I would say I would say Read and Mahomes 1561 01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,760 Speaker 1: first two because Stafford because of Stafford's age as well. 1562 01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,960 Speaker 1: That's yeah, you know, and I don't think Stafford's got 1563 01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,040 Speaker 1: the live arm that Mahomes does. At this point, probably 1564 01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:32,360 Speaker 1: is still good. It's still pretty good NFL true false. 1565 01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:38,480 Speaker 1: Number three, The Lions should be concerned about recent player retirements. 1566 01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,800 Speaker 1: Three players have retired from the Lions in the last 1567 01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:48,280 Speaker 1: couple of seasons. And when one of the one of 1568 01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:52,240 Speaker 1: the Lions cover people will cover the Lions, he was saying, 1569 01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:55,160 Speaker 1: I just think it speaks to speaks volumes that the 1570 01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:58,639 Speaker 1: NFL is the not for long league. The Colts, incidentally, 1571 01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:02,879 Speaker 1: Steve just had a third year player, Carry Willis retire. 1572 01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:08,280 Speaker 1: He wants to pursue a career in the religious faith. 1573 01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,120 Speaker 1: He wants to must be a minister. Yeah, he wants 1574 01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,439 Speaker 1: to be a minister. So he's retiring after three years 1575 01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:17,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Okay, I mean, yeah, we're seeing it 1576 01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,680 Speaker 1: more and more. Yeah, guys calling it quits early. Um, 1577 01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,200 Speaker 1: I don't think the Lions need to be concerned though, No, 1578 01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,920 Speaker 1: I don't think so. It's just it's not because there 1579 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,599 Speaker 1: has been an unsuccessful football team. And as a matter 1580 01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,519 Speaker 1: of fact, I would go as far as to say, 1581 01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:34,679 Speaker 1: I think the Lions could be a six or seven 1582 01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,679 Speaker 1: win team this year. Um, I think they like they've 1583 01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:41,719 Speaker 1: done some good building there. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't 1584 01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:43,840 Speaker 1: look like Jamison Williams is going to be ready as 1585 01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:47,880 Speaker 1: soon as they had hoped initially. He's looking like back 1586 01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:51,559 Speaker 1: half back third of the season at best right now, 1587 01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:55,800 Speaker 1: after tearing is Acllen the National Title game, and they 1588 01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:59,479 Speaker 1: moved up twenty picks to get him at twelve in 1589 01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:01,840 Speaker 1: round one, and it looks like they're gonna probably be 1590 01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:05,120 Speaker 1: waiting on him a little bit. But I don't think 1591 01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,800 Speaker 1: player retirements are tied to the lack of success that 1592 01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:12,120 Speaker 1: the franchise has had. I think those decisions are largely personal. 1593 01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:16,640 Speaker 1: Now I understand the history. Barry Sanders said forget it, 1594 01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:20,760 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson said forget it even though I'm still at 1595 01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:22,680 Speaker 1: the top, even though I'm still at the top of 1596 01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,760 Speaker 1: my game. Matt Stafford said, get me out of here. 1597 01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:29,479 Speaker 1: I want to believe it's different now in Detroit under 1598 01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,320 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, but the proof will be in the pudding 1599 01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,080 Speaker 1: as to whether they fully turn the corner. But I 1600 01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,680 Speaker 1: actually think they're doing some good things there right now. 1601 01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,680 Speaker 1: So I'm going to say false. I don't think they 1602 01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,040 Speaker 1: should be concerned, at least right now. Now. If the 1603 01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,080 Speaker 1: stuff hits the fan this year and they're three and thirteen, 1604 01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,000 Speaker 1: well okay, then you're right back where you're started. Yeah, 1605 01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:48,760 Speaker 1: but that doesn't have anything to do with these retirements either, 1606 01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,160 Speaker 1: does now, because all those guys had a different reason. 1607 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,280 Speaker 1: It wasn't it's a personal yes. And here's the thing. 1608 01:26:55,560 --> 01:27:02,479 Speaker 1: Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson, Yes, they all retired for 1609 01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:08,559 Speaker 1: the exact same reason. They were dead inside from playing lines. 1610 01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,879 Speaker 1: Oh my god. They they had had their souls crushed. 1611 01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:17,679 Speaker 1: Oh so yeah, I get that, But um, these guys, 1612 01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,800 Speaker 1: the recent ones, No, it seems different. Yeah. All right. 1613 01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,599 Speaker 1: That is NFL True Falls brought to you by Yancy's 1614 01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:25,599 Speaker 1: Fancy New York's Artists and Cheese. Steve and I take 1615 01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:27,800 Speaker 1: a break. We are wrap it up next. You're on 1616 01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:30,000 Speaker 1: One Bills Live, presented by Callid to Health. It's Buffalo 1617 01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:44,560 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. All right, welcome back One Bills Live. We 1618 01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:48,280 Speaker 1: know that Tyreek Hill said he'd prefer to in terms 1619 01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:52,799 Speaker 1: of accuracy, to Patrick Mahomes as his quarterback, and Patrick 1620 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:56,720 Speaker 1: Mahomes was asked to respond to those comments by one 1621 01:27:56,760 --> 01:28:00,000 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill and Mahomes took the high road. He said, quote, 1622 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,559 Speaker 1: I'm surprised a little. We love Tyreek here. I'm sure 1623 01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,599 Speaker 1: it has something to do with getting his podcast rolling. 1624 01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:06,800 Speaker 1: It takes a team. I haven't talked to him since 1625 01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:12,120 Speaker 1: the podcast came out, So there you go. Um, that's 1626 01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:16,920 Speaker 1: that we have our should I translate for you? I 1627 01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:21,479 Speaker 1: mean that that's pretty much Patrick Mahomes going whatever, whatever, whatever, 1628 01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:26,720 Speaker 1: that's right, Am I right? It's exactly whatever whatever whatever. Um, yeah, 1629 01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:31,040 Speaker 1: that's certainly he's a great player. But there's in Kansas 1630 01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:34,080 Speaker 1: City they're going, yeah, he was great, but it's kind 1631 01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:38,680 Speaker 1: of nice. Now. Yeah, Tyreek has some Matt baggage. It's 1632 01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:40,879 Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be interesting to see how the chemistry 1633 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,240 Speaker 1: blend works in Kansas City with the new pieces they 1634 01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:46,040 Speaker 1: have on offense. It's interesting to see and what happens 1635 01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:47,880 Speaker 1: in Miami. And I'll tell you what if I just 1636 01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,000 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be really interesting. Of course we're 1637 01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:53,040 Speaker 1: sitting here in Buffalo. But if it doesn't go well 1638 01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,400 Speaker 1: in Miami with Tyreeke and Tuah, if to A can't 1639 01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,479 Speaker 1: play like Pat Mahomes, if he's not the most accurate 1640 01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:04,120 Speaker 1: quarterback back of all time? How tyresek Canna? Yeah, yeah, 1641 01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:09,680 Speaker 1: that's gonna be interesting. Our latest episode of Bills by 1642 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,800 Speaker 1: the Numbers our podcast Steve and I is out now. 1643 01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,360 Speaker 1: Check it out on all your podcast platforms. You want 1644 01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:16,919 Speaker 1: to know why the Bills are one of the healthiest 1645 01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:18,680 Speaker 1: teams in the league in the last three years. We 1646 01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,519 Speaker 1: dive into the numbers on that, so check that out. 1647 01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:22,760 Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow here at one