1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: Gradients from the Toyota Patio here at Sofi Stadium, and 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: welcome to a holiday edition of Between the Horns, as 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: always presented about your Southern California Toyota dealers. I'm JV. Long, 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood, DeMarco far I'm tanning. This is nice. This 5 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: is nice weather compared. Yes, I like this weather. Week 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: sixteen three to go. Could be near eighty degrees for 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: Christmas Sunday here in Los Angeles will not be a 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: white Christmas. Eighty degree Christmas Day. I love La, don't 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: you guys? Yeah, come on, I could use a little snow. 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: I mean, we can manufacture that movie. Careful what you 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: say about the weather around this guy after what he 12 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: endured on Monday night. Oh my god, was it cold 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: in the booth? Was it that cold? Was it freezing 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: up there? We utilize brought worse and cheese curse. Wow, 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: it was cold down there. It really was. That was 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: that was one of those opportunities to really be tough 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: for a hot note. But it was fun. It was 18 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: fun to be down there. Yeah, we'll put our finishing 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: thoughts on that loss to the Packers, spend it ahead 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: to a Christmas Day game. Against Russell Wilson and the 21 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. But first, just a life check in Erica. 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: Good to see you in person. Yeah, sca a week 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: for you. Yeah. I had a little peanut allergy scare, 24 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: but I made it through the night. Um, I'm a cockroach. 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Can't get rid of me? Thank Goodness for that. Wow, 26 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: can't kill me? Wow? Yeah to Marco, how you holding up? 27 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: Finish shopping for the ladies in your life? I think so? Yeah. 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: Santa came down the chimney last night, so there's presence 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: under the tree. Everybody's happy. So yeah, another good year 30 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: for Santah. Well done. Yeah, even with a Monday night 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: or Santa can't take a day off? Would you get me? Well, 32 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: I can't tell you. Okay, yeah, for a couple of 33 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: years I got that. What are we wearing on Sunday? Yeah? 34 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: I think okay, all of us in the other pants? No, 35 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: that was the secret to the win over the Raiders 36 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: now that I reflect on it, also too, I was 37 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: thinking JB, like, you know, we're gonna I have a 38 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: good feeling about Christmas. It's it's a Christmas Day game. 39 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: Our defense is playing really great. I think it's gonna 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: be a good game. So I think that maybe when 41 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: for your radio calls right, you should try to insert 42 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: some sort of like boom shaka laca or like something 43 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: different for or like or ho ho. I don't want 44 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: to tell you how to do your job, because you're 45 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: best at it, but like what about a ho ho 46 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: ho there he goes or something like that. We got 47 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: a few more days to workshop, but I like where 48 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: your head is at. What do you have cooking? What's 49 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: in the hopper for Sofi Stadium on Sunday. I'm excited. 50 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: I've been working on a Christmas sketch video that I'm 51 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: excited to have a feeling. Yeah, it's in. You might 52 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: make a little cameo in your good voice, very small, 53 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: he says, jock straps in my video. Nice jock straps. 54 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: There are more important cameos. I've seen a screening of it, DeMarco. 55 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we're all wearing Ram's garb today, but do 56 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: we break with tradition try and shake things up a 57 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: little bit. I wish I could. I want to wear 58 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: like the you know, the ugly Christmas sweater down on 59 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: the sideline. But you know, I'm down there with Bobby Wagner, 60 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: who's busy. Imagine me on the sideline and Jalen Ramsey 61 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: walks by, and I got the ugly sweater on. I 62 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: was not thinking of you last night. Tom Izzo, Michigan 63 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: State basketball coach. I got a technical and an ELF 64 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: outfit that he was wearing. He wore a full on ELF. 65 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: I think you could get away with that. I'd rather 66 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: rather wear the leather pants and the ELF. Yeah. Let's 67 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: let's let's go there. Are we intentionally vamping and staying 68 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: away from the Rams? Most reason laws? I hope not. 69 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: Let's put our final thoughts on that trip to Green Bay, 70 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: DeMarco any lasting takeaways from what you saw on the 71 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: frozen tundra? Oh man, Let's see that defense is prideful 72 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: um doing everything they can to keep the game close. 73 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: What game got away from the Rams this year? Defensively? 74 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: When you think about Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay kind of 75 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: got away from him. Yeah, yeah, but not not too many. 76 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean like came off the rails, came off the rail. 77 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about a victory, got away 78 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: had a chance to win and loss. I got you there, 79 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: but I mean like got away, got blown out, got 80 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: run off the field. I don't think that's actually happened, 81 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: so very prideful, even though the names keep changing except 82 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: for a handful of guys out there, so that stands 83 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: out the offense, you know, we were wondering what would happen, 84 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, Baker Mayfield part two once you have tape 85 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: on him. So you got the win versus the Raiders. 86 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: That was great. Green Bay made it tough on you, 87 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: really tough on you. So, um, I guess those And 88 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: then if you're Sean mcvayh what are you down to? 89 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: What can you do and who can you do it with? 90 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: At this point? So that's what I thought in between 91 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to stay warm down there. 92 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: What he's referencing is Brian Allen dinged up on the 93 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: first play, left after the second play, so you're without 94 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: your center for the bulk of that game. Ben Scronic 95 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: able to play through. But now both of those guys 96 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: shut down for the rest of this remaining three game 97 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: year Erica, you were watching from Afar on Monday night. Yeah, 98 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: Actually I was with Barefoot Wine and the Rams. We 99 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: did a wine and watch party in West Hollywood, which 100 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: was actually really fun and we had the heaters going 101 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: because it was like, I don't know, like a bomby 102 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: seventy degrees. So we lit up the heaters. We're outside 103 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: drinking wine watching the game, and it was I was, 104 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: I was impressed with the defense. I know, Aaron Rodgers 105 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: had some of his weapons back, he had some of 106 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: the rookies that he's been gaining connection with back, which 107 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: was good to see. Um, our defense really sort of 108 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: we were talking about it earlier than you know, Jalen 109 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: Ramsey taking the ball away from Aaron Jones, who I 110 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: benched out of solidarity, just so I mean maybe survive. Yeah, 111 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: I'm out of the playoffs, but that's okay. You know, Um, 112 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: you know I'm mathematically eliminated. But UM, scarier things have happened. 113 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: You have what wine goes with football, goes with all 114 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: of the wine goes with football, all of them, all 115 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: wine goes with football. Point, would you say barefoot barefoot 116 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: wine football checking in their official wine sponsor of the 117 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams. Of course, I don't want to do 118 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: your bit, but no, no, no, go ahead to her 119 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: point about the defense. Um, I've been answering questions about 120 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: off coverage since we left Green Bay haven't you guys 121 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: too since you left Green Bay last year or just 122 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: last week or just last week some time. Yeah, you're 123 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: right about last year two. So they're asking me, and 124 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm I'm like, are we watching the same game. It's 125 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: like playing chest against deep blue man. I mean, and 126 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: you lost your queen. You're shorthanded defensively, your best pass 127 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: rusher is your middle linebacker. What would you call? Yeah, 128 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: you felt that Aaron Donald's absence is what he's talking about. 129 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: You felt that for sure against Aaron Rodgers and company. 130 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: I'll try and play silver lining guy here. How about 131 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: Taylor Rap? Back to back interceptions contract year and exactly. 132 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: Happy birthday to Taylor Rap. It's nice to see him 133 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: playing well, playing some of his best football at this 134 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: closing stretch. But yes, the Rams are depleted and now 135 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: they have to deal with the Denver Broncos. Looks like 136 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson who was cleared from the concussion protocol. They 137 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: have to not to play him against the Arizona Cardinals 138 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: in a win, we'll get the start here at SOFI Stadium. 139 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: So their old friend has changed teams, changed colors. Rams 140 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: look completely different. But DeMarco, they'll have to be some 141 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: familiarity with Nathaniel Hackett and Russell Wilson. Well, you kind 142 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: of know what Russell's gonna do and what he can 143 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: do and what he wants to do. And it's going 144 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: to be a little bit different because ninety nine is 145 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: not out there to chase them around and you know, 146 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: give him a hard time. But you know, there were 147 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: some bright spots. I like the defensive line. I like 148 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: the way they played against Green Bay, the way they 149 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: defended the run. So that will help you. If you 150 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: can force the game back in onto Russell Wilson and 151 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: make him try to beat you throwing the football, you've 152 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: got a better chance. But just like with Green Bay 153 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: and everyone else, if you don't stop the run and 154 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: you give Russell Wilson the benefit of play action, not 155 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: only might he beat you, probably will I mean, and 156 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: Denver is good enough even though they're struggling to do 157 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: just that. So and remember we're trying to figure out 158 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: who's going to start now for the rams Um. This 159 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: is going to be an adventure every single time out, 160 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: so nothing is guaranteed, but I do know this, the 161 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: way they played in green Bay, if you can carry 162 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: that over to Denver, you'll have a better chance of 163 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: beating the Broncos here on Christmas Day. We'll take an 164 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: individual deep dive on Baker Mayfield in just a second, 165 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: but picking up the Broncos thread while we're on at 166 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: Latavius Murray coming off the best rushing performance of the 167 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: year for the Denver Broncos, and even if you go 168 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: back two weeks, a near comeback against the Ransas City 169 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: Chiefs could have been Russell Wilson's best performance as a 170 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: Bronco before he got knocked out in that game. So 171 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: I think there's reason to be optimistic for a matchup 172 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: between four win teams that the Broncos may have turned 173 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: a corner. We'll see what it looks like here at 174 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: Sofi Stadium. But their profile Erica is a bit like 175 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: the Rams in that offensively they just have not been 176 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: able to find much traction, but their defense has proven 177 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: to be elites. Yeah, definitely, defense is gonna their offense. 178 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: Like you just said, I think their thirty second in 179 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: total offense, which is their thirty two teams lost in 180 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: the league. So with our defense playing, just wanted to, 181 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: you know, like expel it up. So thirty two thirty 182 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: two teams. Okay, so yeah, that makes sense. But no, 183 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: they've been the their offense, like you just said, two 184 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: four and ten teams against each other. Their defense, I 185 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: think has leading the league in takeaways and interceptions versus 186 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: So I think it's going to be a huge defensive 187 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: game for both sides. I think that is where we're 188 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: going to see a lot of this player. Come on, 189 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: Cam Akers, you know. I like Cam Akers, I always have. 190 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: I really like the way he's run. I like the 191 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: way he ran in Green Bay. I mean, when you're 192 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: a four and ten football team and you're struggling, the 193 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: best thing you can hope for is a running back 194 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: that likes to take on people. So do it again 195 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: against Denver and control the football game. Do the best 196 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: you can. Take pressure off Baker Mayfield and help your 197 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: defense out. Help them stay on the bench a little 198 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: bit longer so they can recharge and stop Lebroncos offense 199 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: when it matters moment, Camps had an edge to him. 200 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: Let's just say, since the trade deadline passed and he 201 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: rejoined the Rams talking about ruining some opponents. Cheerios down 202 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: this closing stretch of twenty twenty two, you can catch 203 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: that one in the line. I missed the cheerios. Go 204 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: check it out. Okay, I like cheerios. Then this cheerios 205 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: did he no? Okay, saying you wouldn't like these cheerios, Okay. 206 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield second game as a ram look. We knew 207 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: when they took on the Raiders that that was one 208 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: of the worst passing defenses in the National Football League, 209 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: and I thought they exploited it. Even on short preparation. 210 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: It seemed like he was getting a lot of his 211 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: first looks and delivering the football on time and in rhythm. 212 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: Had a feeling that against our old friend Joe Barry, 213 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: things might be different against the Packers because their secondary 214 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: is more accomplished, and it felt that way. Why couldn't 215 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: they get things going through the passing game in Green Bay? Well, 216 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: like we said, it's I think it's a matter of 217 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: personnel and how they were playing you and when you 218 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: had to hold the football and Joe Berry, you know, 219 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: when you have Baker Mayfield is take away the first read, 220 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: make him have to scan the field and come back 221 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: to his second or third read. By that time, Preston 222 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: Smith hads beaten his man, So that's going to be 223 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: the game plan going going forward. The thing that always 224 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: startles me or stops me about Baker Mayfield is when 225 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: he walks by, I can see the top of his head, 226 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: and I'm not very tall, you know what I mean, So, 227 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: and he's not trying to headbut you now he's not 228 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: trying to headbut me, I don't want any part of 229 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: that Headbut but I'm just he's not very tall. So 230 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: there's only so many things you can do with a 231 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: quarterback that size, you know what I mean. So if 232 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: you don't have the benefit of a Cooper Cup somebody 233 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: that's special that goes beyond, then your playbook is limited. 234 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: And once they know that and they start taking away 235 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: that first read, then you force him to be a 236 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: scrambler who wants to be a scrambler at this point 237 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: in the season, didn't do a ton of that, didn't 238 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: run as effectively in Game two as he did in 239 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: Game one. But Schimy Fay talked about, you know, some 240 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: of the challenges that he faced in that game, and 241 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: we understand a lot of the dynamic they're working with, 242 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: especially personnel wise, but on these three level concepts that 243 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: McVeigh and his offense are known for if you do, 244 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, successfully turn the corner on that boot. If 245 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: one has taken away, let's say it's two two out. Well, 246 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: if two is taken away, let's say it's Van Jefferson, 247 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: who is three like Higbee? Okay? Or maybe you're back right. 248 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: And I think he was self critical saying I didn't 249 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: get to the early checkdowns efficiently and accurately enough. But 250 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: the challenges who are who are those threes? Where are 251 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: they coming from in the formation? Are they coming off 252 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: pre snap motion? Are they coming off the slot? Are 253 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: they coming out of the backfield? And I think that's 254 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: probably the week to week room for growth. We talked 255 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: about hitting the layups going to Green Bay and why 256 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: that was going to be so important. They couldn't. They didn't, 257 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: and I think that's part of the reason why they 258 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: were unsuccessful offensively, say for that one touchdown to Tyler Higbee. 259 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: Another familiar defensive coordinator this week, Joe Berry with the 260 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: Packers coach e coach Everro was awesome here with the 261 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams, and he's been a bright spot for 262 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: the Broncos. I think he's gonna get head coaching interviews. 263 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: It seems like I hope. So we were just talking 264 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: about hot head coaching prospects and if Denver, if their 265 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: record was flipped, I'd bet we'd be talking more about 266 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: him some other guys as well. But yeah, here's another 267 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: guy that knows what you like to do, familiarity with 268 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: your offense, plus how you like to call the game, 269 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: and what you like to try to do in certain situations. 270 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: It's all different now because the personnel is different, but 271 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: the philosophies are there. So look for him more than 272 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: Joe Berry to take advantage of you pressure wise, sending 273 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: you more than you can block and see him he 274 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: can make that see if he can force you into 275 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: making a mistake, a big mistake that way. So I 276 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: think if you take some of what the Packers did, 277 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: what their defense did, and match it to what the 278 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: Broncos can do, would I would bet all out smoke 279 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: going towards Baker Mayfield on game day mcphagh cheekily kind 280 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: of commenting like if everyone knows what we're doing, like 281 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: good on him, because we don't yet know what we're doing. Like, yes, 282 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: these these individuals that were matching up against have a 283 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: sense of who we are and who we want to be, 284 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 1: but we're still trying to figure that out. Midweek on 285 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: Game Week Erica, big deal or no deal, Bobby Wagner 286 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowls No. What was your take? I completely disagree. 287 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: I think that we were kind of talking about this earlier. 288 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: I think maybe it had to do with our record. 289 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: I think Bill definitely, but also sort of the media 290 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: and like what people are talking about on Twitter on 291 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: Sundays and stuff like that. I think people have kind 292 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: of not been as plugged in as they have in 293 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: years past. Rudy, our producer, was talking to me. He said, 294 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, who is in his ninth straight Pro Bowl, 295 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: is like Meryl Street for the Oscars. They just write 296 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: her in no matter what. He doesn't even have to 297 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: be there. And I don't have a problem with Aaron 298 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: Donald making it. I think it should be the Pro Bowl. 299 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: But I think you can make the case this has 300 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: been Bobby Wagner's one of Bobby Wagner's better career years. 301 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: It gets washed out by the ten losses, but I 302 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: think he deserves to be there the way he's played. 303 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: You passed right over Meryl Streep and Aaron Donald. I'd 304 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: never pictured Meryl Streep grabbing somebody by the throat. Never 305 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: just it just never watch she can do it all. 306 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: But I see, I see who we're going. But you 307 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: know it's it's it's not fair in the NFL, And 308 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: think about this, There's so many things in sports that 309 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: we just kind of acknowledge and move on. Boxing to 310 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: to win, you gotta knock the champion out. I don't 311 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: agree with that, but that's what people think. Bobby Wagner's 312 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: best games came in losses. Yeah, And on the other side, 313 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: think of Fred Warner. Most of his big games came 314 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: in wins. So one's gonna stand out more than the other. 315 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: But it's not gonna cost Bobby Wagner any money. You're 316 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: you're not gonna pay him less because he didn't make 317 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. And this is not gonna hurt his 318 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame chances. If anything, it's gonna be, it's 319 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna bolster them. He's been great. He's been 320 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: the best inside linebacker in the game. He's outproduced everybody. 321 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: I feel like revolving cast in front of him ahead. 322 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: So I have a personal like just to see what 323 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: he's done for this locker room, in the leadership too. Like, 324 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: I just wanted that for him, just and I'm sure 325 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: he's probably like, hey, it's a flag football game this year, Like, 326 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm good, but I just to see how instrumental he's 327 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: been to this team and some of these younger players too. 328 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: It just felt like it would have been the icing 329 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: on the game. More and more, I'm just struggling with 330 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl as an accolade Major League Baseball. You're like, oh, 331 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: he's a thirteen time All Star. I'm like, yeah, they 332 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: vote for that in spring training, Like, what does that 333 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: mean they play in the middle of the year. I 334 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: don't want that to be the case for Pro Bowls 335 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, But more and more I 336 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: can't even put that on a resume, Like if you're 337 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: evaluating his Hall of Fame credentials, which are secure, no 338 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: doubt about it, but I'm leaning towards how many times 339 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: did you lead the league in tackling? How many times 340 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: was an All Pro? I guess what I'm saying is 341 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: when a third of the Pro Bowl voting is like 342 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: retweets on Twitter, right, Yeah, it's a you know, lookum, 343 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: I had to explain to me it was nineteen ninety five, 344 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: eleven and a half sacks. I think I led all 345 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: d tackles in forced fumbles and I did not make 346 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: the Probos keep going about okay, but not even an alternative. 347 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: And it was explaining to me, hey, look, this is 348 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: a popularity contest. This is it doesn't mean that much 349 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: to not make it or make it. So everyone knows 350 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: that you're a good player, saying with Bobby Wagner, I 351 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: don't think the Denver Broncos are gonna say, oh, we 352 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: can forget about him because he didn't make the Pro Bowl. 353 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: I mean, when you line up on game day, the 354 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: first guys you have to worry about outside of Aaron 355 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: Donald is him, and then Jalen Ramsey. Everyone knows this. 356 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: So if you don't make the Pro Bowls, not the 357 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: end of the world. If Aaron is Meryl, what's DeMarco? 358 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: Then in the Pro Bowl context, well we'll think about that. 359 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: With leather pants on, yeah, and cheerios. The amount of 360 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: people that have asked me about getting you in leather pants, 361 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: Like even out of company outing last night at top Golf, 362 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: people have come to me and be like, do you 363 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: think DeMarco's gonna get in leather pants? There's not a 364 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: bet big enough that I would say yes too. Were 365 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: leather pants and me in them would be part of it. 366 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: I think you could pull it off. Meryl Streep and 367 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. I feel like we're getting to the end 368 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: of this edition of Between the Horns. But you bounce 369 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: back from a near death nut allergy experience to play 370 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: top golf last night. Yeah, I'm like I said, I'm 371 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: a hero. Wow awesome. Does that count as a RAMS 372 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: octave activation off the injury reserve? Oh yeah? Running out 373 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: of space here on a Foster final key for Rams 374 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: and Broncos DeMarco. What are you looking forward to on 375 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: Sunday besides unwrapping the presence with your family? You know, 376 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: I'd like to see two two out Will get in 377 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: the end zone. That would be fun. Um. I think 378 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot there. I think, look, the kids too explosive, 379 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: um to to not score at least threatening to score 380 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: every game. And I think he's a great flopper. He 381 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: is a World Cup level flopper. It comes to pis right. 382 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: I mean he's great at it. I even said that 383 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: to him in the locker room and he just left. 384 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: So I'd like to see him getting the end zone 385 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: and uh, Cam akers um has each change perception for 386 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: you guys? Is he back? Sure? Yeah, I'll stop short 387 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: of sure. What's your first question? Yeah, back, I don't 388 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: know yet, but change perception. Yes, I think he's done 389 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: everything right, say or hold on to the football in 390 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: some key situations, which you can't do, and I think 391 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: that's entirely fixable. So I'd like to see him him 392 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: have a great game by extension Baker Mayfield and throwing 393 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: the two two out. Well, I hope that happens. This 394 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: game will get the Erica tamposy bit. It'll also get 395 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: the Nickelodeon treatment. Yes, it's nice to see some rams slimed. Yeah, 396 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: that'll be great. There was a video of Baker getting 397 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: slimed actually up at the training facility, which is really 398 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: fun and you should go check it out. Awesome. Hopefully 399 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: we don't get slimmed, or maybe we do. I don't know. 400 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: Broncos Chargers, Seahawks to finish. And speaking of Bobby Wagner, 401 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: cannot wait to get him back to Seattle. Hope he's 402 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: in line. Yeah, it does feel like a long time 403 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: since we talked about the potential show down with Russell Wilson. 404 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: Obviously everyone had bigger hopes for this game than where 405 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: we land, but there is that connection to be certain. 406 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: Holidays everyone from DeMarco Farr and Erica Tampose. I'm JB. Long. 407 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us here on the Toyota Patio 408 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: at SOFI Stadium. Hope you can join us for the 409 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: Rams home finale against the Denver Broncos coming your way 410 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: at this Christmas Sunday. 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