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Speaker 1: What's up. I'm Granger. Hey, I'm the air man, I'm Tyler,

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Speaker 1: I'm Parker. It's the ninety nine for one podcast where

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Speaker 1: we hope to seek the one and equip the ninety

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Speaker 1: nine to do the same. Comes from the Parable of

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Speaker 1: the Lost Sheep in Luke fifteen. Interesting topic today and

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Speaker 1: what's the real war in Iran? A lot of talks

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Speaker 1: that's timely because things change so quickly. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: think it also is something we just have to address.

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Speaker 1: We want to be a podcast that helps people think

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Speaker 1: through things. We're not going to be a news outlet.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to give you breaking information. We just

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Speaker 1: want to help think through things. Now, we're Christians, so

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Speaker 1: we want to we want to always use the Bible

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Speaker 1: as our guide as as the lens that we see

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Speaker 1: everything else with. Without that lens, we're we're seeing, uh,

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Speaker 1: we're seeing worldly things from our own eyes that we

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Speaker 1: could always deceive ourselves with. So we want to go

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Speaker 1: back again to the word. So with that said, we

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Speaker 1: when we see what has happened as we record this

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Speaker 1: podcast just a few days ago, as this podcast comes

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Speaker 1: out six days from now, we First of all, we

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Speaker 1: have two guests coming. Yeah, uh, dear brother Travis, who's

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Speaker 1: kind a friend of the podcast and with the looking

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Speaker 1: up for him ministries. And then we have Ed. I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't even know Ed's last name or where

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna we're gonna bring these two guys just

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Speaker 1: to to have a little roundtable discussion before they get

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Speaker 1: on here. Though, let's set the stage. What happened over

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Speaker 1: the last few days was crazy, right. Did you guys

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Speaker 1: keep up with with the like the actual attack itself?

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Speaker 2: And I also thought I remembered back to when the

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Speaker 2: then you go home and you catch up on everything

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Speaker 2: that went on the day. I thought about how crazy

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Speaker 1: So I saw today, how did you find out about

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Speaker 1: it on social media? With social media. I haven't seen anything. Really,

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Speaker 1: this is all new to you. That's even more fun.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely nothing. Okay, well that's it, that's even more But

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Speaker 1: I mean was in our pastoral prayer on Sunday. We

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Speaker 1: prayed all through it. Oh you were there. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: as elders, we keep up with these things. We like,

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Speaker 1: we're you know, because we have to know how can

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Speaker 1: we be praying, how can we be working through things,

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Speaker 3: The church, or and how do you do that Twitter?

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming how do we know the information? Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean he's at social media.

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Speaker 1: So okay, So it's on every podcast right now, it's

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Speaker 1: I get it. I get the Morning Brew. So it

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Speaker 3: Every political probably podcast because not none of the podcasts I'm.

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Speaker 1: Talking about Christian. Yeah. I only listened to Christian podcasts.

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Speaker 1: It's the only kind of podcasts I listened to.

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Speaker 1: It's been all around al but but so what happened

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Speaker 1: was you really don't know any of this? Okay? Great,

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Speaker 1: So Iran has had this dictatorship regime since nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 1: They've been the the hub of terrorism all over the world.

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Speaker 1: Since then. They have funded everything Hesbala Amas. They they

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Speaker 1: have murdered tens and tens of thousands of people. My

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Speaker 1: friend Mohammad who's was converted, you know, he came to

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Speaker 1: he came to hear his preach and he was converted.

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Speaker 1: He's he's a Christian. Now you live just down the

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Speaker 1: road here or two hours. But I texted him today.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about it, and he's talking about the forty

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Speaker 1: nowhere to all of us, the US and Israel and

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Speaker 1: ay In the the most strategic and the most coordinated

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Speaker 2: You should share the video you shared with me because

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Speaker 2: it was fascinating. Parker shared it with me, Is that right? Okay,

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Speaker 2: So you're the only one who hasn't seen the video.

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Speaker 2: It was It showed how they how they planned it,

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Speaker 1: And some say even down to the second. There were

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Speaker 1: all our carriers out there right they're in the Mediterranean. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's cool. So we launched the most strategic the the

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Speaker 1: I mean this this it's insane what these bombs hit

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Speaker 4: It was like one of the biggest US strategic military

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Speaker 4: attacks and like since like the early nineties, since like

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Speaker 4: the Goal.

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Speaker 1: War, but but even way more than the golf as

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Speaker 1: far as the technology and the the and we're also

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Speaker 1: it was alongside of Israel. So Israel. I've just heard

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Speaker 1: but the leadership of Iran the the I did it

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Speaker 1: was at the Almolder today. You know what it was.

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Speaker 2: Theyre street cams. Street cams. Yeah, they have hacked.

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Speaker 1: The street street cam for years, and they saw when

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Speaker 1: all the leadership was in was in one meeting underground

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Speaker 1: in the bunker, and that they had been watching them

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Speaker 1: for years Israel with the and the CIA. I mean

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Speaker 1: you talk watch them at stock light James Bond type stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this stuff is crazy. It's beyond any of

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Speaker 1: the craziest movies we've ever seen. What just happened.

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Speaker 2: They would they would take it encrypt the pictures of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, once again we are This podcast is not a

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Speaker 1: news no, no, no, no, we're just we're just some dudes talking

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Speaker 1: about this. But it was in there will be a

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Speaker 1: movie come out after There's gonna be a movie. So

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Speaker 1: they're all in their meeting. There's like forty of the

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Speaker 1: all these aircraft carriers and Israel sent.

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Speaker 5: How many hundreds of jets said multiple dozen. I thought

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Speaker 5: there's like a there's like eighty or it's like seventy

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Speaker 5: eighty come from Israel. The US launches.

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Speaker 1: I mean we're talking F eighteens, F twenty two's, F fifteen's,

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Speaker 1: we're just in a conflict. That's war. It's not a war. No,

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Speaker 1: it's an all out I mean.

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Speaker 3: Google war. It says we're not in a war. It

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Speaker 3: just says conflict. So it's like, what's the definition of

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Speaker 3: the US is declared war. You're saying that I heard

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Speaker 1: We're in World War three? No war?

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Speaker 7: So what war do you want to call it? The

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Speaker 7: title of the operational Epic Fury. And so what's the

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Speaker 7: war called? They'll title, they'll give it a name.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so this is the first war we've been

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Speaker 1: mean those wars are coact freedom. Actually, what's the difference.

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Speaker 2: While the US has been involved in many conflicts since

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Speaker 2: forty two, We've been inother conflicts including Korea, Vietnam, I Rock,

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Speaker 1: These that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: These were conducted by authorization for use of military force,

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Speaker 1: That still, what's the difference in So we changed, we changed.

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Speaker 1: The Department of the Secretary or the Department of Defense

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Speaker 1: should see what they did. It's it's absolutely I geek

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Speaker 1: I showed London. I showed London last night and she

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Speaker 4: They see like three hundred decoy drones and that looked

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Speaker 8: Capital to destroy them. But it was just a decoy.

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Speaker 4: And then, like like Ant said, they've hat like all

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Speaker 8: They were just in complete confusion.

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Speaker 4: And then you have multiple aircraft carriers sending Tomahawk missiles

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Speaker 4: And then all coordinated with Israel, who has like dozens

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Speaker 8: It's insane.

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Speaker 1: Sure, there's two hundred two hundred from Israel. Three five

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of ground to cover. But they all

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Speaker 1: hit within a second, so no one. No one saw

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Speaker 1: it coming, no one. These these people were in the

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Speaker 1: meeting drinking their tea. Man, just boom, they're gone.

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Speaker 8: Kind of reminds me of Jesus coming back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, like that gone. I mean they were they

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Speaker 1: had no idea. So then what happens is the Iranian

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Speaker 1: it's flattened. The parts that were still alive launched defense

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Speaker 1: How should we think about the events that have unfolded?

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Speaker 9: So with any evil empire and evil government, there's always

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Speaker 9: So each of these channels currently have a viewing audience

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Speaker 9: completely stopped and regression happened back to the Middle Ages

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Speaker 9: of Europe, similar to that the Middle Ages of Asia.

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Speaker 9: And I would never have believed my eyes that I

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Speaker 9: would again see a revolution happening. And this is a

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Speaker 9: very very significant event in history. Leave the situation that

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Speaker 9: is continuing to progress hopefully towards a complete change of

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Speaker 9: regime and the introduction of a democratic government and freeing

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Speaker 9: people from the tyranny of forty seven years of captivity

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Speaker 9: under Islamic tyranny. It's a significant milestone in history. So

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Speaker 9: we should not underestimate it.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 9: Did October seventh player role, Well, I think it's just

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Speaker 9: a collection of number of things that have happened, not

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Speaker 9: just one event. October seven was one, perhaps maybe, as

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Speaker 9: the expression goes, the straw that broke the camel's back.

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Speaker 9: But I think there's been a series of events. For

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Speaker 9: forty seven years. This government has constantly tried to bring disruption.

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Speaker 1: And terror and.

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Speaker 9: Evil schemes that would threaten people's lives and security. So

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Speaker 9: this was finally the last event that I think would

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Speaker 9: lead to a complete change of dynamics in the Middle East.

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Speaker 9: And you know, we were at a meeting with provis

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Speaker 9: A few days ago and we were discussing this thing,

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Speaker 9: and I said, one of the things that we need

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Speaker 9: to do is not just to hope and pray for

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Speaker 9: a regime change would probably happen very soon, but we

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Speaker 9: also should be looking forward to a long term the

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Speaker 9: Islamization of Iran. We need to get rid of Islam

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Speaker 9: as a wholesale ideology and belief, starting with Iran, because

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Speaker 9: it will have a ripple effect in the Middle East.

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Speaker 9: The Islamization of a place like Iran must be accompanied

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Speaker 9: with the political landscape cannot have only a change of regime.

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Speaker 9: The government goes, but ninety minutes people are still very

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Speaker 9: much stuck with that superstitious false beliefs that they have,

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Speaker 9: which will still be very vulnerable to be triggered by

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Speaker 9: another religious uprising that would bring them back on the

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Speaker 9: same page again. So I think the West, the Church,

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Speaker 9: particularly the Church, needs to have a very clear strategy

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Speaker 9: of helping Iranian people be freed from Islam by presenting

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Speaker 9: the Gospel as beautifully, as radiantly, as transparently as possible,

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Speaker 9: and at the same time show them the dangers of

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Speaker 9: Islam in their lives. You know, I was just telling Travis,

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Speaker 9: I think yesterday, when you buy a pack of cigarette,

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Speaker 9: they show you on the pack, at least in Canada,

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Speaker 9: I think the US the same. They show you a

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Speaker 9: picture of an infected lung, a dead man's lung, or

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Speaker 9: the mouth with all cancer and it rights at the

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Speaker 9: back of the pack of cigarette. Smoking kill kills you,

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Speaker 9: will kill you. I think we should have a message

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Speaker 9: for Iran. Islam is going to destroy you. You've got

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Speaker 9: to get rid of this addiction to this religion, and

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Speaker 9: the only people that can do that is the church.

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Speaker 9: By presenting Christ as such a visible and such a

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Speaker 9: beautiful representation of love and grace coming from God that

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Speaker 9: people will abandon that false religion and captivity to the

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Speaker 9: devil himself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which we don't have to add anymore to what

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Speaker 1: the Bible already shows them as glorious and beautiful. Travis

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Speaker 1: to that, to that point, what are some wrong ways

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Speaker 1: that the Western Church could could try to help.

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Speaker 6: Well in our gathering that we are at, because because

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Speaker 6: actually Ed and I started talking a couple three weeks

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Speaker 6: back that something is coming. We were aware from our

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Speaker 6: sources something large was coming. It was inevitable, there was

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Speaker 6: going to be a regime change. We were convinced of that,

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Speaker 6: and so we began talking about exactly that. What is

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Speaker 6: the best what's the next step? Ed has all these

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Speaker 6: contacts in Iran, among the Persian people, we have relationships

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Speaker 6: in the Middle East, You have relationships over there as well.

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Speaker 6: How can we coordinate? And so I just started throwing

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Speaker 6: out to people, no organizations to be mentioned, Hey, would

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Speaker 6: you like to talk about a response when this regime falls?

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Speaker 6: And man, we had a great turnout, Okay, In that

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Speaker 6: were people from Yemen, people from the United Arab Emirates,

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Speaker 6: people from Pakistan, people who were networking in Turkmenistan, and

510
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Speaker 6: all in Afghanistan and all those the whole area. And

511
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Speaker 6: they were all talking, and some of them were long

512
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Speaker 6: in the tooth, meaning they've been around a day or two,

513
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Speaker 6: unlike Ed and I are very young. And they remember

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Speaker 6: the collapse of the USSR. Now the church in Iran

515
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Speaker 6: is underground, right, It's it's hidden, it's it's in its

516
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Speaker 6: own private world, and it's about to be uncovered. That

517
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Speaker 6: seems so good, doesn't it. It seems like, get the underground

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Speaker 6: church out, let them be free in their worship. It

519
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Speaker 6: just sounds so good. And there's this and as Ed

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Speaker 6: has said, there's this deep hunger to know God. It's

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Speaker 6: the fastest growing church globally. Doesn't that all sound good? Except,

522
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Speaker 6: as you said jokingly, as the Iranian church is getting better,

523
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Speaker 6: the American churches collapsing, and what happens and happened in Russia.

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Speaker 6: Our guy from Yemen said, remember Russia when it was

525
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Speaker 6: unveiled or uncovered. Immediately they the Evangelicals, the Protestants just

526
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Speaker 6: poured in and they poured in money, and they poured

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Speaker 6: in their teaching and their Western philosophies, and they just

528
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Speaker 6: destroyed the underground church. That's the view of the people

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Speaker 6: on the ground. They destroyed the underground church. False teachers

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Speaker 6: came out from everywhere, name it and claim it word faith,

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Speaker 6: big crusades, and they began dividing, and it became a

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Speaker 6: way everyone started grabbing money. Because as our brother who's

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Speaker 6: in the Middle East yesterday spoke on a different program,

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Speaker 6: he said, Uh, Westerners, especially Americans, they're so generous. They're

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Speaker 6: just not wise in how they invest, and so they're

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Speaker 6: willing to give. And we're the most generous country in

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Speaker 6: the world, hands down, the United States is so we

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Speaker 6: want to respond. And Christians are the most generous of

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Speaker 6: the generous, and they want to give, but they don't

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Speaker 6: do it wisely or using discernment, and so they start

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Speaker 6: pouring money in and fraud just rose rose and rose,

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Speaker 6: and the greedy wolves, the pastor wolves, started taking and

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Speaker 6: began pocketing, and they began getting rich. And it was

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Speaker 6: and it became so bad. This I did not know,

545
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Speaker 6: but my friends shared with me became so bad in

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Speaker 6: the now Russia that the Russian government propped up the

547
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Speaker 6: Orthodox Church. They actually propped it up, not because they

548
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Speaker 6: were more religious, but because they needed to keep the

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Speaker 6: evangelicals from destroying themselves, so they chose the orthodox and

550
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Speaker 6: established and gave it authority and power to keep the

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Speaker 6: evangelicals from just destroying the spiritual nature of their country.

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Speaker 6: And so the warning was, in fact, it caught me

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Speaker 6: totally off guard. The warning was this is the words. I'

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Speaker 6: lets see if I can get the words, see if

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Speaker 6: you can remember ed he said, we the church are

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Speaker 6: the greatest detriment to the church. Something along those lines.

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Speaker 6: He said, we must get the message out. Please, don't

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Speaker 6: just send your money in. Don't fund every person who

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Speaker 6: has ever thought about a wonderful adventure into Iran. Find

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Speaker 6: established ministries that have been there, working with the underground church,

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Speaker 6: who are not greedy, who have sound doctrine. That's the

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Speaker 6: first worn from our missionaries. Find. Don't just give money.

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Speaker 6: I don't care if a beautiful video comes on your

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Speaker 6: TV and you see all these hungry kids in this

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Speaker 6: war torn country. Don't send your money. Find an organization

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Speaker 6: that's trustable and actually doctrinally sound fund them. We do

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Speaker 6: need money. Ed'll talk about that. There's a need right now.

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Speaker 6: You can imagine in any war. But there's they're rationing

569
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Speaker 6: food and water because infrastructure is collapsing and there's going

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Speaker 6: to be need for rebuilding, and absolutely we need to

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Speaker 6: help them. First, John says, if you see your brother

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Speaker 6: in need and shut up your heart, the love of

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Speaker 6: God's not in you. So we want to do that.

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Speaker 6: But do not just open your wallet and start throwing

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Speaker 6: it towards everybody who says I love Iran, and you

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Speaker 6: get a bumper sticker that says I help Iran, give

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Speaker 6: it to organizations that were already there. And then that's

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Speaker 6: the outside message. The inside message is discipleship. What we have, honestly,

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Speaker 6: and you've seen it too, Granger, I know you have.

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Speaker 6: What we have is a church that has been living

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Speaker 6: by the spirit. The Word of God is limited. They

582
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Speaker 6: don't all have a Bible. They're able to watch some

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Speaker 6: programming through satellite, but it's limited. It's not really discipleship

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Speaker 6: or doing the best we can remotely. Discipleship is really

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Speaker 6: face to face growth, personal growth. And so they've been.

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Speaker 6: They pray, they py, they love, they sacrifice.

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Speaker 1: But the.

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Speaker 6: Current understanding of scripture, I would say, is immature, but

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Speaker 6: it's not because they want it to be immature. It's

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Speaker 6: because they haven't had teachers. Ed's been looking for teachers

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Speaker 6: and he's been trying to throw teachers in that country

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Speaker 6: as much as possible, but it's remote. So the second

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Speaker 6: the first one is don't just throw your money at this.

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Speaker 6: The second one is for the inside of the church.

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Speaker 6: We've got to focus on discipleship now of the existing

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Speaker 6: church to protect them. This is horrible, to protect them

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Speaker 6: from the wolves from the west, the religious wolves from

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Speaker 6: the west. So what's going to happen. They're hungry, they're spiritually,

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Speaker 6: they're alive. They're able to say Jesus's name out loud

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Speaker 6: and raise their hands in public, and it's so exciting.

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Speaker 6: And a false teacher and I'm not going to name

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Speaker 6: any so you don't get in trouble. But a false

603
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Speaker 6: teacher comes in and puts on a crusade, a crusade brother,

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Speaker 6: and thousands upon thousands of people come because they want God.

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Speaker 6: And they see this guy who's dynamic, and he flies

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Speaker 6: in in on a jet and he's wearing this beautiful

607
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Speaker 6: outfit and he speaks so well, and they flock to him,

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Speaker 6: and he takes their money and he gives them a

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Speaker 6: false gospel and they're like, oh, we met God. We

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Speaker 6: met God. So they're taking those who are hungry for

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Speaker 6: the Lord, and they're giving them false teaching and reaping

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Speaker 6: as it says in Ezekiel thirty for eating the sheep,

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Speaker 6: not feeding the sheep, eating the sheep. And in Russia,

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Speaker 6: ministry is exploded and people got rich and the church

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Speaker 6: was destroyed.

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Speaker 1: That's the warning. Well, guys, as we wrap this up, ed,

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Speaker 1: maybe we should do this again, you know, in a month,

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Speaker 1: because this thing might change so much. How could we

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Speaker 1: pray for Iran?

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Speaker 9: As Travis beautifully described, I think we need to pray

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Speaker 9: first of all, for this current situation would come to

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Speaker 9: a conclusion very quickly. Those that need to be removed

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Speaker 9: and taken out of the picture on a wholesale basis

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Speaker 9: would very rapidly be taken out, and the power structure

625
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Speaker 9: would collapse, so that people will have a time. You

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Speaker 9: need help from outside, and you need people from inside.

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Speaker 9: I mean, all you can do all the attacks you want,

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Speaker 9: but it comes a point where people now have to

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Speaker 9: get out into the streets and take over the country.

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Speaker 9: So we need to pray for people to remain safe,

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Speaker 9: wisely act and the West to be able to fulfill

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Speaker 9: what they promised the running people. I like the fact

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Speaker 9: that Natanyahu made a very interesting statement. He said, two

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Speaker 9: five hundred years ago, the Persians saved the Jewish nation

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Speaker 9: by freeing them from the Babylonians and releasing them to

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Speaker 9: their land. And now after twenty five hundred years, it's

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Speaker 9: our turn. And you know what, something very interesting. I'll

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Speaker 9: say this, or maybe we'll bring it to a conclusion.

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Speaker 9: Twenty five hundred years ago there was Queen Esther that

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Speaker 9: sensed the danger through her uncle Mordecai, that the Jewish

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Speaker 9: people were about to be annihilated by hey Man. And

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Speaker 9: it was the Feast of Purim, the estrafast, which we're

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Speaker 9: right now about to celebrate. And to just imagine how

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Speaker 9: the coincidence, I call it divine incidents. Twenty five hundred

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Speaker 9: years later, again during the Feast of Purim. This time

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Speaker 9: it is not the Jewish people that are in danger

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Speaker 9: of destruction, but the Persians, and God is sending help rescue.

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Speaker 9: And that is what we need to pray for people

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Speaker 9: to be rescued and saved from other destruction and shame

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Speaker 9: and everything that is not really Persian, but the influence

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Speaker 9: of that religion but second thing we can pray is

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Speaker 9: the reconstruction and redevelopment and opening of the Gospel in Iran,

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Speaker 9: along with what Pravat said, a very systematic, deliberate, well

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Speaker 9: designed scriptural discipleship of leaders who've been yearning to be

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Speaker 9: able to be trained. We have a seminary that we

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Speaker 9: run with Trinity College of the Bible and Theological Seminary

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Speaker 9: out of Indiana all translated into Farsi, and we have

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Speaker 9: three hundred plus students inside Iran, which means our future pastors, teachers,

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Speaker 9: evangelists are going to come out from the very people

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Speaker 9: that are currently studying at this particular institute US affiliated

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Speaker 9: with Trinity. Well, we need to pray for discipleship that

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Speaker 9: people leaders, local pastors, these underground churches that are led

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Speaker 9: by men and women are going to be well trained

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Speaker 9: disciples so that they can take over the leadership of

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Speaker 9: the church rather than we send Westerners to come there

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Speaker 9: For them to be truly connected directly to the scriptures,

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Speaker 9: the Holy Spirit, and the framework that we help them

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Speaker 9: develop for sound ministry, so that Irani is not going

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Speaker 9: to go the same path as Russia and some of

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, Granger, I know you want to wrap up,

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Speaker 6: but it's a recording, right, so I can give you

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Speaker 6: a monologue here and you can take what you like.

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Speaker 6: I got to things I'd like to say before you

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Speaker 6: close us. Unless man fell asleep, No.

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Speaker 1: We're all good. Yeah, what you got.

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Speaker 6: Esther and Mordecai. We're able to rescue the people of

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Speaker 6: Israel and Persia because they received a letter that enabled

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Speaker 6: the people to defend themselves. That's the goal here. Israel

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Speaker 6: doesn't want to own Iran. The United States does not

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Speaker 6: want to own Iran. Again, and again we're hearing a

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Speaker 6: call from our president. Iranians, we are taking the teeth

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Speaker 6: out of the tiger. Now you must kill it. You

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Speaker 6: must rise. The Iranians must lead their country. And so

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Speaker 6: that's the prayer that Ed and US would have that

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Speaker 6: the Iranian people, who have sacrificed so much to get

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Speaker 6: to the point, who have pled with people, played with

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Speaker 6: nations to intervene, they're now intervening. They must rise. We

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Speaker 6: must have humble servant leaders from inside the country who

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Speaker 6: will lead them into freedom. That's one, because it'll be

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Speaker 6: a vacuum wide open for ungodly wicked leaders. Absolutely, we've

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Speaker 6: got to pray against that. And the second thing is

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Speaker 6: there's two scriptures that I just want to give. I

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Speaker 6: said it to our chat, but maybe it didn't go through.

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Speaker 6: But there is a mandate from the Lord to those

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Speaker 6: he calls the mighty ones translated gods, if you will

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Speaker 6: in Psalm eighty two, the whole controversial scripture, the judges,

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Speaker 6: the leaders, the mighty ones. He says to the mighty ones,

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Speaker 6: here is what you are supposed to do. And I

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Speaker 6: want granger right now. Honestly, the United States is the

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Speaker 6: only superpower I firmly believe in the world right now.

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Speaker 6: There are other powers, but there's only one like us.

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Speaker 6: Right now, we find ourselves alone, and there is a

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Speaker 6: mandate from the Lord to the mighty ones. This is it,

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Speaker 6: he commands and saw him eighty two to three. Defend

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Speaker 6: the poor and fatherless, do justice to the afflicted and needy,

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Speaker 6: Deliver the poor and needy, free them from the hand

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Speaker 6: of the wicked. And I firmly believe that's what we

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Speaker 6: need to be praying. God, you have told the mighty

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Speaker 6: ones to do this. We are the mighty ones. Please

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Speaker 6: lead our President, please lead all those involved, that we

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Speaker 6: might free them from the hand of the wicked. And

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Speaker 6: that is what the battle we need to engage in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Amen, Amen. What changes nations and people groups and

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Speaker 1: societies and governments from the inside out is the gospel.

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Speaker 1: And we don't ever want to to have an episode

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Speaker 1: without the gospel. Parker, could you help us? Help us?

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Speaker 4: What is the gospel? Gospel is the good news that

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Speaker 4: God created man to love him, to serve him, to

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Speaker 4: obey him forever. But all mankind has turned away from God.

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Speaker 4: That man is not morally neutral or deep down good,

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Speaker 4: that all men have gone astray and have turned away

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Speaker 4: from God. And because all mankind is turned away from

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Speaker 4: God and did not obey him, just like a good

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Speaker 4: judge in your local county doesn't let the guilty go unpunished,

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Speaker 4: So God on judgment day rightly will not let the

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Speaker 4: guilty those who reject Him and turn away from Him

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Speaker 4: go unpunished. And so all mankind is deserving of eternal

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Speaker 4: conscious punishment for their sin. But God not design that

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Speaker 4: anyone would perish, sent his son Jesus, who lived the

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Speaker 4: perfect life that we were supposed to live. He died

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Speaker 4: the death that we deserve on the cross, taking on

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Speaker 4: the good, just wrath of God in our place. And

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Speaker 4: three days later, after he was killed, he rose from

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Speaker 4: the grave, showing that he was who he said he was,

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Speaker 4: that God had accepted his sacrifice of him dying in

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Speaker 4: our place on our behalf, and now sits at the

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Speaker 4: right hand of God, calling all men to repent or

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Speaker 4: turn from our sin, to trust in his sacrifice alone

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Speaker 4: on the cross, so that on judgment Day, when we

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Speaker 4: stand before God and he says, why shall let you in?

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Speaker 4: It would not be because of anything good that we

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Speaker 4: have done, and we were all guilty before him, but

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Speaker 4: is because of Christ's perfect work on the cross that we.

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Speaker 1: Might be saved. Amen. Amen, promised. We do a book

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Speaker 1: giveaway every episode. Grab this one. This is another very

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Speaker 1: short one. We're We're in a series of short ones,

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Speaker 1: aren't we. That's right? Thoughts for young men. J. C Ryle.

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Speaker 1: Any of you guys read this? Yes, I read it,

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Speaker 1: Kadin's read it off off camera, Parker's read it. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to grab a date for this. Eighteen eighty eight,

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Speaker 1: eighteen eighty eight it's a it's a wonderful book. Amber.

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Speaker 1: Amber always nudges me when this book comes up and says,

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Speaker 1: and for women, it's good for women, So apparently it's

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Speaker 1: just as good for women. I haven't really thought of

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Speaker 1: it in that way, but yeah. So it's a great

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Speaker 1: meditation book on godly men, godly biblical men, which is

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Speaker 1: exactly what Travis was saying we need more of in

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Speaker 1: our discipleship efforts. And as promised, some comments, you guys

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Speaker 1: go to go to what is the name of it again?

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Speaker 1: The book?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 1: The book? Oh yeah, yeah, we got we gotta do.

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Speaker 1: We got to do a comment for that, leading to

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Speaker 1: the next idea thoughts for Young Men by j c Ryle.

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Speaker 1: How could we relate that with the Iranian conversation? The

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Speaker 1: comment is Christian men in Iran, we need Biblical men

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Speaker 1: in Iran.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you comment that that gives you a chance to

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Speaker 2: win that book and we'll ship it to you. If

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Speaker 2: you'd like to just know what books that we've done

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Speaker 2: in the past, If you go to nine to nine

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Speaker 2: to one the podcast dot com, we have all the

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Speaker 2: books that we've done all up there, and in fact,

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Speaker 2: you when the latest episode comes out the book that

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Speaker 2: goes with that episode. So this episode's out now, the

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Speaker 2: book is directly underneath it. It has that book right there,

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Speaker 2: and then you can also see all.

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Speaker 1: The other books as well. Click. That's really cool the link.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at that right now.

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Speaker 2: You just put it up. Yeah, and then browse all books.

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Speaker 2: You can see all the featured books that we've done

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Speaker 2: so far.

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Speaker 1: That's so cool. And then you can click and buy

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Speaker 1: it on it and we don't make opinion on any

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Speaker 1: of there.

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Speaker 2: That's even cooler. We're not promoting ourselves at all. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Buy on Amazon and it'll take you right there.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's so cool. Okay, So, speaking of comments, go

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Speaker 1: to the YouTube page which is ninety nine for one

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Speaker 1: the podcast on YouTube, and I'm gonna check some of

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Speaker 1: these comments. Go go and comment, Bip. We need biblical

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Speaker 1: men in Iran and tell us where you're from and

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Speaker 1: your name. For instance, last week we have Andrew from

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Speaker 1: Carlisle pau to Andrew. We have David says. I don't

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Speaker 1: usually tune in for topics. I tune in to be inspired.

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Speaker 1: And I love how Tyler says all things are created

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Speaker 1: for him and by him, visible and invisible. That inspires

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Speaker 1: me so much. Thank you, Tyler. Always a shout out

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Speaker 1: for Tyler. And then and then one more. Here we

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Speaker 1: have Trust the Bible from Magdalena and she says, another

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Speaker 1: great episode. Thank you for doing all that you do.

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Speaker 1: I love this podcast. Listening from Arkansas. That's awesome. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you guys. That's all we have for today. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you next episode. Gyegee