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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, welcome to the program, as we are coming

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Speaker 1: your way from Phoenix, where the NFL is having its

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Speaker 1: annual meeting. It's also known as the Owners Meetings. That's

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Speaker 1: pretty much the way you know this, but they officially

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Speaker 1: called it the annual meeting where the league gets together

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Speaker 1: and ownership, general managers, coaches, league administrators, other people, and

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Speaker 1: they talk about business. They talk about how well business

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Speaker 1: is going. And at some point in the next two shows,

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Speaker 1: I will deliver a bunch of information on how well

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Speaker 1: the business is going. And as you can imagine, it's

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Speaker 1: the NFL, so the answer is pretty darn well and

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Speaker 1: a lot of things breaking in some cases as we speak.

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Speaker 1: Flag Football Pro League formation announced today. That's hardly a

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Speaker 1: shock that's been in the wind, but it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: very cool to see that see it materialize. How involved

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Speaker 1: will the Texans be. I'm guessing they're gonna be involved,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know what they're ready to say, and

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Speaker 1: if they've made plans at all yet or whatever. But

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have the McNair's on the show tomorrow. So

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Speaker 1: Chief Community Officer and Vice president of the Houston Texans Foundation,

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Speaker 1: Hanna McNair chair and CEO Cal McNair and also president

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Speaker 1: Mike Toeman, team president. He will join us as well tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Now I should say schedule to appear, because sometimes they

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Speaker 1: get meetings, they get hung up. Who knows what happens.

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Speaker 1: But that's the plan for tomorrow. Oh and a guy

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Speaker 1: AFC Coaches Breakfast will be tomorrow. We're going to catch

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Speaker 1: it for you on the show tomorrow. As the NFC

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Speaker 1: Coaches went today, and you saw some of the coverage

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Speaker 1: of that. I tweeted out a couple of pictures xed

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Speaker 1: out put out on X whatever of some Texans opponents.

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Speaker 1: I actually took more, but X doesn't let you post

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Speaker 1: a bunch of pictures. I guess I could have formed

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Speaker 1: a carousel or whatever, but who cares really anyway, I

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Speaker 1: saw Mike Lafleur today, Matt Lafleur, saw all the Lafleur's. Well,

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Speaker 1: their father, you know the story. Their father was a

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Speaker 1: secondary coach at Central Michigan when I was there as

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Speaker 1: voice of the Chip Wise. Maybe you don't know that story,

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Speaker 1: but I've told it before and I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: get into great detail about that again, but we're going

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Speaker 1: to play Matt Lafleur in Green Bay this year, and

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Speaker 1: we're playing the rest of the NFC East. The two

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Speaker 1: road games are Washington and the Philadelphia Eagles, while the

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Speaker 1: Giants and Cowboys come to NRG Stadium. That's going to

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Speaker 1: be cool, and we're going to get into that a

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Speaker 1: little bit with Sharene Williams during this show. She's from

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Speaker 1: PFT and it's always fun to catch up with Scharen

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Speaker 1: at these events. But let's kick it off here with

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Speaker 1: the general manager at executive vice president, Nick Cassio. Here

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Speaker 1: at the NFL Annual Meeting. All right, Nick, Owners meetings,

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Speaker 1: that's what they're called. Informally, it's the NFL Annual Meeting.

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Speaker 1: How's it going for you? So far?

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Speaker 2: Good? Pretty low key, so in a few meetings here

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Speaker 2: last couple of days, so usually the pretty informative. A

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Speaker 2: lot of it is just kind of recap what went

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Speaker 2: of the proposals or rules. This year, there's nothing, you know,

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Speaker 2: two pressing. We'll have a discussion tomorrow collectively as a group,

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Speaker 2: So so far, so good.

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Speaker 1: One thing that jumped out to me in one of

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Speaker 1: returned last year. That's up well over forty percent for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean I think going into it,

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Speaker 2: overall definitely, you know, more opportunities to handle the ball,

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Speaker 2: more opportunities to make a play certainly have a bigger

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Speaker 1: Also, how many games came down to the wire, which

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Speaker 1: is what the league wants, and it's something you got

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Speaker 2: We talk about it really every week. I think they

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Speaker 2: you know, I think that's you saw that throughout the

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Speaker 1: We have not had a chance to catch up since

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Speaker 1: some of the acquisitions this offseason. I know you're never done,

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Speaker 1: but so far, what are you thinking. Let's start with

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Speaker 2: The overall, I think, you know, resigning some key players,

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Speaker 2: Then made some additions there with some external players who

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Speaker 2: we'll continue to kind of put the team together. Say

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Speaker 2: all those players, the players that we resigned and the

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Speaker 2: continually build the depth of the overall room, and we're

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Speaker 2: probably going to need eight to ten of whomever is

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Speaker 2: we'll see what it looks like when we have Everyboddy,

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Speaker 2: you know, come May.

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Speaker 1: I know it's important that they fit the culture and

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Speaker 1: help create better culture whatever they do in that department, Nick,

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Speaker 1: But how do you find out if they fit that way?

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Speaker 1: Do you go back to your draft interviews of them,

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Speaker 1: anecdotal stuff from other coaches? How do you find out?

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit of everything. You kind of have

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Speaker 2: So you try to gather as much information. With free agents,

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Speaker 2: about that player. But I'd say, you know those players

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Speaker 2: does that look like in our system? You know, I'll

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Speaker 1: I had a chance to talk with Foster Moreau and

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Speaker 1: in along with the lineman and the improvements you've made overall?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been really good players at their respective programs.

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Speaker 2: Foster kind of is an interesting sort of history kind

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Speaker 2: and you know his background. Everybody's probably studied it there

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Speaker 2: I mean, everybody has spoken about his leadership and just

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Speaker 2: who we have a lot of respect for his program

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Speaker 2: that's all part of the calculus. That's all part of

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Speaker 1: Can you give me something on Reid blank and Ship

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Speaker 1: who is really he's got this infectious attitude about him

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got a pretty cool story as a player

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Speaker 2: that there's a good example the player wasn't drafted, who's

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Speaker 2: That was a player that you know, we had studied,

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Speaker 2: really we're not gonna ask these players to do anything

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Speaker 1: The guys who are under contract that you extended, how

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've helped us win a lot of games. You know,

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Speaker 2: but you know, Dalton Daniel and those players have played

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Speaker 2: and you know, they've helped us win a bunch of games.

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Speaker 2: So it's nice to have those guys around for hopefully

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Speaker 2: not only this year, but you know in future years

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Speaker 1: So how does the free agent acquisition period affect the

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Speaker 1: draft who you might draft if it all?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not materially, So we're I mean, i'd say deep

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Speaker 2: into the draft prep. You know, we've had a lot

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Speaker 2: some of the draft visits, some of the workouts, getting

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Speaker 2: some of the medical information. We kind of know we're

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Speaker 2: positioned right now from a pick volume standpoint, but we're

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Speaker 2: pretty consistent in terms of picking just the best players

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Speaker 2: for the Houston Texans, not necessarily focusing on one specific player,

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Speaker 2: one specific position. So we'll kind of go through that process.

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Speaker 2: We'll kind of the discussions that are very fluid, very ongoing.

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Speaker 2: We're just trying to kind of get the players in

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Speaker 2: the general vicinity the scouts have kind of we have

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Speaker 2: their grades, we have their evaluations. The coaches or I

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Speaker 2: would say kneedeep in their process as well, so we're

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Speaker 2: going to kind of get their evaluations. So we're just

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Speaker 2: trying to see, like collectively where we see a player. Similarly,

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Speaker 2: if there's a gap, how do we close the gap

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Speaker 2: so we can curry the right picture for the player

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Speaker 2: come the end of April, and then we'll just go

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Speaker 2: ahead and pick the players as they come off the board.

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Speaker 1: Fans hear about these thirty visits, So you have what

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Speaker 1: thirty players who can invite in, Can you take us

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Speaker 1: through what might happen during one of these visits. They're

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Speaker 1: not all created equal, are they.

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Speaker 2: No, they're not. There's some meriat or reasons. So I mean,

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Speaker 3: is about from midnight to three am. No one's there

433
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Speaker 3: to cover and of course most people aren't awake during

434
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Speaker 3: those twelve to three am things. But we have guys

435
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Speaker 3: that get up and are starting to post at three am,

436
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Speaker 3: and then I, Mike and I both go to about

437
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Speaker 3: midnight Central time, eleven twelve at night. So the site's covered,

438
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Speaker 3: you know, twenty to twenty one hours a day that we're.

439
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Speaker 4: Posting and putting up.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's covering it though. But you could be

441
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Speaker 1: at home watching Netflix, for instance.

442
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Speaker 3: So that's what I did, ye that. Yeah, oh that's

443
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Speaker 3: what I do. I watched TV at night and I

444
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Speaker 3: love it.

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Speaker 1: You know.

446
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Speaker 3: I get to get to all my activities morning, play

447
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Speaker 3: golf for tennis, and I start in the afternoon and

448
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Speaker 3: I go you know through the night.

449
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Speaker 4: I'm fine with that.

450
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Speaker 3: If I have something to do, I say, hey, I

451
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Speaker 3: won't be on this particular I'll be gone a couple hours,

452
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Speaker 3: Like you know Thursday, I'll go on Monday Thursday church service,

453
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Speaker 3: so I'll be gone an hour and a half from

454
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Speaker 3: this hour. Somebody also have to cover if something breaks.

455
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Speaker 1: I'm unplugged.

456
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Speaker 3: I'm unplugged for a little bit. So we kind of

457
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Speaker 3: sharing that, you know. I think we have Michael David Smith,

458
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Speaker 3: the manager enter. I think is on vacation right now,

459
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Speaker 3: but he's posting every once in a while when he

460
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Speaker 3: gets an opportunity and otherwise is doing his vacation thing.

461
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Speaker 1: See it's good if my family hears this, because then

462
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Speaker 1: they'll know that I'm not the only one who's always

463
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Speaker 1: plugged in or whatever. It's good Sharen Williams PFT joining us.

464
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Speaker 1: So would you like better this or the combine to work?

465
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Speaker 4: Oh? I like this much better.

466
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Speaker 1: You did good.

467
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Speaker 3: I just the weather's better for one thing. I mean,

468
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Speaker 3: I do like Indy that you can walk around, but

469
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Speaker 3: you know, the weather's better here, and so it's probably

470
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Speaker 3: better Indy too, just.

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Speaker 4: Because you know all the steakhouses and to go. Although

472
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Speaker 4: I get staked out a little bit.

473
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Speaker 3: But they're both. You know, they're both good. They're just

474
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Speaker 3: staples of our off season, and you know, you get

475
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,679
Speaker 3: the coaches and there's tons of stuff to post, and

476
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Speaker 3: it's it's fun. It's a fun time. And you know,

477
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Speaker 3: I love here that we get the tonight, we have

478
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Speaker 3: the gathering, the party, whatever it is, and it's in

479
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Speaker 3: a relaxed atmosphere and the food is great and there's

480
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Speaker 3: not as many people there and I like that part

481
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Speaker 3: of these owners.

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Speaker 1: I always tell people you might be on the shrimp

483
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Speaker 1: cocktail line with Jerry Jones. That's right, And it's a

484
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Speaker 1: weird thing.

485
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Speaker 3: It's weird, it's really and and you know, this meeting

486
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 3: used to be a lot longer than what it was.

487
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Speaker 3: You remember it used to be the families come in

488
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Speaker 3: and there were multiple cities. There were more cities involved,

489
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Speaker 3: Like I went to Mali twice at owners meetings. Gosh,

490
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Speaker 3: Palm Springs. Palm Springs used to be in the rotation,

491
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Speaker 3: so there used to be four cities, which was always

492
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Speaker 3: my favorite. But there used to be four city rotation

493
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Speaker 3: and now we're down to a three city rotation, which

494
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Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if I care as much

495
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Speaker 3: of the for the Florida sites.

496
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Speaker 4: As I do.

497
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Speaker 3: Ye do here, but it's hot here too, But I

498
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Speaker 3: don't know, it's you know, I I like the meetings.

499
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Speaker 3: I come into the meetings. It's relaxed atmosphere. Yeah, it's enjoyable.

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Speaker 1: People hearing us talk. You poor things don't get through

501
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Speaker 1: the mountains.

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Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, like if you, if you did,

503
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Speaker 3: this isn't something you enjoy, Like it's time to Yeah.

504
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Speaker 1: No, I would retire I agree. I would enjoy it

505
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Speaker 1: in Des Moines because of the people who are here.

506
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Speaker 1: It's outstanding. You know, the amount of media, the coaches,

507
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Speaker 1: the gms, the owners, it's amazing. What an array of people.

508
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Speaker 1: Uh what stories peak your interest the most here this year?

509
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Speaker 1: What are you? What are you looking at? Or do

510
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Speaker 1: you just sort of let it come to you? No?

511
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Speaker 3: You know, I think we look at the teams that

512
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Speaker 3: have changed quarterbacks and which while was that Kevin O'Connell

513
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Speaker 3: today and why I went over to Michael Fleur because

514
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Speaker 3: you want to get Kler, you know, Kyler Murray and

515
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Speaker 3: and that situation tomorrow. I think it's the Steelers, Yeah,

516
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Speaker 3: and a little bit of the Browns, although you know

517
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Speaker 3: they've talked to their team beat reporters already, so some

518
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 3: of that has come out onto Shaun Watson and what

519
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Speaker 3: the Browns are going to do with the position. So

520
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Speaker 3: but I still think it's a it's you know, people

521
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Speaker 3: want to read that. I think the Patriots, you know,

522
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Speaker 3: you talk to Maybe he didn't say anything about A J.

523
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Speaker 4: Brown because A J.

524
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Speaker 3: Brown is the member of the Philadelphia Eagles, as we

525
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Speaker 3: learned yesterday from Howie Roseman. As he kept repeating AJ

526
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Speaker 3: Brown is a member of the Philadelphia Eagles to every

527
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Speaker 3: a J.

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Speaker 4: Brown question.

529
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Speaker 3: But you know you have to ask Mike Rabol about

530
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Speaker 3: the trade for a J. Brown because they're in on that.

531
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Speaker 3: So you know, you kind of look at those stories

532
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Speaker 3: that are going to generate a lot of interest, and

533
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Speaker 3: there's others like I just did a post on Jonathan Brooks,

534
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Speaker 3: you know, which is relevant Texas, you know, coming back

535
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Speaker 3: with the Panthers, But those aren't as big as stories

536
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Speaker 3: obviously as the quarterbacks or the trade for a J.

537
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Speaker 3: Brown or you're kind of looking for those stories that

538
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Speaker 3: people aren't.

539
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Speaker 4: Most interested in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they want the headline makers for sure. With that.

541
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and I mean you could sit here and post.

542
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Speaker 3: We could, we could post all night with what's.

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Speaker 4: Been generated today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know, from these coaches, if you if you wanted

546
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Speaker 3: to do everything, we're not going to hit everything.

547
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Speaker 4: So you try to hit the biggest stories out of here, and.

548
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Speaker 3: There's tons, tons of it, absolutely, and you you know,

549
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Speaker 3: you also try to hit every team.

550
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Speaker 4: We all know some teams are more popular than others.

551
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Speaker 3: If we write something on the Cowboys, it's it's gonna.

552
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Speaker 4: Be super red.

553
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Speaker 5: You know.

554
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Speaker 3: If we write something on the Jaguars, which we've written

555
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Speaker 3: nothing on the Jaguars since we've been here. It's probably

556
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Speaker 3: not gonna be as red as much, you know, unless

557
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 3: it is a quarterback deal, but that there's there's none.

558
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Speaker 4: Of that with them.

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Speaker 1: So it's so fascinating to me. With the Cowboys, they're

560
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Speaker 1: gonna be at NRG Stadium this year, so we look

561
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Speaker 1: forward to that game. And it's the twenty fifth season

562
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Speaker 1: of the Texans. So first game in Texans history was Dallas.

563
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Speaker 1: But if somebody just didn't know anything about football and

564
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Speaker 1: they ask you, hey, this Dallas team, they seem to

565
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Speaker 1: be pretty I wouldn't call it popular. They are popular,

566
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Speaker 1: but they're polarizing. You either love them or you hate them.

567
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Speaker 1: But I looked up the records and they really haven't

568
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Speaker 1: done much in the last thirty years. So what would

569
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Speaker 1: you say to that person.

570
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Speaker 3: You know, somebody posted on x the other day about

571
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Speaker 3: they feel sorry for anybody younger than forty Yeah, because

572
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Speaker 3: they've never seen their team even playing a championship game ever.

573
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Speaker 3: And you know, they hear all about all this, how

574
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Speaker 3: the Cowboys used to be good and all of that,

575
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Speaker 3: and it's true, like, you know, they used to be good,

576
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Speaker 3: and that's how they got to be America's team.

577
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Speaker 4: And they were really smart.

578
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Speaker 3: Back in that day, and they won a lot and

579
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Speaker 3: that helped them become America's team. And now they just

580
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 3: kind of grasp onto that and held on too that

581
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Speaker 3: with no championships to show for it, which has been

582
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Speaker 3: just amazing. It's probably the greatest feat the Dallas Cowboys

583
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Speaker 3: history is the fact that they have remained America's team.

584
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Speaker 3: You aregue where they are, aren't, but the ratings and

585
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Speaker 3: merchandise sales and everything else tells you they are.

586
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Speaker 4: And the interest.

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Speaker 3: If you look at our numbers, they're the most popular

588
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Speaker 3: team in the NFL. But the fact that they've remained

589
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Speaker 3: the most popular team in the NFL without winning a

590
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Speaker 3: championship in the last thirty years, without even playing an

591
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Speaker 3: NFC championship game in the last thirty years, is probably

592
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Speaker 3: the biggest feat in team history in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: That is really well put. And the Thanksgiving game beat Alliant,

594
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Speaker 1: I mean it beat out the conference championships. I mean

595
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Speaker 1: that's incredible. So shows you the popularity, shows you the

596
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Speaker 1: kind of attention they get. What about the Texans? What

597
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Speaker 1: are you thinking here? Is you look from Afar at

598
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Speaker 1: the Houston Texas the sharene c J.

599
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Speaker 4: Stroud, what's he gonna do?

600
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Speaker 3: They had a chance to get to the super Bowl,

601
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Speaker 3: and I think they missed a huge opportunity, and I

602
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 3: think it was excruciating and disappointing that they didn't go

603
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Speaker 3: farther with the team that they had, with the defense

604
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: they had, that defense was so fun to watch. I mean,

605
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Speaker 3: it was a generational defense last year. I think they

606
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Speaker 3: can be close to that or as good as that

607
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Speaker 3: this year. But it all comes down to the quarterback play.

608
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Speaker 3: If you don't have a quarterback Kevin O'Connell, just talk

609
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 3: about it. You have to have a certain level quarterback playing.

610
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Speaker 3: If you don't have it, you're not winning in this league.

611
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Speaker 3: Is he gonna what's it gonna be? I mean he

612
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 3: hasn't been that guy. We saw his rookie season. If

613
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Speaker 3: they had had that guy this year, they won the

614
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Speaker 3: super Bowl at least gotten to the super Bowl and

615
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Speaker 3: it would have been an exciting super Bowl.

616
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Speaker 4: They need that guy back, however, you get him back,

617
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Speaker 4: that's who they need.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's that's the biggest story coming out of

619
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Speaker 1: Houston from where you stand, Yeah, Yeah, you.

620
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Speaker 4: Know, you get tanked all back.

621
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Speaker 3: Maybe you know if he comes back full force, you

622
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 3: know that that's probably gonna help them. If the offensive

623
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Speaker 3: line is better than what it's been, that's gonna help.

624
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Speaker 3: I mean, they just can't get that offensive line right

625
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: every single year. But if they can get that right,

626
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: you know, that's gonna help them. But it's all gonna

627
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: come down to their offensive I mean, we all know

628
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 3: that that's a great secret. How is that offense gonna play?

629
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Speaker 3: How's the quarterback gonna play? A team built around the run,

630
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: they're gonna run the ball pretty well, But how's that?

631
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Speaker 3: How's the quarterback gonna play?

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Speaker 1: I've got one more for you. You're a Texan from Beaumont, right,

633
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: I am from Beaumont. You've worked in Dallas, You've worked

634
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: around the state, You've covered everything in the state. So

635
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: from your youth to now, Let's say somebody says, what's

636
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: great about Texas Convention in Visitors Bureau of the entire

637
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: Lone Star State, and Sharen, you've got the message, what

638
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: is it about Texas? Because Texas is ever changing, so

639
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: many people are moving into the state. I think in

640
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: Houston since I moved here that the city of Charlotte

641
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: has moved into Houston or something like that. The amount

642
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 1: of population increase that's gone by.

643
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Speaker 3: So what do you think, Well, you know, I don't

644
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 3: know if anybody saw this on X, but it created

645
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: a huge controversy. On X a guy said, I'm a

646
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: Texan and I don't eat this junk, and it was

647
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: picture of Clochi's and it started a huge you know,

648
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: you're obviously not a Texan. And it turned out he

649
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 3: had moved to Texas from California. Ah, so it wasn't

650
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Speaker 3: a Texas So we didn't know anything about Colachi's.

651
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Speaker 4: He didn't know anything about.

652
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Speaker 3: Our food, you know, and when what our food means

653
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Speaker 3: and how many different foods we have in the status

654
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Speaker 3: you know, from from tex mex to barbecue to Kolachi's

655
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Speaker 3: to you know, the check influence in West that we

656
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Speaker 3: all know and all.

657
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Speaker 4: Those sorts of things. Uh So, you know.

658
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Speaker 3: But but I think the biggest thing about our state

659
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Speaker 3: is how friendly it is. And you can tell, like

660
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Speaker 3: who's from Texas and who's not from Texas when you're

661
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: out walking your dog and you'll walk by and you

662
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Speaker 3: tell somebody high if they're from Texas, they're going to

663
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Speaker 3: say hi back, and if they're not from Texas, they're

664
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Speaker 3: going to put their head down keep walking past you.

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Speaker 3: That to me is the biggest thing about Texas is

666
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Speaker 3: just how friendly the people are. But you know, driving

667
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: down the highway now, drove to Beaumont from from Arlington

668
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Speaker 3: five hours and I went the East Texas Way through

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Speaker 3: Lufkin and all of that instead of going down forty

670
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Speaker 3: five and this last time. And I had never driven

671
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: that before, but I wanted to see the blue bonnets

672
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Speaker 3: and the flowers and the azaleas and everything else the

673
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Speaker 3: scenic route and it's about the same distance and it

674
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Speaker 3: was just beautiful. And it's such a beautiful time of

675
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Speaker 3: year to be in Texas with the blue bonnets and

676
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Speaker 3: the wildflowers.

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Speaker 4: They're just driving on the highways. Cool experience and getting

678
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Speaker 4: and I know when I know when I'm home.

679
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Speaker 3: When I start seeing the pine trees, when I start

680
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Speaker 3: seeing the pine trees, like, yep, I'm home now.

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Speaker 1: See that's great. That was a beautiful job. As the

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Speaker 1: Convention in Visitors Bureau representative, Scharen, very nice, thanks a

683
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Speaker 1: lot for joining us, Thanks for having me. All right,

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Speaker 1: there's our Fred Scharen. Williams of PFT Pro Football Talk.

685
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Speaker 1: Coming up, Dan Leberfeld, Serious XM NFL Radio. Let's bounce

686
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Speaker 1: around the league a little bit, find out what's going

687
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Speaker 1: on with some of the other teams, Texans competition, and

688
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Speaker 1: the rest of it here on Texans Radio. Final segment

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Speaker 1: of the night here and it's a good one on

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio, coming away from the NFL Annual Meeting. And

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Speaker 1: we are brought to you by Mattress Firm, the official

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Speaker 1: sleep partner of the Houston Texans. All right, let's get

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Speaker 1: into it with Dan Leberfeld Serious XM Satellite Radio. He

694
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Speaker 1: does a show every Saturday. He has is Jets Confidential

695
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Speaker 1: website and publication going. And we talked about a variety

696
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Speaker 1: of things with Dan.

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Speaker 5: Dad. Good to see again. How you doing great. It's

698
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Speaker 5: always great to be arming the Vandy.

699
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Speaker 1: We go way back, we go way back. I hear

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Speaker 1: you on Saturdays too, still and a lot of people

701
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: will recognize your voice from Serious x SAM. That Saturday

702
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: show you do with Vic Carucci, which is a lot

703
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: different from what you do with your Jets coverage. But

704
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: you got to know the whole league right every weekend,

705
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the tough questions you got to dive in.

706
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: That's why you're here. You know.

707
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Speaker 5: One of the things we do in that show is

708
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 5: we run a lot of sound Like we have a

709
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 5: four hour show, We'll have thirteen fourteen soundbites. And what

710
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 5: I get out of that, because I'm the guy that

711
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 5: finds him during the week, I get a feel for

712
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 5: Like you're a coach. We run to make go ryans

713
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Speaker 5: all the time. I get a feel for the coaches,

714
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 5: not the press conferences or everything right, but it allows

715
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Speaker 5: me to get a feel for all these guys. And

716
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 5: then we had the coaches breakfast this morning, the NFC today,

717
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Speaker 5: at the owners meeting tomorrow the AFC. You get a

718
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 5: sense of what the people are like, how they communicate,

719
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Speaker 5: what their mindset. And it helps when you do a

720
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Speaker 5: radio show when you're talking about people, to have a

721
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Speaker 5: deeper understanding of them.

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Speaker 1: I put a few picks out from that breakfast. I

723
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Speaker 1: think people have to understand the magnitude of what happens

724
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Speaker 1: at these meetings, especially with these coaches breakfasts. It's a

725
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: swarm around all these coaches at all these banquet tables,

726
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: circular table seating ten and everybody hovered over them. Everybody

727
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: trying to get the latest bites. But for a lot

728
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Speaker 1: of these coaches, this is the first time people can

729
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: hear from them after free agency and those acquisitions.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like a very important observation today. Mike McDonald, the

731
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Speaker 5: coach of the Seahawks, The guy could play me in

732
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Speaker 5: a linebacker.

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Speaker 1: Did you see the shape that guy's Yeah, he's a

734
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Speaker 1: great seat. Your GM is unbelievable. The JPS. I don't

735
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Speaker 1: know if he's a bit of linebacker though.

736
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Speaker 5: But just not that that matters, But like it shows

737
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Speaker 5: you how hard he works. Yeah, not just at his

738
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Speaker 5: job running the football team, but probably he's in the

739
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Speaker 5: gym at five in the morning to look like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think a lot of these guys work

741
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: out a ton of them clearly tough, so who knows

742
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: what works best? You know, Parcels didn't look like he

743
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: was working out a ton, but he was a great coach.

744
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,719
Speaker 1: You just never know about all this stuff, all right.

745
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: So you tell me Texans don't play anybody in the

746
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Speaker 1: AFC East other than the Buffalo Bills, And I know

747
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Speaker 1: you cover this division very closely. Are the Bills going

748
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Speaker 1: to go back to being the Bills here? Because the

749
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Speaker 1: Patriots have their moment, they go to the Super Bowl?

750
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Speaker 1: Are the Bills going to rain in the division? Again?

751
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Speaker 1: Was this Patriot thing? A the schedule's not so hot,

752
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: they got hot. Everything worked out for them. How do

753
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: you see that division at the top shake it out well?

754
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Speaker 5: As the long as Josh Allen's there, Buffalo will have

755
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 5: a puncher's chance to win the division every year. But

756
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Speaker 5: what a tough job for Joe Brady. I mean, McDermott

757
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 5: did a really good job. The next level is going

758
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Speaker 5: to the Super Bowl. Imagine being a rookie head coach

759
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 5: and the bar is that high. Usually new head coaches

760
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Speaker 5: in places the bar is really low, and people are

761
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Speaker 5: happy with the incremental product. Joe Brady or Joey Brady

762
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Speaker 5: as he was called William and Mary. He was the

763
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Speaker 5: receiver at William Mary was doing research on him, Joey

764
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Speaker 5: Brady wide receiver Pembroke Pines, Florida. So he's the bars

765
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Speaker 5: high there. New England's going to be very tough to

766
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Speaker 5: duplicate what they did last year. You can't have any

767
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 5: control over your schedule, but it was not a murderer's

768
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 5: row schedule. But that's the bottom line. And then you

769
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Speaker 5: saw in the playoffs when they had to face st

770
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Speaker 5: different competition, it was harder on the quarterback. Better defenses,

771
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Speaker 5: it was harder on the quarterback. So I'm not saying

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Speaker 5: they're going to take a step back, but I think

773
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Speaker 5: it's going to be real challenge for them to get

774
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Speaker 5: back to that level. I think as long as Rabel's

775
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Speaker 5: the coach, they'll be in the mix. I think he's

776
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 5: a tremendous football coach. I don't know how the Tennessee

777
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 5: Titans ever fired a guy like that. That's another story,

778
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 5: but they'll be in the mix. I think it's a

779
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 5: two team race there.

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Speaker 1: Back to McDermott, were you surprised that the Bills did that.

781
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Speaker 1: I know they get frustrated about not breaking through to

782
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, but he was a hell of a coach,

783
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: did a great job, and somebody was talking about him

784
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: getting that kind of second chance like Andy Reid or

785
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Speaker 1: something where someday maybe he reigns supreme over another franchise

786
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Speaker 1: and they do get it done. But what were your

787
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: thoughts on that when they pulled the trigger on the departure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well this is called the NFL owners meeting, right, Yeah,

789
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 5: and owners these are not democracies. The owner can do

790
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 5: whatever the owner wants to do. And mister Pegoula said

791
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Speaker 5: it's time for a change. He saw Josh all in

792
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 5: the locker room. He couldn't even talk to him.

793
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Speaker 1: He was so.

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Speaker 5: Beside himself, the quarterback, and he said, for whatever reason,

795
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Speaker 5: that image made him decide to move on to a

796
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Speaker 5: different coach.

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Speaker 1: I think that.

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Speaker 5: I think their defense needs to change a little bit.

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Speaker 5: I think it's one of those defenses that Matt Mulone's

800
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 5: a hell of a player, but he always gets hurt.

801
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Speaker 5: Why he's six foot two hundred twenty five pounds, because

802
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 5: Sean always wanted those small, run around linebackers. That Terrell Bernard,

803
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 5: great player, always hurt about six two twenty five. I

804
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 5: think they need showing obviously, his fingerprints all over that defense.

805
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 5: I think they need a new defensive approach to complement

806
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 5: Josh Allen had to win too many shootouts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point, really well, said AFC South Jacksonville.

808
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: They roared to the top. I used that word carefully.

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00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: They got to the top of the AFC South. What

810
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: are you seeing in that division? You don't have to

811
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: be polite here about the Texans if you if you

812
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: don't want to, but what are you seeing in the

813
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Speaker 1: AFC South, Dan, I think.

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Speaker 5: That Jacksonville had an interesting offseason because they really didn't

815
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Speaker 5: do a lot, which meaning they went to continuity route,

816
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 5: Like we had a really good team last year. Let's

817
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 5: try to get the band back together, the same band

818
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 5: and run it back. The only guy they of note

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Speaker 5: they let out of the building.

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Speaker 1: And Devin Lloyd.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and running backs. I don't know what your

822
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 5: position is on that, but as we debate whether Jeremiah

823
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 5: loves how high he should go, some teams will never

824
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 5: pick running backs in the first round.

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Speaker 1: Other will. I think you'll only do it if it's.

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Speaker 5: A one cent a lifetime of transcendent talent like Bjeon Robinson.

827
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Speaker 5: But if he's not a Bjeon Robinson, wait in the draft.

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Speaker 5: So the point is I think they can replace hen.

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Speaker 5: Get confused with which h N we're talking about now.

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Speaker 5: As far as Devin Lloyd, that was an interesting move,

831
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Speaker 5: and you've covered a lot. You did a lot of

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00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 5: play by playing a lot of Devin Lloyd games. They

833
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 5: didn't put up much of a fight in that contract

834
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Speaker 5: that he got from Carolina. Wasn't crazy which makes you think,

835
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 5: what did they think about him? Remember, he was not

836
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 5: that good his first three years, Devin Lloyd, they didn't

837
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 5: pick up the fifth year option, and then he played

838
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 5: much better this year. But was it an aberration that year?

839
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 5: Maybe the powers that be and Jacksonville said, you know what,

840
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 5: he played well, but the first three years he didn't.

841
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 5: We're not giving him big bucks because maybe he was

842
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 5: a one year wonder. So I think Jacksonville is probably

843
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 5: gonna take a little step back because I think that

844
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 5: when you look at them, Liam Cohane is a really

845
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 5: good play caller. I just think it was a perfect

846
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 5: storm there this year, and I think with film of

847
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 5: Liam Cohne and Trevor Lawrence from the first year, I

848
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 5: think opposing defenses like the Texans will catch up a

849
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 5: little bit. I think they'll be good. I don't think

850
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Speaker 5: they'll be as good as they were last year.

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Speaker 1: What was your level of surprise in the AFC North

852
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: with Tomlin and Harbaugh both gone now, and it just

853
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: feels like a weird division because the dean of the

854
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: coaches now is Zach Taylor, and it just feels odd.

855
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: That feels off to me because he was a guy

856
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: who you thought might be on the hot seat, But

857
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: I guess injuries and whatever else takes over in Cincinnati,

858
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: and you know they'll run it back, try to improve

859
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: the team around Joe Burrow. But your thoughts on that division.

860
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: Texans play the AFC North this year.

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Speaker 5: You know, with Mike Brown the owner of the Bengals,

862
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 5: he's his own man. You know how many times do

863
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 5: people write hot seat stories about this coach of that car.

864
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Speaker 1: He doesn't care. Yeah, he look.

865
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Speaker 5: How long Marvin Lewis was there, Look how long zact.

866
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 5: He's not gonna fire coaches because of outside pressure and

867
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 5: they run things like we're at the owners meeting now

868
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 5: and the league's evolving and we have a new school league.

869
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 5: He is so old school. He keeps coaches a long time,

870
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 5: he keeps players the whole time. He doesn't do cash

871
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 5: over cap contracts, and that's one of the reasons why

872
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 5: sometimes they have roster problems like the credit card, that

873
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 5: he doesn't do that. So but as long as they

874
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 5: have Joe Burrow, they're going to be in the mix there.

875
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting talking about Baltimore. Baltimore SIML to Buffalo.

876
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 5: They're areing a rookie head coach to get them to

877
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 5: take the next step.

878
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,959
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Andandy, how much.

879
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 5: More pressure could a rookie head coach be taking over

880
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 5: a program that makes the playoffs every year and you're

881
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 5: doing this for the first time, and we expect you

882
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 5: to take us take the next step for us.

883
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: Like exactly, you get to the divisional round and that's

884
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: not impressive to anybody in Baltimore. They're gonna say, well,

885
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: we could have kept harbaughd done that right. If we

886
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: just stayed healthy, we probably would have gotten to the

887
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: divisional round last year. So it's an point quarterbacks, I

888
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: don't know how you feel about this, So let's go

889
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, justin Herbert. These guys who are not Joe

890
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: Burrow is regarded as probably one of the top two

891
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: or three, right even though he doesn't make the playoffs

892
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: every year because of his team, he gets a lot

893
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: of alibis and he does get hurt. But let's leave

894
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: him out of it for now. How do you feel

895
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: about Lawrence and Herbert and guys at that level who

896
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: haven't quite broken through.

897
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 5: You know, that's it's funny you bring that up because

898
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 5: Vic Carucci and I am my longtime host on Serious

899
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 5: XMNFL Radio. We have very heated debates on this topic

900
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 5: about market, the going rate in the market that you

901
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 5: have to pay it. Now your team is going through

902
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 5: that debate now with CJ.

903
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: Stroud.

904
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 5: When I always say to Vic, we all know what

905
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 5: fifty five million a year looks like. It looks like

906
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow, right, it looks like Patrick Mahomes. It doesn't

907
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 5: look like Trevor Lawrence. It doesn't look like Jordan Love,

908
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 5: meaning that Jordan Love's good, He's not great. Look what

909
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 5: happened recently to a fifty three million year. They're taking

910
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 5: the biggest cap hit in Lake history. They cut him,

911
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 5: he goes to Atlanta. When you look at the guy

912
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 5: who played right here in Phoenix, Kyler Murray. Yeah, they're

913
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 5: tremendous cap hit. Those teams shouldn't have done that. But

914
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 5: it's like this peer pressure and agent pressure. You gotta

915
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 5: do it. That's the going rate. You got to pay

916
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 5: him fifty three and fifty five. No you don't, Yep,

917
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 5: no you don't. You have to have the wherewithal and

918
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 5: the backbones to say no, we're not doing that, we're

919
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 5: not doing it.

920
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: Do you think there's some sort of inflation. Though where

921
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: now you said fifty five million looks like this? But

922
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: maybe because of the market, because these guys have gotten

923
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: that money. And I know it hasn't worked out for

924
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: everybody clearly, but are we in that universe now where Hey,

925
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: that's just the price of admission. Right to have a quarterback,

926
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: quarterback who's decent to good or maybe good to variable, well,

927
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: then pay.

928
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 5: Him decent, like whatever you think of Daniel Jones. Right,

929
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 5: that contract was said two years over forty Right, it's

930
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 5: basically eighty eight million guaranteed. So it's a two year

931
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 5: deal for forty four million year. Whatever you want, how

932
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 5: you want to break it down, that's okay, that's not

933
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 5: fifty five sixty.

934
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: That got sixty. That's not to me.

935
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 4: I haven't read of an.

936
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 5: Issue with that country. He got to pay the starting quarterback.

937
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 5: But to just automatically say we're paying Jordan Love and

938
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 5: we're paying too.

939
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: Uh.

940
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 5: Now you think I'm picking on Jordan Love, probably you've

941
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 5: watched it. I just don't see fifty five million a year,

942
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So I'll get I'll throw

943
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 5: it out board for you. And I wrote this recently

944
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 5: jets A going with Gino Smith this year, right up

945
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 5: and down track record. Daniel Jones just got eighty eight

946
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 5: million guaranteed Gino Smith, the jets A paging three million.

947
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 5: The Raiders are picking up the rest. Is Daniel Jones

948
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 5: better than Geno Smith?

949
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, at his best it looks like it. But Gino

950
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: at his best is really good too. You can make

951
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: that point, you know, with Seattle and the year before

952
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: last they won ten games in Seattle with Gino Smith.

953
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: Missed the playoffs, but they won ten games. Mike McDonald's

954
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: first year had Geno Smith look pretty good. That's why

955
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: the Raiders go for me, because the familiarity with Pete Carroll.

956
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: But it doesn't work out with the Raiders for a

957
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 1: myriad of reasons, of course. So it's a good question.

958
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: I would say Jones should be better. He's younger at

959
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: this stage, at his best healthy, but what is he

960
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: He's not healthy at the moment. It's going to be

961
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: interesting to see how they put it all together. Riley Leonard,

962
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: is he going to start the season just got married?

963
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,479
Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with it. Sometimes it does.

964
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: We'll see. It'll be interesting with the Colts, well, the thing.

965
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 5: With Riley Leonard is getting married. All that, we know

966
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 5: the characters off the charts. Sometimes when guys are married,

967
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 5: the focus is more on football. I just don't know

968
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 5: about him as a prospect.

969
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: He looked pretty good against the Texans in a quote

970
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: meaningless game in Week eighteen. He started and looked good

971
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: for the Colts. In fact, I'm sure that got them

972
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: thinking maybe we should have started them instead of going

973
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: for this Philip Rivers experiment late in the season. But

974
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: I kind of like the River's story, even though it

975
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: was the Colts that he was playing. I'm glad they

976
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: didn't win, but it was a fun story. While it

977
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: lasted to be about the Jets because you cover them

978
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: very thoroughly with Jets Confidential, where they headed Aaron Glenn Houstonian.

979
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: We love him, Aggie Nibit's high. What about the Jets

980
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: year two with Aaron Glenn?

981
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 5: Well, obviously year one did not go very well, and

982
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 5: that's an understatement. I like what they did in the offseason,

983
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 5: first of all, hiring Frank Reich. Who could argue with

984
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 5: that higher? I mean, not only is he a really

985
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 5: good play caller, three time head coach, you're talking about Indianapolis,

986
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 5: Carolina and the Stanford interim coach. Right, so as salt

987
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 5: of the earth human being really good play caller. So

988
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 5: not only will he improve the offensive play calling, he

989
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 5: will be a good bench coach for Aaron Glenn learning

990
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 5: the wise and whereforce of being an NFL head coach.

991
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 5: They signed eight or nine players on defense. Now they

992
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 5: weren't all big name players, but the Jets' depth on

993
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 5: defense was terrible last year, and you know how much

994
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 5: rotation goes on and also the injuries. They are much

995
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 5: better equipped this year if they have injuries, and also

996
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 5: of their d line rotation is much better. Their run

997
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 5: defense up the middle last year was horrible. And look

998
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 5: what they went out and did. They went out and

999
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 5: got David on On Yamada, right, the defensive tackle who

1000
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 5: played for the Saints and played then he played for Atlanta.

1001
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 5: And they got DeAndre Sweat who you know, Demandre Sweat,

1002
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 5: who you know well from Texas. You know, maybe he

1003
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 5: could be in better shape, but the bottom line is

1004
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 5: try running up the middle at that guy. So their

1005
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 5: run defense up to the middle with the Mario Davis

1006
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 5: and middle linebacker and On Yamada and sweat At defensive

1007
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 5: tackle will be much better.

1008
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: That's a really good point. That's a really good point.

1009
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: Maybe it works out for them, and we want to

1010
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: see Aaron have success, but not too much because he's

1011
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: in the AFC. All right, what do you make of

1012
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: eighteen games international play? We've got more international games than ever.

1013
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 1: We're gonna get eighteen or sixteen or whatever the number

1014
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: is going to be eventually when they get to the

1015
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: eighteen game schedule, what do you make of it? Damn Well?

1016
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 5: One thing we talked about on press coverage the other

1017
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 5: day was that whole thing where at the Atlanta super

1018
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 5: Bowl date has not been set. Yeah, that's an incredible story.

1019
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 5: When you look from a planning standpoint, if you're into

1020
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 5: event planning, to not have a date for a huge

1021
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 5: event in twenty twenty eight. The NFL usually has dates

1022
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 5: way into the future. Why is that the eighteenth game?

1023
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 5: Because if they add the eighteenth game, then that super

1024
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 5: Bowl date will be pushed back. But if you're the

1025
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 5: Atlanta Organized Committee, how do you book block off the rooms?

1026
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 5: How long can you block off rooms for an extra

1027
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 5: week before another convention says that The Electronics Convention said,

1028
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 5: wait a minute, we need some rooms. So that's angling

1029
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 5: towards an eighteenth game. But now with this new head

1030
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 5: of the union, Treader, who seems like he's gonna play hardball,

1031
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 5: I don't know if that and the union chief, the

1032
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 5: InterMune chief said we don't have an appetite for an

1033
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 5: eighteenth game right now. Obviously that's going to be a

1034
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 5: big conversation at the meetings we're at right now.

1035
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: There's my buddy Dan Leberfeld. I spared you some of

1036
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: the UMass talk because that conversation went on, and he's

1037
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: from UMass and I was there as the voice of

1038
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: the Mini Man back in the nineties, and we talked

1039
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: about a bunch of nil type stuff. But that stuff

1040
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: will either be aired on another day or end up

1041
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: on another podcast or something, because not tonight. We're not

1042
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: doing that tonight here at the NFL Annual Meeting. But

1043
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 1: tomorrow we will have Damico Ryans, we'll have team President

1044
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,959
Speaker 1: Mike Toman, we will have the mcnairs on the show

1045
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: all tomorrow on Tuesday Night's program Can't Wait. Have a

1046
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: great night everyone. Area forty five is next, Go Texans.