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Speaker 1: I want to specifically thank the Army. I want to

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Speaker 1: thank the Marines, the National Guard.

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Speaker 2: Our soldiers are military men and women who have shown

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Speaker 2: up here to help make sure that we have securities.

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, June twelfth, and Homeland Security Secretary Christinome

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Speaker 1: is holding a news conference in Los Angeles, California. It

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Speaker 1: has been several days now of ongoing protests across Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: People have come out protest against the raids by immigration

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Speaker 1: and Customs enforcement. Most of the protests have been overwhelmingly peaceful.

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Speaker 3: Joy is a part of our people's even when we protest,

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Speaker 3: we've got a joy that no one knows where it

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Speaker 3: comes from but it comes from the resilience of our

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Speaker 3: people who built this country, brown and black people.

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Speaker 1: There have been some violent incidents, but California Governor Gavin

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Speaker 1: Newsom and Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass has said the

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Speaker 1: situation is under control. Still. President Trump decided to call

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Speaker 1: the military into Los Angeles anyway, and that's also part

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Speaker 1: of the reason why Secretary Nome is holding this news

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Speaker 1: conference in order to reinforce the federal government's narrative that

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Speaker 1: Angelinos need protection from their own neighbors.

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Speaker 4: I do want to thank the men and women of

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Speaker 5: They've been absolute rock stars.

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Speaker 1: Tension has been growing since the unsolicited military intervention into

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Speaker 1: and journalists, and California Democratic Senator Alex Badiya wanted some answers,

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Speaker 1: so he walked into Nomes news conference.

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Speaker 6: I'm Senator Alex kadier I have questions for the Secretary now.

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Speaker 1: A few years ago, Alex Badya became the first Latino

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Speaker 1: senator for the state of California. He is also the

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Speaker 1: son of Mexican immigrants. But before the senator could even

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Speaker 5: Behind my back.

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Speaker 1: He is brought to the floor aggressively, and he is

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Speaker 7: Floor and it's those handcuffed.

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Speaker 6: And marched down a hallway, repeatedly asking why am I

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Speaker 6: being detained?

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Speaker 5: Not once did they tell me why?

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Speaker 1: And he asks a question on a lot of people's minds.

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Speaker 6: If that is what the administration is willing to do

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Speaker 6: to a United States senator for having the authority to

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Speaker 1: Back in twenty fifteen, when Trump was a Republican presidential nominee,

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Speaker 1: another Latino man was removed from a news conference that

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Speaker 1: is renowned journalist for heramos, excuse me, sit down.

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Speaker 8: You weren't called sit down, sit down?

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Speaker 5: Sit down?

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Speaker 7: Go ahead, No you don't, you haven't been called.

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Speaker 8: Go back to Univision.

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Speaker 1: So the removal of Padilla shows an escalation by the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration and his closest allies. We've seen this administration

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Speaker 1: go after journalists, go after activists, students, universities, and now

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Speaker 1: From Futuro Media and PRX, it's Latino USA. I'm Maria Josa.

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Speaker 1: Today I speak with California Senator Alex Badilla on what

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Speaker 1: state of civil rights in the United State. Senator Alex Badiya,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to Latino, USA, and thank you for joining

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Speaker 1: us from Washington, DC. You are in the news right now,

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Speaker 1: and so I just want to know how you're doing

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Speaker 1: because you're a father, you're a husband, Yes, you're a senator,

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Speaker 1: but you're all of those other things. And I'm just

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I'm doing okay, but you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 7: There's so many layers, so many dimensions to this. I mean,

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Speaker 7: it's not lost on me. I think the significance of

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Speaker 7: I think it has been important for me to continue

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Speaker 7: just making sure I'm processing top of mind or Angela

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Speaker 7: My youngest says, who's going to protect you?

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Speaker 1: All of this starts because Latinos and Latinas take to

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Speaker 1: the context in which you go to see Department of

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Speaker 7: Right and the people of Los Angeles. We've been through

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Speaker 7: this before, if we go back to the mid nineties

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Speaker 7: in Proposition one eighty seven. So yes, Los Angeles and

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Speaker 7: California knows how to stand up for our rights. This

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Speaker 7: is our history. We know what to do when there's

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Speaker 7: an administration that is exceeding their authorities and undermining our

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Speaker 7: fundamental rights. That's what led me to attend the press

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Speaker 7: So as things were getting tense, we had secured a

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Speaker 7: briefing not from the Secretary, but from representatives of Northern Command,

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Speaker 7: the Department of Defense officials overseeing this operation. So that's

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Speaker 7: what led me to the Federal building that Thursday morning.

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Speaker 1: Senator is going to meet with military officials from the

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Speaker 1: Northern Command regarding overwhelmingly nonviolent protests led overwhelmingly by Latinos

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Speaker 1: and latinas correct.

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Speaker 7: Correct, but also the role of the Marines, as this

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Speaker 7: administration has tried to do an immigration enforcement. This is

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Speaker 7: not why people enlist. They prepare and train to fight

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Speaker 7: And so I make my way to the Federal Building

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Speaker 7: the administration is viewing lies and tries to paint the

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Speaker 7: They escorted me over, They opened the door for me,

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Speaker 7: listening for I don't know what seemed at least five

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Speaker 1: Once again, what follows is the shocking scene most of

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Speaker 1: us have seen by now. So what does this incident

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Speaker 1: tell us about everyone else's right to free speech? Senator

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Speaker 1: by the Yea and I talk about that when we

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Speaker 1: come back, stay with us. Yes, hey, we are back,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to continue. My conversation now with Senator

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Speaker 1: Alex Badilla. We now have seen multiple political officials. Newark

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Speaker 2: The mayor of Newark, New Jersey, was arrested at an

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Speaker 1: New York City Controller Brad Lander also detained in a courtroom.

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Speaker 4: Brad Lander has been taken into custody by ice during

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Speaker 4: an immigration hearing in Lawer, Manhattan. Now we're told that

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Speaker 1: There is a specificity, and I know it's not lost

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Speaker 1: on you, Senator, when a Latino politician from California is

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Speaker 1: detained violently by federal officials. I just want you to

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Speaker 1: tell us what this is communicating to you and to

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Speaker 1: the country about the Trump administration being prepared to go

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Speaker 1: after people, including elected officials, who question him oppose him. Frankly, again,

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Speaker 1: just simply have questions.

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Speaker 7: I've been saying since the incident time and again. If

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Speaker 7: I probably represent California, but also so many people from

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Speaker 1: Senati, there was a whole conversation that Latinos and Latinas

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Speaker 1: voted for Donald Trump, and therefore we're responsible for Donald

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Speaker 1: challenging I Do you believe ultimately that what's happening now

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no doubt. Donald Trump would love nothing more than

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Speaker 7: has been through this before. I was inspired to turn

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Speaker 7: And when I say our community, I'm not just talking Latinos,

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Speaker 7: need to speak up. Proposition twe eighty seven, as it

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Speaker 7: recalls and many ways a precursor to the vehetoric that

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Speaker 1: To engage Senator Badiya. So after the incident at Secretary

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Speaker 1: full well that you are Senator Alex Bavilla, actually referred

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Speaker 1: to you as Jose Badiya. Now that is RACI we

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Speaker 7: I think that the California story is a good one

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Speaker 7: You have to choose to engage, you have to choose

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Speaker 1: Which leads me to this question. The administration, again continuing

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering where you stand on this right now.

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Speaker 7: I don't think we're at that conversation yet. Because of

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Speaker 7: We need to learn the decisions he made were based

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Speaker 1: Questions, Senator. As you know a lot of people across

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Speaker 7: So there's a couple of things I want to say.

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Speaker 7: That's what Donald Trump wants. Who wants to overwhelm us

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Speaker 7: some sort of action. For some people, that's maybe calling

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Speaker 7: Everybody can do something. And as I said in my

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how are you managing your state of mind in

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Speaker 7: Praying a lot number one, trying to find the good

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Speaker 7: The foundation that this administration has set for being able

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Speaker 7: This administration has been unchecked for far too long, and

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Speaker 7: they need to be more loyal to the Constitution and

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