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Speaker 1: as my bro Flame.
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Speaker 2: on speaking to the ground a second. We're gonna last
Speaker 2: come up and kick it in at the end we
Speaker 2: leave it with just a lifted spirits. Did you want
Speaker 2: to revisit?
Speaker 1: So your first second listen, kill folks so you slip,
Speaker 1: oh folks that we dig it?
Speaker 2: Hey, no this do what you do?
Speaker 1: No this do what you do? No this do what
Speaker 1: I do? No. Hey, this is Comedians, Say Monroe, and
Speaker 1: welcome to this week's episode of Laugh and Learn with
Speaker 1: myself and my gorgeous co hostess, Bobby Clifford. Highways.
Speaker 2: Honey, I wait every week to hear that because somebody's
Speaker 2: gonna say it, and you make me feel good.
Speaker 1: You're the best. Listen, Bobby, it's been a whirlwindover week.
Speaker 1: It has really been a good week. I cannot complain.
Speaker 1: I went to I did a red carpet. This Friday,
Speaker 1: Lady and I went to Jason Lee's The Impact of
Speaker 1: Wars that y'all know. Me and Jason Lee had history
Speaker 1: of being, you know, not friendly. But it was the
Speaker 1: bridge yeah uh he put. It was a fantastic event. Uh.
Speaker 1: I met so many celebrities there and hit me. I
Speaker 1: didn't meet them. They met me by me. They were
Speaker 1: coming to me, because you know, I don't go to people.
Speaker 1: I'll let you come to me. And our younger ben
Speaker 1: Zan who came to me and just blew me out
Speaker 1: the water that she knew who I was. Event, Nicole Brown, Jill,
Speaker 1: Marie Jones. I saw my people there. I saw Jonathan
Speaker 1: Major's and Megan Good and Megan saw me. She just
Speaker 1: screamed and ran up to me and hugged me. She
Speaker 1: wanted to pick me up, but she about she aside
Speaker 1: zero and I got a couple of numbers in front
Speaker 1: of my zero, so she damn sure couldn't pick me up.
Speaker 1: But she was so wonderful and pleasure I made yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you. I made Getty images and so it was
Speaker 1: a great event. Tiffany Hadish hosted it and she did
Speaker 1: a fantastic job. It's tetten of Tiffany Hadish. I am
Speaker 1: working with her tonight at the Long Beach lap Actory.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna get into this laugh and learn because
Speaker 1: I got work to do, because we're all prepping today
Speaker 1: and getting our meals together. Getting popcorn for tomorrow. Is
Speaker 1: one of the biggest events of this year. It is
Speaker 1: going to be the debate between President Joe Biden and
Speaker 1: ex President Donald Trump. Not just ex president, ex president
Speaker 1: twice in peach one term, thirty four criminal indictments, I'm
Speaker 1: not namn sorry, thirty four criminal charge. Yeah, all those
Speaker 1: adjectives that describe him. But I think it's going to
Speaker 1: be quite entertaining. So we're gonna see old man versus
Speaker 1: old man, because that's all it is. I have picked
Speaker 1: the old man of my choice, and I hope that
Speaker 1: the old man of my choice changes a lot of
Speaker 1: mind for the people who are undecided, who have not
Speaker 1: made up their mind, because I think he's going to
Speaker 1: be shot. I think is going to be precise. I
Speaker 1: think he has been getting prepared, and when opportunity meets preparation,
Speaker 1: you have no opportunity. You have nothing but to do
Speaker 1: but ween and Joe ben getting ready, right, other than
Speaker 1: out here talking smack jovin, getting ready to try to
Speaker 1: remember his lands, eating his weed. He's taking his riba.
Speaker 1: He know what to do.
Speaker 2: He's jacked up. According to Trump. Yeah, he's According to
Speaker 2: to Trump, he's jacked up. He's also to I don't
Speaker 2: know what kind of medications he would take. If he's
Speaker 2: taken performance enhancing drugs.
Speaker 1: Good for him, he's been I think you'll come here
Speaker 1: hot tomorrow, Bobby, I do. I think so too.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to decide who it actually benefits this debate.
Speaker 2: When when they said nobody in the audience and and
Speaker 2: the MIC's cut off, I was so excited that I thought, Oh,
Speaker 2: but they're not going to see you know, Trump always
Speaker 2: goes off script right and becomes a whack job if
Speaker 2: they if he doesn't have an audience to pand or two.
Speaker 2: I want them to still see that he's his His
Speaker 2: cheese has slid.
Speaker 1: Off the cracker.
Speaker 2: Will that work? My guess is he's going to keep
Speaker 2: talking even when they shut the mic off. He'll keep rambling,
Speaker 2: and he'll sound like a He'll sound like, you know,
Speaker 2: he's a little off there. So maybe there's a little
Speaker 2: bit of hope. But I hope that Joe has been
Speaker 2: He's been in Camp David for a week prepping doing
Speaker 2: mock mock debates. You know, he's actually putting the time in.
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton made a comment which I actually loved, and
Speaker 2: she said, listen, I'm the only person, the only person
Speaker 2: that has debated the both of them. She said, So
Speaker 2: you're going to have to sit back and look. She said,
Speaker 2: pay attention to how they talk about people, how they
Speaker 2: focus on the fundamentals that are at stake, and your
Speaker 2: choice really is Her quote was, it's between chaos and competence.
Speaker 1: So I love that, and she did, Yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: with Hillary. I think that I think that no audience
Speaker 1: is going to work in Joe's favorite because who's ever
Speaker 1: who d really him? As long as they tell him
Speaker 1: stay on policy, make Trump stay on part don't let
Speaker 1: him go there, keep calling him on policy because he's
Speaker 1: not gonna want to know what to do for an
Speaker 1: hour on policy because he's too used to cutting up
Speaker 1: at the five minutes. So as long as he forces yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because he has a dad, he can't stay focused. But
Speaker 1: if Joe drills him about policy, if Joe drills him
Speaker 1: about policy, Trump is going to lose it, especially if
Speaker 1: it's something that he has no no inkling of what
Speaker 1: he's talking about. And if Joe stay on that, he
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna come out victorious. I believe that now.
Speaker 2: I think I hope so too.
Speaker 1: He is.
Speaker 2: He has all that historical knowledge.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: They keep saying that, you know, so what Joe's gonna
Speaker 2: be trying to do is show that Biden is unhinged, right,
Speaker 2: and so what what? But Biden is, excuse me, the
Speaker 2: other way around. Biden is going to show that, try
Speaker 2: to show that Trump is unhinged. Trump is going to
Speaker 2: show try to show that, you know, the the economy
Speaker 2: is bad unto him, crime it's the best it's been.
Speaker 2: And I think they said thirty five years we've got
Speaker 2: higher gun controlled issues and gun violence. But He's going
Speaker 2: to try and hit him on immigration, which has already
Speaker 2: come up with immigration. And I'm sure Joe's just gonna
Speaker 2: snap back and say, listen, if you didn't shut down
Speaker 2: the bill, we would have already you know, had some
Speaker 2: sort of reckoning down there. I mean, they are saying
Speaker 2: that since he put since President Biden puts the law
Speaker 2: in order that more than twenty five hundred people can't
Speaker 2: come over the executive order that he did like a
Speaker 2: week and a half two weeks ago, that the border
Speaker 2: crossings have dropped by forty percent, which is kind of
Speaker 2: sort of impressive. So if he can keep touting all
Speaker 2: the things that he's done that have been positive, I
Speaker 2: think that I think he'll be victorious too, because he's
Speaker 2: got one hell of a leg to stand on. The
Speaker 2: only thing that Trump really has is was that was
Speaker 2: that tax tax rebade or whatever that helped the millionaire
Speaker 2: billionaires but didn't really help all of us in our pocket.
Speaker 2: I think it gave me eleven dollars more every week
Speaker 2: in my pocket. I couldn't even get a pizza with it.
Speaker 2: I think I might have been able to go to
Speaker 2: Starbucks and get a black tea, but that was about it.
Speaker 2: Where where I want to stand on.
Speaker 1: Why did they have to be black? Bobby? Why couldn't
Speaker 1: it have been a white team? Why did it have
Speaker 1: to be black? Because you almost made me say something, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go, So I hope y'all know we cut off
Speaker 1: over here. Y'all know we cut up over here and
Speaker 1: laught and learn, So listen. They dropped a hint that
Speaker 1: bite that President Trump ex President Trump maybe having picked
Speaker 1: his VP. Now I'm saying something and I said this,
Speaker 1: if you go back to healthy time, I said a
Speaker 1: few months ago that he was going to pick by
Speaker 1: Bake River Swami, the reason being not the qualifications, but
Speaker 1: he needed somebody who's gonna kiss his whole ass and
Speaker 1: do everything that they were told. He loves obedience, so
Speaker 1: that is the only reason I believe that he's going
Speaker 1: to pick Riverswami, because River Swami is obedient and he
Speaker 1: would do everything that he is doing. And after Mike Pints,
Speaker 1: he cannot risk somebody who will challenge him.
Speaker 2: No, But the problem was with the Rama Swami, and
Speaker 2: I think so too if it was he was a
Speaker 2: few years older. But Ramaswami unfortunately would be fighting him
Speaker 2: for the spotlight. He likes it too much. Even though
Speaker 2: he likes Trump, he loves being out there and getting
Speaker 2: the getting the glow in the shine. They're saying that
Speaker 2: the front runners are all similar to pens in a
Speaker 2: way that they're not going to challenge him. They say
Speaker 2: that that that Governor Doug Burnham from North Dakota, he's wealthy.
Speaker 2: Trump loves wealthy, right, So he's got to bring his
Speaker 2: wealthy friends to the table, and that's going to help
Speaker 2: Senator j d vance. He brings the youth, so he
Speaker 2: might be getting the millennials and whatnot. I think he's
Speaker 2: only like thirty eight or thirty nine and then Rubio.
Speaker 2: But the only problem with Rubio is, let's remember is
Speaker 2: that they say the Constitution says you can't have both
Speaker 2: people president and vice president from the same state. And
Speaker 2: they're both from Florida, so somebody would have to change
Speaker 2: they where they live. And I don't know as much
Speaker 2: as Rubio would probably be like to have his head padded,
Speaker 2: I don't know if he actually wants the job. I
Speaker 2: don't get that.
Speaker 1: Vibe off him, do you. I don't want him and
Speaker 1: I don't care what bad he is. I don't need
Speaker 1: him like that and not in the political scheme. And Bobby,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't pick Carrie Lake
Speaker 1: because she is not she is him all over the
Speaker 1: She is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she has she has to be able to
Speaker 2: keep her mouth shut while Trump's in office, you know,
Speaker 2: like whatever he says, that's what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 2: that he needs. He needs a yes, man, that's not
Speaker 2: going to kind of challenge him. They're saying that the
Speaker 2: talking heads, well, we won't know flame, but they're saying
Speaker 2: people in this camp who want to remain an honest
Speaker 2: that he could announce as early as just before the
Speaker 2: debate to try to throw to try to throw Biden
Speaker 2: off his game, or you know, definitely by the convention,
Speaker 2: but it could be it could be within the coming week.
Speaker 2: So we'll see. But the person is going to have
Speaker 2: to be able to raise money, you know, and appeal
Speaker 2: to the swing voters that are since the conviction, are
Speaker 2: starting to head back to to President Biden. So they're
Speaker 2: gonna have to They're going to have to figure that
Speaker 2: out in a decision.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said before on coffee time, and I'll say
Speaker 1: the game here on laugh and learn that I do
Speaker 1: believe that most American were the Trump supporters who have
Speaker 1: their minds made up. There's nothing that Biden could say
Speaker 1: that we'll change their minds because their minds are made up.
Speaker 1: Trust the independence and the undecideds that we are really
Speaker 1: trying to garner their vote, because people who are going
Speaker 1: to vote for each party have their mind made up
Speaker 1: whether they're going to vote for the party or not
Speaker 1: not necessarily a candidate, but the party. So now we
Speaker 1: just need Biden to come on and swing and sway
Speaker 1: them on. Vote for me the man. You already know
Speaker 1: that I'm a Democrat, but now vote for me, the
Speaker 1: man that's going to a help save democracy. B see women,
Speaker 1: b C, C, lgbt d C, social security, and EC veterans.
Speaker 1: Those are the very important talking points he has to
Speaker 1: show Americans because now they're trying to do this draft
Speaker 1: thing and we're having this they're trying to do. All
Speaker 1: we have to show young Americans male and female, that
Speaker 1: if you want to join the military, it's a great
Speaker 1: thing to do. But when you come home, when if
Speaker 1: you come home, because some don't come home, we will
Speaker 1: take care of you. To drill these policies and stay
Speaker 1: own it. Don't get dismayed and don't get disswayed. Because
Speaker 1: Trump is going to attack his family. He's going to
Speaker 1: go after Biden's heart. I need him to stay on
Speaker 1: policy and keep hitting him in his head with And remember,
Speaker 1: you had horrible things to say about bearers because you
Speaker 1: chose not to fight for this country because for some
Speaker 1: reason you said you had bone spurts but you're on
Speaker 1: the golf course and cleats every other day when you
Speaker 1: were the president. Remind us that that bone, spirts and
Speaker 1: cleats don't go together. Period. But okay, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: That's just me getting that's me getting hostile, y'all. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: come back slame.
Speaker 2: No no, no, But that's good, no no, no.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: We need that type of energy, and I wish you
Speaker 2: could give some to Joe because his campaign is, let's
Speaker 2: face it, it's been lackluster. He's doing all the stuff,
Speaker 2: but he's not his sarrogates or whatever you want to
Speaker 2: call it. They're not getting the word out crisply. These
Speaker 2: are the things that we've done because we need to.
Speaker 2: We need we need people to stop thinking he's sleepy
Speaker 2: Joe and realize that he does have energy. And remember
Speaker 2: that the reason that Trump lost the twenty twenty is
Speaker 2: because he sounded crazy on these debates, right. And I
Speaker 2: think Middle America and the people that you just described,
Speaker 2: the undecided and this the swing voters, the independence, they're
Speaker 2: sick of the drama. They're sick of the hostile and
Speaker 2: aggressive behavior.
Speaker 1: We've had it.
Speaker 2: We had it four years. We did it and let's
Speaker 2: remind him who he is. That's why I'm like, who's
Speaker 2: going to benefit? Because I think, in a way, I'd
Speaker 2: like to see him go nuts a little bit and
Speaker 2: then people go go, oh god, he's still him because
Speaker 2: he is.
Speaker 1: Ask your personal question for our listeners. Don't and you
Speaker 1: and I talk about everything offline, So I'm going to
Speaker 1: ask you personally. You as a white woman in this country, Bobby,
Speaker 1: and I know you have many a white friend as
Speaker 1: you may have something that's your for Trump, but it's
Speaker 1: your side, your your people, Caucasian that you know. Are
Speaker 1: they sick of this chaos bullshit? Because that is what
Speaker 1: the racism has always been here. But the chaos and
Speaker 1: the bullshit we live in, are y'all honestly?
Speaker 2: I yeah, yeah, I think so, we know. I noticed
Speaker 2: it more under President Obama. Now he started it. That's
Speaker 2: where I noticed people started. I liked McCain. I heard
Speaker 2: McCain when he conceded, and he was gentleman about that.
Speaker 2: But then his next line was to somebody, we're just
Speaker 2: going to vote against everything he puts in.
Speaker 1: Who does that?
Speaker 2: And that was unlike McCain and I and he gave
Speaker 2: him a little bit of trouble in the beginning, but
Speaker 2: he turned around and he certainly came forward in the end, right.
Speaker 2: But so I noticed a little bit of that behavior then.
Speaker 2: But Trump just kind of made it a free for all.
Speaker 2: He was the crazy uncle that you brought out that
Speaker 2: every nobody thought it was okay to start screaming and yelling. Yes,
Speaker 2: people are nobody can stand the division. I'm actually scared.
Speaker 2: You know, my family, my friends, they're scared, even if
Speaker 2: on both sides of the arm of the aisle. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's we're done. I want as much as Joe might
Speaker 2: not have energy, he's getting stuff done. I want him
Speaker 2: to get more stuff done. I would love if we
Speaker 2: could kind of swing the We could kind of swing
Speaker 2: the vote of like the Senate, or make everything even
Speaker 2: so that we can get a little bit more done
Speaker 2: and that he could fix some of the stuff that's
Speaker 2: been going on that hasn't been so great, some of
Speaker 2: the interesting I know.
Speaker 1: That President Biden can't I'm sorry, Robert, I know the
Speaker 1: President Biden can't say these words. She could say this
Speaker 1: in some from fashion to say that I'm trying he's
Speaker 1: trying to own your couchie when I'm trying to free
Speaker 1: your couchie, because what he's trying to do is take
Speaker 1: with all these abortion rights and all the power that women.
Speaker 1: Biden is trying to give you your freedom as a woman,
Speaker 1: and the other one is either trying to pay for
Speaker 1: it or take it, and I don't mean take it
Speaker 1: in a right way or take away your civil liberties
Speaker 1: as a woman.
Speaker 2: And that's only the start. It's just starting with the women.
Speaker 2: Trust me, it's going to trickle down to everything else.
Speaker 2: Who did say it, but said it in a more
Speaker 2: concise way was was doctor Jill Biden. And one of
Speaker 2: her things that you know I follow on Instagram potus
Speaker 2: as well as flotus, and she said, this is the
Speaker 2: first time in history that women are going to be
Speaker 2: getting less at the end of this presidency than they've
Speaker 2: ever had, you know, ever had in history. They never
Speaker 2: had it and had it taken away. They just didn't
Speaker 2: have it before. So we really need to we need
Speaker 2: to kind of band together because it's got, you know,
Speaker 2: with the Project twenty twenty five, and that's just not Trump,
Speaker 2: that is the far right Republicans. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff we're going to be losing, you know, they're getting
Speaker 2: rid of departments. They're consolidating, they're making the power the
Speaker 2: under the president. They're saying less less government, but it's not.
Speaker 2: It's less rights and less liberties. And I saw the
Speaker 2: person who didn't make the debate, who's very upset and
Speaker 2: thinks it's illegal. Is your new best friend, Robert Kennedy.
Speaker 2: He didn't get thee you need to be on four
Speaker 2: polls fifteen percent the four polls, he didn't get it.
Speaker 2: So what he's going to do, which is sort of clever,
Speaker 2: is he's going to he has an X channel and
Speaker 2: he's gonna simulcast like at the same time, he's going
Speaker 2: to be answering the questions that that the two other
Speaker 2: candidates are answering.
Speaker 1: So, and I want to say this about RFK. I had.
Speaker 1: I had the pleasure of interviewing with RFK on Friday.
Speaker 1: It's going to be it's going to be drawn. I
Speaker 1: didn't take it. I taped it, but it's not for
Speaker 1: me to release first until they released it because I
Speaker 1: did it for somebody else. And uh, I thought that
Speaker 1: he was such a pleasant man. I loved some of
Speaker 1: his talking points. I asked him three very basic questions
Speaker 1: that not basic, but very very simple, and Bobby gave
Speaker 1: me the question. So I'm going to tell you guys
Speaker 1: the questions so you'll see it when it comes out.
Speaker 1: The first question was, with all the division that we
Speaker 1: have with the party system, how can you what would
Speaker 1: you do to help me and us to get us
Speaker 1: back into a country that's own point? And that's just
Speaker 1: breaking it down because it was a whole long question
Speaker 1: that Bobby will These were questions from Bobby Clipper, my
Speaker 1: fabulous co host. She also asked me to ask him
Speaker 1: what was the second question? Bobby?
Speaker 2: How would he? A? Would he bring things together?
Speaker 1: How would he? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And what he would because because of the division that
Speaker 2: we were just talking about, I want to see what
Speaker 2: he's going to do. What is his what is concretely
Speaker 2: what was he going to do? I can't think of them?
Speaker 1: Answer was strong, They were unrehearsed, they were pure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you the way he spoke to me, Bobby,
Speaker 1: had he been in the running, had he been right
Speaker 1: here on the forefront, after talking with him, he probably
Speaker 1: probably would have changed my mind to get my vote.
Speaker 1: That is that is how he was talking. H Thirdly,
Speaker 1: next election, next election? Yeah, And I asked him a
Speaker 1: question of my own to ask him. You know, so
Speaker 1: my growing up in my home, my grandmother had a
Speaker 1: picture of a black Jesus, a white Jesus, Martin Luther King,
Speaker 1: Malcolm X, and she had John Fitzgerald Kennedy. You are
Speaker 1: part of a dynasty as far as politics goes in America.
Speaker 1: How can you get black and brown people to love
Speaker 1: you as they loved your dad and your uncle. Because
Speaker 1: black folks love Robert Fitzgerald Kennedy. They just did and
Speaker 1: cried when he was assassin and I wanted and he
Speaker 1: was very like. I don't know if I'll ever get
Speaker 1: reached that level of likability, but I hear I'm here.
Speaker 1: My dad taught me compassion. My dad taught me to
Speaker 1: see people in our color. Oh he was. He was
Speaker 1: smite one, brilliant with his answers. I cannot wait for
Speaker 1: this interview to job. You guys are gonna be thoroughly
Speaker 1: and I looked amazing. But he was fantastic and invited
Speaker 1: me to come along and do some things with his campaign,
Speaker 1: if you know, if it goes any further, so I'll
Speaker 1: tell him absolutely. I also asked him, not off the record,
Speaker 1: but on the record, if you lose. If there's a
Speaker 1: possibility that you don't lose, would you conceie and have
Speaker 1: your follower support one of the candidates. I didn't say
Speaker 1: a candidate because I did want to put him on
Speaker 1: the spot, but I did say support one of the
Speaker 1: leading candidates. And he said, I'll let y'all hear the
Speaker 1: answer when when y'all see the interview. I don't want
Speaker 1: to tell y'all what he said because it's gonna blow
Speaker 1: your man. Anyway, Come on, Bobby, where are we going?
Speaker 1: Because we haven't a short on this week. We're doing
Speaker 1: a special edition on Friday, y'all because we're going to
Speaker 1: come on after the debate on Friday and do a
Speaker 1: special quick recap.
Speaker 2: So the other thing, there are a couple more things
Speaker 2: we definitely want to mention today. So there were some
Speaker 2: primary elections, congressional primary elections that happened. I don't know
Speaker 2: if this is kind of like a litmus task for
Speaker 2: what November is going to look like, but this one
Speaker 2: was kind of a big shocker to everybody. Representative Jamal
Speaker 2: Bowman never remember, he's one of the squad, the Democratic squad.
Speaker 2: He actually lost his seat to another another Democrat, Democrat. Uh,
Speaker 2: George Latimer.
Speaker 1: And that's the.
Speaker 2: The first that was that. I don't know if anybody,
Speaker 2: because I know.
Speaker 1: Everybody. I'm not I'm not surprised to see that Jamal
Speaker 1: Bowman loft because Hillary Clinton back the other candidate. Jamal
Speaker 1: Bowman has some negative things about President Biden. So I'm
Speaker 1: not surprised by that.
Speaker 2: Hey, well, well he did. The one that I was
Speaker 2: I was disappointed with is that Warren Bolbert was up
Speaker 2: and she won. She won her the primary for for
Speaker 2: her seat.
Speaker 1: Lauren Bobert. Isn't that the lady who was giving the
Speaker 1: man a hand job in the theater?
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that was her. Maybe that was her hitch.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, she's she's a Republican, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she was apologetics.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look't think I'm going to becoming I think after
Speaker 1: this election, I'm wilcome a Republican. They all freaky over there.
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to the freaking side.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe if you're voted for, you gotta you got
Speaker 2: a large jug of hand hand lotion. Who knows. And
Speaker 2: then moderate conservative John Curtis, he won the Utah Republican
Speaker 2: primary seat because Mitt Romney is gonna be is gonna
Speaker 2: be retiring so to make the switch. So that's not
Speaker 2: saying that they're not going to have you know, there's
Speaker 2: not a Democrat out, but he won that.
Speaker 1: He won that.
Speaker 2: Primary anyway, so it'll be it's a little of interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But you know, the older Mitt Romney gets, the
Speaker 1: more I like him because he has come to a
Speaker 1: realization of being not only an American but a fair man.
Speaker 1: I don't know. The older he gets and the more
Speaker 1: he talks. I didn't like him when he was running
Speaker 1: for president, but I like him. I like this Roney,
Speaker 1: I like this.
Speaker 2: This was our governor. This meant Romney was our was
Speaker 2: our Republican governor in a democratic state. So I think
Speaker 2: we wore on him a little when he went to
Speaker 2: when he was running, I didn't recognize that mint. He
Speaker 2: was kind of flip floppy and.
Speaker 1: Whatever. But he has stood.
Speaker 2: He is He has told people, without getting into it again,
Speaker 2: they should be ashamed of themselves and go to the
Speaker 2: back of the room. He has voted, you know, along
Speaker 2: with the A c A stuff when that went when
Speaker 2: that went out, et cetera, et cetera. So uh So, anyway,
Speaker 2: that's that is about the elections and then Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: You know, it's very going to be very busy doing
Speaker 2: the abortions, the guns, and the immunity cases. I know
Speaker 2: that on one piece where is it? I was not surprised. Uh,
Speaker 2: they voted Okay.
Speaker 1: Trump is fighting hard for that immunity, Bobby, but he
Speaker 1: wants to get that president should have immunity. But that
Speaker 1: will be such a bite in the ass to any
Speaker 1: president that comes behind him, if we ever get one
Speaker 1: behind him, because let him tell it, once he gets in,
Speaker 1: it's a wrap. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, for day one, what they're looking at is
Speaker 2: they're looking at the Nixon, the Nixon paperwork and how
Speaker 2: that is because what they have said is so far
Speaker 2: all of them that presidents do need a certain amount
Speaker 2: of immunity to be able to do the job. Not
Speaker 2: over civil stuff, they said. So they're going to actually
Speaker 2: have to look and they're going to actually have to
Speaker 2: take a peek at it and kind of parse it out.
Speaker 2: I think it's why it's taken so long because for
Speaker 2: some things, yes, things that were actions that were taken
Speaker 2: that were in direct response for the country. Yes, it
Speaker 2: sounds like this is kind of the route they're going. Yes,
Speaker 2: that you'll have immunity, anything that could be a benefit
Speaker 2: just just you, yourself or just your party, No, that
Speaker 2: will not be You will not have immunity. So we're
Speaker 2: gonna have to wait and see. I don't think he's
Speaker 2: going to be as happy as he thinks he's going
Speaker 2: to be, because they do have to go off the
Speaker 2: letter or the lot. And I'll say, Roberts has been
Speaker 2: doing some stuff lately that I'm a little surprised. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm more pleased because I thought he wasn't going to
Speaker 2: go against it. In fact, he voted. It was an
Speaker 2: eight to one ruling for the Supreme Court on domestic
Speaker 2: violence and gun control that if you were a wife
Speaker 2: beater or any type of domestic could be a husband
Speaker 2: beater or whatever, you wouldn't be able to get a gun.
Speaker 2: And Roberts voted for that. He said it was common
Speaker 2: sense and after a judge determines an individual poses a
Speaker 2: credible threat of violence, they shouldn't be entitled to a gun.
Speaker 2: Guess who the one holdout was on a.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, Safett, I'm about to throw
Speaker 1: my wig off, but I ain't getting a wig on,
Speaker 1: damn it.
Speaker 2: You. Yeah, he was the sole thing was.
Speaker 1: The truth is Clarence Thomas has been bought, paid for,
Speaker 1: sold and used for years, for years.
Speaker 2: Condicted of a crime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did. We did not listen to Anita Heel
Speaker 1: in the in the early eighties, so that it's shame
Speaker 1: on us. You know, a woman who told the truth.
Speaker 2: You know why we didn't because they were the top
Speaker 2: of the top right flame. This is I'm going to
Speaker 2: make a comparison in a second. So you would never
Speaker 2: imagine that somebody was going for this position would do
Speaker 2: something that was so distasteful. Now, if Anita Thomas came forward,
Speaker 2: it would have been a very different outcome because we
Speaker 2: have been so saturated with the gun violence and the
Speaker 2: sex in the I mean, our president just had a
Speaker 2: trust money case to hide, uh, to hide a mistress
Speaker 2: for the Lord of God. Not the mistress.
Speaker 1: It was this.
Speaker 2: It was the money that he that he used. It
Speaker 2: was it was for paperwork. But you know, we would
Speaker 2: have been you would have been absolutely shocked by that before.
Speaker 2: And now it's like Tuesday. The gun safety and domestic.
Speaker 1: Violence groups are thrilled.
Speaker 2: They're considering this a victory, so you know, they can
Speaker 2: keep there some of their women and or men alive,
Speaker 2: rather than having these people armed, at least legally armed.
Speaker 2: If they're going to get a gun, they probably get
Speaker 2: it in different ways. So they have the immunity case,
Speaker 2: now they have the abortion case, and they have one
Speaker 2: more thing that they're trying to wrap up, and then
Speaker 2: they'll be done for three months, you know, the summer
Speaker 2: they get the summer off. Oh, the trans the trans
Speaker 2: health that's probably not going to be until hearing until
Speaker 2: our ruling. Excuse me, not a hearing until next year.
Speaker 2: But it's the first time we're going against what should
Speaker 2: be allowed and what shouldn't be taken away from parents.
Speaker 2: The rights shouldn't be taken a breaway from parents, So
Speaker 2: we'll see. I keep saying too, if you have decent parents,
Speaker 2: they shouldn't be allowing this stuff.
Speaker 1: But if you have parents, that's that are being parents,
Speaker 1: not just I have some that's it. That's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it being parents, not being friends, being parents.
Speaker 2: And that's again, guys, that's just my opinion. Don't be
Speaker 2: filling up flames. I just get nervous. I get nervous
Speaker 2: over just girls taking birth control, for the love of God,
Speaker 2: because it's extra hormones. They don't necessarily need. But but
Speaker 2: anyway though, that's what those those are the three things
Speaker 2: that they still have. So the abortion, reproductive rights, the
Speaker 2: trans rights, and the immunity cases.
Speaker 1: So that with the with the with the trans rights, Bobby,
Speaker 1: they keep speaking on they're doing this for children. But
Speaker 1: to me, that is the smoke screen. It is not
Speaker 1: just it is and that's why. So that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: They effectively, they're meaningly, they're effectively the adult. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: mean because there's way more adults on hormone therapy and
Speaker 1: than it is children. Now that's not to say that
Speaker 1: some student and I do not agree with it. As
Speaker 1: a trans person, I do not agree with trans with
Speaker 1: trance children taking any kind of hormone with your sacerone
Speaker 1: blockers before the age of eighteen, I want to say twenty,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying eighteen because you had the experience.
Speaker 2: You can speak, you can walk the walk and talk
Speaker 2: the talk because you've done it, so you know what
Speaker 2: the changes are and it's not healthy for the kids.
Speaker 2: You feel that they should be able to make an
Speaker 2: informed decision when they're of age, even eighteen, to be
Speaker 2: quite honest, but that's when we if we can fight
Speaker 2: for the country. I guess you can make the decision.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if that's necessarily your brain's not formed.
Speaker 1: And I want to say this because what y'all see outwardly,
Speaker 1: outwardly looking in you see, Oh, it just changed your body,
Speaker 1: but it changes your mind, It changes how you see yourself,
Speaker 1: It changes your heart, it changes mentally. It changes you
Speaker 1: mentally because you take two or three hormone shots and
Speaker 1: you think you're supposed to look like Mail and Monroe,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't. It's not that simple. And they sometimes
Speaker 1: when they dangle the apple in your face, they'll say, ooh, girl,
Speaker 1: get on these hormones. You're gonna grow some titts. Your skin'
Speaker 1: gonna be smooth. Your beerd ain't gonna never grow wooba wool.
Speaker 1: But that is not the case. Now. Your strength you're
Speaker 1: painting shrinks. Your beer may slow down, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: stop growing. If it's already started growing. Your testosterone count drop.
Speaker 1: This is from a trans woman's perspective. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it does for transmit because I'm not a trans man.
Speaker 1: But what it does to the body, your sex drive
Speaker 1: goes away. It can cause depression, It's so many different
Speaker 1: variables that you guys don't know about because all you
Speaker 1: see is the outer that ooh, you're getting purvy and
Speaker 1: your shoulders are getting soft with your skin is getting
Speaker 1: smooth when you grow on tits. But internally, some of
Speaker 1: these kids are not ready to deal with what it
Speaker 1: does to you and physical. The physical part of it
Speaker 1: is that when you look in the mirror, you don't
Speaker 1: always see what you expect to see. Even if you've
Speaker 1: been on hormones for a year, two or three, you
Speaker 1: don't see what you expect to see. And a lot
Speaker 1: of people can't deal with that. And that's what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not going against it, but I
Speaker 1: just want you to guys and know that if you're
Speaker 1: gonna look at the at the left fie, you have
Speaker 1: to also look at the right side. No, it's true.
Speaker 1: I heard that.
Speaker 2: And let's say these these kids actually want to stay.
Speaker 2: You might not have the answer to this, I want
Speaker 2: to stay trends as they get older. What if they
Speaker 2: biologically want to have kids? Would that affect their ability
Speaker 2: with hormones?
Speaker 1: Can you with hormones? And I'm not saying that you
Speaker 1: can't have a kid but uh, it's harder because I.
Speaker 2: Wonder if it hurts, it doesn't hurt the end, the quality,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That makes me nervous, Like that's something that you have
Speaker 2: to look into because you don't want to. You know,
Speaker 2: I live with someone that special needs.
Speaker 1: It's hard. You know. When I decided to have children,
Speaker 1: I had stop taking hormones for you. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was off because I knew what I wanted and I
Speaker 1: wanted to be a master at what I was doing. Ooh,
Speaker 1: it's level, y'all. I love now.
Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, So something else I just want to mention
Speaker 2: is I don't know whether to feel. I feel so
Speaker 2: conflicted over this one. I'm going to say his name wrong.
Speaker 2: Julian Assan. She's the wikileak guy. He he pleaded guilty
Speaker 2: to felony charges in the US, giving all these documents
Speaker 2: away though, like it's there. I don't know he is.
Speaker 2: He has been battling extradition for twelve years. He is
Speaker 2: going to have five years and a high security British prison.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, is that enough?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2: I think we caught him before anything really bad happened.
Speaker 1: But I don't know.
Speaker 2: But in his family, his family is hoping that he's
Speaker 2: going to get a presidential pardon. Who do you think
Speaker 2: they're talking about. They're talking to large one is going
Speaker 2: to get him.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of political prisons right now. We
Speaker 1: have the other guy who's on trial for in Russia
Speaker 1: who they said was a spy. What's his name? What's he.
Speaker 2: Was in New York Times Evan.
Speaker 1: Yes, and he's thirty two years old. He was arrested
Speaker 1: while reporting for the last journal. He has been locked
Speaker 1: up for a year and a half. They just showed
Speaker 1: him on the news that they had all this hair
Speaker 1: shaved off, and his parents said that they were really
Speaker 1: worried about his mental stress because you don't know what
Speaker 1: they're going through in those Russian prisons. You just don't know,
Speaker 1: and they have to keep up a smile whenever they're
Speaker 1: on public camera, noticement the camera. She was always with
Speaker 1: a smile, and we we didn't know what kind of
Speaker 1: horrific things that she went through because they cannot say
Speaker 1: whether they're in custody there.
Speaker 2: I don't know why. And he probably thought because a
Speaker 2: lot of people left, you know, when the Ukrainian War started,
Speaker 2: but some people stayed. And I'm sure as a thirty
Speaker 2: two year old he thought he could make his bones
Speaker 2: and he could now if he's convicted, and you know
Speaker 2: he's going to be convicted playing there's no way in
Speaker 2: how they're not going to find him guilty. Twenty years
Speaker 2: in a really hard prison. That's you want to talk
Speaker 2: about changes, And do you think he'll ever make it
Speaker 2: out the twenty years or do you think they'll actually
Speaker 2: let them go at the end of the twenty years.
Speaker 1: I think you will age him in three, if not already,
Speaker 1: because I see he looked he had to put on
Speaker 1: the smile for the cameras today, but when they shaved
Speaker 1: his head, he didn't look thirty two. He looked stressed
Speaker 1: and forty. Because in a situation where you don't know
Speaker 1: what is your faith is what's going to happen to you,
Speaker 1: of course you're worried about it. Of course you stressed
Speaker 1: out about it. And this is not he's not on
Speaker 1: American so he's in Russia while we're there in the
Speaker 1: Middle level war where they they're in a middle ready
Speaker 1: to do something to us. Is it's just a bad time.
Speaker 1: It's a really bad and even though the United States
Speaker 1: government offered to do a prisoner swap, they're not even
Speaker 1: down for that. That's what really makes.
Speaker 2: It's cleary, you say, it's the overplay for the underplay.
Speaker 2: As you say, they're holding hand because they want to
Speaker 2: see if something's going to happen with us, because they'll
Speaker 2: never probably do something horrific to them on air or something,
Speaker 2: you know, something crazy. Speaking on air and a TV interview,
Speaker 2: Netanyahu said that he thinks that the intense phase of
Speaker 2: the war is over, but they're going to be moving
Speaker 2: to the northern border with Lebanon.
Speaker 1: When will it end.
Speaker 2: Thousand people?
Speaker 1: That sounds preponderous, the intense phase of the war. How
Speaker 1: about the war is over? You know? Such a thing
Speaker 1: is that people are still dying until is gone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hate war, I do.
Speaker 2: Too, But it's affecting that Unfortunately, it's affecting I we
Speaker 2: wedn't have to talk about it. Only it's affecting the
Speaker 2: elections because people are angry with Joe Biden for a
Speaker 2: war that he didn't start. He is backing our ally
Speaker 2: because Hamas, everybody forgets Hamas went in and did horrible,
Speaker 2: horrific things and started this off. But in the meantime,
Speaker 2: the collateral damage or you know, eight hundred thousand people
Speaker 2: who have they have nowhere to go. They don't even
Speaker 2: even if you brought them to where their street used
Speaker 2: to be, there's nothing but a gaping hole like this.
Speaker 2: They have nothing to start with. They they have nothing.
Speaker 2: We can't even get food to them. It's still one
Speaker 2: of the biggest humanitarian crises other than over in Africa.
Speaker 2: I think Kenya is the second most crazy. And then
Speaker 2: the only other thing that we want to talk about
Speaker 2: is and this is no surprise. Vivic Murphy has been
Speaker 2: a busy boy. He now is saying that gun violence
Speaker 2: is he's declaring in a national public health crisis. I
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to change anybody.
Speaker 1: Forty six years too late, isn't he, you know, Bob,
Speaker 1: that we have better gun control, we wouldn't have all
Speaker 1: these crazy shootings other countries. It's a rarity that they have. Now,
Speaker 1: it's a rarity. It's common. It's commonplace here in the States.
Speaker 2: Oh it's I mean, it's not, that's what they're saying.
Speaker 2: It's in other high income countries with the worst.
Speaker 1: We're like the worst.
Speaker 2: So we got to figure we got to figure it out.
Speaker 2: So yeah, anyway, that that's about I'm looking the only
Speaker 2: other thing wise.
Speaker 1: Oh go ahead, no, no, you finished that.
Speaker 2: The only other thing was this is just data. So
Speaker 2: it's not surprising so under our reproductive rights section that Texas,
Speaker 2: because they've all been banded abortions, that the rise in
Speaker 2: newborn deaths has been unbelievable. Of course, because they're not
Speaker 2: they're not terminating the pregnancies upfront. They're being made to
Speaker 2: hold the pregnant to the end, and they're not viable pregnancies.
Speaker 2: This is the reason these women would not be having
Speaker 2: an abortion, only that they don't want their children to suffer.
Speaker 2: But they're going to be looking into that a little
Speaker 2: bit more so the much mortality way.
Speaker 1: It's super sad stuff. That is your talking point for tomorrow.
Speaker 1: President by I need you to stand with me and
Speaker 1: I need biological women. If you guys are listen to
Speaker 1: me here on leave of learning, but I need y'all
Speaker 1: to hear Joe Biden tomorrow. He's talking to you, and
Speaker 1: he's talking for you. He's talking, he's speaking up for
Speaker 1: you because hear me and hear me. Well, Joe Biden
Speaker 1: is gonna be the saving grace for women in this
Speaker 1: country right now. I don't know what's going to happen
Speaker 1: in four more years, but I do know what will
Speaker 1: happen in the next two years. If you put the
Speaker 1: wrong person in an office and I'm telling you the
Speaker 1: rights of you being a woman, and all this identity
Speaker 1: crisis and all this me too movie, all of that
Speaker 1: will go away, All of that will be It will
Speaker 1: be children's season on women. I believe that it will
Speaker 1: be open season and on women to do whatever you
Speaker 1: want to do and freely get away with it. I
Speaker 1: hate to say it like that, but it's because it
Speaker 1: sounds so messed up. But I don't know what you
Speaker 1: women are hearing when you listen to that other one speak,
Speaker 1: because your concern is not for him. The only thing
Speaker 1: that you have that he wants is what is between
Speaker 1: your legs, and he does not want you to have
Speaker 1: control of that. He wants you to tell you when
Speaker 1: you can and when you cannot. And I know plenty
Speaker 1: of women who will tell you, you don't tell me
Speaker 1: what I can do. This belongs to me, and I
Speaker 1: need y'all to remember that it belongs to you, so
Speaker 1: own it and make sure you continuously own it by
Speaker 1: voting blue and voting for Joe Biden. No, he is
Speaker 1: not my favorite, but the other one is my least favorite.
Speaker 1: And we only have two options at this point. Had
Speaker 1: we had another option, even RFK, who's not even in
Speaker 1: a debate, but he's still in the running, maybe I
Speaker 1: would have seen something differently. But from what I see
Speaker 1: what I have right now, my option is red or blue.
Speaker 1: I'm going with the blue because the Blue sees me
Speaker 1: here's me, understands me, and respects me. The other one,
Speaker 1: I'm nothing. Are you nothing? Nothing? Are you nothing? That's
Speaker 1: the name of this episode. I'm nothing? Are you nothing?
Speaker 1: Because I'm something. I'm damn show something. I'm something else.
Speaker 2: He I'm gonna channel my interflame Monroe. Joe needs to
Speaker 2: go tomorrow and he needs to stand on business.
Speaker 1: And for all you people, that's hoping, hoping and voting
Speaker 1: goes hand in hand, because hoping you're no voting ain't
Speaker 1: gonna work. It's hope and vote. You already prayed up,
Speaker 1: hope and vote. Let's hope and vote, ladies. Jam thank
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