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Speaker 1: week when all the agents are talking with the gms,

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Speaker 1: who then kind of find out the rate for their

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Speaker 1: guy from maybe their given team. They start going to

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Speaker 1: other teams. They go, hey, what would you pay my guy?

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Speaker 1: And that's why there are no rules, the tampering rules.

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Speaker 1: Like everyone's talking about everything as they should, you know,

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna see some rumors about trades like Jalen Ramsey.

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Speaker 1: That makes sense. The Rams don't have any assets. The

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Speaker 1: only way they can free some space and get some

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Speaker 1: picks is Jalen Ramsey because they're not training the other guys.

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Speaker 1: But you're gonna see names of you know whoever your

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Speaker 1: team is. Wait, they're shopping this guy. Well, yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: just doing it because they need to either gain some

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Speaker 1: cap room or they're not willing to pay him what

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Speaker 1: he's on the books. And he's not going to take

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Speaker 1: a pay cut because he knows through his agent that

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Speaker 1: he's worth more on the open market. So it's It's

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Speaker 1: a fascinating time kind of give and take and kind

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Speaker 1: of betting on the rumors because you never truly know

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Speaker 1: until you hit the market. Right, Derek Carr bet I

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Speaker 1: could get more money than forty million dollars. He's about

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Speaker 1: to find out, and he's kind of getting a gage

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Speaker 1: right now. He's meeting with all these teams. But eventually,

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Speaker 1: when the contract, the rubber's gonna meet the road, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: what is Jimmy Garoppolo worth? Well, we're gonna find out

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Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks, right, I'd say about eighteen.

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Speaker 1: But if someone gives them thirty, I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: be shocked, though, I will call that a dumb deal. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's dive into the mailbag. It's very easy to get involved.

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Speaker 1: There's only one way to get your question answered here

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Speaker 1: on the show. You fire into my direct messages on

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Speaker 1: Instagram at John Middlecoff it's my name. Fire into those dms,

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Speaker 1: get your question answered here on the show. Very very

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Speaker 1: easy to do. Let's start with my guy, David. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm sixteen and ben listening to you and Colin Quote

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Speaker 1: every day since I was about twelve. This guy's ahead

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Speaker 1: of his time. I was just wondering how you feel

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Speaker 1: about the failure of the Russell Wilson trade and how

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Speaker 1: it will affect the f future of trading for and

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Speaker 1: giving up the farm for a veteran quarterback. I think

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Speaker 1: someone of Russell Wilson's stature thirty two, thirty three, thirty one,

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Speaker 1: that age range, who is as accomplishes him. Every team

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Speaker 1: in the NFL would do a deal like that that

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Speaker 1: was desperate for a quarterback. The Broncos, the Panthers, the Colts,

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Speaker 1: you and me if we were running the team. So

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Speaker 1: I listen when the trade was executed. I understand why

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Speaker 1: the Broncos did it. Now, this is always my thing.

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Speaker 1: It's like people love to brag about the process. We're

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Speaker 1: in a results oriented business, so I want to hear

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Speaker 1: about Nick Saban's process. I want to hear about Jeff Bezos' process.

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Speaker 1: Ultimately the process from the Broncos, Like, I get why

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Speaker 1: you did it, but now you're in this predicament. Did

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Speaker 1: you give him that contract? Obviously once you make the trade,

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Speaker 1: you go, well, you gotta lock him up to a

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Speaker 1: long term deal. Well, did you see him in the offseason?

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Speaker 1: Do you look normal to you? I'd be fascinated if

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Speaker 1: you gave whether it would be the coaches on the staff,

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Speaker 1: George Peyton, anyone around the team on a daily basis,

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Speaker 1: even an older player. Did it feel like he was

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Speaker 1: a little off or was it like, nah, it just

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Speaker 1: looks like Russell Wilson. And then the games it all

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Speaker 1: got derailed because if there were question marks like he

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Speaker 1: was a little off, and they still pulled the trigger

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Speaker 1: when the guy was under contract, that was clearly mistake.

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Speaker 1: I got you make the trade like, that's just what

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Speaker 1: you gotta do. If you're the Denver Broncos. Now you

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Speaker 1: just gotta pray to God that Sean Payton can figure

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Speaker 1: it out. Fort Collins, Colorado from Troy. You mentioned in

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Speaker 1: your last podcast that some people may say you don't

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Speaker 1: have enough emotions. Sometimes from a personal level, your podcast

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Speaker 1: provided me with plenty emotions, and I really enjoy listening

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Speaker 1: to you. The passion you speak that is apparent that

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Speaker 1: you apply the many aspects of your life. As twenty

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Speaker 1: three year old myself, you are inspiring me to this

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Speaker 1: is not gonna lie like this, DM passionate about all

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Speaker 1: areas of my life. Whether you see this or not,

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Speaker 1: I want you to know that you are impacting people

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Speaker 1: in a way that is inspirational. God bless you, brother,

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Speaker 1: God Troy, you want to be friends. I agree that

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Speaker 1: with you that Justin Fields will be dealt. If Justin

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Speaker 1: Fields gets traded to the Ravens, what does Fields market

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Speaker 1: look like financially when he's due for an extension. He's

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Speaker 1: obviously not worth as much as Lamar as of right now.

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Speaker 1: If Ravens trade for him, are they expecting to resign

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Speaker 1: him when he's due for an extension. When I made

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Speaker 1: my emotion statement, it was more about like relationships and

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Speaker 1: probably even in business too, not about my emotional delivery

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Speaker 1: for the podcast. It was more about other aspects of

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Speaker 1: my life, not this because I'm an emotional guy for sure.

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Speaker 1: Up to your question, I appreciate the note by the way,

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Speaker 1: I would say that no one is even contemplating Justin

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Speaker 1: Fields extensions right now. It's just if you traded for him,

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Speaker 1: And to me, I think a fair value for Justin

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Speaker 1: Fields would be like a second and a conditional depend

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Speaker 1: on what he did, like it could be a two

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Speaker 1: and next year's four, but it could be as two

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Speaker 1: and a high as a one, like if he's a

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl guy, and we make the playoffs. I'd give

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Speaker 1: a second in a first round pick for Justin Fields,

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Speaker 1: but I you're acquiring him to basically get two years

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Speaker 1: with the guy and figure out what he's bringing to

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Speaker 1: the table because you probably loved him coming out. Now,

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Speaker 1: one curveball is after the third season, you have to

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Speaker 1: pick up his fifth year option. So part of trading

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Speaker 1: for him would be, you know, if you traded a lot, right,

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Speaker 1: if I gave a second and a conditional pick, that

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Speaker 1: could be really high. I'm also with the potential of

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Speaker 1: picking up that fifth year option, which from a quarterback

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Speaker 1: is pretty expensive, and we know sometimes you regret that, right,

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, guys that come to mind that

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Speaker 1: had their fifth year options picked up that I think

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Speaker 1: obviously the Browns and you know the Panthers would like

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Speaker 1: a redo on that. I think it's more for a

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Speaker 1: trial run for a guy who is still relatively cheap. Right.

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Speaker 1: He was the eleventh pick in the draft sandwich between

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Speaker 1: who's the sandwich between DeVante Smith and Mike Parsons, So

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Speaker 1: those are pretty two pretty good players. This is from Luke,

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Speaker 1: big Charger fan. They're in cap hell right now and

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Speaker 1: still need to extend Herbert bring back some key free agents.

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Speaker 1: Do you see them cutting Keenan Allen or Khalil Mack.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Keenan still has some good years left

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Speaker 1: and desperate team might trade a Day two pick for him.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you trade for Khalil Mack, right, you

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00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: just traded a second round pick for him. Your defense

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Speaker 1: is still an issue. He can still play the run,

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Speaker 1: his pass rush is not anywhere near what he once was.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you would like to restructure the contract a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but it's harder to find Khalil Max than it is

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Speaker 1: Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen's had an awesome career. I think

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Speaker 1: it's probably over for him, and with the Chargers almost

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Speaker 1: at San Diego, but obviously they play in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: People you know it's I think people around the league,

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Speaker 1: people that cover the league. It's kind of been well

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Speaker 1: speculated now for like a month that Keenan Allen will

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Speaker 1: be released. If he can't be traded. The reason he

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Speaker 1: won't be traded, I'd have to pull up his contract.

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Speaker 1: This is the problem that it's hard to trade. If

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Speaker 1: you're a team and you want Keenan Allen Let's say

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Speaker 1: I'm think of a team that needs a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying. It's hard to sometimes on the fly.

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Speaker 1: Let's say you're the Packers. You're like, you know, I'd

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Speaker 1: love to get Keenan Allen here in here with some

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Speaker 1: of our young guys. You go, well, are we going

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Speaker 1: to trade for Keenan Allen whose cap hit is twenty

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Speaker 1: one million dollars and is oh nineteen million dollars? You

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Speaker 1: can't do that, now, find the Packers. Hey, Keenan, if

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Speaker 1: you get caught, we'll offer you two years, you know,

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Speaker 1: twenty three million dollars, so eleven million dollars a year, right,

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Speaker 1: guarantee every penny. I'm just throwing out hypotheticals. That's the

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Speaker 1: conversations that are happening right now. No one is paying

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Speaker 1: Keenan Allen nineteen million dollars a year next year. But

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Speaker 1: he doesn't suck. He's just not worth nineteen million dollars

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Speaker 1: a year. For example, he made sixteen and a half

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Speaker 1: this year. You know, I don't know what was his stats,

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Speaker 1: probably not great actually because he had the hamstring this year.

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Speaker 1: So like this year, he was sixty six catches and

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Speaker 1: four touchdowns last year when he was healthy, one hundred

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Speaker 1: and six catches, six touchdowns. He's a really productive player.

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Speaker 1: You put Keenan Allen with Jordan Love because Aaron's gone.

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Speaker 1: Dobbs and Christian Watson kind of like there's kind of

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Speaker 1: like their passing game. You like how I just put

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Speaker 1: him on the Packers. But that's that's what's happening right now.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna get traded because of the money, So

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Speaker 1: he's gonna at that number. He's getting cut. He is

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Speaker 1: a tradeable player, but the money makes him untradable. You

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Speaker 1: follow what I'm trying to say. Guys like him get cut,

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Speaker 1: not because they suck. Love the show refreshing, takes no bullshitta.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting some good dms here. Just became a golf

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Speaker 1: fan lately as I love gambling and needed a vice

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Speaker 1: to hold me until football. After football ends, by far

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Speaker 1: the best sports to gamble on outside football, anyway, Do

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Speaker 1: you really think Rom's that much better this year? I

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Speaker 1: do not, Just like Roy last year. I firmly believe

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Speaker 1: they are winning because the top talents are now at Live.

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Speaker 1: Think about it, DJ cam Smith, Nieman, Louie Kepka, a

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Speaker 1: lot of golf talk here. Forty seven year old tiger,

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Speaker 1: no majors in ten years. Rory the Fierce Speeth would

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Speaker 1: love to hear your thoughts because of live Cam Smith

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Speaker 1: as stud just send some screenshots a lot of golf

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Speaker 1: talk here. Yeah, I mean keep this short and sweet.

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Speaker 1: The live defections have infected or impacted the PGA Tour.

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Speaker 1: At the top, DJ is still a top ten player.

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Speaker 1: If you want some gambling advice and you listen to

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Speaker 1: this for football takes, I would I would take DJ

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Speaker 1: at the Masters if you can get him twenty five

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Speaker 1: to one. If Dustin Johnson was on the PGA Tour,

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Speaker 1: that number would be cut in half. He'd be like

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Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen to one. For example, John Rom this

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Speaker 1: week in a loaded field is like six and a

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Speaker 1: half to one. If I can get DJ after Masters

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Speaker 1: at twenty five to one, I like it now. Cam Smith,

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Speaker 1: elite player, KEPKA winner, Bryson, you know, falling off a

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Speaker 1: cliff Nieman. Yeah. Just I think Rom is better right

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Speaker 1: now than he was last year. For sure. I guess

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Speaker 1: that's a long winded way of saying that I think

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Speaker 1: that he benefits clearly, but he's the best player in

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Speaker 1: the world routine listener, do you think the CMC this

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Speaker 1: is from bow trade to the Niners for that Hall

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Speaker 1: could potentially influence teams to addle will more value back

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Speaker 1: to the running back position, specifically running backs who possess

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Speaker 1: elite pass catching skills. CMC effectively unblocked that offense to

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Speaker 1: a new level of efficiency. I think in the modern

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Speaker 1: day NFL the last several years, the guys that could catch,

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Speaker 1: you know, Alvin Kamara, obviously McCaffrey for several years, even

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Speaker 1: in Carolina. I think Dalvin Cook's pretty good out of

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Speaker 1: the backfield. You know, Josh Jacobs last years is a

632
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Speaker 1: pretty well rounded player. You have to bring value in

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Speaker 1: everything right Like ETN for example, he was a first

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Speaker 1: round pick. If you're a Jacks fan, you know I'd

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Speaker 1: be lying if I said I watched every Etn snap.

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Speaker 1: But it feels like ideally he's more of a hybrid

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00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: back right outside runs, He's got great speed, catch the ball,

638
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: use him to stretch the defense. You're not gonna go

639
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: like Derrick Henry, line him up and just hammer between

640
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: the tackles. But if I I can catch wheel routes, screens,

641
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: outside runs, I have a lot of value. Now, like McCaffrey,

642
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: I can line up at wide receiver in the slot.

643
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: I can run between the tackles, outside the tackles, and

644
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: I can catch. There's nothing I can't do, right, Like

645
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: what makes Debo so valuable. He's not a great wide receiver,

646
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 1: but he can play wide receiver, and he can take

647
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: a five yard out to the house, and he can

648
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: also play running back. So his value is different than

649
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: just a flawed wide receiver because he's so good with

650
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands and he's comfortable playing running back.

651
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: So like we talk a lot, at least I do,

652
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: because I talk a lot about the forty nine ers

653
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: on my other podcasts, Like Debo compared to the other

654
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: two wide receivers in his draft class, like DK and

655
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: AJ are better quote unquote wide receivers, but neither guy

656
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: can do what he does behind the line of scrimmage.

657
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: I can't line DK Metcalf up at running back. Like

658
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: if Deebo Samuel next year just played running back, he

659
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: could have a thousand yards dressing and he could catch

660
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: sixty seventy balls, wheel routes, screens, no problem. So ultimately

661
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: my point is his value is high because I can

662
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 1: get him the ball doing a lot of stuff, And

663
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: I think that's the key with drafting a running back

664
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Speaker 1: or paying a running back. What can he do? Derrick

665
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: Henry is an outlier. I can just have him on

666
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: my team and he can run for fifteen hundred yards.

667
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: Most guys are not that and he can't. The passing

668
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: game is not a huge part of his repertoire, right,

669
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Speaker 1: so be John Robinson. He's the total package, I think.

670
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't really studied him, though I talked

671
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: to a buddy that thinks he's like one of the

672
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: best players in the draft, so he's very well thought of.

673
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: So I assume he's great in the passing game as

674
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: well as being an elite running back. If you can

675
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: catch and run between the tackles and outside the tackles

676
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: and block, you can play every snap, right, I mean,

677
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: that's part of it. Do I need to take you

678
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: off the field for passing downs? Because if I don't,

679
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: then you bring a lot of value. That's the key,

680
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: Like the value in football has really changed. When I

681
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: was in the NFL in ten, eleven, twelve thirteen, it

682
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: was like two down mics. Well, what does that mean?

683
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: You can stay on the field against the run. Well,

684
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: what's so you can play on first down because we're

685
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: gonna run the ball? Well? Fuck, some teams pass the

686
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: ball eighty percent of the time on first down. So

687
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: if you bring no value in the passing game as

688
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: a linebacker, are you even that valuable? It's why these

689
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: run stuffing linebackers are a thing of the pass right.

690
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: Like we used to call designated pass rushers dprs. Well,

691
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: those guys have a lot more value if I can't

692
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: stop the run. But I'm just a great pass rusher

693
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: in a pass heavy league, no different than running backs.

694
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: A running back still has value if he can catch.

695
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: So I think the value of the sport is just

696
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: kind of shifted, you know, over the last five six

697
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: years into much more pass heavy. So who has more

698
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 1: value Nickel Nurse, pass catching running backs, linebackers who can cover.

699
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: I was wondering. This is from Mike, wondering what your

700
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: take was on Baker Mayfield. With all the quarterback storylines,

701
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: Lamar Roger's car and the remaining quarterback vacancies, I have

702
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: not heard any mention of Baker. Obviously, Baker is not

703
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: going to go back to Carolina, But where do you

704
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: think he ends up, does he accept a backup role

705
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: to Stafford or another quarterback, or do you think he's

706
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: only interested in the starting job. Well, I think the

707
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: starting days are done, right. I think those days are

708
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: over now. If a team with a established starting quarterback, right,

709
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: just think of the top ten guys, Alan's, the Herbert's,

710
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: the Mahomes, Burrow, Stafford. If he's healthy, you didn't just

711
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: go around the league if they want you. If you're

712
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, you should go. It was smart for him.

713
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: I guess the Rams claimed him. But if the Rams

714
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Speaker 1: want him to stay and be Matt's Affords backup, I

715
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: think he would be crazy to leave because he's not

716
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback. He's just not. But he can have

717
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: another seven eight year career as a backup. Look at

718
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: Chase Daniel. Chase Daniel has like a fifteen year career,

719
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: barely ever plays, never does, and Baker Mayfield is dramatically

720
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: better than he is. So part of being once you

721
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Speaker 1: get to the crossroads in your career, I think as

722
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: a football player, especially as a quarterback, is kind of

723
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: knowing where you land and the faster you can figure

724
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: out the way the league views you, you can play longer.

725
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: It's when you want to force feed yourself as like

726
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: a starter, when you're not actually a starter, as when

727
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: you get run out of the league. But when you

728
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Speaker 1: just accept smartest thing chat Hanny ever did, like I'll

729
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: be Mahome's backup. Look at what happened from twenty eighteen

730
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Speaker 1: till this year, from what thirty three years old, the

731
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Speaker 1: thirty eight years old, multiple super Bowls, some great moments,

732
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Speaker 1: and he'll just be highly thought of in the Calo

733
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Speaker 1: City organization for the rest of his life because of

734
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: that experience. He surely could have gone somewhere and tried

735
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: to compete to be a starting quarterback. But he knew

736
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Speaker 1: where he stood and he made the right decision. And

737
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Speaker 1: that's half the battle, I think sometimes because the agents

738
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Speaker 1: always gonna want you to go chase more money, as

739
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: they should because they get points on that were you like,

740
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Speaker 1: are you better off taking a ten million dollar contract

741
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: or taking a four million dollar contract which may last

742
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: six years, and all of a sudden, you look, you

743
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 1: made twenty million dollars over five or six years span,

744
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: or that ten million dollars two years later you were

745
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 1: out of the league. A couple more here active duty

746
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: military that's been listening to your pod for the past

747
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: two years on my commute to work. Appreciate your service, Todd,

748
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: no question, although I may hit you up about nine

749
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Speaker 1: ers takes in the future, but just wanted to say

750
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Speaker 1: I love the content you put out on the NFL

751
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: and the PGA tour. I got a few years left

752
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: in the army, but you definitely put out some inspiring

753
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: words on career advice that makes me look forward to

754
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: the rod beautiful mystery of my future. Keep it up

755
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: all the best. I appreciate that, Todd. And like I said,

756
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: you are a backbone of the country. Baby. I appreciate

757
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: everything you guys do. Beautiful mystery. I wonder what that

758
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: darkness retreat was like. You know, and trust me, I'm

759
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,959
Speaker 1: someone that sleeps. I love a good cold, liking about

760
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: sixty six, and I like a pitch dark. I'm not

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Speaker 1: one of those persons people persons that sleeps with a

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00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: TV on. I don't have an extra light on. I

763
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: like it dark. So I am pro darkness when I

764
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Speaker 1: sleep and I'm a good seven eight hours sleeper, but

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours that would be Remember, like some of

766
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Speaker 1: the challenge shows, Joe Rogan had one. There's been a

767
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: lot of challenge shows over the years. I think if

768
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: you just took ten random people, let's just say, like

769
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Speaker 1: in their thirties, and tried to make especially now with

770
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: our addiction to phones and iPads and all that stuff,

771
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: and tried to be in darkness for twenty four hours,

772
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Speaker 1: even if I slid you some food or some smoothies,

773
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: you had a bed, do you get do you get

774
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: any music or anything? I think most of us would

775
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: crack man, And I like thinking right in terms of

776
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: sometimes when I wake up, if I go for just

777
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,479
Speaker 1: a five minute walk just to gather my thoughts before

778
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: I put my ear pods or turn on you know,

779
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: CNBC or whatever, NFL network or whatever. I just sometimes

780
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: you just gotta gather your thoughts. Sometimes I don't do that,

781
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: and sometimes I put my earphones in. I'll just be

782
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: walking into the office, will be like six thirty in

783
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: the morning. It's like it's the first thing I need

784
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: to do. Listen to a podcast or can I just

785
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: listen to my own thoughts. Like I said the other day,

786
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: I'm kind of jealous that Rogers. There are some elements

787
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: of his life that I would like to implement my

788
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: own I just think i'd lose my mind. And I

789
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: think most of you listening, none of us would make

790
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: it twenty four hours in the darkness. You have to

791
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Speaker 1: feed us, you know, unless you're an intermediate faster. I'd

792
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: need like at least protein smoothie or something. I don't know,

793
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: but that's a long time in the darkness. Man, Can

794
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: I ask questions like what's going on in the world?

795
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 1: Who's winning the you know, it's like, is Duke winning?

796
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: You know, What's what's happening with the Sun's game? I

797
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: can ask questions who won the Honda Classic? Or am

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00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,479
Speaker 1: I just literally in the dark, not only in the room,

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Speaker 1: but with society. I don't know. That's fascinating information that

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Speaker 1: maybe I will never look up because I don't really care.

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Speaker 1: But if I did, that's what I would ask. Okay,

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00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: question from Mobrian, Hey John, First off, I wanted to

803
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: say that discovering your podcast twenty may have single handily

804
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: gotten me through COVID in the ensuing years. Gott we

805
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: get some You guys are kind, You guys are in

806
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: good moods today. Sports takes aside, your business takes honestly

807
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: power me through the day from time to time and

808
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: keep me driving my small business as well. I'm a

809
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: diehard Tampa Bay Bucks fan. Yes we exist. My question

810
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: is are we totally fucked? Perhaps the worst head coach

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00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: in the game? Cap strapped, huge quarterback void have a

812
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: recipe for a disaster? I know our division division is pathetic,

813
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: but the but we may only win enough games to

814
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 1: take us out of the quarterback draft to pullosa next season.

815
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: Please put your GM hat on and tell me what

816
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: your move would be. You definitely have too much talent,

817
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: even if you have a random quarterback play like Kyle

818
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: Trask and Jimmy Garoppol. And I saw a headline the

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00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: day that whoever comes in as a free agent will

820
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Speaker 1: have to compete with Kyle Trast to be the starting quarterback. Now,

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Speaker 1: I actually think your division's probably a little better than

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00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: we think, right Tampa. You guys always got played hard

823
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: by the Saints, and that's when you had Tom Brady.

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00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: The Panthers actually are sneaky, I think a little better

825
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: than we think. And the Falcons just kind of suck,

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Speaker 1: but they actually have a good run game. I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to like close your eyes and envision Tampa

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Speaker 1: with like a top two or three pick, but no

829
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, it could unravel. I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think your quarterback position would have to be like

831
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Speaker 1: bottom two or three in the league. And if Kyle

832
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Speaker 1: Trask is your quarterback, potentially possible, potentially on the table.

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Speaker 1: Is I think Todd Monkin is that? Did I read

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Speaker 1: that correctly? Is your new offensive coordinator coming from Georgia?

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Speaker 1: So a couple of years ago he was a favorite

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Speaker 1: to be like this guy Ravens. Todd Monkin helped hire

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Speaker 1: or maybe he went to the Ravens. Do you guys

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Speaker 1: have a who's Tampa Bay's offensive coordinator? Tampa Bay? I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say, I don't really like Todd Monkin in Tampa.

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Speaker 1: I guess he was there before. Uh, Dave cannellis as

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Speaker 1: their new offensive coordinator. I'll be honest, don't know much

842
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: about this guy, Dave Connellis. But Gino Smith. Oh he

843
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: comes from Seattle. So I don't think Todd Bowles is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I actually don't think he's great. I like personally, so

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00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,479
Speaker 1: Canellis is forty one years old. Let's do a little

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00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: recon on this guy. So you're taking a quarterback coach.

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Speaker 1: This guy's basically been Russell Wilson's quarterback coach, and then

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Speaker 1: he was Geno's quarterback coach. This guy's been with Seattle

849
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: a long time. This guy came with Pete Carroll in

850
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, so he has been with Seattle

851
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: his entire NFL career as a wide receiver coach for

852
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 1: a long period than the quarterback coach. I would say,

853
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles and a first time offensive coordinator. Yeah, maybe

854
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 1: maybe you guys have a better opportunity to draft higher

855
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: than I thought, so I would be prepared for a

856
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: crappy year for sure, but I guess you already are.

857
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: Are the Jets better off with Jimmy G than Aaron Rodgers? No? Also,

858
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: I have family baseball film I directed called Rally Caps,

859
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: starring Judd Hirsch and Amy Smart, showing at Sedona Film

860
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: Festival on Friday. It's kind of like a modern day Sandlot.

861
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: If you think you mentioned on your pod that you're

862
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: in Phoenix, come check it out. Your ticket is on me.

863
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: I missed it, but I hope fuck, I hope it

864
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: went well. That's awesome. Congratulations Jimmy G. Here's the problem

865
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: with Jimmy G. He gets injured all the time, you know,

866
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: all the time. And this is a hard part. I

867
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: remember being in these free agent meetings. It'd be like,

868
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: he's got two concussions, this guy's got four. This guy's

869
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: broke his leg. So just because last year he broke

870
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: his leg, is he more inclined to break his leg again.

871
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: This guy's had a shoulder and he's at a knee. Well,

872
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: then he might play three years and never get hurt again.

873
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: Or the first day at practice he might shatter his foot.

874
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: You just never know. But when a guy literally gets

875
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: hurt every single year. He got hurt in New England,

876
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: he got hurt all the time with the forty nine Ers.

877
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: The chance that Jimmy G plays a season healthy, it

878
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: happened one time with the forty nine Ers twenty nineteen.

879
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: Other than that, hurting twenty hurting twenty one, hurt this year, hurt,

880
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 1: his first, his second year when he tore his ACL,

881
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: hurt his last year in New England when he played

882
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 1: because he didn't play before that. So to meet Jimmy,

883
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 1: what Jimmy is, He's truly a bridge quarterback. I would

884
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: pay Jimmy like seventeen million dollars one year deal. If

885
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: someone gives Jimmy Garoppolo thirty million dollars, I think that's insane.

886
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: I get money as different caps up. I think you

887
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: are flirting with disaster. So under no circumstances in any

888
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: world that we're playing football with a pigskin on a

889
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: field fifty three by one hundred and twenty. You know,

890
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: because the end zones right one hundred, you had to ten,

891
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: so you get one hundred and twenty. Do I want

892
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: Jimmy Arppolo over Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers could have his

893
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: eyes closed, and he could. He's only allowed to skip,

894
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: and I'd still take Aaron Rodgers over Jimmy Garoppolo. Let's listen.

895
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: Aaron might do some weird things depending on who you are,

896
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: but he's pretty good as a Ravens fan. I think

897
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: Lamar is gonna get a deal done with the team,

898
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: but if he stays, he needs more help. Andrews is great,

899
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: but we have too many injury concerns elsewhere to have

900
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: a solid, dependable offense in the grueling AFC. If you

901
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: are the Ravens GM and got Lamar to come back

902
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: to Baltimore, what moves in free agency to help the

903
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: quarterback out. One thing has been pretty true. Right when

904
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: Lamar's been healthy, your run game has been really good,

905
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: and he had a ton of success with the tight end,

906
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: which makes sense. The tight end in theory, is much

907
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: closer to him on a lot of routes than the

908
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: wide receivers. Right, he's running slants, you know, curls over

909
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: the middle, sitting in zones. Even when he runs the seam.

910
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: It's relatively easy to function if you're a solid quarterback

911
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: with a really good tight end. So I most good

912
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the history of the league have had good

913
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: tight ends. Now, you drafted a wide receiver really high

914
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: last year when you got injured, so that guy's coming back.

915
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: You need to find a way to get some power.

916
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: Excuse me, some power. And when I say power, like

917
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: to meet guys they're gonna work with Lamar Jackson. Are

918
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: not Hollywood Brown DeShawn Jackson. Do you know what I'd

919
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: want him to have, Mike Evans. I don't want him

920
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: to have big ass wide receivers, guys with big catching radiuses.

921
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: That's what's this tight ends? Would you have a lot

922
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: of success Bateman? Isn't he a pretty big guy. I'd

923
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: want bigger wide receivers with Lamar Jackson to me, the

924
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 1: running game if he's healthy, will be good. Mark Andrews

925
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: when he's on the field, stud I need bigger wide receivers.

926
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: This notion that he's gonna like play with DeShawn and

927
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: Hollywood and yeah, I just I never understood why Arizona

928
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: Cardinals they kept going after these little guys, like they

929
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: drafted Rondale Moore and then someone got hurt and they

930
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: added Marquis Brown. Is like, do you want to get

931
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: seven million little people with Kyler? Get more guys Hopkins size,

932
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: Get me bigger wide receivers. It's just easier for a quarterback,

933
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: you know, even de Sean Jackson in his prime, it is.

934
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: It's more challenging to operate with a guy like that

935
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: than I don't know, DeVante Adams. Just a bigger target.

936
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: If the strike if an umpire is giving you a

937
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 1: wider strike zone, it's going to be easier to strike

938
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: guys out than a smaller strike zone. It's so different

939
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: with the wide receiver, right, You're if you have smaller

940
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: arms like Wes Welker, who do you succeed with Tom

941
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: Brady and Peyton Manning. Would west Walker have dominated with

942
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 1: every quarterback? Probably not yet to be pretty accurate. Doesn't

943
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: have long arms catching Rady's isn't that big. It's just

944
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: much more difficult. Okay, last question, I was debating draft stock.

945
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 1: This is Andrew for some upcoming wide receivers Jackson Smith

946
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: and Jigba and Jordan Addison, and the question of playing

947
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: through injury verse sitting out and its impact came up.

948
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: My position is that teams probably value players who, though

949
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: not at one hundred percent, still put up the cleats,

950
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: still put on their cleats and play on game day.

951
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: Jordan Adison. The contrary position was that high end players

952
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: will sit out if they're not one hundred percent because

953
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: the tape will look worse to scouts and impact the

954
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: draft stock. Can you shed light on this. Would Jordan

955
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: Addison have a better draft profile if he sat out

956
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: the majority of twenty twenty two as his production suffered

957
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: from his ankle injury? Or do teams prefer to see

958
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: the grit and pain tolerance significant but not season ending? Well,

959
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: grit and pain tolerance and toughness will always matter. I

960
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: don't care what the GM or who the head coaches

961
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 1: or who the team is. Every team in the league

962
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 1: is going to value that. But there comes a point

963
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: when you're a quote unquote elite player, you get treated

964
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: a little bit differently, right Like Tom Brady, Peyton Manning

965
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers get to act a little bit differently

966
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: than Russell Wilson. They just do. You know, Kyler Murray

967
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,479
Speaker 1: gets crushed because he's not playing well. If Kyler Murray

968
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 1: had played like Mahomes and Joe Burrow, no one would

969
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: care about his surily little attitude. So when you were

970
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: an elite player like Jackson Smith and Jigba and a

971
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: year ago you were on a team with guys like

972
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson and Marvin Harrison, and everyone's like, he's the

973
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: best wide receiver on the team. Your standards are just

974
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: a little bit different the way you operate. So when

975
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,959
Speaker 1: you start playing and you get injured, is it worth

976
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: it to get more injured? Now? You could argue, like

977
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: his team as a lot on the line they were

978
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: competing for the National Championship. I don't know all the

979
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: details on him specifically, like did he just mail it

980
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: in or was it Like listen, guys, I do not

981
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: feel right, and it's just not worth it for me

982
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna go in the top twelve picks. He

983
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: would have been a top twelve pick the previous year.

984
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: My issue with guys when they skip games, or they

985
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: skip All Star games, or they skip the Combine, skipped

986
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, It's like, who are you? Right? Are

987
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: you Micah Parsons, are you Jamar Chase or are you

988
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: some random third round pick? And to me, Jackson Smith

989
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 1: in JIGBA, tough name to say, was so highly valued

990
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: that I kind of understand it. Right, Jordan Addison when

991
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: he transferred from PITT to USC, I remember watching a

992
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: YouTube highlight tape and I went, this guy's pretty good.

993
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: But I don't think he was viewed last year just

994
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: kind of like b essing with people in the league

995
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: and just for my own eyeballs. Probably more like he

996
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: picked twenty to thirty two, and I think that's still

997
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: where he's gonna go. Really good prospect, but I don't

998
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: think he's viewed as some elite guy where in JIGBA

999
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: and now we're gonna nit pick him. You know. The

1000
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 1: knock is he's not quite as fast, but he's pretty

1001
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: damn good, right, And if fully healthy, Like he's a

1002
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: top fifteen pick. So I get it. I hear what

1003
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: you're saying, and you are right, it matters. But like

1004
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 1: guys are sitting out now, or guys once they get injured,

1005
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: they don't come back. It's kind of understood. This is

1006
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: we're not talking about one hundred thousand dollars if you're

1007
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: taking tenth overall. I don't have in front of me

1008
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: the scale, but I'm gonna guess eighteen million dollars, right,

1009
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: That's that's a lot of money. Right, it's a lot

1010
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: of money, and when I know him, a lock to

1011
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: go that high. Not everyone is. There's a small group

1012
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: of players that are, and I think it's fair to

1013
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: say he was one of them. And once you're one

1014
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: of them, teams get it because ultimately there it's their business,

1015
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: like they understand it's about dollars and cents and you

1016
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 1: have a lot to risk. So yeah, most guys fall

1017
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: under that category. I'd knit pick you if you're a

1018
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: third round pick, Like, what are you doing when you're

1019
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith next year? Caleb Williams, Like they're a certain guy.

1020
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Jackson is Caleb's level, but you

1021
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean. There's fifteen guys that kind of

1022
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 1: fall into a special category. Appreciate everyone listening. Fire into

1023
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: those d ms at John Middlecoff. Have a great week,

1024
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: Talk to you soon. Peace The volume