1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison coming to you from the home office in Austin, 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Texas today. And no matter what I'm doing, you guys 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: know I love love and I never get tired of 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: talking love and relationships. You think I would be after 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: all these years, but I always find it fascinating. And 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: today's guest I actually met her Gosh probably a decade 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: ago when she was involved with a reality show. I 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: hate to say a bachelor knockoff show because that makes 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: it seem like it was tawdry and I was nothing bad. 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: But she was hosting another show and a part of 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 1: another show while the Batcheler was on, and we ended 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: up meeting at some event where we talked about our 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 1: two shows. Well. She is one of the most famous 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: matchmakers in the world. Amber Keller Hurt Andrews, who is 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: a part of Keller Her International, the number one matchmaking 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: company in the world. Old her mom started this, Jill 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: Gosh back in nineteen eighty six, and then Amber as 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: she grew up, got to be a part of this 20 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: as well, and now it's her full time gig and 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: is phenomenally successful. And after that many years of being 22 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: a top matchmaker, just has great insight how much has 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: changed in dating, celebrity dating, and all the things that 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: we read and all the headlines. What's true, what's fact, 25 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: what's fiction, So so many topics I wanted to cover 26 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: with Amber today. So very happy to have her on 27 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: the show. Welcome Amber to the most dramatic podcast ever, 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: and Amber joins me, Now, it's good to see you again. 29 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: It's been a while. 30 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: It's been a long time. I think it's been ten years, 31 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: maybe twelve. 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: I love it by the way you remembered almost exactly 33 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: where we were, and I think you're right. We ran 34 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: into each other and we were kind of discussing because 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: back then you were kind of in the world of 36 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: reality TV love, and of course I was knee deep 37 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: in the world of reality TV love, and we were 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: kind of exchanging war stories. 39 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and we shared a showrunner, so we were 40 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 2: talking about that. And I think the Bachelor was a 41 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: little nervous about Ready for Love, and I think Ready 42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: for Love was a little anxious about what was what 43 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: was going to happen, and you and I were like 44 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: kind of in the center of all that. So we 45 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: had that in common and we kind of bind it over. 46 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: You know. 47 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: It's funny. I always thought about that, you know, because yeah, 48 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: the Bachelor was always the most ripped off and copied franchise, 49 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: but rightfully, so if something's doing well, it's kind of 50 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: like when American Idol did well, it's like, great, let's 51 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: create a bunch of singing shows. My my thinking was 52 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: always this. You know, obviously the you know, imitations to 53 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: see in cerrus form of flattery, but I also believe 54 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: that there's room for great shows. If the Bachelor is 55 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: doing great and you're doing your job, no matter what 56 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: it is. By the way, it's kind of like your 57 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: job now, matchmaking. There's room for other matchmakers, but that's 58 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: not going to hurt you because you're good at what 59 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: you do. And I always felt the same way about 60 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: The Bachelor. It's like Ready for Love and all these 61 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: other shows weren't going to make a dent on The 62 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: Bachelor because we were good at it. And eventually, though, 63 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: I look now at that marketplace, it's wide open. It's 64 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: right for the taking because the Bachelor has fallen by 65 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: the wayside. So now you see love is blind, you 66 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: see f boy Island, you see love you know all 67 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: these other shows. 68 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 2: I'm married at first site. 69 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're finding their market share, they really are. 70 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 2: It's kind of like restaurant row. You have a restaurant 71 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: and then another one comes in and you're like, ooh, 72 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: it's competition. But if you get three or four or five, 73 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: now everybody wants to go to a restaurant row, and 74 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: you end up benefiting from all of it. And no, 75 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: I mean honestly, Chris, being that I was in the 76 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: entertainment business and I don't know. I think I shared 77 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: this story with you, but I don't know if you 78 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: would have even remembered. But when you got cast for 79 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: The Bachelor, they knew already they wanted to do a 80 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: franchise for the Bachelorette, and I was called in to 81 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: be the host of the Bachelorette because I was at 82 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: the time friends with the studio. I was an actress, 83 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: but I was also doing match making and they thought 84 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: that that would be really interesting. But what ended up 85 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: happening is your show was so successful, and it really 86 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: was surprising that a dating show would be so successful 87 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: that they immediately said, we're not going to touch this. 88 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: We're going to just move it over to the Bachelorette. 89 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 2: We're going to keep the same house, We're going to 90 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: keep everything the same because to your point, they just 91 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: wanted a cookie cut cookie cut, just go, go go. 92 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: And so I went from possibly hosting the Bachelorette to 93 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 2: not even a chance because they weren't going to touch it. 94 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: And they were right to do that, because you ended 95 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 2: up keeping that consistency going from one show to another, 96 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: and everybody trusted you and followed you, and so yeah, 97 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: you were all over the world. You literally had this 98 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: unexpected i'm sure, just career of interesting stuff. And then 99 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: I went on to start Kelling Her because that was 100 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: right at the time that my mom was doing it. 101 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 2: So for me, I don't think I would have ended 102 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: up running the world's top matchmaking firm because I would 103 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: have been dealing with girls getting drunk in hot tubs. 104 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: Man, we should have kind of should have switched places. 105 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: You could have saved me a lot of heartache and 106 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: a bad back traveling around the world, but you did. 107 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: So you started Kelling Her, your matchmaking company. Well that 108 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: would have been some over twenty years ago. 109 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: Well, it actually started thirty eight years ago. So my 110 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: mother started Keller Her in the eighties. Yeah, and I 111 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: was still in high school, but I ended up watching her, 112 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: and then when I went to Los Angeles and started acting, 113 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: and you know, like I did a lot of sitcoms 114 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: and TV shows, Baywatch and Married with Children and Melrose 115 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: Place and those those days, which is going to date me, 116 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: but it was very fun and I thought that that's 117 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: what I wanted to do. And it didn't matter what 118 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: side of the camera I was on. I really enjoyed 119 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,559 Speaker 2: just making a creative project with a group of people. 120 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: And so I would sometimes be an assistant to the 121 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: director or I was a script supervisor. But anyway, my 122 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: mother was growing Keller her and at one point it 123 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: felt like it was too small to just have a 124 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: San Francisco office, and so she asked me if I 125 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 2: would run the Los Angeles office for her. It was 126 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: never like be my partner. Let's let's go global with 127 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: a matchmaking because nobody's ever heard of it and we 128 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: can conquer the world. It was like, hey, could you 129 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: answer the phones for me down in LA because I'm 130 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 2: getting too many calls, And so she just thought she'll 131 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: separate the numbers. I'll answer the two, one three and 132 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: the three one oh and she'll answer the four, one, five, 133 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: you know. 134 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 135 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: But as soon as soon as I started answering the phones, 136 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: I thought, well, this is so interesting. I want to 137 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: meet this person. And then I would meet them, and 138 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: I thought, well, she doesn't need to match them. I 139 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: think I could figure this out. And so I knew 140 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: so many people in the business. I was matching all 141 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 2: the producers and actors and everybody that I knew with 142 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 2: the clients, and that's kind of how we ended up, 143 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: like Matchmaker to the Stars. I was already in the industry, 144 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: and so whether it was the head of Paramount or 145 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 2: the head of CBS or whatever it was, these people 146 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 2: were all single and they all needed, you know, love, 147 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: and they weren't finding it because there were no dating services, 148 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 2: there were no apps, and there certainly weren't We didn't 149 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: even have computers. 150 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: At the time to say, I mean, your mom Jill 151 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: started this back in nineteen eighty six, and I'm not 152 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: even going to go back to nineteen eighty six because 153 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: that's just too far. Even when you really got in 154 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: earnest a part of this, think how much it's changed. 155 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: And in all people even ask me, you know, how 156 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: has data changed since the batchler started, Well, we started 157 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: in two thousand and two thousand and one, I mean 158 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: that twenty four years, the world, technologically speaking, has changed exponentially. 159 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: So how I mean you try to quantify that? How 160 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: much has it changed just since you started the matchmaking business. 161 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: I've seen so many trends. And we have a new 162 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: gal that started going from an internship into what we 163 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: call a network developer, which is a step before you 164 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: become a matchmaker. And we were talking about these trends 165 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: just yesterday, and it's really interesting because you can see 166 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: how the world changes a little bit through talking to people. 167 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: So the example that we were using is, you know, 168 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: we did get computers eventually. In nineteen ninety seven, I 169 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: had a computer on my desk. I didn't know what 170 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: to do with it, but I had one. And all 171 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: of a sudden, this one client said she no longer 172 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: wants to talk on the phone. She only wants to email. 173 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: And I said, well, what's an email? And I couldn't 174 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: figure out what an email was? And then when I 175 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: found out it was something that she writes, I said, well, 176 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: that's the most impersonal thing I could ever imagine. Why 177 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: would I want to read something on a screen when 178 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: I'm we talk on the phone. So, you know, we 179 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: got really busy as a society. We no longer could 180 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: wait for that long facts, right, it was like instant 181 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 2: and you know, same thing with like our health. I 182 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: would interview people and they would say, well, I work 183 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: out once a week, and it was like, ooh, wow. 184 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: Okay, you work out. 185 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: That's cool. You know, like where are the gyms? We 186 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: didn't really have any. And then, you know, I remember 187 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: a couple of years later, some you know, people would 188 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: start saying, well I work out twice a week, and 189 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: it's like, oh my god, that's amazing. And then it 190 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 2: was three times a week, you know, and now it's like, yeah, 191 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: if I don't work out every single day, I'm not 192 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: going to be able to get through my day. So 193 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: you see these trends that happen and the world is 194 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: moving a lot faster and people don't have time to 195 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: really spend on themselves unfortunately. So the difference between a 196 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: dating app where it's like swipe, swipe, swipe, go waste 197 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: your time and start all over every single time you 198 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: meet someone, you start from the beginning, Start from the beginning. 199 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 2: Matchmaking still is traditional. It still is old fashioned in 200 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: the way that we kind of unplug you a little 201 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 2: bit and we say, you're actually going to have a nice, 202 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: you know, introduction with somebody over lunch or dinner, preferably dinner, 203 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: and you're going to have a conversation. And the good 204 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: thing about it is that they've already pre approved this person. 205 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: We've already met this person, We've vetted them. This is 206 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 2: not going to be some catfish or some girl, for example, 207 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: that doesn't look anything like her photos, or some man 208 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: that lied about his marital status. The things that people 209 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: have to go through on their own is really kind 210 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: of crushing. And people have become they have a fatigue 211 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: and a withdraw from the dating apps, and we're seeing 212 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: that right now and it's actually kind of depressing. 213 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: Well, it definitely is. And I just had a guest 214 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: on yesterday. We weren't even talking about dating, but we 215 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: ended up there, as all my interviews tend to do. 216 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: So I love love, and I love love, and I'm 217 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: still still very much entrenched in this world. But so 218 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: let's say you are a client. Let's say I'm a client, 219 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: what is the process because everybody is Fatigue is such 220 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: a great word to use. I was going to say exhausted, 221 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: but fatigue's even better. We are so fatigued by just 222 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: I mean, for lack of a better word, the bullsh 223 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: that you're having to deal with in the dating apps. 224 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: From what I understand, I'm not on them, but it's 225 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: like drinking from a fire heightrant. It's just too much. 226 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: You're inundated with it. And like you said, it's like 227 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: a menu people are just swiping through. So let's say 228 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm tired of it. I'm going to step up my game. 229 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to call Keller her. I'm a client. What 230 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: is the process? Walk me through it. 231 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: Your entire life changes instantly. 232 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: Bluebirds on my shoulder. 233 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, all of a sudden, it's color, the world's color. 234 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: It's a very good process for anybody and everybody to 235 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: go through because when we write about ourselves on a form, 236 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: let's say that we're going to put on Tinder or 237 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: Match or whatever it is, we put who we want 238 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: people to perceive us as. We never really put who 239 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 2: we truly are. Yeah, so when you don't really relate 240 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: with who you truly are, it's very hard to attract 241 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: the right partner because you're going to keep attracting people 242 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: that are going to show you through afflection what you're missing. 243 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: They're going to show you through reflection what your dysfunctions are, 244 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: and you keep blaming that person, but meanwhile, you haven't 245 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: been honest with yourself. So in the beginning, when you 246 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: join Kellor Her, we have a consultation on the phone, 247 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: which is really enlightening for a lot of people because 248 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: they feel safe and they feel like there's actually a 249 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 2: chance to talk to somebody who can see them for 250 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: who they are, who can appre shape them for who 251 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 2: they are. Everybody deserves. So my mom always says, there's 252 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: a lid for every pot. So you know, if you're 253 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: honest with yourself and you are not a bullshitter, then 254 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: you will find your match. And what's nice about Kellihers 255 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: you start with that process. Then we get, you know, photographs. 256 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: Some people want to have professional photos taken. That's fine. 257 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: We don't show photos to other matches. It's not like 258 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: we're sending Chris Harrison's photo out to everybody. A lot 259 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: of people that are high celebrities that we don't even 260 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: say their last name. You know, we would say Chris 261 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 2: is great. He comes from the entertainment business. You know, 262 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: he loves love, he's a family man, and he's he's 263 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: got a great podcast. We would describe who you are, 264 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: the things that you like to do, and the outdoors 265 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: and all this. We wouldn't put who Hollywood or who 266 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: People Magazine perceives you as, right, because that's yeah, that's 267 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: not really who you are, right. So okay, so it 268 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: starts with that, and then what ends up happening is, well, 269 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 2: first of all, give you kind of a little bit 270 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: of a higher level. We get about twenty thousand unique 271 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: visits month to our website. Okay, there's no way we 272 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: can take twenty thousand people, right, So we have software 273 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: that narrows it down to about a thousand that might 274 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: actually be good fits. But we still can't talk to 275 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: a thousand people, So we talk to about one hundred, 276 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: and we base that really on cities that make sense 277 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: for us age, that makes SEMs for us marital status 278 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: of course, being single enough money to be able to 279 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: afford matchmaking. But you can join for free. I'll just 280 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: throw that out there in case we forget to get back 281 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: to that. You can be in our files for free. 282 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 2: But there's a lot of categories that boom boom boom 283 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 2: always in at twenty thousand dollars, and then there's like 284 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 2: one hundred people that you actually want to talk to, 285 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: and out of that hundred, we take about twenty five. 286 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 2: And so when we're having those conversations, it's really about 287 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: are you ready? It's really about do you know who 288 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 2: you are? It's really about are you in love with 289 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 2: who you are? Are you okay and happy with who 290 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 2: you are? Because that's the person that we want to match. 291 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: And if you're not, then maybe we do a little 292 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: bit of coaching. If we're not, then maybe we show 293 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: you the reasons why you keep choosing the wrong person. 294 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: I had a guy say I'm joining for you to 295 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: protect me from myself. I said, what does that mean? 296 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: He said, I walk into a room every single time, 297 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: there'd be one hundred beautiful girls. I'll choose the wrong 298 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: one every single time. 299 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: Well, it's funny, you know this. We have a lot 300 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: of parallels in our life because one of the things 301 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: that I found often on The Bachelor was that we 302 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: have an idea when we go into a room, like 303 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: you just said, of what we want. I always date blonde, 304 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm always with brunettes or whatever. I like athletic or 305 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: I like this. It's really funny because oftentimes they didn't 306 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: know what they really wanted and they didn't realize, you 307 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: know what, you're just always dating your mom or you're 308 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: always you know, it's like you have these dysfunctions that 309 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: you're always falling into these same traps. And so that's 310 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: what that's what we found compelling on The Bachelor is 311 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: because oftentimes you don't know what's best for you, which 312 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: is why, Yeah, you've ended up in this situation, and 313 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: so you cut. You do have to cut through the 314 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: bs to figure out what is this person really looking 315 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: for and you really have to kind of have to 316 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: slap them upside the head and put it in front 317 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: of them to. 318 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: See that exactly exactly. So we call it a journey. 319 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: It is an adventure, but it's a journey. So it's 320 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: not like, oh, I'm wealthy, I'm going to pay you 321 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: in I deserve, I deserve to have a match. It's like, 322 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to work with you. We're going to do 323 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: this together. We're going to dive into all the things 324 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: that worked about past relationships, things that you were missing 325 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: in those relationships. Any any sort of not we all 326 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: have dysfunctions, but anything that might trip you up. And 327 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: then you're really good at being more discerning and you're 328 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: really good at not wasting your time because we are 329 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: very good at what we do and we're able to 330 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: kind of get rid of the the you know, the 331 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: riff raff, and so our clients learn how to do 332 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: that as well, and so they end up happier about themselves, 333 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: more confident about themselves. And then they start actually meeting 334 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: people on their own while they're with us, and they're like, 335 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: this never happens. And it's because they have this like 336 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: new excitement and they're inspired that actually love is real 337 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: and it can happen to them. And I think that 338 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: that's why it's a little bit of an adventure as 339 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: well as a journey. But just to finish what we 340 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: do is then then we match you based on you know, 341 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: who you are and where you live and all that. 342 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: We've got match makers all over the United States and 343 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: almost all the major cities, and then of course we're 344 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: overseas and like London and places like that, but we 345 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: work with people anywhere from one to two years. It 346 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: shouldn't take longer than that. Sometimes people don't really want 347 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: to rush. Not everybody wants to get married. But we 348 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: match you and then we talk to you. Why'd you think, Chris? 349 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 2: What'd you like? What didn't you like? What were their expectations? 350 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: What you know? And we have a real conversation. And 351 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: instead of a psychiatrist that gets to hear their client 352 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: complain about every single guy that never calls her back 353 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: and she's the greatest match and she doesn't understand why 354 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: none of the guys can figure it out, and she 355 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: only hears that girl's story, we're the fly on the wall. 356 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: We get to hear what he thought about her host sides, 357 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: both sides, and then we go, well, actually, did you 358 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: know you were extremely rude to the staff, you know 359 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: what I mean, like we can rush And then they go, yeah, 360 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: you did ask him a single question, you had three 361 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: drinks before your first entree. And then they kind of go, 362 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: I did anyway, So you do learn about yourself and 363 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 2: it is exciting and we bring love to you. 364 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: Cutting through the riff raff is interesting because that is 365 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: something you know. I have friends, very successful friends, and 366 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: they talk about dating and I'm like, you're what you 367 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: want is a plaything, you're not really serious about a relationship. 368 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: And you get some of these high powered CEOs men 369 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: and women and they're just they want life their way 370 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: and they are used to earn money at it. And 371 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: that's who you're dealing with, is some of these very 372 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: powerful people. How do you cut these people to the 373 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: quick and say no, no, this isn't how we're going 374 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: to go about this. 375 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: That's a really good point, Chris, because people that are 376 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 2: extremely successful in their careers expect to be the same 377 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: amount of success. We actually did a twenty twenty show 378 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: years ago, and you know, it's not often clients will 379 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 2: go on TV, but this gentleman was willing to do it. 380 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: And I forget the name of the woman that stars 381 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: on twenty twenty, but she sat him down in a chair. 382 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: And of course we can't tell a you know, a 383 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: journalist what to say, right, We're just like taking our 384 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 2: wrists the whole time. And she says, she says, why 385 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 2: would you pay? Why would you rich, good looking car house? 386 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 2: Why would you pay for a match? And I, my 387 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 2: mom and I are start just like saying because we 388 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 2: were like, oh my god, I didn't like that. Yeah, 389 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 2: And we were just like looking like this, and he says, 390 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: I grew up and I was told getting a PhD 391 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 2: was going to be tough. I was told starting a 392 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: career was going to be tough. I was told being 393 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: successful was going to be tough. Buying a house was 394 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: going to be tough, getting the car and he says, 395 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: that was easy. Nobody taught me about finding love. And 396 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: he said, and I don't want to just end up 397 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 2: with anybody. I worked so hard my whole life. I 398 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 2: want to share it with the right person. And she 399 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: just went, oh, like that makes a lot of sense. 400 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 2: I just smiled and we're like, oh my god, because 401 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 2: I thought he was going to go I don't know, 402 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: you know, like I just they seemed nice and you know, 403 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 2: and uh, but that's how they think about it. They 404 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 2: they go, you know, I'm successful in everything, but something, 405 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: something's not clicking here. And so we remind them. We 406 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 2: don't have to slap them out of it, but we 407 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 2: remind them that love is not business, that love is 408 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: of the heart, that love is anything but a business deal. 409 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: I think when I think when you're in a marriage, 410 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: I think a lot of business techniques can come in 411 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: and really be helpful, especially with finances and who's in 412 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: charge of what and kids, and you know, it gets 413 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: all complicated. So having some sort of business savviness, but 414 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: when you're just going for love and your heart and 415 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: being vulnerable and being seen for who you truly are, 416 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: you have to not look at it as a business transaction. 417 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: And you can't speak like a business transaction. If a 418 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 2: gentleman calls a woman to make a date, she can't 419 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: schedule you in on Thursday at six right, right, And 420 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 2: she shouldn't go from work to and neither should he. 421 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: You should go home. You should take a shower, You 422 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: should listen to some music. You should put some clothes 423 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: on that are nice. You should think about how exciting 424 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: it's going to be to meet somebody, and you should 425 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 2: walk out that door having nothing to do with the 426 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: business of the day. 427 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: I wish life was that simple for most people. I 428 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: do have to ask you a couple like celebrity gossipy 429 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: relationship questions, your take, your initial take on Taylor Swift 430 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: and Travis What do you think? 431 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: Oh jeez, did you have to ask me? Yeah? 432 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: What do you think? 433 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 2: Okay, So I think that they're a really great couple. 434 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: I think that they are in life. I think that 435 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: it is real, but I think it didn't. I don't 436 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 2: like the connection to the pharmaceutical companies. I don't like 437 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 2: the connection to the you know, when Harris got off 438 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: the plane, they said it was gonna be a Taylor 439 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: Swift concert and everybody showed up and they're like, where's Taylor. 440 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: I don't like how they are being used and how 441 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: they're maybe even agreeing to be used politically and and 442 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 2: for things like vaccines and stuff. I think it's I 443 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 2: think it becomes icky. And then I start thinking, is 444 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: this a manufactured, you know, relationship with that could otherwise 445 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: just be super cute? But like, you know, are they 446 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: trying to you know, why do we need to have 447 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 2: swifties at football? Like just do you know what I mean? So, 448 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: I think that it is a way out of control. 449 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: I agree with the sincerity of it. I ran into him. 450 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,239 Speaker 1: We were at the same golf tournament and I ran 451 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: into Travis and Jason, the two brothers, and genuine guy, 452 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: and he's I think he's just loving life and having 453 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: a blast. And I think it takes, you know, speaking 454 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: of matchmaking, it takes someone that could handle that spotlight 455 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: and that Aura, because Taylor's the most famous woman in 456 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: the world right now. She's on the level of the Beatles. 457 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: It's insane. We've never seen anything like it in our generation, 458 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: and so who could handle that heat. It's either you're 459 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,239 Speaker 1: hidden away and no one's ever heard of you, and 460 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: that's a disaster because that's toxic, or it's someone who 461 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: can is so big and his shoulders are so broad 462 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: that he can handle the swifty Nation. 463 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's genuine, and I think it's 464 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: really cute, but I feel as though there's other pressing 465 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 2: things that are. 466 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: Tugging at them. Yeah, yeah, I know. 467 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: I don't think it's not his job to tell everybody 468 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: to go get vaccinated. It's like, you just won the 469 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 2: football game. Is this the new thing? I'm going to 470 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 2: Disneyland instead. It's like they'll get your shot. 471 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: Look, I'm like, what is he doing? 472 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:02,239 Speaker 2: I just I just because you there's so much polarization already, like, 473 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: let these two just be in love and stop using them. 474 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: So I get very defensive when I see somebody as 475 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: as as talented as her and has and as awesome 476 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 2: as he is, and I think that they're both really 477 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: nice people, and I think they both are really in love, 478 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: but I'm very scared with how they're being used. 479 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: This next couple. I won't ask if you're surprised, because 480 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: nobody's surprised that Ben and Jayla were divorced. That was 481 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: something that we all saw, that train coming down the track. 482 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: I guess my question would be what could you do 483 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: to help Ben? And I think Jaylo's gonna be fine. 484 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: I think Jaylo's fine. Ben is I don't know. I 485 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: find him this kind of sad, tragic story or I'm like, 486 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: how do we how do we help this young man? 487 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: I know he's not young. 488 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 2: I think it's the opposite. I think, okay, I think 489 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 2: Ben's going to be fine. I think he was like, 490 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 2: what the heck was I thinking? And Jen's like I 491 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: have a reputation and I have an ego, and I 492 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: have this and then that, and now it's now it's 493 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: it's crushing him. My concerts aren't going as well and 494 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: I had to cancel this. And now I think she's 495 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 2: probably like, oh my god, what am I going to do? 496 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: Because she has a certain image. Ben's like, whatever, I 497 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: married this woman because I was so in love with 498 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: her and so infatuated I didn't even realize how messed 499 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: up this was. Yeah, And now he's like so he's 500 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: just like I'm going to walk over here and just 501 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: take a deep breath. 502 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: And she's scrambling back to Duncan Donuts to yeah fact. 503 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: And I think whatever he does and wherever he goes, 504 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 2: he will feel better than where he came from. 505 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: I totally agree with that. 506 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 2: And I don't think he gives a rat's ass what 507 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: he looks like or is thought of. But I think 508 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 2: she's scrambling and I feel for her because she wanted 509 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 2: that more than anything in the world. 510 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure, like me, you are very good at reading 511 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: body language. Now, it's just it's a trait that you 512 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: get after so many years of watching people. And his 513 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: body language was just if you could stick a caption over, 514 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: just be miserable. Just he looked miserable. It's like blink 515 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: twice if you need out, And it was like, just 516 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: let this say, man go. 517 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: If he's a Dunkin Donuts with a cup of coffee, 518 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, I'm actually good. 519 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, a cigarette, a cup of coffee, and a Dunkin Donut. 520 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: He feels like, oh thank god, I'm free. Yeah, Yeah, 521 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people listening right now are single, and 522 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: many listening I just went through a breakup or divorce 523 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: and they're back on the scene and it is daunting. 524 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: So give me some steps for people that are just 525 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: getting back on the scene. Like I remember when I 526 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: first got divorced, I'd been married for twenty years, and 527 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm hosting the most famous love show on 528 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: television and I don't really even know how to do this. 529 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: It's like I hadn't done it in twenty years. I 530 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: hadn't done it since the nineties. So where do people start? 531 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: Because you know, the apps are daunting, The whole thing 532 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: is daunting. 533 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, nobody knows how to do it, 534 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 2: and if they did know how to do it, then 535 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 2: they would only go out and do it once, right, right. 536 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: The ones that are good at doing it are actually 537 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: the worst because they keep they keep going out and 538 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: doing something wrong. So I think my advice is a 539 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: little bit different than what most people would think. And 540 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 2: I think it's really important for people to understand that 541 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 2: their energy and their mindset and their I don't want 542 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: to get to fufu like your aura and all this, 543 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: but you know, people have a certain energy about them 544 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: when they walk in the room, and it really is 545 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 2: important that that's why you need to be happy with yourself. 546 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 2: You shouldn't go date to go find somebody that's going 547 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 2: to make you happy, right because that person isn't going 548 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 2: to be the right match for you, right. You need 549 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: to be happy first. So what my advice would be 550 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: is really do a self dive if you can't afford 551 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 2: a match making firm. Kelliher International is not the only 552 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 2: matchmaking firm. To your point, we're the best, We've been 553 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 2: around the longest. We're expensive, and we work with really 554 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 2: high end, very successful entrepreneurs that travel the world and 555 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 2: kind of have it all and it's been a very 556 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 2: interesting career and I love it. And you can join 557 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: for free because lots of our clients want to meet 558 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 2: somebody that might not be in their income bracket, and 559 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 2: so you know, we're able to go outside of the group. 560 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: We're a search for ultimately. But I think that for anybody, 561 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: whether you join matchmaking, especially when you join matchmaking because 562 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 2: now you've got money on the line, or whether you're 563 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 2: just going out there and trying a dating app or 564 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: just trying to meet people at a bar, you have 565 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: to do a self dive, you have to think about 566 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 2: what makes me happy. And you know what a vision 567 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 2: board is, right, So if you do a vision board, 568 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: a lot of people say he has to be handsome, 569 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: or she has to be the prettiest girl in the room, 570 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: or he has to have a you know, he has 571 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 2: to have a doctor's degree, or she needs to have 572 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: her own business. Yeah, six foot three, da da da dah. 573 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 2: So that's fine. You can put all of the things 574 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: that you want. But what that is is not an energy. 575 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: What that is is a label, okay, and that label 576 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 2: doesn't have any sort of connection to anything other than 577 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 2: for you to be like no, no, no, no, no, 578 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 2: go down the list. He's not this, he's not that, 579 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 2: she's not this, she's not that. And so there really 580 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: isn't anything inspiring. There isn't anything loving, There isn't anything 581 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: attracting it. But if you think about why do I 582 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 2: want him to be tall? Well, I want to feel protected. 583 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 2: Oh now there's an emotion. Okay, I want her to 584 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: be really beautiful. Why Well, like you said, my mother 585 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: was really beautiful. Oh so there's a familiarity. So you 586 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: want to find what is the emotion behind that. 587 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: People look at you and yeah, yeah. 588 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 2: So now you want to you want to feel confident, 589 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: So that means you probably are a little bit insecure, right, 590 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: So what so if you can get to the emotion 591 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 2: of what that really is, because when we say we 592 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: want to make a lot of money and we want 593 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: to have this, really all that matters is that we 594 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: want to be happy, right, And some people are happy 595 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 2: with a lot of money and some people are happy without. 596 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: But the thing is is that they're happy. So if 597 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 2: you can figure out what are all these silly little 598 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: things that I'm listing on all these dating apps, and 599 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: what does any of this mean? And then you can 600 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: figure out the emotion behind it, and you can get 601 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: in touch with that emotion and think about that when 602 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: you walk out the door, you'll start to attract people 603 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: that will give you that confidence, that will give you 604 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 2: that sense of familiarity, that will give you, you know, 605 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: the protection, because those are emotions that can actually attract. 606 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: There is a real thing called law of attraction, and 607 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: I've watched it with couples for twenty twenty five twenty 608 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: seven years. 609 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: It's real interesting to figure that out. With the moment 610 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: you see them. I mean, if they're looking down their 611 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: shoulder and you just tell if they're ten, you're like, okay. 612 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: Or if someone's open and bright and looking around and 613 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,239 Speaker 1: ready to take in the world, like you get that, 614 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: you can feel that for sure. 615 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So that's really and anybody can do it. 616 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 2: Anybody can do a self reflection. Anybody can look at 617 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 2: their list and then once you write that list down 618 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: and then you figure what that emotion is and you 619 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 2: put the list away, put it in the drawer, and 620 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: don't even think about it anymore, and really just know 621 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: that you're going to meet somebody, and be excited about 622 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: meeting somebody, and every night when you go to sleep, 623 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: think about how great it's going to be when they're 624 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 2: sharing the bed with you, because that's how you get there. 625 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: How is it different dealing with I mean, I hate 626 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: to say regular people in celebrities, but you have dealt 627 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: with a lot of celebrities. How to copy is one 628 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: of your famous ones that you've helped, and you've dealt 629 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: with many, many, many others. What's the difference in the 630 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: celebrity world versus just the CEO world. They're all and 631 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: I want to hear your take on it that I 632 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: have something to add to it. 633 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 2: I think, no, what were you going to say, yeah, 634 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: it's funny, is I mean? 635 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: I think people have this idea. I remember Charlie's thrown 636 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: years ago. She had mentioned something about The Bachelor and 637 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: someone said something she was a fan of the show 638 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: at the time, and she said, I can't find a date, 639 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, because no one asked me out. I think 640 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: people have this idea that these people are on a take, 641 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: they are above reproach. They are And the truth is 642 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: they they actually well, they don't want to be treated 643 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: like everybody else for a majority of their life, but 644 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: in a but in the emotional side, they do want 645 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: to be treated by like everybody else. They just want 646 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: to be They want someone to buy them a drink, 647 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: they want someone to open a door, they want someone 648 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: to buy them dinner, they want to go to a show. 649 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: They want the same things. But I think people feel 650 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: like there is this aura around them that like, oh, 651 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, Jennifer Aniston doesn't do that, Charlie's Starren walks 652 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: on water, she doesn't do those things. The truth is 653 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: they do and they're vulnerable and they're insecure, just like 654 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: anybody else. 655 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they put their pants on one leg at a time. 656 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they just cost more. 657 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: It's true. I was down at the Mirrormar here in Montecita, 658 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 2: where I live, and I picked up a pair of 659 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 2: pants in one of the stores and they were seven 660 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Okay, looking at that, right, But you're spot 661 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 2: on with with celebrities, and I think that, you know, 662 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: like Charlice might say that, and she might meet it 663 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: in the moment, but if a guy walked up to 664 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 2: buy her a drink, she also might not say okay. 665 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: So it's a very interesting dynamic where they want to 666 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: be the same, but they don't act the same. And 667 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 2: and you know it's interesting. I'm a philanthropic partners with 668 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: Sir Richard Branson, who's my favorite partner, and when the 669 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 2: Ready for Love did not continue, I went on to 670 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 2: work with Richard. So things always happen for a reason. 671 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: You know, one door closes, the next one opens. One 672 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 2: of the interesting things with Richard is that we bring 673 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: celebrities to the island, but we have to understand their 674 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: personalities just like matchmaking, because they're going to be in 675 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 2: a setting with a bunch of entrepreneurs for five days. 676 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 2: And we can't have them behave like a celebrity, right 677 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: because nobody cares because these guys are the biggest and 678 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: best and brightest in their businesses and they don't. They 679 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: kind of look down on a celebrity. Actually, it's kind 680 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: of like, you know, okay, so you are in a movie, like, 681 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 2: so what, so you're pretty right. 682 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: You probably dropped out of high school, you didn't get 683 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: a college education, and you're a good actor or actress. 684 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Nowadays, with the whole thing that's going on with 685 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: the women coming out and saying how they actually did 686 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: get into the movies, you're like, oh, okay, so this 687 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: is maybe fark really bad. So but I had a 688 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 2: huge celebrity tell me. And I've actually had two big 689 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 2: celebrities kind of say the same thing. One who's an 690 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 2: entertainer and probably top ten in the world. He said 691 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: that when he comes home to his home in it's 692 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 2: in the East Coast, and he closes the door, he 693 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: sits in his library, and his library is just I 694 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: don't know, probably thousands of square feet and it echoes. 695 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: And he said he can hear how alone he is 696 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: because as a singer songwriter, he's very attuned to his 697 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 2: ear and he said it's it's his favorite place to go, 698 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 2: but it's a very sad place because he goes from 699 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: these huge concerts with you know, hundreds of thousands of 700 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 2: fans screaming, and then he goes home and he goes 701 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 2: into the library to have a cup of coffee and 702 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: he can hear how alone he is. But he also 703 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 2: can't really date his fans, So it is, it is, 704 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 2: It is difficult. Another one which was a big sports 705 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 2: guy that was in parade. You know, you win the 706 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 2: trophy and the whole thing, and then and then everyone's like, 707 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 2: ah'm touching you, touching you, and all of a sudden 708 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 2: he closes the door and then they're like they're alone 709 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 2: and they're silent. So I think that they crave love more. 710 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 2: They're not allowed to really go out in public and 711 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: just randomly date because the press is on it like 712 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 2: is this the one? Who is this? So they have 713 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 2: to really protect themselves. When we match them, it's very 714 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 2: private and we get them to at least so called 715 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: the third date in terms of the first date being 716 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 2: informed enough to feel like it's a third date. So 717 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 2: we do really well with celebrities because they're not having 718 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 2: to test the waters as if they were going out. 719 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: And even when friends introduce friends, they might like this 720 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 2: person and they might like that person and think that 721 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 2: you guys are going to like each other, but that's 722 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 2: not how it works. You have to think side of 723 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 2: the brain of that individual and what their needs are. 724 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 2: And you can't just match two of your friends together. 725 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 2: And that's why matching friends works, but it also really 726 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: doesn't quite quite often. 727 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: And how do you prep because this is something that 728 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: that I went through and dealt with on a smaller scale, 729 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: just because I was on the Bachelor when I started dating, 730 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: when I was dating, how do you prep the women 731 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: or the man whoever is dating the celebrity to approach 732 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: that and deal with that? Like I truly I went 733 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 1: on a date one night and I tell the story 734 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: often because it was so funny, But I you know, 735 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: what's one of the first things you would do if 736 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: you went on a date, like, oh, eb, what do 737 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: you do for a living? What do you know? What 738 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: are your hobbies, what are your passions? What do you do? 739 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: I mean, how are you buying this nice steak dinner 740 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 1: we're having? I would want to know that. And I 741 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: asking these questions, and this person I was on a 742 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 1: date with literally didn't ask me one question about myself 743 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: the entire time, and to the point of clearly she knew. 744 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: So it gets to the point where you know that 745 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: they know they're avoiding it like the plague. And it 746 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: was really funny because even they took our plates away, 747 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: and before dessert came that this table, this nice couple 748 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: sitting right next to us just leaned over and said, Hey, 749 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: didn't want to bother during dinner, but love your show. 750 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: We've always loved the batche Da da da da da. 751 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: And I said, hey, this, thank you so much, and 752 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: they would they we didn't want to interrupt us, not 753 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: interrupting at all, and they leave and I said, I'm 754 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,240 Speaker 1: so sorry, I'm sorry they interrupted, and she said oh, 755 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: and still didn't pick up, like, didn't take it off 756 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: at all, like, oh, what do you do? That's weird. 757 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: Why would they know you? 758 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 2: Did she know who you were? Though? Like in the end, 759 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 2: did she understand. 760 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: She had to have, because she never even to the 761 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: point where I just ran to valet and I couldn't 762 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: get in my car and get away fast enough. Clearly, 763 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: and there wasn't a second date because there was the 764 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: entire dinner, not one personal question. 765 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 2: It was so bizarre, and she'll continue to do that 766 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 2: over and over and over again, thinking all the guys suck. 767 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: But clearly she either knew who I was and what 768 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: I did prior to the day, and I'm guessing because 769 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: we were set up on this date, so she didn't 770 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: come into it blind and or she was just so 771 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: oblivious to the world and how to be social. But 772 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: my guess it was the prior And so I guess 773 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: My question is that is usually a thing. Say someone's 774 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: going out with I don't know Charlie's Darin. We'll just 775 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 1: keep picking on her. I don't know her, by the way, 776 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: But how would you prep somebody going on a date 777 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: in that situation? Okay, you know who you're going on 778 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: a date with. How do you not make it a 779 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: big deal but don't act like you don't know? 780 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 2: Well, this is where I think our brand is a 781 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 2: little bit different than as a relationship expert, I would 782 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 2: answer that differently than how we do it at Kellaher. 783 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 2: So remember when we said we talked about one hundred 784 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 2: people and we choose about two twenty five. If anybody 785 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 2: is going to feel socially awkward or not really be 786 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 2: able to hold their own at dinner. They're not going 787 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 2: to make it into our group because we don't have 788 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 2: time to coach in that way. We have time to 789 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 2: coach in how to be bigger, better, stronger, but like 790 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 2: in terms of just general like you know, get your 791 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 2: feet wet, get out there. It's you almost have to 792 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 2: date a lot with something like that, you know what 793 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 2: I mean, You have to go meet ten guys in 794 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 2: a row to be able to understand like the different 795 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,399 Speaker 2: idiosyncrasies about personalities, how they're going to ask you questions 796 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 2: a little differently, and you got to bounce it off. 797 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 2: It's almost like you got to go to a trade 798 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 2: schools figure out how to date. So so as a 799 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 2: relationship expert, I would dive in and I would work 800 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 2: with that person and I'd figure out, you know, what 801 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 2: was her impression of that date that night. I mean, 802 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 2: that's the really fun part about being a matchmaker or 803 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: anybody in relationships is we get to ask all the 804 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 2: questions and so with that information we would we would 805 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: turn around and give them. But with Kellor her, we 806 00:38:55,239 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 2: don't really prepare people for dates because they would be like, 807 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 2: why are you telling me how to date? They would 808 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, but but everybody messes up. 809 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 2: So let's say somebody you know makes a mistake, we 810 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 2: would be like, ah, I probably forgot that. You know, 811 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,439 Speaker 2: it's raining, and he left in his car first because 812 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 2: he gave the valet his ticket, and then she's standing 813 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 2: there and he probably didn't think about it. And now 814 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 2: he's gone and she's like whatever, I'm now standing in 815 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 2: the rain waiting for my car, and for her it 816 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 2: left a bad last impression, right. Well, if he and 817 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 2: for him, he could be like, I know that was 818 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 2: really dumb. I didn't know what to do. I got 819 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 2: in the car. So we can have that conversation. But 820 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 2: if a gentleman is rude and just dismissive at the 821 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 2: end of every single date, now we have a pattern. 822 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that our clients are perfect or 823 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 2: that they don't have faults, but we'll find them very quick. 824 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you hear that feedback from both exactly. 825 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think love in general is something that 826 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 2: everybody wants, everybody deserves, everybody needs. It starts when we're 827 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 2: really young, and you know, people find love at least 828 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 2: through her in their seventies and their eighties. There's really 829 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 2: no end to when you can have you know you 830 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 2: guys did the you know the even though unfortunately didn't 831 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 2: work out, but the Golden Bachelor, and all of a sudden, 832 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 2: it was like, oh my god, I can be in 833 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 2: my sixties and seventies and fine. Love. Of course you 834 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 2: can't happens all the time, maybe not in front of 835 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 2: the world, but so I just think that being in 836 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 2: the love business is so great. 837 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: Well, like you said, not everybody has to get married too, 838 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: and I love that, Like you now, as you get older, 839 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: people you know, can be very honest about what they're 840 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: looking for. Of like, I just want a companion. I 841 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: want to live out my days with somebody and share 842 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: my life. And you can talk about maybe at a 843 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: certain age you can't perform anymore. It's like physicalities off 844 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: the table. But I want to share my life and 845 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: be into me so much. Yeah, in other ways, and 846 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: that's a that's a beautiful thing. 847 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 2: I just was in Hawaii two days ago on September fourth, 848 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 2: which was a Labor Day. My husband and I celebrated 849 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 2: our twenty five year congregulating anniversary. 850 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: We're coming up on our first Oh good. 851 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 2: That's good. But we actually when I moved to Los 852 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 2: Angeles was kind of in the in the business, like 853 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 2: when you were. We moved in together in nineteen ninety. 854 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 2: So we're actually celebrating thirty four years together. 855 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 856 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 2: But we spent nine traveling and living together and going 857 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 2: around the world and before we got married. So nine 858 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 2: years in when we gave out wedding invites, everyone's like, wait, 859 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,439 Speaker 2: you're you're not married. That's you didn't at some point 860 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 2: you guys get married. It's like, nope, we haven't done yet. 861 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 2: So it was really fun to go back to Kawai 862 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 2: and celebrate and you're exactly right. There's you know, thirty 863 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 2: four years, thirty five years with somebody. There's we've gone 864 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 2: through so much. We've gone through we have so many 865 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 2: children and so much, you know, illnesses and surprises and gosh, 866 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 2: to have someone with you, especially through times like COVID 867 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 2: and through when uncertainty and stock markets and you know, 868 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 2: pandemics and having someone by your side is really important 869 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 2: and it's really it makes you feel, you know, like 870 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 2: you're going to be okay, and it's never too late. 871 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,919 Speaker 2: And there's never somebody that doesn't deserve to have love 872 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 2: and to be loved, and so it's really important that 873 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 2: everybody knows that they've got a chance and it will 874 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 2: happen to them if they can find that love inside themselves. 875 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: Very well said and a great note to end on. 876 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,879 Speaker 1: I always said, that's why, you know, when I wrote 877 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: my romance novel, That's why the Bachelor does well. There's 878 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: an insatiable appetite for love because companionship is the thing 879 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: we all want and we can all relate to, and 880 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: we don't have it perfected, but you do. And that's 881 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 1: why we come to you at keller Her International. Yes 882 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: we can do it, and so like and I love 883 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: that you said, Look, there are others out there. Keller 884 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: Her International is the best in the world and they're 885 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: all around the world, but y'all are expensive. But seek 886 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 1: others out if you're in a place that maybe you 887 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: can't get to kill her or whatever, you find it. 888 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: And that is a great avenue because I think we 889 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: see these dating apps and think that's the only way 890 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: to do it. There are there's so much more of 891 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: a personal emotional connection in touch with these dating services 892 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: that do it right, So do your homework and go 893 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: find one. I think that's a great avenue to go down. 894 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, and it's so exciting to see 895 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 2: you again. 896 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,320 Speaker 1: I know it's good to reconnect after all these years. 897 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 1: And happy anniversary, Happy twenty fifth anniversary. That's awesome. 898 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you very much. 899 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,439 Speaker 1: It can work, even in Hollywood. It can work. 900 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 2: It can work. It can work. It takes work, it does, 901 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 2: no question, but it's worth it and it's amazing and Amber. 902 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: If we do want to chase down keller Her, what's 903 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,760 Speaker 1: the best way, Well, Keller. 904 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 2: I wore my shirt so that you know, people know 905 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 2: how to spell it. It's k e l l e 906 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 2: h e R. But we're on Instagram, we're on Twitter 907 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 2: or x. But Kellerher hyphen International dot com is our website. 908 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,439 Speaker 2: So kellerherhyphen International dot com and you'll find us. And 909 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 2: you know, we do events. We have a social club. 910 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 2: We do events all over the world, really great events 911 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 2: like from the Super Bowl to driving the top cars 912 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 2: in the world, to going to the Grand Prix, to 913 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 2: going to Necker Island, which I do with Richard Branson. 914 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,280 Speaker 2: We're going in two weeks, two and a half weeks 915 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,439 Speaker 2: where we're going to bring a group of thirty five, 916 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 2: you know, business entrepreneurs and raise money for philanthropy. So 917 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 2: they can come on board, and they can come on 918 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 2: board for free, they can hire us, and maybe they 919 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 2: can even do something socially with us. 920 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be a client because but I'm 921 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 1: not single. But when you throw the big event here 922 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas, and I know you guys are here 923 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: because this is a hotbed for us, everybody, let me know. 924 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: I'll help co host for Remula one Yes October yep, 925 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: Formula one week. 926 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 2: I think we're going to be there, so I will. 927 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 2: I will. Like you know, the social club is for 928 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 2: married people because we happen to know a lot of 929 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 2: married people. It's kind of what we do. So and 930 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 2: then they don't want to lose the connections because these 931 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 2: people are extraordinary within the community and they're like, wait, 932 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 2: I met somebody, but I don't want to really leave 933 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 2: the community. And so when we do these events, whether 934 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 2: they're Safaris with Richard in Africa or going to Formula 935 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 2: one one, it doesn't matter if you're single or married. 936 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,399 Speaker 2: It's really about joining a community of people that have 937 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 2: inspiration and the desire to make the world a better place, 938 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 2: and there's usually something philanthropic involved in it, which is 939 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 2: what I love to do. 940 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 1: Well, Amber, thank you so much. It was great to 941 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: catch up with you again. Your insight, your expertise. It 942 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: is no wonder that you guys are as successful as 943 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: you are there at Keller Hurt International. And I can't 944 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: wait to be a part of the of this group someday. 945 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:33,439 Speaker 2: The social club we're gonna meet in Austin, Texas, Formula one. 946 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 1: I'll buy the barbecue, all. 947 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 2: Right, that's a deal. I can't wait. That's going to 948 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 2: be fun. I can meet your wife. Thank you so much, 949 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 2: and congratulations on the podcast. 950 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: Thanks Amber, thanks for listening. Follow us on Instagram at 951 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: the most dramatic pod ever, and make sure to write 952 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 1: us a review and leave us five stars. I'll talk 953 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:52,919 Speaker 1: to you next time.