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Speaker 1: with Matt Patricia, but I feel like he's already started

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Speaker 1: to grumble with reporters. He's had two or three incidents

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Speaker 1: where he's telling reporters to improve their their posture when

431
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Speaker 1: they're in the crowd pinning him with questions. And so

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Speaker 1: you have to have patients. But the problem with this

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Speaker 1: game as you look across the sideline, and we have

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Speaker 1: coaches today in Sean McVeigh and someone like Matt Neggi,

435
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Speaker 1: where in one season everything changes, and so it's just

436
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Speaker 1: like with Matt Patricia, I don't know, I come out

437
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Speaker 1: of this Lions experience wondering, like, what's what's been accomplished?

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Speaker 1: Counterpoint that feels really unfair to Patricia because when you

439
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Speaker 1: have to you look at the personnel and what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Like I I hold on my argument is that I'm

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Speaker 1: comparing them to the what happened with Bill Belichick. We're

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Speaker 1: a year in four games in people were saying it's

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Speaker 1: an utter failure. We don't know. It's just that there's

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Speaker 1: a lack of patients today and it's not a good

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Speaker 1: look for all right. I understand that, like I take

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Speaker 1: over a winning team to which is worth remembering, But

447
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Speaker 1: really I mean is there is there a winning team

448
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Speaker 1: that that's kind of more fugazy than than with the Lions. Well,

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Speaker 1: what Lions are a team that I don't care. They

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Speaker 1: can go nine and seven from here until uh twenty

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Speaker 1: years from now, and I smell and I just don't.

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Speaker 1: It's no reason to think that you're taking over a

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Speaker 1: team that's like on the cusp of becoming something special.

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Speaker 1: They're another team that just kind of exists and they

455
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Speaker 1: need a lot of work to be done with them.

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Speaker 1: There's something I'm comfortable about watching Matthew Stafford, who is

457
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Speaker 1: one of the most physically gifted quarterbacks in the league,

458
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Speaker 1: run such a dink and dunk boring offense. It's like,

459
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Speaker 1: are we use are you using his skill set the best?

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Speaker 1: And that makes me think, are they gonna, you know,

461
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Speaker 1: have Coutar around next year? But I'm more interested in

462
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Speaker 1: the Rams. There the relevant team in this game. And

463
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Speaker 1: well I was trying to attempt not just to talk

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Speaker 1: about the Rams shot. Yeah, I just wanted I do

465
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Speaker 1: not hate them. I'm curious to see what McVeigh does

466
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Speaker 1: coming out of a bye though, because I think great

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Speaker 1: coaches read Belichick, they self scout they come out of

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Speaker 1: the bike, maybe looking a little different, maybe making some adjustments.

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Speaker 1: Certainly the defense could use some adjustments. How are they

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Speaker 1: gonna handle Cooper cups lot? You know, lost long terms,

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Speaker 1: So we'll see if they come out with some new brings.

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Speaker 1: Leabe expected to play for the first huge. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Rams are twenty nine and points allowed since week four.

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Speaker 1: Keep to Leeb might help solve some of that. Let's

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Speaker 1: move on. The Cardinals are two and nine. They're on

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Speaker 1: a three game losing streak that got pasted by the Chargers. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They want up tend nothing last week against l A

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Speaker 1: and then gave up forty five on an answered point.

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Speaker 1: So that kind of tells you where they're at as

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Speaker 1: a franchise right now. They now travel to lambeau Field

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Speaker 1: the face the Packers, who have lost four or five,

482
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Speaker 1: and they have a chance now to get healthy. They

483
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Speaker 1: got the Cardinals this week, uh West and then uh

484
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Speaker 1: the Falcons at home next week. They finally started, finally start.

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Speaker 1: It's a great point because they're gonna, Oh, they're gonna

486
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Speaker 1: hang around. And that brings us to Aaron Rodgers this

487
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: year's mission statement. We're just gonna let it all hang out.

488
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Speaker 1: That's what the playing style is gonna be and Randall

489
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Speaker 1: Cops said he's getting ready to light everybody up this

490
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Speaker 1: week talking about Aaron Rodgers. Great, that's fine. Whatever, I'm

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Speaker 1: not buying in. There are only six teams in the

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Speaker 1: league with fewer wins than the Packers this year. I'm

493
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Speaker 1: not doing this where we're talking to every week. Are

494
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Speaker 1: the Packers gonna make the playoffs? I'm with Mark on this.

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Speaker 1: The Packers are over there over the hump. They jumped

496
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Speaker 1: the shark. They're done for the year. Sorry, that's fine.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna win this game. They're gonna win three in

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Speaker 1: a row. You're not allowed to come back and all

499
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Speaker 1: of a sudden be singing see poems about Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: and how fun they are. All Right, it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a big decision, That's all I'm saying. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: feel I'm living with it without too many I'm allowed

503
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Speaker 1: to enjoy Aaron Rodgers. But on this podcast, they're gonna

504
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Speaker 1: be like you have to you have to be like

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Speaker 1: Mark and just grumble throughout every great throw Aaron Rodgers. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: I will say this, though the schedule schedule suggests they're

507
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Speaker 1: gonna go. Here's what I think they're gonna do. They're

508
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Speaker 1: going to go four and one down the stretch and

509
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Speaker 1: be eight seven and one. But there's gonna be some

510
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Speaker 1: mathematical nonsense going on in week seventeen and they're gonna

511
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Speaker 1: shove them into prime time or do something with it

512
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Speaker 1: where we gotta deal with it until the But we

513
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Speaker 1: don't know if Mike Daniel's back. They are very banged up.

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Speaker 1: They had thirteen guys on their injury report. Randall cob

515
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Speaker 1: Maybe it's coming back, David back there, you know they

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Speaker 1: Here's what I want is what is the phrase this week?

517
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Speaker 1: Like let's let it all hang out? So that was Wednesdays,

518
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Speaker 1: but Sundays was also the the whole narrative of Rogers,

519
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Speaker 1: like ticking through the schedule one by one. I think

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Speaker 1: as a as a society, the COGNISCENTI needs to stop

521
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Speaker 1: like waiting to see what Rogers says after each one

522
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Speaker 1: of these games. They're like, what's his little thing this week?

523
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Speaker 1: I mean, what's this thing this year? He's just talking?

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Speaker 1: Let's stop picking that. That's always the top story on ESPN.

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Speaker 1: Whatever Rodgers is catchphrases after the latest loss. My other

526
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Speaker 1: thing is, let's say they do get tired, tired bit

527
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Speaker 1: football people. They get to eight wins by beating the Cardinals, Falcons, Jets,

528
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Speaker 1: and Lions. I still don't know what to make of

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Speaker 1: this team. They should beat those teams that they're mediocre

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Speaker 1: mediocre team, Like I said, only six teams have fewer

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Speaker 1: wins and the Packers right now they are basically a nonentity. God.

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Speaker 1: If they that schedule though, and the Bears they can

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Speaker 1: win out, they really can. One probably will get it done.

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Speaker 1: I think it would. Here's the thing that just based

535
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Speaker 1: on and I'll agree with what you were saying Western,

536
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Speaker 1: just based on what we've seen, they're much more likely

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Speaker 1: to lose to one of those teams and they are

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Speaker 1: to make I don't think yeah, I don't think magic

539
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Speaker 1: is happening this year. They have issues. They they have

540
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: an absence of playmakers which is inexcusable. Outside of Davante Adams.

541
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Speaker 1: They're waiting for these young guys to step up, which

542
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Speaker 1: isn't happening. Jimmy Graham is just not Jimmy Graham and

543
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Speaker 1: now he's heard as well Aaron Jones in a revelation.

544
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: But there's just something that's not clicking with that team.

545
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: Offensively or defensively, which defense that has didn't get a

546
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Speaker 1: lot of help in the waning years of the Ted

547
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Speaker 1: Thompson era. And now I think they're paying for it

548
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: through you know when you wait, when you see like

549
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: a movie, a preview comes out and like it gets

550
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: you all a flutter. I know West hasn't been into

551
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: a movie theater like thirty years, but Hollywood hates humanity,

552
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Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna let the point being like we'll

553
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Speaker 1: get excited occasionally for a previous up and then you

554
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: go watch the movie and when it's a letdown, like

555
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: you want to convince yourself even like this. I fall

556
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: into this trap with some of these franchises has been

557
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: around since some kids, Like you want to factured Joe,

558
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: You want exactly, you want it to be like better

559
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: than it actually was, and it takes you months to

560
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: realize this product was subpar. And that is how I

561
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: think a lot of people feel about the Packers. You

562
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 1: want them to be this thing that they the product

563
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: is subpar. Right now, the great thing is that they're

564
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Speaker 1: playing a lot of teams. Last week, the Cardinals were

565
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Speaker 1: playing on Fox and Chris Myers was kind of talking

566
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Speaker 1: about their up early in the game and he's like,

567
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Speaker 1: this is a team that's it's up against the ropes.

568
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: And I really enjoyed Darryl Johnston just jumped in right

569
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: and he's like, he's like, they're through the ropes. They

570
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: fell through and it's like they're playing all these teams

571
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Speaker 1: that fell through the ropes. They're they're out of the ring.

572
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Speaker 1: You need a final decision. Where are you going? You're

573
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: gonna hang in there? Are you gonna I don't like,

574
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: are you gonna hang in there? Or we said about

575
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: the Packers earlier meaningless. Okay, I can't have it both ways,

576
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: but I can't enjoy a quarter by saying you can

577
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: have it his way. You can you you can't have

578
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: it where you're gonna be burying them for a couple

579
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: of weeks as you've been doing now and then you'll

580
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: kind of poo poo their win this week and then

581
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: when they've been two more times. Add this is Aaron

582
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: Rodgers that makes everything so special in football, and I

583
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: love it, and he is the master tactician out there,

584
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: Like you can't come back and be that guy this year,

585
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: next year, you can do it. We've we've done this

586
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: show for too long. Look, all I'm saying is I

587
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: should still be allowed to watch him play. Even if

588
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: I didn't say that, you still have to get That's

589
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: what I'm taking. Grumble and curse. Uh if good things

590
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: happened to Aaron Rodgers or bad things happen, No, I'm

591
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: not gonna grumble and curse. But I do believe that

592
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: Mark has read this team well for the last month. Yes,

593
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. Mark. Let's talk about your

594
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: team now. Great job picking up all the Cleveland Browns,

595
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: the Bronies on a two game winning streak, and uh

596
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Speaker 1: take out the abacus? Uh? Greg, shouldn't we wait till

597
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: we get another? And they were on It's pretty early

598
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Speaker 1: in the mix? Is it? Four six and one? They're

599
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: still okay? If they win, they they have a six

600
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Speaker 1: percent chance of making the playofs according to some of these. Uh,

601
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Speaker 1: some of these they don't have an easy The problem

602
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: with them is their schedule. If they had one of

603
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: these cupcake schedules, then you can start. Really can they

604
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: do not? All right, let's get into it. The Browns, Uh,

605
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Speaker 1: four six and one. Nice winning Cincinnati last week, but

606
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: now they're on the road against one of the hottest

607
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: teams in the league, the Houston Texans, who are have

608
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Speaker 1: one of course h straight including that Monday Night victory

609
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Speaker 1: over the tight Tunes Um, Greg, I'll tee you up

610
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Speaker 1: though on this one. So the idea of whether you

611
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Speaker 1: buy into the Texans as despite the eight game winning streak,

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Speaker 1: are you buying into the Texans as an a f

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Speaker 1: C superpower right now? It's a good question. I guess no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I want to see I want to see

615
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Speaker 1: that perform that type of performance that they had against

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Speaker 1: Tennessee another time. Offensively is where I'm not convinced that

617
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Speaker 1: Lamar that basically you have one playmaker and DeAndre Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: one very promising young quarterback in Deshaun Watson, and not

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Speaker 1: enough else And so power is a strong word, right,

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Speaker 1: super super and I get it. Though this is a

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Speaker 1: unique year in the a f C. I think it's

622
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Speaker 1: deeper than the NFC right now. We've said for years

623
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Speaker 1: other Patriots, especially last year, this is a very thin conference.

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Speaker 1: Right now. You have five teams with three losses or less,

625
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Speaker 1: and the Texans are one of those. But to me,

626
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: they are solidly that fifth team until proven others. But Honestly,

627
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Speaker 1: if they won convincingly against the Browns, that would that

628
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: would show me something because I think this is gonna

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Speaker 1: be a very tough offense to stop right now with

630
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, and if their defense can do that, it

631
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: shows that their defense really is one of the better

632
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Speaker 1: defenses in the league. I feel like Cleveland has done

633
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Speaker 1: something of a miracle over the last two weeks to

634
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Speaker 1: not have a single sack on Baker Mayfield, and at

635
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Speaker 1: some point someone's gonna figure out how to counteract whatever

636
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Speaker 1: it is they're doing. He's good at sending pressure and

637
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: getting rid of the ball, he is, but he was

638
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Speaker 1: getting crushed. And I mean he's gotten better at it too,

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Speaker 1: but here there were there were some awful weeks where

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Speaker 1: he was running for his life and you still have

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Speaker 1: Greg Robinson and Chris Hubbard playing tackle. And now you're

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Speaker 1: dealing with something different than what the Bengals and Falcons

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Speaker 1: were throwing at, which is J. J. Watt, Jaevan Clowney

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Speaker 1: and the rest of that defense. And so this is

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Speaker 1: a huge test for Cleveland play on the road, and Dan,

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Speaker 1: like I, I totally buy into the Texans as a

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Speaker 1: nuisance in the a f C. That if things could

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Speaker 1: don't win eight games as a fluke. I mean you,

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Speaker 1: it's good coaching. I really like Bill O'Brien and what

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Speaker 1: he's done this. They could get a buy it we

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Speaker 1: think about on the Twitter show just because of the schedule.

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Speaker 1: I think they could get in there with three or

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Speaker 1: four losses and get a buy. I also think they're

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Speaker 1: one of these teams that it's almost better if they

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Speaker 1: don't get to buy, where they have to go win

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Speaker 1: a playoff game to get into the buy situated to

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Speaker 1: get into that one of those teams with the buy

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Speaker 1: and then play upset king that they are a team

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Speaker 1: that if things went right, and especially if Lamar Miller

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Speaker 1: continue to run the way he has last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: which I think is still a massive wild card, they

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Speaker 1: could be a big news. I think they're step below

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Speaker 1: the top teams in the league, but um, I do

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Speaker 1: think they have that ability when they click into that

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Speaker 1: next gear gear where they are terrifying for anybody, and

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Speaker 1: they should be because they have so many playmakers on

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Speaker 1: this team on both sides of the ball, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: the offense is the side. Their offense is what I'm

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Speaker 1: really looking to see some consistency out of my boy

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Speaker 1: Lamar Miller my fourteen time making the leap candidate. They're

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Speaker 1: good run buck team and one for West too, and

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Speaker 1: West had one in there. But I mean, he's shows flashes.

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Speaker 1: I know he's not a running back, that it's a

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Speaker 1: centerpiece of an offense, but when he's able to move

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Speaker 1: the ball in the lines blocking for him, uhd Marius

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Speaker 1: Thomas with the two touchdowns. I know he's not to

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Speaker 1: Marrius Thomas anymore, but he's been a good enough, good

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Speaker 1: enough number two so far since they got him. That

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins can do his thing. I think there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of potential for this team to get better. Do

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Speaker 1: you hear today's news, Dan what? There's a sandwich coming

682
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Speaker 1: my way? Whatever the terms. Baker Mayfield offensive, Rookie of

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Speaker 1: the month. Very nice sandwich just coming back to me

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Speaker 1: from you. Unless Sam Donald gets healthy and becomes the

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Speaker 1: player of the most stop it, it's not over yet.

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Speaker 1: You got a month I got December, mighty, how dare

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Speaker 1: you he's gonna get Rookie of the Month in December?

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Speaker 1: Crazier things. Mayfield did that in three games too. We

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Speaker 1: have three games in the number eight offense in the

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Speaker 1: league since Week twelve, according to Football Tigers, And I

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Speaker 1: think is it such an ideal situation with Bran I

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Speaker 1: think the last year, I mean for a week eight bad.

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Speaker 1: I think it's matchup for Deshaun Watson. Who that's your

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Speaker 1: I think case for the Texans getting better. He's only

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Speaker 1: started seventeen games in his career. He's coming off with

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Speaker 1: torn a c L and he seems to be getting

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Speaker 1: better and more comfortable every single week. And by the

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Speaker 1: end of the year, who knows how well he could

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Speaker 1: be playing. But you're going up against the Browns defense.

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Speaker 1: Who they played. They don't rotate. They got about eleven

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Speaker 1: guys who played fifty plus snaps last week, and they're

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Speaker 1: all pretty solid guys. There's no weakness on this Brown's

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Speaker 1: defense right now. I still want to do it. Do

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Speaker 1: it now. They're pretty heavy under I did it, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to create a civil war in the

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Speaker 1: podcasts because I love them, But what about a little

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Speaker 1: lock offs? Because civil war? This is why Mark though,

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Speaker 1: You're like, please, let's do a lock off where I'm

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Speaker 1: a touchdown underdog against an eight. They got team on

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Speaker 1: an eight game winning streak at home that's to you. Guys,

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Speaker 1: don't have to sit next spot Sundays. I will not

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Speaker 1: be taking you on in a lock against the Browns. No,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I I do find it funny that the

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Speaker 1: lock creates more tension, and it's I think it has

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Speaker 1: a lot more to do with the moods that people

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Speaker 1: are in, I think from a Dan and Mark front,

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Speaker 1: and even how our teams fair. Sometimes I've noticed that

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Speaker 1: I thought about making, you know, putting a little rain

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Speaker 1: here on the Brownies because I don't think the Texans

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Speaker 1: would be favored by as much. But I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to It's like a touchdown favorite. I'm not buying U. Plus,

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Speaker 1: you already used this segment yesterday. You know that. Also,

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Speaker 1: I mean you're you're trying to make up I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to make rules for your segment. What a mess. Hey.

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Speaker 1: We have now approached the halfway point of the two

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Speaker 1: thousand nineteen Pro Bowl. Vote who writes the stuff? Erica? Honestly,

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Speaker 1: who are your standout players this season? Which NFL stars

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Speaker 1: do you want to see it this year's Pro Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Make sure your favorite players get their spot on the

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Speaker 1: a f C and NFC rosters. Vote today at NFL

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Speaker 1: dot com slash Pro Bowl Vote, or by using the

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Speaker 1: hashtag hashtag Pro Bowl Vote and including the first and

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Speaker 1: last name of the player, the player's official Twitter handle,

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Speaker 1: or a hashtag including the players first and last name.

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Speaker 1: I do know who it. I do know who wrote

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Speaker 1: that copy by way. Wow. I like what you did, though, Dan,

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Speaker 1: You're you're honoring what is it Bartlett? No, it's not

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Speaker 1: part It says it's someone who works under Bartlett and

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Speaker 1: he has a nickname that includes the word spaghetti and

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Speaker 1: it it's Eddie Spaghetti. Are you you're certain of that?

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Speaker 1: We'll have to I like that you're you're honoring the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl by giving the same effort that like the

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman given the first quarter of the Pro Bowl. There.

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Speaker 1: Moving on the Colts six and five. They've won five straight.

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Speaker 1: West can't stand up, and now they travel to Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: the big chlorine tank to phase the most pointing team

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Speaker 1: in football. They've lost seven or seven in a row,

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Speaker 1: eight out of nine. Mark Sessler the Jacksonville jagu Rs. Oh,

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Speaker 1: the Colts look like they're set up to keep rolling

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Speaker 1: and keep the heat on the Texans. Sure, why not?

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00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: I do think they were fortunate to draw the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: last week, a team that has zero ability to close

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Speaker 1: because it is a game, or Randy Luck through two

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00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: in or exceptions and lost a fumble. But they're a

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Speaker 1: team that can overcome those mistakes. And the one thing

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Speaker 1: I love about this year's Cults is that what's happening

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Speaker 1: is you're getting like the best version of t Y

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Speaker 1: Hilton we've gotten in a while. And they take players

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Speaker 1: like an Eric Ebron and revived their careers in this offense,

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00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: Like this guy's career was essentially over. It's an argument

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00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: to trade these guys that are on team A where

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00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: nothing's working after you drafted him and give him a

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Speaker 1: new fresh start. I mean, because he was with Stafford

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Speaker 1: and again the lines are so hard to figure out.

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Speaker 1: You would have thought he was in a good place

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Speaker 1: into thought who drafted him in the first round once

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Speaker 1: upon a time, and it just never clicked. And he

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Speaker 1: goes in plays with and I think he's the most

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Speaker 1: productive stuff too. And I think when one thing the

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Speaker 1: Patriots do well is in other great coaches and staff

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00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: do they focus on what players do well. And I

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Speaker 1: think Frank Reich has figured out what Ebron does well,

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Speaker 1: and they're not trying to have him be a seventies

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Speaker 1: snap a game, do everything tight end. They're just letting

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Speaker 1: him do what he does in the red zone, jump exactly,

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Speaker 1: and don't ask him to do other stuff because I

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Speaker 1: mess U. They're doing a rough, Why Hilton? They're doing

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Speaker 1: that with all the running backs's been great, It's been

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Speaker 1: a rough. It's a mirror opposite of what the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: are offering their fans right now. It's a it's a

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Speaker 1: rough two thousand eighteen for the coutter. By the way,

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Speaker 1: couldn't get Abron fix. Now we're realizing that. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know he's been unmasked for letter. No letter for Nett

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Speaker 1: in this game was suspended. We did not mention in

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Speaker 1: our last show. I don't believe, but I think that's

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Speaker 1: a pretty big factor. He was running quite well, maybe

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Speaker 1: the best that I think he's ever running in his

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Speaker 1: brief time after coming back from the Hamps. And the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars lost another offensive lineman last week Andrew Norwell. They're

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Speaker 1: big signing is on I R now and their quarterback

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Speaker 1: Cody Kessler is O and eight in his career and

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Speaker 1: he's a game manager. You're asking him to do this

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Speaker 1: without leanard four net and then on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the ball, Jalen Ramsey not practicing yet this week.

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Speaker 1: Doug Morone said he has a high level of concern

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Speaker 1: over Ramsey's availability. You're getting a very banged up Jaguars. No,

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Speaker 1: you can't. I could not look in the mirror this

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Speaker 1: Jaguars team not to mention the he could. I think

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Speaker 1: I cannot because because of the Jaguar what it's worth.

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Speaker 1: I mean it, because of their locker room. I'm not

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Speaker 1: trusting the Colts as a a guaranteed win any week.

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Speaker 1: I thought that last week on the road feels the

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Speaker 1: same way. It's a division it's a division game. They

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Speaker 1: just played each other. At the moment, they just played

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Speaker 1: each other. It's very tight. They could lose this game,

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Speaker 1: and they're banged up themselves. They lost Jack Doyle, who's

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Speaker 1: a very good tight no healthy tight end. Marlon Mack

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Speaker 1: is in the concussion protocol. He practiced fully on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: but he still has the game clearance. Losing Jack Doyle

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Speaker 1: is significant. Everyone around the team said he was a

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Speaker 1: great run blocker, one of the like all the receivers

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Speaker 1: run block well. They have a running game. Indianapolis I

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Speaker 1: want to say I'm sorry to West and Uh the

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if I did it on the podcast,

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Speaker 1: was wrong about Nahim. You don't trust you don't trust

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Speaker 1: just like, I'm sorry I wronged this band. It's fun.

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Speaker 1: I have a quick statement for the subreddit. Can we

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Speaker 1: get the missive music? Um? If you want to be

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Speaker 1: recognized by this podcast in the picks challenge the lock

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Speaker 1: It Up Picks challenge subreddit around the NFL, do me

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Speaker 1: one favor. Go to your local home depot or any

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Speaker 1: bed bathroom beyond and purchase yourself a mirror. Why but

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Speaker 1: you can't put it because they pick last. From my understanding,

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Speaker 1: it's it's just just a mirror. Then you can get

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Speaker 1: a cheap one. You get one of those stand up

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Speaker 1: you know what are your bedroom door and you close it.

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Speaker 1: I was asking, why what are the games I wanted here?

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Speaker 1: They locked up the cults against the dolphins, and they

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Speaker 1: came in me and I love the subreddit, but like

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Speaker 1: they have said, you know, shove it, sess because I said,

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Speaker 1: whoever locks up the cults, I would assassinate them. You

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Speaker 1: simply cannot lock up the cults. You know, you buy

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Speaker 1: a mirror and you look at yourself. When you create

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Speaker 1: a game without rules, it's anarchy. Just make it seven points.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they have a better record than you. Can't

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Speaker 1: take it. And everyone. You couldn't have taken the cults

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Speaker 1: last week, by the way, that would have just to

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Speaker 1: buy a mirror and looking at one. That's all. That's

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Speaker 1: a simple don't get caught up over the rules. Just

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Speaker 1: just get a mirror. Yeah, I mean, what is this

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Speaker 1: the rule? You're you know, six year old soccer, no rules,

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Speaker 1: just kicking around. And I love the subreddit. You guys

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00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: are loyal and everything, but it's they're wonderful mirror throughout life. Greg,

851
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: Often you have to just sit down and take a

852
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: long look in the mirror and evaluate, and the subreddit

853
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: needs to The Buffalo Bills four and seven. They've won

854
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: two straight. Good job them, and what was shaping up

855
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: is a historic terrible season. Uh, maybe it won't be

856
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: great in terms of when it comes draft time. Maybe

857
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: winning these games is not the best thing that could

858
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 1: have happened. Uh to uh the team from Orchard Park.

859
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: But they're showing a little pluck at four and seven.

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00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: Now they head to Miami to face the Dolphins, and

861
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: and again, thank you, thank you to the Colts and

862
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck for doing God's work keeping the Dolphins from

863
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: moving to six and five and staying uh square in

864
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: the middle of the playoff picture. Instead, they're five and

865
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: six and really all but cooked Chris Westling. Uh so

866
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: this is kind of two a f C East also

867
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: rans unless Dolphins went out. Thank you for throwing this

868
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: game my way. Uh. These two teams. My favorite metric

869
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: for offense is drive success rate. These two teams are

870
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: twenty nine and thirty this year, and that's about how

871
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: they play. When you watch him on TV, they're they're

872
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: pretty unwatchable. Josh Allen is fun. Um. I wonder if

873
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: we'll ever learned to throw with touch. But one way

874
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: to evaluate running quarterbacks is to treat their runs as

875
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: passes to themselves and then put that in the stat line.

876
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: And if you do that, Josh Allen had an awesome

877
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: game list week, ninety yards rushing. He has a dynamic

878
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: athlete fund to watch except when he's just throwing the

879
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: ball like a hundred miles an hour into the dirt.

880
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: But had about three or four throws that were pretty awesome. Yeah, phenomenal.

881
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: And on a chance, it's like, how do you even

882
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: evaluate Ryan Tannehill when they won't let him pass on

883
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: third and ten and his offensive line and wide receiver

884
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: corps are ravaged by injuries. I don't even know. I

885
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: don't at this point, I don't know. I want him

886
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: to be a quarterback much longer. And there's all this

887
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill is going to finish the season with the

888
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: best completion percentage of his career. If I hear a

889
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: single no, it's the static he's throwing around about Tannehill,

890
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: because there are these like pro Tannehill guys that are

891
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: people that want to tell you how great that No,

892
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: tanne more than you realize, And it's like, no, it's

893
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: at straw then on the kissing cousin side, No, No, No,

894
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: there are and there are there because people not the

895
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: third intent. At the end of the the last game, the

896
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: drive before it was also a third intent and they

897
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: ran the ball. It's third in Tannehill, that's like what

898
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: what it is? It's like third, not we came. Kenny

899
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: Still has had some comments today. The most telling, I

900
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: think was he said, I can tell you I'm getting open.

901
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: I can't tell you why I'm not getting more targets.

902
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: He has a hundred and eight yards over his last

903
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: six games. DeVante Parker was out there last week, Stills

904
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: was out there. And they're not going to their wide receivers.

905
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what you know what the reason is.

906
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: Mike Kasiki is not turned into a good draft pick.

907
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: I know it's early, but you can tell sometimes and

908
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 1: it's not a great sign that Cameron Wake is still

909
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: their best defensive player. Like every year, I've made that

910
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: point around this time of year on the podcast, like

911
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: the alright, but on one of them, the people, I

912
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: mean they have I think that Kenyan Drake played a

913
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: nice game, you know before the wheel now, but they

914
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: might win this game and then they're six and six

915
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: and they're tied for you know whatever, if the pack

916
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: for five and six. We would be freaking out in

917
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: this studio. So you want to hear something funny. A

918
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, there was a on camera talent

919
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: um personality for NFL Network that had it close ties

920
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: to Kenny Stills and uh. In the newsroom, Greg made

921
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: a disparaging comment about Stills and it resulted in a

922
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: back and forth, a loud argument, going back and forth.

923
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: It was uncomfortable Greg and this individual that got to

924
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: the point where I'm not gonna say you needed to

925
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: be separated, but there were separate meetings to talk to

926
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: both of you about well, he was taken out of

927
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: the news room. You were You were in the right,

928
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: You were in the right, as I recall, and this

929
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: man got so hot about you making a negative comment

930
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: about his friend, his boy, Kenny Stills, that the whole

931
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: newsroom shut down. It went one of my favorite NFL medium.

932
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: It went on and on, and then actually it went

933
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: on and on, and he was taken out of the newsroom,

934
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: and then someone a shot a weak figure came back

935
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: in and like saw that there was like a few

936
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: embers still on the ground, like lit another match, and

937
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: then it restarted again. It was skilland a problem. At

938
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Speaker 1: one point, the guys said, I will challenge you to

939
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 1: an open debate. That would I guess if you put

940
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: on the internet and you know I'll do that. I

941
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't want to do that. No, I said,

942
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: I end just getting it more and more angry. I

943
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: was proud of my response, which was, I could you know,

944
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: I can see in retrospect wildly annoying. But I said,

945
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that's something people would be interested in.

946
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: He wanted he wanted to have an open debate about

947
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: Kenny Stills. By the way, Kenny Stills. He was in

948
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: the right on some level because Kenny Stills had a

949
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: great year. The next year, He's had a pretty nice career,

950
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: got a nice second contract there. I said, it was

951
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: skill brand. I don't even think this man is you

952
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: gotta take that out. You gotta take that out. We

953
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: gotta keep it all mysterious. Let's move on. Let's see.

954
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: I was never gonna say it, but this is exactly

955
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: what I wanted you to think. That it could come

956
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: out and then you would have to make edit because

957
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: we're being Yeah, I don't want to be a jerk.

958
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: On another another time, say no more I'm saying everything.

959
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: I was already a jerk. Last time, let's not double back.

960
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: And one last point, Josh Allen, he had to do

961
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: a couple of kneel downs and it cost him a

962
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: hundred yard rushing game. Rule change, make that a team

963
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: rushing negative. You'll agree with that. Individuals just don't count it.

964
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: I agree. I saw something that Brady leads the NFL,

965
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: and it was like it was a ridiculous amount of

966
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: kneel downs over two hundred Give him back his his

967
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: rushing yards games over. At that point, you don't have

968
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: to account for the stack. Gil was so angry. I

969
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: could not believe I kill Gil is so composed typically

970
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: that it was. It was a really hard mean It's

971
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: funny you say that, because Gil really was really angry

972
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: at me one other time, really ten years ago, I'm

973
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: sure before before I worked there. What's so, what's the

974
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: common thread the denominator here that seems to be occurring

975
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: over and over. It might be greg Or you know

976
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: reporters who now for that was uncalled for, But you

977
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: come at me, what do you expect? That's ridiculous? The

978
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears person didn't. That's a hall of famer man, Oh,

979
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 1: I love Gil. You know, Chicago Bears are eight and three. Uh,

980
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: they are the team of around the NFL, and they

981
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: deserve the credit because they are. They've won five in

982
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: a row and um, I was really impressed on eighty

983
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: five hours rest. They went into Detroit on Thanksgiving, took

984
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: care of business, a well earned mini by for our Bears,

985
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: and now they get to go to the Meadowlands. And

986
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: good timing too because of the Giants find a way

987
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: to hold on against the Eagles. Greg. Uh, they are

988
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: on a three game winning streak and maybe the New

989
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: York media is a little over excited, but in the

990
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: lock room, they would certainly feel they were still alive

991
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: in the NFC East. But you wonder if the air

992
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: goes out of the balloon after that loss. I don't

993
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: think they'll try less, but I do agree that it's

994
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: a beautiful schedule setting up for the Bears that the

995
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: two starts they're getting with Chase Daniel and Chase Daniel

996
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: is expected to start in this game. According to Mike Garafolo,

997
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: are against the Lions and the Giants. I mean that

998
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: that is perfect. That's like a football gods, like, hey,

999
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: you're having a good season. Let's let Chase Daniels start

1000
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: against two lackluster defenses in games that we're gonna have

1001
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: a chance to win on the road. Because even though

1002
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: his numbers were solid, they were misleading. He missed throws

1003
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: accuracy wise, and he really missed just seeing the field.

1004
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: I think he's a fine backup, uh and he gives

1005
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: him a chance to win this game. But if they

1006
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: do in this game, it's another reminder what a what

1007
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: a star Matt Naggi has been, what how key, what

1008
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: a great hire he has been, and winning games with

1009
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: Chase Daniel and you know Trabsky earlier in the season

1010
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: when he was struggling, like creating yards for those guys

1011
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 1: and creating open receivers, he's done. Nastin never talked about

1012
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: as a coach of the year. I think you should

1013
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: be in there. I agree with you, and like the

1014
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 1: window with Chase Daniel though, is perfect, assuming it ends

1015
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: this week, because after this you have the Rams and

1016
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 1: the Packers, which is going to that's a rough two

1017
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: games stretch for the Bears. I don't think this Giants

1018
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: is expected to be bad. I don't think that, but

1019
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: we've heard that for about this week too. No, he

1020
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: really is expected to be back this time. Let's go

1021
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: above Naggie. I did Executives of the Year candidates this

1022
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: this week, and Pace is number one. Ryan Pace, Chris

1023
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: ballad right there at the top. The Saints duo of

1024
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: Jeff Ireland and Mickey Loomis are in the running. You

1025
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: can put Andy Reid and Brett Beach in there. I

1026
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: don't know if Ireland people tried, they couldn't do it.

1027
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if you mentioned like I don't know

1028
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: if it was a Pace decision or a Naggy decision,

1029
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: but to keep Vic Fangio, if he kind of made

1030
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: the incoming coach do that, like that was so key.

1031
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 1: I like what Vick Vangio he was. What advice would

1032
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: he give his defensive players for stopping Odell Beckham Jr.

1033
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: And he said go to Mass Saturday night. Funny, Um,

1034
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: you have something, No, I just I one lasting. I

1035
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: do wonder sometimes the whole patch schirmer Head coaching experience.

1036
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: I I don't know how long this is gonna drive.

1037
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: I don't think Giants are as bad as a record.

1038
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: This is not a I'm not I'm a little worried

1039
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: about them with Chase Daniel as the starter on the road.

1040
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: I think the Giants are about the same as the

1041
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: rest of the NFC East teams. The Panthers or six

1042
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: and five, which wouldn't seem too bad, but then you

1043
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: remember three weeks ago they were six and two. Three

1044
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: nailed it, three game losing streak. Another disappointing loss, this

1045
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: one at home. You know, road losses you could sometimes understand,

1046
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 1: especially Pittsburgh, even though that was a blowout. The loss

1047
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: in Detroit was a tough one, but it was a

1048
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: one point game and the two point conversion attempt at

1049
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: the end, so it was a little bit tricky. Uh.

1050
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 1: The Seattle loss is just a killer because they should

1051
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 1: have won that football game, and you wonder if there's

1052
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: something wrong Mark Sessler. Luckily they get a stinker of

1053
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 1: a team in the Bucks, but they are coming off

1054
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: a win as well, so they might be feeling a

1055
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: little good about himself after a long losing streak. Goes

1056
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: in the rear view mirror. It's a weird time to

1057
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: do this, but I have to somewhat soften my stance

1058
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: on the Panthers, where I had expressed utter disbelief, because

1059
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 1: you look at that Seahawks game, and what I saw

1060
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: was the most exciting Panthers offense that I've watched in

1061
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: a long time. That they are incredibly uh their speed based.

1062
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: I think the Christian McCaffrey and Cam Newton in that

1063
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: game just there are moments of game flow where they

1064
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: are rumbling down the field against Seattle, and I love

1065
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: what you have with d J. Moore, And I do

1066
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: think this here's a thing. You can't dismiss them entirely

1067
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: without dismissing the entire NFC East, which I happily would

1068
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: do except one of them are going to get into

1069
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And I think that game was on a

1070
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: defense that's not what it was, and it's on uh

1071
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: a hideous afternoon by Graham Gono where things just yeah,

1072
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: they should have won that game exactly. And the inability

1073
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: to pick up one yard when they need to write,

1074
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: which is that happens, which is important though that's an

1075
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: important football scale pick up a yard. You had three

1076
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: or four different different chances in that game where if

1077
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: you pick up a yard you win the game. I

1078
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: did not love their places them from a team from

1079
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 1: a team that cut its inside runner. C. J. Anderson

1080
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: I I just wish I love watching camp play, and

1081
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: you're right, it's a it's the best Panthers often. I

1082
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: just wish they were with the Panthers defensive two because

1083
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: that team, if you put this offense with one of

1084
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: those defenses, that team is in the mix for the

1085
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Let's move on. So the next game, got

1086
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,479
Speaker 1: a lot of games, Get two, fellas, gotta keep moving.

1087
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: The Chiefs nine and two. Uh yeah, they took the

1088
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: l put up fifty one and still lost. I don't

1089
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: think that's ever happened before. So uh uh. They had

1090
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: a week to think about that. They had their buy

1091
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 1: and now here's their get healthy game, the Oakland Raiders.

1092
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: They go to the black hole. The Raiders stink, they

1093
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: can't play ball. Chris Westling and the Chiefs are gonna

1094
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: beat them by seven points. Yes, how how can anybody

1095
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: have any problem with that statement? You watch Matt Judean

1096
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: get three sacks in a row against one of the

1097
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: worst right tackles in the nf fell and now d

1098
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: Ford's coming in there to face the same right tackle.

1099
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: Or Chaz Green, who the Raiders signed this week, who

1100
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: might even play, who knows? But this you you can't

1101
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: protect David uh Derek Carr and the wide receivers that

1102
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: they're running out right now with being banged up. You

1103
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: can't evaluate this guy. This is the most broken offense,

1104
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: is the most block team. I can't remember such a

1105
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: nothing burger team this early in the season. You run

1106
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: an end around, there's not many players. They're depressing. They're

1107
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: running end arounds with a thirty three year old Jordy

1108
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: Nelson on a bum knee and he can't beat anyone

1109
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: to the corner. A defensive lineman he can't beat to

1110
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: the corner. You know, you get like when you hear

1111
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper say they they weren't using me the way

1112
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: that I would have used me a lot. You always

1113
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: hear players say that a lot of times it's a

1114
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: bunch of nonsense. But with when it comes to the Raiders,

1115
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: it's absolutely true. And what it's such an indictment on

1116
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: Jon Gruden Beyond all the essentially tanking like there there

1117
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: we should be seeing competent coaching. Well, how about a

1118
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: guy like Karl Joseph who was a first round pick

1119
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: and was benched earlier in the year and now is

1120
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: one of the best defensive players It's like, why was

1121
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: I know he was injured for a while, but it's

1122
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 1: like he was in the dog almost they were gonna

1123
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: almost cut him. The most significant development to me in

1124
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: this game and this week was Eric Barry returning to

1125
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: practice for the Chiefs. I mean you, you just don't

1126
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: know what kind of player he could be when he returns.

1127
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be this week, but

1128
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: it's been a year and a half since we've seen him.

1129
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: One of the best defensive players in the league. What

1130
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: a what an addition he could be to that team

1131
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: if he's anywhere near his old his old status. That's

1132
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: just one of those games. Let's pick this game. Well,

1133
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: this is one of those games where like a beat

1134
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: writer be like, if they lose to the Raiders, I'll

1135
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: walk back to Kansas City from Oakland. But um, I

1136
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: will not do it. I will go Chiefs ten to nine.

1137
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: I was joking, but I like to score, uh West.

1138
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: So we have to hear from a certain sponsor, don't we.

1139
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: Well you may or may not have heard, but Lowe's

1140
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: is the new home of Perhaps, which means that at

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Speaker 1: lows you'll find an ever growing selection of mechanics tools tools, storage,

1142
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: and more in store and online with Wes. You should

1143
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 1: be doing this reads every week. It's like Collinsworth Reading,

1144
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Speaker 1: ready to tackle projects throughout your home. If one of

1145
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: those projects happens to be in a really tight space

1146
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: to get to, then you definitely need to check out

1147
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: the ratchet. He's also like the guy like, even if

1148
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: you guys disagree with this, he's the guy of the

1149
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: group that seems most likely to be using a racket

1150
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: ratchet wrench. Now maybe you would disagree, but I think

1151
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: that he just seems like the guy that I think

1152
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: you're sort of dismissing Dan, and I would know I'm saying, like,

1153
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: but he's the guy who would get hired for the commercial,

1154
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: even if in real life you guys are the ones

1155
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: doing it, he'd be the guy that gets hired. I

1156
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,919
Speaker 1: still don't agree with that at all. But go ahead,

1157
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: you guys want to talk about all this stuff, all

1158
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: this nonsense, but let me tell you about what's really important.

1159
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: A three degree arcs swing. You guys, do you know

1160
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: what that does? Had some degrees We didn't either, apparently

1161
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: and Mark have no idea what it what it does? Oh,

1162
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: that three three degree arcs means you can loosen or

1163
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: tighten bolts with less movement. And it was hard to

1164
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: reach spot absolutely saying hey connects with a rural listening.

1165
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: Greg just called me, will you stop offending everyone like

1166
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: little little? Do you know that I am actually doing

1167
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: this read with a piece of straw in my mouth

1168
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: and a tall glass lemonade A. The one thing I

1169
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: would say is you got to pick up the speed

1170
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 1: a little bit. The tempo. Well, it's a little hard

1171
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: when three other people are doing this. You know what,

1172
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: how about just a tad of encouragement. Listen here waldorphan

1173
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: statler that should make that three degree arts wing should

1174
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: make it easy to tackle any auto or d I

1175
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Speaker 1: Y project on your list. Plus, they come in a

1176
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Speaker 1: gun metal chrome finish that's not only sharp looking, it

1177
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Speaker 1: makes them corrosion resistant. What color is this? Gun metal chrome?

1178
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Speaker 1: I got a wallet that's gone to the Africa's to

1179
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Speaker 1: the Africa shot the new home of Craftsman today at

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Speaker 1: dot com slash Around. That's lows dot Com slash Around.

1181
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: All right, Greg, you're on the read next week. But

1182
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: you're doing great West It's very fun. We yeah, we

1183
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: interrupted you. Uh. The Jayman, the new York Jets are

1184
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: three and eight. Uh, they're the riding a five game

1185
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: losing streak, and now they head to Nashville to face

1186
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titoons, who once upon a time some people

1187
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: took seriously. I don't know if that's the case anymore,

1188
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: because they couldn't beat the Colts on the road, they

1189
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: could not beat the Texans on the road, and as

1190
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: a result, they're now five and six and in dire straits. Uh.

1191
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: The good news uh here Greg is that the Jets

1192
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: are as forgettable and bland as any team in football

1193
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: right now, and might not even have um uh Sam

1194
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: Donald back for this week, but we will see. It

1195
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: looks like it's gonna come down the wire. Yeah, and

1196
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: in the way McCown played last week, you know, I

1197
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: don't know if they'd have a better or or worst.

1198
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: It's the wind. McCown looks fine. He looked kind of

1199
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: back to being the normalm accoun last week. Here's the thing.

1200
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: The Titans are the a f C. S packers, though

1201
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: they've kind of shown us that they're a mediocre team,

1202
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: but their schedule is so incredibly easy. We're gonna be

1203
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: talking about them. I mean, yes, they could stub their toe.

1204
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: But their next three weeks are Jets at home, Jags

1205
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: at home, Giants on the road, so that they'll lose

1206
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: one of those, they got a chance and even terrible

1207
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: on the road. Right they have one of those on

1208
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: the road, and it's against the Giants. I'm just saying

1209
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,919
Speaker 1: they have the easiest schedule in the league period. Four

1210
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: out of five at home. The last two are are

1211
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: tougher Redskins and Colts. But those aren't, you know, world beaters,

1212
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: and they I just think over the next I'm saying,

1213
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: over the next couple of weeks, Jets, Jags, don't talk

1214
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: about the Colts, Jets. We'll see where they are in

1215
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: week seventeen. I mean, I hope you're right, but I'm

1216
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: I don't think. I'm not just pencil And then in Jets,

1217
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: Jags and Giants. You know, it just wouldn't surprise me

1218
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: if Mariota and who's been playing a little better overall,

1219
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: I would say, figure they figure out a way to

1220
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: coach up and win these those games. That's it. And

1221
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: then they're eight and six in a in a pretty

1222
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: crowded race. This is a team that has so much

1223
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: more energy at home than it does on the road.

1224
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: You can't expect him to go into the Giants in

1225
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: three weeks and win. I mean, I know you love

1226
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: that schedule, but I agree that there they'll trip up something.

1227
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: And they don't have They don't have much going on.

1228
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: They have Corey Davis is their one receiver. They like

1229
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: have no one they can count on after that. They

1230
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: don't have a running game. Dion Lewis is a great player,

1231
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: I think, but they don't really run in We saw

1232
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: it again on Monday. I'll use the line again. It's

1233
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: a dred and twenty yard field, the tender re incline.

1234
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: Watching them try to move the ball down the field,

1235
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: it's a tough watch. They need to be more dynamic.

1236
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: And Marcus Mariota has one of the great statistical games

1237
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: in terms of accuracy ever. But at any point in

1238
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: that game where you're like, oh, the Titans are dangerous,

1239
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: it was like the most It was very much Mariota

1240
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: in a nutshell because the stats are good. You saw

1241
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: the nice midrange throws, and yet he, unlike Watson, I

1242
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: don't think handles pressure as well. He's not. He's not

1243
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: using his feet as well, certainly as Watson and so

1244
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: you're just sort of wanting a little more. Why are

1245
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: you throwing the ball forty five times with Josh McCown

1246
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: because their offensive coordinator is not good? You know that

1247
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 1: that checks out. I need no for they move. You

1248
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: know they moved the ball, okay again, but why so

1249
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: conservative with Donald? And then you get done, you're thrown

1250
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: Let Donald flinging around that way when he's in there.

1251
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,919
Speaker 1: Come on, in general, the idea that you would throw

1252
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: it that much with McCown. It's just with me with

1253
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: the Jets, and I love the Jets with all my heart.

1254
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: But as long as McCown's playing, and there's really nothing

1255
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: to talk about, they just they just they're just gonna

1256
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 1: exist here. I have one point on the Jets. What

1257
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: is it to talk about that penalty? People always talk

1258
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: about penalties. You gotta you can't take. Penalties are overrated.

1259
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: The Jets lead the league in the fewest amount of penalties.

1260
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: That's how much not having penalties? Well, I guess it's

1261
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: more like if there were two equal teams, if you're

1262
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: a trash bag team. Over the course of the season,

1263
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: a lot of great teams have a lot of great

1264
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: lot of I would not mind the Jets are still

1265
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: hanging in the periphery for the number one pick. I

1266
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: would not mind if they lost all or most of

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Speaker 1: these games down the stretch. And if if I somehow

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Speaker 1: can get Donald to have, you know, get back on

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Speaker 1: the field and look good, that you could have best

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Speaker 1: of both worlds. But I'm just annoyed that that's my

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01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: best case scenario again here. But you could also trade

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Speaker 1: the first pick and get a bounty and start rebuilding

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Speaker 1: your team. That's the intro to my Executive of the

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Speaker 1: Year column, if you'll check it out. NFL dot COM's

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Speaker 1: last whistling the Minnesota Vikings six four and one. They

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Speaker 1: beat the Packers at home last week, a big win

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Speaker 1: uh in their quest to get back to the playoffs. Uh.

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01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 1: And now here's a big test. They go to Foxborough,

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01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: the throne of ease, the Pats, who uh again beat

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Speaker 1: up on an a f C East foe the Jets

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01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: that last week. So they're eight and three, and all

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01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden, here they are locked in as as

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01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: things stand at the number two pick marks the number

1284
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: two spot in the a f C playoff. Picture your

1285
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: thoughts on this game. It's a good one. It is

1286
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: and it's it's you know, I feel like with the

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Speaker 1: Vikings because I kind of find myself to be a

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01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,919
Speaker 1: bit of a like a pocket Vikings fan. I incorrectly

1289
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: lauded them for a team of a t L two

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01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,439
Speaker 1: years ago and never heard the end of it last year,

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01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: thought that they were the team we could have seen

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01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: them play at homelessly the voices in your mind that

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01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: you can't hear the end of it from right, Well,

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01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: that's fair. But I mean you're six four and one,

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01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: and I don't know how excited I should be that

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01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: you beat Green Bay because you know how I feel

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Speaker 1: about them. This is the game where how do you

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01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: feel about the Packers? I mean, we just rewind twenty

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01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: one minutes. We've been through it. But if listen, if

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Speaker 1: you want to turn heads and have I think this

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01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: would be the game where if you're Minnesota and you

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01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: want people to start to buy in, and you want

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01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: to tell yourselves, we can buy into ourselves that you

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01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: go and beat a Patriots team that I find to

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01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: be less than invincible. I I was not like overwhelmed invincible.

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01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: They're invincible. I was not overwhelmed with that Jets performance

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01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: at all. Not I feel the same way like I

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01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: feel like Greg had some takeaway like the Patriots are back.

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01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: That was an impressive game and it's tied thirty third.

1310
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: Course that was not my take away. It was some

1311
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: underlying things that I think are positive with the team.

1312
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: That they're essentially healthy and the parts of the team

1313
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: that I want to come together, especially offensively. That they're healthy,

1314
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: they can start getting some continuity, and you saw something.

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01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: It was their best pass rushing game for what it's

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01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: worth all season. I'd like to see some things like

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01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: Brady to do his trademark stuff. They get the ball

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01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: right before halftime. Can you do a ninety eight yard

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01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: drive and do your trademark thing where you score right

1320
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Speaker 1: before the half and then score coming out of the half,

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01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: And they couldn't do it. To me, that was a test,

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01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: and I didn't see him pass. I'm with you. I

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01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: mean the Vikings. You know, it's they haven't the whole

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01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: thing all your long, and they're not the defense from

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01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: last year, but they right now lead the league in

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01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: sacks per game, and they lead the league in allowing

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01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: the fewest big plays. I like that against New England

1328
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: because if you got a little bit of a better

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01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: Brady Tom Brady version against the Jets just because they

1330
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: couldn't do anything get in his face and disrupt him.

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01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: Pause chaos for New England. I think what a great

1332
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: matchup up front on both sides. I think it's a

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01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 1: great test for both these teams too. For the Patriots

1334
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: offensive line, who's had a lot of injuries at tackle,

1335
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: but they're healthy right now. It's a pretty good run

1336
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: blocking group. Can they push Lindvold, Joseph and Sheldon Richardson around?

1337
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: Can they protect Brady? Uh? And then on the other side,

1338
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: as I said, the Patriots pass rush I had their

1339
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: best game of the year. Can they get after Kirk Cousins.

1340
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: I think it's it. I'm really excited for this. Gilmore

1341
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: versus the You're gonna a lot of good matchups, and

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01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots do respond at home and I'm

1343
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: gonna lock it up. Let me uh, let me speak

1344
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: on that as well, greg Um. The Patriots from about

1345
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: week I don't have the stats, but I can tell

1346
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: you it's gonna be closed from week thirteen through seventeen.

1347
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: Going back in the last decade or so, they're probably

1348
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: playing in the neighborhood of eight eight fifty ball maybe better.

1349
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: And uh and I need a win in the worst

1350
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: way in this lock competition of three games out, got it.

1351
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm in almost win out territory here. Uh So I'm

1352
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: gonna put myself in a no lose situation. I'm gonna

1353
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: lock up. The Patriots take care of business at home

1354
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: against the Bikes because they always do this time of year.

1355
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: And if it works against me, hey, yeah, that's a

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01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: good way to And you're happy, yeah, you, But which

1357
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: would you? I almost feel like you would rather the

1358
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: Patriots when it comes down to it, and and there's

1359
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: thirty seconds left in the game, and and the Vikings

1360
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 1: are lining up for a field goal. You're hoping that

1361
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 1: goes into winter? Yeah? Absolutely, And it's not even close.

1362
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: Patriots do average almost fifteen more points per game at

1363
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: home than on the road. Everything you guys have been, Yeah,

1364
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: they they're undefeated at home, not been good on the road.

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Speaker 1: Everything you're saying that this isn't the same Patriots team,

1366
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: it's absolutely supported in every analytics. They have their lowest

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01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: el rating, which is five thirty eight. We have been

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01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: since two thousand nine. Orchestra they're they're eight third. I

1369
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: think they're eighth or ninth in Football Outsiders. So I

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Speaker 1: think that's the funny thing, is like, yeah, they're not

1371
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 1: the same Patriots, but they're also a super Bowl there

1372
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: in the mix too. I am no longer jealous about

1373
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: the whole Josh Gordon situation because he does not look

1374
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: to me like the Josh Gordon of old. He's he's

1375
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: huge though for their team. It's good good for that.

1376
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: I just don't miss him the same way that I know.

1377
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: He's not the guy that he was, but he last

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01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: week especially, I thought he was a little more integrated

1379
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: into the offense, and I like what I saw, not

1380
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 1: what you were looking for. The responses there was it.

1381
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he's their number one. Mark wanted to you

1382
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: guys to be like, yeah, he's so we've been saying,

1383
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 1: he is not the same guy. Edleman. Edleman looks good

1384
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: to me, looks fast. If you want to feel better

1385
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: about the Browns Patriots trains, just look at Danny Shelton

1386
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: this year. What a bust that guy has been so there.

1387
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: I could have told you that I would like to

1388
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: see Baker Mayfield with Josh Gordon. I still don't think,

1389
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: oh no, no doubt, but it's it's just that it's

1390
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: not like he's lighting up. I'm sure he'll probably be

1391
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 1: like the Super Bowl m v P two months, six

1392
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: weeks from now. He's a good starting receiver San Francisco.

1393
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: For to Diners are two and nine. Um like the Jets,

1394
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: it's kind of just a matter of get your draft

1395
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: positioning and you know, get your quarterback on the field.

1396
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: For the Niners, w won't happen until next September with

1397
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: Jimmy GE's knee injury. There on the road against the Seahawks,

1398
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: who after doing great work in the last two weeks,

1399
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: uh West again, first against the Packers, uh then last

1400
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: week stealing one from the Panthers. Panthers on the road.

1401
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: Here's a well earned cupcake at home. Oh, this is

1402
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: a legit cupcake. The forty Niners are not a good team.

1403
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: Their old line got whooped last week by Vita Vea

1404
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 1: and company. Vitave I had like three or four and

1405
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: Vita veas what Danny Shelton wanted to be exactly. Without

1406
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: Pierre Garson and and Marquis Goodwin, You're you're asking Nick

1407
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 1: Mowins to throw behind the league offensive line to like

1408
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: a trio if slot receivers, this offense is shot right now.

1409
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 1: Outside of Matt Brita and George kittle Um and and honestly,

1410
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what. They don't have much to build

1411
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: on that would The drafts haven't been good now. This

1412
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 1: is like the week of rackoning for John Lynch, and

1413
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 1: I think I think it's early to go too crazy

1414
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 1: about it, but he's taken heat and he deserves it.

1415
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: I'll stand behind Shanahan as a great coach in a

1416
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: great offensive. Absolutely if you lose him, people will line

1417
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 1: up to get him. And uh, Teahawks really miss kJ right.

1418
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: This is not a game that I think it matters,

1419
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: but I'm sick of them waiting to like follow behind

1420
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: to try to win the game, and by throwing it's

1421
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: like you don't have to fall behind by run run

1422
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: pass for the first two quarters to do that. I

1423
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 1: I do think that that that Panthers Seahawks game was

1424
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,959
Speaker 1: was fun to watch, and that the Russell Wilson performance

1425
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: was one of the best in a long time. And

1426
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,719
Speaker 1: even though I thought all you're like all the Seahawks

1427
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: are kind of trying to make something on offense where

1428
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,759
Speaker 1: they don't have all the parts like they felt weapons

1429
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: rich at times last week against the Panthers. Tyler Lockett

1430
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 1: Matt Harmon's boy finally having his breakout. You're a lot

1431
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 1: of fun to watch. Let's move on Sunday night football.

1432
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: Here's a good one. Speaking of a reckoning, this is

1433
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: it the Charger. This is what we've been waiting for

1434
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: with the Superchargers. Here's the test. They're eight and three.

1435
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: They had that hiccup against Denver two weeks ago, but

1436
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: then they beat up on a bad Cardinals team. They're

1437
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: eight and three. They have a chance, uh outside chance

1438
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: to win their division. Uh. And if they did that,

1439
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: they could get up by and then who knows what's

1440
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: what happens. But here's your test. The Pittsburgh Steelers seven

1441
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: three and one. Uh. They are in their own building, Greg,

1442
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: they're at Hines and they're also coming off a disappointing loss. Uh.

1443
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: Where do you stand in this game? Who are you

1444
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:20,440
Speaker 1: feeling good about this week? I? Like you am so excited.

1445
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: This is what I've been waiting for. As like, we've

1446
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: been rooting on the Chargers here for a while, I

1447
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: mean in the studio for three or four years to

1448
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: get to a point where they're legitimately at this level

1449
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 1: for a big game. They're gonna be in primetime three

1450
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 1: of the next four weeks. Right, they didn't put themselves

1451
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: behind I don't feel like yeah, and I don't feel

1452
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: a strong um inclination that they're better than the Steelers.

1453
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 1: I probably I think the Steelers are a little bit

1454
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 1: better of a team and that they're at home. So

1455
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: if I had to choose, I would take them. But

1456
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 1: I do look to Philip Rivers sometimes for wisdom. And

1457
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 1: he talked. He wears his hat every week. He talks

1458
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 1: about it a lot. And it says, uh says nunca

1459
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: che a and that's Latin, but he says that's how

1460
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 1: he says it. That's a Georgia way to say it.

1461
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: And it's from the Bible, and it says, begin again,

1462
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: after every interception, begin again, after every touchdown, Begin again.

1463
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: And I've been just like watching this Chargers team finally

1464
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: try to put the past behind them, and they're living

1465
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 1: in the moment. And Chargers fans, the one that have

1466
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: stuck around, you know, nunca chep a, begin again. Let's

1467
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: make a new Chargers you know tradition in Los Angeles

1468
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 1: and win some of these tough games on the road.

1469
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: I want to see it. I thought you're about to

1470
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: start a rain dance. Oh, a new tradition in laws. Ang,

1471
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: I don't winning on the road like, well, that's where

1472
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: they're at their best. I just mean, like with this, forget,

1473
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what complete in a row, right, not

1474
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 1: worrying about what happened. Forget about what happened in the

1475
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: past with this Chargers team. This is a new team

1476
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: and it's really talented, and Joey bos is playing great.

1477
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 1: I I don't know if they're better than the Steelers are,

1478
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: not to know, I'm not. I think they can get

1479
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 1: over the loss of Melvin Gordon and the for a

1480
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:06,719
Speaker 1: week or two. You know, there's a there's a narrative

1481
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: out there that the Broncos game plan worked against the

1482
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 1: Steelers offense that had five thirty yards uh Antonio Brown

1483
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 1: over threw Jalen Samuels on a trick play that should

1484
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 1: have been a touchdown. Xavier Grimble lost a football a

1485
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 1: fumble that should have been a touchdown. Ben Over threw

1486
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster wide open on a deep ball. James

1487
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 1: Washington dove for a ball that he could have scored

1488
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: standing up if he would have just ran through the ball.

1489
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: They left over a hundred yards and twenty points on

1490
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 1: the field in Denver. Scheme did not stop what the

1491
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: Steelers were doing. The Steelers stopped themselves. Ben had a

1492
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: career high twenty five completions at halftime and um critics

1493
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: of Ben Roethlisberger and Baker Mayfield this week shut up.

1494
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: Say you hate them, that's fine. Just say you hate him.

1495
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 1: You don't like them, you hate him, you don't like

1496
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: anything about him, but bending yourselves in all kinds of

1497
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 1: different directions to make points about them. Ben is fifteen

1498
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: year veteran with two Super Bowls, and he's the quarter

1499
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: If he was to criticize the rookie receiver for doing

1500
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: something stupid, that's his job. I did not click into

1501
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 1: a single one job. I thought you were talking about

1502
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 1: his interception or whatever. But I'm with you. Don't compare

1503
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: him to a wide receiver criticizing teammates. He's the quarterback.

1504
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: He's been in the league fifteen years. If you hate

1505
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: him because he's a bad person, that's fine, But don't

1506
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: tell us he's a bad leader because of that. I

1507
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: thought you were about to lock it up and up.

1508
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I want to give you one amazing. I

1509
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: want to give you one amazing. These two quarterbacks, Rivers

1510
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:36,799
Speaker 1: and Big Ben. Since three when free agency started, zero

1511
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: point zero seven percent of players have remained exclusively with

1512
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 1: a single team for fifteen plus seasons. Not totally shocking,

1513
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: but that is sixteen players out of sixteen thousand, five

1514
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty six, and Big Ben and Philip Rivers

1515
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: are obviously two of them. I've take that. It is

1516
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: a fun matchup. I mean, it's great to see these

1517
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: two guys going at it. This is one of those

1518
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 1: I want to start. The Roethlisberg have been playing on

1519
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 1: their teams for a long time, a long long time.

1520
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 1: And I mean, wouldn't Eli Manning be another one too.

1521
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 1: Evidence suggests he's a third. Antonio Brown is not having

1522
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 1: an Antonio Brown season. He's fourteenth right now in the NFL.

1523
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was telling Vance Joseph said

1524
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: after the game they were determined not to let Brown

1525
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: beat them, and that Steelers still through at him and

1526
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: it did help them the way that they threw at

1527
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: him thirteen times for sixty one yards. He's been extremely inefficient,

1528
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 1: had way more targets than Smith Schuster for the year,

1529
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 1: but as two hundred fewer yards, and I think it's

1530
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: a lot is going to have to come down on

1531
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger just trusting Smith Schuster, who's getting done, and their

1532
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 1: third receiver, because those guys are just getting easy matchups.

1533
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: One on one matchup, he's got two tight ends on

1534
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: pace for eight hundred yards. Right, yeah, one other Antonio

1535
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: Brown note, his numbers, by the way, are still very good,

1536
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: They're just not at that level as a touchdowns. Yes,

1537
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 1: he also is the wide receiver. Uh well, he leads

1538
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: league in targets, but all so the receiver that's had

1539
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: the most uncatchable balls throwing his way as well. So

1540
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: I don't think he's playing bad. I just think it's

1541
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 1: not efficient connection. Teams are sending to two guys at

1542
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: him every single place. Also, the monstrous numbers that Juju

1543
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,879
Speaker 1: Smith is putting up are in some degree because Antonio

1544
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 1: Brown is drawing so much about keeping has a star

1545
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: though he yeah, he's Every five years they find a

1546
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: new guy who's going to be there forever and be awesome.

1547
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: I don't think James Washington is going to be that guy.

1548
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,719
Speaker 1: Keep an eye on the running back position on both sides. Obviously,

1549
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon out James Conner last three games, his numbers

1550
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: of kind of uh tick downward. Is he gonna bounce

1551
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 1: back and have a big game or did he pee?

1552
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 1: This is the game for him against the Chargers defense

1553
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:47,759
Speaker 1: without Denzel Perriman. This is the game for him. Monday

1554
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 1: Night football. Well, let's pick that game by the one

1555
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 1: you pet you locked up. Obviously, I think West is

1556
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: gonna win that lock. I think it's gonna be Steelers

1557
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 1: like twenty four type deal. You know what I want

1558
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 1: us to be. I kind of kind of into I'm torn,

1559
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 1: damn it, because I want I don't want the Patriots

1560
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 1: to get a buy, but I also don't think the

1561
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 1: Charges will catch the Chiefs, so they're not gonna get

1562
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 1: a buy. So I have buy that logic. Even though

1563
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 1: I want the Chargers to win, I'm gonna pick. I'm

1564
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: just gonna pick the Charges now because that's what I

1565
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 1: want to happen. And there's no repercussions in this little

1566
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,679
Speaker 1: pick sex sex. I don't know if I believe it helps,

1567
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:25,759
Speaker 1: but that's what I'm rooting for. I'm rooting for the Chargers.

1568
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: All right. The Redskins are six and five. A two

1569
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: game lead losing streak has cost them uh their sole

1570
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 1: possession of first place in the NFC East. They traveled

1571
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 1: to Philly to face the Eagles Mark who came back

1572
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 1: on the Giants wiped out a fairly large deficit. But

1573
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: it's the Giants, so you don't want to get too crazy.

1574
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 1: Eagles gotta win this game to stay in the race

1575
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: or it's by yeah. And I don't believe in the

1576
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 1: Eagles at this point, really at all. I think they're

1577
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: essentially capable of being annoying enough to do their part

1578
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: to ensure that we get someone coming out of the

1579
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: NFC East as an eight and eight playoff team destined

1580
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 1: for total implosion. So that does mean that they will

1581
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 1: win this week, And that does mean I'm gonna lock

1582
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: up the Eagles that I don't believe in at all.

1583
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: It's mistake, maybe, but you know what, I think they'll

1584
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 1: probably win two, So it's not. It's just it's a

1585
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: hard move to lock up a team you don't believe in.

1586
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: I've done that before, and then you you kill yourself

1587
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: if I think I think they're gonna win, I almost did.

1588
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 1: I almost went Steelers. But I also think this uh

1589
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 1: takes me out of any sort of emotional locks scenario

1590
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 1: on Sunday, which I did for the three of you.

1591
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: Certainly I like that strategy, but I don't it was

1592
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 1: a giving strategy. But I don't really like the pick

1593
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 1: because because I feel, well, Greg, where are we in

1594
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 1: the lock standings? You and me? Let I'm doing terrible?

1595
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 1: But I don't like that pick because I look at

1596
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 1: the Redskins and I look at the Eagles, and I

1597
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 1: see two very similar teams. And I know Colte McCoy,

1598
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 1: you know, tried a little too hard, trusted himself a

1599
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,719
Speaker 1: little too much, but he also made some plays on Thanksgiving. Uh.

1600
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 1: And this is not the same Eagles defense that we

1601
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: saw earlier in the season. And most importantly, it's a

1602
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 1: different Redskins team than we even saw last time around.

1603
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder looks like he could be back, Chris Thompson

1604
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,719
Speaker 1: looks like he could be back. Trent Williams he's back.

1605
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 1: And I wonder like what Eagles team has has Vegas

1606
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: been watching lately, because they're a touchdown favorite in this

1607
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: game and and in the doctor. That doesn't smell right.

1608
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 1: But the doctor's not feeling that, and I'm liking McCoy

1609
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 1: again as a touchdown road dog. It's raining and feel

1610
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 1: pay doctor rainmaker? Do you take credit? Wait? So are

1611
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 1: we again coming from totally different worlds Where I say,

1612
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: I say they're gonna win the actual football games. You

1613
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 1: say they're just gonna do your a little desert thing.

1614
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 1: They're just gonna cover. Yeah, yeah, it was desert like.

1615
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 1: It's like got Actually that happened last week. West One

1616
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: is locked, but the Giants came through in Philadelphia very

1617
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 1: similar rainy conditions where the Giants did their job. One

1618
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 1: thing about the Redskins. This could come back to haunt me,

1619
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 1: But I think Adrian Peterson has slowed down over the

1620
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: last few weeks, especially laterally. I don't think he looks

1621
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 1: nearly as explosive as he did earlier in the year.

1622
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 1: Not practicing today with the shoulder situation. You want to

1623
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:31,640
Speaker 1: jump out on that and what like you abandoned Aaron. No,

1624
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm just saying what I see. That's fair. Daniel look

1625
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 1: very disappointed with the singing performance. You know, you're you're

1626
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 1: up in arms about Annie Lennox. So we got we

1627
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: still could get. Yeah, there's still the music bed underneath.

1628
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 1: But I I I thought it was a It was

1629
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 1: my favorite drop because I like to hear your you're singing,

1630
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 1: But I cannot say that I wasn't disturbed. Can we

1631
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 1: isolate just the voice? And I was a little I

1632
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:02,719
Speaker 1: put it at the end ready time, especially one time

1633
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,839
Speaker 1: you put it on a doctor Rainmaker. Do you take credit?

1634
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 1: Here comes the rain again. It's like I just took

1635
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: his headset off. This is like a Delaware reunion tour.

1636
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 1: Here in the studio today, cars just flying off the road.

1637
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: You should have seen the space recording it. He like

1638
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: faced the wall and he turned around to the cameras

1639
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: and he literally had like he had one hand out

1640
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 1: and it was literally singing, you got this. Ever happens

1641
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 1: in you gotta make sure you get ever I have

1642
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 1: never happened. It's never happening. All right. That's it. Next

1643
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:49,599
Speaker 1: time you hear from us will be Sunday night. We'll

1644
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: recap all the games that we just previewed. Thank you

1645
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 1: to everybody for listening. Subreddit, go get a mirror. Uh

1646
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 1: and uh And that's it. I love you guys, have

1647
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: a great weekend. Then I had the signing off or

1648
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: quiet start the mailment the golden pipes of the old

1649
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 1: Boss and Ricky Hollywood behind the glass to be careful

1650
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 1: till Sunday night. Hey, dr rainmaker, do you take credit?

1651
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 1: Here comes the rain again, Here comes the rain again,

1652
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,839
Speaker 1: Here comes the rain again.