Speaker 1: Okay, Hi, everybody, welcome to the Renee Stubs Tennis Podcast.
Speaker 1: We are in New York City. We're not in my
Speaker 1: usual spot, but we are in a beautiful spot. We
Speaker 1: have a lovely view and Caitlin's had a couple of sidecars.
Speaker 2: Let's see what happens in the bar.
Speaker 3: Are rare occasion, but you know, tosty Memorial Day we did.
Speaker 2: Who serve?
Speaker 1: We did? That's right, Happy Memorial Day to everyone who
Speaker 1: served and is serving. And of course we also bumped
Speaker 1: into a little common downstairs in the bar.
Speaker 3: You know, if you're in the mix like we are. Yeah,
Speaker 3: sometimes you know, you just have some slebrity account.
Speaker 1: With Jennifer Hudson.
Speaker 2: Little common little you know, connect the darts, connect.
Speaker 1: The dice they were hapving. Maybe a sidecar as.
Speaker 2: Well, could be could?
Speaker 3: I mean, we are not in Paris, we are not
Speaker 3: sadly sadly, but we're in New York City.
Speaker 1: We do have to talk about, of course, what happened
Speaker 1: last week before we get to the French Open and
Speaker 1: what's going on there with all the shenanigans. You were,
Speaker 1: of course away for the weekend. I was in Indiana
Speaker 1: doing my you know, love of the liberty.
Speaker 3: Rough life getting to fly with celebrity out to their games.
Speaker 3: You know on the plane, do they have a stencil
Speaker 3: on the side.
Speaker 1: No, No, stencil is just all Delta, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: thank you Delta because they have done an amazing job
Speaker 1: giving the charter flights to the w NBA players. But no, Caitlin,
Speaker 1: you were busy on the weekend. I was busy on
Speaker 1: the weekend, which we were a bit late getting this out,
Speaker 1: but we do have to talk about Novak Djokovic. He
Speaker 1: joins a very very very special group of one hundred
Speaker 1: plus titles on the A Top two where he joins
Speaker 1: of course Raja Rafa and Jimmy Connors. Yes, people remember
Speaker 1: that guy. That guy won so many tennis matches and
Speaker 1: nine titles.
Speaker 3: He won so many tennis matches, singles, Grand Slams, played
Speaker 3: eight hundred. Yeah, I mean, this guy, we forget about
Speaker 3: him a little bit, and I feel like, you know,
Speaker 3: we can get into why, but just results themselves, they're
Speaker 3: sort of staggering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is staggering. And the staggering part is that
Speaker 1: he didn't win more Grand Slams. You know, when you
Speaker 1: think about how many totonomous he won, he didn't win
Speaker 1: more Grand Slams, but at the same time, you know,
Speaker 1: he was going up against John McEnroe, and you know
Speaker 1: Yvonne Landell and Matt's v Landa and all these great
Speaker 1: champions from the past, and he was a little volatile,
Speaker 1: but clearly he got the job done at regular autonomous
Speaker 1: in fact that he has one hundred and nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jimmy Caunors was kind of like our nick curious well,
Speaker 2: I mean, but.
Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit of as far as the personality is.
Speaker 1: But when we're talking about work ethic, no one worked
Speaker 1: harder than Jimmy Connors.
Speaker 3: And he had a mom who made sure that he
Speaker 3: did not miss a tournament.
Speaker 2: I said, serve, I mean.
Speaker 1: Kid, this guy wanted to win. He wanted to win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jimmy Canors is somebody we don't actually talk very
Speaker 3: much about, which is why I played will team tennis
Speaker 3: with him once.
Speaker 1: What was he like? Interesting cat? You know, he would
Speaker 1: like to have a side cow or two with us.
Speaker 2: I believe, let's put it that way.
Speaker 3: I the last I heard of Jimmy Connors is you
Speaker 3: could buy a couple's massage with Jimmy Connors.
Speaker 1: All of the things that I don't surprise me. Whatsover?
Speaker 2: What do I want to do that?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: But then you get a massage here in Florida, you
Speaker 3: get like, I don't know to hang out with Jim mccarnter's.
Speaker 1: Sometimes there's you know, there's some speries I would want
Speaker 1: to do that. I don't know where. You just keep
Speaker 1: them to yourselves. I'm going to keep my Jimmy Connor
Speaker 1: stories to myself. We'll look forward to them because he's fun.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2: Sure. So going back to Novak, yeah, tatle number one hundred.
Speaker 3: Obviously he now has the record for Grand Slams, but
Speaker 3: the tatos themselves not bad and.
Speaker 1: A title he should not have won. No, I mean
Speaker 1: he was down should Jube is playing out of his mind.
Speaker 1: He's serving out of his mind. He has not lost
Speaker 1: his serve the whole match. He gets up four to
Speaker 1: three in the third, he plays a great point. He
Speaker 1: has a complete sitter forehand. Like when I say sitter,
Speaker 1: Novak is literally falling over himself on the left side
Speaker 1: of the court, running to a backhand who becomes people
Speaker 1: on the perfect inside out foehand, which you know I love.
Speaker 1: Don't come in across court fourhand people, if you do
Speaker 1: cover the cross court, that's just my golden rule in tennis.
Speaker 1: He comes in on the perfect shot, he has an
Speaker 1: absolute sitter, and he just stinks it into the net.
Speaker 1: And you could just tell because Herbie is like a
Speaker 1: five year old in a fifty year old buddy. He
Speaker 1: looks like someone has just stolen his blanket, like his
Speaker 1: favorite blanket. He just was like, I'm not gonna beat Novak.
Speaker 1: I haven't beaten him once and I'm not going to
Speaker 1: do it today. It was like, what the hell? It
Speaker 1: was such an easy point, and I promise you, I
Speaker 1: really do believe if he wins that point, he wins
Speaker 1: the match. Yeah, because he was serving Novak off the court.
Speaker 1: Novak couldn't do anything. He broke him early in the
Speaker 1: first game of the third set, and he was holding
Speaker 1: serve like no big deal. And then when you miss
Speaker 1: a shot like that, you go that's when all the
Speaker 1: negative things hit your brain, like a fuck, maybe I
Speaker 1: won't beat this guy. Oh my god, I can't believe
Speaker 1: I missed that shot. And then he didn't get any
Speaker 1: first service in hard out right now, I should have
Speaker 1: been up thirty love, you know, Instead he was down,
Speaker 1: and then on the game point, Novak played a typical
Speaker 1: Novak Djokovic game point where he ran and hustled down
Speaker 1: this one ball and hit a skyrocketing lob into the
Speaker 1: air that was like a ranch of Sanchez back in
Speaker 1: the early nineties that landed one foot inside both sideline
Speaker 1: and baseline, and you know, he gets himself back into
Speaker 1: this point miraculously, and then he wins the point ye
Speaker 1: and it's like four all, and you're just like it's over.
Speaker 3: It's over, even to the point that really matter what
Speaker 3: the score is at that point, it's over.
Speaker 1: Spiritually momentum, the fact that he's never beaten Novak, the
Speaker 1: fact that he actually knows and cannot probably get that
Speaker 1: fullhand out of his brain. And then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden he wins in the tiebreak, and Novak just walks
Speaker 1: to the net. He doesn't really celebrate, and because I
Speaker 1: think he feels sorry for he's like the nicest guy
Speaker 1: in the world, and he walks the net, literally shakes
Speaker 1: hands with him and says sorry, man, man.
Speaker 3: It's just like one of my favorite facts of this
Speaker 3: match is the first title that Novak cho has ever won,
Speaker 3: like twenty years ago, I.
Speaker 2: Think it was two thousand and five.
Speaker 3: Two and six was against Nico Massu. Nico Massu maybe
Speaker 3: you know him as having his own pro career. Maybe
Speaker 3: you know him because he was Dominic teams coach for
Speaker 3: a really long time. But now he is coaching who
Speaker 3: be her coach? Now he is in the stands watching
Speaker 3: the I don't want to call it a end because
Speaker 3: we don't know how many more tournaments Novak Djokovic is
Speaker 3: gonna play. But being there for the first because he
Speaker 3: was on a losing sad and being there for the
Speaker 3: one hundredth on the.
Speaker 1: Losing side, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: It sort of feels nuts.
Speaker 1: That's a good little nuggy.
Speaker 3: It's like a little sort of tennis lorener that is classic.
Speaker 1: And the fact that Andy Murray wasn't there as a coach.
Speaker 3: Should we talk about the fact that Andy Murray got
Speaker 3: I don't want to say fired, but.
Speaker 1: They probably both realized that it wasn't working for the
Speaker 1: either of them or maybe nuts. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: know it didn't make sense at all, But look, Novak's
Speaker 1: done that stuff. Look he bought bars becka On, he.
Speaker 3: Bought you know, he's brought Andreas Andrea agacy.
Speaker 1: He's done this. You know, he went back. I saw
Speaker 1: do some Vemic was back with him. He was a
Speaker 1: former player, one of my old team tennis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lovely, lovely guy.
Speaker 1: Maybe they've been friends forever. They're about the same age,
Speaker 1: and I think that maybe dou Son's a little bit older.
Speaker 1: But it's just like it was interesting to see him
Speaker 1: in the box, and there's that familiarity of having someone
Speaker 1: like adu Son who just like very non judgmental, very positive.
Speaker 1: So he probably needs somebody like that in his corner
Speaker 1: right now, who speaks serbian as well.
Speaker 3: I always thought it was so weird because Andy Murray,
Speaker 3: to me, did the one thing that Novak was already
Speaker 3: really great at, which is like being tenacious and like never.
Speaker 1: Letting go and being a little crusty and kind of.
Speaker 3: Being crusty, like he doesn't need help doing that. He's
Speaker 3: already that and Andy was great at that, but Novak
Speaker 3: was maybe better. So it's kind of like what could
Speaker 3: Andy great champion? No slate intended, but what could he
Speaker 3: bring to the box?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean you could say that about anybody really,
Speaker 1: you know, who's going to come into the to the
Speaker 1: player box of Novak Djokovic.
Speaker 2: And any more than him.
Speaker 1: So there's no there's no greater player than him. The
Speaker 1: only person that could sit in that box and even
Speaker 1: remotely have the same thought process is Roger Ruff and
Speaker 1: Serena like really, or Jimmy Connors.
Speaker 2: Jimmy Connor's back out there, He's one, He's one return.
Speaker 1: Of Jimmy's done his fair share of coaching.
Speaker 3: Well we are, So what happened with Andy Roddick and
Speaker 3: Jimmy Connors didn't coach Maria for a hot minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember hearing her speak.
Speaker 3: We were actually doing a racket event with Evan on
Speaker 3: a boat and she was like, you know, a good
Speaker 3: executive because she was asking answering a question about like, hey,
Speaker 3: you know, how do you translate tennis skills into entrepreneurial skills?
Speaker 3: Because Maria sort of famously after her career had been
Speaker 3: like in the business world, yep, and Maria Andrea Pekovich,
Speaker 3: our cultural attest, was interviewing her and said, you know,
Speaker 3: she asked her this question and Maria was like, you know,
Speaker 3: the entrepreneurial skill I most have taken from tennis.
Speaker 1: Is to know when to call it interesting. For example,
Speaker 1: it's called your lane kind.
Speaker 3: Of and like Jimmy Connors was my coach, and I
Speaker 3: could tell immediately it wasn't gonna work out. So I
Speaker 3: called it and I was kind of like, oh, interesting,
Speaker 3: Like that's.
Speaker 2: Got a whole follow up. Yeah, can we get Jimmy
Speaker 2: Connors in the pod?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure, I mean he wanted to come on to
Speaker 1: my show and Amazon, but we had to keep rescheduling it.
Speaker 1: Not because of me.
Speaker 2: Should we do it? Called that massage first and then.
Speaker 1: Get a couple's massage going there with Jimmy. I just
Speaker 1: you know, stories sometimes when you play World Team Tennis,
Speaker 1: those stories will always stay with you because that's like,
Speaker 1: now I know why wy why NBA players and like
Speaker 1: players that are on the road all the time, W
Speaker 1: NBA whatever, and they travel together always as a team,
Speaker 1: why they get into up to no good?
Speaker 2: Because it is there.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, let's put it this way. I loved
Speaker 1: my time at World Team Tennis. I did. I didn't
Speaker 1: hook up, but there was a lot that did. Okay,
Speaker 1: some marriages came out of World Team Tennis, some divorces
Speaker 1: came out of World Team Tennis. What else? That's all
Speaker 1: I can tell you, Okay, A lot of fun. I
Speaker 1: love World Team Tennis as ever for their memoir. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's talk a little bit about also Rebakina. She
Speaker 1: won a tournament leading into Paris, barely got out of
Speaker 1: her first round though. That's the one thing about playing
Speaker 1: well and doing you know, winning a tournament the week before,
Speaker 1: it's really hard to back it up in a day
Speaker 1: or two. Completely different app sphere of New Paris compared
Speaker 1: to wherever you were Geneva, Strasburg in Strasbourg, very different
Speaker 1: to Paris. But she got through a first round, which
Speaker 1: is big. But she thanks her her absent coach from
Speaker 1: the player's box, but clearly in her ear twenty four
Speaker 1: to seven.
Speaker 2: Stay, yeah, yeah, it's trajeict.
Speaker 3: Just god, I don't have Alena Rubb back in and
Speaker 3: winning a lot of tournament's unclay.
Speaker 1: Well, Strasbourg is quite slippery, so it really does lend
Speaker 1: itself to somebody who plays quite big serving, big ball striking.
Speaker 2: So it's more grass.
Speaker 1: It's no, it's not grass, but it's just it's just
Speaker 1: hard to get the footing right and it tends to
Speaker 1: not be muddy or slow. It's quite a fun because
Speaker 1: it's quite hot down in the south of France, you know,
Speaker 1: so it does get it's a it's a beautiful place
Speaker 1: to go. I don't know if anyone has never been.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to Strasburg. It is gorgeous, just gorgeous.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, but having to back it up in
Speaker 1: a day quickly and barely getting through her first round,
Speaker 1: that would be a big relief for her because there
Speaker 1: was some place. I do want to give a bit
Speaker 1: of a shout out to Maya Joint, the Aussie who
Speaker 1: first Australian to win tournament since Ashbarty. Of course one
Speaker 1: was that Robert Yes, so I.
Speaker 3: Want to be super I watched her play one of
Speaker 3: the earlier round matches in yeah, great kid, should beat
Speaker 3: on a conye yes, uh, And I was really impressed.
Speaker 2: She looks like she was rounding in a form my joint.
Speaker 1: Shout out, yeah, shout out. Sadly, she lost in the
Speaker 1: first round of the French which is why it's so
Speaker 1: hard to back it up, but lost to another Australian
Speaker 1: Inla Tommy Janovich. So that was a bit of a
Speaker 1: tough first round for Maya. But well done, kiddo. That's
Speaker 1: a that's an amazing effort to win your first w
Speaker 1: T a title. Someone who didn't win a title leading
Speaker 1: into Paris is a guy that thinks he's going to
Speaker 1: win the French Open because he dreamed it. Our friend
Speaker 1: Alex Zverev, or is it Sasha Sasha Sasha his brother.
Speaker 2: The brother.
Speaker 3: Aka Alex is the one. You're having a senior moment, then,
Speaker 3: I like vision boarding your wins.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to say something positive.
Speaker 1: I cannot believe he actually came and said that, like,
Speaker 1: even if you dreamt that, keep that to yourself.
Speaker 3: So he last Hamburg, his hometown, complaining about the weather,
Speaker 3: complaining about the food, complaining about the balls, complaining It's like,
Speaker 3: come on, dude, like just not up, like shut.
Speaker 1: Complaining about the balls and every he complains. He complained
Speaker 1: about the balls and complain about.
Speaker 2: The rolls and rum. But it's just like, come on, bro,
Speaker 2: like just take it easy, just yeah, just let your rackety.
Speaker 1: In German halty clapper, which means basically shut a zip it.
Speaker 1: It's STEFFI Graff told me that one I wonder why
Speaker 1: helty clapper. She would tell me that on the court,
Speaker 1: just zip it.
Speaker 2: I mean, he is the what four seed three seeds?
Speaker 1: Well, thank God, he's not the second seed, because remember
Speaker 1: I was very upset about that happening, and he's not.
Speaker 1: He is in the I think, I don't know what
Speaker 1: he is, but he's not two.
Speaker 3: And that's all that matters because that means that the
Speaker 3: Alchoriz is too the top half well, because it just
Speaker 3: means that Karaz and Sinner will not be in the
Speaker 3: same half, which I know.
Speaker 1: So if you are three or four seeds, you get
Speaker 1: pulled out of the hat to be in the top
Speaker 1: or the bottom and over the last it feels like
Speaker 1: century of Grand slams, Sinner and Aucraz have been in
Speaker 1: the same half.
Speaker 3: And they should, really, given the set of men centers
Speaker 3: be playing, and course they should be the you know,
Speaker 3: the forces they did end up doing in Rome.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 3: The foreseed, Taylor Swift or as I've been calling him,
Speaker 3: clear the Swift, hasn't that been backing it up?
Speaker 2: Clearly?
Speaker 1: He is now officially not Klayler. No, he is going
Speaker 1: to be Grasser maybe sure, definitely not clay He has
Speaker 1: not played well. But I did mention last week on
Speaker 1: the pod that I think and this is just a
Speaker 1: this is just an open ended sort of question and
Speaker 1: conversation about coaching and about a player. At some point,
Speaker 1: I do feel and I did. I expressed this last week,
Speaker 1: and it's this is nothing against Mike Russell at all.
Speaker 1: I think he's he's a great coach, and I think
Speaker 1: it's an amazing with Taylor. But I think that there's
Speaker 1: a point where you've run your race with them, You've
Speaker 1: gotten to the end of the line, and you take
Speaker 1: you got to let the rope go. And I think
Speaker 1: that maybe it's a new he needs a new vice
Speaker 1: and he's here, maybe Andy Murray, but like I think
Speaker 1: Taylor to take that next step. And actually, now that
Speaker 1: I say that that's not a bad idea, that's but
Speaker 1: I do think that Taylor wants to take the next step.
Speaker 1: He wants to be He's gotten to you know, four
Speaker 1: in the world. He's gotten to a Grand Slam final
Speaker 1: thanks to Mike Russell, thanks to all the work that
Speaker 1: he's done. But maybe, and I know that Paul Anacon
Speaker 1: is still part of I don't even know where he
Speaker 1: is in the situation, but I do think that it's
Speaker 1: time to have somebody maybe that comes in that gives
Speaker 1: him a new voice and gives him a new perspective
Speaker 1: on how to get to the end of a Grand
Speaker 1: Slam and to win it, because I do think he
Speaker 1: has the capability of doing that. Do you think that
Speaker 1: he needs to improve his volleys if he wants to
Speaker 1: win a Grand Slam? I just I will believe that
Speaker 1: until the day that I can't talk, which is hopefully
Speaker 1: until the day I die. But I do think that
Speaker 1: that little added extra in his game will help him
Speaker 1: win a Grand Slam, possibly the US Open, maybe Wimbledon,
Speaker 1: But until then, I don't see him winning a Grand Slam.
Speaker 1: So and again I want to stress this is not
Speaker 1: a slight on Michael at all. He will do a
Speaker 1: great job with whoever he picks up next as a coach.
Speaker 1: But I do think that Taylor is really struggling now,
Speaker 1: and I think that it's time for a new voice
Speaker 1: in his head.
Speaker 3: Something I think a lot about, which is sort of unrelated,
Speaker 3: but I think actually kind of speaks to this, is
Speaker 3: like I think a lot about media and people who
Speaker 3: run companies, magazines, whatever.
Speaker 2: Just bear with me.
Speaker 3: At a certain point, it's like you've said all you
Speaker 3: have to say, You've put out all you have to do, Like,
Speaker 3: let's keep it moving and I think when it comes
Speaker 3: to coaching, it's kind of similar, which is like, you've
Speaker 3: expressed everything you've taught.
Speaker 2: The player, you know. I think there is a little
Speaker 2: bit of an expert.
Speaker 1: You're not going to come up with new shit as
Speaker 1: a coach five years later. You're just not. I mean
Speaker 1: you may but good, good, good for you if you do.
Speaker 1: But it's very rare, which is why Darren Kahle says,
Speaker 1: you know, really the shelf life of a great coach
Speaker 1: should be four or five years, because that's when you've
Speaker 1: gotten all of your information out. That's when you should
Speaker 1: have known the player as their best and at their worst,
Speaker 1: and how to make them better and how to make
Speaker 1: how to stop them from declining. And if you can't,
Speaker 1: you can't keep telling them the same thing.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: So and it's just like a parent apparently be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't believe I've been telling how
Speaker 1: to do that for a year and you told her
Speaker 1: one time and she did it, and I was like yeah,
Speaker 1: Because I'm not a parent, it's the same thing. It's
Speaker 1: like the same thing coming from the same coach. It's
Speaker 1: like fuck, I know. And then some other person could
Speaker 1: come along say sort of the same thing but in
Speaker 1: a different way, and they go, oh, I get it, and.
Speaker 2: You Andy Murray, what are you doing next?
Speaker 1: Andy Murray? What are you doing next? One thing I
Speaker 1: do want to talk about before we get to even
Speaker 1: what's going on at the French can we talk about
Speaker 1: the Nike outfits? Whoof? Woof? What I mean? Listen? They
Speaker 1: nobody does advertising commercials better than Nike when it comes
Speaker 1: to like someone winning a Grand Slam or you know,
Speaker 1: the Liberty winning last year with Sabrina you rescue, and like,
Speaker 1: there's certain things that they just you just go fuck.
Speaker 1: Nike never misses this stuff. Sometimes once or twice they
Speaker 1: have missed, but overall they're pretty great. A designs the
Speaker 1: hell I doing?
Speaker 3: But when Anne Center looks like a crem dement that
Speaker 3: you order it like an old timy bar.
Speaker 2: I mean, Jesus what Carlos.
Speaker 1: Carlos looks like he's just like, hey, dad, can I
Speaker 1: wear your shirt today? And he's just like going out
Speaker 1: of the court and the day no, don't wear Okay,
Speaker 1: he's already outs.
Speaker 2: So bad, it's uniformly bad.
Speaker 1: But who says, yeah, let's put the stripes across, Let's
Speaker 1: make them look fatter than they are.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't care. It's so bad. I know it's like
Speaker 2: junior versity.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you think some you know, financial
Speaker 1: bro here in New York is going to go into
Speaker 1: Paragon Sports. I have a beef with Paragons Sports. Have
Speaker 1: you seen my Instagram lately? There's a window outside of
Speaker 1: Paragon Sports of New There's a window outside of Paragon
Speaker 1: Sports with their hats like all the Giants, you know, Mats, Yankees,
Speaker 1: all of the things, and they don't have a liberty
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm not happy about it, but you know
Speaker 1: they do have They have Arizona in whatever their baseball
Speaker 1: team is. Yeah, they have that hat in the window.
Speaker 3: I did see this and I thought, Renee, save your energy.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not going to save my energy, Caitlin. I'm
Speaker 1: going to fight the fight for women's sports. That's fucking bullshit.
Speaker 1: You know, they're the only ones that won anything over
Speaker 1: the last i don't know, thirty years here in New York.
Speaker 1: What are you doing put one of their hats in
Speaker 1: your window? Okay, that's a total side rant. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but Paragon Sports do better.
Speaker 2: Do better? I do.
Speaker 3: I do think naked should care or just get out
Speaker 3: of the game, like, please, please care.
Speaker 1: You can't get out of the game.
Speaker 2: They could.
Speaker 1: No, they're so good normally, not all the time, not
Speaker 1: just I like sinners all black in rome. I thought
Speaker 1: that was cool.
Speaker 2: Hard is it a design? A black polish?
Speaker 1: Better than the fucking zebra crossings they've got going on
Speaker 1: today this tournament's.
Speaker 2: Yeh, rude. No, they just don't care. I think that's
Speaker 2: sort of the issue. Okay, so I just jumping into
Speaker 2: your well.
Speaker 1: One thing that just struck me. When we're talking about
Speaker 1: bad outfits, I was just thinking about the the extra uh,
Speaker 1: the extra Naomi Osaka was wearing today. It looked like
Speaker 1: she had little windmills in her hair. Man, Like, I
Speaker 1: just just atract from what you're trying to do. You
Speaker 1: gotta win.
Speaker 2: The faster we get past Naomi, the better for me.
Speaker 1: No, we need her in the game, and she's such
Speaker 1: a great player, but I just need our conversation.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm not sure I have that many productive No.
Speaker 1: Well, look, it was a good match, but I was
Speaker 1: a one dealing with injuries over the months.
Speaker 3: Took inspiration from seeing the RAFA plaque that did a
Speaker 3: fantastic job honoring this man.
Speaker 2: A lot of today's.
Speaker 3: Social media, a lot of the time on court was
Speaker 3: spent honoring Rafa and his fourteen titles, the Rolling garras
Speaker 3: they gave him obviously in a ceremony, but on the
Speaker 3: court itself, on the Philippe Chatrier Stadium.
Speaker 2: Court really starred Rolling Grass.
Speaker 3: They did a implanted sort of imprinted slidemark and fourteen
Speaker 3: title commemorative plack, absolutely brilliant, and they revealed it by
Speaker 3: brushing off the clay just like it was.
Speaker 1: So it was so brilliantly done. It was staleish and
Speaker 1: there was a few things that I would have done
Speaker 1: differently with the ceremony, but I thought that that was
Speaker 1: whoever came up with that idea to Shay. To Shay.
Speaker 1: It was just brilliant because every single player, now you know,
Speaker 1: who would walk over that every time now would be Serena.
Speaker 1: She was still playing because she was the only one
Speaker 1: player that would walk over the side of the court
Speaker 1: and she would walk back fourteen. I love that she
Speaker 1: used to walk on the episode all the time.
Speaker 2: All the time. I mean, listen, it's France.
Speaker 3: So I'm really happy, and really, if we didn't have
Speaker 3: like mimes or you know, uh, impromptu musical performance.
Speaker 2: You never know, like there's that they made.
Speaker 1: Of these butts, but it's so bad so it doesn't
Speaker 1: even look like him.
Speaker 3: No, it looks like the version of somebody who's yea,
Speaker 3: his eyes are beaty.
Speaker 2: It's nuts. So you know, it's not a guarantee they're
Speaker 2: gonna nail it. They take they take chances. If anything.
Speaker 3: One of the best things I read was Alejandro Davidovich.
Speaker 1: His fellows said, because you know I struggle with them.
Speaker 2: You have a hard time with this particular name.
Speaker 3: He had some very critical words for the farewell uh
Speaker 3: ceremony that accompanied Raffa's last match playing Davis cup In.
Speaker 2: I want to say it was I was the Malaga.
Speaker 3: They didn't do a thing. They didn't really the moment
Speaker 3: he was gonna.
Speaker 1: Well, they didn't want to do. They didn't want to
Speaker 1: have it because they went shore that they were going
Speaker 1: to lose and technically they probably should have won that match,
Speaker 1: that's right.
Speaker 3: So I felt, according to other Spaniards like kind of rush,
Speaker 3: not the moment. So I speak for everyone in tennis.
Speaker 3: I think when I say we all love ruff I
Speaker 3: wanted him to get his moment, and he did.
Speaker 1: The only people that don't like Ruffa are the very
Speaker 1: very parochially big stands of Novak. You know, you still
Speaker 1: get those people who that just right.
Speaker 3: For You're still doing that, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: But but I would say it's a very small percentage
Speaker 1: of tennis fans if you don't like Ruffia and Nadal.
Speaker 1: There's something literally mentally because no one, no one, no
Speaker 1: one was more professional, no one was more uh respected
Speaker 1: onto and he respected everyone. He walked on the.
Speaker 2: Court with effort. Yeah, exactly, I'll see.
Speaker 1: I'll get one little quick about one little quick thing
Speaker 1: about that. That whole thing. I thought it was really
Speaker 1: interesting that Rafa. One of the times that he got
Speaker 1: really emotional was when they brought out because someone was like,
Speaker 1: who are the people that were brought out before Rafa?
Speaker 1: Roger and Andy? And I said, all the staff that
Speaker 1: worked the French open, so people that I recognized, there
Speaker 1: were people that did the practice courts. A lot of
Speaker 1: them were not nice just an fyi to me, but
Speaker 1: to him they were really nice. Clearly he won a
Speaker 1: lot there, so that helped.
Speaker 2: We got some acts.
Speaker 1: But the one that they did brought out, the one
Speaker 1: they did bring out was a very nice young woman,
Speaker 1: but like all those people that came out, like the
Speaker 1: staff of the French Open, and he like got really emotional. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that shows you what kind of person he is.
Speaker 1: Good that he was like, Oh, these are all the
Speaker 1: people that I've that have helped me through the last.
Speaker 3: I think it needs to the way that people talk about,
Speaker 3: which was not only a champion who could like you know,
Speaker 3: be present and succeed in like the most intense, biggest moments,
Speaker 3: but a person for whom his workplace was sacrissing. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And he treated everybody and held doors and looked people
Speaker 3: in the eye and was cognizant of the fact that
Speaker 3: this entire tour and tennis really writ large and I'm
Speaker 3: sure all sports are really made up of people who
Speaker 3: you know, are workaday showing up, assigning practice courts, the
Speaker 3: people who sort of make the tour function and the
Speaker 3: sport function in.
Speaker 2: A very basic way.
Speaker 3: And I think for me, that's the legacy that Rafa leaves,
Speaker 3: not only these amazing collection of fourteen titles, not all
Speaker 3: the Grand Slams, but just the fact that he, as
Speaker 3: a professional athlete, showed up every single day and put
Speaker 3: is absolutely much into it as a human being.
Speaker 2: Possibly could.
Speaker 3: I mean, just you know, not a Rafa tribute moment,
Speaker 3: but like you know, I was describing to a friend
Speaker 3: this morning the radio way therapy he had to endure
Speaker 3: on his feet towards the end of the.
Speaker 2: Career, that he had just to walk on the on
Speaker 2: the court. So to me, just.
Speaker 3: The entirety of his career really is a testament to that.
Speaker 3: And tying it back to Paula Badosa's today, my hope
Speaker 3: for him is that obviously he has the academy named
Speaker 3: after him, he has center courts named after him, He
Speaker 3: has a legacy that will be you know, obviously remembered
Speaker 3: for decades to come. But the fact that on the
Speaker 3: very day that his retirements heremony took place, a fellow
Speaker 3: Spaniard took the court, looked at the plaque on that
Speaker 3: court and got inspired to dig out a win against
Speaker 3: a very worthy, really impressive Naomi Osaka.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just come off winning a tournament.
Speaker 2: Had come off winning a challenger tournament.
Speaker 3: And to her credit, I mean, listen, the national surfaces
Speaker 3: have never been her favorite, but she has worked her
Speaker 3: ass off, gotten herself back into shape and has one
Speaker 3: four Grand Slams. So the fact that Paul Badosa took
Speaker 3: her down in four sets was inspired by Rafa, And yeah,
Speaker 3: his plaque was really cool.
Speaker 1: One thing that is interesting about that Naomi Saka thing
Speaker 1: that I wanted to talk about earlier was she went
Speaker 1: into press and was very upset after the match and
Speaker 1: cried and you know, got emotional about her loss. And
Speaker 1: I thought it was really interesting that she said, you
Speaker 1: know something about Patrick mortaglus is Like she said, essentially,
Speaker 1: you know, here he was coaching like the greatest player
Speaker 1: of all time and now I can't win a match
Speaker 1: kind of thing. That was her mindset, and I.
Speaker 2: Was like, speaking of Serena essentially.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, honey, if you're worrying about what
Speaker 1: your coach is thinking and poor him because you're not
Speaker 1: winning matches, she said, I feel like I've let everybody down,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god. First of all, I
Speaker 1: would be like, I don't fucking matter if I'm the coach.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't fucking matter. There's got nothing to
Speaker 1: do with me. You're still paying me, maybe, Uh, like
Speaker 1: I love what I'm doing. You're doing great, Yeah, uh
Speaker 1: we're If I don't worry about me. Like the fact
Speaker 1: that she's even thinking that is razy, weird, like crazy,
Speaker 1: which is another reason why I thought it was a
Speaker 1: bad idea for her to hire him, because I think, honestly,
Speaker 1: the reason she hired him because he was Serena's coach
Speaker 1: and she admired and has looked up to Serena her
Speaker 1: whole life and wants to, you know, be like Serena
Speaker 1: and play like Serena and the whole thing. And to
Speaker 1: the fact that she was, you know, decided to bring
Speaker 1: him on. It was thinking that, oh, he's going to
Speaker 1: turn her into Serena. That's crazy. You have to think
Speaker 1: about yourself, like, don't worry about what everybody else is
Speaker 1: thinking about you, or you're letting everyone down. That was
Speaker 1: crazy for me to hear. I couldn't. I've never heard
Speaker 1: a player say, oh, I feel bad for my coach.
Speaker 1: I'm letting him down, Like what, No, that's weird.
Speaker 3: Raised some questions about like what kind of dynamic they
Speaker 3: must have that that's even part of her, because.
Speaker 1: It's not the fair to tell you losing her matches
Speaker 1: of ladies and thinking, god's yeah, yeah, she's thinking you
Speaker 1: might fire.
Speaker 2: Do you want to shout up. Naomi has done, like
Speaker 2: I said, a ton.
Speaker 3: Of work to get herself fit, to get herself on
Speaker 3: contention and to win a title on a natural so
Speaker 3: like it's a really amazing effort as a mother.
Speaker 1: Remember we were talking last week about how people can't
Speaker 1: slide and play. To watch these two today was hilarious
Speaker 1: because neither of them can slide, which I don't understand
Speaker 1: how Polar Badosa Spanish can't slide like it was.
Speaker 2: A grass court specialist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean you can understand that, but he
Speaker 1: could slide. So I'm watching these two belt the ship
Speaker 1: out of the ball and then neither of them can slide.
Speaker 1: I'm like, girls just hit a drop shot just to
Speaker 1: hit a drop shot. And one time, literally Paula Badosa
Speaker 1: hit a drop shot. It was one I heard from
Speaker 1: the commentators where she hasn't hit that much today, that
Speaker 1: shot much today, and Naomi literally fell over, like didn't
Speaker 1: even get she slipped. I mean, which happens to everybody, sure,
Speaker 1: but it was like ding.
Speaker 3: Ding ding ding.
Speaker 1: That was it four to three in the third set
Speaker 1: Way Service game. I was like, oh my god, how
Speaker 1: do you not know this? Like I don't understand coaches
Speaker 1: that are not telling the play is that, like you
Speaker 1: can't not going to hit Naomi off the court, but
Speaker 1: tell you what make a run or Badosa go back
Speaker 1: behind her? Like these girls can't slide. It's crazy to.
Speaker 2: Me, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: I just the last thing I'll say about Nami, because
Speaker 3: everything I was saying about her was complimentary. And listen,
Speaker 3: Paula has had her back issues, like it was sort
Speaker 3: of a little bit of.
Speaker 1: It was a shit first round.
Speaker 2: Let's just call it what.
Speaker 3: It was a shit first round for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 1: Like Naomi hasn't had good drawers at the French I
Speaker 1: mean she almost took out.
Speaker 2: She almost in the first round. Bananas, uh.
Speaker 1: That was the second round. I believe I.
Speaker 3: Want Naomi to have a better team of people around her.
Speaker 3: Well you know I mean that in always like she's
Speaker 3: had some family stuff, which you can't choose your family,
Speaker 3: so that's tough. She's had some This is the agent
Speaker 3: the thing she's like, come on, Naomi, like, keep keep
Speaker 3: a moving you are I kind of feel like would
Speaker 3: be better served by a better team.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean listen, and these are all choices that
Speaker 1: she has all to be decided at some point. But
Speaker 1: I just apparently she cares more about what her letting
Speaker 1: her coach and the team down, rather than worrying about
Speaker 1: her own self.
Speaker 3: So but I don't think we can call that an upset.
Speaker 2: That upset.
Speaker 3: We can, however, call Amminavara losing oh my god, whoa
Speaker 3: and then and one that's an upset. It certainly is
Speaker 3: an upset.
Speaker 2: But Claire, who knows how to say.
Speaker 1: And apparently I've heard, has a lot of upside to her.
Speaker 1: We'll see if she can quickly bounce back. But she
Speaker 1: doesn't have to bounce back from much. She lost one game.
Speaker 2: One game.
Speaker 1: I mean, Emma talk about maybe here's.
Speaker 2: A new coaching opportunity.
Speaker 1: Maybe she's been with her coach for a long time
Speaker 1: now a long time, and he's done an amazing job
Speaker 1: getting her to where she has gotten to in her
Speaker 1: career and her ranking.
Speaker 2: And her fitness is.
Speaker 1: But you know, sophomore year is the toughest year in tennis.
Speaker 1: You can come out and people start to figure out
Speaker 1: your strengths and weaknesses and start to know how to
Speaker 1: play you. Peyton Stern's also lost early in the first round.
Speaker 3: I kind of clearly thinking maybe Peyton Sterns, especially given
Speaker 3: the Madrid and rome she had, would be a hard position.
Speaker 2: But it's hard. I mean, Ava Lisa is a good
Speaker 2: dat played a great sing but great.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Peyton Sterns, I kind of expect to you
Speaker 3: expect her to win that match, win that match, certainly,
Speaker 3: I kind of expect her to like show up at
Speaker 3: least into the third or fourth round.
Speaker 1: Someone who looked pretty good, Uh eager one in sets
Speaker 1: three and three. Uh, she would. I can be a
Speaker 1: little bit tricky because she hits the hell out of
Speaker 1: the ball and is a good competitor.
Speaker 2: So that was good to say something. I didn't either
Speaker 2: have a very like walking but she's straight set some
Speaker 2: people who took care of business. Carlos took care of business.
Speaker 3: You know, you kind of expect the champions in the
Speaker 3: seeds to do that, and all four of them, I
Speaker 3: would say something like an eager Carlos and center are
Speaker 3: you know, certainly are well.
Speaker 2: You would imagine we're going.
Speaker 1: To see the guy that dreamt that he won the tournament.
Speaker 1: He will be out there tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Belief about the balls.
Speaker 1: Golf has a great drawl, Like if she doesn't make
Speaker 1: the final, I'll be surprised.
Speaker 2: Coco has a great Eager has.
Speaker 1: A named night Metra, including the possibil of playing after Panca,
Speaker 1: two of her nemesisssis and her biggest like literally kryptonite
Speaker 1: iss Penko Loubing looming in her third round. I kind
Speaker 1: of feel like she has a second round.
Speaker 3: She she does, she has to make some some valiant efforts.
Speaker 1: To get to the third Markina is in that section
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 3: Knowing Yelena as to Panco, I kind of feel like,
Speaker 3: if nothing else, she's just gonna stick around the third round,
Speaker 3: just so she could.
Speaker 1: Well. Let me tell you something, if Oster Penko ends
Speaker 1: up playing Eager sound tech, I will say that the
Speaker 1: first win will finally come for Eager. You think he's
Speaker 1: gonna win it, I do, because I think that I
Speaker 1: was gonna say. We've talked about this. She's been on
Speaker 1: every surface except clay, except in Madrid. Right, it was Madrid, Right,
Speaker 1: Madrid is altitude.
Speaker 2: Madrid is altitude.
Speaker 1: It is. It is very different than suits be hitters.
Speaker 1: It suits big ball strikers and big service and that
Speaker 1: is all the things that she does very very well.
Speaker 1: Ostapenko French Open is very different. It's a big court,
Speaker 1: center court. I mean, so is Madrid, but it's the
Speaker 1: court is slower and if it's if it's if it's
Speaker 1: at night, then there's no way. I think. I think,
Speaker 1: I think Eager wins that match. If it's a hot
Speaker 1: day in the middle of the day, there's a chance
Speaker 1: that oster Panko still was and we all know that
Speaker 1: ostar Penko can play. At the French Open, she won
Speaker 1: the tournament, so it's not like she doesn't love playing there,
Speaker 1: even though she should have really lost to Sam Stowe's
Speaker 1: in the third round. She broke her hand in that match. Sam.
Speaker 1: In the middle of the match, she was running around
Speaker 1: her forehand hitting backhands and here I thought, that's like
Speaker 1: you running around your back end. It's just not happening here.
Speaker 2: I thought it was Hallibs.
Speaker 1: Well coming earlier tournament. You can all thanks for Sam
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, so it was the one and only
Speaker 1: time she lost to her because she had a break
Speaker 1: broken hand.
Speaker 3: But anyway, that would fly to anybody with a broken hand.
Speaker 3: It's like, totally, it's a pretty good effort if you
Speaker 3: asked me.
Speaker 1: But anyway, but yeah, it's all started, it's all exciting.
Speaker 1: We're very pumped Novak going in winning a tournament certainly
Speaker 1: helps him because remember last week, I said, there's only
Speaker 1: two guys that I think you're gonna win. It's Sinner
Speaker 1: or Alchoraz. I do think that you have to put
Speaker 1: Novak in the conversation because we know, of course, he's
Speaker 1: the greatest player of all time. No one's won more
Speaker 1: Grand Slams than him. So if he gets deep into
Speaker 1: the tournament and he's healthy, that's what it comes down to.
Speaker 1: That's right, there's no question that he can still win
Speaker 1: this tournament.
Speaker 3: I actually kind of think Eager and Novak are similar
Speaker 3: in the sense that like if they play their way
Speaker 3: into forum.
Speaker 1: They're injured in different.
Speaker 3: Ways, yes, age and mind, yeah, but if they play
Speaker 3: their way into the tournament, which is why I actually
Speaker 3: thought like Egets showing up and kind of nonchalantly taking
Speaker 3: care of business was a really good indicator that like
Speaker 3: she's kind of maybe corrected chorus because she can have
Speaker 3: an off day against anybody. It's not like she needs
Speaker 3: to see somebody really scary in the first couple of rounds. No,
Speaker 3: it's more she's in control, and if she's in control,
Speaker 3: she's she's in goodstead. But I think for me, Novak
Speaker 3: and e are both similar that way, where it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: once they get a couple of matches, they can really
Speaker 3: play themselves into form.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's scary.
Speaker 3: I mean the thing with Novak, Ego should win this
Speaker 3: tournament in most circumstances. She's just had a scary twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Five, so she doesn't want a tournaments since last years
Speaker 1: whip and last.
Speaker 3: Year has not played on clay the way that you
Speaker 3: would expect her to into this tournament.
Speaker 2: Novak, I kind of.
Speaker 3: Feel like he's a total wildcard to me right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. Does he no one's talking about him
Speaker 1: take out.
Speaker 3: I think he takes out as Verev. I think he
Speaker 3: takes out a you know, a second tier player. Does
Speaker 3: he take out a Carger Loos or a Jan I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's the what he does there. He was
Speaker 1: his greatest This will be his greatest achievement. Agree for sure,
Speaker 1: Agree and he will twilight. I swear on the laft
Speaker 1: what he should do it. He should just literally put
Speaker 1: the racket on the ground and do what Uga did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just say retired.
Speaker 3: Twenty five piece out slam piece yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I know he thinks he can still win
Speaker 1: Wimbledon because clearly's made the final. There are now two
Speaker 1: years in a row and lost to Carlos. But it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just feel like man.
Speaker 2: Cool totally.
Speaker 1: Just put the rackets, the record right on the ground,
Speaker 1: like Google, love everybody. Yeah, I'm done, peace out on
Speaker 1: that note, Gus, thanks for Johnny, anything else anything? Oh
Speaker 1: you know what I want to add. Somebody kept asking
Speaker 1: me this on Twitter. Does it help that they whack
Speaker 1: their shoes on clay? Yes? And my answer to that
Speaker 1: is yes. So what happens is on grass you have
Speaker 1: the little nib things on the bottom of the shoes
Speaker 1: that help you grab the grass right, and on clay
Speaker 1: you have herring bone. So it's like the old In Australia,
Speaker 1: we had all Dunlop volleys, which which were great for
Speaker 1: playing on clay or onto car or anything, but they
Speaker 1: had zero zero cushion in them, so they were like
Speaker 1: they were like wearing those you know, the shoes that
Speaker 1: you wear into the water. That's what it was like
Speaker 1: playing on it with Dunlop volleys. But they're a herring bone.
Speaker 1: So the herring bone helps you slide and grip, but
Speaker 1: allows you to slide.
Speaker 3: To translate that into American English, it is a tire tread.
Speaker 1: Now it's not a t.
Speaker 3: If you are on clay, you have a V shaped
Speaker 3: tire tread.
Speaker 1: You know what it is. Go look at rough ill
Speaker 1: the dolls you can really like. Yeah, if you want
Speaker 1: to know what I'm talking about, go look at the
Speaker 1: park and you'll see like a like an S curved
Speaker 1: on the bottom. It allows you to slide on clay,
Speaker 1: but it allows you to have a little bit of
Speaker 1: grip on a hard court. You'll see just you know,
Speaker 1: it's very it's less herring bone because you want to
Speaker 1: have it be thicker and sustained to be able to
Speaker 1: play on a hard court.
Speaker 2: That's right, right, So, because.
Speaker 1: You'll tear up if you walk clay court shoes on
Speaker 1: a hard court, for example, they would be torn up
Speaker 1: in a best of five in like three sets.
Speaker 3: That's in the clach shoe category. The tread grips the
Speaker 3: court much like a tire to close the road. And
Speaker 3: because of the fact that it grips so much, so
Speaker 3: much gets stuck up in it and you need to
Speaker 3: hit the clean so you can retain the mobility on
Speaker 3: the court.
Speaker 2: So it's also kind of fun and coore like we
Speaker 2: don't have it is.
Speaker 1: But I mean, honestly, that's the only reason why you
Speaker 1: do it, because you don't see them doing it on
Speaker 1: hard court. You know, some players do because it's like
Speaker 1: a habit. But the reason you do it is because
Speaker 1: think about it. If you literally, like Caitlin saying, like,
Speaker 1: if you drive your car through mud, it's got mud
Speaker 1: up in the the treads in the tread and so
Speaker 1: if you were to go and just try and slide again,
Speaker 1: you couldn't. It wouldn't grip because you're and and frankly,
Speaker 1: it makes your shoe a little bit heavier because the
Speaker 1: player's stuck in there. So that's why you'll see players
Speaker 1: hit their shoe all the time to get the clay
Speaker 1: out of their shoe. So another little thing that they
Speaker 1: do too is you see them always like you know,
Speaker 1: scooting their foot over the court and sort of like
Speaker 1: doing a.
Speaker 2: Little bit of cleaning off alone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit of a cleaning. They're trying to
Speaker 1: smoo booth down the area so it stops bad bounces
Speaker 1: because that happens on clay all the time. Especially in
Speaker 1: the middle of the court. You'll see a player always
Speaker 1: like scoot down a little bad mark or something, because
Speaker 1: if you think about sliding on clay, it leaves a
Speaker 1: little ridge of clay on the court. So you want
Speaker 1: that to be gone because if a ball hits that,
Speaker 1: it bounces funny. So that's just all little things on clay,
Speaker 1: which is why our sport is the greatest sport in
Speaker 1: the world, because I mean, what the fuck who does
Speaker 1: their own cleaning? Right?
Speaker 2: It's great? Yeah, anyway, I can't agree with you.
Speaker 1: All right, So that on that note, check out what
Speaker 1: happens on the court, watch the players hit their shoes,
Speaker 1: watch them clean the court.
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