WEBVTT - Le French 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:04.359 Okay, Hi, everybody, welcome to the Renee Stubs Tennis Podcast. 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:06.080 We are in New York City. We're not in my 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:08.080 usual spot, but we are in a beautiful spot. We 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:11.240 have a lovely view and Caitlin's had a couple of sidecars. 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:13.040 Let's see what happens in the bar. 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:18.160 Are rare occasion, but you know, tosty Memorial Day we did. 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:18.639 Who serve? 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:21.880 We did? That's right, Happy Memorial Day to everyone who 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:24.800 served and is serving. And of course we also bumped 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:26.640 into a little common downstairs in the bar. 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:29.440 You know, if you're in the mix like we are. Yeah, 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:31.760 sometimes you know, you just have some slebrity account. 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:32.519 With Jennifer Hudson. 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:35.320 Little common little you know, connect the darts, connect. 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.360 The dice they were hapving. Maybe a sidecar as. 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:38.720 Well, could be could? 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.120 I mean, we are not in Paris, we are not 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.360 sadly sadly, but we're in New York City. 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:45.280 We do have to talk about, of course, what happened 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:47.720 last week before we get to the French Open and 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.599 what's going on there with all the shenanigans. You were, 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:53.040 of course away for the weekend. I was in Indiana 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.480 doing my you know, love of the liberty. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:58.720 Rough life getting to fly with celebrity out to their games. 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.240 You know on the plane, do they have a stencil 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:02.080 on the side. 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.240 No, No, stencil is just all Delta, which, by the way, 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.640 thank you Delta because they have done an amazing job 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:10.640 giving the charter flights to the w NBA players. But no, Caitlin, 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:12.360 you were busy on the weekend. I was busy on 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.160 the weekend, which we were a bit late getting this out, 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.720 but we do have to talk about Novak Djokovic. He 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:20.960 joins a very very very special group of one hundred 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.120 plus titles on the A Top two where he joins 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:30.200 of course Raja Rafa and Jimmy Connors. Yes, people remember 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:32.959 that guy. That guy won so many tennis matches and 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:34.480 nine titles. 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:39.520 He won so many tennis matches, singles, Grand Slams, played 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.399 eight hundred. Yeah, I mean, this guy, we forget about 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:44.560 him a little bit, and I feel like, you know, 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:49.520 we can get into why, but just results themselves, they're 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:50.400 sort of staggering. 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:52.520 Yeah, it is staggering. And the staggering part is that 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:54.680 he didn't win more Grand Slams. You know, when you 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:56.600 think about how many totonomous he won, he didn't win 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:58.280 more Grand Slams, but at the same time, you know, 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.800 he was going up against John McEnroe, and you know 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.720 Yvonne Landell and Matt's v Landa and all these great 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:05.960 champions from the past, and he was a little volatile, 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.840 but clearly he got the job done at regular autonomous 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:10.240 in fact that he has one hundred and nine. 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:15.000 Yeah, Jimmy Caunors was kind of like our nick curious well, 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:15.799 I mean, but. 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:18.600 Maybe a little bit of as far as the personality is. 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.360 But when we're talking about work ethic, no one worked 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:22.480 harder than Jimmy Connors. 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.160 And he had a mom who made sure that he 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:26.200 did not miss a tournament. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:28.120 I said, serve, I mean. 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:31.000 Kid, this guy wanted to win. He wanted to win. 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.120 Yeah, Jimmy Canors is somebody we don't actually talk very 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:35.239 much about, which is why I played will team tennis 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:35.640 with him once. 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:40.480 What was he like? Interesting cat? You know, he would 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.600 like to have a side cow or two with us. 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:43.919 I believe, let's put it that way. 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.320 I the last I heard of Jimmy Connors is you 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:51.720 could buy a couple's massage with Jimmy Connors. 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.480 All of the things that I don't surprise me. Whatsover? 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:56.560 What do I want to do that? 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:57.000 I don't know. 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.240 But then you get a massage here in Florida, you 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.440 get like, I don't know to hang out with Jim mccarnter's. 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.680 Sometimes there's you know, there's some speries I would want 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:05.960 to do that. I don't know where. You just keep 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.440 them to yourselves. I'm going to keep my Jimmy Connor 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.760 stories to myself. We'll look forward to them because he's fun. 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:13.600 I'll tell you that. 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:18.600 Sure. So going back to Novak, yeah, tatle number one hundred. 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.360 Obviously he now has the record for Grand Slams, but 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:23.480 the tatos themselves not bad and. 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.560 A title he should not have won. No, I mean 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:29.480 he was down should Jube is playing out of his mind. 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:31.480 He's serving out of his mind. He has not lost 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.639 his serve the whole match. He gets up four to 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:36.080 three in the third, he plays a great point. He 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.440 has a complete sitter forehand. Like when I say sitter, 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.280 Novak is literally falling over himself on the left side 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.840 of the court, running to a backhand who becomes people 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.440 on the perfect inside out foehand, which you know I love. 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.080 Don't come in across court fourhand people, if you do 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:52.520 cover the cross court, that's just my golden rule in tennis. 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.760 He comes in on the perfect shot, he has an 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.480 absolute sitter, and he just stinks it into the net. 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.520 And you could just tell because Herbie is like a 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.080 five year old in a fifty year old buddy. He 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:05.720 looks like someone has just stolen his blanket, like his 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:09.640 favorite blanket. He just was like, I'm not gonna beat Novak. 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.000 I haven't beaten him once and I'm not going to 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.520 do it today. It was like, what the hell? It 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.440 was such an easy point, and I promise you, I 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:19.240 really do believe if he wins that point, he wins 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.880 the match. Yeah, because he was serving Novak off the court. 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.000 Novak couldn't do anything. He broke him early in the 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.799 first game of the third set, and he was holding 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:28.680 serve like no big deal. And then when you miss 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:30.400 a shot like that, you go that's when all the 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:33.640 negative things hit your brain, like a fuck, maybe I 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:35.920 won't beat this guy. Oh my god, I can't believe 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.120 I missed that shot. And then he didn't get any 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.159 first service in hard out right now, I should have 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.839 been up thirty love, you know, Instead he was down, 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.400 and then on the game point, Novak played a typical 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.600 Novak Djokovic game point where he ran and hustled down 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:52.320 this one ball and hit a skyrocketing lob into the 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.240 air that was like a ranch of Sanchez back in 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:57.520 the early nineties that landed one foot inside both sideline 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:00.880 and baseline, and you know, he gets himself back into 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:04.320 this point miraculously, and then he wins the point ye 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.719 and it's like four all, and you're just like it's over. 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.159 It's over, even to the point that really matter what 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.760 the score is at that point, it's over. 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:15.640 Spiritually momentum, the fact that he's never beaten Novak, the 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.159 fact that he actually knows and cannot probably get that 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.080 fullhand out of his brain. And then all of a 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.719 sudden he wins in the tiebreak, and Novak just walks 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.279 to the net. He doesn't really celebrate, and because I 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.920 think he feels sorry for he's like the nicest guy 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.200 in the world, and he walks the net, literally shakes 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:33.120 hands with him and says sorry, man, man. 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.000 It's just like one of my favorite facts of this 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:39.719 match is the first title that Novak cho has ever won, 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:41.320 like twenty years ago, I. 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:42.360 Think it was two thousand and five. 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:47.279 Two and six was against Nico Massu. Nico Massu maybe 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.839 you know him as having his own pro career. Maybe 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.520 you know him because he was Dominic teams coach for 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.440 a really long time. But now he is coaching who 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:58.520 be her coach? Now he is in the stands watching 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:00.679 the I don't want to call it a end because 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.040 we don't know how many more tournaments Novak Djokovic is 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.599 gonna play. But being there for the first because he 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:07.400 was on a losing sad and being there for the 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:08.800 one hundredth on the. 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:10.919 Losing side, that's crazy. 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:12.119 It sort of feels nuts. 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:13.200 That's a good little nuggy. 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:17.200 It's like a little sort of tennis lorener that is classic. 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.320 And the fact that Andy Murray wasn't there as a coach. 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:22.560 Should we talk about the fact that Andy Murray got 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:23.760 I don't want to say fired, but. 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.680 They probably both realized that it wasn't working for the 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.320 either of them or maybe nuts. I don't know. I 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.320 know it didn't make sense at all, But look, Novak's 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.840 done that stuff. Look he bought bars becka On, he. 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.880 Bought you know, he's brought Andreas Andrea agacy. 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.800 He's done this. You know, he went back. I saw 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:43.680 do some Vemic was back with him. He was a 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:45.600 former player, one of my old team tennis. 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.720 Yeah, a lovely, lovely guy. 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:51.119 Maybe they've been friends forever. They're about the same age, 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.600 and I think that maybe dou Son's a little bit older. 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:55.840 But it's just like it was interesting to see him 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.880 in the box, and there's that familiarity of having someone 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.760 like adu Son who just like very non judgmental, very positive. 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.000 So he probably needs somebody like that in his corner 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:07.719 right now, who speaks serbian as well. 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.360 I always thought it was so weird because Andy Murray, 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.520 to me, did the one thing that Novak was already 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.440 really great at, which is like being tenacious and like never. 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.240 Letting go and being a little crusty and kind of. 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:23.120 Being crusty, like he doesn't need help doing that. He's 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.200 already that and Andy was great at that, but Novak 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.720 was maybe better. So it's kind of like what could 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:33.000 Andy great champion? No slate intended, but what could he 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:33.880 bring to the box? 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.280 Yeah, well, I mean you could say that about anybody really, 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.320 you know, who's going to come into the to the 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:41.200 player box of Novak Djokovic. 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:41.720 And any more than him. 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:46.080 So there's no there's no greater player than him. The 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.240 only person that could sit in that box and even 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.440 remotely have the same thought process is Roger Ruff and 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.280 Serena like really, or Jimmy Connors. 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.480 Jimmy Connor's back out there, He's one, He's one return. 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:59.280 Of Jimmy's done his fair share of coaching. 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:01.240 Well we are, So what happened with Andy Roddick and 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:05.400 Jimmy Connors didn't coach Maria for a hot minute. 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:07.120 Yeah, I remember hearing her speak. 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.080 We were actually doing a racket event with Evan on 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.800 a boat and she was like, you know, a good 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.640 executive because she was asking answering a question about like, hey, 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:20.600 you know, how do you translate tennis skills into entrepreneurial skills? 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:22.880 Because Maria sort of famously after her career had been 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:26.600 like in the business world, yep, and Maria Andrea Pekovich, 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.880 our cultural attest, was interviewing her and said, you know, 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:31.280 she asked her this question and Maria was like, you know, 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:35.520 the entrepreneurial skill I most have taken from tennis. 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:38.720 Is to know when to call it interesting. For example, 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.080 it's called your lane kind. 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:42.840 Of and like Jimmy Connors was my coach, and I 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:46.160 could tell immediately it wasn't gonna work out. So I 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.240 called it and I was kind of like, oh, interesting, 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:49.040 Like that's. 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.920 Got a whole follow up. Yeah, can we get Jimmy 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:52.600 Connors in the pod? 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.719 Yeah? Sure, I mean he wanted to come on to 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:58.240 my show and Amazon, but we had to keep rescheduling it. 0:08:58.440 --> 0:08:59.040 Not because of me. 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.200 Should we do it? Called that massage first and then. 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:05.040 Get a couple's massage going there with Jimmy. I just 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:07.600 you know, stories sometimes when you play World Team Tennis, 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:11.560 those stories will always stay with you because that's like, 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:15.080 now I know why wy why NBA players and like 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:16.599 players that are on the road all the time, W 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.000 NBA whatever, and they travel together always as a team, 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:21.679 why they get into up to no good? 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:24.080 Because it is there. 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.920 I mean, listen, let's put it this way. I loved 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.320 my time at World Team Tennis. I did. I didn't 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.640 hook up, but there was a lot that did. Okay, 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.600 some marriages came out of World Team Tennis, some divorces 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:39.319 came out of World Team Tennis. What else? That's all 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:42.760 I can tell you, Okay, A lot of fun. I 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.760 love World Team Tennis as ever for their memoir. Okay, 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.600 so let's talk a little bit about also Rebakina. She 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:52.040 won a tournament leading into Paris, barely got out of 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.440 her first round though. That's the one thing about playing 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:57.040 well and doing you know, winning a tournament the week before, 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:58.400 it's really hard to back it up in a day 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:01.400 or two. Completely different app sphere of New Paris compared 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:05.280 to wherever you were Geneva, Strasburg in Strasbourg, very different 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:08.800 to Paris. But she got through a first round, which 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:13.280 is big. But she thanks her her absent coach from 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.480 the player's box, but clearly in her ear twenty four 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:15.800 to seven. 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:17.600 Stay, yeah, yeah, it's trajeict. 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.839 Just god, I don't have Alena Rubb back in and 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:22.680 winning a lot of tournament's unclay. 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:27.000 Well, Strasbourg is quite slippery, so it really does lend 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:30.679 itself to somebody who plays quite big serving, big ball striking. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:31.679 So it's more grass. 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.920 It's no, it's not grass, but it's just it's just 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.240 hard to get the footing right and it tends to 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:41.040 not be muddy or slow. It's quite a fun because 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.400 it's quite hot down in the south of France, you know, 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.040 so it does get it's a it's a beautiful place 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:47.760 to go. I don't know if anyone has never been. 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:51.720 Have you ever been to Strasburg. It is gorgeous, just gorgeous. 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:54.800 So so yeah, but having to back it up in 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.880 a day quickly and barely getting through her first round, 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:00.440 that would be a big relief for her because there 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:01.960 was some place. I do want to give a bit 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.920 of a shout out to Maya Joint, the Aussie who 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.400 first Australian to win tournament since Ashbarty. Of course one 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.560 was that Robert Yes, so I. 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:13.000 Want to be super I watched her play one of 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:16.200 the earlier round matches in yeah, great kid, should beat 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:20.319 on a conye yes, uh, And I was really impressed. 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.160 She looks like she was rounding in a form my joint. 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.439 Shout out, yeah, shout out. Sadly, she lost in the 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:25.880 first round of the French which is why it's so 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:28.280 hard to back it up, but lost to another Australian 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.640 Inla Tommy Janovich. So that was a bit of a 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:36.280 tough first round for Maya. But well done, kiddo. That's 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.120 a that's an amazing effort to win your first w 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.440 T a title. Someone who didn't win a title leading 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:44.520 into Paris is a guy that thinks he's going to 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:48.239 win the French Open because he dreamed it. Our friend 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:54.080 Alex Zverev, or is it Sasha Sasha Sasha his brother. 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:56.600 The brother. 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:02.439 Aka Alex is the one. You're having a senior moment, then, 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.560 I like vision boarding your wins. 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:08.520 I'm just trying to say something positive. 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.360 I cannot believe he actually came and said that, like, 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.080 even if you dreamt that, keep that to yourself. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:17.640 So he last Hamburg, his hometown, complaining about the weather, 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:21.160 complaining about the food, complaining about the balls, complaining It's like, 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:24.040 come on, dude, like just not up, like shut. 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.439 Complaining about the balls and every he complains. He complained 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:29.080 about the balls and complain about. 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:31.040 The rolls and rum. But it's just like, come on, bro, 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:37.839 like just take it easy, just yeah, just let your rackety. 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:40.439 In German halty clapper, which means basically shut a zip it. 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.760 It's STEFFI Graff told me that one I wonder why 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.680 helty clapper. She would tell me that on the court, 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:46.720 just zip it. 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.720 I mean, he is the what four seed three seeds? 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:51.880 Well, thank God, he's not the second seed, because remember 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:53.880 I was very upset about that happening, and he's not. 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:55.800 He is in the I think, I don't know what 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:56.720 he is, but he's not two. 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:58.640 And that's all that matters because that means that the 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:02.160 Alchoriz is too the top half well, because it just 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.679 means that Karaz and Sinner will not be in the 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:05.880 same half, which I know. 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:09.240 So if you are three or four seeds, you get 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:10.720 pulled out of the hat to be in the top 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:12.840 or the bottom and over the last it feels like 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:16.960 century of Grand slams, Sinner and Aucraz have been in 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:18.000 the same half. 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.040 And they should, really, given the set of men centers 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:22.520 be playing, and course they should be the you know, 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.320 the forces they did end up doing in Rome. 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:24.839 That's right. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:28.520 The foreseed, Taylor Swift or as I've been calling him, 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.079 clear the Swift, hasn't that been backing it up? 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:31.480 Clearly? 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.960 He is now officially not Klayler. No, he is going 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:39.840 to be Grasser maybe sure, definitely not clay He has 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.120 not played well. But I did mention last week on 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.440 the pod that I think and this is just a 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.040 this is just an open ended sort of question and 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:51.920 conversation about coaching and about a player. At some point, 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.079 I do feel and I did. I expressed this last week, 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.360 and it's this is nothing against Mike Russell at all. 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.400 I think he's he's a great coach, and I think 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:05.040 it's an amazing with Taylor. But I think that there's 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.840 a point where you've run your race with them, You've 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.640 gotten to the end of the line, and you take 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.240 you got to let the rope go. And I think 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:16.400 that maybe it's a new he needs a new vice 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:20.160 and he's here, maybe Andy Murray, but like I think 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.440 Taylor to take that next step. And actually, now that 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.920 I say that that's not a bad idea, that's but 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.240 I do think that Taylor wants to take the next step. 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:31.400 He wants to be He's gotten to you know, four 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.080 in the world. He's gotten to a Grand Slam final 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:36.240 thanks to Mike Russell, thanks to all the work that 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.560 he's done. But maybe, and I know that Paul Anacon 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:40.880 is still part of I don't even know where he 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.480 is in the situation, but I do think that it's 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.960 time to have somebody maybe that comes in that gives 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:49.000 him a new voice and gives him a new perspective 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:50.760 on how to get to the end of a Grand 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.120 Slam and to win it, because I do think he 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.560 has the capability of doing that. Do you think that 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.680 he needs to improve his volleys if he wants to 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:00.880 win a Grand Slam? I just I will believe that 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:05.440 until the day that I can't talk, which is hopefully 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:07.760 until the day I die. But I do think that 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.120 that little added extra in his game will help him 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:13.360 win a Grand Slam, possibly the US Open, maybe Wimbledon, 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.520 But until then, I don't see him winning a Grand Slam. 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.000 So and again I want to stress this is not 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:22.480 a slight on Michael at all. He will do a 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.240 great job with whoever he picks up next as a coach. 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.560 But I do think that Taylor is really struggling now, 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.320 and I think that it's time for a new voice 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:29.920 in his head. 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.320 Something I think a lot about, which is sort of unrelated, 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.600 but I think actually kind of speaks to this, is 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.520 like I think a lot about media and people who 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.360 run companies, magazines, whatever. 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:41.160 Just bear with me. 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.320 At a certain point, it's like you've said all you 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.360 have to say, You've put out all you have to do, Like, 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:48.880 let's keep it moving and I think when it comes 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:50.560 to coaching, it's kind of similar, which is like, you've 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:52.200 expressed everything you've taught. 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.680 The player, you know. I think there is a little 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:55.200 bit of an expert. 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:56.680 You're not going to come up with new shit as 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:58.880 a coach five years later. You're just not. I mean 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:02.320 you may but good, good, good for you if you do. 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.920 But it's very rare, which is why Darren Kahle says, 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:06.720 you know, really the shelf life of a great coach 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.680 should be four or five years, because that's when you've 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:10.840 gotten all of your information out. That's when you should 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.840 have known the player as their best and at their worst, 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:15.960 and how to make them better and how to make 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.680 how to stop them from declining. And if you can't, 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:20.840 you can't keep telling them the same thing. 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:21.360 That's right. 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:23.520 So and it's just like a parent apparently be like, 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.440 oh my god, I can't believe I've been telling how 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:27.480 to do that for a year and you told her 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.040 one time and she did it, and I was like yeah, 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.760 Because I'm not a parent, it's the same thing. It's 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:33.640 like the same thing coming from the same coach. It's 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:36.480 like fuck, I know. And then some other person could 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:38.720 come along say sort of the same thing but in 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.880 a different way, and they go, oh, I get it, and. 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:42.640 You Andy Murray, what are you doing next? 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.200 Andy Murray? What are you doing next? One thing I 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.280 do want to talk about before we get to even 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:51.240 what's going on at the French can we talk about 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:58.080 the Nike outfits? Whoof? Woof? What I mean? Listen? They 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:04.320 nobody does advertising commercials better than Nike when it comes 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:07.160 to like someone winning a Grand Slam or you know, 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.720 the Liberty winning last year with Sabrina you rescue, and like, 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.120 there's certain things that they just you just go fuck. 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:17.200 Nike never misses this stuff. Sometimes once or twice they 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:22.400 have missed, but overall they're pretty great. A designs the 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:23.040 hell I doing? 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:26.439 But when Anne Center looks like a crem dement that 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.640 you order it like an old timy bar. 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:32.560 I mean, Jesus what Carlos. 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.560 Carlos looks like he's just like, hey, dad, can I 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:36.679 wear your shirt today? And he's just like going out 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:38.680