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Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome to a Friday edition of One Hills Live.

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker, Chris Brown review, and we are on remote.

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Speaker 2: We are both coming to you from Pittsburgh as we

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Speaker 2: are in separate rooms, but together on the show in

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Speaker 2: a very unique way, getting ready for tomorrow's preseason game

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Speaker 2: number two. Bill's Steelers here in the Steel City, and

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Speaker 2: it is an obl Friday fan mailbag. So any and

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Speaker 2: all questions fire him at us as we get set to,

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Speaker 2: you know, kind of see what happens here with respect

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Speaker 2: to starters playing time. We'll find out more about that

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Speaker 2: in the second hour of the show, when that news

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Speaker 2: will be put out there for all to see. So

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Speaker 2: we'll have that for you here at that time, and

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Speaker 2: we'll go around the NFL here shortly. But Steve, we

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Speaker 2: should probably talk a little bit about the joint practice yesterday,

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Speaker 2: at least some of the information we have gathered on it. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: we had Maddy glab Our, Bill's reporter at the top

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Speaker 2: of the show yesterday live from the practice, but then

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Speaker 2: the practice ensued thereafter, and from what I have seen

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Speaker 2: and read and herd it was pretty spirited. I think

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Speaker 2: they got what they wanted out of it, and by

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Speaker 2: all accounts, the first team offense did quite well, particularly

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Speaker 2: in a red zone session in eleven on eleven and

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Speaker 2: Dalton Kincaid and Khalil Shakir probably the two biggest playmakers

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Speaker 2: during that session.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it looked like it seemed like they got what

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Speaker 3: they were wanting out of it. They they of course,

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Speaker 3: they wanted to come out and play a little better

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Speaker 3: than they practiced, a little better than they played against

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Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears. I think McDermott was happy with the

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Speaker 3: physicality and the intensity. I think all that stuff that

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Speaker 3: you know, we as fans and people covering the team

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Speaker 3: were looking for, and I think they were really happy

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Speaker 3: with it. I think their offense looked better, particularly as

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Speaker 3: you said, in that red zone period. I think it

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Speaker 3: gives us a little comfort when all of us are

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Speaker 3: looking for certain guys to be a big part of

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Speaker 3: the offense and we see a practice where they're a

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Speaker 3: big part of that practice, and it makes us feel

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Speaker 3: like everything's on schedule a lot. That was I think

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Speaker 3: probably as good a practice as they've had in a while,

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Speaker 3: particularly against a good football team like the Steelers. In

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Speaker 3: an atmosphere that's unique, unlike the training camp had been

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Speaker 3: going through for the last two and a half three weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was a welcome change for the players

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Speaker 2: in the practice setting, and I think by all accounts,

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Speaker 2: the physicality that coach McDermott referenced was maybe not up

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Speaker 2: to snuff in the first preseason game, by the sound

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Speaker 2: of it, was there and present for the Bills roster

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Speaker 2: yesterday in that setting. And you know, two days later

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Speaker 2: they're going to play this team again in a real game,

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Speaker 2: albeit preseason. So yeah, it's I'm kind of interested. I know,

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Speaker 2: we've been interested all week to see how the playing

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Speaker 2: time will shake out. Knowing that everybody that was healthy

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Speaker 2: pretty much went in the practice session yesterday with the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: how does that factor into playing time decisions on Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: We'll wait and see when we get to the second

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Speaker 2: hour of the show, will kind of have some definitive

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Speaker 2: news on that front with respect to starters.

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Speaker 3: Right, And you got to expect this. It's getting down

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Speaker 3: to the point where this last preseason game, and this

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Speaker 3: one here in Pittsburgh's the only road game they've got

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Speaker 3: in the preseason. They want to find out well, they

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Speaker 3: want to see changes from last week. They want to

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Speaker 3: see young players step up. They want to see veteran

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Speaker 3: players build on what they've done, particularly the guys who

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Speaker 3: have not been here, They want to see them get

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Speaker 3: a little bit better handle on what they're doing. The

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Speaker 3: young players, they want to see them be even more comfortable.

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Speaker 3: You got to admit, you got to know, Brownie, these

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Speaker 3: players they're taken at this point now, even the new

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Speaker 3: defense or the offense, whichever they're going through, and sat

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Speaker 3: through hours of meetings to the point you've got to

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Speaker 3: start seeing some a comfort level with where they are

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Speaker 3: in their development, or the way they play, the way

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Speaker 3: they attack the other team. You know, the whole thing

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Speaker 3: needs to start being a lot different now. In the

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Speaker 3: second preseason.

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Speaker 2: Game, Yeah, there was some news after we were off

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Speaker 2: the air yesterday. Chase Claypool's time with the Bills has

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Speaker 2: effectively come to an end. He was placed on injured reserve,

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Speaker 2: which if you are placed on injured reserve prior to

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Speaker 2: the final cut to fifty three, your season is effectively

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Speaker 2: over with the team you are with. You can't return

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Speaker 2: or for that season. So knowing that and knowing it's

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Speaker 2: a toe injury, Chase Claypool and his representatives reached an

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Speaker 2: injury settlement with the Bills, which basically releases him from

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Speaker 2: with another club when in fact he is healthy. But

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't. I'm not gonna throw stones at

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Speaker 2: Chase Claypool. But the history was the history, and you

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Speaker 2: said it back when the signing happened. This was a

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Speaker 2: personality test and whether or not Chase Claypool was going

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Speaker 2: to change what is the prevailing narrative on his NFL career,

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Speaker 2: which is he does not do all of the things

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Speaker 2: you need a wide receiver of his ability to carry

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Speaker 2: out in a football game on a consistent basis. He

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Speaker 2: had to prove that narrative wrong. And a toe injury

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Speaker 2: that was labeled day to day when it happened, lasted

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Speaker 2: two weeks and he never got back on the field

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Speaker 2: after about two days of training camp.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it was a problem. Certainly, the guy was

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Speaker 3: in a deep room of guys who had every bit

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Speaker 3: the same chance he did of making the team. It

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Speaker 3: was a clean slate and a guy with his size

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Speaker 3: He did not, and he did a couple of things,

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Speaker 3: no question. He had some moments in the short time

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Speaker 3: of training camp that he took part, but it just

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Speaker 3: wasn't enough and it was nowhere near what the Bills

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Speaker 3: were thinking he had to give. And that was the

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Speaker 3: narrative about his career. There were time there were things

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Speaker 3: on film where he was did not seem engaged in

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Speaker 3: football game, and that was the reason. In a very

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Speaker 3: short time, the Bills were his fourth football team that

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Speaker 3: he played for, and that in and of itself TuS

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Speaker 3: all you need to know now.

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Speaker 2: So he is no longer a part of the equation

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Speaker 2: in any way for the Bills. At the receiver position,

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Speaker 2: there'll be some guys on Saturday night jockeying for what

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Speaker 2: to even keep six receivers, whether or not Zach Davidson

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Speaker 2: about making the decisions difficult in terms of the numbers

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Speaker 2: kept a tight end as opposed to the numbers kept

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Speaker 2: at receiver. That remains to be seen, and he'll continue

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Speaker 2: to try to lobby for a roster spot as well,

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Speaker 2: and we'll have I think a lot of people's eyes

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Speaker 2: are going to be glued to Davidson at the tight

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Speaker 2: to see if someone emerges and stakes a claim and says, hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm the guy, let's go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where all these guys are. I don't think

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Speaker 3: anybody there may be Well, let's put it this way.

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Speaker 3: If there's ninety guys, if you're taking one hundred percent

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Speaker 3: of the guys, I'll bet maybe thirty are signed, sealed

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Speaker 3: and delivered as members of this roster. I think there's

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Speaker 3: a large portion of this roster that still has yet

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Speaker 3: to be solidified. There may be more than them, maybe

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Speaker 3: thirty five, but that's fifty three. I think there's at

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Speaker 3: least twenty guys, twenty positions and roles on this team

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Speaker 3: that have not been filled yet that they haven't decided on. Who.

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Speaker 3: I think they liked the group they have to choose from,

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Speaker 3: that's probably going to be outside. Like I said, there's

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Speaker 2: I would say the final note from the joint practices

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Speaker 2: that we should pass along was that Dorian Williams was

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Speaker 2: probably one of the chief contributors in setting the tone

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Speaker 2: from a physical standpoint. I think people do know he

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Speaker 2: plays a physical brand and that's pretty important at the

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Speaker 2: linebacker position. But you know that that was something that

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Speaker 2: coach McDermott was seeking from his team coming out of

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Speaker 2: the preseason opener and in the joint practice setting, Williams

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Speaker 2: was noticeable in terms of making hits, tackles and making

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Speaker 2: the Steelers offensive players feel him so to speak.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you know, we we had our

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Speaker 3: production meeting with Sean McDermott today and he said, you know,

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Speaker 3: he was he loved the way Dorian Williams was, you know,

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Speaker 3: accepting this training camp and his role in this training camp.

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Speaker 3: He was in an extremely simple system at TWU Lane.

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Speaker 3: The Bill system is anything but simple, and it's taken

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Speaker 3: some time, but more and more, and like I said,

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Speaker 3: after the hundreds of reps and he got maybe a

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Speaker 3: thousand reps last year, he's starting to develop the mindset

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Speaker 3: to get himself in a position or to take a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the real challenge for him going forward

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Speaker 2: is proving that he has made the requisite improvements in

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Speaker 2: the coverage part of the game. When he's going forward

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Speaker 2: and he can put it in drive, he makes a difference.

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Speaker 2: You see him, You notice him. He makes plays when

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Speaker 2: he has to go in reverse and drop into coverage

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Speaker 2: and it's a zone coverage assignment, not a man coverage assignment.

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Speaker 2: That's when I think he is even now maybe still

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Speaker 2: not at a place where he wants to be in

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Speaker 2: terms of consistency with his game and reading where the

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Speaker 2: his assignments are concerned, where he can anticipate and go

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Speaker 2: going forward. If he wants to be a three down

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Speaker 2: area of his game where he's going to need to

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Speaker 2: shine to convince the coaching staff, Hey, you know what,

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Speaker 2: we don't have to piece mail Matt Mulonald's role in

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Speaker 2: this defense. We can get it all to Dorian Williams.

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Speaker 2: He's good to go.

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Speaker 3: That's right, because until that happens, it's going to be

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Speaker 3: a group effort to replace Matt Milano. But you know

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Speaker 3: we've seen it from the Bills before, most notably under

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Speaker 3: Leslie Fraser. They'd love to have eleven guys they can

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Speaker 3: when they want to rotate the four defensive line when

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Speaker 3: they want to. Everybody else kind of has a spot

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Speaker 3: and they keep it. I don't think they're there with

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Speaker 3: a Matt Milano injury. I don't think they're there right now.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they believe they're there. I think they're

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Speaker 3: going to have to change personnel, and that doesn't mismean

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Speaker 3: the linebackers. It means linebackers and dbs. How many of

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Speaker 3: each they're going to put out there, And I think

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Speaker 3: that's going to change and rotate more with the absence

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Speaker 3: of Matt Milano until somebody gets to the spot where

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Speaker 3: they feel like the new guy, the way they felt

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Speaker 3: to Matt Milano about Milano.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you remember last year when went out of

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Speaker 2: the lineup in Week five where Sean McDermott went was

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Speaker 2: ultimately with a three safety dining package when Taylor Rap

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Speaker 2: used that with pretty good success last year. Once that

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, and we begin with preseason action. In

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Speaker 2: before his career is over, right.

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Speaker 3: And they don't want to give him They're not nobody's

435
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Speaker 3: going to line up to give him a new deal. Yeah,

436
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Speaker 3: the kind of money he wants. So yeah, I mean

437
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Speaker 3: the Patriots knew if he wasn't going to play for him,

438
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Speaker 3: get what you can get, and they got a third.

439
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Speaker 3: That's which is it's not bad. It's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not bad for them. And you mentioned how

441
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Speaker 2: the Falcons signed another player. They got the big free

442
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Speaker 2: agent fish at the safety position in Justin Simmons, who

443
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Speaker 2: has a contract that could make him up to eight

444
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Speaker 2: million dollars. It's probably more in the four to five

445
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Speaker 2: million dollar range with incentives that could push it that high.

446
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Speaker 2: But yeah, the Falcons are going for it. Kind of

447
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Speaker 2: makes you think that Kirk Cousins is probably only there

448
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Speaker 2: for one year as well, and then the Michael Pennock

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Speaker 2: Show will begin.

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Speaker 3: I think that's best case scenario for the Falcons. That's

451
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Speaker 3: if Mike Pennick looks.

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Speaker 2: Good, well true, true.

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Speaker 3: I think he I I like the guy got a

454
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Speaker 3: Hell yeah, he's got a he's got a he's got

455
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Speaker 3: a big arm. So I'm I know why Atlanta got it.

456
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Speaker 3: I like the plan that they don't have to apologize

457
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Speaker 3: anybody for taking a quarterback after they just signed a

458
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Speaker 3: big time quarterback in Kirk Cousins. You got to have

459
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Speaker 3: one of those guys, and if you've always got a spare,

460
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Speaker 3: you're in a pretty good spot. So I'm i'm I

461
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Speaker 3: think Atlanta's has done some really good things. I don't

462
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Speaker 3: have you know. The the Panix pick was in large

463
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Speaker 3: part was criticized for wasting a pick that is that

464
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Speaker 3: high for a guy who's gonna sit on the bench

465
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Speaker 3: and watch. But if he's the right guy, man, nobody's

466
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Speaker 3: gonna care. I think you're gonna get kudos for it.

467
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Speaker 2: Arthur Blank writing blank checks.

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Speaker 3: I see what you did. I see what you did there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, elsewhere around the league, Joe Burrow isn't going to

470
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Speaker 2: play in the Bengals preseason game against the Bears this weekend.

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Speaker 2: He did take part in the joint practices with the

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Speaker 2: Bears this week, but he's not going to play in

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Speaker 2: the game. Despite that, he said he's going to be

474
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Speaker 2: ready for Week one regardless. Unclear if he'll play in

475
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Speaker 2: the Bengals joint practices with the Colts next week, but

476
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Speaker 2: he doesn't dress for another preseason game. He feels like

477
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Speaker 2: he's going to be fine. I mean, what else, what

478
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Speaker 2: else do you expect him to say? No, I'm not

479
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Speaker 2: going to be ready, like.

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Speaker 3: Right right, Yeah, if well as Joe Burrow goes, so

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Speaker 3: go the Cincinnati Bengals. And we've seen as we saw

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Speaker 3: last year. Yeah, we've seen that before.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see yeah. Unfortunately for the Bengals lost two

484
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Speaker 2: reserve players yesterday. Reserve running back Chris Evans injured while

485
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Speaker 2: covering a kickoff near the end of the two hour period.

486
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Speaker 2: They put his leg in a mobilizer cast. As it

487
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Speaker 2: turns out he's got a torn PA Tell attend and

488
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Speaker 2: his season is over. That is a bad injury. And

489
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Speaker 2: then ten minutes later, one of their reserve offensive tackles,

490
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Speaker 2: Deontay Smith went down with an injury to his left

491
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Speaker 2: leg that also required an a mobilizer cast. He said.

492
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Speaker 2: Smith was screaming in pain while he was down on

493
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Speaker 2: the field before the cart came out for him. No

494
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Speaker 2: word yet on his status. So a tough day for

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Speaker 2: the Bengals reserves. And as we said earlier here in Pittsburgh,

496
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Speaker 2: tomorrow night, Russell Wilson is going to make his preseason

497
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Speaker 2: debut for the Steelers against the Bills after not playing

498
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Speaker 2: last week due to that lingering calf injury. Head coach

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin said he and his starters will get four

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Speaker 2: series in tomorrow night's game against the Bills. As we said,

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Speaker 2: we expect to have playing time details for the Bill

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Speaker 2: starters in the second hour of the show today. Steve

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Speaker 2: and I have to take a break here, but when

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Speaker 2: we come back, we welcome your phone calls at eight

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Speaker 2: h three to zero five fifty won eight eight eight

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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty the number to get on board.

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Speaker 2: Got open lines for you there as it is OBL

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Speaker 2: Friday Fan Mailbag. Any questions you have on the bills,

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Speaker 2: our training camp's gone, position battles the league at large,

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Speaker 2: you let us know and we'll do our best to

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Speaker 2: answer those. You can't give us a call, you can

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Speaker 2: hit us up on Twitter at One Bill's Live. We

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Speaker 2: take a break here, back with your phone calls next,

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Speaker 2: stay with us, all right, Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you on a Friday, both

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Speaker 2: of us in Pittsburgh as we get set for tomorrow

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Speaker 2: night's preseason game number two against the Steelers. But the

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Speaker 2: OBL Friday fan mail bag is open at eighth three

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Speaker 2: oh five fifty one eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 2: That's the number to get on board. Ask us whatever

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Speaker 2: question you have under the sun. And we lead off

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Speaker 2: today with Ryan up in Toronto. What do you got

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Speaker 2: for us? Ryan? You're on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 4: Chris, Steve love lea show. Happy Friday. I hope you

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Speaker 4: guys enjoying Pittsburgh. Goodcern guys. What's going on in taining

526
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Speaker 4: with Bill's camp? It's second injury camp? Was the training camp?

527
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Speaker 4: All these injuries? Is it the scheme de dra running?

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Speaker 4: Is it the trainers? Is it the cooting? If the

529
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Speaker 4: player is now ready for this? I don't understand it.

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Speaker 4: It's really frustrating and it's really really sad. Please explain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand why you're frustrated, Ryan, I do. But

532
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Speaker 2: the answer is it's football. I mean, I just I

533
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: just ran down the joint practice yesterday between the Bengals

534
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Speaker 2: and the Bears. They had two guys carted off, one

535
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Speaker 2: with a season ending injury and another one with a

536
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Speaker 2: potentially season ending injury. Injuries happen in football, and Steve

537
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: can probably tell you even better than I can. But

538
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Speaker 2: it's a one injury sport.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it is. Unfortunately, it's frustrating because we hear,

540
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Speaker 3: you know, at one Bill's Drive you always and Bills

541
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Speaker 3: fans everywhere. You kind of follow your team, not everybody else's.

542
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Speaker 3: It's happening all over the league. It's one of the

543
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Speaker 3: main reasons player safety has become a hot button issue

544
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Speaker 3: over the last decade. You're losing players in meaningless practices,

545
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Speaker 3: in meaningless games, and non contact injuries. The surfaces they

546
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: play on are being scrutinized, the surfaces they practice on

547
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 3: are being scrutinized. The practice methods and practice and the

548
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: protocols they use to get guys on the field and

549
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Speaker 3: get them in shape or being scrutinized. And the fact

550
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Speaker 3: that you know the Bills have some quality players going

551
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: down to injury does not go unnoticed by anybody, particularly

552
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Speaker 3: the team itself. So there's no and I know it's

553
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: frustrating to hear, there's no explanation for it. It's a

554
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Speaker 3: very physical and rough game, and during the course of

555
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 3: practicing it and of course playing it, guys go down

556
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Speaker 3: to injury. And what what's different I think in this

557
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Speaker 3: day and age is that we don't hear as much

558
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Speaker 3: about the the minor injuries the guys go ahead and

559
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Speaker 3: play with. We don't hear as much about those as

560
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: perhaps we did in years pen decades past. Guys are

561
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 3: constantly playing uncomfortable because they have a sore ankle, a

562
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 3: sore elbows, sore shoulder sore, whatever it. Guys do it

563
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: all the time. It's constant, and you really only hear

564
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 3: about injuries when a guy is going to lose time

565
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Speaker 3: during the regular season and even in training camp. So

566
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Speaker 3: it's a frustrating aspect of the game that you know,

567
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Speaker 3: the more they attack it, the more the game changes.

568
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Speaker 3: And they and you know, even with this new dynamic

569
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Speaker 3: kickoff that in and of itself was a response to

570
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Speaker 3: guys getting injured on kickoff and kickoff return team. So

571
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Speaker 3: they change the game and that's how you know, that's

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Speaker 3: what you're looking at. Changes of that magnitude in order

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Speaker 3: to take the injuries out of it. Don't know that

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Speaker 3: the game would be the same that that. I think

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Speaker 3: that scares too many people about changing a game that

576
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Speaker 3: much to make it that safe, would make it less

577
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Speaker 3: appealing to a larger audience.

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Speaker 2: But then look at the guy that got injured for

579
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Speaker 2: the Bengals yesterday. It happens on a kickoff. So here

580
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Speaker 2: you've got this new kickoff play designed to reduce high

581
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Speaker 2: speed collisions and all that other stuff, and the guy

582
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Speaker 2: tears up attel attendant running down the field on a

583
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Speaker 2: kickoff for the Bengals. Yesterday and a joint practice with

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Speaker 2: the Bear. So even despite the best efforts of the league,

585
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Speaker 2: injuries are still happened.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll say this too, it's not that the

587
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Speaker 3: kickoffs have been changed, because they continued to get the

588
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Speaker 3: same injury over and over, and that's concussions. They were

589
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Speaker 3: averaging a concussion of game at one point, I think

590
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Speaker 3: something like that, and that may not be accurate, but

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Speaker 3: it was significantly higher than any other play in football,

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Speaker 3: and it happened on kickoffs. So years ago they changed

593
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Speaker 3: the kickoff to a standing start and moved everybody closer

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Speaker 3: together at the kick. That didn't work as well as

595
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Speaker 3: they wanted it to. Now they've done this dynamic kickoff.

596
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Speaker 3: We'll see if that camp happens. But having a guy

597
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: blows Pateeller, while it is bad, that does not fall

598
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Speaker 3: into the injuries that they were trying to prevent when

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Speaker 3: they change the dynamic kickoffs. So even when you do

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Speaker 3: one thing really well, you're still kind of get hurt

601
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Speaker 3: on the other end of it by you know, in

602
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Speaker 3: the same way you would in any other play in football.

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Speaker 2: Right, And that's the point I was trying to make.

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Speaker 2: Despite even the league's best efforts to make it a

605
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Speaker 2: safer game in one fashion, injuries are still going to

606
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Speaker 2: crop up elsewhere. So it's just the nature of the

607
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Speaker 2: sport unfortunately. And look, Ryan, I get why it's frustrating.

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Speaker 2: You heard Steve talking about me yesterday when we first

609
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Speaker 2: got the news and how frustrated and disappointed I was

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Speaker 2: not only form Madam Milano, but for the defense as

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Speaker 2: a whole. Yeah, it's frustrating. It's hard not to be frustrated.

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Speaker 2: I think we all recognize how much this much younger

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Speaker 2: defense with a lot of new piece is needs a

614
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Speaker 2: Matt Mullano who's a seven year veteran in the system.

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Speaker 2: And now that's not part of the equation going into

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Speaker 2: the season. So believe you mean, we get your frustration.

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Speaker 2: It's just that's what football is. Sometimes very frustrated because

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Speaker 2: of the injury rates the sport.

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Speaker 3: Some of the things that make the game so intriguing

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Speaker 3: and so unbelievably compelling to watch are the same things

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Speaker 3: that frustrate you when the results of those aspects of

622
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 3: the game come to fruition. When when it's a big

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Speaker 3: when it's a big, physical game played by big physical dudes,

624
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Speaker 3: guys are going to get hurt, and in order to

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Speaker 3: get one, you got to put up with the other.

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Speaker 2: Noah, let's go to Joe in Williamsville next. What do

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Speaker 2: you got for us?

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Speaker 3: Joe?

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. With Milano's injury. Yesterday,

630
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Speaker 5: I went online to see what linebacker free agents were

631
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Speaker 5: still available. And the first guy that popped up, and

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Speaker 5: I'm going to try and pronounce his name correctly here

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Speaker 5: is on Taki Tacky. He's from the Cleveland Browns. He's

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Speaker 5: twenty nine years old, and thegrated him as a three

635
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Speaker 5: star Langbarker. They said that he has been a solid,

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Speaker 5: well rounded three down linebacker for the Browns. What do

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Speaker 5: you think the possibility is of the Bill signing a

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Speaker 5: free agent linebacker? And I realize that they may be

639
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 5: up the wall, up against the wall, you know, with

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Speaker 5: the Sali cap and everything. I'll hang up and listen

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Speaker 5: to you guys. Thanks a lot for again, and great

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Speaker 5: show you bet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, Joe. I mean I I think that there

644
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: are two things that play here that someone like Brandon

645
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: Bean has to consider. The first thing is is the

646
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Speaker 2: player a fit, if not for a full time role,

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Speaker 2: for a niche role on the roster within the scope

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Speaker 2: of the defense. Maybe it's in a die package, maybe

649
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Speaker 2: it's as a pass coverage linebacker. That's number one, and

650
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: then number two is the linebacker and safety positions in

651
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: this defense. You've heard Brandon Bean say it. You've heard

652
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,479
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott say they're putting a ton on Taylor Rap's plate.

653
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: Why because he played a whole season in this system

654
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 2: last year and he's a veteran. And the linebacker position

655
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: there's a ton on their plates also within the scope

656
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: of this defense. It's not one that you can just

657
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: swoop in, join the roster and have it in two

658
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: weeks and be good to go. It's just not the

659
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: way this defense works. It's a very complex, multifaceted defense

660
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: for linebackers and safeties in particular, and that kind of

661
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: muddies the waters where you just can't say, Hey, this

662
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: guy's been good, let's put him on the roster. It

663
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: just doesn't work that way here because of the complexities

664
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Speaker 2: that this defense demands of its linebackers and safeties.

665
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Speaker 3: Right, getting a guy up to speed takes a lot

666
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Speaker 3: of time, and by the time you get him in

667
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 3: and get him up to speed, the guys that were

668
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 3: hurt now. And this is not the case for Milano obviously,

669
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Speaker 3: but it would be the case for Eddie Ulafio. You

670
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 3: bring a guy and you get him up to speed,

671
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 3: and right about the time he gets ready to start

672
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: taking some really good reps healthy, you know, he's back

673
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 3: in the He's back in the mix. So that's that's

674
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: the issue. It's they don't just hold up a card

675
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 3: and you run on the little you know the line

676
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 3: is drawn for you to run on. It's not that easy.

677
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 3: It's verbiage, it's it's protocols, it's you know where you

678
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: go to meet who, who your coach is the whole thing.

679
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 3: It is an enormous problem getting guys acclimated into your

680
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 3: culture in the NFL, and you can't you can't just

681
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: switch him out. That's part of the reason why it's

682
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 3: always been difficult to trade players in the NFL. A

683
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: guy who's good on your team may just be mediocre

684
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: on our team. You know, a guy who's been a

685
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 3: truly great player for you, if he would have been

686
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 3: taken by us, he'd be out of football right now

687
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 3: because he just doesn't fit our culture, doesn't fit our team.

688
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 3: That kind of differences from team to team exist, and

689
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: that's why it takes some time to get these guys

690
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 3: up to speed offensively and defensively. Yes, they've already got

691
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 3: was nine linebackers on the roster, and if you look

692
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Speaker 3: at it that way, they ain't got room. I mean

693
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 3: they're gonna have they won't, I mean they do get

694
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Speaker 3: They're not gonna do anything with Milano until because there's

695
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 3: a chance here you can come back late in the year.

696
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 3: They're not going to do anything with his roster spot

697
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Speaker 3: until the final cutdowns.

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Speaker 2: Right. The reason why is if they put him on

699
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Speaker 2: IR now his season's over, he can't come back, and

700
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Speaker 2: with the prospect of him potentially coming back to the

701
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Speaker 2: roster in December, it forces them to wait until actual

702
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: cutdown day on August twenty seventh, at which point they

703
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: can put him on IR and then designate him to return.

704
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Speaker 2: So they don't even gain a roster spot with Milano's

705
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: injury right now. They have to wait until August twenty seven.

706
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Speaker 3: Right, So now they're waiting. Now they get Eddie you

707
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Speaker 3: Ulafohio back in the lineup. Bayle Inspector from a rim Ingery.

708
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: Bayle Inspector's got a calf he's dealing with, so he's out.

709
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Speaker 3: So you've already got eight linebackers listed here. The ones

710
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Dorian Williams, Terrel Bernard, Joe Andrees and

711
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: Dion Jones, Edie Ulifotio, Nick Morrow, Bayle Inspector and then

712
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 3: of course Milano is in that list too because he

713
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Speaker 3: takes a roster spot.

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Speaker 2: Right, Spector and Morrow are also nicked. Yeah, so you've

715
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: got been They haven't been practicing either.

716
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Speaker 3: He's got five guys, one of which just came off

717
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 3: the injured list himself in ULO, right, So you can't

718
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 3: you're gonna go nine guys at linebacker. So you're gonna

719
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 3: what cut some defensive back or defensive ed and you know,

720
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Speaker 3: an edge who you're gonna cut at a place where

721
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: you might need to keep more than five guys you

722
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Speaker 3: do at linebacker six if you're lucky, which I kind

723
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Speaker 3: of doubt they'll do this year. I think they're gonna

724
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Speaker 3: go with five linebackers maybe.

725
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Speaker 2: So yeah, and Joe, despite this whole conversation, I don't

726
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: know where you were looking at free agents, but I

727
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: thought Sioni Taki Taki was on a roster and I

728
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: checked and he is. He's on the Patriots roster right now,

729
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: so he's not even available. I would imagine that at

730
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 2: cutdown time on August twenty seventh, Brandon Bean and his

731
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 2: coaching staff will be scouring the waiver wire to see

732
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 2: if there's somebody that fits the bill, either for a

733
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 2: niche role, or maybe there's a surprise veteran that's released

734
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: that has time in this system. Again, look to the

735
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: Carolina connection, perhaps you know, knowing they played McDermott's Sstem

736
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 2: down there for years and still play a version of

737
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 2: it now. That's a possibility, but I think for now

738
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 2: they're going to go with what they have unless another

739
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: couple of guys go down to injury. I think they're

740
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: hoping that Nick Morrow is back soon. I know they

741
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: said Specter could be out a week. That's not ideal.

742
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: But if you can get Maro back in the fold,

743
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: now at least you have seven healthy linebackers, and I

744
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 2: think you're a k for the time being. We have

745
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: to take a break here, but we come back more

746
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: of your phone calls. We'll lead off with Market East

747
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Speaker 2: Amherst when we return here. On One Bill's Live, presented

748
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Speaker 2: by to Light a helt Its Buffalo Bills Radio. All

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Speaker 2: right back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 2: Tasker on a Friday, Steve and I joining you from

751
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh as we get said for preseason game number two

752
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: tomorrow night here at Heinz Field. Actually it's Akroscher Stadium. Now,

753
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: my my apologies. You gotta they keep changing these names, Steve,

754
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: and like you have it in the brain that you

755
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: know stadium, you you know it to be this, and

756
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: then they change it and you gotta go.

757
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 3: You gotta get it right.

758
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 6: That is it.

759
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 2: Let's get it's okay. I am a huge catchup fan though,

760
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 2: so that's why that's why it's on the break. Let's

761
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 2: get back to the phones. Here on an obl Friday

762
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: fan mail bag. And as promised to Marganice Amherst, what

763
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: do you have for us?

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Speaker 6: Mar Hi, Chris and Steve. I hope this phone call

765
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 6: finds you well. Steve. I'm going to direct my question

766
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 6: to you. My question is first, I'll give you my comments.

767
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 6: Rusty Jones obviously was guru, very respected sports nutrition guy

768
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 6: in the NFL when it came to nutrition and customized

769
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 6: workouts per position. He was cutting edge and it just

770
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Speaker 6: seems that during that era we had a lot less

771
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Speaker 6: injuries than we are experiencing now. Having said that, I mean,

772
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Speaker 6: I understand that injuries are part of the game. They're

773
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Speaker 6: going to happen. Sometimes you just can't prevent certain things.

774
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 6: But obviously the last few years we've had more than

775
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 6: our share of injuries. And my question is that when

776
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 6: you look at somebody like Rusty Jones and Anthony Costanzo

777
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 6: for the Colts, was a left tackle and he credited

778
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 6: Rusty Jones for prolonging his career because he was suffering

779
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 6: a lot of knee pain and Rusty Jones identified the

780
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 6: fact that it was coming from his hip, therefore weakened

781
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 6: his hamstrings and developed he customized workout regimen for him

782
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 6: to treat that specific situation. So my question is, Steve,

783
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Speaker 6: is that I'm not saying that they have talented people

784
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 6: on staff, but is there a way that maybe that

785
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 6: you can suggest that maybe they can add somebody to

786
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 6: the sports development nutrition program where they can maybe instill

787
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 6: some methods to curtail some of these injuries. And thank

788
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 6: you for listening to me. I'll hang up and I'll

789
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 6: listen to you by.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for the call. You're right. Here's the thing, No question,

791
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: coaches like Rusty Jones can make a difference for athletes

792
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 3: because you'll get an athlete in there who has done

793
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 3: something in his whole life and nobody's able to pin

794
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: it down. Or Rusty did for as you said that

795
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: the left tackle. He did that for other players with

796
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills while I was there, certain guys were

797
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 3: freed from injuries. Don Biebie was a constant hamstring pull

798
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 3: when he first got to Buffalo, and Rusty Jones helped

799
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 3: him with that by training him and giving him an

800
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 3: idea of what was wrong with his physique and he

801
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 3: could work on that and make those injuries go away.

802
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: Don really never after outside of his rookie year, never

803
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: had really had a hamstring injury after that. No question,

804
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 3: guys like Rusty Jones are invaluable to organizations. The Bills

805
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 3: have great ones in their building. But I get it,

806
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: it seems like it, but to say that the Bills

807
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 3: of my generation had less injuries because of that would

808
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 3: probably be inaccurate.

809
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 2: So would just comment that the Bills have had more

810
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: than their fair share. I think they've had.

811
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've had their share. There was actually The thing

812
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 3: about it was two years ago, in twenty and twenty one,

813
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 3: the Bills were the least injured football or maybe it

814
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 3: was nineteen and twenty, the Bills were the least injured

815
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 3: football team in the NFL by far. They didn't they

816
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 3: had fewer injuries and all of that, and it was

817
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 3: great and we thought, wow, this is awesome. It didn't last.

818
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: They came back to the mean, just like you would

819
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 3: expect them to, and they're they're exactly like every other

820
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 3: football team. The problem is when you start getting players

821
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 3: left of the caliber of Tredevius White and Matt Mulano

822
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 3: and Micah Hyde and Jordan Foyer. It, yeah, it's noticeable,

823
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 3: and the performance on the field is noticeable. When special

824
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 3: team guys like me get hurt, you know, it's not

825
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 3: really a blip on the radar. But it was happening

826
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Speaker 3: back when I played it, and it still happens today. And

827
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Speaker 3: I said it earlier in the show. Just because you

828
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: don't hear about it doesn't mean that not every single

829
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 3: one of those guys has got something they're walking around

830
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 3: with now anyway, Like I'm talking about an injury, So

831
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: I get it, and I listen nobody's got more love

832
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 3: and respect for Rusty Jones than me. He was. We

833
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: used to tease him and call him a scientist more

834
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 3: than we called him a coach. The problem was we

835
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Speaker 3: always tease him about us being guinea pigs instead of

836
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 3: football players. Yes, Rusty Jones was brilliant and he was

837
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Speaker 3: on the cutting edge. That's why he was at the

838
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Speaker 3: NFL level. That's why Frank Wright coaxed him out of

839
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 3: retirement to come help him with the Indianapolis Colts, and

840
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 3: he did. Yeah, Rusty and men like him, Coaches like

841
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: men and women like him can help players in the

842
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: manner that you suggested. You'll get a guy who because

843
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 3: of the way he walks around, because of his body type,

844
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 3: because of his eating habits, and the way he trains

845
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 3: one muscle group, like in this case, his hamstrings or whatever,

846
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 3: an oblique muscle or his abdomen or his core muscles,

847
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 3: they get neglected in this training regimen and as a result,

848
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 3: it manifests itself in some kind kind of injury. The

849
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: guy seems to get every six months. He gets this

850
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: stupid injury over and over. Guys like Rusty Jones keep

851
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 3: that from happening. But they don't keep you from blowing

852
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 3: your knee out on a kickoff coverage. They don't keep

853
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 3: you from you know, pulling your peck muscle, or your

854
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 3: your arm, your bicep, or tearing your peck.

855
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: Or getting caught in a pile up and breaking your leg.

856
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 3: That's right, or getting caught in a pile So that's

857
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 3: the frustrating part about it. But yeah, and the bills have.

858
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Speaker 3: In fact, one of the reasons the bills are such

859
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 3: as sought after organization. Why guys love playing here is

860
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 3: because you know, we all saw if you go to

861
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Speaker 3: the games. In one Bill's drive, you see the twenty

862
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Speaker 3: seven million dollar or whatever it was weight room that

863
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Speaker 3: there they've got over there. That is state of the art.

864
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Speaker 3: It's it's awesome, and it's all well and good, but

865
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Speaker 3: that's not what makes it special. What makes it special

866
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Speaker 3: is the fact that when they put that in, Sean

867
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Speaker 3: and Brandon Bean told Terry it's not going to be

868
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Speaker 3: just about having pretty weights here. We've got to have

869
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Speaker 3: the people to staff this. We have you know, have messuses, chiropractors, acupunctures,

870
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Speaker 3: cold chambers, you know, all the whole thing. It is staffed.

871
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Speaker 3: So that back in then when I played guys like

872
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Speaker 3: Bruce and Jim, Jim Kelley and Bruce Smith Rman time,

873
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Speaker 3: guys who are making seven figures could afford to get

874
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Speaker 3: their own messus. They could afford to get their own acupuncture.

875
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Speaker 3: It's their own chiropractor. Now the club provides a staffed

876
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Speaker 3: environment with all of those things available to all the guys,

877
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Speaker 3: and that's why it's a much better place to play.

878
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Speaker 3: That's why that building over there you know that we

879
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Speaker 3: work in is so successful. It's not because of the equipment,

880
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Speaker 3: it's because of the people behind it.

881
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Speaker 2: Got to take a break here. But when we begin

882
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Speaker 2: our number two, we'll have an update on playing time

883
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Speaker 2: for the Bill starters in preseason game number two, and

884
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Speaker 2: we'll also be joined by beat reporter for the New

885
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: England Patriots for ESPN, Mike Reese to give us a

886
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 2: rundown of how things looked with Drake May in their

887
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 2: preseason game last night against the Eagles. We'll catch up

888
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: with him next year. On One Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 2: Colid of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, our number two here on One Bills Live,

892
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 2: on a Friday, Chris Brown, Steve Taster, coming to you

893
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 2: from Pittsburgh where we're getting set for preseason game number

894
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: two tomorrow night, and the word is out on starters

895
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: and how long they plan to play here. According to

896
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: coach McDermott, he said starters will go a quarter and

897
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Speaker 2: a half and that includes Josh Allen. The only thing

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Speaker 2: that could compromise that playing time some of the rainy

899
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Speaker 2: weather that is expected here in Pittsburgh tomorrow, so that

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Speaker 2: could cut some player's time short. And I would imagine

901
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 2: if footing is an issue, Josh might be in that number.

902
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Speaker 2: As far as players that would come out a little prematurely.

903
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Speaker 2: We should also tell you are you or someone you

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Speaker 2: know our twenty twenty four Fan of the Year. We're

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Speaker 2: looking for Bill's fans who inspire others with their fandom

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908
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: now that we've got the particulars out of the way,

909
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Speaker 2: we can get the guest done that we wanted all along.

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00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 6: Here.

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00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 2: It's ESPN NFL Nation Patriots reporter Mike Reese joining us

912
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 2: as he had a busy night last night covering Patriots

913
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 2: Eagles at Jellette Stadium in Foxborough for their preseason game.

914
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 2: And I don't know about you, Steve, but I saw

915
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 2: Mike's report on Sports Center this morning, and the spirits

916
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Speaker 2: are buoyed in life kind of Drake May's performance going

917
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Speaker 2: forward here, Mike, thanks very much for joining us. We

918
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 2: appreciate it. I guess maybe just give us your initial

919
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 2: impressions from where you saw Drake May, you know, as

920
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Speaker 2: early as the preseason to maybe this point now coming

921
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Speaker 2: out of this preseason performance.

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Speaker 7: Well, Chris and Steve. Great to be with you. Chris,

923
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 7: I just want to say congratulations. We go way back,

924
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 7: and so this is a big off season for you.

925
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 7: I couldn't start without saying that, but I mean, I

926
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Speaker 7: appreciate that. I think for Drake that was the best

927
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 7: that I've seen him. Look, they've had fourteen training camp practices,

928
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 7: two preseason games, and I just thought the calmness that

929
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 7: he showed and just stepping up in the pocket and

930
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Speaker 7: using his feet, it was the best we've seen. There's

931
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Speaker 7: still a gap between him and Jacoby Brissett right now,

932
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 7: you know who is the veterans starter, but I would

933
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Speaker 7: say that this is the first time where you started

934
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Speaker 7: to see some of the signs and some of the

935
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Speaker 7: things that they've talked about as to why they picked

936
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Speaker 7: Drake you know, May third overall. And so I think

937
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Speaker 7: from an you know, this franchise, this fan base, I

938
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Speaker 7: know it's going to sound crazy, but just looking for

939
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Speaker 7: something to be optimistic about after a four and thirteen season,

940
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Speaker 7: a new regime, And I think that was the story

941
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Speaker 7: of last night for.

942
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Speaker 3: Them, no question. I think it was the poise that

943
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 3: he showed in the pocket and the fact that he

944
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 3: just seemed calm now certainly had nothing. He didn't go

945
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Speaker 3: exactly right for him, but he was certainly athletic enough,

946
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 3: got a live arm, of course, and he seemed to

947
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Speaker 3: see more than he has seen in the past when

948
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Speaker 3: he dropped back, it seemed like he knew more of

949
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Speaker 3: what he was looking at.

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Speaker 7: And I think that's right, Steve, and I think that

951
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Speaker 7: the context is the Eagles were playing their second stringers

952
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Speaker 7: for the most part in those situations. So I think

953
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 7: we've got we've got to mention that also. Drake May

954
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Speaker 7: saying after the game that practicing against the Eagles on

955
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Speaker 7: Tuesday gave him a little bit of the answers to

956
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Speaker 7: the test, you know, going to the game. So I

957
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Speaker 7: think all that's important in context. At the same time,

958
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Speaker 7: what I always look at, guys, is just trying to

959
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Speaker 7: be fair. If Drake may struggled, what would we be

960
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 7: talking about, like, oh, my goodness, you know what is

961
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 7: going on the development. But we try to strike the

962
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 7: balance right between calling it like we see it but

963
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Speaker 7: also giving the context there. And I thought the most

964
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Speaker 7: encouraging thing was just the way it started. You know,

965
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Speaker 7: his first play was a handoff, the second play was

966
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Speaker 7: a false start by an offensive lineman, so it was

967
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Speaker 7: second and eleven, and here he was, guys, after a

968
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Speaker 7: week of why didn't he play more in the preseason

969
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Speaker 7: opener when all the other top quarterbacks were playing and

970
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Speaker 7: performing well, and he's in this adverse situation. He runs

971
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Speaker 7: for six yards to create third and manageable and then

972
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Speaker 7: hits Javon Baker on a short pass over the middle

973
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Speaker 7: for an initial first down. And I think just overcoming

974
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Speaker 7: that initial adversity was another positive for him in the game.

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Speaker 2: So what do we make Mike of the fact that

976
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Speaker 2: head coached me says the competition is still ongoing here

977
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Speaker 2: for the starting job. Clearly they have to feel they

978
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Speaker 2: have a very good handle on what Jacobrey perssett is.

979
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Speaker 2: This is his second stint with the club, So what

980
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: does that mean going forward in your eyes? That he

981
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Speaker 2: still is leaving the door open with only one preseason game.

982
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Speaker 7: To go, So, well, it means a lot to me

983
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 7: Chris on like three different levels. Let's see if I

984
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 7: can get him off the top of my head. The

985
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 7: first is like, it's just Gerrodmeo and the program he's

986
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 7: trying to implement here. He wants to make sure everyone

987
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 7: knows it's always about competition, Like we're not just going

988
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 7: to hand this to you. So I think that's the

989
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 7: first thing, Like we're not ready to declare a starter,

990
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 7: but we're really not doing that for any position. The

991
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 7: second thing is like, yeah, let's take this down to

992
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 7: the wire, like next week preseason finale, we're playing our guys,

993
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 7: Like this wasn't our dress rehearsal last night, Like we

994
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 7: need more time offensively because we're not where we need

995
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 7: to be. And the third thing is like we need

996
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 7: to get Jacoby going a little bit here. He's three

997
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 7: of ten for seventeen yards over four preseason drives with

998
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 7: one costly end zone interception. So I think it's almost

999
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 7: a way to motivate him to say, we love you,

1000
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 7: we know what you can do in this system. You've

1001
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 7: been with Alex Van Pelt, our offensive coordinator in twenty

1002
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 7: twenty two with the Browns. We love your command of

1003
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 7: the system. We love how you're helping mentor Drake May. Now,

1004
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 7: let's just try to get some on field results on

1005
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 7: the field heading into the regular season opener so we

1006
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 7: can feel better about where we are.

1007
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 3: And as this last preseason game comes down the pipe,

1008
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 3: do you anticipate your starters maybe playing past halftime like

1009
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 3: so many coaches like to do. Give him a halftime

1010
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 3: to make some adjustments, go back out that kind of thing,

1011
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 3: or will it be a little less than that.

1012
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 7: So, Steve, I gotta tell you, we are getting answers

1013
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 7: when we ask these questions today, and I'm just not

1014
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 7: used to it. I'm not used to it. I asked

1015
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 7: Jirod not the exact question this morning, but I had said,

1016
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 7: and he goes, we're playing and so I don't know

1017
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 7: specifically how much they'll play, But I do think that

1018
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 7: that makes a lot of sense. Steve, like that Jacoby

1019
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 7: Bris said is going to start, and depending on how

1020
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 7: it goes, he could go for a long time here.

1021
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 7: The only thing that is sort of holding him back

1022
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 7: a little bit is offensive line. They're very concerned at

1023
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 7: the backup center spot. So they're starting center David Andrews.

1024
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 7: They're judiciously playing him and when he comes out. They

1025
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 7: had three center quarterback exchange issues last night. So some

1026
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 7: of that is tied to, like the offensive line, the

1027
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 7: first unit, and how long they can play, how long

1028
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 7: they're willing to do it. So it's a push and

1029
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 7: pull between those two things.

1030
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: All right, So let's flip it to the defense side. Now.

1031
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 2: Obviously the trade happened for Matthew Judon, he goes to

1032
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 2: Atlanta and Steve and I actually applauded the Patriots for

1033
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 2: not giving him an extension. He's thirty two years old.

1034
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 2: His career is going to be over by the time

1035
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 2: the Patriots are really presumably contenders again in the AFC,

1036
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: so I thought it was the right move for them,

1037
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 2: and getting a third round pick is probably pretty good

1038
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 2: value for a thirty two year old pass rusher. So

1039
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 2: I guess question one is what is the general fan

1040
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: reaction to that move. And then two, the defense is

1041
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 2: really expected to probably hold this team in games in

1042
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 2: the first half of the season while the offense kind

1043
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 2: of gets its legs under them with Alex Van Peltic coordinator.

1044
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 2: So what are your responses to those two questions? Fan

1045
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 2: reaction to the trade and then the defense sands Judah.

1046
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, so fan reaction mixed, Chris, And I think part

1047
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 7: of that is Matthew Judon did a wonderful job connecting

1048
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 7: with fans here. So before games he would always be

1049
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 7: out throwing the football with fans in the stands. Before

1050
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,919
Speaker 7: training camp practices, he would make a loop around, throw

1051
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 7: the football, hold you know, babies, and like the one

1052
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 7: player I would say, just made that part of his routine.

1053
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,439
Speaker 7: So they had developed a connection with him. So hard

1054
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 7: to see him go. And I will say, Chris, like

1055
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 7: even on the team website, like as of the night

1056
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 7: of the trade, Like you log on and there's five

1057
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 7: players on the top of the banner and he's like

1058
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 7: right there in the center, you know, with his arms folded.

1059
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 7: Because he was one of their most marketable players. He

1060
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 7: was one of the players fans could say, we're coming

1061
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,439
Speaker 7: to see him, you know. So I think that part

1062
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 7: from a fan reaction has been tough. I think stripping

1063
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,479
Speaker 7: that away and everything you said about the business side

1064
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 7: of it, they got good value, you know, at this

1065
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 7: time of year for a thirty two year old pass rusher,

1066
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 7: especially considering where they are in their development. They got

1067
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 7: some younger guys. Keon White is the one name I

1068
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,919
Speaker 7: would highlight, second round pick last year out of Georgia Tech.

1069
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 7: He's six ' five two eighty five, can play on

1070
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 7: the edge, can play inside, you know, defensively, sort of

1071
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 7: like this freakish mix of power and athleticism. He would

1072
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 7: be the one player I would highlight that could potentially elevate,

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Speaker 7: you know, into that type of role and hopefully for

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Speaker 7: them not see as much of a drop off. But

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Speaker 7: that's a that they lost one of their best pass rushers.

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Speaker 7: You can't deny that.

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Speaker 3: And Girad Mayo was pretty forthcoming after the game last night.

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Speaker 3: You said, he's kind of a different animal when it

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Speaker 3: comes to postgame press conferences, and.

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Speaker 1: What did he he had.

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Speaker 3: He was pretty positive about what Drake may did last

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Speaker 3: night as well.

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Speaker 7: He was he said Steve that it was a definite step.

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Speaker 3: Forward and.

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Speaker 7: He loved the way that he moved in the pocket.

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Speaker 7: So he said that was one thing like again, this

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Speaker 7: is like to me, it's just great insight, like if

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Speaker 7: you're curious, like how they're viewing it, and he balances

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Speaker 7: it off, Steve, so he gives you like this movement

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Speaker 7: in the pocket. He had this long pass in the

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Speaker 7: third quarter that was a beauty that was dropped by

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Speaker 7: Jayvon Baker. But he Mao said that was one thing

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Speaker 7: they were working on, like stepping up against pressure, keeping

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Speaker 7: plays alive with his feet and then he balances it

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Speaker 7: off and he says, going forward, what we want to

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Speaker 7: see is like the operation be faster. Let's get in

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Speaker 7: and out of the huddle faster, Let's get lined up quicker,

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Speaker 7: which I defer to you, Steve, you've played the game

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Speaker 7: like I think that comes with experience. But that's not

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Speaker 7: easy to do, especially when like that's not really the

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Speaker 7: way you did it.

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Speaker 3: In college, right right, Yeah, no question, And it helps

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Speaker 3: you in the back. It's it promotes confidence as well,

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Speaker 3: and it shows how confident you are and what you're

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Speaker 3: doing that you can do it faster and more efficiently.

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Speaker 3: And that's one of the things I wanted to ask

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Speaker 3: you as well. Jacoby Brissett, not how long? How long

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Speaker 3: a leash did Jacoby Brissett have? I mean, if he's playing, oh,

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Speaker 3: you know, like Jacoby Brissett would okay, maybe not elevating

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Speaker 3: the talent or round him, but certainly not costing you games.

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Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, eight games into the season,

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Speaker 3: the Patriots earned a hole they got to dig out of.

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Speaker 3: How long is the leash before Drake may is the guy?

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Speaker 7: It's such a great question and I don't know the

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Speaker 7: answer to it. I would I would think part of

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Speaker 7: it Steve is tied to like, do we see mistakes

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Speaker 7: like he made last night? So in his second drive,

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Speaker 7: you know, they got points, they're down I want to

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Speaker 7: say high red zone, and so they got three pretty

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Speaker 7: much locked in and then he throws it into the

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Speaker 7: end zone an interception. I think if we saw plays

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Speaker 7: like that more consistently, then maybe the leash is shorter.

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Speaker 7: But to me, the concern that they probably have is like,

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Speaker 7: did we just lived the Mac Jones experience under the

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Speaker 7: prior regime where they didn't support Mac, Like the offensive

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Speaker 7: line was an issue, the talent around Mac was an issue,

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Speaker 7: and we saw it affect Mac after a pretty good

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Speaker 7: rookie year, it went downhill, and I think they're so

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Speaker 7: cognizant of that here, the coaches and the personnel people

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Speaker 7: that live that they don't want to do the same

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Speaker 7: thing to Drake May And I think that in that sense,

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Speaker 7: that's where the leash might be longer for Jacoby say hey,

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Speaker 7: do we let's get our infrastructure together and really feel

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Speaker 7: good about it before we actually do turn it over

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Speaker 7: to Drake.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Which now banks the question Mike Young receiving corps.

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Speaker 2: They invested in the draft and the receiving corps Jalen

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Speaker 2: Pop Javon Baker, As you mentioned, offensive line a little

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Speaker 2: shaky in the joint practices. From what we understand from

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Speaker 2: a past protection standpoint, what does the picture look like

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01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 2: around the quarterback going into the season and where are

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Speaker 2: the biggest areas of concern from a consistency of play standpoint?

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Speaker 7: So to me, Chris, like I always look at it

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Speaker 7: from a defensive coordinator standpoint. If I was trying to

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Speaker 7: defend the Patriots, who would I say, that's the player

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Speaker 7: you know we have to take away? And I think

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01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 7: the best thing they have going from is their slot

1148
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 7: receiver right now, Pop Douglas. He's a sixth round pick

1149
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 7: last year out of Liberty. And the reason I say

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Speaker 7: that is he's the one that I feel I can

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Speaker 7: uncover the quickest.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 7: The other receivers they have, they can catch the ball

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Speaker 7: and they run fine routes, but there's no one that

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Speaker 7: I feel like runs you know, runs that well where

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Speaker 7: you say wow, or no one that's that big where

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01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 7: you say whoa you know like, And so it's they

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Speaker 7: have to win in my view, with the totality of

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Speaker 7: the parts right like everyone's sort of pulling a little

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Speaker 7: bit of the rope together. They're missing that sort of alpha,

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Speaker 7: you know, offensively that I think would make it easier

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Speaker 7: on a quarterback and frankly easier on an offensive line,

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Speaker 7: you know, when you have that type of player. That's

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Speaker 7: why they went hard after Calvin Ridley in free agency.

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Speaker 7: They went hard after Brandon Ayuk, you know, in the

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Speaker 7: possible trade. So I think they know that and they're

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Speaker 7: just trying to make the best of what they have

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Speaker 7: right now, feeling like there's some pieces there to build

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Speaker 7: with for the future, but more work to be done.

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Speaker 3: What about the way Gerd Mayo has handled his staff

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Speaker 3: and this training camp. How has it how different? And

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Speaker 3: we've we've kind of chuckled about how more open and

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Speaker 3: honest that Grod Mayo is. How different is it all

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Speaker 3: throughout that building?

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Speaker 7: I think it's a lot different, Steve. I mean the

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Speaker 7: people that are in there say that it's a different vibe,

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Speaker 7: a different energy. I would say being at practice. I'll

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Speaker 7: give you one example, like Gira Mayo has the music

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Speaker 7: playing pretty much all throughout practice, whereas with Bill Belichick

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Speaker 7: it would be on for the warm ups, they would

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Speaker 7: turn it off and then they'd maybe turn it back

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Speaker 7: on in competitive periods. So just to give you like

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01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 7: a little I know it's a small thing, but just

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01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 7: a little snapshot. And I think another part of my

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Speaker 7: answer just that I think people listening with Bill's sort

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01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 7: of background in mind would be interested in is Alex

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Speaker 7: van Pelt right, like because he was with Buffalo and

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01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 7: a great guy as everyone knows, Gerrod's really turned the

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Speaker 7: offense over to him, like when we talk about Drake

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Speaker 7: may and Jacoby Brissett, Like Geron is saying Alex, like

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Speaker 7: we trust you, like You've got a great pedigree, a

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Speaker 7: great background. And so I think that part of it,

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Speaker 7: and you know you guys know Alex. I mean like

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Speaker 7: I think the great I'm getting to know him, but just.

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Speaker 3: Like the alt of the Earth got right, so I

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Speaker 3: think very much.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, that speaks to the vibe in the atmosphere

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Speaker 7: here as well.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, he's been around long enough. He was Steve's

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Speaker 2: teaming for a couple of years before Steve hung it up.

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01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 2: So and he was on the Bills Radio Network for

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Speaker 2: a couple of years before he got into coaching. So

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Speaker 2: make sure you say I to him from us the

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Speaker 2: next time you see him. Mike, thanks as always for

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Speaker 2: the insight. We appreciate it. Thanks for giving us our

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Speaker 2: AFC East update on the Patriots. And I guess we'll

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Speaker 2: see in December. It's gonna be a bit of before

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Speaker 2: we see. It'll play until week fifteen or sixteen or something.

1209
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 2: It's crazy how that quirk in the schedule work.

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Speaker 7: Definitely well, I look forward to it, and I just say,

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Speaker 7: I always love talking with you. I think that what

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Speaker 7: you guys do on the show's awesome.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks Mike, appreciation shed as always. That's Mike

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Speaker 2: Ree's ESPN NFL Nation Patriots reporter does a bang up job.

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Speaker 2: Soup to nuts on covering that team. We have to

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Speaker 2: step aside here when we come back. More of your

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Speaker 2: questions from the Obel Friday fan mail bag here on

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Speaker 2: One Bills Live, presented by to Lo out of Health.

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you here on

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Speaker 2: a Friday. Obl Friday fan mail bag is open. If

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Speaker 2: you want to join us, hit us up on the

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Speaker 2: phone lines eight O three oh five fifty one eighty

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Speaker 2: eight five fifty two, five fifty. We are going to

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Speaker 2: dive into the mail bag here first and then get

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Speaker 2: to some calls in just a second. And first one

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Speaker 2: call comes from Tom who says he's being going to

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Speaker 2: make calls to the free agent linebackers out there, or

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Speaker 2: do you think we will use what we have? Shaq

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Speaker 2: Leonard is out there. Shaq Leonard is out there. Had

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Speaker 2: a bad back injury, so that's the reason he's out there.

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Speaker 2: And Steve, as we mentioned earlier, I think it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be hard for them to find a roster spot to

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Speaker 2: swap out for another linebacker when you know they have

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Speaker 2: six healthy right now out of nine that they're already

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Speaker 2: carrying right.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing. There's no room for him on the roster.

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Speaker 3: Milano's not going anywhere off this roster until August seven.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna hang on to him to designate him injured

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Speaker 3: for an eligible to return, which means he's got to

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Speaker 3: be on your roster all the way until that moment.

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Speaker 3: So then then they've got Bayle Inspector who's not practicing,

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01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 3: Nick Morrow who's not practicing, and then Eddie Ulafocho just

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Speaker 3: got back on the field. So the linebackers have been

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01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 3: nicked up, so you don't want to bring in new linebackers,

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Speaker 3: try to get them up to speed because by the

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Speaker 3: time time you do, the guys who are hurt are

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Speaker 3: going to be eligible to come back and they're going

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Speaker 3: to feel good enough to come back, and you want

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Speaker 3: them to have the reps. So, yeah, they're not doing

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Speaker 3: anything at linebacker on their roster for the time being.

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Speaker 2: I don't think, yeah, in case you're just joining us.

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Speaker 2: The news did come down earlier this hour that Bill

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Speaker 2: starters are going to play a quarter and a half

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Speaker 2: tomorrow night against the Steelers. That includes Josh Allen. The

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Speaker 2: only thing that could compromise the amount of playing time

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Speaker 2: the starters get is some of the weather that's expected

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Speaker 2: to be here tomorrow, rain in the forecast, possible thunderstorm.

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Speaker 2: So I think if the footing on the field gets

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Speaker 2: a little treacherous, some of the starters may come out,

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Speaker 2: and I think Allan would probably be included in that number.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones at eight oh three five

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Speaker 2: point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two, five

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Speaker 2: point fifty on this OBL Friday fan mail bag and

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Speaker 2: we go to Patrick, who is here in Pennsylvania. What

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Speaker 2: I got for is Patrick, Hey.

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Speaker 8: Chris A, Steve, thanks a lot for kicking my call.

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Speaker 8: I really appreciate you guys, insight and whatnot. So the

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Speaker 8: first question I kind of had more about general offensive

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Speaker 8: philosophy question, especially regarding to how McDermott kind of brings

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Speaker 8: along rookies, especially I know James Cook when he was

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Speaker 8: a rookie, you know, Singletary was still on the roster,

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Speaker 8: and it's really apparent that that Cooked was just a

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Speaker 8: lot more explosive, had a lot more juice, and yeah,

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Speaker 8: he put the ball on the ground, and you know,

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Speaker 8: ball controls king and I get that, but at times

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Speaker 8: I really feel like Josh has needed as much juice

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Speaker 8: and uh explosiveness from the from the Skill skill guys

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Speaker 8: as he could get. And the way uh McDermott just

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Speaker 8: seems to want to slow roll the rookies all the

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Speaker 8: time is something that I personally don't agree with. Even

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Speaker 8: last year with Kinkaid before Knox went down, his usage

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Speaker 8: was was way down compared to what I expected it

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01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 8: to be. And I feel like, you bring these guys

1285
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 8: onto your team, you kind of have to baptism by

1286
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 8: Flayer a little bit and make packages for them and

1287
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 8: get them out onto the field and and you know,

1288
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 8: get them make them plays for you. It's just one

1289
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 8: thing that I don't necessarily agree with, and I have

1290
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 8: a feeling I think we might see more of the

1291
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 8: same with Keon Coleman this year, especially early in the year.

1292
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 8: I hope that's not the case. I hope Keon's out

1293
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 8: there running a large percentage of the route week one,

1294
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 8: but I think fans are probably gonna see a lot

1295
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 8: more Matt Collins than they're expecting, And that's not something

1296
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 8: that I would agree with. And Max a decent player,

1297
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 8: but I would really really hope that that Keon Keon

1298
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 8: is out there and running a lot of the routes.

1299
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,919
Speaker 8: They just kind of wanted to see your guys' viewpoint

1300
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 8: on that. And another thing I was I just wanted

1301
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 8: to bring up briefly is on this, maybe you think

1302
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 8: sometimes you know, they're loyal to a fault, to guys

1303
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 8: like Trey White and Milano and whatnot. You know, injuries

1304
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 8: are part of the game and it's a terrible thing,

1305
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 8: you know, and they're great play But I just kind

1306
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 8: of wanted to see what your guys' thoughts were on that.

1307
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 8: If you think maybe they're right and holding on to

1308
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 8: these guys, you know, for for a long time and

1309
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 8: getting them right, or if you know they would be

1310
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 8: more decisive in their decision making, you know, as far

1311
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 8: as moving on from and whatnot. Not saying that I

1312
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 8: think that should happen, but I'm just kind of wanted

1313
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 8: to see what you guys thought on that. Thanks for

1314
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 8: taking my call, and if there's anyway keep me on

1315
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 8: the line to hear your answer. I unfortunately don't get

1316
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 8: to listen live all the time. I'd really appreciate it,

1317
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 8: but that's that's what I had to ask.

1318
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:36,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no problem. I think your assessment is accurate.

1319
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 2: He has slow played rookies. There's a documented history of that.

1320
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 2: We thought that Kincaid was going to be an exception

1321
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 2: last year when we were watching him in training camp, Steve,

1322
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 2: because it was very clear they were fast tracking him

1323
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:53,759
Speaker 2: to get him on the field. He was getting almost

1324
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 2: exclusively reps with the ones all through training camp, and

1325
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 2: then they did kind of curtail his playing time through

1326
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 2: the first five or six weeks, and then Knox gets

1327
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 2: injured and all of a sudden, his playing time increases

1328
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 2: dramatically and he's a much bigger part of the offense.

1329
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 2: I will tell you Patrick, this year, coach McDermott may

1330
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 2: not have a choice at some positions. This is a

1331
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 2: much younger roster. Veterans have been turned over and are

1332
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 2: no longer here, and he may not have any other

1333
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 2: choice but to play younger players this season. I do

1334
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 2: share your same fear about more mac Collins than Keon Coleman.

1335
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 2: I think there will be a role for Coleman though

1336
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 2: in this offense. And the reason I say that, and

1337
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 2: Steve you can react to this, I think he's in

1338
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 2: the top three right now, and just by virtue of

1339
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 2: that fact, I don't see how you can keep him

1340
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 2: off the field.

1341
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, if he's not in the top three, he's close, right,

1342
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 3: So you're right. Last year we thought Ken Kid would

1343
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 3: get on the field. And certainly Sean McDermott does have

1344
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 3: that history. But it's been a pretty good history. They

1345
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 3: get out of the gates very quickly in the early

1346
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 3: in the season. I think they've been at least three

1347
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 3: and one all but one of his years here in Buffalo.

1348
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 3: That's big. As for being loyal to a fault to

1349
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 3: guys like Todavius White, I would say probably not. I

1350
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 3: might make a case for being just the opposite of

1351
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 3: that Toredavious White, Tremaine Edmonds, you know. And now if

1352
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 3: you're thinking along the same lines of that, even poor

1353
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 3: you're in Hyde, Poyer and Hyde are out the door.

1354
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 3: I'm I don't think this club because here's why. I

1355
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 3: think even when a player has been injured, particularly a

1356
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 3: guy who's played at an all pro level like Tredevius

1357
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 3: White and Matt Milano, even in this case, I think

1358
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 3: they do bring something other than just the production to

1359
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 3: the table. They bring certainly an example of the culture,

1360
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 3: certainly example of guys who earned what they've got, and

1361
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 3: that's always a plus in a locker room. And it's

1362
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 3: also you know, the intangibles of mentoring younger guys. There's

1363
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff coaches really like from veteran players

1364
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 3: that I think guys like those give you. But most

1365
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 3: of those guys, with the exception of Matt Milana, who

1366
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:43,440
Speaker 3: just got injured two days ago, they're gone and they

1367
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 3: were good until the end. Now, certainly they got all

1368
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 3: had their seasons cut short by an injury. But I

1369
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 3: think it's just the opposite of maybe what being loyal

1370
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 3: to a fault. I think they pay the right guys

1371
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 3: ed Oliver, epan Essa, Dawson Knox. They came in, they've done,

1372
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,759
Speaker 3: they did everything the team asked for. They're not making

1373
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 3: break the bank money, they're making good money, good money,

1374
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 3: they're not making superstar money. And I think those are

1375
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 3: the kind of that's the kind of example that I

1376
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 3: would point to as being Now, they're loyal to the

1377
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 3: right amount. They're not loyal to a fault, but they

1378
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 3: are loyal and I think that resonates with players in

1379
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 3: and out of the locker room.

1380
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think they're I don't know what the

1381
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 2: point of no return is when they decide, you know,

1382
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,600
Speaker 2: we do have to move on from this player. Tredevius

1383
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 2: White missed thirty games over the last three years. Matt

1384
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 2: Milano has a chance to miss thirty games in the

1385
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 2: last two seasons based on the prognosis of this current injury.

1386
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,679
Speaker 2: What does that mean. We'll have to wait and see.

1387
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 2: But I think they they weigh availability against cost, and

1388
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not going to pretend to know

1389
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 2: what that formula is, but it is clear when it

1390
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 2: reaches a certain point, they make a decision, and they

1391
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 2: make it decisively. And I think the same decision making

1392
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 2: process goes into putting rookies on the field. I think

1393
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 2: coach McDermott, we know, is a very methodical person and

1394
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 2: he rings out every ounce of analysis that he can

1395
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 2: in these decisions. They are not made without good reasons

1396
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 2: behind them. And I think part of the reason because

1397
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 2: I'll tell you and Patrick, I think you think enough

1398
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 2: of coach McDermott to know that he can see James

1399
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,839
Speaker 2: Cook is more talented than Devin Singletary, just as easily

1400
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 2: as anybody else. But that is not the only reason

1401
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 2: that factors into whether or not they should take the

1402
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 2: field ball security as you mentioned, came into play for

1403
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 2: Cook and that was still an issue for him last year.

1404
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 2: There are other issues. How much and how consistent are

1405
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 2: you in executing your asside sinnments. Can you pick up

1406
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 2: the blitz on third down? What is that player's level

1407
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 2: of confidence and if they make a big mistake in

1408
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 2: a big game because they're put on the field too early,

1409
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 2: how much is their confidence going to be shattered and

1410
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 2: need to be built back up again. Those are other

1411
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 2: things that coach McDermott factors into the equation, the character

1412
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 2: of the person and how they can handle adversity. So

1413
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 2: there's it's I think it just goes a lot deeper

1414
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 2: than simple playing ability and skill set. So don't feel

1415
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 2: like there isn't a reason that those guys don't play.

1416
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,919
Speaker 2: There invariably is and coach McDermott clearly thinks it's important

1417
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 2: enough to kind of wean them on too taking on

1418
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,919
Speaker 2: a bigger role for this team, whether it's off offense

1419
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 2: or defense. Hopefully that's a thorough enough answer for you.

1420
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 2: Eight h three zero five point fifty is the NUMBERY

1421
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,600
Speaker 2: get on board with us. In the meantime, we'll go

1422
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 2: back to the mailbag on the tweet sheet where Joseph says,

1423
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 2: with the rash of injuries this preseason, especially now to Milano,

1424
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 2: do you see being trying to make a move or

1425
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:08,719
Speaker 2: two to solidify his starting lineup? We kind of address that. Also,

1426
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 2: do you fear Milano becoming next year's Trey White? I

1427
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 2: think we just addressed that. I hope not. He is

1428
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 2: too good, But it is a business. You're right, Joseph,

1429
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 2: it is a business. We'll have to see. I think

1430
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 2: if he gets back at the end of the year,

1431
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 2: that will obviously shift probably the thought process on that

1432
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 2: if it's going that way. But really it's a wait

1433
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 2: and see for all of us on that front. Rick

1434
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 2: asks why are so many teams, the Bills being one

1435
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,759
Speaker 2: of them, so vehemently against being on HBO's Hard Knocks.

1436
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 2: I would think it would offer an excellent opportunity to

1437
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 2: gain new fans and sell team merchandise. Well, Rick, I

1438
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 2: think what's more important is their daily operation as a

1439
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 2: functional football team that wins football games, and if they

1440
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 2: believe the access provided to HBO's Hard Knocks compromises that

1441
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 2: they don't want to pull the curtain back.

1442
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Sean McDermott's side of the building are interested

1443
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 3: in winning football games. They'll get plenty of new fans

1444
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,600
Speaker 3: if they win football games, and they'll sell plenty of

1445
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 3: team merchandise if they win football games, and it will

1446
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 3: have nothing to do and they'll do it without being

1447
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 3: on hard knocks. Yeah, those guys. The distraction and the

1448
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 3: time that it takes. Even though the HBO people do

1449
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 3: a wonderful job of staying out of the way, they

1450
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 3: do a wonderful job of, you know, not getting things

1451
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 3: on the air that are compromising in nature. All of

1452
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 3: that stuff, it's still a wrench in the works for

1453
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 3: a lot of football teams, and some football teams just

1454
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 3: don't want the dynamics at the highest level of the

1455
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 3: organization on TV. I don't think this this covers. I

1456
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 3: don't think this is the Bills per se. But if

1457
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 3: you get a team with an with an owner like

1458
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 3: Dan Schneider, they don't want to they don't want that

1459
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 3: on TV. You know, some of that stuff's going on

1460
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 3: as well. So certainly I don't think that that's really

1461
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 3: what the Bills problem is. I think the Bills deal

1462
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 3: is just football side, but it's just a it's a

1463
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 3: distraction and it's it's a hassle for a lot of guy,

1464
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 3: or at least that's what they want.

1465
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 2: Well. See, it's another layer of responsibility for coach McDermot

1466
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 2: and Brandon Bean also because every week HBO's got to

1467
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 2: come to them and say, hey, are you good with

1468
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 2: all this? Can you sign off on this? And they

1469
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 2: got to sit with them and say, no, I don't

1470
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 2: want that in there. No, I don't want that in there.

1471
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 2: You got to pull that out because they don't want

1472
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:33,799
Speaker 2: that stuff getting now to the rest of the league.

1473
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 2: And so it's another layer that it's another layer of

1474
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 2: gatekeeping for your organization that perhaps they don't want to

1475
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 2: undertake as well. Let's go to Jason's question in the

1476
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 2: mail bag, which asks if Knox is out, who is

1477
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 2: going to be the backup behind kincaid go Bills. It's

1478
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 2: Quinn Morris. It's the guy that's been the back up

1479
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 2: the last few seasons. And you know, he's a guy

1480
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 2: that can do just about everything. I think he's a

1481
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 2: jack of all trades. I don't know that he's supremely

1482
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 2: excellent at any one skill, but he's a dang good

1483
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 2: all around tight end. I can do just about everything

1484
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:12,560
Speaker 2: for you.

1485
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 3: And we've been pumping the tires of Zach Davidson as well.

1486
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 3: He's a little bit more on the lines of Kingcaid only.

1487
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 3: Zach Davidson's really good in the passing game. Catches the

1488
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:28,520
Speaker 3: ball well, runs it well. He's got a huge physical

1489
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 3: skill set. He's sixty seven, two hundred and fifty pounds,

1490
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 3: but he plays at like a much smaller wide it's

1491
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 3: much smaller tight end. He's a pass catching route runner.

1492
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 3: He's not as good in the run game. They're not

1493
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 3: as good in the run game, I think as they'd

1494
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 3: like him to be. That's my take, but he would

1495
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,839
Speaker 3: probably be the third, the next guy on the roster anyway,

1496
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,799
Speaker 3: behind Quinton Morris and Trey McKitty.

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01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's kind of the answer to that one.

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01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 2: Connor asks two questions for me. One, do you both

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01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,600
Speaker 2: think we will see Malonell play another snap for Buffalo?

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01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 2: Starting to get Trey White vibes? Two? What are you

1501
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 2: most excited to see from the Bills this season? For me,

1502
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 2: it's that Josh doesn't have a true number one wide receiver.

1503
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,560
Speaker 2: All right, first question we kind of addressed. It's a

1504
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 2: wait and see if he comes back and plays in December.

1505
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 2: It kind of renders that question moot, at least as

1506
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned. Right, And then, Steve, do you

1507
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 2: have anything that you're most excited to see from the team.

1508
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 3: I want to see the I want to see the

1509
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 3: offense play and play well. I think this is an

1510
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 3: offense that's always to be good. They've got enough weapons.

1511
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:40,839
Speaker 3: The tight ends, the running backs and Khalil Shakir alone

1512
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 3: are enough to win games with. And what Keon cole

1513
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 3: Kean Coleman can bring you along with Curtis Samuel and

1514
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 3: Mac Hollins, I think they've got plenty plenty, and I

1515
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 3: think it's going to and I think their ability to

1516
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 3: run the football behind this offensive line is going to

1517
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 3: be really, really awesome. So I really think this offense

1518
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 3: is going to be able to command games and control

1519
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 3: games on both sides of the football. I'd like to

1520
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 3: And plus with Josh behind another year under his belt,

1521
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 3: coming out with this kind of vibe and this tool

1522
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,640
Speaker 3: set in the offense, with his second season and a

1523
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 3: full offseason under Joe Brady, Yeah, I'm excited to see

1524
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 3: him go out there and take the field.

1525
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say I'm probably most interested in specifically,

1526
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 2: the top four draft choices, Coleman, Bishop Carter Davis. I

1527
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 2: think all four, provided Cole Bisher gets healthy sooner rather

1528
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 2: than later, are going to have noticeable roles on this

1529
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 2: football team, and I want to see how much they

1530
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 2: can help stem the tide left behind by the veteran

1531
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 2: players who are no longer on this roster. Because I

1532
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 2: remember what Brandon Bean's said after Stefan Diggs was traded,

1533
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 2: We've got to nail this draft. And I like a

1534
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 2: lot of the picks in this draft. Heck, I'm giddy

1535
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 2: about a lot of the fifth round picks. When you're

1536
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:17,719
Speaker 2: talking about Cedric Van Pray, Grainger and Javon Solomon. I mean, yeah,

1537
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 2: this is some good players you got on Day three.

1538
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 2: But the top four picks specifically are the players that

1539
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 2: I'm really intrigued to see how they come along as

1540
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 2: rookies and going back to Patrick's question on the phone,

1541
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 2: how quickly can they be acclimated into the respective offensive

1542
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,879
Speaker 2: and defensive systems and then contribute and make a difference

1543
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 2: for this team because they are going to need players

1544
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 2: that are typically younger than the usual stock that they've

1545
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 2: relied on in the past to make a difference if

1546
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 2: they're going to be as competitive as they've been in

1547
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 2: recent years.

1548
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:57,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with that. I'm it's always fun

1549
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 3: to see new players come on to the team and

1550
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 3: to see him flourish. Certainly, that's the part of the

1551
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 3: fun of being a fan year over years, seeing the

1552
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 3: new guys and growing accustomed to them. I'm kind of

1553
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 3: with you. I think I'm kind of thinking Cole Bishop

1554
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 3: might turn into be a pretty good player. Don't ask

1555
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 3: me why I'm thinking that. I'm just thinking because of

1556
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 3: the fact that he was out there, he's getting good

1557
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 3: reps before he got his shoulder bang, and I just

1558
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 3: think it's a perfect opportunity for a kid like him

1559
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 3: to come in and flourish. Cedric Van Praank Granger, he

1560
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 3: may not play a snap for the Buffalo Bills this year,

1561
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 3: he strikes me as a fifteen year pro, you know

1562
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 3: what I mean, Just a guy that's just it just

1563
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 3: knows how to make a football team and knows how

1564
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 3: to make it better and always has a spot on

1565
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 3: a roster. I don't know that it'll ever be an

1566
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 3: All Pro or a Pro Bowl or any of that stuff,

1567
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 3: but man, Oman, that guy strikes me as a guy

1568
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 3: who is just you know, always on the roster, never

1569
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 3: goes anywhere, and he'll quit playing football when he wants to,

1570
01:28:59,160 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 3: not when they tell him.

1571
01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 2: He done great time for us here when Steve and

1572
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 2: I come back. Some final questions out of the mail bag.

1573
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 2: You're on One Bill's Live. Stay with us all right

1574
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 2: back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker.

1575
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 2: Question from Fluffy Cat Steve, how are kJ Hamler and

1576
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 2: Justin Shorter doing? I do have to tell you Shorter

1577
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 2: just came back from injury, so he hasn't done much yet,

1578
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:39,640
Speaker 2: but tonight's an opportunity.

1579
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 3: That's right, kJ Hamler. It's all coming gonna come down

1580
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 3: to this. Is he their best option at punt returner,

1581
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 3: kick returner? They gotta have. They got kick returners now

1582
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 3: a bigger, a bigger role because you're gonna return more

1583
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 3: kicks this year, and you got to have a guy.

1584
01:29:56,840 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 3: So if Camler, if Hamler is the guy, that's his

1585
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 3: ticket to be an honest football team. And that not

1586
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 3: the wide receiver aspect of it.