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Speaker 1: Advice, sugar spice. It's time nice Rove Levelo. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Naughty Naisham your house rom Shooters Wednesday, which means

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Speaker 1: one of our favorite people is back after a few

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Speaker 1: weeks away, very sloppy work behavior. I'm gonna be calling Hr,

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Speaker 1: Donny Meacham, Are you the.

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Speaker 2: Well level level level?

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Speaker 1: I think?

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Speaker 2: To be honest, I mean I've been here since the

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Speaker 2: fun the beginning. I might be hr. I think I'm

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Speaker 2: the one that created this thing. I might be Hr.

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Speaker 1: You are who are you gonna get all that sad

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Speaker 1: head of creative content? You are editor in chief, You

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Speaker 1: are security, and you also are the stylist for the

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Speaker 1: Naughty Lovely Lovely Lovely. Okay, let's jump in the show.

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Speaker 1: What time is it, my friends? It is tea time.

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Speaker 1: So the Today Show are begging Hoder to come back.

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Speaker 1: If you remember yesterday, Hoder appeared on The Today Show

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Speaker 1: to plug her new book and this retreat that she's

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Speaker 1: doing that actually isn't selling that well, that's why she's

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Speaker 1: out there plugging the retreat. But she has her book

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Speaker 1: out and at first the Today Show were unsure whether

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Speaker 1: or not they wanted her because they didn't want the

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Speaker 1: audience to actually realize what they have been missing. Well,

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Speaker 1: they did. Holder was on. I watched it. It was

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Speaker 1: pure pleasure, Donnie. They're just she's just so good at this.

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Speaker 1: She is just meant to do this. She's funny, she's willy,

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Speaker 1: she's charming, she is morning TV. Well. Now, behind the scenes,

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Speaker 1: executives are asking the beloved anchor sixty one years old,

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Speaker 1: who walked away in January after twenty six years, twenty

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Speaker 1: six years at NBC, if she would consider, maybe, sort of,

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Speaker 1: maybe possibly coming back to the show. I don't think

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Speaker 1: she'll be back full time, Donnie, but having her on

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Speaker 1: every so often, maybe once a month, maybe once a week,

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Speaker 1: if she will do it will help. Ratings have softened.

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Speaker 1: But worse than that, Donnie, there's no buzz. Nobody is

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Speaker 1: talking about the Today Show. I don't know if anybody

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Speaker 1: is talking about morning TV generally. Let's be honest here.

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Speaker 1: It's not like the Today Show fell off the grid.

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Speaker 1: Nobody cares that much about these network shows. And so,

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Speaker 1: looking back to the Holder and Kaffee lead Day So Delicious,

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Speaker 1: I understand why executives are doing it, but let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: If they hired Hoder and Kathie lead back. It wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be the same. We've moved on, times have changed. So

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Speaker 1: I do get the nostalgia. I do get wanting to

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Speaker 1: make Dare I say that today's show great again? It's

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Speaker 1: just not possible. It has changed. Hold her back for

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Speaker 1: a couple of hours, for ritually twenty minutes, delicious, thoroughly

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it. But I don't think she's coming back. And

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Speaker 1: even if she did, donnay, you can't capture magic in

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Speaker 1: a bottle twice. What do you thinks?

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Speaker 2: See, that's the thing that it would look like they

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Speaker 2: you know, we're trying to get it back. It would

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Speaker 2: look very forced. Because Hoda made it very clear when

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Speaker 2: she left she was ready to go. I'dan been there

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Speaker 2: for a really long time, but she was just like, y'all.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is Layman's terms. I'm really narrowing it down,

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Speaker 2: paraphrasing y'all. I'm getting old and I want to spend

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Speaker 2: time with my kids and I don't want to wake

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Speaker 2: And so I think to try and get her to

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Speaker 2: changed people, I think this is what has changed. When

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Speaker 2: you know COVID hit two is our viewpoint of you know,

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Speaker 2: meeting people in studio all the time has changed. People

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Speaker 2: they were like, we'll come to your house, we'll build

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Speaker 1: I do a ton of interviews ever zoom and occasionally.

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Speaker 1: Last night they wanted me to go into the studio

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Speaker 1: and I was like, can I it from a room?

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Speaker 1: And I did do it. I sucked it up. I

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Speaker 1: position to be. And because often when you leave a jarm,

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Speaker 1: to Donnie, when we break up with somebody, when it's over,

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Speaker 1: And it was a tough job getting up that early

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Speaker 1: When I'd see hod around, she'd always have to leave early.

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Speaker 1: get why she doesn't want this life anymore. I get

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Speaker 1: why they want her. She truly is very very special

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Speaker 1: at this but I don't think it's gonna happen, Which

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Speaker 1: brings us to our pale question of the day, a

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Speaker 1: poll question of the day holder. They are begging Coder

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Speaker 1: to come back. They are begging Coder to come back

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Speaker 1: to the show, to the Today Show. Will she do it?

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Speaker 1: Yes or no? What do you think will hold a

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Speaker 1: return to the Today's Show. Yes or no go? Vote

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow to hear your results. Hey, Donny Love, what

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Speaker 1: are you working on? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Let's get messy. Just want to be thought the Blake

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Speaker 2: Justin's stuff was winded down its back And this is

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Speaker 2: a little shooter scoop. Taylor Swift. Obviously whatever Taylor. Whenever

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Speaker 2: you say Taylor, we all know is Taylor Swift. Now,

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift wants out of the Blake Lively lawsuit drama.

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Speaker 2: A source tells a shooter scoop she's.

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Speaker 1: Done with it.

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Speaker 2: Taylor never wanted to be part of this fight, and

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Speaker 2: now she's just hoping it's over soon. Because here's the problem.

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Speaker 2: Justin's people keep bringing her in because Justin's people swear

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Speaker 2: there's these texts between Taylor and Blake in that Blake

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Speaker 2: And it's like, I just here's the thing about all that.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think Calor has time you know, I'm saying, like,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, but I do think Blake still

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Speaker 1: sort of threatened it. All of course I do that

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Speaker 1: very disappointed with you, Donnie if you miss another Naughty

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Speaker 1: but nine show, But in reality, they don't care. They

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Speaker 1: only care about themselves. And so I do think Blake

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Speaker 1: probably oversold her friendship with Taylor. They were very close friends,

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Speaker 1: and so I think sometimes be careful when you use

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Speaker 1: for you. And so threatening that Taylor Swift is her

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Speaker 1: dragon and that's a reference to Game of Thrones was

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Speaker 1: sort of a silly thing to do. Blake's for this

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Speaker 1: justin did not bring Taylor Swift into this battle. He

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Speaker 1: did not. It is Blake that dragged her into this battle.

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Speaker 1: I think after we were talking about this on yesterday's podcast,

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Speaker 1: somebody got arrested at her house trying to subpoena her.

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Speaker 1: They were there with paperwork to serve her documents, and

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Speaker 1: they jumped a fence. And it's just also messy, messy, messy.

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Speaker 1: Anybody that knows Taylor Swift, that has worked with her,

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Speaker 1: opposite of messy. She's really buttoned up, she's really really disciplined.

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Speaker 1: She does not like this messiness. And now she has

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Speaker 1: people crawling around Travis Kelsey's backyard trying to subpoena her

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Speaker 1: or give her documents. No, no, no, she wants this over.

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Speaker 1: The problem is she doesn't get to decide when it

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Speaker 1: is over. A judge gets to decide that Blake's not

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Speaker 1: dropping this just in his fighting back, this is gonna

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Speaker 1: In new documents new memos that were filed yesterday, Sean's

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Speaker 1: So if he gets fourteen months, he's already served thirteen months,

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Speaker 1: So he will be out in a month. His legal

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Speaker 1: that you have a very sharp legal mind. I know

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Speaker 1: when I think of Donnie Meacham, I think of legally

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Speaker 1: think Donny puts your legal hat on? How long will

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Speaker 2: Now, look, I want to preface this. What did he

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Speaker 2: did was horrifying and awful, but he was only found

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Speaker 2: guilty of two counts of prostitution. Now I do I

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Speaker 2: just don't think we you know, we we don't look

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Speaker 2: I agree with his lawyers. But I think it's a

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Speaker 2: good thing is that his career is over.

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Speaker 1: Did he is done?

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Speaker 2: He might work behind the scenes on some things. He might,

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Speaker 2: but also did he have his money is dried up?

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Speaker 2: Is drying up because he's spent a lot, a lot

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Speaker 2: will have to pay. He's had to pay his lifestyle

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Speaker 1: Is not cheap ye career. He supports that whole family,

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Speaker 1: his mom, his family, He's paying for all those tricks there.

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Speaker 1: I say, no shame, he could have a comeback. There

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Speaker 2: you know, seeing James and seeing what's happening, can you

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Speaker 1: You Rob, you gotta rob. Life is about choices, So

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Speaker 1: choose resentment Johnnie, or you can choose love. Happiness. It's

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Speaker 1: now let me hear you singing along. If you're going

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