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Speaker 1: origional pockets Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered special show for you today,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. As our two dads are away, kid

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Speaker 1: wasn't born for for eighty five obviously, but the Packers

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl parcels is is much to blame. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Reggie White, like, can we we don't put a tight

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Speaker 1: end over there chip them. This is all retroactive every because, however,

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Speaker 1: you in ninety six so mad about like you're kicking off.

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Speaker 1: People are around me and I'm just like telling them that,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're idiots or whatever. I was born like this.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry for Patty hold On. I'm sure he's dying

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Speaker 1: to talk to the B squad. Charlie Gambino is like

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Speaker 1: a renaissance man. This is America? Was that his last one? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah see, I'm hipp oh chips the dessert though, chip

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Speaker 1: snack sandwich. It's empty bullshitt her first wear crap. This

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Speaker 1: is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan All right, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Patriots unfiltered. Wow, I go away and you guys are

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Speaker 1: just wearing it up and say the more frunken sailors.

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Speaker 1: I know that's the moral. Yeah, I can't trust Alice.

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Speaker 1: The adults leave the room and what happens. I know,

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Speaker 1: But you guys held a ship that fourth down. I

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Speaker 1: guess tried Uncle Mike. That wasn't it was the dad's

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Speaker 1: are gone. But I didn't feel like the kid. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not young. You're not. I'm like, you

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Speaker 1: know you're not. Well, it's Deuce, it's to marry, it's Evan,

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Speaker 1: it's Paul, it's me to marry. Is right? I believe

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Speaker 1: I heard you say that chips are a snack dessert.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely definitely. Circle gets a square Chris, the webmasters in

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Speaker 1: the booth. Because Matt Morrell is in a well deserved vacation.

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Speaker 1: I hope he didn't go to Afghanistan. It doesn't sound

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Speaker 1: like he's enjoying it though. I just saw him tweet

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Speaker 1: something that said he didn't go back to the minutes

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Speaker 1: to work. Think some things out. It's three hours ago.

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Speaker 1: He says. I hate that I'm on vacation with you

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Speaker 1: who he was a marine. I hope he didn't go

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Speaker 1: back to I don't know. I think he's okay though

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Speaker 1: he's near a pool. Now we're tracking him. He's he's

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Speaker 1: reading a Daredevil comic by the pool. He's a Dubaie. Good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: turn turn your microphone on, Evan, Chris make Audrey, says Fred, Fred,

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Speaker 1: Please teach Duce how to read emails. Thursday's show was

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Speaker 1: a meltdown for some reason. Mike can't host and read

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Speaker 1: at the same time. When he does read, it's very

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Speaker 1: fast and breathy, sometimes with a nervous laugh. He's skimming

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Speaker 1: the content like a speed reader and not even saying

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Speaker 1: all the printed words. Then he immediately answers and gives

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Speaker 1: his opinions first, rather than letting the group chime in.

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Speaker 1: He could catch his breath and then at his thoughts.

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Speaker 1: It's like a hyper puppy who can't calm down around

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Speaker 1: stranger's type of feeling. Who's this? This is? Are for

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Speaker 1: new Hamshire? Go back. I can listen and you'll know

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Speaker 1: immediately what I mean. Other than this issue, Mike has

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Speaker 1: been a great addition. I think Audio's totally right, but

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Speaker 1: she's now my enemies. Listening. I'm looking forward to another

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Speaker 1: round of epic draft shows. Love the show, loyal twelve

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Speaker 1: year listener. That's good. She's right. I appreciate the constructive criticism,

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Speaker 1: certainly do well because sometimes you start to read, you're like,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing in this email, and then you have to

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Speaker 1: to make fun of Fred when he's not paying attention

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Speaker 1: to what we're saying, he's generally reading the email setting

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Speaker 1: up the next one. Yeah, he's facilitating like a ball,

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Speaker 1: like a ball distributor. You know, I got but a

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Speaker 1: little inside baseball. We've been busy this week filming something

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Speaker 1: that's what you can say. Let's just say. Deuce and

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Speaker 1: his director chair with sunglasses has been the highlights. I

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Speaker 1: you know Martin Scorsese on sets. Yeah, that's right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I need more. It was great, it's been good. It's

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Speaker 1: You'll see it in a couple of months. Yeah, certain,

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Speaker 1: of moving pieces, a lot of patriots, former patriots, current

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Speaker 1: future patriots. Come on, man, you're you're like the people

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Speaker 1: who like look at the spoilers online. Yeah, what do

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Speaker 1: He's the kid that you don't tell about the surprise

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Speaker 1: they don't want me anywhere near this shoot. I don't

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Speaker 1: I'm just they told me, Oh, we don't need you.

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Speaker 1: Just just go be on radio next week. You're fine, person.

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Speaker 1: You stick to the draft. Yeah, stick to the draft.

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Speaker 1: I know your strains, all right, So what do we

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Speaker 1: got going here? Everybody? I feel like we're in like

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Speaker 1: aren't really a lot of personnel moves. OBJ. We could

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Speaker 1: This is where rumors just go and that's all you're

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Speaker 1: that point where it's like, you know, twenty seven teams

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Speaker 1: strongly about will levis right? Or stronger class than last

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton. Cam Newton's floor was probably a lot higher

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Speaker 1: chance CJ. Stroud is the first quarterback picked? Sure? I

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Speaker 1: who was. Yeah, it's going to be a tough like

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Speaker 1: and everyone's mock drafts. They've been flipping back and forth,

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Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth. So should be interesting,

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Speaker 1: but it just feels like there's so much put on

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Speaker 1: as absolutely in love with CJ. Strout, you know what

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Speaker 1: I just think the value of quarterbacks now and how

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Speaker 1: now it's what's gonna happen, Who's gonna trade up, who's

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. And so for them, you're saying you'd

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Speaker 1: interested in everybody, you know, Yeah, every team is intrigued

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Speaker 1: by him. He's the best player in the draft. Like

422
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Speaker 1: if you're if you're watching any of these guys, and

423
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: you're not, and you don't watch Bijean Robinson, you're like,

424
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: holy crap. He forced one hundred and four miss tackles

425
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 1: last year at Texas. One hundred and four, Like that's insane.

426
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how that trans can catch the ball.

427
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm interested to see how that translates over

428
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: just because Big twelve defense is trash, Like you don't

429
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 1: play defense, you play offense. If you look at those

430
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 1: scores in all the Big twelve games and fairness, defense

431
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: is trash horrible like Baylor, West Virginia, Texas. Those scores

432
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: are like sixty and the fifties, Like that's not normal.

433
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: The one hesitation that I did have it was against Alabama,

434
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 1: which is the best team that he played last year.

435
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 1: They were he was twenty one for seventy or something

436
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: like that. So that that's in Alabama wasn't even great

437
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 1: defensive my last year, right, not Alabama greet their offensive line. Texas'

438
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: offensive line got dominated at the point of attack, and

439
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: even a running back as good as Bijean Robinson can't

440
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 1: run through three people at the line of scrimmage. And

441
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 1: he didn't have the best game. Now, he did catch,

442
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, three passes for like seventy yards on top

443
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: of the seventy one yards that he rushed for. But

444
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: one of those things with UM with Robinson, and I understand, like,

445
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: I think he's a really good player. I'm not telling

446
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: you say Quon Barkley stunk coming out or Christian mckett.

447
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: Those guys are really really good players, and they're good

448
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 1: NFL players when they're healthy. Um, I hate the notion of,

449
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, why not just you know, pass on Bijon

450
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: Robinson a way to round or two. And but in

451
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Speaker 1: that case we're a running back, I would pass on

452
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Speaker 1: Bijean Robinson. And you know, if I really needed a

453
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Speaker 1: running back, take Jamir Gibbs somewhere later in the dress,

454
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Speaker 1: you know or whatever. I don't think the running back

455
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Speaker 1: is a need. I'm with Evan. I think it's probably

456
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Speaker 1: if it's not the least need, you know, the smallest

457
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: need on the on the roster, it's it's in a

458
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: oh yeah, next one up. No, I agree. I'm just

459
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Speaker 1: I'm playing devil's advocate here, trying to, you know, if

460
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Speaker 1: there's any opening there for taking him. If we have

461
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Speaker 1: Stevenson that you feel good about, you know, and Robinson

462
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: yeah strong, Kevin Harris, and then I don't know where

463
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,239
Speaker 1: to sort of slot in Tie Montgomery. There's a lot

464
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: of teams that would say that's a that's a pretty

465
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: good wide receiver running back room, Like, why do I

466
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Speaker 1: need to draft one one day one or even even

467
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Speaker 1: early day two. Yeah, that's why I think Gibbs was.

468
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Speaker 1: I mean, somebody that Evan and I, you know, talked

469
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Speaker 1: about just coming from Alabama, a little bit more of

470
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Speaker 1: that threat in the passing game. That's the only thing

471
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Speaker 1: in the late round guys. Maybe a developmental pass catcher. Yeah,

472
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Speaker 1: I'm all for like a Deuce Vaughn in like the

473
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Speaker 1: fourth or fifth round. N Yeah, you know, I And

474
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Speaker 1: in all fairness, I think you know, when you look

475
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Speaker 1: at the needs, I mean, i'd have to take a

476
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Speaker 1: tackle over running back in the first round, you know.

477
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Speaker 1: Just Mike agrees to disagree. Okay, Now, Evan and I

478
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Speaker 1: believe that tackle, you know, and you know what it is.

479
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Speaker 1: You know what it is. I have to It's it's

480
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Speaker 1: just it's kind of like to take when you're like me, no,

481
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: it's kind of like draft. You're just like, you know,

482
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: it's draft fatigue, and you're just I'm just like, I

483
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: don't like to go Christmas right. I don't want to

484
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: walk out to the fields and out on the field again.

485
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 1: I want to see freaking Zave Flowers come out and

486
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: everybody is just like, let's go, instead of like great,

487
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: we gotta tackle for the next six seconds. You just

488
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: gotta look I Zay Flowers. You know my feelings on him.

489
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: But if they got if they got Paris Johnson or

490
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Speaker 1: Roderick Jones, you know, I'd be breaking down. I'd be excited.

491
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And I mean guys are to your point,

492
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: like those guys are like just their presence alone, Like

493
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: you would look at Paris Johnson walking out there and

494
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh, boy, like this guy looks just

495
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: like a mountain of a man who you know can

496
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Speaker 1: do it all. So I get that part of it.

497
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: I'll get crazy. You know. We'll be looking at this

498
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: stuff for a couple of months now, and you're like,

499
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: I just tell me who we got. Give me the

500
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Speaker 1: eleven guys, Like I just let's dive in on them

501
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: and move forward, get into OTAs and all that. I'm

502
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: getting little, im getting a little you know, aunty about

503
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna be eleven guys. I can guarantee more

504
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Speaker 1: or less, but it won't be eleven. I think it'll

505
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: be less. You're wrong. I don't know why, but it won't.

506
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 1: They won't stay put. It'll end up being more or less.

507
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: If you could get that to nine or fewer. Yeah, yeah,

508
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: see that's what Jeff's kiss. That's what dude started doing

509
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: in this mock drafts. So I'm like, well, what if

510
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: I just traded three picks up and then I only

511
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: have four more PA? That's lazy, all right. Five five

512
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: past five hundred is the ACE ticket hotline. Web radio

513
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: at Patriots dot com is the email address. These mac

514
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: rumors keep going on, but I think at this point

515
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: it's just like, Okay, what can I add to the

516
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: story to get people to read this post? You know,

517
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: it's really not adding any information or anything like that.

518
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: I remain sort of intrigued by the lack of a

519
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: local reporter who strongly has comments saying why it's all

520
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: bunk right, mildly intrigued by the fact that we really

521
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 1: haven't had that strong rebuttal and I know that there

522
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: have been some I think Greg Baddard, I think Jeff

523
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 1: Howe have said it's not it's not accurate, but but

524
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: with no real substance. When you say, what's the trading,

525
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: he's being the whole. He's the whole. Post by Florio

526
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: on about the fact that he was shopped. Yeah, the

527
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: best we could come, you know, was the Michael Lombardi

528
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: response on his GM podcast GM Shuffle podcast, where kind

529
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: of used a semantic argument if you asked me, yep,

530
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: the difference between shopping and listening, right, yeah, and I

531
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: just you know, and I have some of the quotes.

532
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: We can get to it later. We don't have to

533
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: bog it down. But my feeling and Fred and I

534
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: talked about this a little yesterday guys. He said, you know,

535
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,719
Speaker 1: it's not really shopping, it's listening. And there was one

536
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: one particular line that he used that um that I

537
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: thought was really odd. He's like, you know, so, okay,

538
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: so if if someone calls and they say, what do

539
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna move, Mac, you know what do

540
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: you offer? And he and Michael Lombardi is because every

541
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: player is available, right, And I'm like, I don't know,

542
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrences. Do you make people will calling Doug Peterson

543
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: and saying, you know what do you what do you

544
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: give me? What can I What can I give you?

545
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: For Trevor Lawrence? Like they're hanging up the phone, They're

546
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: not listening. Not forget it, like I purposely didn't use

547
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Barter, Like those guys are

548
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: off the table, forget it. Like same situation. Entering the

549
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: third year, Trevor Lawrence had one sort of social year

550
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: and one pretty good year, just like Mac Jones. Right,

551
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: do you think Doug Peterson is listening to someone who

552
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: what do you give me for Trevor Lawrence? No, he's

553
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: not available. Not every player is available? Right at that position,

554
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: Partici tells me there's something to it and I and

555
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: I was really intrigued with Lombardi as he continued to

556
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: quote unquote shoot down the reports. Did you did you

557
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: guys listen to the rest of it? That's the money

558
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: quote with regard to the you know whether or not

559
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: he was being shopped. He says he wasn't being shopped,

560
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: but then he started talking to him about some of

561
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: the late tackling stuff on the field that didn't endear

562
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: himself to with his teammates either. So he's going to

563
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: have to cover that up. He's going to have to

564
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: show that he's mature too. Where is this coming from

565
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: other than Bill's mouth? Like that was a thing during

566
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: the season where like idiots like us talk about like

567
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: did did he slide? Like did he go? Like that

568
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: was that clead up against Chicago when he made the

569
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: safety jump over him? And you know when he tried

570
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: to take Eli Apple's legs out on that return that

571
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: ended up getting called back? Was that kind of cheap?

572
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: We talk about that stuff, and like months later, Michael

573
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: Lombardio is throwing that into as an example of why

574
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: Mac Jones needs to mature. Yeah, I'd forgotten about that,

575
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: but you know it was an issue back then. Oh yeah,

576
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: But obviously it doesn't matter if it's an issue with

577
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: us back I know it was an issue with Bill, Yeah,

578
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: which is kind of where we how we arrived here

579
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: in the first place, is people think there's static between

580
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: Bill and Mac. Yeah, and I've seen nothing to dispute well,

581
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: and it'd be so easy. I mean Bill has been

582
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: asked multiple times, is he the guy? I mean, it's

583
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: just be easy to be like, he's our guy. We

584
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: love him like, I mean, he could easily well. One

585
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: thing I did last year, one thing I will this time.

586
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: I'll defend the Patriots, and you know, in particularly in

587
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: specifically the Florio report. If I was the Patriots, I

588
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: would not send out a statement or anything disputing that.

589
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get in the business knowledge I

590
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not going to get I know, but

591
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into the business of disputing

592
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: rumors because then when I don't do it, my silence

593
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: says more than you know. So I don't address those things.

594
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: I agree you don't. We don't need a statement addressing that.

595
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: You do just the same thing you do when you

596
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: say that you're twenty seventh and spending that's different than

597
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: Bill a little bit of a stir. Yeah, you go

598
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: to the guy that you think will get that message

599
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: out for you when you say that's that we didn't

600
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: mean anything and and and that's different than Bill endorsing Mac.

601
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: That's a whole different thing, you know. But but in

602
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,719
Speaker 1: terms of that specific report, I would not go out

603
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: and the Patriots are you know, are not shopping back

604
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: and no uncertain terms, you know, I would not that.

605
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: We don't need that. Yeah, this is my least favorite

606
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: part of the off season. Yeah, drama and all this. Oh,

607
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: come on, you're no fun. I still feel fun when

608
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: it comes to this no fun Lazarre Frank, I like

609
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: minutes yesterday. I'm with Paul. I'm definitely intrigued by the

610
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: report um one, because we saw how unhappy he was.

611
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: I mean plenty of times, whether it's you know, yelling

612
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: on the sidelines, frustrated things like that happening on the field.

613
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised and allegedly calling Alabama to get

614
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: help with the offense. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised

615
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: if he popped up at the Raiders. I wouldn't be surprised.

616
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: Just let me know who's going to be the quarterback

617
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: in week one. I wouldn't be surprised back, so okat No,

618
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: on the other side, I don't like I Also in

619
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: a sense you have coaches who say, like, this person's

620
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: our guy, and then two days later they have a

621
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Speaker 1: whole new quarterbright. You don't believe it, Mary, They're called

622
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: sports Live. Yep, Yep, he's our yep. Just real quick

623
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: that i'd see Jeff Acuta got traded for a fifth

624
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: rounder seeing some people say wow, I guess I mean

625
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: Bernard saying guest Patricia didn't recommend him to Belichick at

626
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: that price? What what went wrong with Jeff Acuda third

627
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: overall pick? Right, couldn't play? It's just not good. He

628
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: wasn't good even coming out. I don't know he was

629
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: a good college play, but do you have you have

630
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: spidy sense. He might some injuries also, I think in

631
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: his in his NFL career, some serious ones. If I

632
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: remember get traded Atlanta, Atlanta interesting a lot, just doing

633
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: some some things considering a need. And if that is

634
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: Desmond Ridgerd can play um to fund one of the

635
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's a terrible division. That could be one

636
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: of those teams that might open right next year. Yeah,

637
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: but I want to play. I want to pick the

638
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: scab with Evan. Okay, come out, because I think you

639
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: just said something that sort of lens Cretans. So it like,

640
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: just let me know who the quarterback is next year.

641
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: So you don't know, right, so there's at least some

642
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: doubt and you're not on right. Oh, I'm not saying

643
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: that there's okay, So that's you'd have to have your

644
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: head in the sand if you thought that there wasn't

645
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: at least an inkling of possibility that that let's just

646
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: say that, not even the trade rumors, that they're just

647
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: not sold on the quarterback, like you'd literally have to say.

648
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be like this earth shattering, Oh

649
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: they're shopping mac Jones. No one suggested they're walking around

650
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: with a picture of mac Jones with a four sale

651
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: sign overs it might be, well, but there's, like Evan

652
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: just put it, there's there's some uncertainty there. They're not sold.

653
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: I mean, to your point, Paul, if you flipped Trevor

654
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: Lawrence's seasons, wouldn't be crazy though, right If like people

655
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: started calling from him on that, well, that's different. Help

656
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: that he's on that different he's going on he's going

657
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,719
Speaker 1: I also think Trevor Lawrence was also in an awful

658
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: situation and everything, and I just don't think that mac

659
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: Jones was in an awful situation. I don't think it

660
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: was ideal with his offensive coordinator. But he had the

661
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: Patriots organization with Bill Belichick as opposed to lose an

662
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: organization like Jacksonville with Urban Meyer. I also think Trevor

663
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: Lawrence all around is a better player and more mature

664
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: than Mac Jones. Well, he's definitely a better player, yea

665
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: better player. On this show when they were both rookies,

666
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: people like jumped down my throat because I'd say I'll

667
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: take Trevor Lawrence right now. Even all rookie years, Fred

668
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: kept saying, I'd still so much better on this show.

669
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm not making fun of Fred. There's people who would

670
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: you take No, could Lawrence not serious? Right? Oh no?

671
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: I was no, No, No, you're serious? Yeah. I mean

672
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: the people say, oh no, because if you remember, at

673
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: the time, Trevor Lawrence did not look good. He had

674
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: a time, but I knew he was better. Yeah, ye,

675
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: all he needed was some coaching and right, yes, yeah Lawrence,

676
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and the like incomparable like I will continue

677
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: to say there is nothing about Mac Jones. If I'm

678
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: a defense that makes me say I'm worried Trevor Lawrence

679
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: plenty to say listen, I give you right now. Three

680
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 1: first round picks for Trevor Lawrence. I would. I don't

681
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: know about that. I would, but I would take I

682
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: just think on me, I don't value the picks. I

683
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: just think. I just think eventually he'll be talked in

684
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: the same circles as Joe Burrow and Josh Allen. I

685
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: think eventually he will unless Jacksonville, I don't think. I

686
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: don't think that's a crazy thought. He's he's your franchise quarterback,

687
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: and I think that's worth three first round picks. I

688
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: gotta say, he really impressed me in the playoff game,

689
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: playing so badly for a half and then putting it

690
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: behind him. I think that's the hardest, the hardest conditions

691
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: to succeed in. I always used to say, and that's

692
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: a coming out sign for a quota. Used to say,

693
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: like when I when I played baseball, I would always say, yeah,

694
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: I pitch well today. Anybody can pitch well when they're pitching, Well, yeah,

695
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: what do you do when you don't have it right?

696
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: You're s how did that response where you can't put

697
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: the ball where you wanted? Do you find a way

698
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: to get some outs? Get from the game, right? That's

699
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: what That's what Trevor Lawrence did in that playoff game.

700
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: He didn't have it and he found a way. Yeah,

701
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: that's what we haven't seen for Mac at all, Like

702
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: can you fight through adversity? Do you have grit? Do

703
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: you have like just anything that can allow you to

704
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: not have you know, the season that he did last year,

705
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 1: like Alabama for example, he played their prime Georgia being great,

706
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: prime LSU being great, and so I feel like he

707
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: really didn't have that level of competition where he had

708
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: to come back from being down twenty points. I threw

709
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 1: five interceptions the first half. He never had to come

710
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: back from that the whole time he was there. I

711
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: think for two with with Trevor Lawrence, it's kind of

712
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: lining up for him in the AFC South that if

713
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: he really is that guy, there's no real excuse with

714
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: Indianapolis or Houston he had to like like Tennessee like,

715
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: I mean, like we'll see, we'll see, because I think

716
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: that those two teams, um, I mean, I think Tennessee

717
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: is a different animal because they're clearly in transition. But

718
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: the other two are gonna try, they're gonna try to

719
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: find their quarterbacks. And I would say Houston in particular.

720
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: I think it's done a decent job of sort of

721
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: turning over that roster where they could be interesting if

722
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: they can get serviceable play now I think it Davis

723
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: Mills to me is mac Jones. I think he's thoroughly

724
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: adequate and his adequosity as I like to say, I

725
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: think you can be fine with him, but you're not

726
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: going anywhere with him. So I think they need better

727
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: than that. And I don't know, we'll see if did

728
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: they take C. J. Strout into Stroud Hit, Yeah, that

729
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: could be a team that could be a good battle

730
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: with you know, Stroud and Lawrence say the next five years,

731
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: six years, that would be fun to watch to see

732
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: if the Packers would trade up and take a quarterback,

733
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: because I mean they're saying Jordan loves our guy obviously,

734
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: but I'm like, do they believe that or are they

735
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: going to try to get another one? Yeah? Do they

736
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: have the resources to get another one? That's that's that's

737
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: very You can't do that if you're there, that'd be

738
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: to me fireable, Like you did all of this to

739
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: push Aaron Rodgers out and now you don't like the

740
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: guy you took toy. Maybe you'll always had the plan

741
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: to move up and get another guy. That was your plan.

742
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: They want like a high pick for Rogers. Anyway they're

743
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: not getting well, depends on whose first round they're getting,

744
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: the Jet the Jets. Yeah, well, I guess you're trading

745
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: him to the Jets right now. A matter of when

746
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: Jets pick to pick before the Patriots thirteen and they're

747
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: not trade. I agree with that, but they're not trading

748
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: thirteen for what happens there. That seems you pay him

749
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: sixty million to see how it works. It's crazy. I mean,

750
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. They don't have as much leverage

751
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: as they think. Yeah, I mean, someone's got to happen

752
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks, and this is we're

753
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: getting in the nitty gritty time. I just I'm just

754
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: going to let it ride all the way to training camp.

755
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: If you want to, if you're the Jets, call me in. Yeah.

756
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just nothing saying that he doesn't already

757
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: have their playbook and he's not already studying and all that.

758
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's interesting that OBJ didn't end

759
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: up going there. We didn't talk about that. Yeah, he

760
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: goes to the Ravens and everyone's saying, well, they got

761
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: him to get to bring Lamar back. Do you think

762
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: that e equals be there. I don't know if it's

763
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: like automatic, but yeah, I think that was a that's

764
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: why they did it. I mean, it certainly seems that,

765
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: you know, I know, um, I think Ian Rapp report

766
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: yesterday said that they were celebrating after the deal was done,

767
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: the two of them together. I know, no, no, no,

768
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: Jackson Beckham were celebrating together. They had an Instagram post.

769
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: I think that Lamar put out, you know, with them

770
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: face timing. So I do think if you sort of

771
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: look at it that way, more than likely they said

772
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do. They gave him more

773
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: money than most teams looked like they were willing to do. Miraculously,

774
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: they decided, you know, they found a way to only

775
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: have account at like three million on the cap dues.

776
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know how these mad

777
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: they do. I don't know how they do that as well,

778
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: but a million is real money. They have four void years, Paul,

779
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: and that's really gonna come up and bite them in

780
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: the button a couple of years and then they're going

781
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: to be in cap jail and keep me in ding people,

782
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be horrible to break out a cap jail.

783
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: But I will say, um and in all seriousness that like,

784
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: that's real money, so you know, you can joke about

785
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: the cap. I don't care about the cap part of it.

786
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 1: But cash spending, that's real cash. He's gonna, he's gonna.

787
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: I think it was like thirteen eight something in a

788
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: signing bonus. That's money that Bashadi has to give Odell Beckham. Yeah.

789
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: Worth it. That goes for one to count to another,

790
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: especially if it does grease the skids to get something

791
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: done with Lamar. Totally worth it. In the law, do

792
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: you do that if you're not certain you're gonna get

793
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: Lamar back? Or do you pretty much know we're gonna

794
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: get Lamar? I think the ladder, Yeah, I think in

795
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: The Ladder two. I've always felt the Ladder. And it's

796
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: just I think it's weird because he's he doesn't have

797
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: an agent and usually these things kind of get worked

798
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: out behind the scenes, and you just have a unique

799
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 1: situation him where you have a player negotiating zombie own behalf.

800
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: He's got no one to tell him, Hey, don't tweet that,

801
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: or hey, don't reveal that you're about to sell a

802
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: piece of crap workout equipment like hit a Park. It's

803
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: the no agent think has really really hurt him. I

804
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: think so in a lot of ways. And I I'm

805
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: all for player empowerment and them doing their own thing.

806
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: And if he doesn't want to have an agent, he

807
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: doesn't need to have an agent. But so many of

808
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: these things that have happened with Lamar Jackson never happened

809
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: if he has an agent. Speaking of agents, I saw

810
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: Air over the weekend. Oh yeah, how was it good movie?

811
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: I'm kind of intrigued. I want to go see it. Yeah,

812
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: real good. And this is the story of Nike and

813
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: how they they got Michael Jordan and how he kind

814
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: of launched it. See. I was on the opposite side

815
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: of that when my dad was a Reebok in the

816
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: eighties and like, you know, we had the aerobics, So

817
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna go watching I know, we were allowed to

818
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: like wear Nike stuff. Girl, I mean, why would you

819
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: when your dad's coming home with you know, rebox all

820
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: the time. But it was, you know, just growing up

821
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: you were like, oh, Michael Jordan, Like I just kind

822
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: of had that up because that's where we were. But

823
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued. I it looks pretty good. I've heard that

824
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: that that Ben and Matt do a good job. Yeah,

825
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: I've always been obsessed with Michael Jordan and like, who

826
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: did Reboke have, Rick Roby, guy, Michael Chang Fred You've

827
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: been Michael. It's a different sport. Who do we have

828
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: in basketball? Well, I mean Shack was the big one

829
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: and oh yeah, you know, and everybody like you go

830
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: around the cubicles and it Rebok and everyone would have

831
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: like a mega Shack shoe. Um, he was the big one.

832
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: Uh they did? They have Hardaway too. I think they

833
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: might have had Penny Hardaway too. But you know, it

834
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: was like one of my Johnny LP one of my

835
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: jobs interning when I was there in high school was

836
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: like I go in and I have to like watch

837
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: Sports Center. If any Rebok athletes were featured, I have

838
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: to like flag on him it, you know, like put

839
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: Emma Smith. Emma Smith was another one. Remember they did

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Speaker 1: look close, he was at Gillette State. Who was this? Brady? Brady?

1048
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: The picture he posted was him at from the Tampa.

1049
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't look at the thing. I know

1050
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: you didn't. I was asking something. I was on part

1051
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: of this thing you printed printed because we werena reference

1052
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: kills more trees than anybody I've ever seen. Do you

1053
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: file that. We're just talking about how you know and

1054
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: when what we're doing the show we should reference on

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00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: your phone. Just look on your phone. Want the sign

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00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: the radio, the animals need the trees, Eric, think about that.

1057
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: My second question is whether you guys think I hate

1058
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 1: you all. That's another great moment from all right back

1059
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 1: here and Patriots Unfiltered eight five five past five hundred

1060
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: is the ace ticket outline web radio at patriots dot

1061
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: com is the email address. We're all well fed now,

1062
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: so it's time to get to the phone calls and emails.

1063
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: So let's do that. I promised, and I keep my promises. Well,

1064
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: everybody was able to eat because you said that. It

1065
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: was just Paul. We just sat around and watched you.

1066
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: Paul right, that's me staring at him Freddy eight years

1067
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: before the show. I did describe it to me. Paul.

1068
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: Let's go to Los Angeles where Christian is. What's up, Christian?

1069
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: Thanks for holding on? Yeah, yeah you hey, you guys

1070
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: at a long time those talk seasons over the new

1071
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: one about to get ready to get sorted out. And

1072
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 1: so here's what I'm here. I'm thinking. And you guys

1073
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: let me know afterwards, what do you think of you

1074
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: agree or not? I think we would be okay. Taking

1075
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: Jean Robinson as our first pick, drew me out and

1076
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: an a tackle or a big guard as our second pick. One.

1077
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: You are talking about a generational talent too, who has

1078
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: the contact balance of an Alvin Kamara, the vision and

1079
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: shiftiness of a say Quon Barkley, the route running of

1080
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: a of a Christian McCaffrey, and the downfield present or

1081
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: may I say threat, either a legitimate downfield threat in

1082
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: the passing game like James White. Do you pair him

1083
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 1: with a vermondre Stevens in the backfield Mike is Sitty

1084
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: and Hunter Henry as you're tight end, and whether or

1085
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: not he caught a million balls last year or just

1086
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: showing the flash A four tune Piquan Thornton on the

1087
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: outside would Juju on the other side of the way

1088
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: during his cuts and plant. That puts an awful lot

1089
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: of pressure on the defense. So I think if we

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00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 1: were to go that route, I think we would be

1091
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: okay offensively, Tamar, really quickly for you. You mentioned mac

1092
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: Jones hadn't really had the challenge and conflict of having

1093
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: to come back from twenty when he was in college. Typically,

1094
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: when you got four first round wide receivers on your team,

1095
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: you're not down by twenty. So he was never really

1096
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,919
Speaker 1: in that situation for that reason. Was for that reason

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00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: so he wasn't blaming him, was that he wasn't as

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00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: mature as Trevor as Trevor mars because Trevor Marris has

1099
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: been through that kind of diversity. Well, yeah, but she's

1100
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: just saying, and she's not blaming match, She's just saying,

1101
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: it's a fact that he didn't have to deal with that.

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00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: I get right, when you have that kind of offensive

1103
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: that's around you, you don't, right, it's not that he didn't.

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00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: But but Trevil Lawrence didn't have to do that in

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00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: college either. Yeah, he had to do it in the pros. Yeah,

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00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: so and you know, with the opportunity in the pros, now,

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00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: Lawrence has done it, has done it. Mac Jones hasn't. Yeah,

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00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: Trevor didn't lose any college games either, then we know

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00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: he doesn't. He had better receivers than we had, No,

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00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:02,439
Speaker 1: not really wrong at not really at the Jas. Yeah,

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00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: at Clemson he had a pretty good offense. Right, he

1112
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: never lost at Clemson. Yeah, but obviously he's lost a

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00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: ton with the Jaguars and has been able to fight

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Speaker 1: through adversity. All right, thanks for the call, Christians. He

1115
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: also didn't have their receivers at Clemson. The mac had

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00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: an Alabam. No, well that wasn't even close. But like

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00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: right now, Jacksonville has some good players, Like, yeah, they're

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00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: not anything like Christian Kirk. I like, probably more than most.

1119
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: But I was summarily laughed at last year when he

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Speaker 1: got that contract for liking. In his mind was like

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00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: like I would take him. Now, all of a sudden,

1122
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: it's like, well, he's got a lot more around him.

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Speaker 1: He's got Christian Kirk. Christian Kirk's the best receiver out

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Speaker 1: of the two teams. Like, if you're drafting the Patriots

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Speaker 1: and the Jaguars receivers, I'm say Jones Kirk. No, I

1126
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: would too, But I mean, let's not make it out

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00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: to be that they have like the Bengals wide receiver corps.

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Speaker 1: You know they'll get to that. They'll make fun of

1129
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. He's just a product of his receivers too.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Nicholas in Florida. What's up, Nicholas? Hey there,

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00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: how are you doing good? Good? Good? Yeah? First time caller, um,

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Speaker 1: not so long time listener. I suppose I started listening, uh,

1133
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: right after we lost Brady. That's when things got interesting,

1134
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: I suppose. I mean it's always been interesting, but you know,

1135
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: a little more of a rebuild process. I suppose, um

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00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: a little. I don't want to stay on too long.

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Speaker 1: I have a little story about I work at a

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Speaker 1: restaurant in Longbow Key, Florida. I'm originally from Portland, Maine. Um,

1139
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Speaker 1: and we get a lot of celebrities at the restaurant.

1140
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: We've had like Judge, Duty Play Thompson, Chris collins Worth. Um.

1141
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: But I went to visit one of my tables the

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00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: other day and Mike on Wino was there. Um, that

1143
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: was kind of cool to meet a Patriots player training

1144
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: down here in Florida eating at the restaurant a lot

1145
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: of steak. What was that? Sorry, you take down a

1146
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: lot of steak? Now? He had a two plates of

1147
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: calamari and then a group of now which good choices,

1148
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: so big appetite for sure, and then finished it off

1149
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: with a glass of red wine. Um. Got to talk

1150
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: to him for a little bit though. He was pretty surprised,

1151
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: um that somebody recognized him. But well, there with Craig Robinson,

1152
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: a couple of Michigan boys. Okay, Well, thanks for the call, Nick,

1153
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks for the story, Michael, when you sighting

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Speaker 1: in Florida. Cool story, Hans Uh Kevin's in Rochester, New York.

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01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: What's up, Kevin? Hey everybody, Yes, thanks for taking my call.

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01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Sure, um I uh So, I was thinking

1157
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: about last year and you know, regardless of what ends

1158
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: up happening with Mac Jones or anything, I was wondering

1159
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: if you know, if we were to roll back the

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01:00:55,720 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: team we had last year and have a confident coaching

1161
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: staff on the offensive side of the ball, right regarding

1162
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and his things, would we would we have

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01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: like so Mac jonestall, like he always have like one

1164
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: second to throw the ball, and there was always a

1165
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: lot of scattering and you know, all the all the

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01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: jitteriness you would see of Mac Jones. Do we think

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01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: just having a Bill O'Brien would resolve a lot of

1168
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: that or because there was a lot of other issues

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01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: that I would see, Like you know, it seems like

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01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,959
Speaker 1: after Scar left, like just the discipline of the front

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01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: line was just not as good and anyway, just curious

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01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: to think what you guys thought about that and then

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01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: you know, and is there some piece to the puzzle

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01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: that we need in this upcoming draft. I think it's

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01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: a good question. Thanks. I think that's what they're largely

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01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: counting on this year, you know, in terms of personnel,

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01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: largely the same. Maybe they would have gotten one or

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01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: two more wins, but it's just it's hard to say

1179
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: that they would have beaten a playoff team last year

1180
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: just because they had Bill O'Brien. I didn't see enough.

1181
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: Maybe they would have gotten one to two more wins

1182
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: with him, but that might be up a mystic. Well,

1183
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: I mean, one to two more wins gets you in

1184
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: the playoffs, right right. I just think that a lot

1185
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: of people when they ask that type of question, they're

1186
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: really talking about Mac individually, of how can we evaluate

1187
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: last season and is he really that bad or is

1188
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: he how good? Really is he? And do we have

1189
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: that answer? And I think for all of us, in

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01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: order for any of us to be one hundred percent

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01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: sold on Mac Jones, he needs to be better than

1192
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: he was as a rookie, not just getting back down

1193
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: to the rookie you know, back up to the rookie level,

1194
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: but even better than that for anybody to be one

1195
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: hundred percent sold that that he's the guy for the

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01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: next ten years. Otherwise, if he's just as good as

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01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: he was as a rookie, then where I don't really

1198
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: think that it's changed all that much. I mean, I

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01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: think him taking that next step is how you get

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Speaker 1: to the point of being able to compete with these

1201
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: playoff teams at full power, and you know, to go

1202
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: into a Cincinnati, a Kansas City, a Buffalo, you know,

1203
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: and I think we're really going to need things to

1204
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: go right today. We might need a storm, we might

1205
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: need a quarterback to get hurt, like you know, those

1206
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: are the things that that they've needed over the last

1207
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: few years to to beat those good teams. Straight up,

1208
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: it's just that doesn't happen. Uh. Our next one, now, Chris,

1209
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: our web master, you're you're from out western mass right

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01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: like central Agahome agahom he spells Agawam agahom g h

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01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: a w h o m ah whom. Yeah, but it's

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01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: pat n Agawam. What's up? Pat? That was actually the

1213
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: original spelling of Agawam. I think properly you say agis

1214
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: Chris knows the native of all christ An apology. Yeah,

1215
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: we're just going with the conventional spelling miwak, which means

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Speaker 1: O R O one. I was just thinking that in

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01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: my head. I was like, is that like Foxborough. I've

1218
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: seen it two different ways. Yeah, technically it's ouh okay.

1219
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: That's how Eric wrote it on all his articles. He

1220
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: was correct. He was correct. If you're talking about the town,

1221
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: it's o U g h. If you're talking about the

1222
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: old stadium, it was O r oh. That's true. I

1223
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: like that. It's a good rule of thumb. It's not

1224
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: a rule. It was Yeah, it's a fact. There was

1225
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 1: a sign that had R. I need nemonic devices sometimes,

1226
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: and I'm writing, what's up, pat up, guys, what's up? Everyone? Um,

1227
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: just really quickly. I'm I'm not picking on you, Paul

1228
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: when I say this, but I'm gonna invoke my two

1229
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: thousand and one Paul draft attitude. If we take Bjohn

1230
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: Robinson at fourteen, and I'm just I'm gonna resign at

1231
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: least for this coming year. Like, I don't want to

1232
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: see it. I really don't want to see it because,

1233
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: like Evan said, like a lot of other people I've

1234
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: heard said, this isn't nineteen ninety one. I mean, come on,

1235
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: we have a good running back. You can get a

1236
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: good running back and like fourth round or later, just

1237
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: do the right thing. If to take at number four,

1238
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: to pick, don't screw around, don't wait, don't trade back

1239
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 1: or a tackle if they happy with either, But I'd

1240
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 1: be more happy with they if the Patriots surprised us

1241
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: and take bi John Robinson. It is Blank's pick. Who's

1242
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: picking else? That's what do you mean? They're all Bill Belichick? Really?

1243
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: You don't think that like he took the advice to

1244
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,439
Speaker 1: somebody else. No, that doesn't sound like a Bill pick.

1245
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: That sounds one hundred percent like a Bill pick. To

1246
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: take a running back at fourteen, yes, I'll pick Patty

1247
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: and Irwell just said it's nineteen ninety it's not nineteen

1248
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: ninety one. I know, boom great. Yeah, but Bill would

1249
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: never take a running back that high. He took Lawrence

1250
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: Maroney at like twenty. Yeah that was twenty you know, Fred? Yeah,

1251
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: I don't all the answer to any question that you say,

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01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: whose pick was that? My answer will always be Bill

1253
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: Belichick until he's no longer here. Well, and that's why

1254
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: they won't pick him. But in this particular case, i

1255
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 1: don't know how you like would push back on whatever

1256
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: and saying, yeah, I just I'm running back to old

1257
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: school pick. Definitely an old school pick. But I don't

1258
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: think Bill would ever take him. I just I can't

1259
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: see him taking I don't see that's that's two different things. Yeah,

1260
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: I don't see the Patriots taking him. If the Patriots

1261
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: don't take him, that's not an indication that someone else

1262
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: made the pick. Well, I'm saying if the Patriots took him,

1263
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying it, then it was on board. Bill wanted them.

1264
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: I'd say maybe Robert Kraft wanted them. Do you think

1265
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: that about Beijon? What do you think that you think

1266
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: the running back is anti Bill? Yes, on this edition

1267
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: of the Patriots with all their needs to take a

1268
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: running back at fourteen would be anti Bill. I guess

1269
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: maybe you could say the need thing. I could see

1270
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: where you're coming from, just because their last few drafts

1271
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: were need base. But I don't know. I think Bill

1272
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: thinking that you can still build an offense through running back.

1273
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: It's totally I disagree he was, especially with what he

1274
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: thinks about his quarterback. Yeah, that's what I was thinking

1275
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: in my head with the way he thinks of his quarterback.

1276
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: Maybe he thinks that if he takes some of the

1277
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 1: pressure to throw off of him, Well, you've got a

1278
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: point there. Now, I'm not going to get into the

1279
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: you know, let's kill him for something he hasn't done.

1280
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: But I agree with Evan. If if it happens, that's

1281
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: what the reasoning that you've got a point there. That

1282
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: would be a total lack of faith in his quarterback.

1283
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: And then he would get They would get up there

1284
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: and they would be like, oh, well he was the

1285
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: best player available and he is. How can we how

1286
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: can we pass him up? He was so good? Yeah? Yeah,

1287
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: totally would ask you if you guys grinding tape on Jean.

1288
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: I did Mark and Connecticut wants to talk to Evan. Wonderful.

1289
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: What's up? Even? What's going on? Brother? What's up? So

1290
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: your Mark draft? Absolutely perfect? Oh thank you? Trade down

1291
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: to twenty, you pig Zay Flowers and then in the

1292
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: second round you move up and you big Darnell Washington.

1293
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: If they do those two pigs that that that's just

1294
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: a amazing And I don't care what they do after that.

1295
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate that they're not going to do that, but

1296
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate that was my That was like, we did

1297
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: three of them so far. I don't know if we're

1298
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: going to do a fourth right before the draft or not.

1299
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: He's Mike saying, no, we did everybody else. We did

1300
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 1: the first two. I put my Belichick you know hat

1301
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: on and was like, what would Bill do this last one?

1302
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 1: I was like, what would Evan do? Like, I'm just

1303
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 1: gonna do what I want to do and have fun

1304
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 1: with it, and that's what I did. But if they

1305
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 1: did it was absolutely perfect, Well, thank you because you

1306
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: like the pick. Yeah, if they do what I did

1307
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: in my mock draft, I would say somebody else might

1308
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: have a somebody else might have a say at the table.

1309
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,600
Speaker 1: If they picked a five foot nine slot receiver in

1310
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 1: the first round, then I will tell you that Bill

1311
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: Belichick was swayed, but by somebody in the second round. Yeah,

1312
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: that's more of a Bill pick. Darnel Washington is more

1313
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: of a Bill pick. But Zay Flowers in the first

1314
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 1: round is not a Bill pick. So if that's the case,

1315
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 1: then that then the only changed like to move them

1316
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 1: from where they are to contender status. Is a meteoric

1317
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: rise for the quarterback like Zay Flowers isn't putting you

1318
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: in contender status if Mac Jones is what he's been

1319
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: for two years. I know, but I think what you

1320
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: would hope is obviously that having Azay Flowers is going

1321
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: to elevate Mac and having Bill O'Brien right to those

1322
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: two things together. Now you have Josh McDaniels and they

1323
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: weren't at that status, but he hit he hit the

1324
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 1: wall in his rookie year, but he got off to

1325
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 1: a pretty good start with Josh mcdid and his rookiear

1326
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: that didn't have Zay Flowers right out of the game.

1327
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: He's thrown into Kobe Myers and Kendrick Bourne and Nelson

1328
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: Agalore like this this kid is different. Like this kid

1329
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: is different than those guys like just he just moves

1330
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: differently on a football field. So if you have a

1331
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: guy like Zay Flowers that can open up the offense

1332
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: and make it easier for the order back to hit

1333
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: some big plays just by getting number four the football.

1334
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: He wread number four at BC, I don't know if

1335
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: he will hear Yeah, number four the football. Then happy

1336
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: and he becomes the binkie that he According to Dante

1337
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: uh Let's see Ron and Cambridge says, remember the days

1338
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: when Deuce would complain about Brady's TV twelve business and

1339
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 1: how he wasn't a team player and too focused on

1340
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: off field business and complaining about twelve and four seasons,

1341
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: and how when Brady left, it would be so interesting

1342
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 1: to see how Bill would succeed once Brady left nailed it. Boy,

1343
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: do I wish for those days back, curious to see

1344
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 1: how Bill's number one fan would defend him. Now it

1345
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 1: appears the Emperor has no clothes. Oh good email. That

1346
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 1: was great. That was great. You perfectly put me into

1347
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: the ya. Yeah. Uh, look, man, it ain't going great.

1348
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 1: What do you want me to say? I ain't enjoying

1349
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 1: it in all seriousness? Yeah, because you know, I you know,

1350
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: I do it for sport. I liked to I like

1351
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 1: to tsu. Yeah. If there's been very many things that

1352
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: you've said that you regretted with it, I think it'll

1353
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: be interesting to see what happens. No, no, no, because

1354
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: because fair no interesting, it was there the opposite of interesting.

1355
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 1: They're boring. No, but to see what will happen. I'm

1356
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 1: not saying that the result is. I know I think

1357
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: and I you know you can correct me. Mike. If

1358
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 1: I'm putting words, you know, I think what Mike really

1359
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 1: strongly felt at the time was he's gonna show everybody

1360
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: he can do it without Well that's not what he said.

1361
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: But that's the interesting part is this has set up

1362
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: in a way that it's gonna be sustained. Yeah, we

1363
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 1: might not be super Bowl caliber the very next year,

1364
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: but we're gonna build the team the same way we

1365
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 1: always because I think I always teach you like you know,

1366
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 1: the Santa Claus line, no, no, no, and I but

1367
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: I just think people, especially out of the game, it

1368
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: was the hoodie thing put me as like Bill Belichick

1369
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: super fan, which I like coaches. I really like coaches.

1370
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 1: I think it's you know, one of the coolest parts

1371
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 1: of sports to me is is coaching. But I just

1372
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 1: never came from a place where like, we're gonna show

1373
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: him Bill Like I didn't really, I was never invested

1374
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 1: like that. I think the think this where and like

1375
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 1: and we know, you start walking down the street and

1376
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're up on the hill defending

1377
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 1: the thing. And I'll still say this, Tom Brady had

1378
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: three more years, you got an answer about how they

1379
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: were going to get another super Bowl in those three

1380
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,719
Speaker 1: years with that Patriots team that they had in twenty nineteen,

1381
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm all ears, I'm all ears. That was where I was.

1382
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 1: I realized it ain't happening. They ain't They ain't getting

1383
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: another another super Bowl from him here. He's not engaged anymore,

1384
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be here. Now is the time

1385
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: to move on. That's that was my point, and I

1386
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: still think it was the right point. If you told me, like, hey,

1387
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 1: if they had just drafted this guy and this guy

1388
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty and done this and that twenty like

1389
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one wouldn't have happened. Like so, I'm still waiting,

1390
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 1: like that's my question. What would you have done? What

1391
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: would you have done over the last three years? You

1392
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 1: you just keep rolling Brady out there him, play with

1393
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 1: this autense me get him engaged and and pretty simple, right,

1394
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: give him some money. He would have gotten re engaged regardless.

1395
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily fully described to that. But if Tom

1396
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, if they had drafted AJ Brown instead

1397
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: of nikkil Harry, dude, do you you don't think that

1398
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: he would have been That's but that's before the fact,

1399
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: that's before the facts. I mean, my point is is

1400
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 1: that you said there was nothing that they could do

1401
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: like there if they came, if they if they got

1402
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 1: one of those number one receivers for him, and all

1403
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: of a sudden that you know he has a connection

1404
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 1: like that, then I still because he was as have

1405
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: to give him his money. It's it's the money thing

1406
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: is It's just a different it's a different conversation because

1407
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: these were conversations had in the fall of twenty nineteen.

1408
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,679
Speaker 1: The table was already set with that twenty nineteen draft

1409
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: for me, and there was no way out of mistake

1410
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 1: was made. I agree with Mike. These mistakes were prior

1411
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: to getting to that point. Yeah, and we remember back

1412
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: in that summer when he was talking about it like

1413
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 1: they doubted him long before we got to the end

1414
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: of the road. Yeah, and that was I think sort

1415
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: of unless they were going to pay him, they weren't

1416
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: going back. But I think I don't put it on

1417
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: Tom either, like no I put it on I put

1418
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: it at all parties. Really, I think there was some

1419
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: some blame to go around. Much like most of these things,

1420
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 1: it's not always black and white. There's there's there's more,

1421
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's probably more in the middle. Elf from Wisconsin.

1422
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 1: Fred's eternal optimism is absolutely hilarious. He has full faith

1423
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: that Bill will do the right thing, despite a massive

1424
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 1: amount of evidence to the contrary, and it seems like

1425
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 1: he even gets annoyed with people who have lost the faith.

1426
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 1: Fact is, I don't think Bill wanted to hire Billy Oh.

1427
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: I think he thinks the reason it didn't work last

1428
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: year where the players and the coaching was fine. I

1429
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 1: also don't trust him to draft the right guys or

1430
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 1: to develop them if he does. I think what it

1431
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: all comes down to is a lack of accountability. He

1432
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: seems to think he is infallible, so nothing was ever

1433
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 1: his or his coach's fault. Because of this, I'm ready

1434
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 1: to move on. I don't know what will come next,

1435
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: but I feel pretty certain that for as long as

1436
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: Bill stays, will be around eight or nine wins this season.

1437
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 1: To me, it's okay to have one of two really

1438
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: bad seasons in order to get that high draft pick

1439
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: talent it is. I agree with a lot of that email. Yeah, same,

1440
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: I think that. I mean, even when Bill was asked

1441
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: about that at the owner's meetings, He's like, it's the

1442
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 1: best it was the best thing for the team, Like

1443
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: the answers are just like it doesn't sound like it

1444
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 1: was something he wanted to do, like it was the

1445
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: best thing for the team, not like it was just

1446
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 1: it was whether or not, like I agree with Tamara

1447
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: and whether or not it was what he wanted to do.

1448
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: I mean, can't I can't definitively tell you that he

1449
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 1: didn't want to do it. I mean it's not but

1450
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: like the other side can't be stated unequivocally either, which

1451
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: Mike Lombardi and that rant that was part of it.

1452
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 1: He goes, you know, these two they have to come together.

1453
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 1: You know, Bill admitted that he was I'm sorry, what

1454
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 1: are you saying that because they they signed Bill O'Brien

1455
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: that was an admission, because that's what he's saying. Because

1456
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's necessarily the case. I agree

1457
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 1: with Tamara. I think it was something that was sort

1458
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: of forced upon him. Number One, I don't know this

1459
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: for a fact, but that's just my thought. And number two,

1460
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: has he talked to Mac about it, which I have

1461
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 1: absolutely no idea that to me is what needs to happen. Well,

1462
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 1: Max's not you know, for his part, Max's not, you know,

1463
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 1: acting like the petulant child. He's he's here, he's working out,

1464
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 1: he's doing community stuff. You know, um in this community.

1465
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: Now you know where he lives, um, you know, damage control. Yeah.

1466
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 1: I think he's doing a good job. But but whatever

1467
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 1: you want to do, I think he's doing a good job. Yeah,

1468
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: that's what I would call it. Like he's showing that

1469
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: I want to be part of this community, I want

1470
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: to be part of the team. I think he recognizes

1471
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 1: that he has some culpability for what happened last year,

1472
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: and he's trying to rectify. Someone has to Yeah, I

1473
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: don't think the other side is I was going to say,

1474
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: I feel like Bill has had the opportunity to acknowledge

1475
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 1: that the experiment as Robert Kraft described it, um and

1476
01:16:56,240 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: somebody else did. Yeah. Yeah, I mean just to hear

1477
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft in Arizona say call it an experiment and

1478
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: say it failed, Like I thought that was because Robert

1479
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: Kraft looked at it objective, like a real sane person. Yes,

1480
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's going to be accountable. He's

1481
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: never going to be accountable to the media or the

1482
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 1: fans in the way that they all want he's going

1483
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 1: to be accountable to Robert Craft in the private meetings

1484
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 1: behind closed doors, and otherwise, all he's going to say

1485
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 1: to you is I'm doing what I think is best

1486
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 1: for the team, and that's all you're getting. You're ever

1487
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: going to come out and say I don't need him

1488
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 1: to be accountable to us. I don't. But I can

1489
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 1: read between the lines with Build. You know, we all

1490
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: have enough experience now with him to understand what he's

1491
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 1: what he's really saying, and when he sits there and

1492
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: he says some things at the owner's meetings that clearly

1493
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred and ten percent with Tamara. He thinks

1494
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 1: the players were there at fault last year. I can

1495
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,839
Speaker 1: give you a doesn't think it's the coaching. He totally

1496
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,560
Speaker 1: was the players, And that to me, on top of

1497
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 1: some other you know, actual things like you know, money

1498
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 1: and was like that. But I do think that there

1499
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 1: was a factor into why Jacoby Myers is no longer

1500
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 1: here and Damian Harris is no longer here who they

1501
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: could have had at probably a better contract than James Robinson,

1502
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 1: a guy that you know fits here and works well

1503
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 1: here and is well liked in the locker room and

1504
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 1: they've moved on. I think that's why Brian Hoyer, who

1505
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: cost them money to get rid of, is no longer here,

1506
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 1: is because all these players stood up and said, this

1507
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 1: is not what are we doing on offense. And luckily

1508
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: for Mac, he's the quarterback and he's too important to

1509
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 1: the organization to just cut ties with him immediately. But

1510
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 1: everything points to the fact that Bill thinks that the

1511
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 1: coaching would have been fine last year if the players

1512
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 1: bought in and the players too, you know, were in

1513
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 1: agreeance with what they were doing. So by that motive

1514
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: thinking though, then not much is going to change this year, right,

1515
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 1: Like I mean, if you can't accept what you were

1516
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: responsible for last year, and yeah, you got new coaches again,

1517
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, you're hoping that Bill O'Brien has enough sway

1518
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 1: with Bill that Bill says, go make me an offense

1519
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,640
Speaker 1: and he lets him do it, and he lets him

1520
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: do it. Well, yeah, like I don't, but I think

1521
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: those are two different things. Like, yeah, I think Bill

1522
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 1: O'Brien will be a better offensive coordinator than Matt patricia

1523
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,759
Speaker 1: Hey because he's an offensive coordinator, so that by definition

1524
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: is going to make him a better one. But I

1525
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 1: agree with Mike's point, like I think when and there

1526
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 1: were so many things in that that owner's meeting, the

1527
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 1: special teams won really got yep, got got me make

1528
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: me going at the time, like you know, well, you

1529
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 1: know it's not Cam and I'm not suggesting it was

1530
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 1: Cam a Cord, but I'm saying he's telling you that

1531
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: he doesn't think the offense was a train wreck because

1532
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 1: of coaching last year. He's basically telling you that. I

1533
01:19:55,760 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 1: always say, forget what he says. All right, listen into him,

1534
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 1: but don't listen necessarily to the words, go by his actions.

1535
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 1: What is he telling you by not saying this or

1536
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:11,639
Speaker 1: by saying that, or what he ends up doing. I'm sorry.

1537
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 1: When the season ends and three days later we put

1538
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 1: out what I would call an unprecedented press release, I

1539
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 1: don't think that was Bill Belichick. Oh no, no, no,

1540
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 1: definitely not. I think the reason why that that was

1541
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 1: rubber stamped, you know, accelerated, was Robert Kraft, of course,

1542
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,839
Speaker 1: and good for him for doing it, yeah, because otherwise

1543
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 1: I think there's a chance that we drag our feet

1544
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, well you know, you know, well,

1545
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 1: I mean, what would have gotten Bill O'Brien, but you know,

1546
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 1: he took the Iowa state job or something, you know,

1547
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 1: some random call or whatever, and now you don't have

1548
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: any options. Well, you know, we're better off with just

1549
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 1: Matpetrician in year two. I think that could have happened too.

1550
01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 1: Floyd in Redford, Michigan last year, I all the Patriots

1551
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 1: pregame show and I asked, do the Patriots want a

1552
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 1: playmaker at quarterback? Please see the following responses. Hardy said

1553
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 1: everyone in the NFL wants to play maker at quarterback. Paul,

1554
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 1: if Justin Fields was there, the Patriots would have drafted him.

1555
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: The lovely Tamara. I don't know about that. Patriots drafting

1556
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 1: Justin Field? And then Mike said Mack is their kind

1557
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 1: of guy. The rest of the NFL has moved to

1558
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 1: the more mobile quarterback, but not the Patriots. We have

1559
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 1: passed on Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts and failed to move

1560
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: up four spots draft Justin Field. Can we please have

1561
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 1: a new quarterback philosophy? I don't know. Joe Burrow's doing

1562
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,759
Speaker 1: pretty well. Yeah, I think he's a lot more mobile

1563
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 1: than these guys. He's not a runner, but he's he's

1564
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 1: pretty mobile. His legs are not a factor like you are.

1565
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 1: You're not, and watch the championship game in Kansas City.

1566
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he can't move. I'm just saying you're not.

1567
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: If you're a defensive coordinator and you're going up against

1568
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 1: the Bengals, you're not game planning Joe Burrow's mobility. No,

1569
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: I would agree, But he has the option if needs to.

1570
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 1: I think Mac has the option if he needs to too.

1571
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think he can make the plays

1572
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 1: that he that Burrow makes with his legs. They ran

1573
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,600
Speaker 1: the same forty I don't know. I mean, it's not

1574
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 1: about speed, it's about pocket presence and everything that goes

1575
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: into it. I think he's a better runner. I think

1576
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 1: he was a better runner at LSU. I think he

1577
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 1: made plays with his legs at LSU. He's not. You're right,

1578
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: they're not game planning to stop that, just like I

1579
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: don't think they're. I think Justin Herbert's really mobile, too,

1580
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 1: but I don't think teams are game planning to stop

1581
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 1: his running. Well, you have to work and run. It's

1582
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: like you're mindful of it, but you're not. I agree

1583
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 1: with you. Like from a physical standpoint, especially now with

1584
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,560
Speaker 1: the toWin ACL, they're probably not all that different. I

1585
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 1: just thought, I just think it's white years different when

1586
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: you watch him. I just think the difference isn't about

1587
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: I guess my point is the difference isn't it about

1588
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 1: running or mobility. It's more about I think two things.

1589
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 1: One just pure arm talent like these other guys, like

1590
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's a good example, just has a howitzer. And

1591
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,919
Speaker 1: then you also have you know, out of structure playmaking

1592
01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: and that a native field to just kind of create,

1593
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,759
Speaker 1: you know, when things break down, can I get outside

1594
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 1: the pocket, buy time and then make a throw down

1595
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 1: the field that that element of it. Mac Jones doesn't

1596
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 1: necessarily have like some of these other guys. But I

1597
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 1: think that gets lost and that's not to me. That's

1598
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 1: a little bit different than than calling it mobility. Like

1599
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 1: I don't think they need Jalen Hurts, I don't. I

1600
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,560
Speaker 1: don't have a definition of what I would call it.

1601
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you that those guys can get out

1602
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 1: of the pocket and make plays. Mac Jones, Yeah, the

1603
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 1: ability to improvise. It's like, you know, on a day

1604
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 1: to day basis, like we have to improvise in what

1605
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 1: we do. Depending on you know, you might prepare for

1606
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 1: an interview with Mac Jones and Mac Jones doesn't show

1607
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 1: up and you get Stevenson. Example, we have to seem

1608
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 1: sometimes we have to improvise, and like Mac Jones when

1609
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: a play doesn't go well, like he doesn't improvise. There's

1610
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 1: one time get sacked or throws the ball, one time

1611
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,600
Speaker 1: that I can always think of when we have this conversation.

1612
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 1: Last last year against Baltimore fourth down, he made a play.

1613
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 1: He did he made a play and that was the

1614
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 1: one game last year. I'm not saying I'm just saying

1615
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 1: that that one time I made that play, and it

1616
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: was early on in the season, to the point where,

1617
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 1: on top of it, some of the downfield throws he

1618
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 1: made in that game where some of his better downfield

1619
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 1: throws as a pro too, and you started to say, okay,

1620
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:30,759
Speaker 1: you know, if he can play like this and obviously

1621
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: be a little bit more under control in the turnover department,

1622
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 1: then at least it's it's more it has a higher

1623
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 1: ceiling than the other things that we have seen from him.

1624
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: But that that was one flash, and I will fully

1625
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 1: admit that was one little window like between somewhere between

1626
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 1: that between that throw and the ankle injury in the

1627
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 1: end of that game where I kind of felt a

1628
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: glimmer of hope last year, like that was probably the

1629
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 1: only little window there in the fourth quarter whatever it was,

1630
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 1: because once he got his ankle, You're like, well, great,

1631
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 1: now he's out. We're gonna you know, it's happy for

1632
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 1: two things that I don't know about. That is part

1633
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 1: of what Evan just said about, you know, like some

1634
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 1: of the downfield throws, if you could cut back on

1635
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,560
Speaker 1: the mistakes mistakes I don't know if he can do that.

1636
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's capable of making the downfield

1637
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 1: throws without putting the ball at risk. I don't know.

1638
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you he's not. But I agree with

1639
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: Evan's overall assessment of that game. And I know it's

1640
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:23,640
Speaker 1: crazy to look at the game that he threw with

1641
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 1: three interceptions, said that was I did. That was the

1642
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 1: best game because it wasn't like little swing passes to

1643
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,600
Speaker 1: Romandre Stevenson that got twelve yards, right he was. It

1644
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 1: was throws that got the yards in that game, and

1645
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:36,919
Speaker 1: you got caught in a little bit of a shootout

1646
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: and they didn't just melt. Yeah, he punched back. He

1647
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 1: made plays to punch back. Now, unfortunately there were too

1648
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 1: many mistakes for them to keep up. But I thought

1649
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 1: there were glimmers in that game that I hadn't seen.

1650
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 1: The only other game another one where I was like,

1651
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: that was bad defense, Like he's defense was horrible, and

1652
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 1: but I mean in the special team's mistakes, but in

1653
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 1: the fourth was another one where Bagel Yeah, I just

1654
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 1: I think to your point, Paul, this is it's some

1655
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 1: of the most interesting thing I have coming into this

1656
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 1: season is what do they do with Mac this year?

1657
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 1: Because as much as you want to say, oh, that

1658
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 1: was the Matt Patricia offense last year, I think a

1659
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:13,560
Speaker 1: lot of the philosophy of that offense was Bill and

1660
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,560
Speaker 1: this is the direction we want to go. How do

1661
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 1: they marry what Josh did on offense and what they

1662
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 1: tried to do on offense last year into what this is.

1663
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 1: I actually think that the offense last year, the roots

1664
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 1: of the offense last year was Alabama and they were

1665
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: trying to get him to throw the ball down the

1666
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 1: field like he did at Alabama. If you go watch

1667
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,560
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, it's Alabama film. It's bombs away like that

1668
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,759
Speaker 1: he does, you know, but he's throwing bombs to Davante

1669
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 1: Smith and Jalen Waddle and John Metchie. You know, he's

1670
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: not throwing bombs right right. It's like the interception through

1671
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 1: in the playoff game in Buffalo and the first drive

1672
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:49,560
Speaker 1: when he actually did make a couple of plays with

1673
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 1: his legs that night on that drive to move the chains.

1674
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 1: And then he's got a guy forget if it was

1675
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 1: I forget who he was. Yeah, he was open throws

1676
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 1: late and show and well and in the same guy

1677
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 1: here's made an unbelievable interception. It would it would help

1678
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 1: if the receiver actually tried to go up and get

1679
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the hope I have. Like when Mac

1680
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 1: was coming out, we were all told he's the most

1681
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,600
Speaker 1: pro ready guy in the draft, and that's because of

1682
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: his head of his cerebral you know abilities. And then

1683
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 1: we see last year that we were told that there

1684
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 1: were no adjustments at the line, that there was no

1685
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 1: opportunity for him to use his brain, you know, curiosity, whatever.

1686
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,560
Speaker 1: So my hope that year is whatever the offense is,

1687
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, if it doesn't take

1688
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 1: advantage of the thing that he's supposedly the best at,

1689
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: which is decision making, then I don't know what they're doing. Yeah,

1690
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 1: and that's I think to the Za Flowers of it all,

1691
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 1: that's you know, get back to that. And I mean,

1692
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 1: I just don't think you really have receivers who are

1693
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 1: going to separate like you had in Alabama. I mean,

1694
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: maybe we hold out hope that Taekwon Thornton's able to

1695
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 1: shake loose, but yeah, and also a line that gives

1696
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 1: him more than two and a half second the row. Well,

1697
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 1: but he's agreed, but he also that is also partially

1698
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 1: on the quarterback, like he's gotta get rid of the ball,

1699
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 1: and they have to have the receivers that he can

1700
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 1: get rid of the ball too, And he's got to

1701
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 1: work quickly through the progression. I think last year, the

1702
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 1: guy that you saw towards the especially down the stretch,

1703
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 1: in terms of progression speed and how fast he was

1704
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,640
Speaker 1: going through things, well, I didn't even know who I

1705
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 1: was watching anymore, because the guy at Alabama was like

1706
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,560
Speaker 1: boom boom, boom boom. The guy his rookie year was

1707
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 1: was similar to the guy at Alabama. And then last

1708
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 1: year his ability to just read the defense, get the

1709
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 1: ball out to the right guy. I mean, how many

1710
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 1: times was his back to the open receiver last year

1711
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 1: where he would just open the wrong direction and never

1712
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 1: get to that side of the field and the guy's stating,

1713
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 1: you know, standing in there, And for whatever reason, I

1714
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 1: don't want to go, I went to this rabbit hole.

1715
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: But I feel I have to say when Zappy came in,

1716
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 1: it looked like that, like it was three step drop,

1717
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: five step drop, get rid of it. And for whatever reason,

1718
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 1: it looked better with Zappi when he came in. And

1719
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 1: that's why I think people got the fever, you know,

1720
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 1: because he was a people getting rid of the ball.

1721
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 1: It looked better in the Cleveland game. Yeah, I'm not

1722
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 1: sure how much better it looked. But Cargo game or

1723
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 1: a Green Bay game or Detroit, people forget about People

1724
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:14,560
Speaker 1: forget that the other team went over for six on

1725
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 1: fourth thound. Yeah they Yeah, this is the one time

1726
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 1: that I will go after that, I will allow Paul

1727
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 1: to do this game. That's true because that the Lions

1728
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 1: were playing practice squad guys in their secondary that day.

1729
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 1: Because everybody was hurt for the Lions in their cornerback room,

1730
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 1: and it really wasn't that much better. The Cleveland game

1731
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 1: was a different offense than what we saw in the

1732
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 1: other Yeah sixteen Fred. Wait back to that email, though,

1733
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 1: I would just like to note that Jalen Hurts, he

1734
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 1: didn't look the way he did until they purchased the

1735
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 1: pieces to make him look good. So without going after Brown, yes,

1736
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 1: I mean, without going after Brown those other things to

1737
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 1: make their offense good enough to get them to the

1738
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:56,640
Speaker 1: super Bowl, I don't know what Jalen Hurts would have

1739
01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 1: looked like last year. And the same thing with Um Fields.

1740
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 1: Fields didn't look good till they came here in Foxborow

1741
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:05,600
Speaker 1: and then they figured it out. So I just and

1742
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:07,640
Speaker 1: again they've added a lot of pieces. I think in

1743
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 1: both cases Fields and Hurts, the teams realize what they had. Yes,

1744
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 1: they figured okay, you know definitely with Hurts. Yeah yeah, Fields,

1745
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 1: I think they're still trying to figure that out, but

1746
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 1: already off they do know, we gotta let this guy

1747
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 1: run a little bit. Yeah, that's full second coaching staff. Yeah,

1748
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 1: that's what god Fields going was this that game here

1749
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 1: Monday night, they finally unveiled like a Lamar Jackson style

1750
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 1: rush package for him, and it opened everything up Mike

1751
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 1: in la Evan and Mike loved the mock draft videos,

1752
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 1: But since when did Flowers become worthy of the fourteenth pick?

1753
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 1: The whole local guy out of BC thing should should

1754
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 1: not boost him that high in the first What makes

1755
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 1: him worthy of being taken at fourteen? I watched the film,

1756
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 1: Oh wow, it was love at first sight. Wow. I

1757
01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 1: just I'm sorry I that was that was But I

1758
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:04,639
Speaker 1: just feel really because I'm getting I get I've gotten

1759
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 1: this pushback a lot from people of all like you know,

1760
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 1: why are you so in love with this kid? YadA, YadA, YadA,

1761
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 1: Like he's only five foot nine. Well, I don't just

1762
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 1: look at measurements like with with with prospects, like you

1763
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 1: actually watch them play football, because you know, Tyreek Hill

1764
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 1: is like five to eight right, and and Jalen Waddle

1765
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 1: is basically the same size as a Flowers is five nine,

1766
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 1: one eighty. I don't know. I mean, I just don't

1767
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 1: really feel like so he doesn't he's not an impressive

1768
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 1: guy coming off the bus, So he's not worth the

1769
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 1: first round pick. Like I just I don't really get that. Like, Okay,

1770
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 1: then they should draft Quentin Johnston and he'll be to

1771
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 1: kill Harry two point zero and cool, good job, Like

1772
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 1: I why does that matter how he looks in in

1773
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 1: spandex at the combine. I just don't see that. Say

1774
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm a twenty. It wasn't even fourteen. I don't I know, right,

1775
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 1: and I traded down. Come on, pay attention. Todd says

1776
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 1: that we were talking early Kyle Murray and Bryce Young

1777
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:06,640
Speaker 1: and uh. Todd says that they're both the exact same height. Yeah, no,

1778
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 1: they've Bryce Young is taller right at the combine. He

1779
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:13,799
Speaker 1: was five ten, wasn't it, he says. According to nfl

1780
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 1: dot com slash Prospects, Bryce Young and Kyler Murray are

1781
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:20,639
Speaker 1: measured in at the exact same height, but Kyler Murray

1782
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 1: was wearing pie heels or something that day. Yeah, I'm

1783
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 1: not comparing him to Kyler Murray. I'm asking what Bryce

1784
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 1: young size was at the combine. I thought it was five.

1785
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 1: So they measured Kyler at five ten and they measured

1786
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:35,600
Speaker 1: I guess they did measure in at the same at

1787
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:38,680
Speaker 1: the combine. But I I've stood next to both of

1788
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 1: them at the combine. I will say this, and again,

1789
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't really care about Kyler Murray for this particular

1790
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 1: argument that's disrespectful to Kyler Murray. I mean I care

1791
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:49,680
Speaker 1: about I mean, he's a human being, um. But for

1792
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 1: this argument, I'm much more concerned um with Bryce Young's

1793
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 1: size in terms of his bill thickness, Dan i AMA's height.

1794
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 1: I think we've seen an enough evidence in the last

1795
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 1: ten years that you don't have to be six five anymore.

1796
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:06,560
Speaker 1: There are plenty of guys that are six foot and

1797
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 1: under that fine ways to succeed, like Russell Wilson has

1798
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 1: and I think this guy could do it too. But

1799
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 1: he's small, is thick, yeah, And this guy isn't. He's

1800
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 1: really slight, and I think I think he put on something. God,

1801
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 1: I think he put on some weight for the combine

1802
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 1: to make it look like, Yeah, he had a little

1803
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:31,920
Speaker 1: bit more bulk. I think he's a sub two hundred guy,

1804
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 1: and he's definitely sub six feet. I know that. Maybe

1805
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 1: then maybe I'm wrong about the measurements, But I just

1806
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 1: watching the two of those guys, like, I just don't.

1807
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 1: Kyler is is little, like you know, I don't. I

1808
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 1: don't think of Bryce Young the way he runs with

1809
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:51,599
Speaker 1: the football too. It's just like it's right, he's fast.

1810
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 1: If I didn't give him that my hamstrings weren't still

1811
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 1: killing from the weekend. I would give you the the

1812
01:33:56,560 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray run build a fire Goodness. Let's get back

1813
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:04,639
Speaker 1: to the Ace ticket helpline. We'll start with Eldred. What's up, Eldred?

1814
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:12,799
Speaker 1: Evn Quentin tough three cone? Time for your guy? Eldred?

1815
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:17,720
Speaker 1: What I haven't looked at it lately, but uh not?

1816
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 1: But my question is, uh, Evan, Yes, I like your

1817
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 1: draft too, thank you, But you wanna got enough guys

1818
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 1: on the inside. I mean, don't you think the defensive

1819
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 1: be thinking at you? But you ain't got nobody to

1820
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 1: skim them on the outside? Oh nobody you got Stave Parker.

1821
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 1: You hope though it might do it, but I don't know.

1822
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 1: I just I'm just taking the best player. I don't

1823
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 1: really care about where they're gonna play. And I'm also

1824
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 1: I don't really like I don't think you should make

1825
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 1: decisions off of who you should draft because you have

1826
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 1: Kendrick Boring on your round. What did you get for

1827
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 1: trading down to twenty high third round pick? Okay, it

1828
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 1: sounds reacing, Yeah, I oh, he asked me about the

1829
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 1: trade down. I just want to know what time you

1830
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 1: do it. You have to do it like the SPFW guys,

1831
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 1: and you got to get two ones in the two

1832
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 1: best year. Yeah. Well, a lot of people did push

1833
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:13,439
Speaker 1: back on me and we're like that's not enough. I'm like,

1834
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 1: it's a there's a trade chart. Go look at all

1835
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 1: the chart. It's literally a chart. It tells you add

1836
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 1: this many points to that many point. Anyways. Uh, yeah,

1837
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm not. I just want the best football player. I

1838
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 1: think if you get caught up in oh, what's like

1839
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 1: the best complimentary piece to this and if he needs

1840
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 1: to play here and needs to play, I think that

1841
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,639
Speaker 1: that's we're getting too much into the into the weeds,

1842
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 1: especially for a team like the Patriots that can't draft receivers.

1843
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 1: Just just take the best player. Do more to mote

1844
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 1: myself saying be quick about it. I hate myself with

1845
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 1: staying there. But if they're about up at those quarterback,

1846
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 1: I hope we push up. Get gun dogs the corner

1847
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 1: instead of a wide receiver anything. Yeah, you get a

1848
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:58,600
Speaker 1: tackle and it stuck a third round, you're not pushing older. No.

1849
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 1: I guess mel Hiper has the Patriots getting Gonzales in

1850
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 1: his latest I've seen with him, Uh getting back to

1851
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 1: the email. What you got on you about you waste

1852
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 1: that thing over with Brady? If they just gave Brady

1853
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 1: a couple more receivers, I pushed Brady. I doing this

1854
01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 1: field in the wheelchair as long as you give me

1855
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 1: to a super Bowl. If you de man, what do

1856
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 1: you want it? I'm receivers and being good to go.

1857
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 1: I think I have a better three count time than

1858
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 1: Clinton Johnston. So let's go to Kevin and Sanfrand, what's

1859
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 1: up Ken the measurables? Kevin? Kevin, Kevin? I left Mike

1860
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:40,680
Speaker 1: call in s he's not there? All right? Corey in

1861
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 1: South Carolina? What's up? Corey? Hey? What's up you guys?

1862
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 1: How are y'all doing? Good? Good? Good good? Hey? All right.

1863
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 1: I want to be a little bit of a voice

1864
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:54,560
Speaker 1: of the reason in some of this chat because I

1865
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:58,679
Speaker 1: think that, like specifically Evan and Paul, I think there's

1866
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:00,679
Speaker 1: a lot of Feature fans to agree with you, guys.

1867
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 1: You've got to get more playmakers with a free agency

1868
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 1: the draft developing guys. I think you got to get

1869
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,799
Speaker 1: the better offensive line play. I think we were decent

1870
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:11,720
Speaker 1: in the run game last year, but I think that

1871
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 1: pass blocking against like elite pass rush, critical downs, those

1872
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:17,719
Speaker 1: are rough and you've got to get better quarterback play.

1873
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 1: But I kind of want to come to Max's defense

1874
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 1: in two areas because I think it's a little bit overlooked.

1875
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 1: In one is, don't overlook the ability to scheme guys open, right,

1876
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 1: Like you look at some of the plays last year

1877
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 1: and critical downs, third downs, we just didn't have options there.

1878
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:40,479
Speaker 1: There There wasn't a check down, There wasn't um a

1879
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 1: guy that that is scheme to break through the seam

1880
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 1: or to um kind of take advantage of of an

1881
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:53,759
Speaker 1: outside linebacker rush. And then two, actually having those guys

1882
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:57,599
Speaker 1: that can press the triangle, right, I know it's it's Evan.

1883
01:37:57,640 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 1: You talk a lot about having a guy that can

1884
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 1: break it at the top or having a tall guy

1885
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 1: that can can beat out guys. I think you need that.

1886
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 1: I think you need someone that can that can make

1887
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 1: room in space, and I think you need a tight

1888
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 1: end that can press the triangle and take advantage of

1889
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 1: different coverages. So I totally agree with you guys. There's

1890
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 1: a lot of the needs to go on, but I

1891
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 1: think you got to give Mack a little bit of

1892
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 1: grace in that situation last year. Press the triangle? Nice, Okay,

1893
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:30,640
Speaker 1: thanks Corey. Ye, you're not making fun of him for that, right,

1894
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 1: that's that's right out of you. Yeah. I just said

1895
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 1: he knows some ball. Okay, that's right out of your

1896
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 1: What does that mean for us idiots? Middle of the field?

1897
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 1: Like press the triangle? I give the two safeties? Right,

1898
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:42,920
Speaker 1: you have the linebacker in the middle field, Like, who's

1899
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 1: who's opening up that that middle area in his own? Yeah? Okay, yeah,

1900
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 1: who's who's who's opening it up for everybody? I would

1901
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 1: have soccer that you work in. I would just argue

1902
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:56,560
Speaker 1: a lot. There's a lot of triangle reads too, and

1903
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 1: progressions for quarterbacks. I don't know which direction he was

1904
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:03,200
Speaker 1: going with that, necessarily, what I make that that joke

1905
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 1: about soccer? You make fun of me? What time it's given?

1906
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 1: Go set up a child? It's not that. It's not

1907
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:13,240
Speaker 1: that complicate. H CJ. In Kansas City? What's up to

1908
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 1: you change the geometry of paying up? CJ? So are

1909
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 1: you in Kansas City? Are you like right in the

1910
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:25,400
Speaker 1: city proper? You ever been to Grozzianos or Garrozzos Garrozzos yez? Yeah,

1911
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:29,680
Speaker 1: good place, good place. I mean it's it's definitely one

1912
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:31,880
Speaker 1: of places. I so, I'm a transplant. I moved out

1913
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 1: here in like Oa, but it was one of the

1914
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:35,599
Speaker 1: first places people told me I had to go. Yeah,

1915
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:37,439
Speaker 1: it's it's really good. So are you going to go

1916
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 1: to the draft? Yeah? So I don't know how they

1917
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 1: do the other places, but me and a co worker

1918
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 1: of mine, we're gonna go. Um, we had up like

1919
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 1: it's like, it's not reserved tickets, but we had to

1920
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 1: put our information in to get access. I don't know

1921
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 1: if that's how it works all the time or not.

1922
01:39:55,520 --> 01:40:01,640
Speaker 1: But nothing you had to pay for. Cool st still waiting. Yeah,

1923
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 1: we're still waiting to find out nice. Okay, So here's

1924
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:09,759
Speaker 1: my question, um, talking about the draft? If U and Evan,

1925
01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 1: I think I already know you're answered to this based

1926
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 1: on your last show. But if Christian Gonzalez cornerback is

1927
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:18,760
Speaker 1: still there, say Flowers is there and Harris Johnson are

1928
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:21,599
Speaker 1: there for our fake and fourteen? Who are you guys taken?

1929
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 1: Christian Gonzalez? Yeah, that would be my pa. Do that.

1930
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 1: I'm in I think I think it's a huge year. Yeah,

1931
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:30,679
Speaker 1: my pick would be Gonzalez because I think that would

1932
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:34,360
Speaker 1: be the best corner, yeah, and I think that's a

1933
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:37,680
Speaker 1: harder positions stud Yeah. I think corner two just as

1934
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 1: because of what we discussed, the wide receiver class just

1935
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 1: like isn't as strong, and so I think that you

1936
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 1: can have the opportunity to get another wide receiver later,

1937
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 1: but you have the opportunity to get the best corner allegedly,

1938
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 1: so you should get them. I think you can get

1939
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:53,559
Speaker 1: discount slot receive. I mean, not as good as they flowers,

1940
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:55,639
Speaker 1: but there are in the middle of the field later.

1941
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 1: It's just I just like we talked about it a lot,

1942
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 1: like how does this defense get over the edge? Because

1943
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:02,680
Speaker 1: they've been pretty good and I think it's almost like

1944
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 1: they're good enough to lull you into a false sense

1945
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,599
Speaker 1: of security, saying I think the Patriots defense is pretty good.

1946
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:09,839
Speaker 1: I mean by the numbers, they are a pretty good defense,

1947
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 1: but they haven't been good enough against the really good

1948
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:14,680
Speaker 1: teeth and they have to get over that hump. And

1949
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 1: I think the A one cornerback is a big piece

1950
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 1: of it. And I mean we're gonna talk about defensive

1951
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 1: ents too. I think that's a whole nother you debate about,

1952
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 1: which is weird because I feel like doing this forever.

1953
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 1: Patriots fans usually are like, we need a pass rusher,

1954
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:31,600
Speaker 1: and you just don't hear it this year, And I

1955
01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 1: know you got chewed on and you got to coming

1956
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 1: off good seasons. And they're both back, but you know

1957
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 1: one's over thirty the other center in the last year

1958
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 1: of his deal. So you know there's something there too

1959
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 1: that I don't think we've quite pinned down yet. The

1960
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,599
Speaker 1: Patriots of the past would not have a million holes

1961
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:47,680
Speaker 1: on their roster that they need to fill, so they

1962
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:50,679
Speaker 1: would take an edge rusher in the first round because

1963
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:54,879
Speaker 1: they had a whole to fill next year at that position.

1964
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 1: Now they are kind of in a position where they

1965
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:01,160
Speaker 1: don't really have that luxury anymore. But if this was

1966
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 1: the Patriots ten years ago, then a guy like Nolan

1967
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 1: Smith or Lucas Van Nast or someone like that, it

1968
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 1: would be in every mock draft who was the guy.

1969
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 1: I think the Texas Tech guy that they were Tyree

1970
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:16,040
Speaker 1: Wilson tied they would tie to today. They expressed it.

1971
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:18,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's here or coming for a

1972
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:20,760
Speaker 1: thirty or they went to Friday, did they went to

1973
01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 1: watch him or whatever? But I just thought that was

1974
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:26,639
Speaker 1: interesting because he is I don't know, kind of considered

1975
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 1: to be a top ten pick, right, So if you're

1976
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 1: if you're in there, are you maybe hoping that the

1977
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 1: board unfolds in a different way like we talked to

1978
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 1: beginning of this show, with the quarterbacks maybe pushing some

1979
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 1: good players down, or might the Patriots target a guy

1980
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 1: go up again? I think it's a great question, and

1981
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's something I think we've been circling with

1982
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:48,800
Speaker 1: Evan this whole spring of like, you know, if the

1983
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:51,080
Speaker 1: right tackle isn't there and you don't feel great about

1984
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 1: Zave Flowers, you know, maybe they feel like they don't

1985
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:56,080
Speaker 1: even think Zave Flowers maybe is like a top twenty pick,

1986
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:59,760
Speaker 1: Like that's maybe right, I mean, if it's the right

1987
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to bang the table for

1988
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:03,560
Speaker 1: Devin Witherspoon. I mean, I'm not going to bang the

1989
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 1: table for Joey Porter Jr. You know what the worst

1990
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:07,519
Speaker 1: part about this draft is, I'm not being at the

1991
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:10,040
Speaker 1: table for anyone. Yeah, Gonzalez, I would be. It's not

1992
01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:11,960
Speaker 1: because I don't think they are good players in this draft.

1993
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:13,640
Speaker 1: It's just that, like there's after you get through the

1994
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:17,640
Speaker 1: first so many holes. I'm not banging the table just

1995
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 1: for one of them to get filled. Like, I think

1996
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 1: they have options. I think you can make a case

1997
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:23,439
Speaker 1: for a lot of guys. Yeah, I think they'll fill

1998
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:27,000
Speaker 1: a hole with whoever they take. Patty and Agawam chimes in.

1999
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:29,799
Speaker 1: He says about Bill's draft, He says, Bill took touchdown

2000
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 1: Tommy Vardell with the ninth pick in the ninety two draft.

2001
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 1: Hopefully Bill has evolved a tad since then. Something to

2002
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:38,799
Speaker 1: mull Over. I don't know if he has Tommy Vardell,

2003
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:42,240
Speaker 1: but remember that how bitter he is. Time comes to

2004
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 1: Bill always. Yeah, the roster building in the last three

2005
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:48,760
Speaker 1: or four years, it's just lost them. Sorry, the track

2006
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 1: record speaks for itself. I'm only going off the receipts

2007
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 1: like I can't. I can't change what he's done. But

2008
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 1: Tyree Wilson's a nice interesting player because he's not that

2009
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 1: like Screamer Von Miller, Bendy edge rusher that a lot

2010
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 1: of teams want to take in the top ten, like

2011
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:08,880
Speaker 1: a Will Anderson type. So he is somebody that the

2012
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 1: league might jim nage, the league might be a little

2013
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 1: bit lower on than some of the mock drafts are

2014
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:23,679
Speaker 1: because he doesn't have that prototypical double digit sack guy game.

2015
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 1: But at the same time, if you're the Patriots like

2016
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:30,720
Speaker 1: Josh Jay, Judean, Barmore, Tyree Wilson, I think all those

2017
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 1: guys can be on the field for you at the

2018
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 1: same time, and that that becomes a front. That's that's

2019
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 1: a problems, not that it isn't already, But I'm wondering

2020
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:40,560
Speaker 1: back to the owners meetings when we were talking to

2021
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 1: mister Craft, how important he said this draft was going

2022
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 1: to be, if he's gonna have potentially a larger state

2023
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 1: than he usually would in terms of like what and

2024
01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 1: who we draft um, because he said, like you essentially

2025
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:57,560
Speaker 1: like build your success base off this draft, and we

2026
01:44:57,640 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 1: haven't drafted well. So I'm wondering if he nudge and

2027
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 1: ensure that we do draft well with the picks that

2028
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:06,640
Speaker 1: we have. Well, I'm sure he's, you know, telling them

2029
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:08,560
Speaker 1: you got to do a good job. The question is,

2030
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:10,800
Speaker 1: I don't think Robert's going to be in the room saying, oh,

2031
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 1: let's pick say Flowers, but I think he might if

2032
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 1: there's an influence that he's going to have. It's telling

2033
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 1: Bill listen to Matt grow more. Yeah, maybe maybe, I

2034
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:23,120
Speaker 1: don't know. I got. Can I make one more point

2035
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:25,760
Speaker 1: about it? Sorry? Maybe do we have faith in that?

2036
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 1: Because it's just made. I don't mean to no, I

2037
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:33,519
Speaker 1: actually don't attack me. I actually don't think that. The

2038
01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 1: influence that I want mister Kraft to have is not

2039
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:38,400
Speaker 1: to tell him to listen to Macro. The influence that

2040
01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 1: I want mister Kraft to have is can we not

2041
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 1: pick cole Strange in the first round? Like? How do

2042
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 1: you do that? You know? Conventional? Can we stick it? Well? Yeah,

2043
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 1: on the fairway. But I think let's let's have our

2044
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 1: saying stack our board and let's what's state. Well, what

2045
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying is I think, you know, I we're spending

2046
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 1: all this money on our scouts. Let's listen to our scout. Okay,

2047
01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:00,879
Speaker 1: so I would. It's the old thing he had with Parcel.

2048
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:02,840
Speaker 1: It's always dangerous to do this, but I'm gonna do

2049
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 1: it anyway. Do you really think that Cole Strange was

2050
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 1: one of their top twenty rated prospects last year? The Patriots? Yeah,

2051
01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:13,200
Speaker 1: he can't be. I just can't imagine. It was so

2052
01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:16,599
Speaker 1: like Van's point. If Robert, Robert's not saying, hey, listen,

2053
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 1: I really really like this a Flowers kid man. I mean,

2054
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 1: I think his three kids like, no, he's not doing that, okay,

2055
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:27,760
Speaker 1: but he can't say can we just establish a board

2056
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:31,759
Speaker 1: and reasonably stick to it? Because I think they veered

2057
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 1: wildly with Cole Strange last year. Now I don't know that. Yeah,

2058
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 1: for all I know, we had this. We had him

2059
01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:43,479
Speaker 1: as our twenty first rated prospect and everybody else had

2060
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 1: him at one hundred and twenty one. I don't know

2061
01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 1: that might be true. I just it just screamed of

2062
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 1: need last I think they're desperate, panicked and jumped off

2063
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 1: his board, and I think that's when you get in trouble.

2064
01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 1: I just can you not have the defending Super Bowl

2065
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 1: champions laughing at you on the night of the draft, Like,

2066
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:05,400
Speaker 1: can we just make a pick that it doesn't have

2067
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 1: to be Zay Fly? It doesn't have to be the

2068
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 1: guy we're all talking about, right? Like? I think that's

2069
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:11,479
Speaker 1: one thing that I did the mail bag this week

2070
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 1: and a lot of people asked me, like, what's the

2071
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:15,680
Speaker 1: who's the guy that nobody's talking about? Because we know

2072
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 1: Bill and he's gonna take some tell you, when I

2073
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:19,880
Speaker 1: get my book, he's gonna take a lot of first

2074
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:21,960
Speaker 1: round picks that I think no one's talking about, like

2075
01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 1: but their first round picks exactly. That was a fourth

2076
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:26,840
Speaker 1: round pick that no one was talking about. Right, Can

2077
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 1: we just take somebody at fourteen that all of us

2078
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 1: on our shows, mel kiper Daniel Jeremiah is like, yeah,

2079
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 1: that you know that he was right in that range.

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01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 1: You know we had him. I had him at at

2081
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:41,439
Speaker 1: sixteen on my big board, So big whoop that they

2082
01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:43,760
Speaker 1: took him two spots earlier than I had him or something.

2083
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:47,599
Speaker 1: Just one's going to argue that, right, Just get somebody

2084
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:50,439
Speaker 1: that is a brand name. That's it. That's what I've

2085
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:53,720
Speaker 1: been saying all offseason. I don't want any like off

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01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:57,160
Speaker 1: brand Dollar Store. I need like a premium player. Pick

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01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:01,840
Speaker 1: a premium player picks. It's very I doesn't want a

2088
01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:07,920
Speaker 1: brand name. Would be if they if they got Handon

2089
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 1: Hooker at some point, I would be so excited. So yes,

2090
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:16,640
Speaker 1: and back to that, I do think that if they

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01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:18,960
Speaker 1: are going to, you know, pick a third quarterback to

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01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 1: be on this team, I wanted to be someone with

2093
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:22,680
Speaker 1: a different skill set than what we already have. So

2094
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:26,639
Speaker 1: whether it's Hendon Hooker or dtr who we were able

2095
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 1: to see an East West Shrine Bowl and the Patriots

2096
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:31,000
Speaker 1: had a chance to talk to him. Whether it's someone

2097
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 1: with their skill set and their playmaking ability. I feel

2098
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 1: like that would be a good fit for the third

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01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 1: spot in the quarterback ground. Yeah quick, who am I?

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01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 1: Game ready? These are all former Patriots? Who am I?

2101
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:45,839
Speaker 1: I was a hard hitting linebacker that won two national

2102
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:50,559
Speaker 1: titles in college. Dante Higtower incorrect, handycats and Moore you're out,

2103
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:56,120
Speaker 1: You're out. You're both to win us didn't guess? I contributed?

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01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 1: I contributed. I contributed my rookie year, playing a long

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01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 1: alongside Drawdmeo and Rob Ninkovich. This is not Dante Hytower. Nope,

2106
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 1: I contributed my rookie No, no guesses one more, Gary Cuton. No,

2107
01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 1: you're out. It's up to Tamara. I had two stints

2108
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:20,040
Speaker 1: with both the Patriots and the Bills before retiring. Oh

2109
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 1: do you watch videos on the internet? Now? Definitely? Person?

2110
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:32,960
Speaker 1: Where is this going? Where is this going? Brandon Spikes? Yeah,

2111
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:40,559
Speaker 1: you won two national championships at Florida. I guess good one, um,

2112
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:43,040
Speaker 1: next one. I signed with New England before my fifth

2113
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:47,560
Speaker 1: year as wide receiver in the league. I signed with

2114
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 1: New England before my fifth year No. One. I was

2115
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:54,599
Speaker 1: a reliable target for Brady during the team's three Super

2116
01:49:54,640 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 1: Bowl runs in four years. David pad correct deuce alright

2117
01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:05,479
Speaker 1: was looking at the right, uh next one two more.

2118
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 1: I was a pass catching running back for the Patriots

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01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 1: and routinely put up thirty to forty catch seasons as

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01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 1: a player former Patriot. I spent my entire career as

2121
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 1: a Patriot. N Kevin fok last one. This one's worth

2122
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:32,640
Speaker 1: three thirty to forty said, it's a uh final, This

2123
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 1: is the bonus. I was a backup to Drew Bledsoe

2124
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:38,479
Speaker 1: and spent majority of my career as a Patriot before

2125
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:43,040
Speaker 1: going to Florida to finish my playing career. Seriously, you

2126
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 1: know what. Seriously, this is like a joke. Okay, but

2127
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 1: didn't make a guess. I feel like I knew who

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01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:53,800
Speaker 1: it is saying maybe the one person I know who

2129
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:58,360
Speaker 1: it is. I don't want to get it wrong because

2130
01:50:58,360 --> 01:50:59,880
Speaker 1: I think everyone's gonna get it in the next one.

2131
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:02,400
Speaker 1: But anyway, I have I have been a part of

2132
01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:07,639
Speaker 1: the team's Super Bowl success and a few losses. Said

2133
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 1: so lack. Yes, I think I think I was gonna

2134
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 1: say so after the first one. I was too obvious.

2135
01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:17,000
Speaker 1: I went out. I wasn't get the Florida thing. What

2136
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:20,519
Speaker 1: does that mean he went to Miami. Oh, I'm just thinking,

2137
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:23,479
Speaker 1: like he went to Florida like he retired. I didn't.

2138
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 1: I didn't get it. I mean it's Miami generally it

2139
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:31,320
Speaker 1: is in Florida. Was Tampa Bay? I know a different team?

2140
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:33,599
Speaker 1: Well that's you don't want to just say it? Then?

2141
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 1: I think it was well worded, like being part of

2142
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 1: he was part of in the broadcasting booth, you know,

2143
01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:43,800
Speaker 1: boy just pooh pooing it? No, I just does that

2144
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:48,519
Speaker 1: make it work? Hey? A lot of people in this

2145
01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:50,479
Speaker 1: room have Super Bowl rings, right, Like if you if

2146
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:52,320
Speaker 1: you're in the broadcast booth and you're part of it,

2147
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:55,200
Speaker 1: then I guess Fred and Paul were part of it too.

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01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 1: If you're in part of the pregame show, I think

2149
01:51:56,880 --> 01:52:03,760
Speaker 1: you're part of it. Yeah. But oh wow, thanks, let's Ken,

2150
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:09,800
Speaker 1: Caleb and Knoxville. Right. Um. He says. My viewpoint on

2151
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:12,080
Speaker 1: the season last year was Bill knew last year there

2152
01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 1: was absolutely no way they would have a shot at contending,

2153
01:52:15,040 --> 01:52:18,439
Speaker 1: and there was nobody better to get at Offensive Coiner

2154
01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 1: than waiting a year for Bill O'Brien to become available

2155
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 1: and the head coach should have been fired after meeting

2156
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:26,840
Speaker 1: with him in Sabin last offseason. Bill will never tank

2157
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:29,960
Speaker 1: or throw a season, but I truly believe last year.

2158
01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 1: But I truly believe last season was a product of

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01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 1: Bill setting things up for a longer term plan than

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01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:39,400
Speaker 1: just the twenty twenty two season. I believe he hasn't

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01:52:39,439 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 1: been vocal about Patricia and Judge doing bad jobs because

2162
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:45,960
Speaker 1: ultimately Bill knew they were put in positions to fail

2163
01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:49,599
Speaker 1: all for the betterment of the team years down the line.

2164
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 1: Not saying that ideology is right or wrong, just the

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01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:55,080
Speaker 1: only thing that makes sense to me based on Bill's

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01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:58,320
Speaker 1: track record, like he's seventy years old. Like it's just

2167
01:52:58,439 --> 01:52:59,600
Speaker 1: And I think this gets to the heart of the

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01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:02,960
Speaker 1: matter of like where's the urgency, Like you don't really

2169
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:05,720
Speaker 1: like nobody's going to be upset in seven or eight

2170
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 1: years from now when you've been out of the league

2171
01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 1: for four years and the team stinks, like they just

2172
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:12,720
Speaker 1: loved you to see you go all in and take

2173
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:15,760
Speaker 1: advantage of what people have come to believe, you know,

2174
01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:18,240
Speaker 1: is the greatest coach of all time. And that's that

2175
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:20,800
Speaker 1: lack of urgency. I think it just permeates the last

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01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:23,240
Speaker 1: three seasons, and I don't. I don't get it. I don't.

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01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 1: It's like it's like somebody who's coaching like they're gonna

2178
01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:27,920
Speaker 1: coach forever. Mister Kraft made that clear when we were

2179
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:31,559
Speaker 1: in Arizona that he is looking to see a change

2180
01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:37,880
Speaker 1: this season, like playoffs, playoffs, not in a couple of years.

2181
01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 1: Last year was to win playoff games. This year it

2182
01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:42,320
Speaker 1: was just to make the playoffs. Do you think this

2183
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:44,360
Speaker 1: year he does think he's going to coach forever, like

2184
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:47,519
Speaker 1: not forever, but like you know, like like he's he's

2185
01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:49,720
Speaker 1: he's wired that way to think that he may. I

2186
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:53,240
Speaker 1: don't think he thinks he's done anytime soon. Yeah, right,

2187
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:55,559
Speaker 1: So maybe in his head, like we're all saying, oh, well,

2188
01:53:55,560 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 1: how many more years is a seven year old coach?

2189
01:53:57,320 --> 01:54:01,040
Speaker 1: Half maybe he's like ten Like I and I think Evin,

2190
01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:03,040
Speaker 1: I think that part of his philosophy, which I really

2191
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:06,799
Speaker 1: like generally as a philosophy, is just focusing on the immediate,

2192
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:09,479
Speaker 1: immediate right now, you know, And I think like that

2193
01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:11,920
Speaker 1: almost might be maybe part of the problem at the

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01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 1: end here is that you've been so dedicated to not

2195
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:16,439
Speaker 1: worrying about, you know, the next couple of years or

2196
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:18,759
Speaker 1: how things are falling into place. You're just methodically building

2197
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:20,599
Speaker 1: a team like you always have that you're gonna miss out.

2198
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:22,760
Speaker 1: Maybe we all have it wrong and he we got

2199
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:25,960
Speaker 1: the wrong record that he's after. Maybe he's going after

2200
01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:28,800
Speaker 1: the oldest coach ever in the NFL record. That's a

2201
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:32,320
Speaker 1: great reason. I'm not going to get that. I'm only

2202
01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 1: kidding at and you don't have to get so serious.

2203
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 1: But what was Levi? Huh was it Levi? Who was

2204
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 1: the oldest? I don't know, Mar, we should find that out. Probably,

2205
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 1: what do you think the number is? Like, what's the

2206
01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 1: age of the oldest coach ever in the NFL? Seventy four?

2207
01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying eighty two. I was going to say eighty two,

2208
01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:59,760
Speaker 1: eighty zero? Dous a look it up. Meanwhile, I'll read

2209
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 1: Drew and Bradford's email. When the Patriots drafted fifteenth overall,

2210
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:06,840
Speaker 1: there was already the question in the media whether Bill

2211
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:09,880
Speaker 1: really thought Mac was their guy because the Patriots didn't

2212
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:12,360
Speaker 1: trade up to get him. Was the value for a

2213
01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:16,920
Speaker 1: consensus first round caliber quarterback at pick fifteen was too

2214
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:19,480
Speaker 1: much to pass on? During the draft, there was a

2215
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 1: lot of reports Bill wanted the guard Elijah Vera Tucker,

2216
01:55:24,040 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 1: but the Jets drafted him before the Patriots pick. With

2217
01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:32,120
Speaker 1: the significant differences in Robert Crafts and Bill's comments towards

2218
01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 1: macdus offseason, combined with Bill's refusal to Backmack at any

2219
01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:38,960
Speaker 1: point in time, do you think it is possible that

2220
01:55:39,080 --> 01:55:41,840
Speaker 1: Bill got a director from above that they needed to

2221
01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:44,760
Speaker 1: draft a rookie quarterback in the twenty twenty one draft

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01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:49,920
Speaker 1: if one was still available. No, yeah, I don't. I

2223
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think so. I think there was.

2224
01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean, there's definitely everything he said is definitely like

2225
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:05,640
Speaker 1: sort of out there as potential factors and why they

2226
01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 1: took him in and whatnot, and the fact that they

2227
01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 1: were they needed a quarterback clearly and they would contently

2228
01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:14,680
Speaker 1: just wait it out and whatever one was there they

2229
01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 1: were going to take. So a lot of people were like, well,

2230
01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 1: they didn't love him because of that. The rest of it,

2231
01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:21,720
Speaker 1: who knows for sure. So I got the list of

2232
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:24,640
Speaker 1: the oldest coaches NFL history. It's actually pretty interesting. Um

2233
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:27,520
Speaker 1: the coach, the coach who coached at the oldest ages.

2234
01:56:27,680 --> 01:56:30,240
Speaker 1: We should probably do a trivia for it. Because he

2235
01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:34,440
Speaker 1: was a fairly prominent Patriots coach recently, like within the

2236
01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 1: last twenty years he coached. I don't want to give

2237
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 1: any more away. Well to say it, well, Romeo Cornell

2238
01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 1: coached it at seventy three was when he filled in,

2239
01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 1: I guess for the Texans. Seventy three was the oldest

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01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:50,400
Speaker 1: before that. There's no coach and the coaches that have

2241
01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:53,800
Speaker 1: coached over seventy or Gunther Cunningham coach to seventy, Alexanders

2242
01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:56,840
Speaker 1: coach to seventy one, Marv Levus seventy two, George Hallis

2243
01:56:56,960 --> 01:57:03,040
Speaker 1: was seventy two, four wins, Hollis was seventy two. He

2244
01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:05,960
Speaker 1: coached for forty seven. I'm surprised that it wasn't higher

2245
01:57:06,040 --> 01:57:09,360
Speaker 1: than that. Yeah, and now I know he's going for

2246
01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:12,840
Speaker 1: that record oldest coach well, and he's got it. I

2247
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 1: don't know when the last posted, but it was one.

2248
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:17,480
Speaker 1: Bill was sixty nine, so I guess that's the last year.

2249
01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 1: But he was at forty five years at that point.

2250
01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:22,600
Speaker 1: So I mean it just in terms of coaching longevity,

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01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 1: Hollis coach forty seven years and Bill will I guess

2252
01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 1: would be forty seven this year. So holbready years did

2253
01:57:27,680 --> 01:57:32,120
Speaker 1: uh Shuler coach, not on the list, not on the

2254
01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:37,920
Speaker 1: top ten. Arians got on it at sixteen shorter. Some

2255
01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:41,600
Speaker 1: might say, you guys are the worst. Wait, he said,

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01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:44,880
Speaker 1: Arians was what? Uh just? I mean? He was sixty

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01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:52,520
Speaker 1: nine but twenty five years acted well? All right, good

2258
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:55,960
Speaker 1: ending to the show. All right, we'll be bad Thursday

2259
01:57:56,040 --> 01:58:00,320
Speaker 1: with another edition of Patriots Unfiltered till then. Thanks for listening.

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