1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam, this is John, and we are 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: the founding hosts of Okay Storytime podcasts. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: And we have some foundational stories coming up for you. 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: But the thing is this foundation needs a little support 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: from these sponsors. So stick around two minutes and we'll 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: get into the episode. 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 3: My relationship is being strained because my boyfriend is a 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 3: poor sport. Oh what a sore loser. Boy friend. Fifty 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: Mail and I fifty female are at an impasse over numbers. 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 3: Not those numbers lol, but together eighteen months not living 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: together in ages a little loose for usual reasons. By 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: the way, this comes from outspoken person And if you 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: want to spit your own stories, go to the r 14 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: slash Okay story Time. 15 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 4: Separate it. 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 3: So we bonded over the love of a very difficult sport. 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 3: He introduced me to rugby the community and opened a 18 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 3: lot of doors for me. The first nine months to 19 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: a year was fabulous. We worked so hard to level up, 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 3: so many great days, weeks, weekends, so much mutual support 21 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 3: and joy. So what's the problem. He's always disappointed by 22 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 3: his competition results despite a lot of hard work and 23 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 3: money invested, and gets super grumpy. He's disappointed even when 24 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: he actually did quite well. He always beats me, but 25 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 3: I'm closing ground if I try to talk at all 26 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: about the results, rankings, numbers to gain insight and help 27 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 3: us train smarter. He gets annoyed and shays I'm violating 28 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: his boundary of not discussing numbers. But that means I 29 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: also can't talk about my own results, my own wins, 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 3: my own progress, without running the risk of violating whose boundary. 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm seeing sides of him now that 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: I really don't like. He's insecure and unpredictable. He's blown 33 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 3: up a few times at me, but later he doesn't 34 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: even seem to remember, so trying to talk through them 35 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: doesn't happen. He likes to remind me that he's the 36 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: member at the expensive clubs, and Loki threatens to exclude 37 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: me when he's mad at me about something. I've put 38 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,279 Speaker 3: in a lot of work to build our social circle 39 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: and community, and that is both scary and appalling to 40 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: me that he can so easily exclude me from the 41 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: clubs where social events happen. A few months ago, I 42 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: placed highly in my division in a really big competition, 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: my first big award. He missed the awards ceremony to 44 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: hang out with a friend. He acted like my disappointment 45 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: in him not being there to celebrate with me was unreasonable. 46 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: He's currently stonewalling me. Yesterday he brought up his disappointing 47 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 3: performance at a recent event. I made the mistake of 48 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: looking up a number in the post results and shared 49 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 3: it with him. He got irritated and said he was 50 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: tired of telling me to stop talking about the numbers 51 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: and that he had a decision to make. He didn't 52 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: care that he was the one that brought it up. 53 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: He hung up on me. I sent a short apology 54 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 3: text no response of any kind. That was twenty four 55 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: hours ago. He usually reappears after a few days and 56 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 3: pretends like nothing happened. I don't think he's upset that 57 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 3: I'm improving much faster than he is. I think he's 58 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: grappling with his own disappointment and feeling like he might 59 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: not be able to do as well as he wants, 60 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 3: no matter how hard he works. He's someone who's been 61 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 3: good at almost everything he's ever done. I've tried PEP talks, 62 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: offered to help in any way with tactical training support. 63 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: I've tried just listening and empathizing, but it's getting old. 64 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: I think he's a bit delusional. We're competing against guys 65 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 3: who are much younger, twenty to thirty years younger, and 66 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 3: he keeps injuring himself with overtraining and ignoring the advice 67 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: of literally everyone, including his idols. It's exhausting, and I'm 68 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 3: tired of trying to manage his moodiness flashes of anger 69 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: and trying to offer support. Reddit lay it on me. 70 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: How would you characterize or interpret his behavior? Am I 71 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: promoting it by violating his boundary? Is that even a boundary? 72 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: It feels like a rule? What would you do if 73 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: you were me? And there are some releman comments, but 74 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 3: what would you do if you were op Ah? 75 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 5: Like it's hard because I would want to just try 76 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 5: to talk to him and be like, hey, so it's 77 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 5: really difficult for me, Like I don't want to cross 78 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 5: your boundaries. But it's difficult when like this is how 79 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 5: people talk about this. Yeah, but it seems like he's 80 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 5: so like unresponsive to any sort of conversation, Like he 81 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 5: just shuts down any sort of conversation about the boundaries. 82 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I think you have that conversation, you say, 83 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: I don't really appreciate how you've been talking to me 84 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 3: about this, And honestly, I feel like you guys, I mean, 85 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: if you can't communicate and play this game in a 86 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 3: respectful way, I don't know if you guys can play 87 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: together anymore. 88 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 4: Yeah. 89 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: Maybe. I mean like it's I feel like you guys 90 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: are on a route right now that will end in 91 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: your relationship ending because he's not listening to you. He's 92 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: been kind of rude. Yeah, and I feel like, if 93 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 3: you want to protect your relationship, I don't know if 94 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: you guys can play together. Yeah. Maybe relevant comments Taylor 95 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 3: five says childish. He should be supportive and encouraging and 96 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 3: happy he has found a partner he can play a 97 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: sport with a common interest is awesome. I don't want 98 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: to know what sport, just to see if he's being 99 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: extra childish or not not throwing a temper tantrum like 100 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: a year old that lost a race at school. Opie says. 101 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 3: It's scored on both points accuracy and speed. He pitched 102 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 3: temper tantrums at two matches last year. He did apologize 103 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: profusely for those, and I told him if he ever 104 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 3: does that again we are done so, Dan says, evidence 105 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 3: based thinking clears this up fast. It teaches us not 106 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: to guess at motives, not to justify bad behavior, and 107 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: not to argue over labels like boundary or rule. We 108 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 3: focus on patterns. We watch what people do, not what 109 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: they say. Here's what he does. He shuts you down 110 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: when you try to celebrate or grow. He explodes at you, 111 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 3: forgets and refuses to talk it through. He threatens to 112 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: exclude you from the community he helped you enter. He 113 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: disappears when he is upset and returns like nothing happened. 114 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: Ebt would teach you this. Those are not signs of 115 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: someone protecting a boundary. Those are signs of someone protecting control. 116 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: A boundary what you set for yourself to say calm 117 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: and safe. A rule is what you force on someone 118 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: else to say in power. You're not violating a boundary, 119 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: You're violating the story. He wants to live in, one 120 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: where he's the mentor, the center, the champion you growth. 121 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 3: Your growth threatens that story, so he punishes you for it. 122 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: If this is what it looks like when you're winning, 123 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: what will it look like when you're losing. Let the 124 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: evidence lead the way Opie says, OMG, thank you so much. 125 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 3: I really needed to hear that. He does talk about 126 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 3: my successes a lot to others. He likes the association 127 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: of being there to watch mouthsaying open. He says and 128 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 3: does a lot of encouraging, supportive things, but he definitely 129 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: has to exert control. He'll invite me to train with 130 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 3: him at a very nice range, but he insists we 131 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: train his way, and Loki snipes at me if I 132 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 3: want to do something different. He tells me I'm training wrong. 133 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 3: He'll invite others at the last minute and then be mad. 134 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 3: I'm refrustrated at driving hours round trips to get in 135 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 3: very little training time. He also lied to me about 136 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: wanting to train alone one weekend when he was actually 137 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 3: going out of state to train with some really cool people. 138 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: I did place higher than him at a very big 139 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: event last year, but we were both injured and neither 140 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: of us performed well. I didn't tell him the results. 141 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: Someone else did, and it put him in such a 142 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: bad move. He spent the next day correcting my behavior 143 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: in such weird ways, like I was an incompetent child. 144 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: He did not like it when I called him out 145 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: I mean, like, what's this sounds like a bad relationship. 146 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 5: It sounds like he just has these personal issues that 147 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 5: he needs to work on. 148 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like I don't know. 149 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 5: I mean I if Obi really wants to put an 150 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 5: effort to make this work, maybe maybe she can talk 151 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 5: to him and be like, hey, like, we I joined 152 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 5: this because it looked like you had a lot of fun, 153 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 5: but it doesn't seem like you're having fun with it anymore? 154 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, how can I help you have. 155 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 5: More fun with it without just like ignoring what's happening? 156 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 4: You know? 157 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you say, hey, can't talk to me 158 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 3: like that? 159 00:07:59,080 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 4: Is that? 160 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:04,119 Speaker 3: Okay? I feel disrespected? Call it, yeah, call out his behavior, 161 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: which it seems like you've have been doing again. I really, 162 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,119 Speaker 3: I really don't think that you guys, as of now, 163 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: can continue to play this game together and also be 164 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: in a relationship. Soak Dan again. Is support that disappears 165 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: the moment you grow stronger. Real support you asked earlier 166 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: if you were promoting this by violating his boundary. In 167 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: my opinion, no, have you ever sat him down calmly 168 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: and asked him straight up, why do you get so 169 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: upset when I improve or bring up numbers, because if 170 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 3: you have not, that is the next step before making 171 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: a final call, not to fix him, but to gather 172 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: one last piece of evidence about whether he can even 173 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: have that conversation without deflecting, attacking, or stonewalling. Yeah, if 174 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: he cannot have it, you already know the answer. If 175 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: he can have it but blames you again, you already 176 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 3: know the answer. Hope, he says, thank you. I have 177 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 3: asked him about the over the top reaction to the numbers. 178 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: He says he doesn't understand them. He's not good at map. 179 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: His idols will tell him to work on something and 180 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 3: tell him why the numbers they are tracking for him. 181 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: He is grateful to them and doesn't blow up them. 182 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: He'd get blackballed if he did. But he insists, I'm 183 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 3: violating his boundary, this absolute prohibition against talking about any 184 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: of the numbers. He almost always deflects, attacks and stone walls. 185 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 3: When I try to broach topic with him, he twists 186 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: it all around. He insists, I tell him when something 187 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: is bothering me, but when I do, he tells me 188 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 3: I'm wrong. I rarely bring up anything. It's too exhausting 189 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: to go round and round around on the straw man, 190 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: he throws out. So Dan says, in your opinion, what 191 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: will the next eighteen months look like? And are you 192 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 3: willing to endure them? Ope, he says, good question. You've 193 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: really helped me unpack how damaging the behavior patterns are. 194 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: Obviously I didn't share the long list of positive behavior, 195 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 3: but I'm not sure that list actually matters. He has 196 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: previously expressed a very high desire to remain friends no 197 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: matter what I think. If I break up with him, however, 198 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 3: he will exclude me and malign me in subtle ways 199 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: from the community. I've seen him try to squeeze out 200 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: other people. I'm starting to think that maybe it would 201 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 3: be good if he just keeps stonewalling me. I've already 202 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: cried most of the tears. If he doesn't reach out, 203 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: it seems pointless to even try to have a breakup conversation. 204 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 3: As the hours tick by, the silence is deafening. But 205 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 3: We've been here before, and he SLINKs back after a 206 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 3: few days, and each time I'm more wary, less open, 207 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 3: less engaged, less enthusiastic. He's unaliving the relationship one outburst 208 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 3: at a time. If he does reach out, if the 209 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 3: cycle holds that I need a response. I don't think 210 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: he'll apologize or acknowledge the damage that stonewalling me does. 211 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: He will feel justified since I violated his boundary. M 212 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: Bosu says, eighteen months together, you're closing in on him. 213 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 3: He stonewalls you and refuses to celebrate your wins even 214 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 3: when he does perform. Well, girl, leave him literally in 215 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: the dust behind you. You did the work for the 216 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: social clubs and community. You're clearly a supportive person. The 217 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 3: community you built will still be there. Heck, he will 218 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 3: too at the events, but you're the one with friends. 219 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 3: And even if this wasn't a shared sport, would he 220 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: celebrate your success elsewhere? Would you give up the sport 221 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 3: so he can have it? Would you be willing to 222 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 3: agree to not talk about the sport at all to 223 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: keep the relationship? Edit? Ad Not discussing numbers can definitely 224 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: be a valid boundary, But in that case, he shouldn't 225 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: be discussing the results at all or complaining about them 226 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 3: without the preface that he isn't looking for a solution, 227 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 3: just a place to vent. Opie says, thank you. He 228 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: really does pretend that he's excited for my successes, but 229 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: I'm starting to think he knows that it would reflect 230 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: badly on him if he didn't. It's feeling more like 231 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: a social manipulation than actual joy for me. I'm not 232 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 3: going to give up the sports. I think he will 233 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 3: probably quit in frustration, and to be honest, I've lost 234 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: so much respect for him for how he handles his frustration. 235 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 3: It is so immature. I'm not willing to give up 236 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: the sport to text the relationship we've both been all 237 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 3: in for eighteen months, and other than his childishness about it, 238 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 3: I'm thoroughly enjoying it. He also said that people who 239 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: talk about their work are boring. I've been swamped at 240 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: work recently, but I will talk about it for maybe 241 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 3: ten minutes over several hours of other conversation. Yeah, it's 242 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: time to cut him loose. Oh, there we go. She's 243 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: leaving him. Good, good, good Mob Sue says, you'll be 244 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 3: happier and you'll probably see a significant growth in your 245 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 3: skills without him bogging you down. Sounds like any topic 246 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: that isn't led and controlled by him is boring to him, 247 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 3: So simply let him know you don't want him bored 248 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 3: any longer. Ope says yes, the boring comments are so mean. 249 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: He pretends he's joking, but he's not. He has asserted 250 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 3: that if a story isn't entertaining to him, he doesn't 251 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 3: want to hear it. Illustrious Sleep says he sounds like 252 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: a child who doesn't handle it well when others get 253 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: better than him in less time. It's like he's pouting. 254 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: Because he's the one who introduced you to the sport. 255 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 3: You're doing much better than he expected. Maybe he feels 256 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: threatened by that because it sounds like he's already hard 257 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: on himself. I don't like that he's dismissive of your 258 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 3: accomplishments and getting mad about things that aren't even worth 259 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 3: getting mad about. This is the total opposite of the 260 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: first year you described his boundary of not being able 261 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: to say literally any numbers when it comes to this sport. 262 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 3: He's unreasonable and feels like a tactic to control what 263 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: you say and give him an excuse to blow up 264 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: if you violate it. I also don't like how he 265 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: just pops back up at his convenience, acting like nothing happened. 266 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: No apology, no acknowledgment of your text or that he 267 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: may have hurt you. Or even that the last interaction 268 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 3: was a negative one. As a middle aged woman myself, 269 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: ain't nobody got time for that kind of immature bs. 270 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 3: I'd want a partner who is supportive and communicative at 271 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 3: the very least, even if he's not happy with his 272 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: own performance, he should be willing to put that aside 273 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: to support and celebrate someone he cares about. Hope he 274 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: says thank you. I've been wondering if he's looking for 275 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 3: reasons to blow up at me, and that's what it 276 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: feels like. Oh yeah, it feels like literally every time 277 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 3: you try and talk to him, he's like, oh I 278 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: hate you. 279 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, which is so frustrating to be a part of 280 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 5: because it's so unpredictable because like, for you, you're just 281 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 5: you're just talking about the sports that you like, and 282 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 5: part of that and part of like knowing how to 283 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 5: improve is looking at your numbers and things like that. 284 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 5: And then he's just blowing up at you because he 285 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 5: doesn't he can't understand his own emotions and how to 286 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 5: deal with them, so he's just blaming everyone else for it, 287 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 5: and you're the closest one. 288 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, And even when you didn't tell him, when someone 289 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: else told him about your numbers. 290 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 5: He got mad at you. Yeah, yeah, that's that's ridiculous. Yeah, 291 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 5: so you planted them. He's too old to be this immature. 292 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 3: Immature. Yeah, it's not attractive exactly. I feel completely blindsided 293 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 3: by some of his reactions to what seem like normal 294 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: interactions and requests. I'm getting jumpy and wary. And there 295 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: is an update. A week after the first post, a 296 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 3: week of the silent treatment, he started reaching out a 297 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 3: short text, a link to an informational article that was 298 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: actually helpful. Little things like that. I gave General Sash 299 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: neutral responses, but otherwise didn't engage. On day ten of 300 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: this round of silent treatment, he called to say he 301 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 3: thought he had a heart attack and spent a few 302 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: days in the hospital. But I know for certain he 303 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: hosted an event he excluded me from on day four 304 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: and participated in two sporting competitions that same weekend. I 305 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: gave him a little grace because he does have a 306 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: never ending string of health problems of his own doing. 307 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: But in the back of my head I just kept thinking, liar, liar, 308 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 3: pants on fire. He turned back on all the charm, 309 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 3: constant attention arranging, really fun dates. The works. For a 310 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: few weeks, it seemed like we were in a really 311 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 3: good place again. But a few weeks later, boom, he 312 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: blew up again at me in a parking lot when 313 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 3: he was frustrated that he read an email from someone 314 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: else wrong and drove away in a huff. And now 315 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 3: he's gone silent for another week. Break up see break up. 316 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 5: These are literally like textbook signs of a like manipulator, 317 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 5: self absorbed person. 318 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: Like you literally did nothing wrong. Yeah, and he is 319 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: throwing a temper tantrum because someone emailed him I don't. 320 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 5: Even know, Like after he goes to comes back and 321 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 5: starts love bombing you to get you to stay, and 322 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 5: then again unpredictable, he just like blows. 323 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: Up, which is so stressful for someone to do it. Yeah, 324 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 3: don't deal with it, don't deal with it, leave him bye. 325 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 4: Yep. 326 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm not falling for that again. I joined 327 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 3: a different sports club two hours from where he lives, 328 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: with only a little overlap in the membership between the clubs. 329 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: Filled my social calendar, hit the gym. Thanks Reddit for 330 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 3: the reality check. So what advice do I need now? 331 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: I sure could use some help with phrases. I could 332 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: use when we run into each other in the future. 333 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 3: I'm pretty certain he'll approach me at upcoming sporting events 334 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: and we'll run into each other at social events. There 335 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: is a little bit left to his story. Do you 336 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 3: have any final lots? Wondering what she could say to him, 337 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 3: I think she goes. I think you talk all about 338 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: numbers every time you see him. You're like, oh, I 339 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 3: scored this, Yeah, what do you score? Did really well? 340 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 5: I sup I heard that, Like someone did lower than me, 341 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 5: got these numbers. Yeah, yeah, so nice that OP can 342 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 5: have just. 343 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 3: Like a little you know, petty Yeah, this is yours, 344 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 3: this is your sports nemesis. Yeah. 345 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 5: Well, I'm just thinking, like, like, you can have some satisfaction, 346 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 5: some petty satisfaction that you are better than him, and 347 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 5: this is Yeah. 348 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 3: You can do some crap talking. You know, it's good, 349 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: But there is a little bit left to this story. 350 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: I also need some phrases for the folks that can 351 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 3: keep asking what happened, where he's been lately, et cetera. 352 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 3: They're very persistent. I don't want to mine or disparage him, 353 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: but I do expect him to subtly manipulate people against me. 354 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 3: I've seen him push out or subtly blackball others. But 355 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: he's so darned charming and good looking. It gets away 356 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 3: with an absurd amount of unnice behavior, like everyone is 357 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 3: under his spell. War realm in comments, Anna musadem Bell. Okay, remember, 358 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: do not engage with him emotionally. This is the type 359 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 3: of small, petty personality that lives to control or get 360 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,719 Speaker 3: a rise out of people who he cannot control. And 361 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: you can bet he will be doing whatever he can 362 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 3: to get under your skin. But you're clearly smart and 363 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 3: prepared and you'll lock in when the moment comes. I 364 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 3: hope he says you nailed it. As my head clears, 365 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 3: I can see so many petty ways he exerts control 366 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: over others, so many petty ways. Ugh, and folks, that's 367 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 3: that's the end of that story. Yeah. 368 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 5: I feel like with someone like that, it sucks that 369 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 5: they are so dank charming. 370 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, so dang charm. 371 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 5: All you can do is just focus on yourself. Yeah, 372 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 5: focus on you know, hopefully your relationships with others don't 373 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 5: get you know, skewed by this, but focus on your 374 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 5: craft and your sport. 375 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, folks, because on getting better. I asked my boyfriend 376 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: to get a job. He got offended. I don't want 377 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 3: a job. 378 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 5: I'm currently living with my boyfriend and his dad in 379 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 5: his dad's apartment. Long story shore, I had my own apartment. 380 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 5: Some coworkers convinced me to move into their house and 381 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 5: split rent with my when my lease ended. Then all 382 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 5: of a sudden, they're selling the house and I have 383 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 5: to s get at all fun. By the way, this 384 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 5: comes from something about a plant. And if you want 385 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 5: to submit your own stories, go to the r slash 386 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 5: Okay storytime Sepreddit. So my boyfriend and his dad are 387 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 5: majorly helping me out by letting me stay here, and. 388 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 3: I appreciate every bit of it. 389 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 5: It's only temporary, less than ninety days, and just enough 390 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 5: to let me save up for a few months of 391 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 5: rent and a deposit. Anyway, I'm planning everything and looking 392 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 5: at places and trying to do math, and it's a 393 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 5: little bit stressful because it's just going to be the 394 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 5: two of us surviving on my single income. Oh wow, 395 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 5: I du all right for myself twenty five to thirty 396 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 5: thousand flat rate and usually closer to thirty five to 397 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 5: forty thousand with raises. Some parts of my positions have 398 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 5: sales type bonus incentives that are performance based and not guaranteed. 399 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 5: My boyfriend has never worked and always lived with his 400 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 5: parents since high school. At the moment, he stays home 401 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 5: and smokes a large amount of Devil's lettuce, plays video games, 402 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 5: and looks at hen tie all day. I work full 403 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 5: time with nine hour days during the week, and I 404 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 5: also work six hours on Saturdays. He doesn't really clean 405 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 5: or anything, so I'll usually come home from work and 406 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 5: start dinner and clean some things before I join him 407 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 5: for a dungeon or two. 408 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 3: In war Craft. This is like what like a cat 409 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 3: would do. Yeah, while you have a cat that plays 410 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 3: video games, dude, leave her eats your human food. What 411 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 3: does he do? 412 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 4: Leave him? 413 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely. 414 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 5: Today I was really crunching some numbers at work and 415 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 5: send him a message asking if there was any way 416 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 5: that he'd consider working to contribute, Like if there's maybe 417 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 5: a part time job at a pet store because he 418 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 5: loves animals, or if I could pay to put him 419 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 5: through some college courses to help find. 420 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 3: A career that he'd enjoy. 421 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 5: He got pretty upset that I asked, and I tried 422 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 5: to assure him that I was sorry and just feeling 423 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 5: a little alone in all this. I then got a 424 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 5: few messages from him explaining that he's offended that I 425 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 5: asked him to get a job, but he knows they 426 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 5: didn't mean it as an insult, so he's sucking it up. 427 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 5: And then he proceeded to explain that he's not unemployed 428 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 5: because he's lazy. He's unemployed because he's totally opposed to 429 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 5: the concept on many levels. And he went on to 430 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 5: explain that he's not mad at me, though, he's like. 431 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 3: No, I just want to live off the grid. Everyone's 432 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 3: about work, work, work, money, capitalism. Just I don't want 433 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 3: to live that way, and you coming here and saying 434 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: you need to work is offensive. 435 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 5: It just goes against my in my internal and spiritual 436 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 5: beliefs to be locked down in a confined. 437 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 3: Job all day to kill ry a king. 438 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 5: He told me that he'd rather actually pass away than 439 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 5: be employed, and he said that it's due to how 440 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,959 Speaker 5: much of your time it takes, how it's only necessary 441 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 5: to due to the status quo of capitalism, et cetera. 442 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 5: I kind of lost my cool and asked him, isn't 443 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 5: saying all of that kind of hypocritical when you're just 444 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 5: intending to live off of everyone else that does it, 445 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 5: and then he got pretty pissed. Anyway, I guess I 446 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 5: just realized that if I were anyone else reading this, 447 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 5: I have given into the what the ef for you? 448 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 5: Doing this is stupid idea by now. So if you've 449 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 5: made it this far, I appreciate it. All aspects of 450 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 5: the relationship are great except for this, but I guess 451 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 5: it's a pretty large portion, and it's pretty much me saying, man, 452 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 5: this house is fully furnished and the curtains are beautiful, 453 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 5: but the whole place is on fire, so that kind 454 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 5: of sucks. 455 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, great example, you have a pet. He doesn't 456 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 3: want to work, he doesn't believe in work. 457 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 5: So I guess are there any suggestions for how to 458 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 5: make him see that this is going to end us? 459 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 5: Because I'm honestly feeling pretty selfish right now, and in 460 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 5: his head, I think I'm attacking him, and I don't 461 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 5: want to be sorry if this is disjointed, as heck, 462 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 5: it's been a long worked in there is an update. 463 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 3: But I have a really really good solution for a 464 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 3: p Yeah breakup. Yeah, that that'll really show him that 465 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 3: this is going to be the end of us. I'm 466 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 3: sorry he needs a freaking wake up call. Yeah. If 467 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 3: if you do not want your life to be about work, 468 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,239 Speaker 3: that's fine. There are some people who don't want to 469 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 3: like find a career and like really work super hard 470 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 3: on that career and you work their way up the 471 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 3: ladder and stuff. You don't have to do that. If 472 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 3: you just want to do like a work in a 473 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: restaurant all your life, get tips, quit when you want, 474 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 3: go on trave you know, that's fine. Yeah, this though, 475 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 3: this is your free loading off of your girlfriend. Absolutely 476 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: because it's so interesting because I don't know, maybe I'll 477 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 3: start to ramble, but I just have a lot of 478 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 3: thoughts on this because at one point I fell into 479 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 3: like I saw a lot of videos on TikTok and 480 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, we we aren't meant to work. 481 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 5: This sucks that like we have to do this and 482 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 5: we have to like you know, go to school and 483 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 5: all this stuff. 484 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 3: Like we're just meant to hang out have fun. 485 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 5: But I honestly don't think that we are, Like biologically, 486 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 5: I don't think we are anymore. 487 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 3: I mean it's I don't think that we were supposed 488 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 3: to work five days a week for eight hours on 489 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: you know, on computers per se. But we all we've 490 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 3: always worked. 491 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 5: We've worked to get food exactly like that, you know, 492 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 5: That's how I think of it. It's like, it's like 493 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 5: if we were not working, if we were just like 494 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 5: on our own, it's like survival style. 495 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 3: Aid doing so much more work. 496 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 5: You were just you would spend all day looking for 497 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 5: food and looking for all this stuff. And now that 498 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 5: we have like grocery stores, we don't do that anymore. 499 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 5: So it's like we still, I think, are like meant 500 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 5: to be busy. 501 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: Maybe not yeah, on a computer all day? Yeah, but yeah, 502 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 3: I mean I was definitely totally different type of work. 503 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 3: But anyway, there is an update. 504 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 5: I brought up a lot of the points that you 505 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 5: guys brought up in the last thread, including how would 506 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 5: you feel if I stopped working? And I actually threw 507 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 5: out an ultimatum of if you had to choose between 508 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 5: getting a job and being with me, which would it be. 509 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 5: I wish I could tell you I took the calm, rational, 510 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 5: mature route and just walked out to a new life. 511 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 3: I decided to have a tiny bit of fun instead. 512 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 5: I've got a decent amount of money saved up since 513 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 5: his dad didn't charge me rent and. 514 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 3: That was the entire purpose of me staying here. 515 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 5: Lee's notes, I prefer to carry my own weight and 516 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 5: still contributed as far as preparing meals, buying food, and 517 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 5: buying drinks. I put my notice in at my previous 518 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 5: job without informing my boyfriend. Once the notice period was up, 519 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 5: I stayed home every day. Look at you wake up 520 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 5: in the morning and he says, don't you have work today? 521 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 5: And I'd be like, eh, I don't feel like it. Wait, 522 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 5: did she say that she had like a time off 523 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 5: or something that she could take. No, she's just she 524 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 5: has money saved up, so she's just like quitting her 525 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 5: job right now. 526 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 3: I know this is commitment. Commitments A bit love that. 527 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: Okay. 528 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 5: The first few days he was like, awesome, and we 529 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 5: sat around playing games. After the first week, he starts 530 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 5: getting a little anxious and he's like, so, what's up 531 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 5: with work? And I tell him, oh, you know, just 532 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 5: not feeling like it. After the second week, he says, 533 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 5: what's going on? And I tell him that I thought 534 00:25:59,000 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 5: that what he said. 535 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 3: I really agree with him. 536 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 5: Yes, I don't feel like working and contributing to the 537 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 5: machine either. 538 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: So I'll just stay here with him, and he flipped out. 539 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 5: He started telling me how irresponsible that is, how I 540 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 5: have to work, basically the entire diatribe. And I should 541 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 5: have been screaming at this kid the entire time we 542 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 5: were together. 543 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 3: Except at me. Uh. Because I didn't go to work 544 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 3: for two weeks. 545 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 5: I kind of figured that would happen, and I wanted 546 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 5: something drastic to point out to him that, as I 547 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 5: said before, he is a hypocrite. 548 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 3: Because he is. 549 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 5: I have to admit that a small part of me 550 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 5: was kind of hoping that this would be a revelation 551 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 5: to him and helping him change. 552 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: But no, he just couldn't fathom how I. 553 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 5: Could possibly do something so ridiculous and blah blah blah. Anyway, 554 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 5: what I actually did after leaving my job was find 555 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 5: a part time job and go down to the local 556 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 5: community college to pull the trigger on something I've wanted 557 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 5: to do for a couple of years now, enroll in 558 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 5: a welding program. 559 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 3: I also found a. 560 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 5: Roommate in the area who's cool with my animals, and 561 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 5: that way I can split my bills and not be 562 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 5: strapped for cash. Plus, I sometimes drive for Uber and 563 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 5: this is an okay market with a decent bar scene 564 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 5: on the weekend, so if I need a little extra, 565 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 5: there's that. So I've moved out and moved on, and 566 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 5: you know, I'm not even that sad because I got 567 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 5: closure of that whole event. I'm also pursuing the cliche 568 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 5: of hitting the gym more slash at all and hoping 569 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 5: to lose a little weight, though I did just lose 570 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 5: one to eighty useless pounds, so maybe that's enough for now. 571 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 3: Nice. 572 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 5: Anyway, I know I didn't go about it in the 573 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 5: right way, but I thought that if any of you 574 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 5: were curious to know, here's how it went. Thanks Reddit, 575 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 5: and there isn't edit. Sweet Jesus, this exploded and you 576 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 5: are all very kind and amazing. Lots of people pming 577 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 5: me and commenting about his actual reaction, But to be honest, 578 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 5: I feel like I'd have to be a trained. 579 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 3: Therapist to even figure it out. 580 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 5: There is a little bit more into the story, but 581 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 5: uh yeah, I'm so glad. I really hope that what 582 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 5: she does is just like he's like yelling all this 583 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 5: stuff and she just goes to like bedroom wistling that 584 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,959 Speaker 5: grabs a mirror and just let places it right in 585 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 5: front of him. 586 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 3: That's you keep going, keep going, you're looking at the 587 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 3: man in the mirror. Yeah. 588 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 5: Exactly after he flipped out of me, I pointed out 589 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 5: that it really was just say what's good for the 590 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 5: goose scenario. He got kind of quiet and said that 591 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 5: I was being mean. I told him that it had 592 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 5: become pretty obvious that trying to talk to him about 593 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 5: everything wasn't doing me much good, so I had decided 594 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 5: to actively show him. He told me that it doesn't 595 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 5: change anything about the way he feels about not working. 596 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 5: I told him that he's got to find some way 597 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 5: to contribute or I walk. He told me that it 598 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 5: would be my decision. So it was basically to this day. 599 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 5: He still believes that he's right, or at the very least, 600 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 5: he hasn't done anything wrong. There's some sort of disconnect 601 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 5: in his brain where he can't connect the part of 602 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 5: him that loves me and wants to take care of 603 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 5: me with the part of him that doesn't want to 604 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 5: work and wants to live off his parents forever. 605 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 3: He's got to have pretty parents. Yeah, and that is 606 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 3: the end of that story. Well, Okay, this man is rich, 607 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 3: doesn't want to work, and thinks that he thinks that 608 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: he can put that mindset on everyone. Yeah, I'm glad. 609 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 3: I hope that you got closure for this. 610 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 5: Sometimes with these people, I feel like that wouldn't even 611 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 5: be closure enough for me because I'd still be just 612 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 5: so enraged that that. 613 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 3: Isn't even no. It's like the type of mindset of 614 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 3: like someone's in a bad living space and the rich 615 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 3: person's like, just sit it out. 616 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 4: Sam. 617 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: Here, we're gonna get back to the stories. But here's 618 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: three of it's bads from our sponsors. My girlfriend and 619 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: I are working on our relationship, but my parents demand 620 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: we split up. Demand you not, demand you not take 621 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: get demand and shove it up. You're In December twenty 622 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: twenty three, my girlfriend twenty one female, and I twenty 623 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: one male, had been together at the time two years. 624 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: My family was hosting my dad's side for Christmas and 625 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: she was invited. However, we had my mom's side Christmas 626 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: right after this, and my girlfriend was not invited to 627 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: that one. My mom's side is just very private with 628 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: the family, and that's just always how it's been. By 629 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: the way, this comes from Big Yoshi five forty two. 630 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: If you want some of your own stories. Go to 631 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: the r slash Okay storytime Stell reread it. So what 632 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: happened is my dad's side stayed later than we all anticipated, 633 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: and when they left, we had to get ready to 634 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: leave pretty quick. We couldn't just shoot them out at 635 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: a certain time because that would be rude. Anyways, my 636 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: girlfriend had a more private Christmas gift for my mom 637 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: because she wanted to show her respect and admiration for 638 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: her because she didn't have a mom because she passed. 639 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 4: Away when she was young. Oh that is so sweet. 640 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: But that didn't happen because my mom was in go 641 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: go go mode, and I essentially had to punt out 642 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: my girlfriend, which kind of sucks. She was blocking my 643 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: car and so she had to leave so I could leave. 644 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: So she does and we didn't hug her anything. 645 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 4: She just left. 646 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: She was upset and stressed and I was too. She 647 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: left but ended up having a panic attack and called me. 648 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: I calmed her down as best I could, and then 649 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: went to the Christmas after my mom could tell I 650 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: was upset, and I told her she blew up. You 651 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: saw her actions as attention sy thinking and disrespectful to 652 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: do in her own home. She should have been gracious 653 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: she was invited and just left and thought my girlfriend 654 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: was fishing for an invite through the Christmas because like, 655 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: basically they wanted an only family Christmas. And so when 656 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: the girlfriend was rushed out, the mom's like, Oh, she's 657 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: just faking a panic attack so she could hang out 658 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: some more. 659 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 4: She just wants to. 660 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 3: Give you a gift because she doesn't have a mama. 661 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: This was the worst moment I had ever seen my girlfriend, 662 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: and partly because she was so upset, but also because 663 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: she had just suffered a severe ankle injury and she's 664 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: still recovering from that. Curly at this point, my parents 665 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: told me I needed to break up with her. Oh 666 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: oh yeah, for what happened. I refuse and we stayed together, 667 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: but she was not allowed at the house and has 668 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: not seen my family and talked to them since goodness. 669 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: That was the initial problem that started this whole mess. 670 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: We would go out on dates and hang out at school. 671 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: We went to the same community college some throughout the situation, 672 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: trying to make it work, but every time I went 673 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: home and something made out of been perfect, they blew 674 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: up on me. Every time I tried to help it, 675 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: they said they did not want to talk to her, 676 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: so I told my girlfriend not too, because I was 677 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: afraid it would make it worse. Eventually, May came and 678 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: we were set to graduate from community college. On graduation day, 679 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: I myself had some sort of anxiety attack because I 680 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: was stressed with my girlfriend being there and my family 681 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 1: being there and trying to keep them apart did not 682 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,959 Speaker 1: cause drama, and I was giving a speech I was 683 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: nervous for it. All went fine, though, but oh my god, 684 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: this family is crazy. 685 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: They literally suck, like literally here she is like so sweet, 686 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: like I want to give her a present because like, 687 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 2: you know, I don't I don't have a mom. And 688 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: then she's like, get out of your gods gud, like 689 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 2: are you a human? 690 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? Hello, it is. 691 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: It's crazy that this is sparked by someone, this this 692 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: girlfriend that just wanted to have a good relationship with 693 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: who she saw as a mother figure, and that mother 694 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: is casting her out because she had a misplaced panic attack, 695 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: you know. 696 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 4: Like so so whack. 697 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: And all went fine them and then we spent the 698 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: summer on a few dates and stuff, and my parents 699 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: still very much disapproved, and then it got ugly. Basically, 700 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: little things would happen like I feel like they do 701 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: in relationships, and they would say how awful she is. 702 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: They would not budge at all that anything they said 703 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: or claimed was wrong or maybe not one hundred percent correct. 704 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: And then my girlfriend and I were transferring to different 705 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 1: four year universities and prepared to do long distance two 706 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: and a half hours away, but my parents made it 707 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: clear they did not want me to go to her 708 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: and her to go to me. So I respected their request. 709 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,239 Speaker 1: What during my first semester, I did not drive to her. 710 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: I ended up rushing a fraternity as a junior, and 711 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: she came to my semi formal but that was it. 712 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: I saw her for my birthday in October back at home, 713 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: and the semi formerle in November, but that was it. 714 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: Also at this point, we've been together three and a 715 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: half years. Oh, so I feel like the parents are 716 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: kind of winning. During Christmas time in twenty twenty four, 717 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,479 Speaker 1: it was the same old, same old. My parents wanted 718 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: me to end things with her. I would not give 719 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: at all and made it a whole thing. When I 720 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 1: wanted to go see here for Christmas and her birthday 721 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: it's in December. I remember the comment, oh, you're still together? 722 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: And you're still doing that. 723 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 2: God. 724 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: And at this point my mom made comments about me 725 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: putting a ring on her finger and if I am 726 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: prepared to tear up the family over this. I thought 727 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 1: she was about to turn a new leaf. I'm like, oh, 728 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: she wants him. 729 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 4: To marry her. Yeah, And I was like, no, no, no, 730 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 4: if you marry her, this family is done. 731 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: So you're really going to do this, Pa, You're really 732 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 2: going to do that? 733 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 4: He this is ridiculous. Why are you letting your parents win? 734 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: Also, like you probably should put boundaries in distance yourselves 735 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: from this kind of family dynamic. 736 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm worried, Like I don't know if this is 737 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: what it is, but he's twenty one and he's probably 738 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 2: still so like, okay, I'm under the parents or whatever 739 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: that he's just like, oh, well, I have to like 740 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: obey my parents. Basically, Yeah, this isn't freaking high school, dude. 741 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 2: This is you're you're a big boy now and it's 742 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 2: okay and your parents are not on the right. You 743 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 2: have every reason to Your girlfriend was trying to do 744 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 2: a sweet thing. 745 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, goh, ridiculous, ridiculous. Well, over the semester, my mom 746 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: had made comments and things about me being away, and 747 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: I know it was hard on her and there was 748 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: a constant poll to go home, it felt like. However, 749 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: home is only an hour away from my university, so doable. 750 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: We called almost every day and checked in and still 751 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: wemaining close. Okay, so they're still talking, but again, the 752 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: transition to moving out in a way was tough. But 753 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: coming home from winter break opened up the girlfriend's situation 754 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: again and I couldn't handle it. I just wanted to 755 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: break from her, from my family, from all of it. 756 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: Looking back on it, maybe it was uncalled for for 757 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: some context. At this point, my parents looked at my 758 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 1: phone call records between me and or her What the helly? 759 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: And had me read my text between me and her 760 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: in the past. 761 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 2: What soon? Okay, mom, Mom's I'm as soon. That is diabolical, Mom, 762 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 2: I'm taking to court. 763 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: So I did not see her for Christmas, her birthday, 764 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: or New Year's and I know it hurt her, but 765 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: she sucked it up and took it because she knew 766 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: I needed this. We texted minimally and did not call. 767 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: When I got back to campus, I started talking to 768 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: her again slowly and kind of got back, but I 769 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: was so busy and still unhappy. There was a lot 770 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: with classes and fraternity things, plus extracurriculars, so I did 771 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: not have a lot of time to call and text, 772 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: and I pulled away from her. She also made some 773 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: bad choices for our relationship by going to other people 774 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: instead of me and hiding her feelings and not communicating. Eventually, 775 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: she did a few things that upset me, and I snapped, Oh, no, 776 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: it sounds like that sounds like cheating. 777 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, I guess. 778 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 4: So that sounds a little cheaty to me. Yeah, a 779 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 4: little cheaty to me. 780 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 1: But this is such a hard relationship to make work. Yeah, 781 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,240 Speaker 1: Like I'm not a her of any you know, stuff 782 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: that she did. 783 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 4: But I feel like. 784 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 2: He's like, oh, I just basically didn't see her for 785 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 2: a year. She knew she had to suck it up, 786 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 2: and it's like, no, she didn't. 787 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's like it's just you're I feel 788 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: like he's not making the right choices to nurture the 789 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: relationship into a healthy space. And what she should have 790 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 1: done is she should have probably ended things with him 791 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: instead of you know, seeking out other people. 792 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 4: But like, this is not fertile ground. It's for a 793 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 4: good relationship. 794 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 2: I can't grow nothing on this. 795 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: After I did, I initially felt fine, but I had 796 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,479 Speaker 1: this nagging feeling that wouldn't go away. It was so sad, 797 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: and I really missed her. I feel like, looking back, 798 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 1: I made a mistake and I gave up too quickly. 799 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I cracked into the pressure of everything 800 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: and broke up with her because everyone wanted me to 801 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: sew Ope did break up. After talking with my roommate, 802 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: I texted her if my girlfriend had time to talk 803 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: after about three weeks. 804 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 2: Still he still has to wait three weeks. He's like, yeah, 805 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 2: like I'm seeing my mom and like doing all this stuff, 806 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, I. 807 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: Just to talk about our hurt and try to feel better. 808 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: It was an amazing conversation, and we both realized what 809 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: we went wrong. We miss each other and we still 810 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: love each other. We both want to try again. 811 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel like these both of them 812 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 4: are not mature. 813 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 3: Call it. 814 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: The few people I'd talked to you were apprehensive but 815 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: supportive of it. 816 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 4: My parents were not. 817 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: My mom knew I was upset when I called her 818 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: one night and pushed me hard to tell her. So 819 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: I told her my girlfriend and I had talked and 820 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 1: considered getting back together. She did not take it well. 821 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: She was more upset than mad. I went home that 822 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,959 Speaker 1: weekend and talked to my parents for about three hours 823 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: about it, and they would not budget all. Your parents 824 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: are way too involved in this relationship. They think I 825 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: should stay broken up. This is a mistake to go back. 826 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: She doesn't care about me. She's manipulating me, and not 827 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: one good thing about her and not one bad thing 828 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: they have done. I would feel differently if they admitted 829 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: some fault or backed up some, but they will not. 830 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: I told them I want to go back to campus 831 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: and talk to my fraternity brothers before I decide. Then 832 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: they got upset because I act like I care more 833 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 1: about Stranger's opinions others. I care more about stange his 834 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: opinions than theirs. I went back, like I said, apprehensive 835 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 1: but supportive. This guy doesn't have good role models. 836 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 2: That is so correct. Oh my goodness. 837 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: I called my parents to definitely tell them this was happening, 838 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: but they got really mad and flipped on me. They 839 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: respectfully requested that I not do this. It's either her 840 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: or them, so weird, and I am choosing her as 841 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: what they believe. I hate being put in an ultimatum decision, 842 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 1: and I feel like that's where I'm at. It is 843 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: not about picking one or another the other. I just 844 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: want to be happy. They said a lot of hurtful 845 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: things and would not listen to me when I would speak. 846 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: They said they would no longer support this financially, and 847 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: initially I thought it would make me pay for my 848 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: own phone plan and things was fine, so during this 849 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: time I paid for those things. I spent the spring 850 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: pretty happy. Honestly. I was with the girl I love 851 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: and had a great group of friends around me, my 852 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: frat bros. I came home for summer and things were 853 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: pretty good for the most part until I wanted to 854 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 1: go see my girlfriend. It was a whole ordeal and 855 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: my parents will not allow her in my vehicle at 856 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: all to go places. This is ridiculous. This is There 857 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: are helicopter moms and then there's this. My mom was 858 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: a helicopter mom. She never did this. 859 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 2: No, Like, I mean, think about the ludicrous decision of 860 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 2: going to your kid and being again for a girl 861 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 2: who was trying to give them a present, Like basically, 862 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 2: for all we know, has done negative one hundred percent 863 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 2: anything wrong, and they're like, hey, it's either you're with 864 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 2: your like college girlfriend or you lose us as parents. 865 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 4: That's ridiculous. 866 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 2: Wow, that's that is all I can say. Wow, congratulations, 867 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 2: you've made the worst parenting decision ever. You did it 868 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 2: you bravo, bravo. 869 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll ask about her and be like, how's her 870 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: summer classes and work going. And I'm trying to be 871 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: a little more open because I became very close off 872 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 1: and wouldn't talk about her anymore. So I was confused 873 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 1: when it blew it up and they wanted to see her. 874 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: Now they want to see her. And also they haven't 875 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: been taking the money out of my phone plan and 876 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,760 Speaker 1: those few expenses while I've been home for the summer, 877 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: and when I talked about it, they said they were 878 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: going to stop. So when I was talking to my 879 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: dad and he was like, and I figured we'd do 880 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: that again, I was like, Okay, then there's another relevant updates. 881 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 2: Wow. 882 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 4: But man, it just feels. 883 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: Like these parents are so ridiculously involved to an insane degree, 884 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: and OP needs to I think. I mean, you're old enough, OP, 885 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: like grow some some go honess and and rule your 886 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: own life. Well, finish up this story, and you're I've 887 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: worked all summer to have enough money to pay for 888 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 1: school and enjoy my last full year as an undergraduates 889 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: doing it. But if they're going to take money out, 890 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: then that's all I'm going to be worried about. I'm 891 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 1: just kind of lost at the moment and super frustrated 892 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: because I can't even have an honest conversation without it 893 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,919 Speaker 1: becoming a big deal and everyone getting upset, and I. 894 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 4: Just have to take it on the chin, so to speak. 895 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: I love my girlfriend and I don't want to end 896 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: things at all, but this is just a lot on 897 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 1: the familiar side of things. All advice is appreciated. It's 898 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: just a complicated situation that I'm trying my absolute best 899 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: in and that here's. 900 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 2: The end of that story. Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. 901 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 2: Whole whole cast of characters in that one. 902 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 4: The whole cast of characters. 903 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I think, oh, I think you gotta, you 904 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: gotta Maybe I don't know of no contact, but I 905 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: definitely think you gotta go low contact. 906 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, with this person, something too, with the parents. Something 907 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,919 Speaker 2: to send the message, because I think it will take 908 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 2: a lot for the to get through there. Oh, like 909 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 2: monster parents who brains. 910 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Pata, says low contact. I'm I'm on board. 911 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,280 Speaker 2: I don't want my mom to bring her dogs on vacation. 912 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 2: Now she's upset. 913 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,439 Speaker 4: Get those dogs out of here. 914 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 2: My mom has two half Yorky, half Malt. These dogs, 915 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 2: these dogs are my mom's world. The problem is they 916 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,240 Speaker 2: are obsessed with food. They will go to any lengths 917 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 2: to get human food. It started with the bag of 918 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 2: barbecue potato chips on my kitchen counter, ripped open and devoured, 919 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 2: leaving a huge barbecue dust mess. By the way, this 920 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 2: comes from parking ratio one fifty five and if you 921 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 2: want to submit your own stories, go to the r 922 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:41,240 Speaker 2: slash Okay storytime Cebreda. Next Time was an entire pizza 923 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,879 Speaker 2: that was snatched off the table the moment I went 924 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 2: to grab sodas. 925 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,280 Speaker 4: From the kitchen, those dogs. 926 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 2: In the span of less than a minute. When I returned, 927 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 2: half the pizza was gone. The dogs were standing in 928 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,240 Speaker 2: the other half of the pizza, and there was pizza 929 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 2: sauce all over my carpets. Next get Together, they found 930 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 2: their way inside. Even though I asked my mom to 931 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 2: keep them in the backyard, they got into my kitchen 932 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 2: and tore open two bags of my hamburger buns and 933 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 2: ate about forty dollars worth of seasoned raw hamburger meat 934 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 2: and a block of cheddar cheese. 935 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 4: Those dogs must be fatigue. Those are some chok or not? 936 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 2: Holy. 937 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:19,879 Speaker 4: I also love other a team. 938 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: It's like body and God like they're breaking it all 939 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,280 Speaker 1: these like golly. 940 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 2: So at this point I told my mother her dogs 941 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 2: were not allowed in my home. 942 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: Yeah freaking grolling to the food demons. 943 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 2: Just God. She has stopped coming by altogether, which does 944 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 2: hurt my feelings because if it's a choice between her 945 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 2: kid and the dogs, she will always pick the dogs. 946 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 4: Wait her own child. 947 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 2: Yes, who is op. I'm planning a family vacation, booked 948 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 2: a nice cabin for the whole family to stay in. 949 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 2: My sister is bringing her dog, well behaved family pit, 950 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,040 Speaker 2: so I know it's going to be an issue, and 951 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 2: I tell my mom her dogs are not allowed to 952 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 2: come with us. I don't want to spend the whole 953 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 2: weekend making sure not a single scrap of food is 954 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 2: left out for even a second, otherwise her dogs will 955 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 2: tear it apart and potentially make a huge mess in 956 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 2: the cabin that I paid the deposit on. My sister 957 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 2: told me to just tell my mom that she has 958 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 2: to keep a close eye on the dogs. But I've 959 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 2: tried that before and she has proven time and time 960 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 2: again that she's either unable or unwilling control her dog's behavior. 961 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I feel like we kind of 962 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,800 Speaker 1: got like a situation of a normal human person. 963 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 2: And just like high iq dastardly dogs. 964 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: That they are, they are like they are like the 965 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: Houdini of stealing food. Yeah, you know, he's seeking seeking bobs, 966 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: going directly to wherever there's some some hamburgers to gnob on. 967 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, would I mean the ahole if I tell my 968 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 2: mom her food crazed dogs are not allowed on family vacation, 969 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 2: even though another dog will be there. We have some 970 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 2: relevant comments, but let's quickly answer the question. Ah. 971 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: I think these dogs have proven themselves to be absolute, 972 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: just like menaces. So I feel like, I don't know, 973 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: I feel like I would almost send a dog altimatum. 974 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 1: It's like, Hey, if you come to this thing and 975 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: these dogs eat my food, you cannot bring them anymore. 976 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: I feel like you kind of have to like set 977 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,399 Speaker 1: the boundary in that way. 978 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 2: Even for the good dog the innocent pup. 979 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah even for the yeah, yeah, like for for all 980 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: dogs that but I like, but honestly, it's been it 981 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: happened so many times. I wouldn't fall op for being like, 982 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 1: your dogs have ruined every kind of dinner I've ever 983 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: tried to put together. 984 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 2: Yeah they have. 985 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,479 Speaker 1: They have eaten full pizzas that are that are big 986 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: enough for four grown men, let alone two tiny, little 987 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,280 Speaker 1: little shitsu dogs. 988 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 2: Oh they were shing all right, dude, after. 989 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:11,919 Speaker 4: All that raw am me? Would you ban those dogs? Yeah? 990 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,800 Speaker 2: But I do think you brought up a good point 991 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 2: of like do you do you do you ban all 992 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 2: dogs to make it fair and equal. The problem is 993 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 2: it's her dogs that are the problem. Like, if we're 994 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 2: being real here, it's like, hey, I would love to 995 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 2: have your dogs in if they didn't suck every molecule 996 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 2: of food in a one mile radius that they have 997 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,240 Speaker 2: access to, that would be awesome. But no, I can't. 998 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 2: I can't. But Opie has a comment. Opie says, my 999 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,240 Speaker 2: mom has bragged that her dogs ate half a box 1000 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 2: of chocolate covered cordial cherries and didn't get sick. I'm 1001 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 2: worried she thinks that they can't get sick. Another comment 1002 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 2: info create the dogs when food is in play. Question 1003 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 2: Mark and Opie says mom will either have a temper 1004 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 2: tantrum about her dogs being created, let them out, or 1005 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 2: both come to Number three says not the a hole, 1006 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 2: but just say no dogs to avoid hurt feelings. Is 1007 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 2: that an option? Opie says. 1008 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 4: So. 1009 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 2: My sister's dog, Lola the beautiful Pity gets pretty horrible 1010 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 2: separation anxiety. Last time my sister left her at a kennel, 1011 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 2: she was banned from the establishment for her behavior problems 1012 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 2: other than that she's a saint. I don't want her 1013 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 2: to be punished because of my mom's dogs behavior. And 1014 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 2: we have the updates. 1015 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,840 Speaker 4: Maybe with the update Johnny. 1016 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,800 Speaker 2: Let's go uh so packing up at the end of vacation, 1017 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 2: A few of you asked me to update on what happened. 1018 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 2: I don't know how to copy link, so I guess 1019 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 2: click on my profile to. 1020 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:36,720 Speaker 4: Read the old post. 1021 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 2: I don't know how right it works, y'all smart enough 1022 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 2: to figure it out. Took the cowards way out and 1023 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 2: asked my dad to break it to her that her 1024 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 2: dogs weren't invited. He wasn't happy about it, but he 1025 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,800 Speaker 2: said he gets it. Then he told me some mildly 1026 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 2: disturbing stuff that he was just laughing off, like what 1027 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 2: like what like? They had a locked bread box for 1028 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 2: pastries on the counter that had been chewed to pieces 1029 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,839 Speaker 2: in order to get to the sentin rolls inside. So 1030 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 2: just to clarify la gentlemen, they purchased a locked like 1031 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 2: bread box device to lock the pastries in safety. But 1032 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 2: it was no, it did not stand. 1033 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 4: You know, it's screwed. 1034 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 1: I love these dogs. These dogs are crazy. These dogs 1035 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,840 Speaker 1: are psycho their psycho like it's like they're not being fed, 1036 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 1: but you know they're being fed. On top of this, 1037 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: a hundred these are these are lethal, intelligent, never like 1038 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,959 Speaker 1: like dogs with a never ending hunger. 1039 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 2: And showed me a picture of the bottom of their 1040 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 2: fridge that had been extensively chewed like the dogs were 1041 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:53,920 Speaker 2: desperately biting and clawing to get inside. He stated he 1042 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 2: loved the dogs too, but could understand why someone wouldn't 1043 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 2: want them around during the vacation. Yeah yeah, yeah, say wow, 1044 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,240 Speaker 2: oh my god. Now, Dad reported Mom took it well 1045 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,400 Speaker 2: and the dogs would stay over at the neighbors who 1046 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 2: they are good friends with. 1047 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 4: Okay, I was relieved as to it too quiet. I 1048 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 4: don't believe it. 1049 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 2: Everyone showed up and started unpacking, set my mom, who 1050 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 2: said my dad was tying things up at the house 1051 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 2: and that she would be by later. Mom didn't show 1052 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 2: up that night, and I missed her the next day. 1053 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 2: Mom did show up, as many commenters suspected, brought. 1054 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,839 Speaker 4: Her dogs with her. 1055 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 2: So try to play it off as nothing, giving out 1056 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,919 Speaker 2: hugs and smiles, but I was upset. I also tried 1057 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 2: to play cool, but I told her that her dogs 1058 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 2: were not to enter the cabin and they could not 1059 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,360 Speaker 2: stay the night. She waved me off. Yeah, yeah, okay, 1060 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 2: I get it. It was fine for a few hours, 1061 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 2: but then I noticed some dirty napkins were floating around 1062 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 2: in the breeze. They sensed it, the little rags, you know, 1063 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 2: the little remnants of their. 1064 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 4: Oh no, so they've already done something. 1065 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 2: Oh no, maybe I discovered that the garbage bag we 1066 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 2: had tied to the picnic table had the bottom ripped 1067 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 2: out and paper plates had been shredded and licked clean. 1068 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 6: Oh these dogs are great. 1069 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 2: I never this is this is? I mean, at this point, 1070 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 2: we might have to like put them in some sort 1071 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 2: of like a Stranger Thing Superhero lab and just study them. 1072 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,280 Speaker 4: What are these likes the devils? 1073 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 1: I mean, like put some muzzles on these things or 1074 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 1: something like them. 1075 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,399 Speaker 2: They would they would that part, they would eat them. 1076 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 2: They're like this is leather. 1077 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:53,359 Speaker 4: Like all right? 1078 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 1: I think, yes, the mom needs a controller dogs. But 1079 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 1: also these dogs, he's like uncontrollable. They ate through a 1080 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 1: locked bread box. I don't know what that is, but 1081 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 1: it sounds like it's hard to get through. 1082 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 2: They almost ate through a refrigerator. 1083 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 1: Just yeah, just a metal freaking refried. These dogs are 1084 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:21,240 Speaker 1: super dogs. 1085 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,320 Speaker 2: Wow. So I cleaned up the mess furious and confronted 1086 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 2: my mother and told her this is exactly why her 1087 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,880 Speaker 2: dogs weren't invited. My mom tried to blame my sister's 1088 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 2: dog for the mess. You didn't see what happened. It 1089 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,319 Speaker 2: could have been her. I told her that there was 1090 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 2: no way I would blame Lola for the mess, since 1091 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 2: her dogs are known for doing this kind of thing. 1092 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,839 Speaker 2: My mom clanned up and just said fine, I would 1093 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 2: just take them home and left with the dog. We 1094 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 2: have a actually a pretty We've got a lot left 1095 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 2: to go. This is a juicy ending, Okay, hit it. 1096 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,360 Speaker 2: My dad wasn't happy after that. Saying I didn't have 1097 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 2: any proof and I went too hard on her. My 1098 00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 2: uncle thought it was funny, and he said he was 1099 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 2: glad to not have those little beasters trying to steal 1100 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 2: his hot dog. It just put a damper on the 1101 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 2: whole trip. I just feel like an idiot for trying 1102 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 2: to make this work in the first place. I missed 1103 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 2: my mom and I wanted to make family memories. But 1104 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,919 Speaker 2: it really does feel like the dogs and my mom 1105 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 2: are a package deal now, and asking her to leave them, 1106 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,279 Speaker 2: even for a short time, was never an option. A 1107 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,919 Speaker 2: lot of people said this in the comments. I don't 1108 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 2: think I was ready to hear it yet. Thanks for 1109 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,920 Speaker 2: being so responsive, and the comments really did help me 1110 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 2: see the reality of situation that I'm in. 1111 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:36,240 Speaker 1: Ban those dogs. Those dogs are absolutely just like spawns 1112 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:36,960 Speaker 1: of Satan. 1113 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, it's John og Host here. We're gonna get 1114 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 2: back to the story. So but here's a quick three 1115 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 2: minute break from as for more sponsors. 1116 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: My father traded my car to a dealership without my permission. Oh, 1117 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 1: just trying to get a good deal. I thirty four female. 1118 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 1: I have a twenty fourteen Ford Focus I got from 1119 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 1: my dad when we bought him a new car. I 1120 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 1: took his old car and gave my Toyota Corolla to 1121 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 1: my brother so he would have a way to get around. 1122 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 1: My family doesn't believe in leasing cars, as it holds 1123 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 1: no value at the end of the day, so whenever 1124 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 1: we get a new car, the old one is either 1125 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,399 Speaker 1: handed down or sold to help pay the new car. 1126 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from Motormouth fifty six to 1127 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,279 Speaker 1: twenty on the Charlotte Debray YouTube Still wrote it, so 1128 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 1: if you want to smit your own stories, go to 1129 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 1: the r slash Okay story Time Still wrote it, so, 1130 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 1: my father is a kind hearted man that tends to 1131 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 1: do things out of kindness without thinking them all the 1132 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 1: way through. There have also been times where he's just 1133 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,880 Speaker 1: donated the old car to someone who really needs it. 1134 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 1: For example, several years ago, my dad was a contractor 1135 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,879 Speaker 1: for a building project in the area and noticed one 1136 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,359 Speaker 1: of his workers who would walk seven miles to get 1137 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,280 Speaker 1: to work every day, so my father started driving him. 1138 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 1: One day, he found out that the young man was 1139 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 1: supporting three small kids, all under six, on a single 1140 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 1: salary and couldn't afford a car. Being the sweet man 1141 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 1: he is, he picked up the worker one day, but 1142 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: instead of driving him to the job site, he went 1143 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 1: with him the vehicle registration office and then signed the 1144 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 1: car to his name as it was fully paid off. 1145 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 4: Dang wow, that is kind dude, that's amazing as a 1146 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 4: kind hearted man. 1147 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 2: Freaking sweetheart. 1148 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 1: Now, before anyone goes thinking my forward was a gift, 1149 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 1: think again. I do graphic design and photography for a 1150 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,399 Speaker 1: living and also manage my dad's business without getting paid. 1151 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 1: As at the same time, my father was struggling financially 1152 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,720 Speaker 1: due to having to bail out my brother from trouble 1153 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 1: and getting scammed by a digital advertising company the cut costs. 1154 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 1: We decided I would take over the websites and advertisements 1155 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 1: for free in exchange for a car. I already knew 1156 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 1: I would get. That way, my father could feel like 1157 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 1: he wasn't manipulating my time in business hours, and I 1158 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 1: could make sure no one ripped him off ever again. 1159 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 1: So here we come yesterday. I've been working for my 1160 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 1: father without pay for around six years. 1161 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 4: Now, that's a while. 1162 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 2: Maybe he should take a little bit of that generosity 1163 00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 2: to his own children. 1164 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have gotten to a point where my father 1165 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,319 Speaker 1: is more stable financially yesterday, my dad's car was in 1166 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 1: the shop and he asked to take mine, as I 1167 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 1: would be at home all day doing a photo shoot 1168 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 1: or a client and working on his new website. Free 1169 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,439 Speaker 1: of charge of course. Oh but you're working too much 1170 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 1: free of charge. 1171 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1172 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,320 Speaker 1: I warned him how the ace was not working. Summer 1173 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 1: here is forty five degree fahrenheit minimum. 1174 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 2: Got to be celsius. That's cold. 1175 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 4: That's freaking cold. But celsius is a warm too hot. 1176 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 1: That's too hot, And that the radio didn't work due 1177 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 1: to the heat pretty much frying the system and couldn't 1178 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 1: be replaced since they don't make that pardon anymore. He 1179 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,279 Speaker 1: said it was fine and if he had time, he 1180 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 1: would get it fixed for me. I thank Tim and 1181 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,320 Speaker 1: got back to work. After driving my car for two hours, 1182 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 1: my father found it unbearable and called to tell me 1183 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,479 Speaker 1: I need a new car and that we should sell 1184 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 1: the Ford or trade it in. I said fine, as 1185 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,799 Speaker 1: long as the new car had an automatic transmission. I'm 1186 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 1: good with anything. Less than an hour, a car trading 1187 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,279 Speaker 1: company calls to inform me that my father wants to 1188 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 1: trade in my automatic board of Focus to a Hyundai 1189 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,440 Speaker 1: with a trip tronic transmission. For those who don't know, 1190 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 1: tripchronic transmission, cars have this crappy feature that if you 1191 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: don't press on the brakes while you're in traffic uphill, 1192 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 1: the car will start going down backwards. It was dangerous 1193 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,920 Speaker 1: in an area that most of the traffic is on 1194 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 1: uphill road. Yeah, that sucks. 1195 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,280 Speaker 4: What I told the man on the phone. 1196 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 1: I didn't want the car and to please hand the 1197 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 1: phone to my father. I explained to him that I 1198 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 1: don't want that car as it was not comfortable for 1199 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 1: me to drive, and would prefer a Ford Focus with 1200 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 1: no AC over a death trap that drives horribly and 1201 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 1: can put me at risk. He tried to convince me 1202 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 1: that I was overreacting and then I just need to 1203 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 1: learn how to drive it. How about it's my car, 1204 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 1: I can do what I want. I said no, thank 1205 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 1: you and hung up. Today I am in my office 1206 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: at the company I work for when my father calls 1207 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 1: me up and tells me come downstairs as he needs 1208 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 1: me to see something important. I leave my office and 1209 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 1: go downstairs to see what my father needs. I'm sure 1210 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 1: enough he's sitting in the car I didn't want, and 1211 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 1: my Ford is nowhere to be found. I was beyond upset. 1212 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 1: Why fix a problem that didn't need to be fixed 1213 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 1: like this, you. 1214 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:21,600 Speaker 2: Know, because we have to make it complicate. It cannot 1215 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 2: be simple. 1216 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 4: This is ridiculous. 1217 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 1: I told him that I had just one request, that 1218 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: it was automatic, just like the car I had, and 1219 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,440 Speaker 1: I didn't want the car that was before me. 1220 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 4: He tried to. 1221 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 1: Convince me that my car was old and this one 1222 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 1: was brand new and better, but I wasn't having it. 1223 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 1: My Forward Focus is a solid and strong minivan with 1224 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 1: plenty of space, good horsepower, and might of great material 1225 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 1: compared to the Hundai Trap the salesperson convinced him would 1226 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 1: be better for me. I got in the car and 1227 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 1: asked my father to drive me to the dealership asap 1228 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 1: as I was extremely upset and needed to take the 1229 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 1: anger out in someone. So when I got to the dealership, 1230 00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 1: I took the keys from my father and looked around 1231 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,400 Speaker 1: see who the salesperson was who convinced him that this 1232 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 1: was a good idea. When the man walked up to us, 1233 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 1: I handed him the keys and told him I want 1234 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 1: my four back now. He tried to convince me I 1235 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 1: was better off with this car and that I would 1236 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:13,880 Speaker 1: learn how to drive it. 1237 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 7: Here I lost sets uh oh and yell listen here 1238 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 7: man and listen close ye little greaseball snake oil salesman 1239 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 7: of a car, Taylor, you have. 1240 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 1: Thirty seconds to take this piece of crap you're trying 1241 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 1: to push me and go get my car before I 1242 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 1: call the police and say that you accepted a stolen 1243 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 1: car in for trade. And am I Claire Crystal? 1244 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 2: My god? 1245 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,920 Speaker 1: Then I turned to my dad, walked him outside a 1246 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 1: moment and continued, what part of I want an automatic 1247 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 1: transcision was so hard to understand, not. 1248 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,520 Speaker 4: A manual, not a pronic and automatic? 1249 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Why is it that my own father can't just listen 1250 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 1: to what I asked instead of undermain and me Because 1251 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,000 Speaker 1: some idiot who knows nothing about cars is trying to 1252 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 1: sell him a piece of ten file shaped like a car, 1253 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 1: my dad, Opie is going scorged. 1254 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 2: Earth well away with words, away with words. 1255 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 1: My dad tried to explain that the salesman was trying 1256 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 1: to help and give him a good price, which made 1257 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 1: me even angrier as the car was not worth half 1258 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 1: of mine, yet they wanted me to add more money 1259 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,760 Speaker 1: to get the piece of crap car. I ignored my 1260 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,920 Speaker 1: dad and walked back into the dealership and asked to 1261 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 1: speak to a manager. The manager, who ord heard everything already, 1262 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 1: had my keys in his hand and asked to speak 1263 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 1: to me in his office for a moment. I walked 1264 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 1: into his office for The manager also tried to explain 1265 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 1: to me that even if my car is worth more, 1266 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,000 Speaker 1: the dealership will only give me this amount, and that 1267 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 1: I am getting a great deal and shouldn't walk away. 1268 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,479 Speaker 1: What do you think Opie's gonna do, John, I. 1269 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 2: Think we're gonna get the WI like. Honestly, I'm just 1270 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 2: curious to see if Opie just calls the cops over in. 1271 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:13,160 Speaker 4: This give me my car, give it to me. 1272 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,439 Speaker 1: Since I was getting sick of all the people trying 1273 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 1: to convince me to take something I don't want, I 1274 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 1: decided to teach them all a bit about cars. 1275 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 4: So I started comparing my FOD to the Hyundai in 1276 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 4: every possible way. 1277 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,560 Speaker 1: Here we go from horsepower to reaction time, to the 1278 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 1: type of metal the car is made, how sturdy it is. 1279 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 1: At some point the manager realized he is talking to 1280 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,680 Speaker 1: someone who actually knows cars, and I'd worked on them before. 1281 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 1: When I was done explaining the difference between cars, I 1282 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:48,200 Speaker 1: held out my hand and said, keys, please, keys, please, money, 1283 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:52,240 Speaker 1: please give me, please give it back. He reluctantly gave 1284 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,360 Speaker 1: me back my car, keys, and I walked outside furious, 1285 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 1: as I was in the middle of my workday and 1286 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 1: my boss was extremely upset that I was late meeting. 1287 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 1: My dad called me about an hour ago, telling me 1288 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 1: my behavior was not appropriate and that he was just 1289 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,080 Speaker 1: trying to help. My friend also said I was being 1290 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 1: an a hole and I should have just taken the 1291 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:11,240 Speaker 1: newer car. 1292 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:15,040 Speaker 4: But I didn't want it. Am I the a hole? John? 1293 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 1: There's a little bit more of the story, But what 1294 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 1: do you think is OP the a hole? 1295 01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,040 Speaker 2: Definitely not for wanting to get her car back, because 1296 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,920 Speaker 2: she literally said, hey, I don't want this. 1297 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,600 Speaker 4: This is I don't want it. I get it away 1298 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:29,960 Speaker 4: from me. 1299 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:35,520 Speaker 8: I was specific, yeah, and uh, you know, yeah, I 1300 01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 8: think just overall not the OP was just letting him 1301 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:40,960 Speaker 8: know what time it was. 1302 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 1: OPI is not the a hole by any means. But 1303 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,880 Speaker 1: we do have a little bit more of this story updates. 1304 01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 1: So this morning, I was supposed to have breakfast with 1305 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 1: my father as we do every Tuesday morning to check 1306 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,479 Speaker 1: in on each other, but instead his girlfriend, Monica came 1307 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,640 Speaker 1: and told me my dad was busy closing it to 1308 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 1: acknowledge my feelings about being upset with my father, and 1309 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,880 Speaker 1: then told me something I didn't know. Oh, my father 1310 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 1: has dyslexia and hypothyroidism, which sometimes makes him forgetful. He explained, 1311 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,680 Speaker 1: my dad hasn't told me because he didn't want to 1312 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 1: worry me. And then Monica showed me a bank account 1313 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,720 Speaker 1: in the name where my dad had been transferring money 1314 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,640 Speaker 1: every month for the past six years. Turns out, while 1315 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,440 Speaker 1: I thought I'd been working for free, my dad was 1316 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 1: quietly saving me to buy a house one day without 1317 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:35,880 Speaker 1: needing a mortgage. I tear aw au, I teared up 1318 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,080 Speaker 1: when I realized what he'd done. He told me that 1319 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 1: my father grew up for had to leave school to 1320 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,760 Speaker 1: support his mother and sisters, and promise himself I'd never 1321 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 1: go through what he did. That made me realize how 1322 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,400 Speaker 1: much he tries to protect me, even as an adult. 1323 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,880 Speaker 1: I called my dad and apologized for how it acted. 1324 01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:54,360 Speaker 4: That's so cute. 1325 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:56,320 Speaker 2: I have to say it. 1326 01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 4: I have to say say it, John. 1327 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:04,200 Speaker 2: Why hide the money for six years? Why not just 1328 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,480 Speaker 2: tell give the money or at least be like, hey, 1329 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 2: I'm I'm setting aside to like buy you a house, I. 1330 01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 4: Like, or why not just pay opie? 1331 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,560 Speaker 2: That that's what I'm like. It's such a weird. 1332 01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it is sweet. No, you're you are right, 1333 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 4: You are right, it is it is sweet. 1334 01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's like I'm I mean, basically, 1335 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 1: the father's like, I'm not going to pay you for 1336 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 1: six years, but I'm secretly gonna pay you for six years, 1337 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,880 Speaker 1: and probably not as much as it would be worth 1338 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 1: to actually pay you. 1339 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:39,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 1340 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,600 Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's a little sus but I do like 1341 01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 1: the sentiment of like, oh, I don't wanna I don't 1342 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:48,760 Speaker 1: want you to have to go through the things that 1343 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,439 Speaker 1: I went through, so let me get you a house. 1344 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:55,160 Speaker 2: Well, then pay me for six years. 1345 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,120 Speaker 4: Am I am? I crazy? I don't know. 1346 01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:01,160 Speaker 2: I I think it's a little heat tried, but he 1347 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:01,800 Speaker 2: missed the mark. 1348 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:02,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think. 1349 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,040 Speaker 1: I called my dad and apologized for how I acted. 1350 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 1: He told me he needed to apologize too, because he 1351 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 1: went to the dealership. He ran to my mother, who 1352 01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,160 Speaker 1: I rarely speak to. She convinced him to get the 1353 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,320 Speaker 1: tip Pronic car, claiming it would be the best for me, 1354 01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 1: even after all these years, my dad still takes her 1355 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,959 Speaker 1: his opinion into account simply because she's my mother. 1356 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,960 Speaker 4: There's another re elevant updates. But what do you think? 1357 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 2: Uh again, I think it's a little weird, but I 1358 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 2: think it was, you know, nice for Opie to apologize, 1359 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,920 Speaker 2: and good for the dad to recognize, like, hey, I 1360 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 2: you know, shouldn't have shouldn't have done that. Yeah, I 1361 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 2: think we're coming to come in to common grounds, coming. 1362 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 4: To common grounds. 1363 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,480 Speaker 1: You know, it is nice to know that he like 1364 01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,160 Speaker 1: saved for Opie. 1365 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:47,880 Speaker 2: I mean, he's trying, but we. 1366 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:48,720 Speaker 4: Got a little bit more. So. 1367 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,720 Speaker 1: I called my mom and she blamed my dad, saying 1368 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:51,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't her fault. 1369 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:52,520 Speaker 4: He still listens to her. 1370 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,120 Speaker 1: I hung up and asked Monica why she hadn't told 1371 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:56,959 Speaker 1: me sooner, and she said the only thing that would 1372 01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,400 Speaker 1: break my dad's heart more than me being mad at him, 1373 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,600 Speaker 1: was me cutting off my mom completely, because he still 1374 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,240 Speaker 1: misses his own mother every day. I ended up crying, 1375 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 1: and Monica comforted me like she used to when I 1376 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,440 Speaker 1: was a teen. He asked me not to tell my dad. 1377 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,440 Speaker 1: She showed me the account because it was meant to 1378 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,240 Speaker 1: be a surprise for my thirty fifth birthday later, I 1379 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,560 Speaker 1: met my dad at construction site, hugged him, and he 1380 01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 1: told me to get my car's AC fixed. He also said, 1381 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 1: next time I want a new car, I can pick 1382 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 1: it out and he'll pay for it, though I won't 1383 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:27,840 Speaker 1: let him. At the end of the day, I had 1384 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 1: a right to be upset, but I realized I should 1385 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 1: have asked for more details and seen where my dad 1386 01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,320 Speaker 1: was coming from. Turns out we were both a bit 1387 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 1: of the a hole and that's where that story ends. 1388 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:39,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it ended well. 1389 01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,479 Speaker 1: I still think a little bit of whack whacky whack 1390 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:48,360 Speaker 1: a doodleness, but hey, I mean, all is well, that 1391 01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:48,960 Speaker 1: ends well. 1392 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:50,960 Speaker 2: I think we can chalk it up to a nice 1393 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:52,000 Speaker 2: little as well. That ends well. 1394 01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so, not too bad. I think so. 1395 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:55,080 Speaker 4: I like it