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Speaker 1: You could hear the players like whoa, oh what what?

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Speaker 1: I didn't. It didn't flip. It didn't flip. I'm gonna flip. Please.

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Speaker 1: You can't make any of the sh and we're not

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Speaker 1: making this up. We promise about the coin that did

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Speaker 1: not flip. It's saucered it frisbee, it levitated, It spun

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Speaker 1: in the air like pizza though, but it never flipped.

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Speaker 1: And you heard what the guy said. It didn't flip

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Speaker 1: and it didn't flip. I've seen Pizza's flip. More than that.

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Speaker 1: The coin was pristine and it led to a great moment.

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Speaker 1: of fame with the cover handing, it would be a good,

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Speaker 1: That coin should be in the Hall of Fame because

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Speaker 1: it never flipped. Hey, if it isn't memorable, we wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be here. Welcome in everyone. I'm Paul CALVC, Cardinal's sideline reporter,

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Speaker 1: and this is Cardinal's Folk Tales. The Coin that Didn't Flip,

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Speaker 1: presented by seventy two sold where we go in depth

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Speaker 1: into Cardinal's history, all time anecdotes, through the personal recollections

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Speaker 1: replay right here or the flip. The thing did not

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Speaker 1: turn over, something unexpected, which was perfect for that game.

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Speaker 1: It's a Cardinal Packers playoff game, so it's just going

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Speaker 1: to be crazy. It's a tradition now the Twilight Zone.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how the official doesn't know how to

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Speaker 1: fifty years. Cardinals radio analyst Ron Wolfley and He's right.

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Speaker 1: As recent history takes us back first to the two

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Speaker 1: dripping with drama, a game also remembered for Cardinals Hall

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Speaker 1: we all walked out of that building saying to ourselves,

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Speaker 1: where there's no way it gets any crazier than that,

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Speaker 1: I was stunned, and I thought to myself, freaking Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: In off Cardinals folk tales. The Coin that Didn't flip

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Speaker 1: presented by seventy two sold. We hope you enjoyed reliving

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Speaker 1: this moment, this bizarre chapter in Cardinal's history. For producer

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Speaker 1: Jim Almohundrol, I'm Paul Kalvisi. Thanks for joining us. Everyone,