1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: You're listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast to 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Coast a and Paranormal podcast network, where we offer you 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: podcasts of the supernatural and the unexplained. Getting ready now 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: for Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Schamplain. Welcome to 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: our podcast. Please be aware of the thoughts and opinions 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions only 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 1: and do not reflect those of I Heart Media, I 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Heart Radio, Coast to Coast AM employees of Premier Networks, 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: or their sponsors and associates. We would like to encourage 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: you to do your own research and discover the subject 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: matter for yourself. Hi. I'm Sandra Champlain. For almost twenty 12 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: five years, I've been on a journey to prove the 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: existence of life after death. On each episode, will discuss 14 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: the reasons we now know that our loved ones have 15 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: survived physical death and so will we. Welcome to Shades 16 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife. I was interviewed a few days ago 17 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: on a pretty big podcast, and I was delighted that 18 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: I could share about everything I'm up to when the 19 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: host introduced me. She introduced me with of course, the 20 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: author of the book We Don't Die. Host of this podcast, 21 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: all the online things we do. But then she went 22 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: in great detail about how positive I am and Sandra 23 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: is a glowing representative of the fact that if we 24 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 1: believe in the afterlife, that we're happy and our life 25 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: works out. And it was this raw, raw, happy happy, 26 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: and she said, what do you want to talk about today? 27 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: And it hit me. We human beings. Our life is 28 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: like being on a roller coaster. Sometimes it's frightening, sometimes 29 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: it's the fear of the unknown. Sometimes it's fun and exhilarating. 30 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: I told her, as much as the picture she painted 31 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: of me was nice, it's not quite accurate. Currently in 32 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: my life, I'm going through the we stage on the 33 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: roller coaster, just went down a big hill, having some 34 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: fun wind in my face with my friends all as well. 35 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: But I said to her, I want to get back 36 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: to the basics and why I'm doing what I'm doing, 37 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: because it is out of the worst pain of my 38 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: life that I can be here today sharing with you. 39 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: If there was a person on TV with some Get 40 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: Rich Quick book, would you believe them? If they were 41 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: somebody who was always wealthy, or if the guy or 42 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: gal came on and he or she had hit rock 43 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: body them and on their own. They did what it 44 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: took to become successful, and now not only are they 45 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: sharing the get rich quick, but they're making sure they're 46 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: helping people. They donate, they give money away, and they 47 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: are totally of service. I think you, like me, would 48 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: probably get the book from the second person. Nobody wants 49 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 1: to hear words of advice from somebody who's always been successful. 50 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: We want to know the person we're listening to has 51 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: been in the trenches, has been where we are, that 52 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: we can look up to them thinking, Okay, if they 53 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: were there and now they're here, then there's hope for me. 54 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: Many years ago, I did some speaker training and I 55 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: felt out of place. I felt pretty intimidated by the 56 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: crowd of people I was with, many of them very successful, 57 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: many of them on television, and there was a group 58 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: of about twenty of us. It was before my book 59 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: had come out. I knew at some point I would 60 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: be sharing my story. So we had to pretend that 61 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: there was a camera in front of us, and we 62 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: had to deliver a five minute pitch about who we were, 63 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: what our past is, about what we're up to now, 64 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: and what we would like to share with people. So 65 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: the instructor said, who would like to go first? And 66 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're like me, but I get 67 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: really nervous. So I decided just to get up and 68 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: do it first and get it out of the way 69 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: so I could sit back and watch everybody else instead 70 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: of anticipating and having fear through all the other people's presentations. 71 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: I did the best I could. I really delivered what 72 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: I knew to be truthful, what I thought would help people. 73 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: And then it was over, so everybody else went and 74 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: there was this woman who was the perfect petite, size four, 75 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: beautiful lady, hair just perfect, everything just perfect, and she 76 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: delivered a flawless presentation. She's someone who's on one of 77 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: the biggest news shows that we have in America. She's 78 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: a doctor and she had her stuff together. I mean, 79 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: she was flawless. So we watched everybody and at the 80 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: end we all had to vote who did the best job. 81 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: I voted for the doctor. Everybody else voted for me. 82 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: I was stunned. The instructor said, why did you vote 83 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: for Sandra, And they said, because she's real. We could 84 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: see ourselves in her story. And the fact, I hate 85 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 1: to say this that I'm a big girl actually worked 86 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: in my favor because I wasn't trying to be the 87 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: perfect size with the perfect nails and the perfect hair do. 88 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: I just wanted to share from my heart. Just recently, 89 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: I told you that I am on George Norris show 90 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: on Guya TV called Beyond Belief. When the episode came out, 91 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: I was nervous because I don't like how I look. 92 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: I've been somebody who's battled my weight all my life, 93 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: and all I saw in front of me was this 94 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: fat girl on a chair talking to the great George Norri, 95 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: and I said, Sandra, put away the ego that you're 96 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: not good enough. See, the ego can strike in many ways. 97 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: It can say, look at me, I'm the greatest in 98 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: the world, and it can also say I'm the worst 99 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: in the world. That little voice inside of our head 100 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: is really our friend. But I decided to put all 101 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: judgments aside and just listen. And there before me, I 102 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: saw a beautiful person me sharing her heart out about 103 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: the pain and suffering and where she is today. And 104 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, I can believe her because 105 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: I've had that pain and she knows what it is 106 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: to feel it today. On the show, I want to 107 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: introduce you to my Why why it is so essential 108 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: that I share about the afterlife? Why it's so essential 109 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: I talk about grief. I want to introduce you to 110 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: my dad who was in the spirit world, but tell 111 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: you a little bit about what happened. Things you haven't 112 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: heard before that make me do what I do. I 113 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: still have members of my family that don't speak with me. 114 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: I got written off by my siblings when Dad died, 115 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: and those relationships have not come back together. It's been 116 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: a tough journey. Do I have a smile on my 117 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: face now? Yes? Do I have a really good friends 118 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: that believe in that I can share about the afterlife 119 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: and positive things? Yes? I do. We can't pick our 120 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: family that we're born into, but we can pick our 121 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: spiritual family. And there are people that will come into 122 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: your life that are just a match for you, and 123 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: like a circle. Sometimes relationships come apart, but I have 124 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: one faith that they come back together. That sometimes crappy 125 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: stuff does happen to get us on our spiritual journey, 126 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: to get us to learn about other human beings and 127 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: why we do what we do, maybe to put us 128 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: on the spiritual journey of hitting rock bottom. To be 129 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: able to lift ourselves up. But I'm in a good 130 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: place in my life right now, even though there's a 131 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: lot that I don't have. I lost my sums because 132 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: of COVID, so I've had to recreate myself trying to 133 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: pay the bills from my enterprises with online teaching, mediumship 134 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: and all the other good things that we do. My 135 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: mom has suffered some health problems. She's doing great, though 136 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: she's great now. I've relocated to be with her and 137 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: care for her. Things aren't as I had planned, and 138 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: I'm happy. Little things make me happy, whereas before I 139 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: thought I needed the big things to make me happy. 140 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: So today I want to introduce you to who my 141 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: dad is was you know he's still around. Why I'm 142 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: so passionate. I want you to meet the Sandra that 143 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: has been through some really tough times. But now I 144 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: can look back and say, oh my God, that had 145 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: to happen exactly the way it did for me to 146 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: be here right now. It is not an easy journey 147 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: this life, and you might be going through something really 148 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: horrific right now. I do believe that we have a 149 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: team of cheerleaders in the invisible world around us helping 150 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: us in our lives and also letting us know that 151 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: they're still around and that's there's a bigger picture, but 152 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: also trusting that it might be a year or two 153 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 1: down the road where you can look back on this 154 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: time and say, oh, my gosh, I needed to have 155 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: that happen, so this could happen, this good thing, making 156 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: a difference, maybe for just one person. On this episode two, 157 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: I want to tell you about Dr Bernie Siegel, who 158 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: you may know. He is an oncologist, retired now, but 159 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: he's got a dozen books out and he was one 160 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: of the first people with mind over body healing treatments. 161 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: He was my dad's doctor. I want to talk about 162 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: some of the signs that I've gotten that my dad 163 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: is still very much alive, and not only that, I 164 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: believe he's helping me on this journey to get to 165 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: the most amount of people possible. Different kind of episode, 166 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: but aren't they all. The one thing that I don't 167 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: want is for you to say she's got it all handled, 168 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: her life is great. Why would I ever believe her? No, 169 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: just the opposite. I've been where maybe you are right now. 170 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: I have survived it, I have learned, I've come a 171 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: long way, and if I could be where I am today, 172 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: there are better days ahead for you. Now, I'm not stupid. 173 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: I've got many years left in the older. We get 174 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: things happen, and grief happens. But I feel armed with 175 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: the toolbox of powerful tools that I want to share 176 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: through every episode, and a team of people on my side, 177 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: both alive and not alive, that are going to support 178 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: me and you in this journey. I call life a 179 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: roller coaster. William shed who was an American theologian back 180 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: in there, said a ship in a harbor is safe, 181 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: but that is not what ships are built for. So 182 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: as we proceed in this episode and you proceed in life, 183 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: it really can be a lot of waves, a lot 184 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: of turbulence. It's about the journey, and we're in this together. 185 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: So let's go for our first break. You're listening to 186 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and 187 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: Coast Coast AM pair on our podcast network. Don't go anywhere. 188 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: There's more Shades of the Afterlife coming right up. 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Name John Champlaine, 206 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: great guy, grew up in Massachusetts, became a pilot when 207 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: he was a teenager, went on to being a pilot 208 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: in the Air Force and a pilot for American Airlines. 209 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: Good dad, we did a lot together. He taught me 210 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: how to fly an airplane. I grow up. I go 211 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: through high school, I go through college. I become very 212 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: busy in life. I'm a trained chef. I work in 213 00:14:55,520 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: hotel and restaurant management. And Dad and I didn't really 214 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: go separate ways, but I was busy being a young person. 215 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: He and my mom divorced when I was about fourteen 216 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: years old. Always got along after that, but just weren't 217 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: meant to be together. Dad got remarried that relationship broke up, 218 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: and ended up dating another lady until he passed. Dad 219 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: and I did become somewhat estranged. I got very close 220 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: to my mom. I really listened to her from her 221 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: point of view about the relationship she and my dad 222 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: had and ended up having a lot of compassion for 223 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: who she was back then. Young twenty year old gets 224 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: married and has three kids very soon after getting married, 225 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: and a fourth one five years later. She was a 226 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: busy woman and a very very hard worker, and the 227 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: relationship didn't work out. When I began to see things 228 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: from my mom's point of view, this could have just 229 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: been a coincidence, but spending a lot of time with 230 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: her and Dad with the new girlfriend, we weren't very close. 231 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: Fast forward to January two thousand and ten, My day 232 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: job was cooking for race car teams. Mom and I 233 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: owned a successful catering business and we served food for 234 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: race car teams in the IMPS series, which is owned 235 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: by NASCAR. We were in Daytona Beach, Florida, cooking for 236 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: a race when I got the call. I got to 237 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: see Dad right away. Dad was in the local hospital. 238 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: He lived in Daytona Beach, Florida. He was in very 239 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: poor shape. He had had a problem with his back 240 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: and as it turned out, he had a cancerous tumor 241 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: that actually broke apart part of his back. They gave 242 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: him last rites. They didn't think he was going to 243 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: make it, but he did. They were able to do 244 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: surgery on him. They put him in what's called a 245 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: turtle shell, so he had limited mobility and couldn't do 246 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: any more damage to his back. He was in a 247 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: wheelchair hospital bed. He ended up going into hospice for 248 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: some time to try to regulate his pain medications. They 249 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: installed a pain pump within him because lots of pain 250 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: involved and over the course of the next five months, 251 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: I relocated to Florida to be with my dad. So 252 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: I moved in into an apartment nearby him and his girlfriend, 253 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: and over those many months, I did everything I could 254 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: to help with doctor's appointments, cooking, and caring for him. 255 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: My other siblings all married, all have families. I was 256 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: a single girl, so it was easy for me to do. 257 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: I won't get into the nitty gritty about it, but 258 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: the bottom line is, as Dad's health deteriorated, my siblings 259 00:17:55,480 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: wanted him in New England in Connecticut, closer to them, 260 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: And meanwhile, my dad wanted to stay in Florida, where 261 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: his lady friend was and his whole community. He had 262 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: lived in Florida for a long long time. While I 263 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: was traveling at one of my races, I was out 264 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: in California, my siblings got a private medical airplane and 265 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: took Dad from Florida to where they were in Connecticut. 266 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: My Dad was calling me. He didn't want to go. 267 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: My siblings thought I somehow manipulated my dad, and things 268 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: just started falling apart. From there on, they checked him 269 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: into a nice hospital, good care, and Dad only survived 270 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: maybe another three or four weeks. I'm not sure. I 271 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: don't really quite remember, but what was tough is that 272 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: I was angry at my siblings for moving him. They 273 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: said Dad wanted to go, and when I was with Dad, 274 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: he said he didn't want to go. At that point, 275 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: I thought they were lying, because you know, I trusted 276 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 1: my dad, and my relationship just kept getting worse with 277 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: my siblings fights over everything. Like I said, I relocated 278 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: to be with him. So I packed up everything and 279 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: I went to Connecticut. I stayed in a hotel for 280 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,239 Speaker 1: those last couple of weeks, and I was with my 281 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: dad from the moment he woke up to the moment 282 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: he went to bed. I was there. I was talking 283 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: to the doctors. I was his biggest cheerleader. Brought movies, 284 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: I brought all kinds of entertainment, all positive conversations, and 285 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: did absolutely everything I could with him and for him, 286 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: and that he really appreciated. You may have heard me 287 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: on episode ninety three. It's when I do the visualization 288 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: that you can be reconnected with your loved one in 289 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: the spirit world. So you know my voice, you know 290 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: what I sound like in that meditation state. I made 291 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of recordings for my dad on a 292 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: little digital tape recorder of beautiful things for him to 293 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: visualize when he would go to sleep or if he 294 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: was in a lot of pain. My dad was someone 295 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: who rode his bicycle five times across the United States, 296 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: which is about three thousand miles, to raise money for 297 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: Dr Bernie Siegel's Exceptional Cancer Patients charity. He kept it 298 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: was called or it is called Dad. Thirty years prior 299 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: had been diagnosed with cancer. He had a tumor that 300 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: was from his kidney to his pelvic bone, and thirty 301 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: years prior, he was given three months to live. Dad 302 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: found Dr Bernie Siegel, who was one of the very 303 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: first that started saying that we can visualize cancer disappearing. 304 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: Dad would visualize pac Man, remember that old game, eating 305 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: up the cancer cells within his body. Of course, he 306 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: went through traditional chemotherapy and radiation too, but all of 307 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: a sudden Dad's cancer disappeared. That is a miracle. Dad 308 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: went on to working with this decap group with Dr 309 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: Bernie Segal and helped so many people with positive imagery 310 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: doing positive things, being really outspoken for cancer patients and 311 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: AIDS patients that they're more powerful than they know themselves 312 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: to be and that they can heal. So really an 313 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: exceptional human being. So I made a ton of these 314 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: recordings for my dad, having him visualize as grandchildren, visualized 315 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: being on a bicycle riding across the United States, seeing 316 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: the beautiful scenery and how it felt with the wind 317 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: on his face. We used to love to go deep 318 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: sea fishing together, so I had him imagine being on 319 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,479 Speaker 1: the boat, the sound of the boat, hearing the noise 320 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: when there's a fish on the line, and reeling it in. 321 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: And just did everything I could two have his mind 322 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: be as positive as possible in this time where he 323 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: was close to the end, but he kept saying, I'm 324 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: going to beat it, I'm going to fight this, and 325 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: he was really really positive. When we were in his 326 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: hospital room together, we play a little game that any 327 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: doctor or nurse or aid that would walk in. When 328 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: they left the room, they would be happier. We would 329 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: get them into a conversation, we'd make them laugh, whatever 330 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: we could do to put a smile on people's face. 331 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: We did gratitude games back and forth, what are we 332 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: grateful for? And all of those things kept our minds busy, 333 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: which was so important, but it also eased his pain, 334 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: so it was a really good thing we were together. 335 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: I saw a side of myself that I never knew existed, 336 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: being so proactive for his medical care. It was tough 337 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: though my siblings thought I was manipulating my dad, and um, 338 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: it was very tough, I can tell you, very very tough. 339 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: Towards the end, Dad developed blood clots and his legs 340 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: that were really excruciatingly painful to him, and they could 341 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: tell that his cancer, although it didn't appear on the scans, 342 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: that it was really heavy duty within his body. Very 343 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: slowly the pain medication got turned up. Dad was in 344 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: excruciating pain until the moment he passed. You hear these 345 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: stories that you don't want a loved one to suffer 346 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: from cancer, and I never quite got that until I 347 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: witnessed that. And as much as I believed in the 348 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: afterlife then because I had done over ten years of 349 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: research into the afterlife, by the time my dad passed, 350 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: had even shared with my dad everything that I knew, 351 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: and he made me promise I write a book. But 352 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: even with that, there was nothing worse than watching him 353 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: pass and even in his lifeless body, I just kept 354 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: hugging and kissing him, just and talking to him. I said, 355 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: I know you're here in the room, but this is 356 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: the hardest thing I've been through. And I know it 357 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: was hard on my siblings as well, because we all 358 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: had a good relationship with my dad one on one. 359 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: But all of that really led me into a very 360 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: dark place, not only losing my dad, who you've heard 361 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: me say this before, The more you love, the more 362 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: it hurts. Well, being by this man's side for the 363 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: better part of five months and just loving him for 364 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: who he was present day you was awful to have 365 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: him pass and then also have three siblings who think 366 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: I'm a monster, greedy, narcissistic, all of that. So it 367 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: was tough. It was really tough. And in case you're wondering, 368 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: I have forgiven my siblings. I learned a lot about grief, 369 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: but not only that. Looking back, Dad was under so 370 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: much pain medication, a crazy amount, and I really believe 371 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: that in his more lucid moments he told me exactly 372 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: how he felt that he wanted to stay in Florida, etcetera. 373 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: But under all these heavy duty drugs. When my siblings 374 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: might have said, oh, wouldn't it be nice if you 375 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: came back home to Connecticut where we grew up, Dad 376 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: probably said, oh, I would love that, So they really 377 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: believed that he did want that, so all is forgiven 378 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: on my side. We're going to go into a break. 379 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: When we come back, I promise I'll lighten the mood. 380 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: I will. I will and share with you some reasons 381 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: that I know that my dad is still alive, some 382 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: signs from him. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife 383 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a 384 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: M Paranormal Podcast Network. Don't go anywhere. There's more Shades 385 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife coming right up. Hey, it's the Wizard 386 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: of Weird Joshua pe Warren. 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It's easy to become an insider. 397 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: Just head on over to Coast to Coast a M 398 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: dot com the website and you'll find all the info 399 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: right there. That's Coast to Coast a M dot com. 400 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast a L dot com. Hey, it's not 401 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: your sky and you're listening to the I Heart Radio 402 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast AM Paranulal Podcast Network. Welcome back 403 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Samplain and I'm 404 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: talking to you about my dad after he passed. It 405 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: was a tough time. There were fights with my siblings 406 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: about Dad's possessions and matters regarding his will, etcetera. Shortly 407 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: after he passed. Also, one of our two kiddies got 408 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: very sick. My aunt and I ended up spending thousands 409 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: of dollars trying to save this cat's life. Losing one 410 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: person was bad, but boy did we fight because you 411 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: know what it's like to love a pet, and we 412 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: sure did with Ozzie. But he didn't survive, so a 413 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: double dose of grief. Things hit rock bottom for me. 414 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: I was not going to end my life, but I 415 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: could totally get how people feeling the way I did 416 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: might contemplate or actually end their lives. It was a 417 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: dark place. The more we love, the more it hurts. Unfortunately, 418 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: at that point, I didn't know about the world of grief. 419 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: I seem to have an ah ha moment that made 420 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: me want to research grief, why it has to hurt 421 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: so bad, why good people would turn into such monsters. 422 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: And I unraveled a world of how our brain chemistry 423 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: changes when we grieve. I'm not going to get into 424 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: that right now, but it's in chapter ten of my book, 425 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: and stay tuned to the end, because if you don't 426 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: already have it, I have a free copy for you. 427 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: But all the information I found really helped me. It 428 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: helped ease my pain. It was still there, but it 429 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: gave me understanding for not only why I was experiencing 430 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: what I was, but how our memory and perception changes. 431 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: And I had compassion for the first time for myself 432 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: and my siblings that we were trying to communicate with 433 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: not healthy brains. All the information and I found out 434 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: about grief, I thought I need to get out into 435 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: the world. I decided to record a seventy minute audio 436 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: called how to Survive Grief. I put it on Facebook. 437 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: People would listen to it, share with two friends. They 438 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: shared with two friends, and the next thing, you know, 439 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: within a matter of a couple of months, over three 440 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: thousand people had heard it. I started receiving emails about 441 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: how it helped ease their pain, made them understand what 442 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: they were thinking and feeling. And then I had a 443 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: number of people who told me they chose not to 444 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: end their life because of the words. I felt like 445 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: I had a moral responsibility to get these words out 446 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: to as many people as I could. I didn't want 447 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: to be known as the grief lady, nor did I 448 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: feel like I had expertise in that field. Then but 449 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: it hit me, Sandra, if you want to share about 450 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: all those things you learned about the afterlife? And I 451 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: always knew if I was going to have a book, 452 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: i'd call it We Don't Die. And I thought, share 453 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: what you know about the afterlife include what you learned 454 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: about grief, and as a student of human transformation, how 455 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: do we have a powerful life while we're here. Not 456 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: knowing how one would possibly begin to write a book, 457 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: I searched online and found something called Author one oh 458 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: one University, and on a whim, I flew to California 459 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,479 Speaker 1: to take this weekend course. I still remember entering the 460 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: elevator to go down to the conference room for day 461 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: one of the class. I was so scared because I thought, 462 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: who's going to listen to me. I've never written anything, 463 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm a nobody and didn't know if my words would 464 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: make a difference. At the cocktail party on the first night, 465 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: I noticed a man with a whole bunch of people 466 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: waiting to talk to him, and he was coughing. I 467 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: didn't know who he was. I grabbed a bottle of 468 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: water and I gave it to him. He looked at 469 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: me and said thank you. I went through the three 470 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: days of author one oh one university, and after it ended, 471 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: I was taking my belongings ready to leave the conference 472 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: room and that man that I had given the water 473 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: to said, hey, you're the water girl. I said, yes, 474 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: I am, and he said, well, what brought you here? 475 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: And it was one of those moments where I thought, 476 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: do I tell him the truth about what I want 477 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: to do, or do I tell him what I was 478 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: telling everybody else over the weekend that I wanted to 479 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: write a book on grief. I was still afraid of 480 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: sharing about the afterlife, and I told him, honestly, I'm 481 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: afraid to tell you. He says, you can tell me anything. 482 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: So I sat for about an hour with David Hancock, 483 00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: the publisher for Morgan James Publishing. I told him everything 484 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: my research into the Afterlife, about my dad's death, what 485 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,479 Speaker 1: I learned about grief, how I wanted to write this 486 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: book called We Don't Die. He said, have you ever 487 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: written before? I said Noope. He said, there's a book 488 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: I want you to read about how to do a 489 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: book proposal. He says, I want you to write one. 490 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: I want you to do some sample chapters, but write 491 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: them as if you're telling me the story. So I 492 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: wrote him what is now chapter one of my book, 493 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: and I also wrote which is now chapter ten of 494 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: my book about grief. After he received that book proposal, 495 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: I got the call, how fast can you get the 496 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: whole book done? And in two months my book was written. 497 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: Hard to believe, but I did it. It was on 498 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: a fast forward to be published. I didn't know what 499 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: the sub title should be, and I had a wonderful 500 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: friend and he and I were trying to brainstorm a 501 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: good subtitle. And I remember being on an airplane and 502 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: having this aha moment, a skeptics discovery of life after death. 503 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: I remember calling Travis and giving him the subtitle, and 504 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: this man started to cry. He said, Sandra, just before 505 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 1: you called, I wrote down the exact seven words because 506 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: I thought I had a subtitle for you. So he 507 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: and I were definitely given the same information from whatever 508 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: higher power that is. Around that same time, I was 509 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: grieving so much that even though I knew Dad lived on, 510 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: it didn't help ease my pain. Reverend Rita Berkowitz was 511 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 1: someone I had met early in my journey, and that's 512 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: how I found out about electronic voice phenomena. Reverend Rita 513 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: wrote the book An Idiot's Guide to Communicating with Spirits. 514 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: In it, she also had many pictures. She's a meat 515 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: him and she's also an artist. She's retired now. She 516 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 1: no longer does private readings for people in those days, 517 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: though she did. I was lucky enough to book a 518 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: reading with Reverend Rita, and when I walked into the door, 519 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: she just smiled and she told me my grandmother was there. 520 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: She described my grandmother, who was all of about five 521 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: ft tall, cute as a button, described her her personality, 522 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: some of the things we did together, and she told 523 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: me that Grammy was a greeter in heaven, and that 524 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: totally fit my grandmother's personality, very outgoing, loved everybody, and 525 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: she told everybody, love you, honey, and she loved kissing 526 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: everybody too. Then she said, your dad's here too. So 527 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: as an artist, she picked up her sketch pad, and 528 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: the eyes came first, his brown eyes. Now I have 529 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 1: brown eyes too, so she could have guessed that, of course. 530 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: But the whole time she was drawing the picture, she 531 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: was talking about my father. She shared information from some 532 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: of the personal conversations I had with Dad just before 533 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: he passed, things that absolutely no one could know. And 534 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: then I told you my dad had to wear this 535 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: turtle shell. Right. She said, your dad would explain how 536 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: his pain felt and where he felt it, and that 537 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: he couldn't move his back because of his spine. She said, 538 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: your dad used to lean way forward in a chair 539 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 1: and push himself up just like this, and she demonstrated that, 540 00:36:54,400 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: and that was truthful. And as the picture contain you 541 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: to be drawn, she drew what looked like my dad 542 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: when he was in the Air Force back in his twenties. 543 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: Now Dad died when he was hooked up to machinery. 544 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: He was thin, gray hair, looking very ill. She didn't 545 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: draw that dad. She drew him healthy, radiant, and that's 546 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: when she told me that we get to pick our 547 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: best age when we get over there, and that was 548 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: his favorite age. I asked her, why did he say 549 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: we're going to beat this. He's going to beat the 550 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: cancer even though he was days away from dying, and 551 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: she said, he wanted you kids to know that you 552 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 1: should never stop fighting for what you believe in the 553 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 1: amount of information that she gave me was so specific 554 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: to who Dad was that I knew and still do 555 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: that he's still alive. That was the beginning of messages 556 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: from my dad. I would go on to being interviewed 557 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: because the book came out pretty quick. I'm grateful to 558 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: have had my first experience on Coast to Coast, a 559 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: m with a great George Dorry, and that night my 560 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: book hit number one on Amazon. That was a big deal. 561 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 1: I ended up getting on some television shows and radio shows, 562 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: and three times I was on when there was also 563 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: a medium and these people didn't know me, but one 564 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: head said in the studio, it's your dad deceased. Yeah. 565 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: Is his name John? Yeah? Was he a pilot? Yep, 566 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: Well he's right here with you, and he's helping you 567 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: with your life's purpose. And then another time, sitting in 568 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: a cab with a complete stranger, is your dad deceased, yeah, 569 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 1: says Aim John. Yep. Was he a pilot? Yep? Well 570 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 1: he's right by your side. That happened three different times. 571 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. I've also paid for some high 572 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: price mediums. I think they were a mistake, and now 573 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: I know if you pay hundred and fifty two an 574 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: hour max, that is plenty. But on this occasion, this 575 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: gentleman for an hour was shouting out different bits of 576 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: information about people in my afterlife, and none of them 577 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 1: were correct. But then he said, your dad is showing 578 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: me a fake candle and telling me ambiance while he 579 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 1: was in the hospital. I had given him a fake 580 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: candle and he kept saying, as cold and sterile as 581 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: the hospital is, it brought ambiance to the room. So 582 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: I knew he had my dad. And there's more. There 583 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: is more, So let's take a break and I'll tell 584 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 1: you more signs from my dad when we I'm back. 585 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the I 586 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Keep 587 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: it here on the I Heart Radio and Coast to 588 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Sander Champlain will be right 589 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: back before the art bell Vall has classic audio waiting 590 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: for you. Now. Go to Coast to Coast M dot 591 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: com for details. 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Welcome back to 602 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and I was 603 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 1: talking about signs from my dad. I've met a ton 604 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: of mediums and they've given me some information about my 605 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: dad that is written in my book, but also things 606 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: that no one could possibly know that makes me know 607 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,280 Speaker 1: that Dad is still alive. I was taking a course 608 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 1: in England and nobody knew me, and one of the 609 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: medium's got up. She says, I've got a gentleman here 610 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: who says his daughter is in the audience. He was 611 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: an airline pilot, and I thought, let me raise my hand. 612 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: Name is John was a captain for American Airlines, and 613 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: proceeded to tell me great things about my dad. And 614 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: again he's by my side, helping me when I go 615 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: to bed at night. Sometimes I will see my dad's 616 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: image in my mind and feel his love. When I'm 617 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: in a classroom on one of our online classes. Very 618 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 1: often when we are invited to visualize my loved one, 619 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 1: there's my dad there is Sometimes before they even ask 620 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: he's there. There was an online medium demonstration and I 621 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 1: had just come back from a walk and I was 622 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: being like a little kid, picking dandelions and blowing them 623 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: and making wishes. And this medium said, your father was 624 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,720 Speaker 1: with you. He saw you picking the dandelions, making wishes, 625 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: remembering when you who used to walk together. The great 626 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: Sonya and Aldie, who's capturing images of people in the afterlife, 627 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: brought through a picture of my dad that looked just 628 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 1: like he looked when he was in the Air Force. 629 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: We have no picture like that. It is definitely my dad. 630 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: And there have been times just before I go to 631 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: bed at night that all of a sudden, I'll see 632 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: a slide show of things that Dad and I did together. 633 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: These pictures show up really fast, so it's not like 634 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,439 Speaker 1: I'm creating them, They're just there. I take that as 635 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: my dad is near. Remember I told you about Dr 636 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: Bernie Siegel. Well, when I wrote the book, I needed 637 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,919 Speaker 1: to have someone right the forward, and I thought it's 638 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 1: been thirty years since my dad worked with Bernie Siegel, 639 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 1: but I decided to write to him. He answered my email, 640 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 1: he knew and remembered my dad, and he wrote a 641 00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:00,800 Speaker 1: beautiful forward for my book. He even recorded the audio version. 642 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,760 Speaker 1: So I'd like to play for you part of the forward. 643 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: We don't have time for the whole thing, but I 644 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: can tell you. If you go to We Don't Die 645 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: dot com, click on the store page, find that We 646 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: Don't Die Audio book, use coupon code free, you can 647 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,720 Speaker 1: hear the whole thing. So here's Dr Bernie Segal. First 648 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: of all, I would like to say that I agree 649 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: with Sandra when she says, we don't die, but I 650 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 1: think it is important to define what the we is. 651 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: We consistem more than one thing where mind, body, and spirit. 652 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: I compare us to a satellite, dish, remote control, and 653 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: a television or computer screen. There are many channels of 654 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: consciousness available to us, and our mind, like a remote control, 655 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: selects the channel to tune into. That then defines how 656 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 1: we act and demonstrates which program we are tuned into. 657 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: So comp oonent's may die or become nonfunctioning, but the 658 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: source remains alive and vital and still sends out messages 659 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 1: to all living things. I know from personal experience that 660 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 1: consciousness never ends. It does not require the physical body 661 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: to exist. Blind people see when they have a near 662 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: death experience, and I learned the same lesson as a 663 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: four year old when I left my body while choking 664 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: on a toy I had aspirated. I was able to 665 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: think and see while never wondering how I could accomplish 666 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 1: that if I were no longer in my body. When 667 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: the child on the bed had a seizure and vomited, 668 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 1: dislodging the toy parts, I felt sucked back into his 669 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: body as if by a vacuum, consciousness never ends, and 670 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: time does not exist when we leave our bodies. Those 671 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 1: are hard things for me to accept and understand, but 672 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: my experience has opened my mind to the truth. I 673 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: have also learned that when I loved one dies, that 674 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,479 Speaker 1: grief can be appropriate, but it must not take over 675 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: your life and be all that you think about. What 676 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 1: taught me that lesson was the experience I had with 677 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: the Angel of Death after one of my young patients 678 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: died following surgery. I couldn't accept what had happened and 679 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: how God could make a world but children died of cancer. 680 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,760 Speaker 1: The Angel took me to Heaven to see the parade 681 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: of all the children who had died that week. They 682 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: were all looking beautiful, wearing white robes and carrying a 683 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,720 Speaker 1: glowing white candle. When I noticed the child coming carrying 684 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: a dark candle, the Angel told me to go and 685 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: light it. As I approached the child, I could see 686 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: it was my patient Tony. I asked him why no 687 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: one had lit his candle. He answered, they keep lighting it, 688 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: but your tears keep putting it out. I now understand 689 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: that we are here to live and learn, and that 690 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: by learning we create a better future. For all those 691 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: who will follow us, as we are creating a more 692 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 1: enlightened consciousness for them to exist in. So when our 693 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: bodies can no longer function and demonstrate the message of 694 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: our life, then it is time to leave and become 695 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: perfect again. I hear voices and know when they are 696 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: coming from the collective consciousness. The voice has helped me 697 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 1: to experience a much more meaningful life. I have written 698 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,760 Speaker 1: about some of the events messages that helped my father 699 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 1: to die laughing and help me to adopt the dog 700 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: named Buddy after writing my book Buddy's Candle. I have 701 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: also had mystics bring me messages from my dead patients 702 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: and family members, and they mentioned their names and spoke 703 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,760 Speaker 1: with words as that person had. When my parents died, 704 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: my mystic friend, who does not know them, called me 705 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,280 Speaker 1: and said my parents were together again or being shown 706 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 1: around by someone who likes cigarettes and chocolate. Before I 707 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: could answer, she said, oh, it's Elizabeth Coogle Ross. Yes, 708 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 1: Elizabeth was a close friend and mentor of mine. No coincidence. 709 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 1: I also had another unexpected experience when a friend, while 710 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 1: talking to me on the phone, heard how busy I 711 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 1: was and said, why are you living this life. She 712 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 1: wanted me to slow down and do less, but I 713 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 1: went into a trance and had a past life experience. 714 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: I will share that I realized I had become a 715 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: surgeon because I had killed with the sword of my 716 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: past life due to a lack of faith in my Lord, 717 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: like being tuned into the wrong channel and voice, and 718 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 1: I now wanted to heal and cure with a knife. 719 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 1: I also learned that words words, words can become sword, 720 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 1: sword swords and kill a cure. I want people to 721 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: understand that to me, a past life experience does not 722 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,919 Speaker 1: mean I literally lived the experience, but that I am 723 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 1: impregnated with the consciousness of someone whose life preceded mine. 724 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 1: I think this also accounts for the talent we sometimes 725 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 1: see in children that we can't explain, so the body 726 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 1: dies but we do not. I have also had experiences 727 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:16,439 Speaker 1: with animal communication, and when animal intuitive Amelia Kincaid, while 728 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 1: sitting in Los Angeles, told me where to find a 729 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 1: missing cat in Connecticut in incredible detail while seeing through 730 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 1: the cat's eyes, I became a believer and have since 731 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 1: communicated with our pets. The key to this and all 732 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 1: consciousness communication is the quiet mind, similar to the symbolism 733 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 1: of the still pond, which then allows us to see 734 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 1: the truth reflected back to us. When your life is 735 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 1: filled with turbulence, you cannot experience what we are sharing 736 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 1: with you. We have to be open to our potential 737 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 1: and not close our minds based upon beliefs, but learn 738 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 1: to accept apt based upon our experience. My definition of 739 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: God is loving, intelligent, conscious energy. Therefore, we are immortal 740 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 1: through our love and consciousness, and capable of altering the 741 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 1: physical world through our consciousness and energy by creating the 742 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 1: future we desire. When we choose what is life enhancing 743 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 1: for every living thing, we make miracles possible. Our bodies 744 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,439 Speaker 1: are the tools we use, but cannot last forever as 745 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 1: our love, energy, and consciousness can and do. I can 746 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: think of so many stories in which messages from the 747 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 1: dead have been shared with me by their loved ones. 748 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 1: In one case, a murdered young woman loved birds and 749 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,800 Speaker 1: that her sister's outdoor wedding. A bird interrupted the wedding 750 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 1: by making so much noise that everyone's reaction was it 751 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,760 Speaker 1: was her sister. As the mother was telling this story, 752 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: a bird flew in the open window of the room 753 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 1: where we were meeting, never had that ever happened in 754 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 1: all the years we met there. Your son loved butterflies, 755 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 1: and after his death, a butterfly follows you while out 756 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 1: walking in Connecticut. When his dad got home, he looked 757 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,440 Speaker 1: up the butterfly in his son's book, and it was 758 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: a species only found in South America. I have photographs 759 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 1: of a butterfly that stayed with my wife and me 760 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 1: for a day and a half after my wife rescued 761 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 1: it from a store by offering it her hand. As 762 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 1: we did an outdoor workshop on the Hawaiian island of Kauai, 763 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 1: where my patient had died. When we were ready to 764 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 1: go to sleep, my wife went out and brushed the 765 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 1: butterfly off our shoulder, and he came back into our 766 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 1: apartment sitting on our other shoulder. It finally flew off 767 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 1: when the workshop ended. Remember, we can be thrown off 768 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,320 Speaker 1: the earth when our bodies die, but we are still 769 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,040 Speaker 1: riding the horse of life. When we are ready to 770 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 1: leave our bodies and are free of conflict, we can 771 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,359 Speaker 1: decide to leave with no difficulties. As my father all 772 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 1: put it in giving his advice to seniors, tell them 773 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,840 Speaker 1: to just fall up. The night he was tired of 774 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: his body. He told us no dinner or vitamins, and 775 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 1: fell up that evening at age death. What a great 776 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 1: teacher you are. Yet few of us elect to take 777 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,240 Speaker 1: your class and learn about life. That is the essence 778 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,319 Speaker 1: of Death's teaching. Death is not an elective. We must 779 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 1: all take the class. The wise students ordered the class 780 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,720 Speaker 1: in their early years and find enlightenment. They are prepared 781 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 1: when graduation date comes. It is your commencement. And another 782 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,359 Speaker 1: poem I wrote is from a distance. They sang, God 783 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 1: is watching us from a distance. I don't agree. I 784 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 1: know God, and it is a short trip to God. 785 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 1: When I was a child, I thought God was way 786 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,880 Speaker 1: up there, a long way off. Now I know God 787 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,760 Speaker 1: is here. Those who understand no that if you can't 788 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 1: see God, it is because you can't stoop low enough, 789 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,359 Speaker 1: or think you have to be tall enough to see 790 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,800 Speaker 1: in a mirror. Be still, bend forward and get close 791 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 1: to yourself, and water will reflect your godliness too. Thank you, 792 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 1: Dr Bernie Seagull, Thank you to my dad, and thank 793 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,839 Speaker 1: you to you for listening. You never know when the 794 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 1: worst times of your life can give you the best 795 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 1: things of your life. So have faith, make a difference. 796 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 1: For another person, give yourself a big hug and know 797 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 1: that you are loved. I'm Sander Samplain. Thank you for 798 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 1: listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the I Heart 799 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. And 800 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,799 Speaker 1: if you like this episode of Shades of the Afterlife, 801 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 1: wait until you hear the next next one. 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