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Speaker 2: Make sure you stay tuned, o Jo Luka Doncic made
Speaker 2: his debut for the Lakers, has not played since he
Speaker 2: injured that calf muscle. On Christmas Day, the Lakers defeat
Speaker 2: the Jazz one two. Luca was warming up. Excuse me,
Speaker 2: Lebron was warming up with Luca's T shirt. They placed
Speaker 2: a seventy seven T shirt on all the chairs within
Speaker 2: the stadium and the pregame, Lebron told Luca, Luca be
Speaker 2: your f himself. Don't fit in, fit the f out
Speaker 2: the Lakers, who won sixth straight twelve out of fourteen. Overall,
Speaker 2: Lebron James had twenty four points, eight assists, seven rebounds,
Speaker 2: Austin Reeves twenty two points, nine rebounds, fourd Zip assist,
Speaker 2: Rui Hachimurra twenty one point six rebounds, Luca Limited Action
Speaker 2: fourteen points, five rebounds for assists, and god Win the
Speaker 2: two way player has seventeen points.
Speaker 3: The Lakers.
Speaker 2: The last game before the All Star Break is Winnesday
Speaker 2: against this very Utah Jazz team. They defeated tonight up
Speaker 2: in Utah before the All Star Break. Let's continue right quick,
Speaker 2: oh Joe. According to Shams, the Hornets exploring disputing the
Speaker 2: Lakers failed physical on Williams. The Shawn Harmon's Hornets have
Speaker 2: been in contact with the NBA as they explore options
Speaker 2: to dispute the Lakers failed physical assentsment oh Mark Williams.
Speaker 2: Sources tell ESPN Williams Dalton connect trade was next Saturday,
Speaker 2: and now the Hornets way avenues to challenge. We'll talking
Speaker 2: about that a little later, Oh Joe, I like what
Speaker 2: I saw. I don't know if you like what you
Speaker 2: saw with Luca and I look, it's only one game.
Speaker 2: That's a very very small sample size. I like what
Speaker 2: they Obviously, Luca's gonna start kind of staggering because you
Speaker 2: want one of those guys to be on the court
Speaker 2: pretty much at all time. But even if you don't
Speaker 2: have them on the court, you still have a primary
Speaker 2: ball handle in Austin Reeves. So obviously Lebron can handle
Speaker 2: the ball, Luca cann't handle the ball. But when both
Speaker 2: of those guys are off the court, if they are
Speaker 2: off the court, you still have Austin Reeves who can
Speaker 2: handle the ball, who's playing extremely well. And so I
Speaker 2: like what I saw, and it's gonna be a lot
Speaker 2: of staggering. So when Luca goes off the court, Lebron
Speaker 2: is on, Lebron's off the court, Luca's on, or if
Speaker 2: both of those guys are off the court, off the court,
Speaker 2: as I said, Austin.
Speaker 3: Reeves is on. But I like the way they move
Speaker 3: the ball.
Speaker 2: And if you know Luca, Luca can get hot and
Speaker 2: give you twenty twenty five points on the quarter. But
Speaker 2: he doesn't have to worry about facilitating because a lot
Speaker 2: of times when Luca was on the court before he
Speaker 2: got Kyrie went on the hot streak, he still had
Speaker 2: to worry about getting other people involved. You don't have
Speaker 2: to worry about that. He has Lebron, he has off
Speaker 2: the reefs. But I like what I saw. And uh,
Speaker 2: Hayes Jackson Hayes is the happiest guy because all he's
Speaker 2: gonna do is getting lobb dunks.
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, that work, but that's all he did anyway.
Speaker 2: But he's going to average probably about fourteen points a
Speaker 2: game getting sixty or seven lob dunks a game.
Speaker 1: So I like what I saw earlier on. Although it's
Speaker 1: a very very.
Speaker 5: Small sample size, listen, even though it's a small samblicide,
Speaker 5: you can tell that the future is going to be
Speaker 5: very bright for the Lakers. Now, I know people don't
Speaker 5: want to you don't want to get too happy they
Speaker 5: are playing the Utah Jazz. But obviously you understand how dynamic,
Speaker 5: you know, Bron and Luca are playing together, even though
Speaker 5: the simple sizes is small, especially with the IQ that
Speaker 5: Luca has, especially in the IQ, with the IQ that
Speaker 5: Lebron as as well.
Speaker 1: The spacing obviously with Luca and Brown on the court
Speaker 1: was awesome.
Speaker 5: You could tell that Reason is going to be able
Speaker 5: to eat as long as as well as everybody else.
Speaker 1: So I'm listen. I'm excited for the Lakers.
Speaker 5: I don't think I still don't think it's enough to
Speaker 5: be able to compete and contend for a title.
Speaker 1: I still think they need another piece. I could be wrong.
Speaker 1: You're gonna tindu. You could tell me you would know
Speaker 1: bet better than I can.
Speaker 5: I still think there would be you would need another
Speaker 5: piece to add to them, to that puzzle to be
Speaker 5: able to challenge out there in the West.
Speaker 2: They need a big. The only the only big that
Speaker 2: have is Jackson Hayes, and I don't think that's enough.
Speaker 2: You only want to play Jackson Hayes somewhere between, you know.
Speaker 2: Fourteen twenty minutes a night. He's a lot a guy
Speaker 2: that you're gonna run out there and play twenty five
Speaker 2: thirty minutes thirty five minutes a night.
Speaker 3: That's not what he is.
Speaker 2: That's not He's not been that player in his NBA career,
Speaker 2: So you probably need another big That's why they tried
Speaker 2: to change for the Williams kid. But as I was
Speaker 2: reading earlier, Oh Joe, he failed the physical go ahead.
Speaker 5: And now I have a question when it comes when
Speaker 5: it comes to feeling of physical is it hass injuries
Speaker 5: or does he actually have an injury right now to
Speaker 5: where he couldn't pass it?
Speaker 3: I'm curious. You know what happened that works? Oh Joe,
Speaker 3: you know what it happened.
Speaker 2: When they bring you in there, they tech you out,
Speaker 2: they start pulling on your joints and your shoulders and
Speaker 2: your knees and twist your ancup.
Speaker 1: Oh it's you.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: They give you MRIs, they give you you know, all
Speaker 2: that other stuff. But here's a guy that's been you know,
Speaker 2: he kind of has an injury history.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I.
Speaker 2: Don't know what why y'all so anxious to get up
Speaker 2: for If he's so good, y'all't you welcoming back right
Speaker 2: right right, Clearly, clearly there's more than what's going on.
Speaker 2: They're like, hey, we thought we had another shooter, uh,
Speaker 2: because we know what Dalvin was. Yeah, he's kind of
Speaker 2: cooled off a lot. Early on, he was he was
Speaker 2: really letting it fly. Had some big game shooting the
Speaker 2: three ball for the Lakers. Can put the ball on
Speaker 2: the floor, can finish at the rim. I know the
Speaker 2: Lakers really like him, but sometimes you have to give
Speaker 2: up something to get something that.
Speaker 3: They realized they needed.
Speaker 2: A big Luca likes playing with very athletic bigs because
Speaker 2: he can get into the paint. He can denth it,
Speaker 2: dish it. A lot of lob dunks. Look go look
Speaker 2: at Lively, Go look at Daniel Gaffer. Look at the
Speaker 2: guys that he's played with. Guys get a lot of
Speaker 2: easy baskets because hey, he's gonna get into the paint
Speaker 2: because he can change speeds. He's really herky jerky. But
Speaker 2: right now, I think that's the thing that they're missing.
Speaker 2: They're getting better at shooting the ball from outside. Gabe
Speaker 2: Vinson is getting better at shooting the three ball. He's
Speaker 2: finally getting his legs back. Last year was a wah
Speaker 2: year for him, and he's finally starting to shoot like
Speaker 2: the Gabe Vincent that we saw his last year in
Speaker 2: Miami when he really let the ball fly, help that
Speaker 2: team get to the NBA Finals, end up losing to
Speaker 2: the Nuggets. Austin Reeves has been on a tear lately.
Speaker 2: He's been unbelievable. He's just getting better and better and
Speaker 2: better every year. Would I be surprised eventually if he's
Speaker 2: not an All Star? I can see it happening.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be hard because he had Luca and he
Speaker 2: had Lebron on his team. But here's the thing, O Joe,
Speaker 2: he's gonna be getting the third best defender. You've got
Speaker 2: to give one of your best defenders, especially with the wing.
Speaker 2: He's gotta guard Luca, he's gotta guard Lebron. So now
Speaker 2: it's kind of like that third receiver. If you got
Speaker 2: two dogs outside that third receiver, like bag, Hey, y'all
Speaker 2: give me the third and fourth corner, I'm definitely gonna
Speaker 2: You're gonna he's.
Speaker 1: It's gonna eat Ruey.
Speaker 2: There's another guy that's gonna get big because both of Lebron,
Speaker 2: because they're big, guards can see over the defense, so
Speaker 2: they can penetrate, skip pass, hammer pants over the top.
Speaker 2: It really doesn't matter to them. And we know they
Speaker 2: both can score. Luca has the highest the third highest
Speaker 2: scoring average in NBA history at almost twenty nine points
Speaker 2: a game, behind Jordan, behind Will. When it comes to
Speaker 2: the playoffs, he has the high second highest scoring average,
Speaker 2: behind only Michael Jordan. So that just lets you know
Speaker 2: what a proficient guy he is at scoring the basketball.
Speaker 2: And so you look at a guy that's average and
Speaker 2: basically twenty nine eight to eight, which is crazy, and
Speaker 2: he won't be twenty six until the twenty eighth of
Speaker 2: this month. So the Lakers has someone to win. Lebron
Speaker 2: de finally decides if and win, that's gonna be because
Speaker 2: it's gonna take a lot of pressure off Lebron, oh Joe,
Speaker 2: because he's not gonna have the workload of having to
Speaker 2: bring the ball up the court. He's not going to
Speaker 2: have the workload of trying to have to facilitate for
Speaker 2: everybody else. Luca is gonna take a lot of pressure
Speaker 2: off Lebron. I can see Lebron now play another two
Speaker 2: to three years.
Speaker 5: Right, you know what you're saying that we talk about
Speaker 5: you know, Luca taking some of the pressure off Lebron.
Speaker 1: Obviously Luca, some of the pressure is taking off him
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 5: Even he is as efficient as he is, he had
Speaker 5: to squad around him that where he doesn't have to
Speaker 5: do all the work he has he has. Hella athletes
Speaker 5: a lot of players with length, and I think he's
Speaker 5: going to be going to be a great addition. I
Speaker 5: think they just need a big They need it big.
Speaker 5: And if they get it big, now, I'm not sure
Speaker 5: how many how many viable options out there that can
Speaker 5: come in and you can plug and play and make
Speaker 5: a difference.
Speaker 2: Right now, now they're not a whole where you can't
Speaker 2: trade for anybody, So anybody's going to be basically streak
Speaker 2: free agents, or maybe somebody get cut and you able
Speaker 2: to bring the men like that.
Speaker 3: But I know they were looking at if.
Speaker 1: They getting cut, there's there's not much they can do
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: But but no that but Luka and Lebron can bring
Speaker 2: it out of them. But everybody ain't got a Luca
Speaker 2: and Lebron. But you know they were looking at valentiunas
Speaker 2: they looked at Walker Kessler who's on the Utah Jazz.
Speaker 2: But seemingly the Jazz wanted more than what the Lakers
Speaker 2: were willing to part ways with. The only guys are
Speaker 2: out there available. I think that Jabel McGee, I think
Speaker 2: alex Linn, Dwight Howard.
Speaker 1: Don't know what hold is.
Speaker 2: Dwight probably a year younger than Lebron oh Man because
Speaker 2: he was he was in the the draft class after Lebron.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm thinking.
Speaker 2: He came straight out of high school also, so he
Speaker 2: should probably be a year younger, a year younger than
Speaker 2: Lebron Lebron, but you're only at can you can? And
Speaker 2: Dwhite keeps himself in great shape, The question is can
Speaker 2: he I believe he can give you twenty minutes a night?
Speaker 2: He and Jackson Hayes alternating. You know there's gonna be
Speaker 2: sometimes they go with a small lineup, right, But the
Speaker 2: question is can those guys between the two of them,
Speaker 2: can they give you twenty twenty four minutes a night.
Speaker 2: I believe they can, but they definitely need Remember big
Speaker 2: Jackson Haydes is not nearly enough. Like I said, you
Speaker 2: don't want to play him a ton of minutes. He's
Speaker 2: an energy guy. He's gonna block some shots. He'll challenge
Speaker 2: some stuff at the rim. But he's a good role player.
Speaker 2: And the thing is you don't have to run plays
Speaker 2: for him because you don't. You got enough scoring. You
Speaker 2: don't need other guys that you have to run plays for.
Speaker 2: You got Luca, you got Lebron, you got Austin Reeves
Speaker 2: that can score, You got Ruined, you got four guys
Speaker 2: that can score. Now you need bigs. I ain't got
Speaker 2: to run no place for you. Get it off the rim, futbacks, lobs,
Speaker 2: can you rebound?
Speaker 3: Can You're challenging stuff at the rim?
Speaker 2: Because when you give up Anthony Davis, you give up
Speaker 2: one of the premier defensive players and one of the
Speaker 2: premier defensive players, but he's one of the best two
Speaker 2: way players also that's in the game. But you gave
Speaker 2: that up because he was your last lot of defense.
Speaker 2: He did a lot of covering up and think they
Speaker 2: was like, makeup all the that's your fault, the blemishes
Speaker 2: that you have. He could cover it up, right, and
Speaker 2: so that's what that's what you need. That's what you need.
Speaker 2: Is so kN Jackson a blocked the shots. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: know the white We know JaVale McGee can challenge shots.
Speaker 2: We don't know how much tread they got, but uh, look,
Speaker 2: you don't need You're.
Speaker 1: Not gonna get your kitchen, so I stop right.
Speaker 2: So you just have to basically hope that one of
Speaker 2: these guys that they're able to secure can give you
Speaker 2: valuable minutes because Luca and the eight and Lebron is
Speaker 2: gonna give you plenty.
Speaker 1: Now when now, I obviously don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know how basketball works to the extent that
Speaker 5: you do during this doing this break, doing this All
Speaker 5: Star break.
Speaker 1: Isn't that the time you already have a big coming in.
Speaker 5: At that point, so you can hit the ground running
Speaker 5: when you come out of the r Star break and
Speaker 5: having a big you know, to go to go with
Speaker 5: everybody else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the question is is that Rob is
Speaker 2: probably scowling. They're looking at But like I said, there's
Speaker 2: not a whole lot out there. It's not like you
Speaker 2: got a cream of crop work in a litter. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: so you only got a handful of guys out there.
Speaker 2: Javel McGee has familiarity with the Lakers. Dwhite House has
Speaker 2: familiarity with the Lakers. I don't believe anybody else is
Speaker 2: gonna be get cut or get on excuse I say,
Speaker 2: cut a buy out right right. I don't see it.
Speaker 2: I don't really see any boys happening. I think Alex
Speaker 2: Lynn is available. He's another big Like I said, you're
Speaker 2: not gonna get somebody that's a double double machine. Most
Speaker 2: of the guys gonna have an older Javel McGee is
Speaker 2: a little older. D White House a little older Javel
Speaker 2: probably can give you, I will say, somewhere fifteen sixteen
Speaker 2: minutes a night. The White maybe a little more sixteen
Speaker 2: to eighteen minutes a night.
Speaker 3: But maybe that's all you need.
Speaker 1: Does it matter that they don't give you much on
Speaker 1: the office the end of the ball.
Speaker 2: Though, No, you got if you know if Lebron James
Speaker 2: that averages twenty five, Luca that's averaging twenty eight, Auston
Speaker 2: Reeve that's averaging twenty ry, that's averaging sixteen.
Speaker 3: If that's not enough with the day.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's good, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: And consider in consider night, and you hope your bench
Speaker 2: gave Vinson can continue to get better and better. I
Speaker 2: like this good one kid that I saw, good one
Speaker 2: Godwin the kid that I saw tonight.
Speaker 3: They came up the bench. He's a scorer.
Speaker 2: You can tell when he gets the ball in his ends,
Speaker 2: he's looking to get to the basket. He's looking to
Speaker 2: put the ball in the basket. So I like what
Speaker 2: I saw with him. I don't want to get too
Speaker 2: carried away. Like I said, Utah wasn't playing any defense tonight.
Speaker 2: But if you look at him, I followed him last
Speaker 2: couple of games. He can put the ball in the basket,
Speaker 2: and he can put the ball in the basket at
Speaker 2: an elite clip. Van Doo's not going to give you
Speaker 2: much on the offensive end, but he's a defensive guy.
Speaker 2: Phinney Smith, he's streaking, he can get hot, he can
Speaker 2: hit you about three or four threes in the game.
Speaker 2: But you're looking for him to defend at an elite
Speaker 2: level on the defensive end.
Speaker 1: So Van do Phinney Smith that those are your defensive guys.
Speaker 2: Jackson Hayes is a guy that can challenge that the
Speaker 2: rim gave Vincent. He's another defensive guy. So look when
Speaker 2: you got Austin Reeves, guy's gonna go at alstere Reeves.
Speaker 2: They'renna attack him. Guys are gonna attack Luca. They know
Speaker 2: Lebron cannot exert that kind of defensive energy on a
Speaker 2: nightly basis. Yeah, yeah, so somebody's gonna have to defend somebody, right,
Speaker 2: But you would have to defend those guys also because
Speaker 2: you got three guys that can put the ball in
Speaker 2: the basket at an elite level.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I love the way Oster Reeves has gotten.
Speaker 2: Better, better, better better. We know what Lebron is, we
Speaker 2: know what Luke is. The question is can they add
Speaker 2: another piece, which I believe will be big, that can
Speaker 2: give them enough offense which you don't need much. Can
Speaker 2: you give us eight points? Again, but what we need
Speaker 2: is defense. Can you rebound, can you defend? Can you challenge?
Speaker 2: Can you clog the paint? And I believe if they
Speaker 2: get that, I think they'll be okay. But this, like
Speaker 2: I said, they tried to rescind this trade. I'm not sure. Look,
Speaker 2: the guy has it had, He's had some injuries. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean he's a big guy. Oh Joe, he give
Speaker 2: you sixteen points. I think he's almost seeing a double double.
Speaker 2: But he's injured and most times, every once in a while,
Speaker 2: if they really want a guy, I remember, I think
Speaker 2: it was last year, Yeah, maybe a year, maybe a
Speaker 2: year and a half ago, the Warriors they traded for
Speaker 2: Garrett Payton the second he was injured. He failed and physical,
Speaker 2: but they really liked him because they had had it
Speaker 2: before and so they knew what they were getting there
Speaker 2: and say, you know what, We'll go ahead, don't worry
Speaker 2: about it. Yes, he felt, we'll work with him. We'll
Speaker 2: let him take because.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing on Joe, I'm not trading for a
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna he injured.
Speaker 2: And I gotta wait. No, bro, I need I need,
Speaker 2: I need you to get I need you to go
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I think that's what happened with Anthony Davis because
Speaker 2: Anthony was a d was hurt and he was like okay,
Speaker 2: and he came maybe came back a little bit too soon,
Speaker 2: and so now he tweaked out a doctor and now
Speaker 2: he's gonna be out so extended time. And I just
Speaker 2: saw they lost Daniel Gaffer to night. So two of
Speaker 2: the three bigs they lost. Hey, now go ahead.
Speaker 5: You know it's funny when I think about do you
Speaker 5: think Anthony davis injury history played a part in them
Speaker 5: letting them go and not really not really now, I
Speaker 5: don't want to say not caring, but understanding that they
Speaker 5: could good Luca and had no problem letting Anthony Davis
Speaker 5: go simply because of his injury history.
Speaker 2: If Anthony Davis was one hundred percent healthy and played
Speaker 2: all the game like a c Green, you're not passing
Speaker 2: up an opportunity to get Luca Dongeons twenty five years
Speaker 2: of age, averaging twenty nine points a game, eight rebounds,
Speaker 2: nine assists.
Speaker 3: You're not giving that up.
Speaker 2: There's never been a trade like this before, Oh Joe,
Speaker 2: There's never been a trade like this.
Speaker 1: Not it is comparable.
Speaker 5: Is there a football trade comparable to the Anthony Luka
Speaker 5: Dahnton trade?
Speaker 1: Or is nothing even close?
Speaker 2: No, because what happened If you go back and look
Speaker 2: at the trades. If you say, what about Kareem. Kareem
Speaker 2: wanted to be out, He wanted to leave and come
Speaker 2: to La Acthle. Karine really wanted to go to New York,
Speaker 2: but he ended up going to the Lakers. With that
Speaker 2: being said, Luca is twenty five, and he didn't ask
Speaker 2: to be traded. Anthony Davis asked to be traded. Guys
Speaker 2: have asked in their prime to be traded. Luca is
Speaker 2: twenty five, five times first team All NBA, led the
Speaker 2: league in scoring Rookie of the Year. They didn't ask
Speaker 2: and they moved in. There's not a whole lot I
Speaker 2: don't if you really think about it, there's not a
Speaker 2: whole lot of guys that you're probably not gonna move
Speaker 2: in for. You're not gonna move in for the Yoke,
Speaker 2: You're not gonna move in for Shay. I don't know
Speaker 2: if they're moving for Jason Tatum because they like that mesh.
Speaker 2: But other than that, Nico Collins would have took that
Speaker 2: to the Warriors and say give us kd may or
Speaker 2: stock Kurt, Jeff Stephan is not going anywhere. Okay, Okay, okay, Jeff,
Speaker 2: it's not going anywhere. No, Steph is not going there.
Speaker 2: Joe Lokimmer is not Joe Lakam is not going doing
Speaker 2: that that deal. But but we talked about it. What
Speaker 2: the owner is saying is like, Okay, we fitting pulled
Speaker 2: to miss Power back right, y'all got too much.
Speaker 3: Y'all been where y'all want to go and who y'all
Speaker 3: want and y'all they didn't know it all the screement.
Speaker 2: That he that's a shock wave because do you hear
Speaker 2: all the players talking like, hey, let us know everybody
Speaker 2: is touchable.
Speaker 5: You know it lets us know everybody's touchable. But we
Speaker 5: still don't know exactly what happened. We still don't know
Speaker 5: exactly what happened where you're getting off a player that's
Speaker 5: been putting up the numbers. He's been putting up as
Speaker 5: consistently as he has, despite despite the injury and not
Speaker 5: playing since you know, December. Something else is going on
Speaker 5: behind closed doors, huh, especially for a player that's eligible
Speaker 5: for a supermax you know, five year through forty five
Speaker 5: whatever whatever, whatever the numbers may have been. If you're
Speaker 5: that good, if that good, how do you let someone
Speaker 5: go like that?
Speaker 1: What is going on behind closed doors where.
Speaker 5: You let him go knowing that you're not going to
Speaker 5: be able to replace that type of productivity.
Speaker 1: You're not going to you know, I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: you can get so formed, but it just is not
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 2: Luka, doncis this Summers in line to get five years,
Speaker 2: three hundred and forty five, three hundred and fifty million dollars,
Speaker 2: that's seventy million dollars a year normally if somebody's getting
Speaker 2: that kind of man, you don't want to have any questions.
Speaker 2: I don't want no injury history I don't want a
Speaker 2: guy that I have to motivate to do what he
Speaker 2: needs to do.
Speaker 3: What second, that's a lot of money, oh Joe?
Speaker 2: And so what a lot of the players are thinking, well,
Speaker 2: to keep somebody from getting that super mac contract. If
Speaker 2: I trade him, now I saved. Somebody else has to
Speaker 2: deal with that. But still even if you save, that
Speaker 2: means they still can't get the SuperMac when you once
Speaker 2: you get traded, because now that original team doesn't them
Speaker 2: have the bird?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Ights, I have a question.
Speaker 5: You think about the player that's that good, a player
Speaker 5: that's that dynamic. Now I'm not even speaking lucas you
Speaker 5: know in this sense that great, right mm hmm. With
Speaker 5: every great player, aren't there some type of issues internally?
Speaker 5: Think about it, Think about some of the stories, think
Speaker 5: about some of the stories. As great as Kobe was,
Speaker 5: as greate as Michael Jordan was. Yes, do you think
Speaker 5: everything was always perfect?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 5: There was no court because I think that what what
Speaker 5: what what was going on and the issues they had
Speaker 5: with with Luca It had nothing to do with what
Speaker 5: he does on the court, right.
Speaker 2: I think the thing was is that the one thing,
Speaker 2: no matter what you thought was they were too driven,
Speaker 2: they were too motivated.
Speaker 3: They came in shape.
Speaker 2: Yes, and basketball was the end all be all, right,
Speaker 2: and so if you're investing that kind of money, you
Speaker 2: need basketball to be the end all be all. Now,
Speaker 2: like I said, uh maybe, and plus o Joe, I
Speaker 2: need to wrestle some of this power back because Luca
Speaker 2: is so powerful in that organization.
Speaker 3: If I give him this money, he's damn near the owner.
Speaker 1: You think you're made it worse? Hey, And so that
Speaker 1: seems to me. Excuse me, excuse me, I hate, I
Speaker 1: hate to cut you off. Do you see the kind
Speaker 1: of money NBA players make.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, even if he didn't get the Super Max,
Speaker 5: he's still making fuck you money.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my bad, My bad, God, dog get my bad.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. He's making a few money.
Speaker 5: Yes, you know, all the players you know in the
Speaker 5: NBA are making a few money. So now NBA owner
Speaker 5: trying to find a way to you know what, we're
Speaker 5: gonna pull and take some of this power back. Well
Speaker 5: it's too late now, it's too late. Based on the
Speaker 5: kind of money they're making. Everything is guaranteed, Yes, everything's guaranteed.
Speaker 5: So there's really nothing they can do.
Speaker 2: But Here's the thing, though, show the players gonna be
Speaker 2: on their best behavior because three point fifty, now you
Speaker 2: go down.
Speaker 3: To two twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Don't do me like that.
Speaker 3: I've just said that what.
Speaker 1: Twenty nine?
Speaker 5: What is there that I can't do with two twenty
Speaker 5: nine that I can do with three fifty?
Speaker 2: I can do just about the same thing. That's the
Speaker 2: that's the same thing that you said with the NFL players.
Speaker 2: What can I do with seventy five million that I
Speaker 2: can do with fifty? That's a bit. Think about it.
Speaker 2: And you leave Texas with no state income back, you
Speaker 2: go to New you go to California where there's a
Speaker 2: thirteen percent tax rate, right right.
Speaker 3: Luca is a global star, yes sir.
Speaker 2: And you gave him up and put him in the
Speaker 2: biggest market for the next decade. This is the Lakers.
Speaker 2: This is what they always do. This is what they've
Speaker 2: always done. Go back and look at the Lakers history.
Speaker 2: It started out when they got Will and then they
Speaker 2: got Kareem, they got McAdoo, they got Shot, they got Lebron,
Speaker 2: they got Anthony Davis, and now they got Luca. This
Speaker 2: is what they do, right, So people shouldn't be surprised
Speaker 2: the only thing that I think, the only thing the
Speaker 2: NBA owners are upset about.
Speaker 3: Bro, you ain't open it up. Do you know what
Speaker 3: Luca would have commanded or.
Speaker 1: If everyone had a chance to get him, Rudy go'ban
Speaker 1: went for four first round picks?
Speaker 2: Four? Do you know when Luca Donchin, a twenty five
Speaker 2: year old global international superstar would have went fun?
Speaker 5: So that means that means Nico Collins and Rob Clinkt
Speaker 5: had some where they were in cahoots, behind behind, behind
Speaker 5: closed doors, obviously not letting anybody know what they were
Speaker 5: gonna do, simply.
Speaker 1: Because it's the Lakers. Where else would you want to go?
Speaker 5: But the Lakers they have to make biggas flash, they
Speaker 5: have to have a superstar.
Speaker 2: But the Laker ain't had the best I bet you,
Speaker 2: I guarantee you if they had to open this thing up,
Speaker 2: Lakers wouldn't have come close to.
Speaker 3: The best package.
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: But Rob Lincoln was Kobe's agent, Nico Collin with that
Speaker 2: Nike work with Cobe, with Jordan's work with Lebron. You
Speaker 2: see with now hopefully people are understanding it's all about relationships.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I keep telling y'all, Oh, it ain't about this.
Speaker 3: It's about that.
Speaker 1: No, it's not Rob and Nicole had a relationship. I
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: It's this.
Speaker 1: I like this, they say, you know, you know, it's funny.
Speaker 1: You know what I do like.
Speaker 5: I like also is we need to be a little
Speaker 5: bit more and I'm asking for this. I'm asking for this.
Speaker 5: We need a little bit be a little bit more
Speaker 5: active on the basketball. Then, because now that football season
Speaker 5: is over, guess where I'm going to be at watching
Speaker 5: the game courtside. I'm not watching the game home wan't
Speaker 5: for the use some of this nightcab money, but I'm
Speaker 5: going to sit court side talking about dog.
Speaker 3: I'm saving. I'm saving my.
Speaker 5: Money where you're going, I'm oh, now you want to save.
Speaker 5: I'm appreciate you about saving all all this time.
Speaker 2: I ain't got no big change. I ain't got no
Speaker 2: big eighty four. I want't I stop on night Cap Live.
Speaker 1: I ain't got that.
Speaker 3: I don't have five bracelets. Wait a minute, hold on,
Speaker 3: hold on.
Speaker 1: I had to prepare myself for live shows.
Speaker 5: We have a tour. We have a tour coming up.
Speaker 5: So that's my stuff specifically for the tour. And now
Speaker 5: I can put that. I put that away and that's
Speaker 5: not coming out again until April, when it's time to
Speaker 5: go on said tour.
Speaker 1: Now, listen, you have to understand now, pat Riley and
Speaker 1: I have a relationship. Mickey Rrison and I have a relationship.
Speaker 1: I have a relationship with bad by the Bidio.
Speaker 5: I'm going to sit courtside next to the Lakers, next
Speaker 5: next to the Lakers, next to the heat bench.
Speaker 1: That's only fifteen hundred dollars. That's just no disrespect to
Speaker 1: anybody in this head.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's a drop dropping the bucket for
Speaker 5: fifteen hundred dollars. I could that's feasible for me for
Speaker 5: the rest of the season, after all Star break, where
Speaker 5: I can get a better end of the game watching
Speaker 5: it up close, being able to talk, and so I
Speaker 5: can sound like you, so I can sound like Steven.
Speaker 5: I just sound like Malika Andrews, you know, so I
Speaker 5: just sound like Perk Perkins. Yeah, all right, give me,
Speaker 5: give me three weeks.
Speaker 1: Watch how it sound.
Speaker 2: I am uh, but yeah, I mean I like what
Speaker 2: the Lakers have done. I like Lebron, But like I said,
Speaker 2: I can see Lebron playing two or three years for
Speaker 2: the simple fact the rourk low that he will. The
Speaker 2: question is his mind, like you said, because he's Lebron
Speaker 2: James and he's been great since he stepped pot in
Speaker 2: the NBA, and if there's any point in time that
Speaker 2: he can't be great, he'll walk away.
Speaker 3: Just like Tom Brady.
Speaker 2: Tom realized Tom Tom Brady great.
Speaker 3: See people like what Tom. Look at Tom's numbers.
Speaker 2: But Tom, when you are a great player, you only
Speaker 2: get compared to a younger self. You don't get compared
Speaker 2: to the other players. Aaron Rodgers. When you look at
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers numbers, they weren't that bad, but you compared
Speaker 2: Aaron to the young Aaron when he was throwing forty
Speaker 2: five testdowns with four peaks, he was thirty eight touchdowns
Speaker 2: with three peaks.
Speaker 1: He was this and that that MVP.
Speaker 2: When you're great, it's hard for you to be anything
Speaker 2: other than great, right, and the and the and now
Speaker 2: all of a sudden people look at it like.
Speaker 3: Damn, I'm a rig. It's hard. It's hard.
Speaker 1: It's just like when some people having a large sum
Speaker 1: of money and all of a sudden they don't have
Speaker 1: that no more, O Joe.
Speaker 3: They don't know how to behave m H like I
Speaker 3: had all this money.
Speaker 2: I've had millions, hundreds of millions, billions, and now I
Speaker 2: just got you a billionaire, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: all you got is two hundred million dollars man, two
Speaker 2: hundred million me and you two undred be like, sign
Speaker 2: me up. But not where you've had billions. That's the
Speaker 2: whole different ball game. Check this out of Ojo during
Speaker 2: the Maths karaoke cam. During the time out of fan
Speaker 2: mouth Fire Niko, they quickly booted him from the arena.
Speaker 2: This was the first time of fans had been shown
Speaker 2: on video since the trade. Fans booed as the guy
Speaker 2: was escorted out of the out of the arena. Is
Speaker 2: that the right way to handle this?
Speaker 1: Oh man? Listen?
Speaker 5: I no, wait wait, is it the right way to
Speaker 5: handle it for who the fan? Or then booting them out?
Speaker 5: They booted him out? Is that the right way for
Speaker 5: the maverage to handle it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely not. Listen.
Speaker 5: Fans come to a game, they able to express themselves
Speaker 5: based on decisions.
Speaker 2: That have been made.
Speaker 1: You know, I think curse.
Speaker 2: He didn't yell for fantasy. He didn't he didn't yell
Speaker 2: of scenities. It wasn't you know, it wasn't like you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, don't Joe. It wasn't anything like
Speaker 2: no racial All he said was yeah, right, that shouldn't
Speaker 2: get you kicked out of the arena. It shouldn't get
Speaker 2: you kicked out. But you're that's enjoy a game.
Speaker 3: You're there.
Speaker 1: You're there to enjoy a game. You're there to to
Speaker 1: have Nio Harris, I keep saying that. I keep saying college.
Speaker 2: Really, Nico Harrison, I'm sorry, chat Nico Harrison.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Listen, there's a no tolerance policy.
Speaker 5: I think fans need to under understand and respect not
Speaker 5: only the players, but but other other authority as well.
Speaker 1: You know, go there if if you if you're not
Speaker 1: pleased with them.
Speaker 5: We understand your displeasure with certain individuals based on decisions
Speaker 5: that they made.
Speaker 1: You just it's certain things you can't do.
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, when you get pulled over by
Speaker 5: the cop and just because you know the law, you
Speaker 5: want to challenge authority, or you want to curse, or
Speaker 5: you want to prove you know, you know, you know
Speaker 5: you think. Yet listen, you upset, you buddy, Yeah, you upset?
Speaker 5: But would happen and would you know Luca Luca leaving
Speaker 5: go to the game.
Speaker 1: Enjoy it. You see him give them a little quick boot,
Speaker 1: you know, boom, going by your binness. Enjoy the game.
Speaker 2: But I think when you when you handle it this way, now,
Speaker 2: you invite more people.
Speaker 3: Just hold on. All I said was fired, Nico Harrison.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's an offense that should get me
Speaker 2: thrown out of the game. If I if I'm yelling obscenities,
Speaker 2: I'm yelling racial stuff. If it is profane, I get it.
Speaker 2: But that's all he said was fired, Nico Harrison. That's
Speaker 2: not that's not an ejectable offense. Now they have they
Speaker 2: taken it. They've had to add extra security to this
Speaker 2: man to and from watching his own because of the threats.
Speaker 3: That's too far. That's taking it too far.
Speaker 2: I get it you're upset, but to put threats on
Speaker 2: the man's life and his family's life, that's going too far.
Speaker 3: Sorry.
Speaker 2: I get I get the precaution that the Mavericks are taking,
Speaker 2: but I can't get down with that because all he
Speaker 2: said was fired, Nico Harrison. And the man that is
Speaker 2: talked from your read I don't know that on Joe.
Speaker 1: You know what well cracking you window it always starts small.
Speaker 5: If you don't fix it, if you're gonna say the
Speaker 5: president early, that crack, it gets bigger and bigger over time.
Speaker 5: So now you're talking about he just said fire Nico,
Speaker 5: and that's all he said. You know that small crack
Speaker 5: will continue to get bigger and bigger because other people
Speaker 5: are gonna see that, right, so they're doing it.
Speaker 1: They jumping the gun.
Speaker 5: You know, we need to get on top of this
Speaker 5: now before the small crack eventually turns a little bit
Speaker 5: bigger and it gets.
Speaker 1: Out of control.
Speaker 2: We hey, once you go there, like, look, we asked guy,
Speaker 2: we asked everybody to be respectful, blah blah blah. And
Speaker 2: once he read yeah, once he yelled at the first
Speaker 2: You know, Miles, that the first time. Just fan offen.
Speaker 2: You remember how they used to show it every time
Speaker 2: when streakers would run on the field. A guy, women
Speaker 2: would left their shirt and they were just steal on it.
Speaker 2: Now they just hey, they just cut away. We're not
Speaker 2: gonna give you no TV time. We're now gonna let
Speaker 2: you have your little five seconds, your fifteen seconds of fame.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna move on. I think for me, I
Speaker 1: think that would have been the proper way to handle it.
Speaker 1: But hey, the Maverige did what they did. I don't
Speaker 1: agree with it.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, they just ejected a team
Speaker 2: Morant John's Dead out of the game because he said
Speaker 2: something to an official.
Speaker 3: I guess I.
Speaker 2: Could be wrong, and I think i'm prayer phrase. I
Speaker 2: think said y'all on the take or something like that.
Speaker 2: I'll have to be careful, you know, you say stuff
Speaker 2: like that to the officials. That's a very very touchy subject,
Speaker 2: especially when gambling is involved. But this this is not
Speaker 2: even close for me, Chad. Let me know what you
Speaker 2: guys think as an ejectionable offense. Kevin Uran is still
Speaker 2: with the Phoenix Suns and ready to get back on
Speaker 2: the court after last week's event for trade deadline full
Speaker 2: of speculation. It's just part of the business. Everybody's bought
Speaker 2: and sold in this league. Anybody came up for option,
Speaker 2: so I understand. It's just about getting back on the
Speaker 2: court and trying to go out there and play the game.
Speaker 3: That I love. It's part of the business.
Speaker 2: Though, We've all got to understand that the Sons ended
Speaker 2: up having a relatively quiet trade deadline, dealing only disgruntel center.
Speaker 2: You sept Nurkic to the Hornets, but keeping the rest
Speaker 2: of the court intact. The team's big three, the rat
Speaker 2: Up and Bradley Bill is still together and the franchise
Speaker 2: tries to gain traction in the standing O Joe, you agree, disagree?
Speaker 3: Like what Katie said?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like what Katie said.
Speaker 5: Obviously he feels that every everyone, everyone is expendable at
Speaker 5: this point. And I think I don't think Katie would
Speaker 5: have said anything like that, and he hadn't seen the
Speaker 5: deal that happened.
Speaker 1: With with with Luca.
Speaker 5: I don't think it's but even the utter those type
Speaker 5: of words, but now seeing that they were able to
Speaker 5: get rid of Luca, despite how good he was, I
Speaker 5: think that's why he said what he said. Anytime anytime
Speaker 5: Katie was on the move, it's because he wanted it.
Speaker 1: Correct, It's because he wanted it.
Speaker 5: You know, he said, you know, he was displeased with
Speaker 5: the issue or with the with the with the turmoil
Speaker 5: and chaos that was going on around him.
Speaker 1: You know what I want to make a move.
Speaker 5: Him gonna move was whether it was the Warriors, whether
Speaker 5: it was God damn it, whether it was.
Speaker 2: He was a fridge of ok O Joe. So he's like,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't I want to move on? Well
Speaker 2: within it, well within his right. As you mentioned, he
Speaker 2: was there, he wasn't happy. A part of that for me,
Speaker 2: A part of it. Uh. The Warriors was new addition Johnny,
Speaker 2: Bobby Rick and Mike. They were the original Johnny Gill.
Speaker 2: Could I say them all?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: But he didn't grow up in Rosbury, Boston, so he
Speaker 2: was never going to be accepted like those like Trey
Speaker 2: Clay and Steph Steph Clay and Drakemond. We know what
Speaker 2: kd W is a seven foot walking bucket. Yes, sir,
Speaker 2: mid range can get to the shoot the three. You
Speaker 2: follow him ninety percent of his shot. You can play
Speaker 2: with his bag to the basket. We've never seen a
Speaker 2: guy seven foots tall head of the ball and be
Speaker 2: able to do what he does.
Speaker 3: But he's like, you know what, I'm gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he goes, he goes to Brooklyn and seems like, man,
Speaker 2: I'm gone. So once you lead, is easier for you
Speaker 2: to do it again? Oh Joe, It's just like somebody
Speaker 2: get divorced. A lot of time when people get divorced,
Speaker 2: you see a person with multiple divorces because.
Speaker 1: Once you leave a relationship, it gets a lot easier
Speaker 1: to lead the next.
Speaker 3: Relationship, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's another thing. And now I'm gonna take it
Speaker 1: to sports.
Speaker 5: Once you see someone get knocked out the first time,
Speaker 5: you know how much easy it is. And to get
Speaker 5: knocked good after first, Yes, subconsciously it's already there.
Speaker 3: Yep, he got a little lot faster. Huh. So KD
Speaker 3: just wants to play basketball.
Speaker 2: That's what he is. He's a professional basketball player. He
Speaker 2: works on his craft extremely hard. You don't get this.
Speaker 2: You don't play as long as he's played, be as
Speaker 2: good as he is without working on his craft. All
Speaker 2: that other stuff. He let Rich Climban do what he does,
Speaker 2: had his business stuff. KD just wants to focus on
Speaker 2: basketball on the court, and so he understands the business
Speaker 2: of the game, just like he was a business He
Speaker 2: was a free agent. He went the Golden State. He
Speaker 2: became a free agent again. He went to Brooklyn. He's like,
Speaker 2: you know what, the situation is getting out of hand.
Speaker 2: I don't think we can win here. I want to
Speaker 2: go somewhere else. But he handled it in such a
Speaker 2: way he didn't make a whole lot of noise. He
Speaker 2: didn't call, you know, mispracticed or be laid or stomp
Speaker 2: out the shoot a ram, shoot a round.
Speaker 3: His representatives say, look, I would like to be moved.
Speaker 2: Get what you cared for me? And this you know this,
Speaker 2: They did a ma solid. He wanted to go to Phoenix.
Speaker 2: They put him in Phoenix. But see that's because of
Speaker 2: the person, the man, the player that he is. He's
Speaker 2: been very respectful, how he handled it. They accommodated it right.
Speaker 2: A lot of times like where you want to go, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna see you do the opposite place you want
Speaker 2: to go to?
Speaker 3: Heaven?
Speaker 1: Hell it is Yeah.
Speaker 2: Bucks general manager John Horse said trading franchise cornerstone Chris
Speaker 2: Middleton after twelve season in Milwaukee was the hardest transaction
Speaker 2: he's made as an executive, but did so to maximize
Speaker 2: the window for a championship. It's still the awesome responsibility
Speaker 2: to try to take this franchise and maximize them the
Speaker 2: window that we have now as best we can what
Speaker 2: we think gives us the best chance to win and
Speaker 2: figure out how.
Speaker 3: To continue winning going forward.
Speaker 2: There's a very narrow set of opportunities that we felt
Speaker 2: that we could do that, and this is one of them.
Speaker 2: Milwaukee traded Middleton and rookie guard A J. Johnson and
Speaker 2: it pickswalk to Washington in exchange for Kyle Kuzma, Patrick
Speaker 2: Baldwin Junior and a second round pick before last week's
Speaker 2: trade deadline. The Bucks also acquired center Jericho Sims for
Speaker 2: the New York Knicks as part of the deal. Ocho,
Speaker 2: the executive, said it was the hardest decision, one of
Speaker 2: the hardest decisions he's had to make.
Speaker 1: I heard that. I heard that before too. Huh.
Speaker 5: Then we hear that from someone who's who's who sits
Speaker 5: who sits to one of the higher seats.
Speaker 3: For the Giants.
Speaker 5: Joe Cano was one of the hardest things for him
Speaker 5: to do, but they still did it. I'm not sure
Speaker 5: in that case it was for the betterment of the team.
Speaker 5: Do you think this situation and letting Chris Midleton go
Speaker 5: was from the betterment of the team in the future
Speaker 5: and giving them their best chance at a trophy or
Speaker 5: competing for one.
Speaker 2: I think the injury that uh Christmas had the knee injury,
Speaker 2: they didn't think that.
Speaker 3: It comes down to Joe. Do I believe that I
Speaker 3: can count on you long term moving forward? Out shame.
Speaker 3: So I make a decision.
Speaker 2: When somebody tells you that you know your passion will
Speaker 2: tell you this is gonna hurt what I got. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna tell your ass up, but it's gonna hurt.
Speaker 3: Me more than hurt you. We don't do it.
Speaker 1: If I don't want you to be hurt. And I
Speaker 1: damn sure don't want better be a hurt.
Speaker 3: What kind of job is that?
Speaker 1: Hey boy, my grandma used to get catch me with
Speaker 1: that boy.
Speaker 5: And junior high, you know, in my early day in
Speaker 5: high school and getting the trial.
Speaker 1: Oh, this is gonna hurt me more than hurt you.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't want you, yeah, hurt.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to hurt.
Speaker 3: I definitely don't want to hurt y'all mess me.
Speaker 2: With that fool and that's what that's what he exists.
Speaker 2: Oh you know this, this hurts me bad. Stop Uh
Speaker 2: now you know I obviously if it was a situation
Speaker 2: where and that's what if you go back and look
Speaker 2: at it, that's what made coach Belichick so good, and
Speaker 2: that's what really irked him. And that's what irked Tom
Speaker 2: because Coach Belichick realized, I'm gonna have to make a
Speaker 2: very tough decision one day. The closer I get to
Speaker 2: a player, the harder it is for me to do
Speaker 2: my job. This is why in the military they I
Speaker 2: don't know if they still have it, but higher ups
Speaker 2: messing with lord subordinates because they cloud your judgment because
Speaker 2: now I don't want to put you in harm's way
Speaker 2: because I feel.
Speaker 1: Some type of well bout you, yes, sir.
Speaker 3: So that's why they don't like that.
Speaker 2: They You know, if you are higher up, you can't
Speaker 2: mess with a subordinate because you're in a position of
Speaker 2: authority and you are over that pointing. So when you
Speaker 2: got to send somebody out to go do battle, you
Speaker 2: got to send them out the battle. What is that
Speaker 2: your little boo thing or that's your woo You think
Speaker 2: here with me, let me get let me get a
Speaker 2: little desk job.
Speaker 3: Yay, I don't.
Speaker 1: If you're going to get hurt, you stay right over
Speaker 1: here with me, right over here.
Speaker 3: That is how it works.
Speaker 2: And so when you're dealing with and so that's why
Speaker 2: you have to keep a motion out of it. That's
Speaker 2: why you can't can't get too close because the closer
Speaker 2: you are to an individual, the hard it is is
Speaker 2: it is for you to part with said INDIVI, and
Speaker 2: so you know, and maybe maybe maybe it is I
Speaker 2: behave I don't. I don't know. I've never been in
Speaker 2: a situation where I had to make it a very
Speaker 2: very tough decision where you've been with someone for an
Speaker 2: extended period of time and you won together, You've accomplished
Speaker 2: so much together, excuse me, and it comes to a
Speaker 2: point in time where you have to let sit in
Speaker 2: the you will go. I'm sure that's not an easy
Speaker 2: thing to do. But like you said, at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, oh Joe, no matter what I think
Speaker 2: of an individual, I still have an obligation to be
Speaker 2: owner that pays my salary to the fan base to
Speaker 2: put the best product on the floor in order to
Speaker 2: win a championship.
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, I understand it. I don't know if that's
Speaker 5: the best product on the floor to achieve the end goal,
Speaker 5: but so be it, O Joe.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs may be forced to release Travis Kelcey this
Speaker 2: offseason due to an almost twenty million dollar cap here.
Speaker 2: Vince would be the highest cap here for a tight
Speaker 2: end in the entire league. Given that Kelsey at times
Speaker 2: struggle this year to get open and to create separation, Ojoe,
Speaker 2: Is this the end of Travis Kelcey, who I believe
Speaker 2: is the go tight end and this relation ship with
Speaker 2: the Chiefs?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, Absolutely not.
Speaker 5: Obviously you know Pator Mahomes, you know Kelsey and all
Speaker 5: other players that are part of that team that are
Speaker 5: going to be there next year and not those that
Speaker 5: are on a one year deal. Travis Kelsey is the
Speaker 5: team player. He's a team player, and he's making so
Speaker 5: much money off the field, he's not going to have
Speaker 5: a problem taking a pay cut. He's not gonna have
Speaker 5: a problem doing that because he's gonna make up for
Speaker 5: whatever he whatever he doesn't get off the.
Speaker 1: Field because he has so much going on.
Speaker 5: Listen, this is the same situation with Tom Brady, who
Speaker 5: with Tom Brady Dayton when he was taking pay cuts
Speaker 5: in the winging to make sure they kept the team
Speaker 5: around him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that he ain't married to Taylor yet, he
Speaker 2: might have going and proposed then if you want.
Speaker 1: That truck, he trust me? He good, trust me that
Speaker 1: he's dating a billionaire.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: Up.
Speaker 1: I think he had no worries.
Speaker 5: He has so he has so many endeavors going on
Speaker 5: off the field, he got no I'm a team player.
Speaker 5: I'm a team player to come back, to keep the
Speaker 5: band together, to be able to get some.
Speaker 1: Eat, some other key off season acquisitions.
Speaker 5: I have no problem doing that and coming back and
Speaker 5: make and giving this thing another go.
Speaker 1: He can do that, so he not one that that's
Speaker 1: hurting for, So he'll be fine.
Speaker 2: I can see him going to Hollywood. He has that look,
Speaker 2: he has that swag. I can see him parlaying what
Speaker 2: he's been able to do in football on the field
Speaker 2: and parlaying that off the field.
Speaker 1: And he has that.
Speaker 3: The question is, O Joe.
Speaker 2: As you get older and you know Travis is flying
Speaker 2: all over the place he wants to be with the
Speaker 2: lady of love in his life, He's going to have
Speaker 2: to make a decision.
Speaker 1: How important is football to it.
Speaker 5: You can't, you can't. You can't go out like this,
Speaker 5: Just can't. This can't be the last taste. This can't
Speaker 5: be the last taste him out. Hell, it might be
Speaker 5: getting worse.
Speaker 1: Not a game, not a game like this, not like that,
Speaker 1: Oh Joe.
Speaker 3: The thing is about sports.
Speaker 2: It's funny how sports work, because everybody like you can't
Speaker 2: go out like that and then you come back there
Speaker 2: it's worse. This last time you're like, well, I can't
Speaker 2: go out back and it just can't get worth the work.
Speaker 3: There's gonna guarantee.
Speaker 2: It's not a situation where you get like a John Elway,
Speaker 2: I win a championship, super Bowl, MVP. I'm done for
Speaker 2: Michael straighthand they when they take down the Giants, I mean,
Speaker 2: excuse the Giants take down the Patriots too shy the
Speaker 2: bus the super Bowl is in Detroit. He's from Detroit.
Speaker 2: The bus stops here. So it's not always like that.
Speaker 2: We don't always get that Hollywood ending, although we might
Speaker 2: want that Hollywood ending. The question is is that I
Speaker 2: think he's gonna have to sit down and ask himself
Speaker 2: how much more do I want to give?
Speaker 3: What do I have?
Speaker 2: Because let me ask you a question, O Joe, he
Speaker 2: comes back, what can he do that's going to change
Speaker 2: the perception of what you think of Travis Kelsey. I mean, personally,
Speaker 2: I think he's to go tighty Oh yeah. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure what what's going on to change.
Speaker 5: I just know when I understand the chemistry and continuity
Speaker 5: that him and Patrick Mahomes have, Patrick mahons having that
Speaker 5: security blanket obviously when they bolster and hell and get
Speaker 5: that that officer line together. I think things will be
Speaker 5: a little bit more easy for him. The chemistry and
Speaker 5: the continuity ows between the crew. Noah Gray zber Worthy's
Speaker 5: gonna be back.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about Hollywood.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure about Hollywood Brown and DeAndre Hopkins, but
Speaker 5: whatever other pieces they bring into that table, and I
Speaker 5: know that game of bad taste in everyone's mouth, including
Speaker 5: Travis Kelsey, and I definitely believe he's not gonna want
Speaker 5: to go out like that. I believe it's one thing
Speaker 5: to lose, but but Bill to to a doubles, that's
Speaker 5: not what they want.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonnack. He gonna have to take a pay cut.
Speaker 2: He gonna have to take.
Speaker 1: I don't think he have a problem with that. He
Speaker 1: ain't have no problem doing that. He ain't want to
Speaker 1: problem that because we say that because it's not our money.
Speaker 5: I mean, listen and just understanding how much he has
Speaker 5: going on, understanding the individual that he listen if this
Speaker 5: comes out, knowing I mean just Taylor Swift looked like
Speaker 5: the type of woman anyway, Oh baby, they want you
Speaker 5: to take a pic cut, so from.
Speaker 1: Twenty million to ten, you know what he go to ten.
Speaker 1: They were gonna take from you.
Speaker 5: She looked like that typees to cut your cut your
Speaker 5: ten million dollars check right there on the spot.
Speaker 1: That's just me.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: You know they say God love your God loves the
Speaker 1: cheer forgiver.
Speaker 3: Yeah. She fans go after C. J.
Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson's mother's restaurant in Florida after his comments on
Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey's as wait what whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa? Hey,
Speaker 2: I guess I guess his mom owns a restaurant in Florida.
Speaker 2: He said something, I guess the comments on Travis Kelsey's ex.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh yeah, that.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Look, I don't know.
Speaker 2: You gotta be careful, Joe when you're when somebody you
Speaker 2: know has a business. Right now, they flooded with negative reviews.
Speaker 2: Oh yep, and things of that nature all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: that you know, stuff like that. So just you know,
Speaker 2: I guess he said that he should have stayed with that.
Speaker 2: Uh that thick.
Speaker 1: Oh, speaking of miss Travis Kelsey, you understand that.
Speaker 3: That was a long time ago. She's moved on.
Speaker 2: Well, clearly she's not, because she was on the field
Speaker 2: last night with Eagles with with with confetti.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: But trail, but trail travel has been that, that's been
Speaker 2: going a long time. I've never been petty like that, ocho.
Speaker 2: So whatever happens, I moved on.
Speaker 4: You move on.
Speaker 3: We moved on.
Speaker 1: I ain't got no bad I ain't got nothing bad
Speaker 1: to say about you.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he hadn't said nothing at all, nothing at all.
Speaker 5: What is there to say, though, there's think to say.
Speaker 5: Do you understand that there's nothing nothing wrong with Nicole?
Speaker 5: You know, beautiful young lady. Yes, but making somebody very happy,
Speaker 5: somebody hold hopeful. Hopefully she is, but she has to
Speaker 5: understand the situation that Travis Kelsey is in. Now, this
Speaker 5: is with this is uh a whole different ball game.
Speaker 5: It's about Taylor Swift, but it is this is this
Speaker 5: is different. You know, it's going forward for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 1: You know it's it's.
Speaker 2: No man.
Speaker 1: Look, look, he gave up this for that role. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe you wouldn't have.
Speaker 5: Who wouldn't have? We based everything off of looks in aesthetic. Man,
Speaker 5: we're talking about we do she got We're talking about
Speaker 5: a billy man stopped playing with me.
Speaker 2: Hey, you bring it to the choir. Now turn around
Speaker 2: to get into the congregation. I'll be the choir by
Speaker 2: the congregation. Better stop playing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, we I'm thinking long term, long term Yeah,
Speaker 5: assets versus liabilities.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the individual's a liability. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I understand. I mean, I know what this is bringing
Speaker 1: to the table.
Speaker 2: I know what that's bringing to the table. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: I said, for me, I just like I said, I
Speaker 2: just prefer to just like move on in a different direction.
Speaker 2: I don't really talk about my exits with and you know,
Speaker 2: somebody's like, really, I don't really care to talk about that.
Speaker 3: Uh, that ran its course. I'm over here now.
Speaker 2: I don't really because you know, there's nothing good that
Speaker 2: can that can come out of talking hopefully my exs.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't, I don't. I don't beat
Speaker 1: my exit up. I don't say this.
Speaker 3: We moved on. We had a great time. It was
Speaker 3: a great two.
Speaker 2: Year, one year, five months, eight years, ten, you whatever
Speaker 2: the case may be, right, it ran its course. That's
Speaker 2: and you know you just move on. Yeah, but as y'all,
Speaker 2: a y'all a for what do you call him? Tell
Speaker 2: me what I should do? Because you don't know I'm happy.
Speaker 2: It's not like if because if if we were both happy,
Speaker 2: we would both still be in this situation.
Speaker 1: M That's the way I look at it. But hey
Speaker 1: to each of all
Speaker 2: The volume