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Speaker 1: Is this just odds makers working some voodoo to make money? No, Richie,

427
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Speaker 1: I totally see how Alabama's favored, and I'm going to

428
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Speaker 1: show you what our number is on the game tonight.

429
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Speaker 1: I totally see how they're favored. I want you to

430
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Speaker 1: take yourself back, Richie, to Friday. What would you have

431
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 1: thought about this game? You haven't seen the Tennessee Georgia game.

432
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 1: You haven't seen Ole miss Alabama. What would you have

433
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 1: thought about it? What do you think about Stetson Bennett?

434
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Speaker 1: What do you think about Alabama as a team. They

435
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: just beat A and M pretty soundly. What do you

436
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,959
Speaker 1: think about the offense? What do you think about it?

437
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: You probably think Alabama is solidly above a touchdown favorite.

438
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 1: You would lean comfortably Alabama. All that's changed is eight

439
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: total quarters of football. Now, while your opinion may have

440
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 1: radically shifted, I can tell you no odds maker on

441
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,919
Speaker 1: God's Green Earth, unless quarterbacks have been injured. No odds

442
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 1: maker worth his or her AsSalt is shifting an opinion

443
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Speaker 1: or a point spread on a game over seven points

444
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: over the especially on high profile teams, over the course

445
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 1: of one outcome. Just not happening. That's just not the

446
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 1: way those folks operate. There's a lot of overreaction right

447
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 1: now in the mind of an odds maker to what

448
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: Alabama just had happened to them. An odds maker looks

449
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Speaker 1: at Ole Miss and Lane Kiffin and they say they'd

450
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Speaker 1: make a lot of people look foolish. It was also

451
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: possibly a look ahead spot for Alabama. This is not

452
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Speaker 1: me talking. I'm not making excuses. I'm telling you what

453
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Speaker 1: an odds maker would think. An odds maker also looks

454
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Speaker 1: at these rosters and they see that they're very comparable.

455
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Speaker 1: They'd come right here to twenty four to seven sports

456
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Speaker 1: dot Com and look at that team talent. But then

457
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,959
Speaker 1: what they do is they see comparable talent. Then they

458
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Speaker 1: look at offense and they value it, and they value

459
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Speaker 1: the quarterback position, and then see what Alabama is able

460
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Speaker 1: to do, and it matters a whole lot the quarterback

461
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: production there, the wide receiver production. You talk about balance

462
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Speaker 1: with Georgia, I don't believe george is the most balanced

463
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Speaker 1: offense and the SEC. I think Alabama's far more balanced

464
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Speaker 1: than they are. But remember how I define balance. It's

465
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Speaker 1: not found on a stat sheet. It is can you

466
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Speaker 1: convince your opponent you're willing to run the ball or

467
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: pass the ball on any down. That's it. That's the

468
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 1: whole purpose behind balance. It doesn't really matter what my

469
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: numbers say. If I'm the OC over here and you're

470
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: across the field for me, and you're the defensive coordinator,

471
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Speaker 1: and you believe when it's third and four that I'm

472
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Speaker 1: capable of doing anything. When you on second and six

473
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: look across and you can't tell if I'm a run

474
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: it or pass it, I have achieved balance. That's it.

475
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: That's Alabama. That's not Georgia. They are very very noticeable

476
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: tendencies and trends for Georgia offensively right now. And that's

477
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: not a nod. They're doing exactly what they should do.

478
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: They are playing complimentary football. It's what they're doing. But

479
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 1: I think Alabama's favored for a reason. I think they

480
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: should be favored. I think maybe, Richie, you've gotten a

481
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: little bit too far down. I think maybe it's like

482
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Speaker 1: one of those carnival rides that I would never get

483
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,479
Speaker 1: on in a million years, because I've watched a carnival

484
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: get set up before. In South Commons parking lot in Columbus,

485
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 1: Georgia not the most seamless operation in the world. Let's

486
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: just say that one of those carnival rides where it's

487
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: like this, this this big container and it takes the

488
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: people all the way to the left and all the

489
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: way to the right. You gotta you gotta keep things

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Speaker 1: between the lines, Richie. Gotta keep the faith. That's what

491
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm telling you to do. Keep the faith. It won't

492
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: be that bad. I don't think Alabama's gonna get run

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Speaker 1: out of their building Saturday. I don't think they're running

494
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Speaker 1: Georgia out of their building. I think it's the best

495
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: offense in America going against the best defense in America.

496
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Speaker 1: And boy, a few months ago, didn't know if we

497
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Speaker 1: were going to get football, period, and now this is

498
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Speaker 1: what we get on Saturday. Coach is up next, Josh,

499
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: could you do a video about how Texas A and

500
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: M could make the playoff? Hey, what a question. Some

501
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: of you were laughing. I see some of you laughing.

502
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give you time. I'm gonna give you.

503
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 1: I give you five seconds. Take the next five seconds,

504
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 1: do whatever you want to within reason, of course. I

505
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: gave you five seconds. Some of you still cackling. If

506
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: not just giggling, but let me read something to you.

507
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: Let me see if this changes your mind. A M's

508
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: two and one right now. They lost to Alabama. Two

509
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: weeks ago, they beat Florida. They're two and one. Those

510
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: are the two toughest to PU on their entire schedule.

511
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: An M schedule the rest of the way. Follow me, friends,

512
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: tell me where there'll be an underdog. At Mississippi State,

513
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 1: we know they're a seven point favorite bye week. I

514
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: like their odds there at Arkansas favorite. They got Arkansas

515
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Speaker 1: at home favorite. They go to South Carolina should be

516
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: a favorite. They go to Tennessee. I would imagine an

517
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: M will be a short favorite there either way. Competitive

518
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: ball game, obviously, they've got Ole mess at home, should

519
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: be favored. They've got LSU at home. As of right now,

520
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: they'd be favored. And then they go to Auburn to

521
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Speaker 1: end the year. Right now, I'd lean Texas A and

522
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: M in that game. The point is there is a

523
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Speaker 1: distinct possibility this team is favored in every game the

524
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: rest of the way. Point spreads do not determine who

525
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: wins a game, and I understand that, but it at

526
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: the very least paints the picture that this is manageable.

527
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: Now they keep losing receivers and that's not ideal, but

528
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: it's manageable. And I think you saw against Florida what

529
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: I I've tried to tell people, but I understand you

530
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: need to see it to believe it. They are good.

531
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Speaker 1: This is not a bad team. Alabama embarrassed them. But

532
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: we've talked about the freeze point on Late Cack Live

533
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: and how A and M just doesn't meet it. They

534
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: cannot be competitive with Alabama. Most teams can't. But there's

535
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: a next tier right below Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Georgia.

536
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: And if you can hang out there and you can

537
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: go nine and one, you're right in the playoff conversation.

538
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: Don't think for a second they wouldn't be they'd be

539
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: right there. They may not go to Atlanta because you

540
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: would assume Alabama would go to Atlanta. But if Alabama

541
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: goes to Atlanta and they win the SEC, and A

542
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 1: and M is nine and one and their only loss

543
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: was to the SEC champion in this year where you

544
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 1: play ten conference games, absolutely they get serious consideration. Having

545
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: said that they could lose Saturday, like they could lose

546
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: three more games. This is still a very unpredictable team.

547
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: I just think they're capable, but unpredictable. All right, Jake

548
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: asked me who would you go to for gambling advice?

549
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: And Jake is talking about picks, so he gave me

550
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: a long question. I just said, in a synopsis gambling advice, Jake,

551
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: here's my advice for you. Don't bet. That's my first

552
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: piece of advice. Most of you're gonna ignore that. So

553
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: if you're gonna bet, my second piece of advice is

554
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: if you're gonna spend money on something by information, by

555
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: the right information. I've got an acquaintance. Let me say,

556
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: who is not paying me a dime to say this, unfortunately,

557
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: but runs a website, college football Unlimited dot com. I

558
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: think they do a phenomenal job. I have told him

559
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: repeatedly they should be charging more than what they do.

560
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: I can't remember what it is anyway, it's not much.

561
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: And what you get is you don't get just gobs

562
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: and gobs and gobs of data thrown your way. It's

563
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: a really good system they've set up there, and all

564
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: it does is it just it provides a final score

565
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: projection for you. It also correlates that with what the

566
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: current points spread on the game is and gives you

567
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: a cover probability per game. That is information. Okay, that's

568
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: not making your picks for you. That is giving you

569
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: a projected final score, a nice color code. It looks

570
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: really pretty, and it lets you make your decision. That's

571
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: what I advise you to do. Use the brain God

572
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: gave you, learn how to properly harness information and learn

573
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 1: discipline and money management, and then go about it that way.

574
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: Don't just listen to some taut who comes on a

575
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Speaker 1: radio show Thursday and promises you the world, and then

576
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: ask yourself, wait, wait a second, how come I've never

577
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: heard of this guy before. If he's so elite, Oh well,

578
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: I'll buy it anyway. He convinces me. Those are car salesmen,

579
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: That's essentially what those are. Don't don't fall for that.

580
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: If you're gonna pay for anything, pay for information College

581
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: football onlimited dot com, though I would. I'd head over there. Okay,

582
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: if you're going to go somewhere for information, I'd head

583
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: over there. We're lucky enough here to have memberships to

584
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: profootballfocus dot com. I love the resources they have there,

585
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: Just as much information as you can get your hands

586
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: on understand how to properly utilize it. I'll also tell

587
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: you this, when those lines come out on Sunday afternoon,

588
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: right off the bat, I'm knocking four out of five

589
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: of them off the table. I'm looking at our numbers,

590
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: my internal numbers juxtapost to the Vegas line, and right

591
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: off the bat, I eliminate eighty percent of games. The

592
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: lines are so tight that I know I'm not going

593
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: to find any value there. They're done. I don't look

594
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: at them again the rest of the week. I've narrowed

595
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: it down to somewhere between eight and fifteen games fifteen

596
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: on the high end, the very high end per week,

597
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: and then I'll continue to shave those down as we

598
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: go through the week. And by the week, I mean

599
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: Monday or Tuesday, and eventually i'll be working with about

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00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: seven to ten games by Thursday that I'm going to

601
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: whittle down to five or six, and that sides and totals.

602
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: I may play some live stuff, but don't be betting

603
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: that entire board. Understand how you identify value and how

604
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: tight lines are and how hard it is to win

605
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: at this stuff. If you're out there betting twenty five

606
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: games on a Saturday. You're just not doing it right.

607
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: So I will say this, I think that we have

608
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: kind of perfected the art of how to talk about

609
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: gambling on Late Kick, because what I learned a long

610
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: time ago is some of you obviously bet on this stuff,

611
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to do a gambling show now

612
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: incorporate that element, and I give you my five best

613
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: bets of the week. We're sitting at right at sixty

614
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: percent against the number right now. If I could freeze

615
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: myself there for the rest of eternity, I'd never need

616
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: to work again. So we love where we are right now.

617
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: We normally do very well. I've done better than fifty

618
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: four percent against the number of the last six years running,

619
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Speaker 1: all documented. I give him out every week on the show,

620
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: and the four out of the last five years we've

621
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: been above fifty six percent. And that's really good territory

622
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: to be in. Bud Elliott does a lot of really

623
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: good stuff here too, puts out a column every week

624
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: Buds bets. I take a look at that. Bud does

625
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: very well for himself too on this stuff, and so

626
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: a lot of good gambling talk in the twenty four

627
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Speaker 1: to seven slack room during the week. But as for

628
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: the way we covered on Late Cake, I learned a

629
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: long time ago not everyone who's fascinated in listening to

630
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: point spread and wagering related content bets. Some of you

631
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: don't bet a penny on this stuff, and you're probably

632
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: all the wiser for it, and probably a lot wealthier

633
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: for it, but you're still fascinated at the inner workings

634
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: of the odds making industry. We were fascinated at kind

635
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: of trying to project what you think the line's going

636
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: to be, and then you look at what the line is,

637
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: and I understand that. I understand your fascination with it.

638
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: So I don't run a tout service over here, any

639
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Speaker 1: kind of strict gambling show. I try and sprinkle in

640
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Speaker 1: enough to where it appeals to the mass audience, so

641
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Speaker 1: that someone who lives in Des Moines, Iowa, who never bets,

642
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Speaker 1: dis appeals to you, and someone who lives down in Lakeland, Florida,

643
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 1: who bets heavily, it appeals to you too. And I

644
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Speaker 1: think we do a pretty good job on that. I

645
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Speaker 1: am willing to pat ourselves on the back there because

646
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Speaker 1: I don't ever hear criticism for the way we talk

647
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Speaker 1: about betting many other things, yes, but not betting. All right,

648
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Speaker 1: let's let's go to Shane. Shane had two really good

649
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Speaker 1: questions all the way from Ireland, by the way, which

650
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Speaker 1: means I should have bumped him right up to the

651
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Speaker 1: top because international questions are just the best we had.

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Speaker 1: We had some listeners in Guam the other day that

653
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Speaker 1: was great to see. So he's talking about taking games overseas,

654
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Speaker 1: and he's talking about what Notre Dame is going to be,

655
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Speaker 1: and we got a lot left to get to and

656
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Speaker 1: not a lot of time to do it. So we'll

657
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Speaker 1: toss it to the break, we'll come right back and

658
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Speaker 1: we'll answer these. So Shane says, all the way from Ireland,

659
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Speaker 1: do you ever see SEC powerhouses participating in overseas games

660
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Speaker 1: like the NFL? We here in Ireland were supposed to

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Speaker 1: have Notre Dame in Navy and Nebraska and Illinois next year,

662
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Speaker 1: with three more games lined up for twenty two, twenty

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Speaker 1: three and twenty four. I'd love to see Alabama, Tennessee

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Speaker 1: and Georgia live here. What do you think, Shane? I

665
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Speaker 1: would say no, never say never, but I would say

666
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Speaker 1: no only because the culture in the SEC. Anytime they

667
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Speaker 1: schedule a neutral site game has always been with recruiting

668
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Speaker 1: in mind. That's why it's been Atlanta, Dallas. Those are

669
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Speaker 1: big recruiting hubs. Now Notre Dame is a little bit

670
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Speaker 1: different with the way they try and get around. They

671
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Speaker 1: go to Boston, I mean, they're not recruiting Boston heavily,

672
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Speaker 1: and they they'll play game in Chicago, and so they'll

673
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Speaker 1: do the overseas stuff too. I don't think that I

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Speaker 1: would see the SEC going down that road. I could

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Speaker 1: be wrong there. I don't see that happening. As for

676
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Speaker 1: a second question, he asked about Notre Dame, do you

677
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Speaker 1: ever see them becoming a perennial powerhouse again? If so,

678
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Speaker 1: how well, Yeah, I think it's possible. I think it's

679
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Speaker 1: very possible. I don't think they're that far away, Shane.

680
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Speaker 1: There are a lot of elements of this team that

681
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: are a lot closer to being elite than anyone realizes.

682
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Speaker 1: The reason people don't realize it is because they don't

683
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Speaker 1: have what Clemson has had, Alabama has had, Ohio State has,

684
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma has had certain elements of this, and that's elite

685
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Speaker 1: quarterback play, and so Notre Dame has not had that.

686
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Speaker 1: That is the next step whether it's Tyler Buttoner or

687
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Speaker 1: someone else. That's the next step they have got to

688
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Speaker 1: have for their program. Happen what happened when Taj Boyd

689
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Speaker 1: and then really when DeShawn Watson walked into Clemson. It

690
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: changed that program forever. Now Clemson has no problem getting

691
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Speaker 1: top quarterbacks in America. That used to not be a thing.

692
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Speaker 1: Now it is. You had Trevor Lawrence, you had dj

693
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Speaker 1: Uyangala lay Learn how to pronounce that name. By the way, folks,

694
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Speaker 1: don't make a fool of yourself like you did with

695
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Speaker 1: tongue Iiloa. Don't do that. Learn it now. Learn it

696
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Speaker 1: be ahead of schedule. Well, if that can ever have

697
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Speaker 1: happen at Notre Dame, then you start that conveyor belt

698
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: of elite perimeter skill coming in there and elite offensive

699
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: talent from all over the country wanting to come there.

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Speaker 1: I still think the brand appeals, I really do. I've

701
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: told you the story before. I grew up in Columbus, Georgia,

702
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: totally isolated from the North. I've never been to Indiana.

703
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Speaker 1: I've never been to a Notre Dame game. I saw Rudy,

704
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Speaker 1: that's all I saw. It appealed to me. I mean

705
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Speaker 1: that brand still matters a whole lot, It still carries

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Speaker 1: a lot of weight. But brands don't win. Teams win.

707
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Speaker 1: Players win, and so you got to get the players.

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Speaker 1: So I think yes, the answer is yes they could.

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Speaker 1: They got to get the right quarterback in there, and

710
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Speaker 1: then I think a lot of things would fall into place.

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Speaker 1: Otto is up next with I think a very important question.

712
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Speaker 1: If today you could only watch reruns of The Office

713
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Speaker 1: or every college football game happened for the rest of

714
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Speaker 1: the year and nothing else, which would you go with? Well, Otto,

715
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Speaker 1: I got to go with college football, and I'll tell

716
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Speaker 1: you why. I've already seen every episode of The Office,

717
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: aside from the abomination that was season nine, which we

718
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: don't talk about on Here's an eighte in series as

719
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: far as we're concerned, except for a few memorable quotes

720
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: at the end of season nine. But I already have

721
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: every one of those episodes, episodes memorized. They're all up here.

722
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: Boom boom, boom. Knocking on my head, they're all up there,

723
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: so I can just replay them anytime I want to. Anyway,

724
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: as I'm watching North Carolina Virginia Tech. But think about

725
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: what college football gives you not only do you get

726
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: the athletic competition side of things. There's a lot of

727
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: humor in college football. Did you listen to Lane Kiffin

728
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: last week? There is a lot of drama in college football.

729
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: Think about what's happening in Texas right now. There's obviously

730
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Speaker 1: a lot of entertainment in college football. And so I

731
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: get the same elements, and I add in the athletic

732
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Speaker 1: competition side of things. So as much as I love

733
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Speaker 1: the office, there's no substitute for what we get in

734
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: the world of college football. Next up was Jesse had

735
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: a question. He said, I haven't heard you talking about

736
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: going to games on Saturdays. Are you guys allowed to

737
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: go cover games? Jesse? We are allowed to, but I

738
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Speaker 1: haven't gone. I've opted not to because we cannot have

739
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: field access right now, and I like to go. I

740
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: like to be on the sideline. I like to go

741
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: to the field. I only go to the press box

742
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: to eat, and that's several times per game, but I

743
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: have chosen instead. Here's my Saturday routine. I wake up

744
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: at six forty five. I get first breakfast. Then I'll

745
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: do some looking around and reading and seeing about injury

746
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: reports and weather and stuff and looking at line moves.

747
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: Then I'll have second breakfast and pre workout. I'll go

748
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: and work out at nine am Central time. I'll have

749
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: some tweet schedule to fire off reminders to watch our

750
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: preview videos, and then I'll go over to the twenty

751
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: four to seven Sports offices, where I am one of

752
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: two people cleared to be in the building right now.

753
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: That's me picture of health, and I will set up

754
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: six monitors and I will be wall to wall from

755
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: the noon kickoffs Eastern time eleven am Central Time, all

756
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: the way until I want to say I left the

757
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: building at one forty five am Central time. No less,

758
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: this last Saturday night, early Sunday morning, that's been my day. Now.

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00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: The benefit it is, if I'm not on the road,

760
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: I can get a lot of the Sunday show done early.

761
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: But really even that's still not the case. The Sunday

762
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: show is very involved. There's a lot of work that

763
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: goes into those Sunday shows. It's fun because it's, you know,

764
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: what I would be doing anyway, but there's a lot

765
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: that goes into that. It takes a long time for

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00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: Colin and I to put those Sunday shows together, and

767
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: it's at least made a little bit easier if I'm

768
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: not on the road. So yeah, until until they lower

769
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: those restrictions on who can be on the field and

770
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: who can't, I'm probably gonna probably gonna hang out here.

771
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: Next up is Victor. I look at the remaining schedule

772
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: for Florida. I see the possibility of an eight and

773
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: two finish, provided the defense becomes even mediocre. What are

774
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: your thoughts, Victor? Certainly the possibility is there, but they man,

775
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: I've been I've been so wishy wash you on my

776
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: opinion of the SEC East. I picked Florida to or

777
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: picked Georgia to win the East, and then I saw

778
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: some things I liked, obviously from Florida in the early

779
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: portions of the season, which we're still in, and so

780
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: I leaned them. I mean, this was coinciding with Georgia

781
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: hanging a five spot in the first half against dark

782
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: And so, now here's the thing about predictions you need

783
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: to know about me. I don't care about them. I

784
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: care about my week to week predictions. I don't really

785
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: care about my preseason predictions. I flip flop all the time.

786
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: I could flip flop three or four times and not

787
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 1: care because I don't think their skill in that. That's

788
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: for fun, and that's stuff that people do in preseason

789
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: for fun, and I do it too, and I'm not

790
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: saying I don't, but I don't really care about that.

791
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: I care about the week to week stuff. So like

792
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: after this week, I mean, if Georgia were to beat

793
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: Alabama or even just look impressive against them, and Florida's

794
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: defense continues to struggle, I'd probably just switch back to Georgia, like,

795
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Speaker 1: I don't care. You can make fun of me all

796
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: you want to. I don't care, really, I mean, I

797
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: can't overstate that enough. I don't care. I'll make fun

798
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: of myself. Jeff. Is next. I know coaches have game

799
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: film of their opponents. I'm curious to know, though, how

800
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: much do they contact each other about upcoming opponents. Does

801
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: Kirby call Lane Kiffin and ask what he would have

802
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: done different against Alabama? Saban called Jeremy Pruett and ask

803
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: how he felt Georgia struggled against them. Well, Jeff, I

804
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: don't think they struggled all that much, brother, But I

805
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: get the point in what you're asking here. Yes this happens,

806
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you where it really happens, Okay that

807
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: the head coaches, Yeah, they'll talk every now and then.

808
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: I truly think where the lifeblood of the communication is

809
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: is between assistants, because all the assistants know each other.

810
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: It's an incestuous world. In the most complementary of ways.

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00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: Assistants are constantly reaching out. I was talking to one

812
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: the other day and they had an opponent coming up

813
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: that was common with a team that they had buddies

814
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: on the staff board that had already played them, And

815
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Speaker 1: he was talking about the exchange of information throughout the week,

816
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: And that's happening most every week. The point being, when

817
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: you have an industry that tight and a fraternity the

818
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: coaching world that tight, everyone has worked with everyone. The

819
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 1: whole six degrees of Kevin Bacon thing. You rarely get

820
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: six degrees or even three degrees apart in the sport

821
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: of football before some some one has worked with someone

822
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: who knows someone. So the answer is it's happening every week.

823
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,479
Speaker 1: You got to stay on people's good sides so they'll

824
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: want to help you. That's the point. And the higher

825
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: you get on the food chained, less likely they are

826
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: to want to help you. That's why that whole little

827
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: group text you heard about last week with Saban's former assistance.

828
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: It didn't include Nick Saban, did it. Now the guy's

829
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: got to know how to text before it would. But

830
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: you get the point there are we got a big

831
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Speaker 1: night coming up. I mean a really big night. We

832
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: have got the Georgia Alabama Full Prediction Special Blowout Stravaganza tonight.

833
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: Whatever I can fit on the thumbnail to be honest

834
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Speaker 1: with you, shameless, I know, So make sure you tune

835
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Speaker 1: in there. As I said, we've been doing great traffic there,

836
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: but we've also been doing great traffic here on the

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Speaker 1: podcast side of things. Remember five star reviews, five star reviews,

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839
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Speaker 1: one of you. I listened to a ton of podcasts

840
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Speaker 1: and I hear people beg for five star reviews, and

841
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Speaker 1: I'll realize, Man, I've listened to this show for like

842
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Speaker 1: a year and I haven't even given them five star reviews.

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845
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