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Speaker 1: My name is Clay Nukeleman. I'm the host of the

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Speaker 1: you just got back from Utah. I did you got

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Speaker 1: Last Saturday? Yeah, mule deer hunting with your family? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. Yeah, it's pretty beautiful up there. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you uh, I mean, I know the story here,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, you brought home some meat from you? Did?

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Speaker 1: I did? The last day I was like, I'm bringing

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Speaker 1: meat home? Yeah? Yeah, so you killed the deer. I did.

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Speaker 1: Tell us the rack just didn't matter in the end.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I need some food. This freezer is empty. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't sound good to me, that's right. So you gotta

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Speaker 1: you got a young buck tender one. So your whole family,

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Speaker 1: y'all put in together and drew this tag. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: had how many of you went up there, Well, there

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Speaker 1: were five of us up there, and four of us

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Speaker 1: talk about my Arkansas bear hunt from October the three. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and uh, this hunt, to me, of all the hunting

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Speaker 1: And it's a video we call Sheep Hunt of the South.

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Speaker 1: I started calling it that, and it's not the perfect analogy,

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Speaker 1: with the flesh of a bear that day when I

427
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 1: headed up the mountain, you had the scent, that's right.

428
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: That may have helped me. Smelled like a bear. Well,

429
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: so I didn't get to the mount until like eleven o'clock,

430
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: and so you know, I'm kind of moving into mid

431
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 1: day afternoon, and uh, I had scheduled a meeting with

432
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 1: the leadership team of our men's group for our church

433
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: at noon that day. I didn't even tell you this.

434
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: I've heard about it, okay, So so we had to

435
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: have a meeting and it was gonna be by phone,

436
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: and there's I think there's six got men involved in it.

437
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: And I said, I just said, okay, we're gonna do

438
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: it at noon. And I knew that I had to

439
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 1: get to the top of the mountain before noon to

440
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: get self coverage because there's no self coverage down low.

441
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: And so I was hooking it to the top of

442
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: the mountain all the while watching this bear sign and stuff. Heck,

443
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: that's the reason I had to go to the top

444
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: of the mountain. I really wanted to go there for

445
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 1: the bear sign, but I had to go at the

446
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: top of the mountain. Anyway, when I get up there

447
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: and start fighting all this sign, and I know I've

448
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: got to make this conference call. And I call the

449
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: guys and I'm whispering, and I tell him I'm like, guys, hey,

450
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of some smoking hot bear sign,

451
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: better bear sign than I found in a long time.

452
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: And and we and we talked about the topic at hand,

453
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: and we had about a twenty minute meeting and I'm

454
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: over here whispering, like looking around, hoping I didn't see

455
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: a bear. But uh. I strategically placed myself on the

456
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: mountain for that meeting as well, where the wind was

457
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: blowing my scent off a mountain and I was I

458
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: was like putting my hand up over and anyway, that

459
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 1: was funny and so uh. And then and then my

460
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: good buddy, who I won't name his name, Josh Spillmaker,

461
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: got mad at me because I didn't text him immediately

462
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: when I killed the bear. Because when I got off

463
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,479
Speaker 1: the phone and he was like, man, if you kill

464
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: a bear, text me, call me. And I forgot. I

465
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: totally forgot to tell him that I killed a bear. Yeah,

466
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 1: so anyway, that was a little bit of a rabbit trail. Yeah,

467
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: we'll give him a sticker or something. Yeah, we'll get

468
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: Josh Spillmaker. If you listen to this and you caught

469
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,239
Speaker 1: and you tell me that you listen to this, this

470
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: is a good test for This is a good Okay, Josh,

471
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: if you listen to this podcast, you can collect your

472
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: bear hunting magazine decals from the Kolby the Bear Tech

473
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: more head. Okay, just you know how to get in

474
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: touch with him. Okay, So I'm on top of the mountain.

475
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: You're on top of the mountain, and it's about one

476
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: o'clock now. Yeah, I go over to check my truck camera,

477
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: which is over the mud hole. I feel like we're

478
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: using a lot of trail cameras in this one. Yeah,

479
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: so I feel I feel like we should say what

480
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 1: stamped on those trail cameras. Go ahead and tell him

481
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: cutty back yeah, backs and bare boxes. I mean, if

482
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: if we've been using another truil camera, we probably would

483
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: just seem just bear tell ins. Yeah, we probably wouldn't

484
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: have caught the whole bear on the camera. That's right. Yeah,

485
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 1: cutty backs man, Uh, Mark cutting back is a good

486
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: friend of ours. Um and and uh and he's oh

487
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: yeah bear hunter. Yeah, he loves the bear hunt. Yeah,

488
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: that's why we associate ourselves with him. Yeah, yeah, Mark killed.

489
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 1: Mark killed a fifty three inch moose in Ontario back

490
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: in September with right on he did. It's it's a

491
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: it's not really even a it's it's a guided hunt,

492
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: but it's not. It's a self guided hunt. So anyway,

493
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: he loves moose hunt too, that's yeah. So they I

494
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: always use baar boxes in these mountains because bears are

495
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: super attracted to petroleum d They love plastic. I mean

496
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: you could go out and put a plastic milk jug

497
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: on a tree. Yeah, ratchet strap it to a tree,

498
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: or zip tied to a tree, leave it out there,

499
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: and a bear is gonna chew it up. That's very interesting,

500
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: it is. It's crazy. My dad actually used to have

501
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: an idea that he thought you could bait a bear

502
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: using plastic, like literally, like you could. You can't bait

503
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: using food food related you know. And he was like

504
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: man because he had a lot of experience, um, trying

505
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: to stash well tree stands number one, but also trying

506
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: to stash supplies back in far back places when he

507
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: was wanting to go back in there and camp. So

508
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: he had a lot of experience like trying to hide

509
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: stuff and you cannot hide anything from a bear. He

510
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: was he was burying stuff, he was burying water jugs,

511
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: burying canned goods, and bears would find it well tear

512
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: it up and uh so anyway, so Dad was always like, man,

513
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: I think you go to Walmart and buy a toy,

514
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: buy a beach ball and hang it from a tree

515
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: and set up a stand and in two days you

516
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: will kill a bear. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.

517
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: That's funny. It's funny. It's who knows. But they'll find it.

518
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: So anyway, Well, somebody, somebody submitted something in the photo

519
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: contest for the trail cam giveaway that they had a

520
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: minion painted on their on their their bait barrel. Maybe

521
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: we just need to get a plastic minion and take

522
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: it up from a tree. I don't think that would

523
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: break any laws in front of a in front of

524
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: a camera, and just see what they do to it.

525
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: That is a great idea. I need to do that.

526
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: We love testing things around here. Yeah, we need to

527
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: do that. So I go to the mud hole and

528
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: I pulled a car. Well. First of all, the mudhole

529
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: is totally dry when I get there, bone dry, and uh.

530
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: I was a little bit disheartened by that because it

531
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: was hot. It was it was in the eighties. I mean,

532
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm covered in sweat um hot, but there's no water. Well.

533
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: I checked the camera and there had been a bear

534
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: there two hours before. I can't remember if it's an

535
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 1: hour or two. I think it was two hours before.

536
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: And a bear had been there every single day since

537
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: I left on September three, it's now October three. I'm serious,

538
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not exaggerating. The fourth, fifth, the six, seven, eight,

539
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: all the way, and two days before the water hole

540
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: had dried up. I mean these bears were drinking water

541
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: out of a pool of water as big as a

542
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: dish plate for several days, you know. I mean they

543
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: were just coming and just lapping water out of there,

544
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: and finally it dried up. Well, I guess the bears

545
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 1: didn't know that it had dried up, and they were

546
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: still coming over there to check. Yeah, I think that's

547
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: probably what was happening. And number two, there were wide

548
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: oak acorns everywhere up on top of this ridge, and

549
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: so the bears were just there. I think they were

550
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: just coming down the top of that ridge and it's like, hey,

551
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: we'll just walk by the mud hole over there. And

552
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: they don't wallow like pigs really, but they do like

553
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: to get down in and get wet, you know. And

554
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: so I think they were still laying down kind of

555
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: in the mud even when there wasn't water there. So anyway,

556
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: needless to say, I'm highly encouraged by the fact that

557
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: there's been bears in there every day. And there was

558
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: a bear in there and two hours before I got there.

559
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: So what did you do? Good question? Man. The wind

560
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: was out of the north, and so I got on

561
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: the north side or the south side of the water hole.

562
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: I had my tree saddle with me. I tethered tree

563
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: saddle would have been perfect. That was that was my land,

564
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: was to hang a tree saddle and and be able

565
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: to shoot right to the water. But there's no water,

566
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: so I didn't know if they were going to actually

567
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: come to it, like to that exact spot, even though

568
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: I thought they would be in the general area you

569
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: could see probably fifty yards in most directions, and so

570
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: what I decided to do. Well, well, what were you having, like,

571
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: what kind of range were you trying to get in within? Well?

572
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: I was, I was shooting the traditional bow. Yeah, so

573
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: I mean I wanted to be within fifteen yards of them,

574
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: and um, so what I decided not to sit in

575
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: the saddle because I didn't want to be locked down

576
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: in the tree and a bear not come to the

577
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: mud hole and be forty yards away eating acorns and

578
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: me be up in a tree and not be able

579
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: to come down and I being able to situate and

580
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: readjust yea, So I backed off the water hole forty

581
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: yards on the down wind side. And what I did

582
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: was actually scratched away the leaves. You know. I took

583
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: about four minutes and kicked the leaves back, making steps

584
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: towards the water hole for about fifteen to twenty yards.

585
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? So that so that if a

586
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: bear did come to the water hole, I could stalk

587
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: him without making noise. The leaves are super dry. Yeah,

588
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: you know, you're very forward thinking, forward thinking. I did

589
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: that the first time when I was eighteen years old

590
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: hunting a hunting a hog over bait. One time I

591
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: did that, I made I made I cleared a trail

592
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: all the way to this little spot. I was baiting pigs,

593
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: and uh, I'll be darn. The first time I went

594
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: in there, I walked on my trail about forty yards,

595
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: peeked over big old hog down there, shot him. That's

596
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: another story, Colby, and for another time. So but but

597
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: I was thinking, if he does come to that water

598
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: hole and I need to get within range of him,

599
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: I want to be able to move quietly. So I

600
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: just scratched the leaves back, just made little foots, you know,

601
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: little places about as big as a dish plate, scratch scratch, scratch,

602
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 1: scratch scratch, where I could just move around. Because man,

603
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I have learned is these bears

604
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: are easy to stalk when they're eating acorns. If a bears,

605
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: if a bear's got his head up and his walking,

606
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna be pretty aware of what's going on.

607
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: But man, if they've got their head down eating acrons,

608
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: I mean you could almost walk up to him and

609
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: slap them in the butt and it's there. They seem

610
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: to be pretty singularly focused. So I'm sitting there, winds

611
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: hitting me in the face. Mud holes in front of

612
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: me forty yards. I sit there for two hours and

613
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: it's now three o'clock. I think I got settled in

614
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: at one o'clock. That's that's what happened. And at three

615
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: o'clock I hear some brush breaking behind me. I mean,

616
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: it sounds like a deer coming. You know. I've had

617
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: people ask me what a bear sounds like. They can

618
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: be very quiet, but if they're not trying to be sneaky,

619
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: they make noise, especially in dry leaves. Yeah, I just

620
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: I just heard leaves crunching, and uh, turn around. About

621
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: forty yards away, I see a bear kind of up

622
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: on a little rise from me. And the wind had

623
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: been hitting me in the face going straight to there,

624
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: so I thought, this bear is gonna smell me. But

625
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: just at that moment the bear was kind of the

626
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: wind was kind of coming out of the west, and

627
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: so it was starting to hit me in the left

628
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: side of my face rather than the front of my nose. Yeah,

629
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: so this bears directly behind me. Well, I get. I

630
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: had also the other thing I always do this, I

631
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: always do it when I sit on the ground, as

632
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: I had cleared out a big circle so I could

633
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: move maneuver around and not make noise. So I cleared

634
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: out just bear dirt and about a five by five

635
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: area where I had my gear. I could stretch out anyway,

636
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: so that's all that's bear. Yeah. Uh, it's good. It's

637
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: good to do that. I was able to get turned

638
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: around and watching the bear and that didn't make any noise.

639
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: And he's just gradually moving towards me, and it didn't

640
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: take him very long. I feel like he was coming

641
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: to that mud hole because he was. If he had

642
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: stayed on his trajectory, he would have walked within like

643
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: five yards of me, which I thought that's what he

644
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: was gonna do something. Yeah, But when he got to

645
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: within about twelve yards, he saw me, and I believe

646
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: he started cutting my wind because the wind was kind

647
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: of going back between north and west, and he kind

648
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: of started Bob's head and then he looked over and

649
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: saw me, and uh, he was not he didn't. You know,

650
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: if it had been a deer, he would have just

651
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: like sprinted off and snorted. What he did is he

652
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: kind of stiff armed the ground like he kind of

653
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: he made one quick little step and kind of stomped

654
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: the ground down a little bit, and then he just

655
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: kind of started angling towards me but getting further away

656
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: from me, and that trajectory was gonna put him at

657
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: about thirteen fourteen yards And by this time he's he's

658
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: looking at me. Yeah, And it's kind of an odd

659
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: thing with bears, but they'll do it, especially if they

660
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: don't directly have your sin. I think if he would

661
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: have directly smelled me, he would have just turned around

662
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,959
Speaker 1: and just left. But but he he was just kind

663
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: of getting a little bit of wind and he saw

664
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: me and he was going away from me. But basically

665
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: he just stepped out there thirteen yards. It looked like

666
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: a look to me, like a uh just it was

667
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 1: just an average bore. Yeah. But boy, in national forest,

668
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm not selective. Yeah, really not. I'm just not there yet.

669
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: There may come a day when I'm selective in national forest,

670
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: but it's not twenty nineteen. That's what that's what bating

671
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: is for. Yeah, exactly. So it's like, I'm gonna take

672
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: this bear if it gives me an opportunity, and U

673
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: thirteen yards broadside drawback and I mean just tend ringed him. Yeah,

674
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: I mean, just I couldn't have put the era any

675
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: I put it right where I wanted to put it.

676
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: And man, every time you do that with a traditional boat,

677
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: you feel so fortunate, you really do. I mean, you know,

678
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: you practice and you know you can do that, but

679
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: when you do it on a live animal, it's so

680
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: it's just like you're just like, ah, good, You're just

681
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: such a satisfying feeling to get a good shot. I

682
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: knew the bear was done, but he ran out of

683
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: sight and he did not death moan. I have found

684
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: that probably of the bears that I have killed of

685
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: death moaned. A lot of people ask about that because

686
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people think that every bear that dies

687
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: death moans. But that is not true. Um, even though

688
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: some people have skewed stats, like some guys are like

689
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: every bear I've ever killed did that. Well, it's the genetics.

690
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm just joking. Yeah, I don't know, some do, some don't.

691
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: This bear didn't, and he ran about fifty yards and died,

692
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: but it was out of sight of me, so I

693
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 1: didn't know for sure. My era passed all the way

694
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: through him and stuck in a sapling. That's cool, you

695
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: have to see the video of the pictures. But it

696
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: just ten ringed the sapling about as big around as

697
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: your thumb and buried up almost to the inserts after

698
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: passing through that bear. Wow, that must be a good broadhead.

699
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: It is a good broadhead. Thank you for team me up. Now.

700
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: I was shooting at a day six evo hundred and

701
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: fifty grain. Yeah, day six broad as. I like him, Yeah,

702
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: I like him. It's a it's a cut on impact,

703
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: real high grade steel. It holds its sharpness really well.

704
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: They fly really well. They're kind of a short ferreled head,

705
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: so it's a it's a two blade with a with

706
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: the kickers little bleeders. Yeah, but they looked really nice.

707
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: That's what River killed her big bear with. You got

708
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: a total pass through with her, you know, forty five

709
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: pound bow on three d plus pound bear, total pass through.

710
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: And then I gotta pass through with with a sapling yep,

711
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: and then that's a double pass through, a double pass through.

712
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: Just I'm just kidding. So anyway, I recovered the bear,

713
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 1: and uh, I had I had self coverage up there,

714
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: and it's now three o'clock. But I'm a minimum, I'm

715
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: a long way from the truck. Let me put that way,

716
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: And I knew I wasn't gonna get that bear out

717
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: by myself, and so I called you, yep, and you

718
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: were here at the Global Headquarters. And uh, I had

719
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: taken my daughter's car, as I said before, So my

720
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: truck was at the Global Headquarters with the mule trailer

721
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: already attached. Yeah, and I've been texting you, didn't I

722
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: text you? You tell you I was in the chip Yeah,

723
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: that's probably what I said, word for word. I've been

724
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: the chips. Well, I finally called Colby and just say

725
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: it's a man, I killed a bear. And I said,

726
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: get in my truck, bloat up, ezy, get in my

727
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: truck and drive down here, because I gotta have easy

728
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: And it was just great that it was a week

729
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: day and that you were here, that you were able

730
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: to do that, because I would have been in trouble. Yeah,

731
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: you've been sweating it up. Yeah I don't. I mean,

732
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: I could have got the bear out of there, but

733
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: it just would have been a lot harder. And it

734
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: was a perfect time because it takes about two and

735
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: a half hours or so to get there, and I

736
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: knew it would take me that long to skinning quarter

737
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: of the bear and to get back to my truck,

738
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: And so I mean it worked perfect. I called my dad,

739
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: and uh, Dad came out and met me at my truck,

740
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: and he brought he brought me a flashlight, a big flashlight,

741
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: because I really wasn't prepared to hunt. I usually carry

742
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: my good coon light with me even when I when

743
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 1: I'm going back in the mountains, a smaller coon light,

744
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: and it didn't have it. And so I called Dad

745
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: and he knew I was probably gonna be coming out

746
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: of there in the dark, and so he said, well,

747
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: I'll meet you out there and bring you a light.

748
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: And it was cool he came. I think he really

749
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: wanted to just be a part of it, you know.

750
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: So so when I so, I skinned the bear quarter

751
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: to bear, Uh hung the hide up on a log

752
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: so it kind of stay cool even though it was

753
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: quite warm air temperature. And man, I hadn't been at

754
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: my truck ten minutes when you pulled up with Izzy.

755
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: This is perfect timing. And uh, by the time I

756
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: got her saddled up, I calculated I had forty five

757
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: minutes to an hour before dark. Is that about right? Probably? So, yeah,

758
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: it was starting to get a little dusky. Yeah, And

759
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: that's about how long I knew it would take me

760
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 1: to get back up there on riding Izzy. I'd already

761
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: walked up on foot and come down on foot, and

762
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: so anyway, I was pretty tired, or you know, just

763
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 1: a little fatigued. But anyway, I was able to ride

764
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: her back up in there, and and carried a paniard

765
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: with me, so I have just a standard just a

766
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: regular saddle, but uh I used James Lawrence's old canvas

767
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 1: paniard that I was able to carry up with me

768
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: and then put it drapes over the saddle and has

769
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: these big huge bags on either side. So I couldn't

770
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: ride her back down, but I was able to put

771
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: the meat and hide on her, which she did good.

772
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: She had carried Rivers Barry out a couple of days

773
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: before and had thrown a little bit of a fit,

774
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: got a little snorty, didn't like it. Uh Ace didn't

775
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: mind to bear at all. So Aces Colby's mule, and

776
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: uh Ace was just kind of like whatever, man, I

777
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: just just ready to go back and eat some hay

778
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: back home. Yeah, he's the old man. He's the old man.

779
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: But is he was a little snorty, but we have

780
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: to bear hide on her. Well, this is three days later.

781
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: I guess three days after rivers bear I think, or

782
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: maybe four days it was close. Well, is, he had

783
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: no problem with me putting the meat on her, which

784
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: a lot of horses and mules don't want you the

785
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: smell of blood and flesh. And so she was cool

786
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: with me putting the meat in. But when I started

787
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: walking over there with that big old ball of bear hide, yeah,

788
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: she got snorty. And but it didn't take much a

789
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: little convincing, uh, and I got it on her. Yeah. Well,

790
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: we've been working with her too, you know. It's not

791
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: just like going up and seeing if we could throw

792
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: one on her. Yeah, I've been it's the visual aspect

793
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: of the hide that she doesn't like. And then up

794
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: in Montana when you were with me, she I thought

795
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: she was gonna hurt herself. She was pretty pretty wild.

796
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: She was worked up about that bear h And you know,

797
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: I think a lot of guys would have just given

798
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: up on him on her at that point, or pressure

799
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: too hard. Well yeah, and really messed it up. Uh.

800
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: But I just couldn't take no for an answer, that is,

801
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: he wasn't going to carry a bear hide. And so

802
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: on the way back from Montana, I put the fresh

803
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: hide up in the horse trailer with her. She rode

804
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: for six hours with a fresh bear hide right in

805
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: her nose, and then she was already sniffing it a

806
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: little bit on on on the way down. Yeah, yeah,

807
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: on on smoky. So yeah, we we've been training her

808
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: and even the week before bear season in Arkansas, I

809
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: took some of my hides from down here and left

810
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: him out on the fence. And though it didn't smell

811
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: like a bear because there's a tan, clean hide, she

812
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: was still afraid of it is that visual aspect, and

813
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: so I fed her um. I fed her around that hide,

814
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: you know, like a tan hide, and we worked with

815
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: her quite a bit. So I was really pleased to

816
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: get the bear hide on her and came off the

817
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: mountain and man, we I ground that bear up. Cut,

818
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: cut some bear steaks, cut some assabuco out of the shanks.

819
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: I just used a hand saw, which is a ton

820
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: of work. Yeah, it really was more work. I need

821
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: a My My saw ended up being right here in

822
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: my desk. No, yeah, I found it yesterday, your bones saw. Dang, Well,

823
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 1: thanks for that now. So I I cut the shanks

824
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: and assabuco I cut, I cut some good bear steaks

825
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: out of the backstraps, and the rest I ground and

826
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: we ate some of it fresh that I never froze.

827
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: Made some uh we we like to make. Uh we

828
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 1: call them ranch being nachos. But where you take ground

829
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: met you brown meat, whether it's deer, bear or whatever,

830
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 1: brown meat, put in taco seasoning. While you're browning the meat,

831
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: you also put in uh peppers and onions, like a

832
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: frozen mix of peppers and onions, and then put in

833
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: a can of ranch beans and uh with the taco seasoning. Yeah,

834
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: it's super easy and super good. So we we that.

835
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 1: Like two days later we had some fresh bear meat. Yeah.

836
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: Pleases even the pickiest of eaters, It really did. But

837
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: my kids, I'm famous around these this this little track

838
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: of land right here for ranch being nachos, wild game

839
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: ranch being nachos. So anyway, that was the hunt man

840
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: um And for me, I would I'd rather kill a

841
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: bear like that than a Kodiak brown bear. I said

842
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: that on the video, and I mean I really do.

843
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I got a brown bear hanging

844
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: right there on the wall, and uh, I am eternally

845
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: grateful for that brown bear and always will be but

846
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: I'll treasure these this you know, average black bear more

847
00:47:55,239 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: than that in terms of personal hunting goals. Yeah, and uh,

848
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: and that's just the truth, not to devalue a brown

849
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: bear because it was a majestic beast too, but on

850
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: a personal level. But yeah, what are your thoughts call me?

851
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: Or what what questions would people or or I don't

852
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: know what unanswered questions have we what unanswered things have

853
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: we not talked about? Well, I think people will probably

854
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: asking about the saddle, the original like idea, like what

855
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: your setups like, because that's something that I don't think

856
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of bear hunters do. I mean,

857
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: it's something that's that's kind of going inside of like

858
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: a white till scenario. But you know, saddles have been

859
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: around for a long time, but I think they're just

860
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: not kind of coming back into style or popularity. So

861
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: and I know it's a new system. So where your

862
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: thoughts on the saddle? Yeah, I really like the saddle.

863
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: I've got the Tethered Mantis with there with with Tethered's

864
00:48:55,160 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: little platform. They're little cast metal platform and I was

865
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: carrying two two three muddy sticks. So it was it's

866
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: uh because I wasn't planning on needing to get up

867
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: twenty feet. I was hoping to get up ten feet,

868
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: just to get up above kind of just the eyesight

869
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: and and maybe get some wind, get some wind in

870
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: my favor. I really like it for that kind of

871
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: hunting because that such a light set up, easy set up.

872
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 1: Um more of a running gun, total running gun, which

873
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: is great for that kind of hunting. Because if there

874
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: had been water in that water hole, that's probably what

875
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 1: I would have done. If I had known there will

876
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: be a bear right there, that's what I would have.

877
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 1: Just climbed up a little bitty tree that I couldn't

878
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: have even put a stand there there. There weren't big

879
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: trees around this water hole. The tree that I had

880
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: picked out was about eight inches in diameter, which would

881
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: have been difficult to put just about any kind of

882
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: tree stand in. And uh, you know, it would have

883
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: been a small tree. But if I was only up

884
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: eight or ten feet, it is probably a it's probably

885
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: bigger than what I said. It's probably a twelve inch

886
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: tree at the base, you know. And but that that was, Yeah,

887
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: I think it's a great set up. The other thing

888
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: we were going to try to talk about some gear

889
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: because the video intentionally didn't put any gear stuff or

890
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: any product promotion stuff in our video. Um, I think

891
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people would have questions about wearing them

892
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: renal wool inside of warmer temperatures, and I want to

893
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: do that. Well, I'll talk about the clothing I had on. Yeah,

894
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 1: I had on First Light sawbuck pants. Yeah, k Kobe,

895
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: I just wore those for six days straight and only

896
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: took them off at night when I was sleeping. Yeah.

897
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: Are those are the brush pans? Yeah, they're the brush pants. Man.

898
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: Briar bridges, I think that may go down as First

899
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: Lights greatest creation. Yeah, yeah, I mean, and you know,

900
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's an it's an old it's a

901
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: throwback to something old. But they're doing it different than

902
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: any other briar pant I've ever had. All the briar

903
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: bridges I have are not comfortable. I enjoy wearing them

904
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: because they protect you from briars. Uh. They and not

905
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: just briars, They just they you know, you kind of

906
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: feel like you're just wearing a little bit of armor,

907
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, like riding mules where we were just at

908
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: in New Mexico. Man, your your knees are constantly hitting stuff,

909
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: scratching on stuff. Man, they're perfect. Well. I was wearing

910
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: the Sawbuck pants on this day, um, and there. The

911
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: reason they're different than everything else is that they've got

912
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: this athletic, lightweight, fast, dry and synthetic material that is

913
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: the back and butt and crotch and back of the pants.

914
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 1: You know, it's their Corgate guide pants. Breathe very well,

915
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: very light, very comfortable. And then the front is this

916
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: brush pant which is kind of just a thicker um,

917
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, but not hot. They're not hot. That's a

918
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: couple of bass. Are they hot? Now? I wouldn't call

919
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: them hot at all. Um. It was very warm that

920
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: day and I was wearing a Marino wool his T

921
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 1: shirt first, like T shirt, that's all I had on. Yeah,

922
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 1: I was wearing a crew top T shirt, didn't didn't

923
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: have any face camo or anything else. Wearing a little

924
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 1: Marino wool hat. But that you can see in the picture.

925
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: When I came off the mountain after dark, I took

926
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: a picture with me and Iszy with a hide over her.

927
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: I think it's on social media. I'm covered in sweat.

928
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: Is He's covered in sweat? Too. Yeah, and uh, that

929
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: marino wool just dries out so quick. Yeah. If that

930
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: had been cotton, I would have been miserable all the

931
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: way home, you know. Rafe took at a picture of

932
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: I jumped in my truck and drove home. Well, that

933
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: stuff dries out quick, it really does. That was one

934
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: of the things I found in Utah and that cold

935
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: weather because whenever we got out and and really hooked

936
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: it up the mountain through the snow, like, I just

937
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: got to sweating. You know. I went from cold just

938
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: like hot and sweating. But I never got yeah, really

939
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: cold again, even when I've whenever I was um, you know,

940
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: just soaking wet, and even on like the ride back

941
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: to camp on this on the side by side, it

942
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: was like I wasn't freezing. And then I was like, man,

943
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 1: I needed to go, I need to go change my clothes.

944
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: And by the time I finally got around to doing it,

945
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 1: it was already dry. Yeah. This just was crazy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

946
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: and I didn't feel like wet, you know, It's almost

947
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: like it pulled it away from my skin. So yeah,

948
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: it was really cool. Um. The other the other gear

949
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: related issue we already talked about the broadhead. But I

950
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: always have a lot of people ask me about my

951
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: traditional boats set up. Yeah, so I'm I'm shooting a

952
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: Timber Ghost G three S S. Okay, that's what it's called.

953
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: Timber Ghost is a brand. Uh. It's made by Bowyer

954
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: here in northwest Arkansas, a friend of ours named Kent Roberts.

955
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: So that G three S S is uh. G G

956
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: three stands for Generation three Superstatic. Yeah, because it has

957
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: super static limbs, has these ultra recurved limbs that they

958
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: call that super A static limb means a recurve limb.

959
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: Super Static means that it's got these super radical hooks,

960
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: which it has is radical hooks is just about any

961
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: bowl in the market. And those radical hooks make that

962
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: bow literally one of the fastest recurve bows made. Yeah,

963
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: it seems really fast whenever you shoot it compared to

964
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 1: other recurves I've seen. Well, it's it's not too big

965
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: of a deal to get that bow shooting over two

966
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,439
Speaker 1: hundred feet per second with a you know, a five

967
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: plus grain arrow, which is fast for recurve. Yeah, fast,

968
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: and you've got some momentum with the heavy arrows. Right. Yeah.

969
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: So so I'm shooting that timber ghost G three s s.

970
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: It's a takedown bow. This is a three piece bow

971
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: which just this week I was hunting in New Mexico

972
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: on mules and I had that thing broken down in

973
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: a little case that's about twenty long. Yeah, I mean

974
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: it's very very portable, very portable. You can you can

975
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: build that bow in about three minutes, probably maybe even less.

976
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, on this time, I had it

977
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: fully strong the whole time, but a lot of times

978
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: I don't. If I'm riding on the mule, I'll break

979
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: it down and put it in a saddle bag. And uh,

980
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 1: I'm pulling fifty two pounds at inches. I probably pulled

981
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: twenty seven inches, so I'm probably pulling about fifty pounds.

982
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: I'm shooting the day six arrows, four spine. Um, they

983
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: those eras are gonna be weighing in the five fifty range.

984
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: And uh, it's it's a it's a good it's a

985
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: it's a good setup. I like it. Yeah it Uh

986
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to really twist at all or anything

987
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: when you pull all the way back either, what I mean,

988
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: the limbs like they don't seem to like tweak. It

989
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: just seems like it just pulled straight back like it.

990
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: It just seems dirty. Yeah, those limbs are really stable.

991
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: That's been the Some other superstatic limbs are unstable, meaning

992
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: that you shoot them through four inner times and they break. Um.

993
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: You know, I've shot this bow for years and it

994
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: is uh, it's still still strong. And Kent's had good

995
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 1: luck with us with his limbs. Um. So that's my

996
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: bow set up. I shoot three fingers under. I shoot

997
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: a just a standard glove. UM. I have been influenced

998
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: by some of the by the by the trad guys

999
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: right now that are making a lot of headway. Um.

1000
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: Who am I thinking of Tom Clum and uh Joel Turner.

1001
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: I've taken none of their classes, but just kind of

1002
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: the backwash of their philosophies have influenced me in a

1003
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: good way. I mean, like I'm trying to hold my

1004
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: anchor longer. I'm trying to uh. I mean that's the

1005
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: probably the main thing that I'm doing. We can nerd

1006
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: out about trad archery, but those are those are good guys,

1007
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: the guys that push archery. Their podcast is really good too. Um.

1008
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: But but I'm kind of a snapshooter, which those guys

1009
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: don't like UM and uh, my goal has been to

1010
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: get within fifteen yards a game and kill game inside

1011
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: of fifteen yards. And uh, you can snapshoot effectively if

1012
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: if those are your goals, if you're trying to kill

1013
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: game at twenty five and thirty yards. You know, some

1014
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: of the Olympic style UM shooting that they're doing is

1015
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: highly beneficial. Uh, some of the stuff. And uh, but anyway,

1016
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of a snapshooter. I'm not a gap

1017
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: shooter at all. I for for all the consciousness that

1018
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: I have, I believe that I'm shooting instinctively. I mean,

1019
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, Kobe, I don't know if you know it,

1020
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: but a lot of guys draw the bow and use

1021
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: the tip of the arrow tame and it's called gap

1022
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: shoot and it's it's it's a very effective way to shoot. Um.

1023
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: I don't do that. I'm just shooting like I'm throwing

1024
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: a baseball. And uh, you know, I'm confident out to

1025
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 1: twenty yards and then I've killed gay I killed killed

1026
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: a deer two years ago at twenty four yards. I

1027
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: guess that's the longest and well shot a bear in Saskatchewan.

1028
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: A second second shot at about twenty five yards um,

1029
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: but mostly my range is I want him inside of

1030
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: fifteen and I just feel real confident at that range. Um.

1031
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: But so that's my that that's my bow set up.

1032
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: We talked about broadheads, we talked about arrows, We talked

1033
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: about the tree saddle. UM. We talked about the first

1034
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: light gear, talked about the game camera. Talked about the

1035
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: game camera. Um, yeah, I filmed the whole hunt. That's

1036
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: somebody might be interested in how I did that. You know,

1037
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: I carry a little uh, what's what kind of tripod

1038
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: is that? Look at that tripod Colby, it's uh, what

1039
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: brand is that? As a good tripod for so, Yeah,

1040
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: it's a little Vanguard ALTA two three three, a zero

1041
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: tripod and it's it's big enough that you know you

1042
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: you know it if you got it. But it's good

1043
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: enough that it's a good it's still a good tripod.

1044
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: I carry that thing with me everywhere I go. Yeah,

1045
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: it's been used on every video, every every video I've

1046
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: ever made. That tripod made it and I had it

1047
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: up there, packed it on the mules in Montana. It's

1048
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: been had the heck beat out of it. Actually, I

1049
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: think there might be a video of me running with

1050
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: it in Montana. Yeah. Oh you know what, this isn't

1051
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: the original one. My my friend who will remain nameless,

1052
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: but he knows who he is. Forest Um left my

1053
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 1: tripod underneath a lime tree in Idaho six. I think, yeah, yeah, yep.

1054
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: We got back to the tru after walking two hours

1055
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: straight up the mountain, two hours after dark, and I

1056
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: was like, hey, man, where's the trapod? And he was like,

1057
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: I thought you had it. I was like, no, you

1058
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: had it. Oh yeah, so this is so this is

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01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: version two of that trap If you're listening to the podcast,

1060
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: will give you a stick or two. Okay, this is

1061
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: a test. This is a test. Forest. You know who

1062
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: you are. We will send you a sticker if you

1063
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: if you claim it. I give him a hard and

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01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: have four years about that trapod. He knows I'm just

1065
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: kidding him. Um. But so I was using a Cannon

1066
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: G thirty camera when I'm self filming. That's what I

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01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: use because it's so small, such a good camera, wide

1068
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: angle lens, beautiful color. Uh, it's a great all around camera,

1069
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: very versatile. Man. I beat the tar out of that

1070
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: camera Colby one time. I left that camera on the

1071
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: hood of my truck in Saskatchewan overnight when it poured

1072
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: down rain. Yeah, I haven't heard that story. Yeah r

1073
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: G thirty. I've left it on the hood of my

1074
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: truck and just went to sleep and just forgot it

1075
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: out there rain. That night, I woke up and I

1076
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: see the camera on the hood and I'm like, dang,

1077
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: that camera is going to be toast. Flip it open,

1078
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: turned it on, fires up. Has never missed a beat

1079
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: since then. Yeah. It lived in the saddle bag on

1080
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: the old smokey in Montana, Teo. Yeah, it's It's a

1081
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: heck of a camera, very versatile, very tough. So I

1082
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: was using that one and I had it positioned such

1083
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: that I was in front of the camera. Um, I

1084
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: wanted to capture me drawing the bow and you know,

1085
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: so I was like, I kill a bear, I'm gonna

1086
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: be in front of the camp, which is harder. You

1087
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: see me in the video once turned back and look

1088
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: to make sure the bears in the frame. You know,

1089
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: it's much easier to have the camera in front of

1090
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: you and shoot from behind the camera. It it's less

1091
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: you don't see, it's not as cool of it. And

1092
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: these are things I'm thinking about as a filmmaker, it's

1093
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna I'm gonna get in front of that camera. Yeah,

1094
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: and then if you were up in the tree, you

1095
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: have a different arm, right, Yeah, I've got a fourth

1096
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: arrow camera arm that I use up in the tree,

1097
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: which I really like. I need to get their new one. Yeah,

1098
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: I think sturdy. Yeah yeah, yeah, I almost feel like

1099
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: you could hang off of it. Just yeah, you probably could.

1100
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: You probably could, um and then they go pro. I

1101
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: didn't even have it up there that day. I didn't

1102
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: even use it. Yeah. So but the other cameras that

1103
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: I use for more cinematic stuff or more intentional stuff,

1104
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: you know, this kind of film is like all self film,

1105
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: and so I was just using the G thirty. But

1106
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: I've got a Sony seven R and I've got a

1107
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: Cannon five D DSLR Mark three. Yeah for for anybody

1108
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: who's interested, they might know that. But I take my

1109
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: pictures with a Cannon five D Mark three. And uh

1110
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: but a lot of our slow most stuff is from

1111
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: that Sony SR. But kolbe thinking about selling every one

1112
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: of those. Did you know that you didn't? Well, there's

1113
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: been some toss around of different technology. I think I

1114
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: know what I want to do now. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1115
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I haven't heard this so anyway, if you're

1116
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: interested in buying any of these cameras from me, uh,

1117
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: just forget about the story about that one being left

1118
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: on the hood in a rainstorm. What are you talking about.

1119
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: It's tried and true, it's weather proof, it works just fine. Yeah,

1120
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: you can send it through the car wash. Yeah. Yeah. Man,

1121
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: well no, I think I'm gonna get it. Maybe a

1122
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: different setup, but yeah. No. So I was carrying a

1123
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: Kafaru pack too. Yeah, I got Kafaru Shape Charge pack

1124
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: with a little ad on pack on the back and

1125
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: super tough pack, great zippers. I mean just like you

1126
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: couldn't get any higher quality than that pack, you know. Yeah,

1127
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: I wish it was a little bit bigger, and I

1128
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: just got it's not the pack spot that it's small.

1129
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,959
Speaker 1: I mean that it's just kind of a day pack. Yeah.

1130
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: But when I'm carrying my camera gear, I probably need

1131
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: to get from them a little bit bigger pack. Yeah,

1132
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: but but the pack is super comfortable. I like everything

1133
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: about it. I just needed to be about uh cubic

1134
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: foot bigger. Yeah, yeah, when you're carrying gear, You're carrying

1135
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: a lot of extra stuff that most people don't, so

1136
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: it's not really Yeah. Yeah, I do always carry my

1137
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: garment in reach. Yeah, I had it with me the

1138
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: whole time. Part of that hunt I'm in cell range,

1139
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: but part of it I'm not. And so I've got

1140
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: to where I carry that almost with me everywhere. I

1141
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: used to not carry into that stuff. It was just

1142
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: kind of like, but if you got it, you might

1143
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 1: as well carry it. Yeah, let's nice to be able

1144
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: to communicate to Whenever you send a message, it will

1145
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: send your location too. So if you needed help getting

1146
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: something out, I could have called in the chopper. Man

1147
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: you hit the s OS button. Yeah, been like got

1148
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: a bear down, send in the chopper. Yeah. I think

1149
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: Garman would have loved that. Well, they would have sent it.

1150
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: They would have just charge me about thirty grand. Uh. Yeah,

1151
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: we could have airlifted that bear. Well. Um hey, that's

1152
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: that's our story. So check out check out the Barony

1153
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: Magazine YouTube channel and you'll see a video titled Cheap

1154
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: Hunt of the South. I love the video to me

1155
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: is it's one of my I mean, I always think,

1156
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you always like a video that you know

1157
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: that you're making. But it's a good it's a good video.

1158
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: It's got some good action in it. Yeah, shows shows

1159
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 1: all a sign. I think somebody could watch it and

1160
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: probably learn something. But also it shows a great traditional

1161
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: archery kill from the ground, which is kind of cool. Yeah. Well,

1162
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: and then in the newest issue of the magazine, you

1163
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: have what a lot of photos of the bear sign

1164
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: that you saw and yeah, yeah, yeah, November December issue

1165
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: of Barony Magazine, there's an there's an article titled the

1166
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,439
Speaker 1: best bear Sign for Hounty the Eastern Deciduous for Us

1167
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: And all those pictures came from that hunt. Yeah, and

1168
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: a and a scouting trip. Well, when I was up

1169
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 1: there on September the three. So if you get Barony magazine,

1170
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: which you should every stink in one of you should

1171
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: subscribe to Bear Honey Magazine, do us a favor. But

1172
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: if you read that, if you see that article, you'll know, hey,

1173
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: Clay took those pictures on September three and October three,

1174
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: because that's when I was up there and then that's

1175
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: when I came back. Yeah, and it seems like a

1176
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: pretty complete like capture of bear sign. You know, it's

1177
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: like you had some rolled stuff you had yellow jacket

1178
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: nest and then you know, just scout for here, you know,

1179
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 1: I mean like in the in the in different parts

1180
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: of the the eastern deciduous for us. There's other types of food,

1181
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: like there's beech nuts, there's uh, you know, I didn't

1182
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: get any pictures of I didn't get pictures of all

1183
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: the food. But just in terms of sign, scat, rolled rocks,

1184
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: rolled logs, dug up places, I'm considering that sign. Um.

1185
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: But boy, the best sign anywhere is scamp because you

1186
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: can get a time stamp on it. That's the one

1187
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 1: sign that you can really get a very good time stamp. Yeah,

1188
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: and you because you know the track is you know,

1189
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: you can get a time stamp, but not a great

1190
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: time stamp. The rolled log is not much of a

1191
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: time stamp at all. Yeah. But yeah, that's where your

1192
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: inner child comes out. You get to poke at it

1193
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: with a stick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you do. You got to.

1194
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: You gotta see how fresh it is, see how fresh

1195
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: it is. Well, um man, that's what uh, that's what

1196
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: I've got. And uh, hey thanks for checking out Barony

1197
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: Magazine podcast. I believe even the next podcast is probably

1198
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: gonna be about our new Mexico Hunt. Yeah with straight

1199
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 1: sudo and really downd hunt on mules. But closing thoughts, Kobe,

1200
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think we're I think about

1201
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: the Flashy Mule Flashy hat series. Yeah, that Bear dash

1202
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: Hunting dot Com. Give us some feedback. Yeah, we got

1203
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: three very unique different hat styles that I think people

1204
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: are gonna like, some really cool colors inside of it. Yeah,

1205
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 1: it's cool. We we might, we might branch out into

1206
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: some other some other things maybe with it. If you're

1207
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: just some cool designs, So check that out and keep

1208
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: the wild places wild because that's where the bears live