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Speaker 2: The Chiefs find that newest backup quarterback to Patrick Mahomes. Today,

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Speaker 2: they agreed to send a twenty twenty seven sixth round

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Speaker 2: draft pick to the Jets to acquire Justin Fields. Fields

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Speaker 2: wanted to continue his career in Kansas City, although there

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Speaker 2: were other teams interested in acquiring him. Per Adam Schefter,

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Speaker 2: to facilitate the trade, the Jets are paying seven million

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Speaker 2: of the ten million dollars guaranteed contract of twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Kansas City will play the remaining three million. Mahomes is

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Speaker 2: rehabbing after having surgery in December to repair a torrent

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Speaker 2: ACL and an LCL in his left knee. O Joe,

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Speaker 2: we were talking about this because the reports had come

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Speaker 2: out that the Chiefs were possibly interested in Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Now that we know they're going away from Usel Wilson

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Speaker 2: and turn into Justin Fields.

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Speaker 1: You like this? Are you surprised by this? What are

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Speaker 1: your thoughts about this?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of like it because I'll go

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Speaker 3: back to what did Justin Fields look like when he's

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Speaker 3: with the Pittsburgh Steelers. What does it looks like when

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Speaker 3: he had an actual starting job.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to.

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Speaker 3: Base anything a small symbitize what we saw Justin Fields

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Speaker 3: with New York Jets, because nobody does well over there.

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Speaker 4: Nobody does well.

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Speaker 3: Over there because if from from top to bottom, it's

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Speaker 3: not run the right way. But what is the Steelers?

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Speaker 3: A competent organization that is used to winning. Obviously, he

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Speaker 3: looked somewhat good until Russell Wilson got healthy and then

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Speaker 3: he had to come. He had he had to sit down.

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Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, Justin Field went foreign too in

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Speaker 3: the sick game that he did start. So I think

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Speaker 3: with Andy Reid and Beene me and some of the

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Speaker 3: some of the weapons they do have over there, if

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Speaker 3: Justin Fields has to be the quarterback until Pax Mahomes

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Speaker 3: is healthy, I'm okay with that because I understand what

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Speaker 3: he will look like when he has the right supporting cast.

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Speaker 1: So writing yeah, I mean, I like Andy loves mobile quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Remember what he did.

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Speaker 2: Donovan was mobile, but then he got Michael Vick, who

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Speaker 2: was even more mobile. Than Donovan mcnow and he has

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Speaker 2: success with that, so I'm not surprised. Obviously, Patrick Justin

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Speaker 2: Fields is a lot more mobile than Patrick Mahomes, and

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Speaker 2: he's gonna be a lot more mobile than Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: coming off this knee injury. But I agree with what

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Speaker 2: you had to say is that given this system, Andy's

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Speaker 2: quarterback whisper for the quarterbacks, it's hard for me to

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Speaker 2: see that if Justin Fields has to play two three

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Speaker 2: games that he won't have a level of success. Understanding that,

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Speaker 2: you know, hey, they do a great job of making

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Speaker 2: sure you get the ball out of your hands quick.

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Speaker 1: They were on a lot of jailbreak screens.

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Speaker 2: They believe they can run the ball a lot better

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Speaker 2: to take some pressure off of the passing game. That's

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Speaker 2: why they went out and signed Kenneth Walker K nine

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Speaker 2: in free agency to relieve some of the passing game pressure.

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Speaker 2: Because the Asthmahomes to drop back and continually to throw throw, throw,

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Speaker 2: you're putting him, You're putting yourself in her way.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're done yet, Ojo.

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Speaker 2: They got they got a top fifteen pick, and they

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Speaker 2: got the twenty ninth pick from the Rams. They got

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Speaker 2: two first round picks, don't know quite know the direction

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Speaker 2: that they're going to head in in those Do they

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Speaker 2: trade both of those picks and move into the top

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Speaker 2: ten top five? I'm not sure about that, but I

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Speaker 2: kind of like this. But I will say this, if

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Speaker 2: he can't have success here, where can he have success

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Speaker 3: Well, listen if going to Kansas City, if you look

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Speaker 3: at the starting quarterbacks and obviously the backups that have

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Speaker 3: And Andy Reid want to come not calling him the

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Speaker 3: quarterback whisper, but all quarterbacks he's worked with in coach,

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Speaker 3: they've all had success. So I expect him because of

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Speaker 4: Around him to have success.

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Speaker 3: And what I like about him is he can throw

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Speaker 3: to play to his strengths to make sure he can

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what you're gonna have to do.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, Defensively, we'll see what they gonna do defensive If

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Speaker 2: They restructure Schnelle contract, they'll probably do something with Jones' contract.

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Speaker 1: Defensively, they're not the same.

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Speaker 2: They don't get out there, they don't attack the quarterback

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Speaker 2: the same way they once did. They're not that Spag

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Speaker 2: still wants the pressure. When he feels threatened you get

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Speaker 2: teams were prepared for that, and they made them pay

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Speaker 2: for some of that this year.

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Speaker 1: But I like this Justin Fields.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully he can figure it out, because look, we throw

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Speaker 2: the best pieces around him. Okay, we're gonna throw our Chicago.

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Speaker 2: At some point in time, we got to stop throwing

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Speaker 2: just dirty. We can't just keep throwing our bathward if

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Speaker 2: not a baby dirty. And in this situation, at some

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Speaker 2: point in time, we're gonna have to say, hey, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to put some of this on. Justin Fields,

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Speaker 2: I agree. I think the Jets. I don't think the

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Speaker 2: some things that he could have done better understand protection

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Speaker 2: well enough, thoughtful enough as a quarterback just say hell nah,

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Speaker 2: y'all lis in this, no rip this, Hey, I want

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Speaker 2: in because I'm right hand the quarterback. But at some

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Speaker 2: point in time, O Joe, we gotta start holding these

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Speaker 2: players accountable. We can't keep blaming organization, organization, organization. There

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Speaker 2: are some bad run organizations. I will conceive that, but

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Speaker 2: you can't go to fifteen organizations and says every last

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Speaker 2: one of them are run poorly. At some point in time,

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Speaker 2: you're not doing you're not doing your job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, And I could only base it off

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Speaker 3: what he did as the last organization was at where

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Speaker 4: Obviously, I don't have to look over my shoulder.

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Speaker 3: Finally I get a team where don't have to worry

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Speaker 4: But Unfortunately that.

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Speaker 3: Job was the New York Jets, and I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: when the last time they've actually had success because top

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Speaker 4: Know how it is. I don't need to say anything.

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Speaker 3: I mean no disrespect, you know, to anyone that plays

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Speaker 4: But it is what it is. It is what it is.

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Speaker 3: So justin Fields, seeing what he looked like when he's

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Speaker 3: with the Steelers with a competent organization that has run

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Speaker 3: the correct way from top to bottom, I saw what

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Speaker 3: he looked like, the small semmitide we saw with him there.

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Speaker 3: I know exactly what he's going to give you when

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Speaker 3: he's with the Kansas City Chiefs, and.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't take much because Andy's system is very quarterback freely.

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Speaker 2: You look at the success that Alex Smith had in

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Speaker 2: you look at Michael Vick in that system. You look

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Speaker 2: at my homeboy, and that Mahome brother an outlier, so

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Speaker 2: he gonna look good in any system.

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Speaker 1: That's Patrick Mahome.

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Speaker 2: He's a you could make a case that he's a

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Speaker 2: top five, top six quarterback as we currently sit here

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Speaker 2: and speak O Joe. So he's an outliner. But if

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Speaker 2: you look at other quarterbacks, Alex Smith was mobile.

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Speaker 1: People. I mean, I know, you know, you look at it.

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Speaker 1: He was mobile. Ooe. You watching in San Francisco and

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Speaker 1: how he can move.

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Speaker 2: They would move the pocket with Alex Smith. You look

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Speaker 2: He was very, very mobile. And so I think hopefully

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields can have this level of success.

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Speaker 1: And and you see what uh he did.

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Speaker 2: Andy came there and you got my homes and then

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Speaker 2: Allie Smith was able to go to the commanders and

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Speaker 2: and you know he ended up messing up his leg.

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Speaker 2: But hopefully Justin Fields can have this level of success.

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Speaker 2: I thought he could be good. Watching him at Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: sometimes you get a false sense because when you got

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Speaker 2: five six first round wide receivers O Hoke, you get

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Speaker 2: a little false system.

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Speaker 1: Like what damn is he that good? But you know,

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Speaker 1: we look at what he was throwing to.

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Speaker 2: He got a lobby, and he got Garrett Wilson, and

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Speaker 2: you know he got all those guys like, well damn,

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Speaker 2: but he's gonna he's going to have to play better

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Speaker 2: because I agree, I think oh Jo people are more

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Speaker 2: in your camp. The justs a bad situation. Chicago didn't

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Speaker 2: in the right direction. Yes, but they never committed. They

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Speaker 2: Russell gets healthy, this is still justin field job. He

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Speaker 2: considering how well feels.

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Speaker 1: Way, but this is an insurance policy.

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Speaker 2: It only cost him three million dollars the Jets picking up,

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Speaker 2: you know, seven million dollars of that of the ten

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Speaker 2: million that he's guaranteed, and so hopefully it works out

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Speaker 2: for him this time around.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, listen, that's a good team to be around too.

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Speaker 3: That's that's a good team to be around obviously, that atmosphere,

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Speaker 3: that winning atmosphere, and being able to learn behind the

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Speaker 3: homes once he does get back, just.

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Speaker 4: In case the opportunity presents itself again, but.

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Speaker 3: Justin Field's be the quarterback of a team somewhere else,

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Speaker 3: just just being able to take some of the attributes

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Speaker 3: that he's learned from my homes and and that system

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Speaker 3: will will be tremendous for him.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Go Joe, you know this now,

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Speaker 1: If you don't do well in and his system, they gonna.

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Speaker 3: Say, yeah, it gets tough there, it gets tough. After that,

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Speaker 3: it gets it gets real tough, it gets real slim

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Speaker 3: after that.

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Speaker 2: Man, Hold Joe, give you put this up. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna put this up. I feel bad.

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Speaker 1: Too, feel bad for who Joe? What happened?

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Speaker 4: He up there at the game by himself. He wasn't

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Speaker 4: by himself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 4: Hold on, Yeah, I'm gonna let you. I'm gonna let you.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna let you argue with the mother of my child.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, Donzi, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Somebody.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna let you argue with.

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Speaker 2: I ain't no arguing at the chat. Oh you see,

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, this this don't need to be no discussion.

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe know his he knows with all his kid's birthday,

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Speaker 1: Of town all.

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Speaker 4: What how you gonna tell her what to do?

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Speaker 1: What she told you what to do?

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Speaker 4: If she said I need you here today, I'm here today.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well so what But oh Joe, you had made plans.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I don't give a funk about no plans. If

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Speaker 1: You should have did what you should have did that

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Speaker 4: I talked to Joe already. What are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: I talked to Joe earlier today.

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Speaker 1: Now, y'all, don't piss me up.

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Speaker 4: But my goddamn child, it's her birthday.

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, Oh Joe, how you getting ticked off because

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Speaker 3: For a Mom said, man, I send that man his

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Speaker 3: money for a ticket. Y'all acting like it's that goddamn serious.

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Speaker 3: I said, it's my child birthday.

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Speaker 1: Anybody don't like it?

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Speaker 3: You know what the if you could do? Now, that's

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Speaker 3: the last time say about it.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I know, I know.

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Speaker 3: I play around a lot. My child birthday is tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: I have to get on the flight at nine am. Therefore,

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Speaker 3: Mama asked me to stay in town today till to

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Speaker 4: That's all.

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Speaker 1: That's all.

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Speaker 3: Oh Joe, that's all I talked. Wait and no, let

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Speaker 3: me finish. I talked to Joe earlier today. I say, Joe,

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be able to make it because I

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Speaker 4: They moved what she had to do up because she

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Speaker 4: has to prepare for a tennis tournament this weekend. That's all.

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Speaker 3: Now, we make it a little bit more complicated than

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Speaker 3: we should, and it's a serious matter. You're telling me

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Speaker 1: You the one that recommended you go to the game.

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Speaker 1: He didn't subject to the game. Okay, are saying you

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Speaker 1: So why.

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Speaker 2: No one is saying, oh Joe, oh Joe, Now, how

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Speaker 3: Game when you when you when you have something to

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Speaker 3: do important? Do I say anything?

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Speaker 4: No, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't. So

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Speaker 4: why y'all making it a big thing?

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Speaker 1: O Joe?

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Speaker 4: But hey, hey, something we talk about that, we talk

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Speaker 4: about a basketball game?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ojo? But here this is why in chat. Now

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Speaker 2: you're understand. This is why I don't commit, because things

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Speaker 2: people say, Shannon, can you do this, Shannon, can you

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Speaker 2: things going on that I don't know. So even though

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Speaker 1: Up just like that, and I can't. I can't afford it.

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Speaker 3: And somebody to do something that not back out of it,

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Speaker 3: that had nothing to do anything at all right now,

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Speaker 4: Hey, I need you here for your child's birthday. We

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Speaker 4: got to move it up.

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Speaker 3: Her birthday is tomorrow, so we had to move there

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Speaker 3: because I got fly Why you couldn't move it back?

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Speaker 4: Moving back?

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Speaker 1: Where the birthday? What is the birthday?

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Speaker 3: How about her birthday is tomorrow? Okay, so I'm not

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Speaker 4: My flights, my flights at nine in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Hello, oh Joe, Okay, how about this here?

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Speaker 1: Birthday?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 3: Hold on, hey, matter of fact, matter of fact, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna give you your number so you could explain to

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Speaker 3: her to do all this because because because we're making

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Speaker 3: it more than what it really is we tell about

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Speaker 3: the basketball game, you act like I'm I'm supposed to

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Speaker 3: be at a goddamn white house or something.

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe, come.

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Speaker 5: Oh chow, happy birthday.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I was just saying, Oh Jo, comebo bad.

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Speaker 2: But I understand, Oh Joe, I understand I talking to

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Speaker 2: about I.

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Speaker 3: Don't play when it come to my kids. I don't

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Speaker 3: care what I got to do. I don't I don't care.

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Speaker 3: And anybody don't like it. You know what time it is.

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Speaker 3: I mean no disrespect, no, no disrespect to the chat

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Speaker 3: and and and you. I'm just saying some people trying

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Speaker 3: to make jokes and he he ha ha he he

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Speaker 1: Hell Chad, what y'all think of chat? Y'all left? He

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Speaker 4: Hey, how you still going?

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Speaker 2: That's about a fact? That about a fact. Give me,

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Speaker 2: give me, give me a child, give me a co

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Speaker 2: parent number. I would have talked to her calling me call. No, No,

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Speaker 2: we don't need to talk.

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Speaker 1: We to go. We fit to move on.

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Speaker 2: Andre Hopkins says he felt underutilized this season, especial in

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Speaker 2: the red zone. First, a Ravens fan tweeted his one

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Speaker 2: hand the care in Week one versus the bill, saying,

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Speaker 2: a deal to bring DeAndre Hopkins back to Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: What a catch this was.

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Speaker 2: In response, d Hopkins says, how many times after this

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Speaker 2: do you think I was used in the red zone

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Speaker 2: when targeted? I'm still one of the best, still one

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Speaker 2: of the most productive. But never complain with my snaps

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Speaker 2: and never will facts. D Howp Who's thirty three, finished

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Speaker 2: the season with twenty two catches, three hundred and thirty

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Speaker 4: Oh yoe, I hate that. I hate when they do

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Speaker 4: this to us.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead, talk to you.

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Speaker 4: I hate when they do this to us. A chat.

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Speaker 3: I hate when you when you reach your thirties. As

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Speaker 3: great as DeAndre Hopkins was, as as much as what

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Speaker 3: I know he can he can do and provide for offense,

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Speaker 3: it comes to making contested catches. All you got to

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Speaker 4: Once you hit your thirties on they continue to weed

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Speaker 3: I mean, it happened to it happened to all of us.

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Speaker 3: I'm Julio Jones. You know, I can go down the

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Speaker 4: And that's the way they weed you out in general.

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Speaker 3: And at some point it's going to come to a

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Speaker 4: Left for you.

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you know this. Once you start going every

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Speaker 2: year is year to year. You're only gonna be there

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Speaker 2: one year. Yeah, the likelihood of them bringing you back.

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Speaker 2: You saw what happened. He went to Kansas City, and

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Speaker 2: he went over here, and he went over there. He

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Speaker 2: stay for an extended period of time. Just says, loll

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Speaker 2: you know what, I'm a high gun.

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Speaker 1: I'm here.

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Speaker 2: One is a temp service. Anybody that's in the chat

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Speaker 2: these teams temporarily. They're not looking for DeAndre Hopkins to

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Speaker 2: and I don't have any reason to believe that he can't,

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Speaker 2: but I'm saying they're not going to give you those

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Speaker 2: after the time in which you are there, which is

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Speaker 2: basically the football season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I hate that.

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Speaker 1: It is what Oh Joe, that's what it is.

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Speaker 3: And I know, I know, I hate the way that

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Speaker 4: I hate that. I hate that.

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Speaker 3: If you give him the opportunities like he had when

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Speaker 3: But obviously it's the winning the business does most of them.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they will ever be the Joe.

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Speaker 2: They don't do that. But they don't do that to Dante.

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Speaker 2: They don't put him in position like he was in

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Speaker 2: Green Bay because this Pooka's team. Oh yeah, yeah, Oh,

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Speaker 2: they're not gonna put him in that. Because even though

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Speaker 2: whatever the case, he's their number one receiver. He's getting

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Speaker 2: but he's gonna get fourth Priday. So at best case,

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Speaker 2: pielth thoption. You already know the philth thoption. Yo, you

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Speaker 3: A very seldom, very seldom. But why even bring him

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Speaker 3: in on why even why even bring him in?

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Speaker 4: It makes no sense to me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they know they're not gonna use him in

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Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't think you.

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Speaker 2: Look, he's saying, use him in the red zone, and

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Speaker 2: I think he still can be a valuable, a viable

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Speaker 1: The ball and when they do throw it in. I

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Speaker 2: I mean, Lamar missed him a few times, but for

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Speaker 2: the most part, they're not putting him in situations where

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Speaker 2: He's never been a guy that had blinding speed, so

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Speaker 2: he's even less fast than he was when he came

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Speaker 2: into the league. But he still has great hands. He

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Speaker 2: give me in the red zone, give me some opportunities.

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Speaker 2: Let me high point the ball, back shouldered me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all those things I can still do at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe, I say, and this is the difference between

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Speaker 3: the Ravens offense and how you mentioned Devonte Adams, right, Yeah,

443
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 3: he led the NFL in touchdowns. If I'm mistaken. Yeah,

444
00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,560
Speaker 3: well yes, yes, they throw the ball so much over there,

445
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,359
Speaker 3: and Devontae Adams is still so good, obviously still the best.

446
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,919
Speaker 3: He's actually still the best route running the league. Obviously

447
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,400
Speaker 3: throwing mon Ross Saint Brown in there as well, who's

448
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,680
Speaker 3: mainly in the slot, but when it comes to outside

449
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 3: receivers and it comes to running around, Devonte is still

450
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 3: that guy, which is why his numbers looked at why

451
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 3: they did, and they throw the ball so got there

452
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 3: much over there in LA. So I think that that

453
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 3: that also it kind of hurts being the fifth option

454
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 3: down there in Baltimore.

455
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 2: It does. But plus you look at Matthew Stafford. How

456
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 2: many back shoulders has he thrown to Calvin Johnson? So

457
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,880
Speaker 2: now he gets a guy that's not as big as

458
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 2: Calvin Johnson but can throw the.

459
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 1: Back shoulder gets automatic.

460
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 2: Davante is one of the back shoulders, best back shoulder

461
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:44,119
Speaker 2: catcher at all of footballers, and you can't stop it.

462
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 2: So if you're behind him, he's gonna throw it over

463
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,920
Speaker 2: the top. If you own top of me, gonna throw

464
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,439
Speaker 2: it behind you. So I'm like you're like, okay, well

465
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 2: that coach, what you want me to do? And like

466
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 2: you said, he's still an elite rote runner. Yes, done,

467
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 2: and uh but it's a but they they are two

468
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 2: different receivers. People don't look at People still believe that

469
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 2: the divante. That's why he's making max dollars. He's making

470
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five million dollars a year, twenty million dollars

471
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 2: a year, because they still believe he's a viable option

472
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 2: that at worst case scenario, he can be a two,

473
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,400
Speaker 2: possibly a one if Pooka goes out. Remember at Jacksonville

474
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 2: O show, he had three touchdowns. How many games we

475
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 2: see him with three two touchdowns? He I mean he

476
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,360
Speaker 2: got fourteen touchdowns and he missed a couple of games.

477
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 2: He's still the guy. He's still he's a Some guys

478
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 2: are just touchdown magnets, t O and.

479
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: Randy That, Chris Carter, Jerry, those guys.

480
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 2: I give another guy, Antonio Gates. Man, I can never

481
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 2: call like Gates.

482
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean like, I'm like, damn, I said, man,

483
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 1: I'll be watching Gates.

484
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, damn, I had retired when he became

485
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 2: what he became, and I'm looking at him and like, damn.

486
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 2: They getting the ball down in the rep They get

487
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 2: down to the team they thought it to it and

488
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 2: they're like, we'll go get over option away. They run

489
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 2: zorro route, they run options, they won stick, they run choice.

490
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, damn, but some guys can just score,

491
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 2: have that ability to just score the damn football. They

492
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 2: have that ability. O Joe, you and I were yardage guys.

493
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 2: We're gonna get yardish. We might have six for a

494
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 2: buck twinty and no touchdown. Somebody else go come along

495
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 2: and have three for seventy five and two touchdowns. But

496
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 2: but that's the way it is. I know he's he's frustrated.

497
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 2: Uh but once you start bouncing around, O Joe's in

498
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 2: Kansas City, and you remember he was at the he

499
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 2: was in Tennessee and now he's in Baltimore and that

500
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: it's just it's just a matter if I'm him and

501
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 2: I want to and I want to, you know, stay.

502
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,959
Speaker 4: In the league, would you hang would you hang it out?

503
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: Not complaining?

504
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 4: Well, he never complained before. He don't even hell d hop.

505
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: Don't even talk. That's what I'm saying.

506
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 3: He unless you know him personally and you actually have

507
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 3: a conversation with him. Here remind me of Troy Polamalu

508
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 3: or remind me of Chris Henry. You know, God got

509
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 3: rest in peace individuals that play the game, and you

510
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 3: never ever hit him talk. I think the last time

511
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 3: I heard the hop talk is seeing him in person.

512
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 3: And then obviously when him and God damn D'Angelo Hall

513
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 3: got into it was that hard.

514
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that practice.

515
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 4: That's oh man, that's the first time I ever heard

516
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 4: of the talk.

517
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: So it looks.

518
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 2: I think the wide receivers in that type of a system,

519
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: the likelihood of them have it. Oh Jo, They're not

520
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: about to have no, ten twelve touchdowns like you see

521
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: Davonte in some of these other receivers. That's that's not

522
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 2: their offense. Their offense is not like that. It's a

523
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: spread it around offense.

524
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:49,239
Speaker 1: You know.

525
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 2: The tight ends might have between the two of them

526
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: might have seven eight touchdowns between the two of them,

527
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: they might have four or five touchdowns. The back's gonna

528
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 2: have a couple of touchdowns. But that they're not They're

529
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: not a guy. They're not like Davonte gonna have eight

530
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: one guy gonna have eighteen touchdowns. Yeah, I mean, that's

531
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: that's not that's not their offense. And there's nothing wrong

532
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: with that, because if you think it had been interesting

533
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 2: to see, give me a when Lamar had forty one touchdowns.

534
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: Let's see the distribution of what it was spread out,

535
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 2: cause you know, hey, somebody's gonna have when somebody when

536
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: the quarterback throws for a bunch of touchdowns, somebody's gonna

537
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 2: have fifteen, somebody gonna have fourteen, fifteen to eighteen. You

538
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 2: look at when when you remember, oh Joe, remember Joe

539
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: Burrow a couple of years ago when we called it

540
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 2: we lady Lee Chase had seventeen seventeen. Yeah, hey, you

541
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 2: ain't gonna fit to have those two guys with seventeen

542
00:24:52,240 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 2: the quarterback gonna throw for seventy touchdowns? Then, yeah, so

543
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: Andrews had eleven, Bateman had nine, likely had six.

544
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 3: Wait, Bateman had nine last year. Yeah, oh that was

545
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 3: a mean that was a quiet nine.

546
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah damn.

547
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 2: So you see one guy double figures, one got almost

548
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: in double figures, and then you have eleven, nine, six, four,

549
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: and then it spread out dumped down to the running back.

550
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 2: You know, henrybody had two and then Mitchell might have

551
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: had one or two something like that. So I look,

552
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 2: I get it. I get it, Ah, I get this

553
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: frustration in our minds. We're the last We're the last

554
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 2: one to see it, O Joe. We're absolutely the last

555
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 2: one to see it. Starts to dissipate. We still were

556
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 2: still holding on. We still remember what we used to be, Ojo.

557
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

558
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 3: But but but then you know what, even if he's

559
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 3: a shell of himself, that shell of himself is still good.

560
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,239
Speaker 1: Yeah it is.

561
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 4: It's still good, and you mentally, you feel like you

562
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 4: can still do it. You just understand.

563
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 3: Just give me the opportunities, Yes, just give me the opportunities.

564
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 3: Why bring me in and not use me? What am

565
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 3: I doing here? Veteran presence leadership?

566
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 1: Yep?

567
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: Come on, you got you got. I don't want I

568
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 3: don't want to steal money. I want to earn what

569
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 3: you're paying me.

570
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 2: Hey, oh Joe, you know we get older. You know

571
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 2: your boy used to ad put the hammer down. You

572
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, the baby put the hammer down

573
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 2: on your No, I'll be sweating for no reason. This

574
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 2: damn Like Yeah, I mean you know.

575
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: What I'm saying on Yo. You know, Hey, it happens

576
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: with you youther? Hey, how they getting up? They're cleaning up?

577
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: The house.

578
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 2: They washing a load of clothes. What damn y'all got

579
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: that gota?

580
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was frowled.

581
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: Hey, oh Joe, they got crime scene tape around me?

582
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: They don't. They washed two loads of cloth. They come

583
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 2: up there cooking, they do it.

584
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 4: Oh man, I know I ain't the only way, y'all laughing.

585
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: I know I ain't only what chat I just say it.

586
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: I mean lay it on, y'all like who it ain't

587
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: used to be like the low.

588
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: Troy Aiateman thinks one rude designed to reduce wear and

589
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 2: tear on the players' bodies maybe actually caused some of

590
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: the injuries. Back then, you did two a day's that

591
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 2: kind of heat to a day after day after they

592
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 2: two practices and full pass.

593
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: No restriction problem.

594
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 2: For the better, the players aren't as taxed as they were,

595
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 2: but Aikman added that there is a trade off. Players

596
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: aren't physically prepared to start the season. But some of

597
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 2: it we have to do a lot with The reason

598
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: I think so many injuries, especially early in the year,

599
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: a lot of soft tissue injuries, a lot of muscle

600
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 2: pulls and things of that nature, is that the players

601
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 2: are just not able to train the way they was there,

602
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 2: they're not able to callase their bodies as easily now.

603
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: That they're in.

604
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 2: The training is hard all the time, all that, but

605
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: it's different training on your own as opposed to being

606
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: on the football field and practice the football movements. Oh, Joe,

607
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: you would not been saying that now, see any we've

608
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 2: been saying that.

609
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, same thing, same thing. He just said it in

610
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 4: a different way.

611
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: You know.

612
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 4: Obviously I think they we they don't train enough.

613
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 3: Again, he used the word I always use about being

614
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: able to callus the body, being able to call us

615
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: the body, so it's able to withstand going.

616
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 4: From zero to one hundred on game day.

617
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: As opposed to the way practices are, they be out

618
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: they I mean they be half asseding joke. I mean, no,

619
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 3: no disrespect to the to the way things are right now.

620
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean call a spade of spade.

621
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 4: It is what it is.

622
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: I don't think they practice the same way we used

623
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: to practice back then.

624
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 4: Obviously, injuries are going to happen, injines are.

625
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 3: Gonna happen, but at there happening now at an alarming rate,

626
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 3: and it has to be something something to it. I

627
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: think it maybe what they do in the off season. Uh,

628
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 3: maybe what they do in training camp, maybe it's not enough.

629
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 4: But I mean with the.

630
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: Way they they've asked for a little bit more leniency

631
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: when it comes to the hours that are spending on

632
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: the practice field.

633
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 4: I mean this is what you get in a sense.

634
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I'm just firm believable.

635
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: I agree with Troy about our bodies were a lot

636
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: more callous because we did a lot more in the beginning.

637
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: You know, we would put you on the ground, but

638
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: then you still thud it up. As we kind of

639
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: moved towards got towards the middle nineties and things of

640
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: that nature, we thuded up. We didn't really take it

641
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: to the ground. But your body's got used to that.

642
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: You asked these guys to go fifty miles an hour

643
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: all week long, and then comes some then go one hundred.

644
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: I don't you. You've got the test. You've got to

645
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: put that car to the test at some point in time.

646
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: You got open it up for yo to see what

647
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: to do.

648
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

649
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: But they go out there, let's meet, let's walk through,

650
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: let's meet, let's walk through.

651
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: Ain't no damn meeting to walk through on Sunday.

652
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: You got to put your You got to put your

653
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: body under the gun. If you want the body, if

654
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: you want the body to respond to a certain nuke stimuli,

655
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: you gotta put the body under that stimuli.

656
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't get it, but that, you know.

657
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: But they wanted they want to do hot knee and

658
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: a skips and b stick skips and they want.

659
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: To do all that.

660
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 2: And I get it. On you, I get it, but

661
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: come on, now, you play football football put wearing on

662
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: your body.

663
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does.

664
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: They put helmet on you, they put pads on you. Hey,

665
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: they tackle your ass to the ground. And that nice

666
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: speed and that high knee action. I get all that,

667
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: but what good is that on your If your body

668
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: as soon as somebody hit you, you shadow like ice hit

669
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: the floor.

670
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: Hey, listen.

671
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 6: That's why they talk about It's kind of the same

672
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 6: thing in basketball. That's why they're talking about, Man, we

673
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 6: need to cut the cut it down. Yeah, but they

674
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 6: ain't gonna take ten games with the salary off. There

675
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 6: we go, there we go, there we go. So you know,

676
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 6: I agree with y'all, though I just think, like, like,

677
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 6: like Troy said that their body is not as callous,

678
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 6: you know, as it was back in the day, like, bro,

679
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 6: this is all we did. And yeah, like nowadays all

680
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 6: you see is walk throughs and play time and practice

681
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 6: and then like you say, when game time come, now

682
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 6: you gotta rive it up to this height that you

683
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 6: ain't accustomed to get into and this is what causes

684
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 6: the injuries.

685
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: Mm.

686
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just I mean, shit was live. I mean

687
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: we hit during the week. Nine on seven was real.

688
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: We were pass I mean we had pads on Wednesday

689
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: and Thursday and you had on shorts and show the

690
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: paths on Friday.

691
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: That was my first three years. That was my first

692
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: three years.

693
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: Even seven O seven O joke they thunded it wasn't

694
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: no guys touch you on the waist now, oh no, no, sir.

695
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: Hey, you called a comeback and you caught something.

696
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: The DBS came in there putting that putting them pads

697
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: on you squam up. Yeah yeah, end of that contact.

698
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: But now that's not and look I get it, it's

699
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: a different time now. I think coach Sabing, I mean

700
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: maybe those old school college coaches did like what we

701
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: did in the nineties coming along because Bill David Say

702
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: Bulljie Bro. We was out there two and a half

703
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: hours and we were getting it. And y'all know, if

704
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: you in the South, you know it's hot. It's hot, hot,

705
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: and somebody pass out.

706
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: Move move to power. They tend to win back there.

707
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: We move up to If he got hurt on the

708
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: defensive side, we moved back twenty yards. If he hurd

709
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: on the offense side, we moved up ten yards. But

710
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: you're not finished. Stop yeah the show, no man, we

711
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: have guys having seizures. He's gonna be okay. Ain't gonna

712
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: be okay, dude, bomb at the mob and everything. Oh Joe,

713
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: we ain't start no practice, break a leg or something.

714
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: Breaker arm, You ain't no practice.

715
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 4: No hey, hey, are we gonna come patch you on

716
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 4: the helmet?

717
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: You're okay?

718
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 4: Time you make sure you're good that that whistleblow?

719
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 6: Hey Yeah, y'all had teammates come in today, they play

720
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 6: a sharp a ocha. I ain't got it today. I'm

721
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 6: from fake man injury today. I ain't got it to day,

722
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 6: No Joe.

723
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: My first year, we did have a lot of guys because,

724
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: like I said, Coach Davis told us the first day

725
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: we met, we met.

726
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: We had a big old meeting.

727
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: Coach Davison, I got sixty sixty five uniforms top. We

728
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: had one hundred and ten guys. Coach Davison, I gotta

729
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 2: trim the fat. I had never heard that saying before.

730
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

731
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: In other words, he only wanted to lean me all

732
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 2: that all that fact wasn't gonna be there. So the

733
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: first day, before we even started practice, we had thirty

734
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: minutes of running gases.

735
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 3: Oh wait, hold on sideline and sideline over was one over, back,

736
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: right over, back over.

737
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: We went all the way to seven twice. Then we

738
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 2: started practice with calistenics. Oh y'allka, and then we had

739
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: a two hour practice. Man, you have heard all them

740
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 2: cars cracking up in the middle of night, Joe, Joe,

741
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: all you heard was football.

742
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: And slab clue e triping.

743
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 6: That's a lot, hey boy, Look they remind me of college.

744
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: Man. Ain't never worked that hard in my life.

745
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 6: Yes, first a a the first four twenty five minutes

746
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 6: to an hour practice, you don't even touch a basketball.

747
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 6: It's straight conditioning. Okay, okay, I'm talking about straight conditioning,

748
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 6: medicine ball. I'm talking about We used to use a basketball,

749
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 6: but it was halfway field with water right like man,

750
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 6: you we had all type of he had all type.

751
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: Of mind game.

752
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 6: We were playing boll when you get to college, boy,

753
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 6: it got rial. But that's the But that's the thing.

754
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 6: So what you want us to do, you member?

755
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: The thing is is that growing up, oh yo week,

756
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: we didn't have people. I'm sure it did, but I

757
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: didn't hear about it. But we didn't have the media

758
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 2: like this. But you conditioned your body to the sun

759
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: till you was out in the sun. You worked in

760
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: the sun, you played in the sun all the time.

761
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: You wasn't on no video games. And then all of

762
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 2: a sudden, thanks, you gonna get your hands out there

763
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 2: and triple degree heat for two for five hours a day.

764
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna be okay.

765
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: You hadn't already conditioned your body to get used to that.

766
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: Little of heat, was ready for it.

767
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: Hey you, Hey, you get dehydrated, you get woozy.

768
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: Hey Bill, say go sit in front of the tree.

769
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: Hey, so you are right, come on, what don't you

770
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 2: just you were done for the rest of the practice.

771
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 2: You better sit your ass off for about five ten

772
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: minutes and get back in there. I'm look, it's it's

773
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: a different time now. I understand you can't practice like

774
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: that because when I was were still doing Oklahoma.

775
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: We did bully in.

776
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: The ring, We did half line, we did all that.

777
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: All that.

778
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 4: Hey, Joe, I used to do bullying the ring joke.

779
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: Hey, what's the bull bullying the ring?

780
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: That's the one where you lay down and hey, n

781
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 2: you put one guy in the ring and everybody else

782
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 2: circled around him, and everybody got to go. And he

783
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: just called the number, and you just got to keep turning,

784
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: riding around. You got to keep moving your feet. He

785
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 2: called a number, and that dude come and charger.

786
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you gotta stop.

787
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to anger. You got, Joe, You got

788
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 4: to anger that, Joey.

789
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm the bullet, I'm in the ring, Come on

790
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: with it.

791
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, God god, I used to do it, but I

792
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 4: used to do it with the DB's Yeah.

793
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,959
Speaker 3: You know, you know, physicality wasn't my wasn't my strong suit.

794
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: You know, being strong wasn't my strong suit, Joe.

795
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: But that god damn bullying the ring. To get right now,

796
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 4: I ain't had no choice about to get right, Joe.

797
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 4: I had no choice. I had to had to ankle down,

798
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 4: I had anchor down.

799
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 3: But I'd be the first one to tell you, boy,

800
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: that was not my strength work at all, Like like, no, lie.

801
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: What you look like in that bull of the ring

802
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: when it came to DB's in safety to me, I'll

803
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 2: make them turn it down. I'll make them turn it

804
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: all the way down. Ask anybody at Savata State from

805
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six to nineteen eighty nine who beat sharp

806
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: and bullying the ring? Who be sharp in Oklahoma? I

807
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: make him turn it down that none of them seeing me,

808
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: none of them, not one one dude. He came from

809
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 2: a junior college talking, hey, because I showed up late.

810
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: I showed up late.

811
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: That because my senior year I showed him that I

812
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 2: already doesn't call coach david I said, Coach Davidson will

813
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: be late because I want to make an entrance. Oh, Joe,

814
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: I was choose him, now, you.

815
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. I was chilling about your boy. Yeah,

816
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: twenty seven. I probably showed up about five and a

817
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: half maybe six percent. By the fact.

818
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: I've been in the sun. So I'm in the sun.

819
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: This my skin right here, that's what I'm looking at.

820
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: You what I'm looking at, Joe, O, Joe, I've been

821
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 2: the sun.

822
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: Come along.

823
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 2: So when I get there, they said, Man, this guy,

824
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: this dB Sharp man, he talking crazy. I said what

825
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 2: he's saying? He said, man, Sharp ain't gonna get nothing

826
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: on me. He cannot run, he ain't strong as me,

827
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 2: and he can't out jump. I said, okay, first day, hey, Bill, say,

828
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: we're gonna see what we gonna see. How tough for

829
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: everybody else today. So we get to practice. We get

830
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: the practice. So I'm thinking, okay, we're gonna we're gonna

831
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: thud up and we're gonna do I.

832
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: Said, Coach Davis.

833
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: We can uh were catching it past the day cause

834
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: they say, hell no, homes, it's not cutting time. They

835
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 2: called a trainer. I said, come take my thumbs up.

836
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,479
Speaker 2: Because I didn't want to mess my thumbs up. I said,

837
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: take your thumbs up.

838
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm up first.

839
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 4: Oh for when you when you when you when you

840
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 4: grab in tight.

841
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm up first, yes, sir. So what he gotta do?

842
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: They blow the whistles, You back pedal, Hey snap, Hey,

843
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 2: you back pedal, and then come he back pedal Joe

844
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: O Joe, And like when he I had to come forward.

845
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: He slept just a little bit. And when he's by

846
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 2: the time he got ready to get up, I had

847
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 2: my knee in his chest.

848
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: So I picked his head with my knee and I

849
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: got it just like this here. Yeah, so all your

850
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: everybody hit me on my head. I said, I said, I'm.

851
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 4: Doing you're doing?

852
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 2: You say yeah to make a statement, Bro, you're not

853
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: finna how you you just got here?

854
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: Do you know? Bro?

855
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: You finn come in here and try to show and

856
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 2: talk records to me? Right, honestly, I tried to kill him.

857
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 2: I tried to put him through the ground. He ain't never,

858
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: he hain't never say anything else to me.

859
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 4: After that, there was a wrapper nothing but once she.

860
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: Said, I take anybody with the Savannah State, or know

861
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: somebody with the Savannah State that's go about Sean and

862
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: bullyting the Ring of Oklahoma.

863
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: M I guarantee you won't even say, man, man somebody

864
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: such or so.

865
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: I guarantee you won't find nobody to tell you they

866
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: beat me.

867
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: Why did m hm?

868
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 3: Hey, Joe was my favorite one. I wasn't good at

869
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 3: bulling the ring. But when it's time, when it's time

870
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 3: for one on one, you you don't got to you

871
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 3: ain't got to play off. Come on, come on up here, Joe, Hey, Joe,

872
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 3: I take a rep. Joe. Yeah, and with my repover

873
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: somebody else to go.

874
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 4: Normally it's TJ.

875
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: TJ would go, I jump right back in line, Joe,

876
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: I take I take all of one on one rep.

877
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 4: Joe, Hey, man, it was it was. It was so funny.

878
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 3: It's like I I enjoyed that was that was my

879
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 3: only time where I got to work with the number

880
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: one I got to work with the number one DVS

881
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 3: because obviously once you go to seven on seven and

882
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: you go to eleven e eleven, it's scout team. So

883
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: I and I wanted I wanted my number one DVS

884
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 3: that I would be facing you know, Jonathan, Joseph, Deltha, O'Neil, Tory, James,

885
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: you know, you know Dela.

886
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: I played with Delta, I played with Tory.

887
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: We did remember Jeff Verse, remember Jame right?

888
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah I didn't. I didn't play with him, but

889
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: Torri and Delta was with me in in Denver.

890
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, in Denver. Yeah yeah, Joe.

891
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: So that that was my time to get my best

892
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 3: work in Joe, because I don't get to see them

893
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: boys doing practice.

894
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, man, I'm talking about Joe.

895
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 3: I still if we if if if goddamn one on

896
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 3: one was ten minutes, Joe, I got about nine minutes

897
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 3: worth of one on one.

898
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: In the league.

899
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: When I was a wide receiver, we had a we

900
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: had a drill, so you had to like stalk, you know,

901
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: you tried to so they had a dummy back there,

902
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: so trying to start and he tried to push through

903
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: you to touch the dummy.

904
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

905
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: You know they like, man who gon go against sharp?

906
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: So you don't. I'm a rookie. You don't everybody like that.

907
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: I would go against the rookie. Yeah, I'm saying in

908
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: my head they think I'm so so you know, hey,

909
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: I stop and everything. I hold him off, and you

910
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: know I let him go and the dB he touched

911
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 2: the dummy. I say, nobody else will ever touch this dummy?

912
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

913
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: Ask I tell you what. Go ask anybody when I

914
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: was a wide receiver my rookie year, when from that

915
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 2: point on, did anybody ever touched that dummy again? Will you?

916
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 2: You would drag him to the ground off. You gotta

917
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 2: come through me to touch the dummy. You could do

918
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: whatever you want to do. You can shake and do

919
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: whatever you want.

920
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: You just go.

921
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: I just can't let you touch that dummy because the

922
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: dummy is the running back right.

923
00:43:53,120 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: You was doing security and then he got man because

924
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: what I did.

925
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: He shouldn't have touched the dummy because I had to

926
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 2: give up, and so we went a run of one drill.

927
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 2: I beat him and the uh you know what I

928
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: used to hurt?

929
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: Oh Joe?

930
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: When somebody clicked the back of your heel and it

931
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: tied you up and you fall.

932
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did that. It's on purpose. Mm hmm.

933
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 3: You failed in the helmet, did I?

934
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: I tried to slap his face mask off. Now you

935
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 2: did it on purpose. I know you did. I don't

936
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: play like.

937
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: You beat me.

938
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: I'm mad enough to say good job. Hey, wen, we

939
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 2: get an opportunity to do it again.

940
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: But I don't play that.

941
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 4: Cheap straight because you got beat.

942
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it happened. That's what you gotta realize. He

943
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: a pro to getting a check. Joe? He getting the check.

944
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, but don't don't don't do nothing dirty because hey,

945
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna stop. They end up get one of

946
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: us gotta go. I agree with Troy Ojo and Joe.

947
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: We don't catch. They don't count their bodies like we

948
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 2: once did. And you see a lot of these injury

949
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: You see a lot of hamstrings, you see a lot

950
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: of growings, you see a lot of calves, you see

951
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: a lot of soft tissues. Because your body isn't used

952
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: to that kind of torque under that kind of the rest.

953
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: You gotta get your body used to it. It's just

954
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: like anything.

955
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 2: If you want to go out there in the sun,

956
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: you just can't say, you know what, Ojo, Man, I'm

957
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 2: just gonna go out there in the sun that sun.

958
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: Don't play that dream now. But we I was used

959
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: to that. I worked outside my I've never had an

960
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: inside job until I retire from league.

961
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: All my jobs required me to.

962
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: Be If I have my black ass outside in the

963
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 2: sun and the cold, in the rain, it didn't matter.

964
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 2: So I was used to conditions and element. You ain't

965
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: used to it and say you know what, Yeah, I'm

966
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: gonna go out there and I'm a practice.

967
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna be one hundred degrees what.

968
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: And when we were in high school, Oh, Jo, y'all

969
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: had two days in high school? Yes, yes, yeh, he too,

970
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: So we have two days. I couldn't miss no work

971
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: because you know it was I wasn't no no, I

972
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: didn't have no salary.

973
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: Joe. You didn't show up to work. You did.

974
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 2: Day I told him, I say, hey, y'all want me

975
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 2: to play. Y'all need to have practice before I got

976
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: to go to work. I got to be to work

977
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: at seven o'clock. Just one time, we got practice five

978
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 2: fifteen or Shannon Sharp ain't coming because mayor Porter ain't

979
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 2: finna have me out here practicing and and missed and

980
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: missed this sixteen dollars work.

981
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, sir, no, sir, So you got a choice.

982
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: We can practice at five fifteen.

983
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: Hey, I get your good, get your good hour and

984
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: a half and I get to work at seven or

985
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: Shannon Sharp ain't coming. It's really that simple. I see

986
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 2: y'all come h whiting to see a start man, and

987
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 2: while we got a practice, while we got to practice

988
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: at five.

989
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: Fifteen because I'm him and you not.

990
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 6: That's why, straight up.

991
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

992
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: But there was them were the days on YO that

993
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: was like, hey, oh think about it. You go to

994
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 2: practice and then go to work at a young age

995
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: at lunch, then you go back to work and then

996
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: you got practice that evening. Yeah, man, please, oh Joe

997
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: check this out. Super Bowl Seahawks super Bowl champion Byron

998
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: Murphy was walking around with the Lombardi Trophy at his

999
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: wedding this weekend.

1000
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the video, y'all.

1001
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 4: Hey that Hey, that's dope.

1002
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: I think they.

1003
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: Started to treat the Lombardi Trophy like they do the

1004
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: Stanley Cup, where everybody get an opportunity to keep it

1005
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 2: for a day.

1006
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: I like that is that was that?

1007
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 3: Was that the actual trophy or you think that was

1008
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 3: the actual Okay, that that's live.

1009
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: That you know, ain't nothing left for me to do?

1010
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 4: Hey, I have a question, ain't nothing.

1011
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: Left for me to do? But don't don't do that

1012
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: thing on yoke, hold on.

1013
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 4: See that's that's what That's what I understand. So that

1014
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 4: those are replicas like you have, right, Nah.

1015
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: You look, John got the O g.

1016
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: Uh, most people get the little minis me.

1017
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 4: I'm I'm with what those run un.

1018
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: I don't know this was gifted to me, you.

1019
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 4: Know what I'm I'm gonna give me one of the

1020
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 4: main too in gold. I'm gonna get them on. I'm'na

1021
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 4: get them one. I'm gonna get one that made and

1022
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 4: gold Man. Yeah, I'm gonna do what made it.

1023
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: Gold in this littlebardy of silver the.

1024
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: Same way I got my bust and gold and the

1025
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 3: buses is bronze. Bronze, yeah, yeah, so I want everything

1026
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 3: to be gold.

1027
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: The one that they can give you is made out

1028
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: of wood, the one that they put in the hall.

1029
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 2: It is the one that's the one that's in the hall.

1030
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: If the bronze were the one that gives you is

1031
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 2: the wood. But I'm gonna donate mine the Savannah State

1032
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: for real. Yeah, and my jacket. Okay, because I ain't

1033
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 2: got but one jacket. What I'm gonna do, get one,

1034
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 2: Get a jacket to the kid. Get get one jacket

1035
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: to the kid. Give the Hall of Fame ring to

1036
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 2: a kid. Now, let's go go to Savannah State. I'm

1037
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: gonna get I'm gonna get a ring, the jacket and

1038
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 2: the bus to Savannah State. The kids getting enough stuff,

1039
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 2: trust me, they're getting enough. They'll be okay, Yeah, they'll

1040
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 2: they'll be okay oo.

1041
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1042
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: So now what I'm gonna do, i'na have have my

1043
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 2: Super Bowl trophe at my wedding. Who are coming?

1044
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: Hey?

1045
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 3: We we we get you get married next year on yep,

1046
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 3: we're gonna do the dude wedding or no, we're gonna

1047
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: do that.

1048
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 4: You know you know where you get a discount.

1049
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know right now on your I've come

1050
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: to the realization, I'm done being with somebody that I

1051
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 2: have fun with.

1052
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, whoa.

1053
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute. This

1054
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 3: is this is the very this is the very pivotal moment. Yeah, like,

1055
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 3: I like where you're going that the wait wait, let

1056
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 3: me let me get comfortable.

1057
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: I talked to me, if I found somebody that I

1058
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: can I can suffer with, I can enduel with.

1059
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 3: Because you have fun with anybody, right, Come on, now,

1060
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 3: you have fun with anybody.

1061
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 2: Themfie coach, coach, say you going to Tahiti, say you're

1062
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: going to Santorini a Mika nose Bali.

1063
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: You have fun right.

1064
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 2: When you come to suffering, when it comes to enduring,

1065
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: Come on, now, who you want to do that with?

1066
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: Who would do that with you?

1067
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 3: I got I gotta I got a question though, I

1068
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 3: got a question. Now, when you say you found someone

1069
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 3: you can suffer with, you got somebody you can have

1070
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 3: fun with.

1071
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 4: You know what that's like. You know what it's like when.

1072
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 3: The sun is shining, but when it's cloudy and it's

1073
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 3: storming and it's raining. They got the umbrella for you.

1074
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 3: How you even got to that point to realize that,

1075
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 3: because most of the time when it's storming and thundering,

1076
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 3: when it's thundering and lightning, most of the time everything

1077
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 3: goes this way.

1078
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: Because when you laying there and she said, baby, I'm

1079
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 2: counting your breath.

1080
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: Mmmm, breed. Nobody else has ever done that.

1081
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 2: Come on, man, I I did this Lambs ride. We're

1082
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 2: going Hey, I like that. Listen the kid and Jesse

1083
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 2: James were going out one Lambs ride.

1084
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 4: Hey, I like that. I never heard I never heard

1085
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 4: that one before. I never heard that one before.

1086
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: I like that.

1087
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 3: Like most of the time, you know, my grandma always say,

1088
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: find someone, find someone that's willing to unpack your baggage,

1089
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 3: because we all got it.

1090
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 4: We all come with it. Yes, we all do.

1091
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 3: The hard part is finding someone's baggage unpacking. Most of

1092
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 3: the time once you unpack it with things go rough.

1093
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 3: You know you packed, they send.

1094
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 4: You, and you try, you try, and you keep moving

1095
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 4: on and think, is something else is better?

1096
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: Yep?

1097
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: That's always been my thing. On Yo, you thought something

1098
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 2: that that's what made us who we are. Yeah, even

1099
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 2: though when I made the Pro Bowl, I thought I

1100
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 2: could be better. Even when I made all pro I

1101
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 2: thought I could be better. When I had a thousand

1102
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 2: a thousand yard season, I thought I could be the better,

1103
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: a double digit touchdown season, I could be better. It

1104
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: was always when you're satisfied as a person, you threw

1105
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 2: as an individual. So I was always trying to see

1106
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 2: to get better, to get better, to get better.

1107
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: Now you're done.

1108
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 4: You you waving a white flag.

1109
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 2: I could be Yeah, yeah I can still. I can

1110
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 2: still search for greatenss and be content.

1111
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: I like that.

1112
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: So you got to search for that greatness in other areas,

1113
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 3: other aspects of your life. Yeah, hey, that's a good thing.

1114
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: I'm glad you got that piece of the puzzle.

1115
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 4: Feel the man. I like that. Man, I like that. Yeah, yeah,

1116
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 4: I like that.

1117
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: You know, she don't she don't know what the old

1118
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 1: shade was like.

1119
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, the old shade used to go double overside.

1120
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: Now she didn't get the third quarter, she didn't get

1121
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: the third quarter. On't you hey, get the work? Hide up.

1122
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: I put up a quick tin. Yeah you done.

1123
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 4: She ain't know.

1124
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: I used to have a get a forty point tripled up.

1125
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 3: Yeah hey, I got I got one more question.

1126
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 4: On that one more question. Now, this this is this

1127
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 4: is for me.

1128
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 3: This is my therapy session because I like when we

1129
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: get on topics like this, right, yes, Is there ever

1130
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 3: a timetable.

1131
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,959
Speaker 4: To decide when you know that's the one?

1132
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1133
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 4: I think it is six months, a year, two years.

1134
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a time.

1135
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you have a feeling and you're like,

1136
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 2: okay when things go because it's gotta go bad. Because

1137
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 2: when it's going good, when everything is good and you

1138
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 2: flying everywhere and you buying everything, and aby the time

1139
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: you buy this person that person, yes this, and you

1140
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: give that yes sir, Okay, when it goes bad, come on,

1141
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 2: now it's bad. And I even, hey, I ain't gonna

1142
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 2: beat you down now, but we're gonna have a conversation.

1143
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 2: So you know we're gonna have a conversation. We're gonna talk.

1144
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, hey, I didn't a I get, I get,

1145
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 3: I get frustrated. Right, I'm at that point now when

1146
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 3: when when things are great, Oh, when it's great, it's great.

1147
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 3: And I avoid those conversations. I avoid those tough conversations

1148
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 3: because I what's the word I'm looking for? I love,

1149
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 3: I love my peace. I'm not one that I'm I'm

1150
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 3: not one that really likes chaos now at my big age.

1151
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 3: So therefore when when when I when I see chaos,

1152
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 3: I kind of I kind of go into a shell, right,

1153
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 3: And it's it's so funny. When I'm happy, I'm I'm

1154
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 3: a talker. Actually I talk to goddamn much. And when

1155
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 3: I shouldn't be talking, I shut down instead of having

1156
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 3: those tough conversations that I should have.

1157
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: Sat I like to have a tough conversations either I don't.

1158
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 4: I gotta, I gotta work on that.

1159
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: That man, Yeah, I do. Everybody got it because I don't.

1160
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. And

1161
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: it's just easy. I don't don't want to talk about it.

1162
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: You're right, mm hmm.

1163
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 2: It ain't easy though, O yo, Yeah, damn sure, not easy, boy.

1164
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 4: You're telling what. It's a lot of work. It's a

1165
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 4: lot of work.

1166
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 3: And sometimes I think to myself, sometimes I think to myself,

1167
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 3: if things are supposed to be this way, why does

1168
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 3: so much work? Why does so much work? Isn't natural

1169
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 3: it is supposed to be this way. I mean, I mean,

1170
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 3: there's so there's so many unanswered questions.

1171
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 4: You know and I don't know.

1172
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: I just sometimes don't Yo. You could work like.

1173
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 2: And the reason why equates a lot to sports is

1174
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: because I was good at it and I worked at it,

1175
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 2: and it's like, you know what, if I work at this,

1176
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 2: I could change this. If I can be good at it,

1177
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: you can work for years and your relationship might not

1178
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: even get any better because the question is is you

1179
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 2: working as hard.

1180
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 1: As you are?

1181
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 4: That's a good one.

1182
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 1: Are you working for the same goal?

1183
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 2: Because sometimes we get into an argument oho, me and

1184
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 2: you arguing yeah so no, no, no, no, no, it ain't

1185
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 2: me and you, it's me and you verse the problem.

1186
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 2: There's a difference we argue with amongst each other. We

1187
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 2: go back and forth, but the problem still there. How

1188
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: about you and I double team this problem?

1189
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: Right? What caused this?

1190
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 4: And most of the time the problem is me.

1191
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: Yes.

1192
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 2: A lot of times, A lot of times the problem

1193
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: is us. A lot of times is the situation where

1194
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get just tell me if you want something,

1195
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: if you want to do something.

1196
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: I don't like to have to figure out, get.

1197
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: Right now, what you want to do, Just tell me,

1198
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 2: because uncommunicated expectations will ruin a relationship because you have

1199
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 2: an expectation and you don't communicate what those expectations are.

1200
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: You assume I'm supposed to know I have expectations. I

1201
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: assume you're supposed to know because you're at an age.

1202
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 2: You've dated before, you've had been in relationships before, you've

1203
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 2: been in long term relationships before. Why do I need

1204
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: to walk you step by step? You was in a

1205
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 2: long term relationship, you just wasn't in it with me,

1206
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 2: So I need to tell you what I expect from you.

1207
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 2: You need to tell me what you expect from me.

1208
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 2: So if we communicate these expectations, we're on the path

1209
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,439
Speaker 2: to go in somewhere. But when you don't have when

1210
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: you have uncommunicated, when you don't tell me what you expect,

1211
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: I don't tell you what to expect, and then I'm

1212
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 2: swoll because you didn't do what I expected you to

1213
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 2: do when.

1214
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: You would tell me.

1215
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 3: And that's one of the worst things with marriages, with relationships,

1216
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 3: with friendships, is that one word, that one word on

1217
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 3: because we expect certain things. Yes, once you have a title,

1218
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 3: once the title comes to anything with the title comes expectations.

1219
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 3: Most of the time when it comes to humans, we

1220
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 3: always fall short. Human error is inevitable no matter what

1221
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 3: aspect of life you're in. With those expectations, then it

1222
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 3: becomes you trying to become somewhat of a character to

1223
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 3: meet the role that they want.

1224
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 4: And that's hard because you're not even being yourself.

1225
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 3: You have to change who you are to meet someone

1226
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 3: else's expectations.

1227
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: How do you change?

1228
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: Because here's you gotta be careful because changing who you are,

1229
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: you lose who you are.

1230
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 3: But that's what expectations are because you can't be your

1231
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 3: true set.

1232
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 4: It's impossibly your true self. If you're supposed.

1233
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 3: To meet someone else's expectations, that's not even originally you.

1234
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 3: You have to be the version of the way they

1235
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 3: view you.

1236
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:58,439
Speaker 1: You have to be.

1237
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 2: There's perception in there's reality. A person's perception of you

1238
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: is their reality. A person's perception of you, that's their reality.

1239
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 2: But that's not always the truth. So now how she

1240
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 2: perceives you, that is her reality. That could be the

1241
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: farthest thing from who you actually are.

1242
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 4: And which is which is normally the case.

1243
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 3: Nine eighty percent of the time, women fall in love

1244
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 3: with the idea that they have in their head of you,

1245
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 3: not who you truly are.

1246
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 2: Of who they think a man should be, what he

1247
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 2: should do. You should open the door. You should buy cameras,

1248
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 2: you should buy cars, You should be thoughtful, You should

1249
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: write poetry.

1250
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: That is the perception of what they think.

1251
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 2: That ain't who When did I ever give you that,

1252
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 2: give you that impression that was who I was? This

1253
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 2: ain't no Harlequin novel, This ain't no Hallmark movie.

1254
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 4: This ain't no the notebook.

1255
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: Hell no. But I like a tablet, damn thee tablet.

1256
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 4: But you know what I do like?

1257
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 3: I love becoming a better version of myself for the

1258
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 3: individual that you in whatever way they do.

1259
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 4: Yes, how do I become that version of me or

1260
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 4: the version of in which you view me as?

1261
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: How do I How do I become the best version

1262
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 2: for you without losing me me?

1263
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 3: Because that is most of the time one of the

1264
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 3: hardest things to do, the two hardest things to do.

1265
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 3: Chat You've heard me say before. Two of the hardest

1266
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 3: things to do is to hit the baseball. Yeah, and

1267
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 3: to keep a woman happy long term, because in turn

1268
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 3: and trying to keep a woman happy long term, you

1269
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 3: have to lose a sense of self.

1270
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 2: You do men are willing to do that. How many

1271
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 2: times your man say, well, you know what, you know,

1272
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 2: this is what she wanted. She don't want me to

1273
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 2: go out with oho oho, I got to cut back.

1274
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 2: She don't want me to drink. I got to cut back.

1275
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 2: She don't be over the time of my in laws. Yes, sir,

1276
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 2: what do women say? I would like to when you

1277
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: met me, you ain't have a problem with it. You see,

1278
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 2: men are willing to change for the woman that a

1279
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 2: man loves. He will change that. Joe will cut off

1280
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 2: his family, he'll come up with friends, He'll do whatever

1281
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 2: to make her happy. It goes back to biblical Yeah,

1282
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 2: Samson told Delilah where strength lie? For a reason? Adam,

1283
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: you know, Adam did what he did for a reason.

1284
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 2: David did what he did the best. She was hup

1285
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 2: for a reason.

1286
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 4: M just saying, hey, that was a good therapy session.

1287
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 4: I like that.

1288
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, we we know, we do that.

1289
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 4: That was a good therapy session.

1290
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know,