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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, it's Rosy O'Donnell. Yes it is, and this

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Speaker 1: is onward my podcast, this interview I jumped right in,

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Speaker 1: so here we go, Kaylee Schmidt. Take a listen, okay, everybody.

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Speaker 1: So today's show is going to be all about my

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Speaker 1: experience with Guide Dogs of America. I can't even begin

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Speaker 1: to put into words just how changed I am by

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Speaker 1: the experience of these people, what they do, and what

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Speaker 1: effect it has on the lives of those people they

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Speaker 1: are helping. And so basically I'm not an expert. I

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Speaker 1: am just a new mom of an autism service dog.

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Speaker 1: And while I was there preparing to go for my

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Speaker 1: ten day lessons at their dorms and their facility, Guide

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Speaker 1: Dogs of America And if you want to go online now,

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Speaker 1: if you're sitting home, Guiddogsofamerica dot org, and you can

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Speaker 1: just get yourself familiar with what it is that they

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Speaker 1: do and what it is that they offer. And so

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Speaker 1: they offer autism service dogs for children twelve and under.

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Speaker 1: And I did not know anything about this, and I

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Speaker 1: got involved and I met someone who, to me, should

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Speaker 1: get Mother of the Year award every year if they

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Speaker 1: give them out. Kaylee, I'm going to vote for you.

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Speaker 1: She is an autistic mom married to an autistic man

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Speaker 1: with autistic children, and she not only has a guide

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Speaker 1: dog that has changed her life and her family's life.

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Speaker 1: She took the time out while I was going through

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Speaker 1: this process with my other autism mom at this place

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Speaker 1: was Laura, and she personally got involved in helping us

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Speaker 1: in Kay. I got to tell you, it helped me

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Speaker 1: so much to have your support and to know another

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Speaker 1: autistic family that had a service dog. Because I don't

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Speaker 1: know how you found out about it, but I happened

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Speaker 1: upon it randomly. I did not know, as an autistic

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Speaker 1: mom for ten years that this was even an option.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's commonly known, you know, And

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Speaker 3: I think that people don't even realize. For me, I

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Speaker 3: I knew about, you know, guide dogs for seeing impaired people,

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Speaker 3: We talk about special interests and autism all the time,

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Speaker 3: just started researching what could I do, How can I

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Speaker 3: in a world that is not built for them, you know,

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Speaker 3: Once I, once I found it, I was like, this,

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Speaker 3: have to do. This is you know, going to make

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Speaker 1: Had I'm in shock. Yeah, yeah, I find myself brought

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Speaker 1: And then your you and your husband get diagnosed. How

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Speaker 3: Like that doesn't happen to neurotypical people. Because I was answering, yes, yes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I always felt like I had this primal connection

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Speaker 1: More with Kayleie after this, you're told when your kid

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Speaker 1: And this is a therapeutic choice for your family. And

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Speaker 1: at Guide Dogs of America it is completely free of charge.

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Speaker 1: It always has been and it always will be. It's

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Speaker 3: So I had noticed that my son when he had

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Speaker 3: there has to be something about the connection between autistic

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Speaker 2: so I start researching, like how to train your dog? Right,

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Speaker 3: And then I saw these you know, things come up

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Speaker 3: They come home and they're like, this is what I've

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Speaker 3: To a typical family, Rosie, like that would be such

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Speaker 1: I think because people don't understand how it incrementally decreases,

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Speaker 3: And so the dogs become so in tune, like I

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Speaker 3: my heart rate picking up, like, oh man, I hate

440
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 3: this part, you know. And she jumped up and got

441
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 3: on my lap. And they're not supposed to get out

442
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 3: of the que that you put them in. And I

443
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 3: was like, what are you doing, Like we are landing,

444
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 3: there are people around me. Get back down, and so

445
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 3: I accuted her to go back down, and she got

446
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 3: back down, but I.

447
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: Could tell she didn't want What are you doing? You know?

448
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 2: And so as we land it was a bumpy landing.

449
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 3: And as the first time hit, she popped back up

450
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 3: and she stayed on my lap and I could tell

451
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 3: I could not get her down.

452
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she knew, like she knew what I needed.

453
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: And we had only been together for ten days.

454
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Speaker 1: Wait right, you know, and that's had a thing that

455
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: makes me cry three times a day. Yeah, because I

456
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: see that the dog is sensing what my child is

457
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: doing and trying to figure out how to best deal

458
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,239
Speaker 1: with it. Right, So it was interesting that, you know,

459
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: we stayed home today because we had a COVID exposure,

460
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 1: So we stayed home from school today. And it's the

461
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: first day that she just really gets to hang out.

462
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: And she was on the couch and we put the

463
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Speaker 1: blankets on the couch so that she can cuddle with her,

464
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: because that's what we want, that connection. And the dog

465
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: jumps up and puts herself like in the way of

466
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: Dakota's iPad right and does a lap and I call

467
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: her down, and Dakota said, no, no, I liked it,

468
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, So I was like, Wow, the dog knew,

469
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: you know. I thought, Oh, it's going to interrupt what

470
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: she's doing and it's going to annoy her. No, no,

471
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: I liked it. I liked it. So I queued back,

472
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: and of course Kumba went and did the whole thing

473
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: war with Kaylee after this. It's pretty much like a

474
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: huge event in your life, you know, when you were

475
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: going to the ten days and you realized, but you

476
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: did all the research that you had to go live

477
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: there in Silmar for ten days in a dorm. You

478
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: have two other autistic children and maybe not known yet

479
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: but autistic husband. And I don't assume you had ever

480
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 1: done that before, taken ten days off to go do

481
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: something by yourself.

482
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: No, no, I had never left them for that long,

483
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 3: and honestly, that was the one piece that I was like,

484
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if we.

485
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: Can do this.

486
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: That's what I thought too.

487
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 3: I rallied our community and made it happen piece together

488
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 3: with the childcare that I needed to make it happen,

489
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 3: and it was the best time investment I've ever made,

490
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 3: because you truly do need the ten days to fully

491
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: immerse yourself in the experience, and they are so intentional

492
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 3: with the way that they do the training. They know

493
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: their stuff, and so I feel like once I got

494
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: to know the trainers, I was like, Okay, I trust

495
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: that they are having me there for ten days for

496
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: a reason, and you absolutely use every minute of those

497
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 3: ten days to learn what you need to learn and

498
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: allow the dog and handler bond to begin and solidify

499
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 3: enough that you feel comfortable to go home and continue

500
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: that journey. So it looking back now, I can tell

501
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,719
Speaker 3: you that that was the best foundation to what I

502
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 3: needed to know to make sure that that bond happened

503
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: for my children, and it absolutely has.

504
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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I felt. I was like, I don't

505
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: think I can do this ten days away, and then

506
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: the day I was driving there, I was like, maybe

507
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: I should just cancel. And you know, I had all

508
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: these things in my head and I went there and

509
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: I found it to be exceeded my expectations in any

510
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: way possible. I didn't know dogs could do this. I

511
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: didn't understand you're getting a real dog that is going

512
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: to have real dog playtime stuff in your house while

513
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: also working sometimes in the house without the vest, right

514
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: because you're sitting watching TV. And I can cue her

515
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: without a leash and tell her what to do and

516
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: she will go and do it. A lot of people

517
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: have asked me, and I've said it so many times,

518
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 1: but maybe you can explain why a little better than

519
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: I have been able to. Everyone's going is the dolla

520
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: going to go to school with Clay? And I'm like,

521
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: that's an impossible thing to do because I am the handler.

522
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: So maybe you can explain that.

523
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know, autism service dogs are a unique

524
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: experience because it's a three man team, right. You have

525
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: the handler, the service dog, and then the child who

526
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 3: is the recipient is the term we use, but basically

527
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: the child that benefits from the dog.

528
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: And so.

529
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Speaker 3: If we were to separate the dog from the handler,

530
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,719
Speaker 3: which is the person they know holds the treats, but

531
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: also is the one who has been cuing them and

532
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: knows them and knows what to expect from them. Then

533
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: we're asking a child who is in a time of need,

534
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 3: a time of discomfort, to then recall cues and recall.

535
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: What they need to do to cue the dog for

536
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: what they need.

537
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: It's just it's an impossible and very very difficult thing

538
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 3: to put on top of a situation that's already very

539
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: hard for them. So to ask an autistic individual in

540
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: the middle of a meltdown or even on their way

541
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 3: to a meltdown, it doesn't even have to get to

542
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: that peak of a meltdown, but in a time of discomfort,

543
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: to ask them then to do something else would not

544
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: be fair.

545
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: In that moment.

546
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: Right, it's too much and so too much, And that

547
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: the handler is the grown up. The handler is the

548
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: grown up, and the child is sort of the charge

549
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: or the recipient of the dog of the dog's training. Right,

550
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: It's not that for me that I'm getting the dog too,

551
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: although I do get the dog to sit on my lap,

552
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: so how am I getting? But it is for me too,

553
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: Like that's another thing I realized, Like you know how

554
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: emotionally defended. I was because this kind of broke down

555
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: all those walls, you know, I found like once I

556
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: started crying, and it was hard not to cry there

557
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,239
Speaker 1: because did you happen to have visually impaired students as

558
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: well at the school the time you were there.

559
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: No, we had.

560
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 3: Several facility dogs and several veteran or mobility dogs, but

561
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: we didn't have any visually impaired teams.

562
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we had six visually impaired people, and then

563
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: we had six service dog people, two with veterans with mobility,

564
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: and two facility dogs and then two autism dogs, which

565
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: was a wonderful kind of balance, you know. But to

566
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: see the blind people making their way learning what they

567
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: need to learn without the ability to see and a

568
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: walking stick, and they get through their life, and it

569
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: was a beautiful thing. Like, you know, I have never

570
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: been around that many visually impaired people in my life

571
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 1: at one time. And they had been together for two

572
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: weeks before we showed up for our ten days, and

573
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: they were rip roaringly funny and playing Uno and screaming

574
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: all night and keeping us awake. And they were the funniest,

575
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: most heartwarmingly inspiring group of people to have next to

576
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: you when you know you always you always think that

577
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: you know life is greener somewhere else, but your own

578
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: life is what you have to deal with. And to

579
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: see people do it with grace, to see those veterans

580
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: who have mobility issue walking the five miles a day

581
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: that we walk sometime in the mall and at the beach,

582
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: and to try to get these these dogs ready for

583
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: their permanent home. I was moved by the dedication of

584
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: the trainers and the puppy raisers. And it's like magical

585
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: when you see them do it. It feels like magic.

586
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: You know it is.

587
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: It is, And those puppy raisers are such an important

588
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 3: part of that journey because they are there the puppies

589
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 3: first experience with a family or with kids, or with

590
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: going out in the community or just learning to be

591
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: you know, around the house hanging out like you said.

592
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 2: And so.

593
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: They are so so so important and such a vital

594
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 3: part of the program for them.

595
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: And there's a big need in Silmour in southern California.

596
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: If you're in southern California and you feel as though

597
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: you have the heart to raise a puppy, usually a

598
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: lab or a lab golden mix from ten weeks to

599
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: sixteen months, and then you give the puppy back to

600
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Speaker 1: Guide Dogs of America and they choose what track the

601
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: dog goes on to be a service dog for AUTUS,

602
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: for vets with mobility or PTSD, or for visually impaired people.

603
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: Those are the three groups that they help at Guide

604
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: Dogs Offamerica dot org. You have been so helpful to

605
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: me and I know to Laura, and I think you're

606
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: a wonderful speaker. I think you should write a book

607
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: without a doubt about you know, your life with autism

608
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: and with three autistic kids. You're like, you know, as

609
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: Laura looked over to me when you were speaking one time,

610
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: she says, autistic mom goals. I'm like, totally right, autistic

611
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: mom goals, Right.

612
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. Well, thank you, I

613
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: appreciate it.

614
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: I think you know, on this journey, we talk about

615
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 3: how lonely it can be, and so I know that

616
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 3: I learned the most from people who are a little

617
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 3: bit ahead of me in that journey, and we're willing

618
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: to turn back and offer their hand and say, yeah,

619
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 3: I know the way.

620
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's do this thing.

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00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: You know, exactly.

622
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 3: It's such a rewarding part of this journey to be

623
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Speaker 3: able to help someone else along the way.

624
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: Well, I hope to be to someone what you were

625
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 1: to me. And oh, Kayleie, thank you so much.

626
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 2: You are so welcome.

627
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 3: And remember for.

628
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 1: More information Guide Dogs of America, Guide Doogs of America

629
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Speaker 1: dot org. Tell them Rosie and Kaylee sent you. We'll

630
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: be back right after this. I'm going. And by the way, everybody,

631
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: Kaylee volunteers as an autism handler coach. That's, you know,

632
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: really what she did for me. And it's amazing how

633
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: everyone involved at that organization is just fantastic. Check them

634
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: out Guiddogs of America dot org. All right, hope you

635
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: enjoyed that. We got some questions and comments for today.

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Speaker 1: Number one is somebody named Garth.

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639
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Speaker 5: see your shows because I'm in the UK, so I

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Speaker 5: don't think we received your shows in the nineties and noughties,

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Speaker 5: but I remember you from the film A League of

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Speaker 5: their Own, and I found clips of you on YouTube

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Speaker 5: on the view, which also we don't get, and so

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Speaker 5: I became a fan really from that across the pond.

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Speaker 5: My question is to do with your love of Barbara

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Speaker 5: streisand and streisand I should say it correctly because I

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Speaker 5: the reason why is because my mother, who has now

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Speaker 5: I think she was depressed. And twenty years ago, Shania

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Speaker 5: Twain did a tour called Up Tour, and I managed

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Speaker 5: to get her to the concert because I said, you

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Speaker 5: really love Shanaia and I'd really love to take you,

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Speaker 5: and took a bit of persuasion, but I did get

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Speaker 5: her there and she managed to shake Shania Twain's hand.

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Speaker 5: She went to the stage. I don't know how she

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Speaker 5: got so bold, but she went to the stage and

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Speaker 5: she shook her hand and she was over the moon.

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Speaker 5: So it was a memory that I'm so grateful for

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Speaker 5: that I managed to get her to this concert. So

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Speaker 5: fast forward twenty years so last year, Shania Twain was

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Speaker 5: doing a concert in the United Kingdom in September and

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Speaker 5: I went along with some friends and I got to

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Speaker 5: shake Shanaiawain's hand. She managed to just come past me,

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Speaker 5: and I was quite moved by the moment because it

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Speaker 5: felt like I was shaking hands with my mother, even

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Speaker 5: though Shanaia has no idea who I am or my

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Speaker 5: story or anything like that, but she just I'll send

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00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 5: you the clippers. Well, because my friend was filmingu ites,

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Speaker 5: I'll send that via email if I can. So, yeah,

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Speaker 5: my questions to do with that and your love of

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Speaker 5: Barbara streisand so can you just tell me a little

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Speaker 5: bit of can you see some similarities with my love

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Speaker 5: of Shneia and your love of Barbara? Take care? Thank

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Speaker 5: you for listening, Hi, Garth.

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Speaker 1: I love your voice. I could listen to you all day.

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00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: I love your accent, I love the lilt of your voice.

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00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: I just think it's You're delightful. And yes, that is

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00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: exactly how my love of Barbara started. By my mother's

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Speaker 1: love of Barbara. And I could always tell if my

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Speaker 1: mom was in a good mood, if she was playing

685
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: streisand you know, and if she was in a bad mood.

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Speaker 1: It was the sound of silence, Hello darkness, my old friend.

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Speaker 1: You know, I understand completely when when Barbara streisand walked

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Speaker 1: through those doors and I hadn't seen her yet at

689
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: that day at the show, it totally felt like my

690
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: mom was walking through those doors the curtains, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it was very, very emotional. In fact, it's hard for

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Speaker 1: me to watch the clip because it's so much bigger

693
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: and the feeling is like goes so deep. And I

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Speaker 1: think she's one of a kind. And it has been

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00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: the greatest joy to get to be in her orbit.

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Speaker 1: And I'm in the middle of the book. I'm loving it.

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00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: I waited till I had some real time off to myself,

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Speaker 1: and I can't wait to talk about it with our

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Speaker 1: guest next week, which is Linda Richmond. Linda Richmond, you

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Speaker 1: all know coffee Talk from Saturday Night Live with Mike

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00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: Mayas he would do Linda. It's Linda that he was doing,

702
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: and so she and I are the original Barber streisand lovers,

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00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: and we will be discussing Barbara and many other things.

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Speaker 1: But thank you, Garth, thank you so much. We have

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Speaker 1: one more question comment from Luri hit it.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Rosie, my name is Lori. I'm calling from northern California.

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Speaker 4: Huge fan of your podcasts. The other day I was

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Speaker 4: listening to SmartLess and Mark Ruffalo was on there and

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00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 4: he was talking about some mini series he did called

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Speaker 4: I Know This Much is True, and I was like,

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Speaker 4: what Wally Lamb? Could that be the same story? So

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Speaker 4: I start I found it and I started watching it.

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Speaker 4: I finished watching it all in one day. I gotta say,

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Speaker 4: Rosie O'donald's in it. Are you kidding me? You were

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Speaker 4: outstanding in that role. Oh my god, I'm so proud

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00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 4: of you. We share the same birthday, which is neither

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Speaker 4: here nor there, but you where's the Emmy? Where's the

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00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 4: Emmy that Rosie o'donald? Anyway, good luck with a new puppy.

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Speaker 4: I hope you're great. Thanks for listening. Sorry for the ramble.

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Speaker 4: It's the wine hour, you know. Anyway, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I thank you, Laurie, Thank you so much. That's so,

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Speaker 1: you know. It is definitely the best experience I had

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Speaker 1: acting on a movie was the set with Mark Ruffalo

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Speaker 1: and Derek cian Franz, who is the director who is

725
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: extraordinary and google his movies and listen to the scores,

726
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: and he's a genius I think, and so is Mark Ruffalo.

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Speaker 1: So to get to be working with the two of

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Speaker 1: them was just the greatest thrill of my career, truthfully,

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00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: really was. And I thank you for all the nice comments.

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Speaker 1: And Mark did win the Emmy for that, and I

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Speaker 1: was very proud of him. I didn't get nominated, but

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Speaker 1: that's okay. You know, there were a lot of great

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Speaker 1: performances and you can't ever really compare art. It's nice

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Speaker 1: when you get noticed, but it's nice when people just

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Speaker 1: come up to you and say, hey, I think you

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Speaker 1: did well in that, you know, like you just did, Lurie,

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Speaker 1: So thank you for that. Thank you very much. And

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Speaker 1: happy almost birthday to us, either you the same year

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Speaker 1: as me or just March twenty one, because are you

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00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: going to turn sixty two and you were born in

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Speaker 1: sixty two, because that's pretty wild. I think it means

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Speaker 1: it's the golden birthday, which means what people have to

743
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Speaker 1: give you gold. I don't really know. I'll have to

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00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: google that before next week. All right, Laurie, thank you,

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00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: thank you all for listening to hear this whole podcast

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Speaker 1: thing we do. We got Linda Richmond next week. Really,

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Speaker 1: no one like it. Really, Barber Streis that she's like butter.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: That's Linda Richmond and I talk to her every day,

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Speaker 1: and he's she's my mom here in a Los Angeles

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00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: and in my heart. So Linda Richmond next week, see you.

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Speaker 1: Then people peace out,