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Speaker 3: or so. And now we're going to talk with Nathan

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Speaker 2: He ended up second place.

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Speaker 3: He did the best out of all the woes on

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Speaker 3: like eleven challengers to George Gascone in the primary on

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Speaker 3: March fifth for La County District Attorney. So he is

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Speaker 3: now going to take on Gascone one on one in November.

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Speaker 3: And he got the endorsement of nearly all of Gascone's prosecutors,

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Speaker 3: all of his employees, the Association of Deputy District Attorneys,

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Speaker 3: let's get Nathan on the line talk about it and

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Speaker 1: Welcome, Hi, Jack, Hi, John, I said, be on the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So let's talk about this. This is a major

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Speaker 3: over three years, and I know most of them are

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Speaker 1: This is a huge endorsement, John. The Association of Deputy

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Speaker 1: These are the line prosecutors who go into in the

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Speaker 1: basically have turned on their boss. As we know, almost

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Speaker 1: ninety eight percent of them supported the recall against George Gascon,

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Speaker 1: which is a shocking statistic. And now they've actually endorsed

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Speaker 1: me in this way race. I mean, how again, how

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Speaker 1: surprising is that that George Gascon has had over three

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Speaker 1: policies make sense, and instead of backing him, they've done

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Speaker 1: just the opposite. Back myself as the challenger who's going

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Speaker 3: Do you worry about just voting patterns in Los Angeles

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Speaker 3: because you know this, the people actually elected him, you know,

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Speaker 3: three and a half years ago against Jackie Lacey, who

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Speaker 3: was a good district attorney. I can't remember her having

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Speaker 1: Well, I never take anything for granted, John, but I

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Speaker 1: absolutely right. Jackie Lacy a Democrat, the first black female

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Speaker 1: unusual circuit set of circumstances, starting with the George Floyd incident,

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Speaker 4: We're not going to have that this time.

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Speaker 1: Now. George Gascon has to not run on promises but

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Speaker 1: a record that has failed. As public the violent crimes

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Speaker 3: What are Gascon's biggest weaknesses that you're going to campaign against, Like,

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Speaker 3: more than any anything else about Gascon's performance, Because a

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Speaker 1: That's true, But I think what people pay attention to

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Speaker 1: been said on your show before, criminals don't ask for

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Speaker 3: You know, talk about your prosecutorial experience because again, most

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Speaker 1: So after I graduated Stanford Law School and clerk for

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Speaker 3: We were talking about you getting the endorsement of the

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Speaker 1: Well, I've talked to a whole lot of these deputy

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Speaker 1: how I will manage them, which is to learn from them,

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Speaker 1: to work with them, to find out the best practices

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Speaker 2: I will reject that.

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Speaker 1: I will bring and elevate people within the office who

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Speaker 3: I can't tell you how many victims or families of

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Speaker 1: That's a change John I can make from day one.

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Speaker 1: Gascon rejected a policy have been up for decades where

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Speaker 1: Right now, without the prosecutor there, that is an unchallenged

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Speaker 1: so I can change that policy immediately and also re sentencings. John,

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Speaker 3: All right, Nathan, thank you for coming on with us,

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Speaker 2: It's not the same universe, right.

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Speaker 3: Nathan Hawkman there and he's running against Gascone for a

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Speaker 2: This is my story.

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Speaker 3: I'm fascinating but fascinated by Donald Trump. Probably made three

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Speaker 3: billion dollars today and it's up in the air whether

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Speaker 3: the needs for that civil case. But there's this shell

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Speaker 3: company which merged with his Truth Social company. Now Truth

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Speaker 3: Social doesn't have many followers, nor does it have much

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Speaker 3: They're not a company. I mean, they have no goods,

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Speaker 3: Trump ends up with sixty percent ownership and three billion

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Speaker 3: But at least truth Social is something, but it's not

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't understand. The world is rigged,

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Speaker 3: We are going to do the moistline now eight seven

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Speaker 2: We did this every Friday. Let's go round one. Hey,

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Speaker 2: it's Sean. Thanks for calling the moistline. I'm so excited

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Speaker 2: to hear from you. To BAP time.

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Speaker 6: The planes are filing out of the sky and the

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Speaker 2: You know what, I think I'll take my car.

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Speaker 7: You know, over the last two years, all this.

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Speaker 4: Train and all the snow. No talk about drought over

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Speaker 8: There's a Boeing thing where they construct the place.

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Speaker 1: How many buildings in La are built to the game

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Speaker 1: standards that here quit pitch just kind a fall down.

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Speaker 5: You know, these developers that are paying off the city

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Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, it's going to be great, you know, John.

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Speaker 3: I just want to bet a little bit and tell

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Speaker 2: How the moron in La County that voted for Goat's

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Speaker 4: You people are indespicable.

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Speaker 2: You have no clue, and you better can.

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Speaker 4: Get ready because I'm about to go down.

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Speaker 2: We've got this mother in here who cares more about

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Speaker 1: He does about average law mining citizens.

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Speaker 2: It's despicable. Your people are so ridiculous.

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Speaker 9: I served thirty years the United States Air Force. Probably

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Speaker 9: is an absolute joke for Gavin Newsom to say for veterans,

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Speaker 9: you're going to many resources that are out there. If

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Speaker 9: there are true veterans that need help today, they're everywhere California.

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Speaker 9: Wake up, Do you guys just keep voting yourself into

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Speaker 10: If you heard the ads for the new California program

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Speaker 2: Car at a lower cost.

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Speaker 1: You got to be me ensure your car with the

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Speaker 2: Give me a break.

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Speaker 7: This makes all the sense in the world to me.

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Speaker 10: If the federal government is going to.

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Speaker 9: Make a law and then refuse to enforce the law,

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Speaker 9: the state have no choice. Otherwise, the federal government should

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Speaker 9: states for protecting themselves. That makes no sense. The Supreme

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Speaker 9: important to sit there, and I don't always agree with

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Speaker 9: them that in this case, I think it makes absolute sense.

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Speaker 1: John, what's wrong with you drinking that van from Deborah Mark?

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Speaker 4: Are you trying to poison yourself for what?

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Speaker 11: Come on?

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Speaker 4: Stick with the burgers and shakes. You don't need that ginion,

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Speaker 4: Good Lord, have mercy.

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Speaker 1: Don't do that anymore. I'm all for bashing La County

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Speaker 1: for voting, yes, but I mean, at least they're in

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Speaker 1: the fifties. Did you happen to look at San Francisco County? John,

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Speaker 1: It's seventy three percent the epicenter of this homelessness epidemic.

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Speaker 2: The surrounding counties around the Bay are in the sixties.

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Speaker 2: Who are these people? They are insane and we are

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Speaker 2: all screwed. John, You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 7: The thin water bottles are the worst.

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Speaker 4: It's not just stew. Water goes everywhere when you try

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Speaker 5: I used to drink a lot of kombucha, and I

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Speaker 7: It because it's expensive.

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Speaker 1: I actually think it tastes thelicoes.

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Speaker 12: But my daughter had the same reaction to the kombucha, which.

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Speaker 4: She tried it, and she called it sparkly. Bar ever

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Speaker 4: said she doesn't sleep well. The reason is obvious, she

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Speaker 4: doesn't eat well. You know, we really can control our desk.

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Speaker 1: And if we get rid of these liberal democrats, just.

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Speaker 4: Roll them out on every level of every office of

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Speaker 4: every state, they'll be gone. We'll get a conservative Supreme

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Speaker 11: Okay, So the additional exemption for the twenty dollars per

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Speaker 1: Make a commit of sense.

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Speaker 11: If you have a fast food restaurant located in an airport,

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Speaker 11: you are exempt from paying twenty dollars per hour. Have

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Speaker 11: you seen the price of goods in an airport. They

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Speaker 11: employees to hire a waight for it. That makes absolutely

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Speaker 3: John Kambucha, rids your body of toxic when you drink

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Speaker 4: It was just cutting away to grease from youro esophagus.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand how an appeals court can overrule the

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Speaker 4: But an appeals court will rule the Supreme Court. Man.

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Speaker 4: They just keep going until they get their way. Don't pay.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, John, how dare you?

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Speaker 5: I am so disappointed.

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Speaker 2: I'm hurt.

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Speaker 3: My heart is hurting. How dare you eat or drink

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Speaker 3: something healthy?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 11: We didn't know that there were assassins in the United States.

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Speaker 2: We've known that since Biden entered the office. Then what

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Speaker 13: And they ride in on that white horse, and then

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Speaker 13: they take credit for solving it, which is never a solution.

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Speaker 4: They're so stupid. Thank you for leaving your message.

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Speaker 2: Please hang up, good buy.

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Speaker 3: We'll never drink much against Okay. It was one of

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Speaker 3: the worst tasting momentsch.

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Speaker 14: Okay here's the deal.

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Speaker 13: What Aaron who works in the KFI newsroom, she's an editor.

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Speaker 13: She brought me kombucha today, a different brand, a different flavor.

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Speaker 13: It was delicious. I am hooked, and I'm going to

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Speaker 13: go buy more this weekend. So I think it depends

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Speaker 13: in it, because it is made with tea leaves, and

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Speaker 13: it's good for your digestion, as I told you numerous

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Speaker 13: times the other day, it's good for your gut, has

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Speaker 14: I am hooked on this stuff now.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand when the people carry on about it

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Speaker 3: gets rid of your toxins. My liver gets rid of

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Speaker 2: I know that's all a scam.

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Speaker 14: I don't. I don't necessarily think that it's a scam,

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Speaker 14: but I sham. I choose to believe that it's very

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Speaker 13: I feel I feel healthier after I drink it. And

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Speaker 13: by the way, to that guy who says I don't,

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Speaker 13: I don't sleep well because I don't eat well.

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Speaker 14: Baloney, I eat well, that's true.

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Speaker 2: I don't eat.

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Speaker 13: Baloney, good one, Eric, But I eat very well. But

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Speaker 13: thank you for your concern. But a lot of fruits

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Speaker 14: I do eat very well. I honestly do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still don't sleep, but that's.

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Speaker 14: Another matter that has nothing to do with me. Well

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Speaker 5: Reason you're listening to John Cobbel's on demand from KFI

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Speaker 5: AM six forty.

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Speaker 3: Conway coming up after four o'clock. And we got another

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Speaker 3: there is another twist in the story involving show Hey

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Speaker 3: for a ninety minute interview, and Misuhara said yeah, I

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Speaker 3: Hey Otani basically bailed me up four and a half

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Speaker 3: it doesn't Obviously, this doesn't make show shoe Otani a

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Speaker 3: if Otani did that, that's illegal. And maybe it doesn't

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Speaker 3: sound like it's illegal, but if you send money to

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Speaker 3: the investigation was centering on the bookie bower in Uh,

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Speaker 3: then when they realized how that implicated Otani it became okay,

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Speaker 3: Misahara engaged in a massive theft, and for moment one

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Speaker 3: that didn't.

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Speaker 2: Make any sense.

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Speaker 3: There is a writer for New York magazine, Ross Barkin,

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Speaker 2: This is the nub of the case. He says.

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Speaker 3: Otani's theft claim, on its face makes no sense. Number one,

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Speaker 3: how did Otani not know his interpreter was wiring a

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Speaker 3: thousand wires And according to Trista Thompson, the ESPN reporter

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Speaker 3: there's evidence that there's eight or nine of these, probably

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Speaker 2: They have to.

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Speaker 3: Because maybe you can wire a small amount of money,

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Speaker 3: but if you're wiring five hundred thousand dollars times nine

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Speaker 3: a few hoops.

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Speaker 2: It's that.

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Speaker 3: The amount was so high, and it was a repeated amount,

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Speaker 3: five hundred thousand, then another five hundred thousand. That is

444
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Speaker 3: the stuff. Because banks have all kinds of security and

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Speaker 3: fraud regulations, they're on the lookout for money laundering all

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Speaker 3: the time, especially involving wealthy people, especially in cities like

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles. There is so much drug running that's going

448
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Speaker 3: on and human smuggling and cryptocurrency crimes, and cryptocurrency exists

449
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Speaker 3: primarily to allow criminals to launder money and ship money

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Speaker 3: without a trace.

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Speaker 2: So they're they're they're they're hyper sensitive to it.

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Speaker 3: In fact, Ross Barkin writes, banking institutions have aggressive compliance

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Speaker 3: procedures in place to ensure very large sums of cash

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Speaker 3: are not wired without the consent of the account holders,

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Speaker 3: and that has to be Otani and Barkin writs, it

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Speaker 3: is difficult to imagine Otammi himself didn't sign off on

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Speaker 3: the transfer some form, and again that was the original

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Speaker 3: story until they all realize, oh, that breaks federal law.

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Speaker 3: You are now aiding in an illegal gambling operation just

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Speaker 3: by paying off your friend's debts. And again not saying

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Speaker 3: Otani's a bad guy or he intended to do anything

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Speaker 3: bad or illegal. This is not a Pete Rose situation.

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Speaker 3: But it does violate the law. Now, I don't know

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Speaker 3: how if they enforced that law, if they charge that

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Speaker 3: law and somebody does it unwittingly like that, But that's

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Speaker 3: the reason everybody is shut down. That's the reason you're

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Speaker 3: not saying Otani in a press conference or anybody in

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Speaker 3: Major League Baseball. And by the way, all this stuff

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Speaker 3: went on when he was with the Angels. The Dodgers

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Speaker 3: are kind of tangential to this because Trista Thompson from

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Speaker 3: ESPN said she saw a couple of the wires, the

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Speaker 3: wire transfer documents, and they date back to last September

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Speaker 3: and October when he was still a member of the Angels.

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Speaker 3: So they're going to have to do an investigation, and

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Speaker 3: they're going to have to see how deeply Otani was involved,

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Speaker 3: and it may be just on the surface. And maybe yeah,

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Speaker 3: because again he's from Japan, he's not familiar with American laws.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he got the lecture like all ballplayers do.

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Speaker 3: And the reason this is such a big deal, I know,

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Speaker 3: this sounds kind of weird in this day and age.

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Speaker 3: You know, decades ago, gambling was practically like prostitution. It

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Speaker 3: was considered socially unacceptable in society, and it was done underground,

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Speaker 3: and you had bookies and number runners and the mob involved.

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Speaker 3: But it's become mainstream in the modern world because of

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Speaker 3: the Internet. But it used to have a pretty strong

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Speaker 3: tank to it. And the reason that baseball has been

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Speaker 3: so anti gambling, at least for its players, even long

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Speaker 3: before Pete Rose, is the nineteen nineteen World Series they

489
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Speaker 3: suspect was thrown by the Chicago White Sox, that the

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Speaker 3: White White Sox intentionally gave away the series because a

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Speaker 3: number of their players were being bribed by gamblers.

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Speaker 2: And and and what's.

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Speaker 3: Death for any sport is if the fans believe the

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Speaker 3: games are rigged, if the fans lose confidence that the

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Speaker 3: athletic competition is honest, then the sport will die, and

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Speaker 3: that terrifies baseball executives and the executives of all the sports.

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Speaker 3: The one thing they can't abide by is the idea

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Speaker 3: that guys are throwing games because they're gambling or people

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Speaker 3: other people are gambling and they have compromised the players

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Speaker 3: in some way or threatened the players in some way,

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Speaker 3: and the players feel compelled to alter the outcome. And

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Speaker 3: that's why it's such a big deal. And that's why

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Speaker 3: you're going to have an MLB investigation. And Otani could

504
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Speaker 3: be in trouble even if he had no intention of doing.

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Speaker 2: Anything wrong other than that thing. His friend. Moistline is next.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am

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Speaker 5: six forty.

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Speaker 3: Here's round two of the Moistline eight seven seven moist

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Speaker 3: eighty six.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's Jean. Thanks for calling the Moistline. I'm so

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Speaker 2: excited to hear from you about time.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, John, Thank you, because you are the only

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Speaker 10: one that has the kahonas to speak about this.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna tell you, guys, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you guys.

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Speaker 7: Haven't been attention over us apart. There's no freak coming

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Speaker 7: through and hollness. They keep piling up as the possible

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Speaker 7: that I know one is just in the other, but

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Speaker 7: think about it, there's no work and the hollness keeps

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Speaker 7: piling up.

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Speaker 9: I have a theory and why they're letting so many

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Speaker 9: people in at the borders and they're not shutting them down.

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Speaker 11: I think it's proposed.

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Speaker 14: I think that in their pea brains they.

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Speaker 12: Feel like all these people coming in will go the

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Speaker 12: falls and vote for Biden in November.

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Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. The speed reduction technol whatever.

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Speaker 3: What if you're in an emergency situation and you are

529
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Speaker 3: being chased by somebody.

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Speaker 2: How are you going to outrun them? Ridiculous? I say,

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Speaker 2: fire that Wiener.

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Speaker 10: People from other states aren't going to have limitters on

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Speaker 10: their cars, that Arizona, Utah, whatever. They'll drive as fast

534
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Speaker 10: as they want, and everybody in California will be limited

535
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Speaker 10: to ten miles an hour with the speed limit. This

536
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Speaker 10: is the dumbest insanity I've ever heard. If the speed

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Speaker 10: limit or bill passes, do we get to fire all

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Speaker 10: the CHP and traffic cops too.

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Speaker 3: When you go to bed at night, just remember you

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00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 3: cannot vote for these children anymore.

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Speaker 2: Spending our money.

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Speaker 1: They just enacted the fact that somebody else doesn't have

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Speaker 1: to pay their debts again.

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Speaker 2: And that's bo.

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Speaker 8: Yes, you don't have to worry about this automatic ten

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Speaker 8: mile an hour speed limitter bill. No I, because that

547
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Speaker 8: would devastate their revenue generating speed tickets. It'll never happen.

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Speaker 2: I think, like Scott Wiener is after, is not the

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Speaker 2: speed limiting but speed monitoring. And if you go over

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Speaker 2: the ten miles.

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Speaker 8: An hour based on the GPS, they send you a

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Speaker 8: ticket and.

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Speaker 2: They find you.

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Speaker 4: I think this is just another money grab man.

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Speaker 10: They did Solum because they were figuring.

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Speaker 2: Out a way how to rig the voting.

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Speaker 7: That goalie.

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Speaker 4: It's rigged, you know, almost activist. They're out there saying, oh,

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Speaker 4: the workers need to get more money, twenty dollars an

560
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Speaker 4: dollars and we're going to have dollars and everywhere else, you know,

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Speaker 4: patronize the restaurants, restaurant owners to help support that race.

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Speaker 9: If they're all asking for I demand a recount of

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Speaker 9: this proposition one because.

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Speaker 1: Whoever voted for this is just absolutely in a fog

565
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Speaker 1: thinking that he's going to spend the money wisely and

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Speaker 1: anything else is going to be changed.

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Speaker 6: So they want people to get out and ride bicycles,

568
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Speaker 6: and they're going to put bike lanes all over the

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Speaker 6: place now because of that bill that just got passed.

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Speaker 6: You know what they're not talking about is are they

571
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Speaker 6: going to put places to lock your bikes up with

572
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Speaker 6: because one of the biggest problems we have is the

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Speaker 6: homeless stealing bikes.

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Speaker 1: Everly, we live and drive around all these people that

575
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Speaker 1: voted for the ten billion dollars we're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna give this guy.

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Speaker 6: Do you believe that Atha is the name of Otani's

578
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 6: othern mint that he was using to cover his hand

579
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Speaker 6: while he was making wagers.

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Speaker 2: These were hot.

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Speaker 6: Wagers could have burned his hand, so Ipe volunteered give

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Speaker 6: his name.

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00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 4: Keep Atani's hands safe.

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Speaker 2: Both stories over board, John, You're absolutely right.

585
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Speaker 1: Whoever voted this bill in are idiots, and maybe they

586
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: need the money that's passed to help the homeless.

587
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: With mental health.

588
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: I think they need the mental health, so they probably

589
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Speaker 1: voted it in so they could get their free mental health.

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00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: Thank you for leaving your message, Please hang up, goodbye.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's the moistline conways here.

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Speaker 12: Hey, now, Alex Michaelson's coming on with us. We also

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Speaker 12: have the Kate Middleton News she has cancer. That's a

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Speaker 12: really bad story. And over four and forty thousand Starbucks

595
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Speaker 12: holiday mugs are recalled because of burn and cut hazards.

596
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 12: You know, people freak out they like to get their

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Speaker 12: coffee mug from Starbucks for the holidays. Yeah, are you

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Speaker 12: one of those cats? I never go to Starbucks. I

599
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 12: never had a cup of coffee. You've never had a

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Speaker 12: cup of coffee from Starbucks anywhere?

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Speaker 2: I never have.

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Speaker 12: You never had one cup of coffee in your life? Wow, man,

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Speaker 12: you're not burn.

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Speaker 3: I sipped it a couple of times and it was

605
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Speaker 3: too hot, That's true.

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Speaker 12: I was gonna volunteer because I have mornings off. I

607
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Speaker 12: had nothing to do in the mornings. I was going

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Speaker 12: to volunteer at a at a retirement home in Burbank.

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Speaker 2: And because a buddy of mine.

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Speaker 12: Does it, and he says, you know, it helps a

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Speaker 12: lot of people out a lot of people listening to KFI.

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Speaker 12: I'm like, okay, So I go it. I do the

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Speaker 12: background search and I'm unaccepted. And they sent me a

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Speaker 12: letter saying that they that they didn't accept me.

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Speaker 2: What did they find in your back? They won't tell me.

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Speaker 2: You know what, you know what I think. It is

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Speaker 2: what I think.

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Speaker 12: It's my OnlyFans page.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to know about that. I don't think

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Speaker 2: they're into it. I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to think about it. But I also

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Speaker 3: don't want to give it up either. Well, that could

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Speaker 3: be good, Bundy, all right, it's not bad. Crozier's got

624
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