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Speaker 2: To no one's surprised the Dodgers get Trek's Scuble. I
Speaker 2: think the surprise might have been, are you giving up
Speaker 2: big time talent to get him? And I think the
Speaker 2: general consensus was could other teams have done this? Probably?
Speaker 2: But here's the problem with that. Trek Scuble had the
Speaker 2: leverage by saying he wanted to go to the Dodgers
Speaker 2: wanted to go to the West Coast. Therefore, you took
Speaker 2: away a lot of the leverage that maybe the Tigers
Speaker 2: would have had of what they got in return. The
Speaker 2: key will be moving forward, the kind of contract Trek
Speaker 2: Scouble is going to want, And of course looming large
Speaker 2: is is there going to be a lockout at some point?
Speaker 2: Do we lose a baseball season? Do we look back
Speaker 2: on trek Scuoble and go that's when we finally decided
Speaker 2: we had to do something. Get a salary cap. I'm okay.
Speaker 2: If you want to do a salary cap, if you're
Speaker 2: going to have a floor that's raised as well, I
Speaker 2: think you got to be fair to the amount of
Speaker 2: money that the owners are making. The players Association is
Speaker 2: going to be if you're having a salary cap, you've
Speaker 2: got to at least raise the floor so we know
Speaker 2: that you're going to have salaries that are at least
Speaker 2: commensurate to other teams in the league. Now, you can
Speaker 2: spend money stupidly like the Mets did, it's not. The
Speaker 2: Dodgers know how to do this organizationally. That's what separates them.
Speaker 2: You can have a really good minor league system. You
Speaker 2: can also go out and spend for free agents, you know, trades.
Speaker 2: They've done everything, and you've got a brilliant front office
Speaker 2: who found a way to circumvent the salary cap and
Speaker 2: the rest of the baseball hierarchy here. So I applaud
Speaker 2: them for what they did. If I'm a Dodger fan,
Speaker 2: that's what I want my ownership to do. Now. Am
Speaker 2: I worried about the rest of baseball? I guess if
Speaker 2: you said, hey, you know what, because of this, the
Speaker 2: way your team is, this is what's going to happen
Speaker 2: in the meantime. Hey, I'm riding the merry go round.
Speaker 2: This is great. I wonder if Sho heeo Tani's injuries
Speaker 2: may have led to the Dodgers saying we have to
Speaker 2: have trek skoubl. It's not a situation of hey, this
Speaker 2: would be a luxury item. It might be something that
Speaker 2: they truly need. And keep this in mind, for all
Speaker 2: the spending the Dodgers had, how close did the Blue
Speaker 2: Jays come to winning the World Series last year? When
Speaker 2: you are in a seven game series and all it
Speaker 2: takes is one pitcher or two pitchers to get hot,
Speaker 2: or one bat or two bats to get hot, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden things change. So, yes, the Dodgers
Speaker 2: prohibitive favorites even before the trade deadline. By the way,
Speaker 2: later today is the trade deadline. But if you're looking
Speaker 2: at World Series odds, yes, the Dodgers are prohibitive favorites
Speaker 2: at plus one fifty, the Yankees at plus six hundred,
Speaker 2: that's really it. Then it goes down to the Brewers
Speaker 2: at plus one thousand, the Braves plus one thousand, the
Speaker 2: Rays plus fourteen hundred. So yes, is it top heavy
Speaker 2: with the Yankees and the Dodgers, Yes, it is. But
Speaker 2: I thought the Brewer is going to try to jump in.
Speaker 2: And if you put trek Skouble with miss Rowski, look out,
Speaker 2: because then you can take on anybody if you have
Speaker 2: two hammers, like that. I always go back to Randy
Speaker 2: Johnson and Kirk Shilling when the Diamondbacks had them. They
Speaker 2: had hammers and you had to deal with them. But
Speaker 2: back then, pitchers were going seven to eight, maybe even
Speaker 2: nine innings. Obviously, the game has changed and the Dodgers.
Speaker 2: The Dodgers did what I thought they were going to do.
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if they're done at the trade deadline, but
Speaker 2: we'll talk to Tim Kirchin. He'll join us coming up.
Speaker 2: All right, Dylan, poll question for the first hour is
Speaker 2: going to be, what, well, if you had.
Speaker 3: To bet on the World Series winner today, are you
Speaker 3: taking the Dodgers or the field.
Speaker 2: I'll take the field. I'll take the field. I'm not
Speaker 2: fully committed to that, but I for content purposes only,
Speaker 2: I would take the field. I just I've been around
Speaker 2: this too long where you just see something and you go,
Speaker 2: I didn't think that was going to happen. Now. Do
Speaker 2: I expect the Dodgers to win, Yes, but can you
Speaker 2: see where something happens? Yes, yeah, Paulie.
Speaker 4: The fact that you had to pause before picking the field,
Speaker 4: it's like the field should be the pick. But the
Speaker 4: Dodgers of that threatening, they're they're removing any possibility for
Speaker 4: an injury that messes them up. They could afford them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's really the key that if
Speaker 2: if Shoheyutani can't pitch again, or they're not going to
Speaker 2: pitch him, Okay, problem solved. I bring in Trek Scouble.
Speaker 2: They already got the line up there. They're outscoring the
Speaker 2: opposition by what's the number now, PAULI.
Speaker 4: The Dodgers have outscored their opponents by one hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty runs this year. There's only two teams that are
Speaker 4: over one hundred and five of They're always one of them.
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Speaker 2: Dylan Possible pull questions for hour one.
Speaker 3: Um A simple one. Are you in favor of a
Speaker 3: salary cap in baseball?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 2: Or no?
Speaker 3: And does this change the scooble to the Dodgers thing
Speaker 3: influence you in that way.
Speaker 2: I would think that everybody is going to be in
Speaker 2: favor unless you're a Dodger fan for the salary cap.
Speaker 2: The Players' Association wouldn't be in favor of it. But
Speaker 2: I think as a sports fan, if you look at
Speaker 2: the NBA and you've had eight different winners the last
Speaker 2: eight years, if that's what you want instead of when
Speaker 2: I was growing up, you always had that team. You
Speaker 2: had to beat that team. There was always the dynasty,
Speaker 2: whether it was the UCLA Bruins or you know, I
Speaker 2: grew up with a big red machine. You know, there
Speaker 2: was the Steel Curtain. You had that team you set
Speaker 2: your sights on and say we got to be better
Speaker 2: than them. You might be kind of parody. Everybody has
Speaker 2: a chance. The NFL gives you that every single year.
Speaker 2: So I would say most people outside of the player
Speaker 2: Association and Dodger fans would be in favor of a
Speaker 2: salary cap. Yeah, Paul, you.
Speaker 4: Know, like you said that, the salary floor has got
Speaker 4: to be more important because if you're a Pirates fan,
Speaker 4: I just looked at the Pirate's history. They made the
Speaker 4: postseason three times in the past thirty three years. That's
Speaker 4: that's less than ten percent. You got to get a
Speaker 4: chance to have a chance.
Speaker 2: Well, the Dodgers, they are now paying one hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty million dollars in luxury text. That's more than twelve
Speaker 2: total teams entire payroll. So there is a problem with that.
Speaker 2: It sounded like a stat.
Speaker 5: Of the day.
Speaker 2: Maybe you were just letting it breathe Is that what
Speaker 2: you were doing the anticipation there. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you were still going or not, but I was ready, Okay,
Speaker 2: I made eye contact with you. I was, you know,
Speaker 2: like laser focused. Yeah, well yeah, oh yeah, all right,
Speaker 2: so we'll come up with the pole question. Phone calls
Speaker 2: is always with best and worst of the weekend. I
Speaker 2: do have updated odds. By the way, Dylan will be
Speaker 2: betting on the Hall of Fame game on the next
Speaker 2: gambling podcast, right, yes, sir, okay, the Panthers are favored
Speaker 2: by one and a half over the Cardinals and the
Speaker 2: over unders thirty six and a half. Just let you know.
Speaker 2: And yes, I used to bet on preseason football. I
Speaker 2: used to bet on the Hall of Fame game. Oh
Speaker 2: that was sad, that very sad. Yes, marmon, how how
Speaker 2: low did you have to go preseason football. I know,
Speaker 2: but you're so you're you're so energized for football, you're
Speaker 2: waiting for it, and you're like, all right, preseason football,
Speaker 2: and you know, I've got depth charts. I'm thinking who's playing,
Speaker 2: how long they're playing, starters aren't playing, how good's their
Speaker 2: second string, you know, quarterback, running back, all of that stuff. No, sad,
Speaker 2: really sad, Yes, Dylan, you could argue that that's the
Speaker 2: sharp play.
Speaker 3: Like the best run I ever went on betting was
Speaker 3: I had a time where I was all over the
Speaker 3: preseason hockey point totals.
Speaker 2: Sad they weren't man all of a sudden, Brendan Sorosby
Speaker 2: doesn't look that bad, yes, bol Which.
Speaker 4: Is worse betting on the Hall of Fame game or
Speaker 4: being I did that your team wins the Hall of
Speaker 4: Fame game, like a fan base us like, if I'm
Speaker 4: a Cardinal fan, you know we won that game fourteen thirteen.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm just saying, if I'm a Cardinal fan,
Speaker 2: I'll take any victory. I like a scrimmage. Hey, you
Speaker 2: know what, we beat the Commanders, Yes, yes, Mark, No,
Speaker 2: don't do that because the Lions are on all four
Speaker 2: of their preseason games and then went on to sixteen.
Speaker 2: So I'm not sure if they want to do that.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Speaking of football, Sean McVay at his press conference was
Speaker 2: talking about the possibility of Aaron Donald returning.
Speaker 6: Hey, here's what I would tell you. There won't be
Speaker 6: any news on that front until we get back to
Speaker 6: Woodland Hills. You know, we have some different things, which
Speaker 6: you know, I know, I totally understand. What I don't
Speaker 6: want to do is put there's some conversations that we've had,
Speaker 6: We've loosely had some different timelines that are kind of temporary.
Speaker 6: I want to keep those between us, just you know,
Speaker 6: if something unforeseen happens, out of respect for him in
Speaker 6: the situation. But I know this, you know, the things
Speaker 6: are going in the right direction, and if there's an arrow,
Speaker 6: it's turning upwards.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: I'm even surprised that he's talking that much about this
Speaker 2: because it feels like, now, do I think something's going
Speaker 2: to happen? Yes, I do. I think that Aaron Donald
Speaker 2: will play because he's saying it's trending upward. I think
Speaker 2: you have an idea, a sense of this. If I'm
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald, I don't want to go to camp any
Speaker 2: sooner than I have to. But if I'm Sean McVay,
Speaker 2: I would probably take the approach of, hey, I want
Speaker 2: to talk about the players who were here, instead of
Speaker 2: the hypothetical, because then people will you know, you're going
Speaker 2: to write down his words, record his words, and then
Speaker 2: play the words back to him and what happened. So
Speaker 2: I think staying off the topic, even though he's excited
Speaker 2: about the possibility, I would probably remove myself from the
Speaker 2: hypothetical of Aaron Donald just say, you know, I got
Speaker 2: to set a deadline at some point. I think when
Speaker 2: they go back from training camp, then he's gonna have
Speaker 2: something to say, and I think that it probably will
Speaker 2: be that Aaron Donald is going to come back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, PAULI, the deadline for Aaron Donald should be during
Speaker 4: the national anthem in Week one, he walks on the
Speaker 4: field shirtless. I put him in the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's gonna play. It feels like there's
Speaker 2: I haven't heard any setbacks. I haven't heard anything of
Speaker 2: you know what, there's a chance that maybe he's not
Speaker 2: coming back. But I do think that when you can
Speaker 2: hear it in his voice, you can hear it in
Speaker 2: his voice that he's having some fun with this. He's
Speaker 2: excited about this, and rightfully so.
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Speaker 2: Best and worst to the weekend. Here's Dodger manager Dave
Speaker 2: Roberts on criticism regarding the trade for Terry Skooble.
Speaker 8: There's it just seems like there's always blowback with us.
Speaker 8: People are passionate. We feel good about it. There's nothing
Speaker 8: that we did that no one else couldn't have done.
Speaker 8: You know, I just lot our front office or you know,
Speaker 8: we have to have the players to be able to
Speaker 8: pull something like this off. And you know we still
Speaker 8: got you know, parkably one of the top two or
Speaker 8: three or one or two or three farm systems in baseball,
Speaker 8: you know, a day later. So it's a credit to
Speaker 8: a lot of people in this organization.
Speaker 2: He's right about that with the farm system to have
Speaker 2: the pieces that you can trade away to get Trek's scouble.
Speaker 2: Tim Kirkchin, Tim Kirkchin, ESPN Baseball Trade Deadline. They have
Speaker 2: a special on the Mothership from four to six Eastern.
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Speaker 2: All right, Timmy, where do you stand on what the
Speaker 2: Dodgers pulled off here with Trek Scuble?
Speaker 9: How a problem with this? I mean, is it healthy Dan,
Speaker 9: that the payroll disparities is what it is in the
Speaker 9: major leagues right now? No, it's not healthy, But that's
Speaker 9: not the Dodgers fault. A lot of other teams are
Speaker 9: spending a lot of money and people don't like to
Speaker 9: hear this, but the Dodgers are an exceptionally run organization.
Speaker 9: They draft and develop better than most teams, they teach
Speaker 9: better than most teams, So they were in a position
Speaker 9: to do this and a lot and Dave Roberts is right,
Speaker 9: a lot of other teams could have gone out and
Speaker 9: gotten trek Skuble with the understanding of course, they have
Speaker 9: the resources and the money that other teams don't have.
Speaker 9: But when it comes to the resources, they've built that
Speaker 9: organization so well, that's how they have a really really
Speaker 9: good farm system them are able to make a deal
Speaker 9: like this.
Speaker 2: Does getting schooball now give the Dodgers a luxury of
Speaker 2: not having to pitch Otani at any time over the
Speaker 2: next month or so.
Speaker 9: Yes, I think it does, And I think they want him.
Speaker 9: I know they want him to pitch in October. But
Speaker 9: when you get Blake Snell back, and you have Snell
Speaker 9: and Yamamoto and Scooble, and when they get Tyler glass
Speaker 9: now back and they have Roki Sazaki, it's it's one
Speaker 9: hundred miles an hour with a great split. That's already
Speaker 9: five guys right there without Otani. Now they Otani to pitch.
Speaker 9: I think Otani will pitch before the end of the season.
Speaker 9: But this indeed gives them the opportunity to say, we
Speaker 9: need him as a great offensive player, and if pitching
Speaker 9: is in any way going to get in the way
Speaker 9: of that, we don't have to pitch him because we
Speaker 9: just acquired the best pitcher in the American League.
Speaker 2: How do the Dodgers not win the World Series?
Speaker 9: Well, Dan, you played both sports, and you recognize that
Speaker 9: anything can happen in baseball, and you have the best
Speaker 9: players on a basketball team, and they work really well together,
Speaker 9: and Michael and Larry touch it on every possession. That's
Speaker 9: different than in baseball because Show is only in about
Speaker 9: four or five times a game, and they might not
Speaker 9: pitch to him. But I think the Dodgers are the
Speaker 9: clear favorites to win the World Series again, in part
Speaker 9: because their roster is just so ridiculously deep, and now
Speaker 9: they're pitch staff is equally deep.
Speaker 2: Let's get to the expensive elephant in the room about
Speaker 2: what this is going to mean for baseball as we
Speaker 2: move forward and the CBA and Players Association and all
Speaker 2: that mess that we know is looming here.
Speaker 9: Tim, Yeah, mess is a good word for it, Dan,
Speaker 9: And I am worried like everyone else that there will
Speaker 9: be a lockout there will be games lost next year,
Speaker 9: we might lose the whole season. Let's hope none of
Speaker 9: that is true. But this, this is where we are
Speaker 9: right now. The two sides are really far apart. Wasn't
Speaker 9: that long ago Someone who would know told me never
Speaker 9: seen the side this far apart with a deadline looming
Speaker 9: this close. So let's just hope that everyone recognizes there
Speaker 9: is so much money to be lost in this game
Speaker 9: if we don't play by the players, hand by the owners,
Speaker 9: and maybe somehow someone will find a way to put
Speaker 9: this together. But if the owners think they're going to
Speaker 9: get a salary cap from the players, I just don't
Speaker 9: think that's going to happen. And that's why I think
Speaker 9: we're going to have a work stoppage at this point.
Speaker 2: But if you look at seventy percent of teams reinvest
Speaker 2: less than fifty percent of their revenue back into their
Speaker 2: own teams. The recent study had that. So is it
Speaker 2: a salary floor that we need more than we need
Speaker 2: a salary cap.
Speaker 9: I'm not even sure a floor fixes fixes the situation
Speaker 9: either day. Let's just say you have a ninety million
Speaker 9: dollar payroll and you're not very good, and you're gonna lose.
Speaker 9: You know you're going to win sixty eight games, and
Speaker 9: then they make you spend one hundred and fifty million,
Speaker 9: and then you win seventy two games and you only
Speaker 9: finish four games higher, and you still don't make the playoffs.
Speaker 9: Just because you have a floor doesn't mean you're going
Speaker 9: to solve the problem. Is it worth a try? Yes,
Speaker 9: it's worth to try. Am I in favor of it? Yes,
Speaker 9: I am. But it's not going to solve all the problems.
Speaker 9: The problems are too big to be solved just by
Speaker 9: a salary floor.
Speaker 2: I thought about this. I saw this the anniversary nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty and I thought of you. The Tigers traded their
Speaker 2: manager Jimmy Dike's to the Indians for their manager, Joe Gordon.
Speaker 2: I figured you would have a story something to add
Speaker 2: to this.
Speaker 9: Knowing you, I'm not sure I have a manager for
Speaker 9: manager story. I was only three years old at the time, Dan,
Speaker 9: But it just goes to show you how beautiful this
Speaker 9: game is that just when you think you've seen everything,
Speaker 9: something else happened. It's just it's just the craziest, stupidest,
Speaker 9: best game ever, and it's going to be proven again
Speaker 9: today because something's going to happen at the trade deadline.
Speaker 9: It's just going to make our us slap our foreheads
Speaker 9: like we do all the time. But that's why baseball
Speaker 9: is so great is it's so unpredictable and I never
Speaker 9: know what's going to be around the corner. This year.
Speaker 9: I've been wrong Dan so many times about so many things,
Speaker 9: so many teams, and I'm not apologizing to anybody for it,
Speaker 9: because it just proves dead. The game is so beautiful,
Speaker 9: it's too good to be predicted. And Dan, it troubles
Speaker 9: me a little bit that we're trying to predict what
Speaker 9: a player is going to look like five years from now,
Speaker 9: or a team is going to look like five years
Speaker 9: from now, and we don't even know it's going to
Speaker 9: look like five minutes from now. That's just how the
Speaker 9: game operates.
Speaker 2: Are you surprised like I am, that the mic cackage
Speaker 2: Fritz Peterson swapping wives they were teammates hasn't been made
Speaker 2: into a movie yet.
Speaker 9: The children to Dan imagine doing that? I mean, I just.
Speaker 2: Yes, named children be named later. I think.
Speaker 9: For a fifth grader to be named later. No, I'm
Speaker 9: shocked that more wasn't made out of that At the time. Magine, Dan,
Speaker 9: if something like that were to happen today, with Twitter
Speaker 9: x whatever it's called, the Internet, all that stuff, it
Speaker 9: would be total bedlam. Yes, I think at some point
Speaker 9: someone needs to make a movie about that, because it
Speaker 9: actually happened between Major League baseball players.
Speaker 2: Thanks for squeezing us in. I know you're busy. Safe travels,
Speaker 2: Thank you, Timmy.
Speaker 9: All right, Dan, see it.
Speaker 2: That's Tim Kirkchin of the mothership.
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Speaker 2: Larry Fitzgerald in the on deck circle for the Pro
Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame coming up this Saturday, seventeen seasons
Speaker 2: as the Cardinals wide receiver, eleven time Pro Bowler and
Speaker 2: second NFL receiving touchdown leader and part of the All
Speaker 2: Decade team First ballid Hall of Fame. Running down the list.
Speaker 2: Pretty good resume there, Larry. Congratulations on the honor. How
Speaker 2: long would it take for you to get ready? If
Speaker 2: you know, like we're waiting for Aaron Donald, how long
Speaker 2: would it take for you to get ready for this season?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 10: I think that ship is sos No, there's no coming
Speaker 10: back for me, you know. I you know, thinking about
Speaker 10: what Aaron's you know, he's one of those guys.
Speaker 5: He's a fitness freak though.
Speaker 10: You know, he's a big guy, and you know he
Speaker 10: just constantly stays in shape. That's kind of part of
Speaker 10: his rituals. So I think his bounce back will be
Speaker 10: a lot quicker. But to be out of the game
Speaker 10: for a few years and get back into that the trenches,
Speaker 10: the double teams and all of the things that he's
Speaker 10: got to deal with, you know's that's quite impressive.
Speaker 2: You think he's coming back. I think he's one of those.
Speaker 10: Guys who loves the game, and he's going back to
Speaker 10: a team who legitimately has a great chance to be
Speaker 10: able to win a championship with the dishon the Miles Garrett.
Speaker 10: You put those two and you know, Young and a
Speaker 10: couple of other guys in that defensive front, you know,
Speaker 10: they they present a formidable challenge for any offensive line
Speaker 10: and scheme that they would play against. And he obviously
Speaker 10: you know with Puka, Davonte Adams and you know Kurrn Williams,
Speaker 10: you know Kirwin and I mean they're loaded over there.
Speaker 2: What is it about pitt Guys? How did you end
Speaker 2: up at pitt Dan?
Speaker 10: It was actually a crazy story. Mobrins the coordinator guy Rest.
Speaker 10: His soul's name was Ed Cole. He was taking me
Speaker 10: in a couple of my teammates and unofficial visits. So
Speaker 10: we went to University Illinois, we went to Notre Day
Speaker 10: and we're Howe State and we were on our way
Speaker 10: to Penn State. It was a really really bad, uh
Speaker 10: you know, rainstorm or the turnpike, so actually shut the
Speaker 10: turnpike down based on visiting and so stay trooper shut
Speaker 10: it down. My coach said, hey, we can't get up there.
Speaker 10: We call Penn State let them know what happened. They said,
Speaker 10: can we can? We rescheduled for the following day. So
Speaker 10: we had a full day in Pittsburgh and Coach Cole said, hey,
Speaker 10: we're here in town, why don't we just go visit
Speaker 10: University of Pittsburgh. You know Dan Marinos, Tonya Dur said
Speaker 10: Curtis Martin. He started naming off all the great players,
Speaker 10: and I said, yeah, let's let's let's go by.
Speaker 5: Literally we go over, we meet Wildhare, Shady Brook, Hard,
Speaker 5: you know, all the coaching staff there.
Speaker 10: They had no idea who I was. We end up
Speaker 10: leaving the next day, we're driving the Pennchtate. They called
Speaker 10: my coach's cell phone. They offered me a scholarship, and
Speaker 10: it just kind of started from there.
Speaker 2: So if you don't have that rainstorm, you might not
Speaker 2: have ended up at Pitt.
Speaker 10: There's no chance I would have been there, because they
Speaker 10: didn't really they don't.
Speaker 5: They don't recruit Minnesota.
Speaker 10: That's not some place they actually go, and so there's
Speaker 10: zero zero percent chance I would have gone there.
Speaker 2: When did you know you were good?
Speaker 5: I would say when I was when I was young.
Speaker 10: I mean I was always better than everybody I played against,
Speaker 10: even at seven years old.
Speaker 5: But everybody used to always say, you're from Minnesota.
Speaker 10: You know you play you know you play three eight
Speaker 10: three a high school football.
Speaker 5: Your competition is horrible. And so I had that seate
Speaker 5: of doubt in.
Speaker 10: My mind a little bit that the competition was just
Speaker 10: that bad. And then I got to college and about
Speaker 10: week two I realized that I had what it to
Speaker 10: not only just be there, but actually be a good player.
Speaker 10: And if I continue to stay on that trajectory, I
Speaker 10: might have a chance.
Speaker 2: And of course, your dad was a longtime sports writer.
Speaker 2: You're up there in Minnesota covering the Vikings, you get
Speaker 2: to be a ball boy. You've talked about that experience
Speaker 2: many times, but the fact that Randy moss Is knocks
Speaker 2: on your door to tell you you're going into the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame take us back to the first time
Speaker 2: you met Randy Moss.
Speaker 5: So my first memory of Randy is pretty vivid.
Speaker 10: I was a ball boy, and me and a couple
Speaker 10: of ball boys were actually in the gym at Mankato
Speaker 10: State and it was they could walk through the gym
Speaker 10: to head to the practice field, and we were in
Speaker 10: there playing basketball, shooting horse and Randy had to walk
Speaker 10: through out there.
Speaker 5: So they were getting ready to walk through, and it
Speaker 5: was his birthday.
Speaker 10: I think he held out of camp for you know,
Speaker 10: a day or two or so, I can't remember, but
Speaker 10: it was his first day. So it was a huge anticipation,
Speaker 10: and obviously, you know, we'd all followed this journey at
Speaker 10: Marshall and he wanted to see him. And I remember
Speaker 10: him like throws the ball and he hit like two
Speaker 10: three pointers from like about two feet behind the three
Speaker 10: point lines, and before he before he comes and the
Speaker 10: dunks it outside.
Speaker 5: You know, it's like, you know, the circle there, and.
Speaker 10: He dunks it and he walks out, and I'm like,
Speaker 10: oh my gosh, this.
Speaker 5: Is so unbelievable.
Speaker 10: I'm fourteen years old at the time and just so
Speaker 10: enamored and like, that was my first experience of Moss.
Speaker 2: What was your welcome to the NFL moment.
Speaker 10: Happened Week two we my rookie year. We played the
Speaker 10: New England Patriots, and I'll never forget. I was going
Speaker 10: to running across the route and William McGinnis like rearranged
Speaker 10: my whole face masses back when they used to really
Speaker 10: like collision you and he was dropping out in the
Speaker 10: coverage and I wasn't paying attention and he decapitated me.
Speaker 10: I got up and then my coach was like, you
Speaker 10: gotta be more physical, you gotta be more physical.
Speaker 5: So it's quarters.
Speaker 10: I come up and I hit Rodney here because as
Speaker 10: hard as I can drop them on the ground, and
Speaker 10: to look in his eyes, he's chasing me back to
Speaker 10: the huddle and I get back to the syl I'm like, coach,
Speaker 10: why did you have me do to this man? It
Speaker 10: is absolutely crazy? And he proceeded to chase me around
Speaker 10: the rest of the game. I could not wait till
Speaker 10: that game was over, and I realized, like, why the
Speaker 10: Patriots defense.
Speaker 5: You know, they had Teddy Bruski and Mike Brabel and.
Speaker 10: Ted Johnson, and I mean, like, these dudes were Vince
Speaker 10: will Fork. I mean these dudes were massive, physical, mean, aggressive.
Speaker 5: Angry men. And I learned that at twenty years old
Speaker 5: very quick.
Speaker 2: I could imagine Rodney Harrison was going to get you back,
Speaker 2: because Rodney Rodney got everybody. I remember he told me
Speaker 2: that he got fined or got suspended. He he had
Speaker 2: a shot on Jerry Rice across the middle. He said,
Speaker 2: I took him out. That's what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 2: Game's changed a little bit since that Larry.
Speaker 5: It has, it has.
Speaker 10: I think it's much better. Guys can play a lot longer,
Speaker 10: and you know, I think we need we needed to
Speaker 10: make the game a little bit safer. It's it's it's
Speaker 10: not as nearly as violent going across that middle. You know,
Speaker 10: the Steve at Waters and the Joey Browners and the
Speaker 10: Jack Tatums of the world, you know, would be very
Speaker 10: disappointed in a way we play game.
Speaker 2: Now we're talking to Larry Fitzgerald got the big speech
Speaker 2: coming up. How many times you practiced it?
Speaker 10: I practiced it a ton of times, actually working very
Speaker 10: closely with a former colleague of yours, Jerry Madaline, you know,
Speaker 10: helping me kind of get trying to get prepared for it, so, uh,
Speaker 10: you know, five or six times a day so to
Speaker 10: make sure I have it, have it down pad on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Okay, are tears in the script?
Speaker 5: Tears are never in the script. You know, you know that,
Speaker 5: But you never know how you're going to respond.
Speaker 10: You know, you see family and friends and people who
Speaker 10: have really played a massive role in your life shitting
Speaker 10: in the front, and you know, I just don't know
Speaker 10: how I'm going to respond to to them, you know,
Speaker 10: if they're emotional, or one of my kids is emotional.
Speaker 5: You know, things you can't really practice that.
Speaker 2: And your son is going to induct you, Yes.
Speaker 10: Sir, my oldest son, Devin, He's going to come out
Speaker 10: and do it. I'm really really happy. I was going
Speaker 10: to originally have my father do it before he passed
Speaker 10: away a couple of months ago. But you know, to
Speaker 10: be able to have my son do it, it's it's
Speaker 10: a tremendous honor, and I'm so privileged to have that.
Speaker 2: Well, it's going to be tough when you see your
Speaker 2: son out there and he starts talking about dad.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I got my daughter's wedding coming up in two weeks
Speaker 2: and I got to give a speech and I'm already
Speaker 2: a mess. I practice it every single day, and I'm
Speaker 2: a mess when nobody is there listening to me. So
Speaker 2: I can't imagine what that's going.
Speaker 5: To be like.
Speaker 2: You're gonna you're gonna see your life in front of
Speaker 2: you with all teammates, former teammates and people from college
Speaker 2: and high school, and you'll probably be a mess. And
Speaker 2: that's okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely will be. Dan.
Speaker 10: Let me ask you this, Are you going to be
Speaker 10: crying because of the speech and emotions or are you
Speaker 10: going to be thinking about how much it costs you
Speaker 10: for your daughter's wedding?
Speaker 5: What will be Well?
Speaker 2: I already cried. I already cried about that. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: as I told people, it takes a village to put
Speaker 2: on a wedding. It takes a bank account as well
Speaker 2: to put on on a wedding. But yeah, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: going to be a mess, and I don't know how
Speaker 2: to prevent myself from crying. Has anybody told you if
Speaker 2: you do this, you might not cry, or this is
Speaker 2: the best thing to do to not be too emotional.
Speaker 10: No, I think that it will draw emotions. And people
Speaker 10: told me it's going to be one of the most
Speaker 10: emotional things you've ever done. You know you have, You've
Speaker 10: been planned for thirty years and you know this is
Speaker 10: the culmination of that, the greatest honor you could ever have,
Speaker 10: and so it should it should be emotional.
Speaker 5: It shouldn't mean something to you.
Speaker 10: But I think the more you practice and the more
Speaker 10: you're prepared, you know, when you do have those emotions,
Speaker 10: you can be able to work through it and get
Speaker 10: back to the messages you're trying to deliver.
Speaker 2: And acknowledging your father as well.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, Yeah, Pops played a big role.
Speaker 10: Just none of it would even be possible it wasn't
Speaker 10: for his sacrifices. You know, he put me in these
Speaker 10: positions around people that I could learn from and have
Speaker 10: some wonderful mentors, and so you know, his presence and
Speaker 10: and his just breadth of knowledge and fingerprints are all
Speaker 10: over my life.
Speaker 2: Uh, go back to the Randy Moss loaning you as
Speaker 2: car when you went to prom What what kind of
Speaker 2: car was it that Randy Moss lent you?
Speaker 5: It was?
Speaker 10: It was a lou seven forty five l I I
Speaker 10: still remember like it was yesterday.
Speaker 5: It was. It was immaculine shape.
Speaker 10: And you know, once a small detail I left out
Speaker 10: when I asked him about it was, you know, I
Speaker 10: didn't I didn't know. I didn't tell him that I
Speaker 10: didn't have my driver's license yet, and so, you know,
Speaker 10: and I.
Speaker 5: Don't know how. I don't know how your dad was.
Speaker 10: But my dad when he was home, because he was
Speaker 10: always traveling covering the twins in the summertime, he was
Speaker 10: in Kansas City or Detroit or Cleveland or Chicago company
Speaker 10: to White Sox. So when he got home, he really
Speaker 10: didn't want to he was trying to be home, and
Speaker 10: so he would have throw me the keys to the
Speaker 10: Pontiac and I would just get to drive up to
Speaker 10: the park and go practice and work out. And so
Speaker 10: he would always just tell me to take the backstreet,
Speaker 10: so I felt like I could drive. I never went
Speaker 10: on the freeway or anything like that to the side street,
Speaker 10: so I felt like I was pretty I was pretty
Speaker 10: solid with the car. But I never really had anybody
Speaker 10: else in the car with me, you know, so it
Speaker 10: was a it was a memory. I got it back
Speaker 10: to him, no issues. I didn't I didn't tell my dates,
Speaker 10: Mom and dadd either.
Speaker 5: I didn't have a license ed. We kept all those
Speaker 5: things to ourselves.
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. Can you can you thank your hands
Speaker 2: during your Hall of Fame speech for me? Just a
Speaker 2: little comic relief up there?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: I think was it Freddie Mitchell who thanked his hands?
Speaker 2: Remember the Eagles wide receiver? I think you thanked his hands.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're not. You're not somebody who is.
Speaker 10: That's not really much. That's not really much, jam And uh,
Speaker 10: you know, I feel like I did. I did have
Speaker 10: good hands, but I worked at it.
Speaker 5: You know. It was thousands and thousands of.
Speaker 10: Hours of you know, catching catching balls consistently to try
Speaker 10: to get them to where they were.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but see, you didn't fall in line with the
Speaker 2: diva wide receivers that.
Speaker 5: I was just as big.
Speaker 10: I was just as big of a diva as everyone else.
Speaker 10: But I never I never did it in public. You know,
Speaker 10: I'd always keep it to myself or you know, if
Speaker 10: I had a question about targets things that maketure I
Speaker 10: would do it in a way where you know, it
Speaker 10: wasn't showing up anybody or didn't put me in a
Speaker 10: position where I would, you know, seem to be more
Speaker 10: more worried about my own personal you know, ask and
Speaker 10: accomplishments than it was for my team. And so you know,
Speaker 10: I wanted it just as bad as anybody else did,
Speaker 10: but I knew there was a way to do it,
Speaker 10: in a way not to do it, in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Congrats, been fun watching and uh, you know this is uh,
Speaker 2: this is your moment. You've earned it, first Balance Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer. Good luck this weekend.
Speaker 10: Thank you, Thank you great seeing you out of Tahoe.
Speaker 10: And congratulations to you and your family on your daughter's wedding.
Speaker 10: And I hope you have an amazing time. Thank you,
Speaker 10: Larry all Right, they have a great day.