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Speaker 2: It's spookyoky.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's dead. He's coming this way.

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, i'sed.

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Speaker 1: Was says, hey boo, it's me Roz.

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Speaker 3: I had a great time with a friend of mine,

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Speaker 3: the hilarious, brilliant Drew DROGHI, who I have worked with.

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Speaker 3: I have no clue how many times. We've done so

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Speaker 3: many shows together, a lot of like, uh, Golden Girls

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Speaker 3: and you know, kind of can't be fun comedy show.

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Speaker 3: We've done so many different things together. And I loved

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Speaker 3: Drew so much. And he was on very early on

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Speaker 3: in the pod. Go back and listen because he does

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Speaker 3: have some great stories.

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Speaker 1: Then and we get.

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Speaker 3: Into one today and then we talk about some other stuff.

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Speaker 3: It was just so fun, so fun, so I say,

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Speaker 3: let's just do it. I was in a weird mood

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Speaker 3: that day that we recorded. I was just feeling I

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Speaker 3: think this was my first one back after the holiday break,

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Speaker 3: and I was being I was just being loose and

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Speaker 3: silly at certain points you'll see what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, I hope you enjoyed this conversation with Drew Drogy.

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Speaker 3: On with the show, I am joined by a repeat customer,

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Speaker 3: a dear friend who was on the show very early

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Speaker 3: on and now he's back.

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Speaker 1: Drew DROGHI, Hello.

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Speaker 2: Hi ros, Hello, this is wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the new space.

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Speaker 2: Face is gorgeous. Just get see it. But it's really

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Speaker 1: So are you you deserve It's just the loveliest. Hi, darling,

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Speaker 1: how are you. I'm all right, Happy New Year.

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Speaker 2: Happy new to you. I'm just ready to I'm a

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Speaker 2: weirdo that loves January, so I'm very happy to get

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Speaker 2: great to see the family. I get really sluggish and

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Speaker 3: You know, I'll say, the most depressing thing and this.

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Speaker 3: I am exploring this with my therapist, who I think listens.

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Speaker 1: To the show. Shut Out. You know who you are.

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Speaker 3: Because my therapist, it was revealed to me, is also

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Speaker 3: a ghost hunter. Oh of course it's another story.

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Speaker 1: I love you. You can totally listen. This is great.

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Speaker 3: You've changed my life, thank you. Uh so, what I

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Speaker 1: And then Christmas is like when showbis closed.

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Speaker 1: The two weeks of the year I have no hope.

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Speaker 2: Oh honey, you are preaching the choir. I'm exact same person.

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Speaker 2: I sort of feel that around Thanksgiving when I know, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: It's so depressing how and if I don't really I'm

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Speaker 3: This is a story I heard from our mutual friend

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Speaker 2: It was incredible and we went. We stayed in a

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Speaker 3: Those poor ghosts are probably I know, I know, well

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Speaker 2: This is.

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Speaker 1: The story of Lady Wonder.

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Speaker 2: Oh I like it already.

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Speaker 3: Lady Wonder was a psychic horse. What, yes, I never

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Speaker 3: heard this before. So Lady Wonder was born in February

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Speaker 2: It's the same.

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Speaker 1: In Richmond, Virginia.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, I've been.

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Speaker 1: Oh it is okay.

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Speaker 3: So she when she was a few weeks old, she

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Speaker 2: Okay, any relation to I don't know.

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Speaker 3: These there's I know these Fondas, so missus Fonda. I

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Speaker 1: And they were like she bottle fed.

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Speaker 3: she trained her using children's would blocks with numbers and

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Speaker 3: And there's a story that one time she spelled out

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Speaker 2: What and then engine That's like it's a long word,

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Speaker 3: And then yes, it's six and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: So over time she got real good and Clarence, the

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Speaker 3: could like spell things out with her nose. Actually, here

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Speaker 2: This one's definite Fonda.

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Speaker 1: This one's Missus Fonda. This one is Lady Wonder doing

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Speaker 3: So she's getting good at spelling these words with her nose,

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Speaker 1: But also.

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Speaker 3: Things would things would come up that were just a

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Speaker 3: Claudia was going, you know what, she's we got a

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Speaker 1: One dollar for people.

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Speaker 3: They can come from wherever and they can ask my

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Speaker 3: baby girl three questions. So they start, they put signs

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Speaker 1: Okay, three questions for a bus. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Apparently she would call elections, she would predict winners of

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Speaker 2: So they were all asking her like psycho like future

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Speaker 3: I think anything, because well she could she could guess

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Speaker 3: I don't know Jane, but she predicted the winner, who

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Speaker 3: They would also do things like if they had a

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Speaker 2: What is happening? That is crazy?

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Speaker 1: And that's up. But take me yeah, no, no, she

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I can't even spill up seriously.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is that's unbelievable. That is so wild. Now

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Speaker 1: It might have. Yeah, I think the timeline I.

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Speaker 2: Mean was fifties. It would be, it would have been

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Speaker 1: And she was still going in the fifties.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay she watched this little long time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it says in nineteen fifty two. At this point,

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Speaker 2: Her completely silver main.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Lady Wonder.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So a little boy was missing in Massachusetts and

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Speaker 1: They're like yeah. She's like, surely you've checked the water pit.

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Speaker 2: But either way, it doesn't sound like you hang out

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Speaker 3: Here's what actually happened. She spelled out the word pits

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Speaker 2: She was older. I mean, I mean, I get it.

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Speaker 2: Now, and you just wonder to like, I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 3: R Well, it's like they even took the time to

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Speaker 2: I mean, you had to train no matter how psychic

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Speaker 3: But you know, they say it's hereditary, so she could

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Speaker 3: So to be fair, she was wrong a lot of

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they were putting little carrots under

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Speaker 3: But a psychologist named Thomas L. Garrett studied her and.

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Speaker 2: G A R R E T T yep. Oh, I

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Speaker 2: I bet where I'm related. You relate to the Garrett

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it might be him.

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Speaker 3: he must be related to me.

443
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 2: He's hilarious.

444
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 3: But he did say she's the real deal. Wow, So wow,

445
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 3: are you still related to it?

446
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 2: Yeah? I will claim him.

447
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 3: There was a magician named Milbourne Christopher Oh, and he

448
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 3: said that she is well trained, but she is not

449
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: a psychic m So she left this realm in nineteen

450
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 3: fifty seven. Allegedly she saw an estimated one hundred and

451
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 3: fifty thousand clients.

452
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 1: What her career.

453
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say one hundred and

454
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 2: fifty and I would have been like that would have

455
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 2: been crazy. But one hundred and fifty thousand clients back then?

456
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 2: Like thinking about how many people. That was like, she.

457
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: Was in business for thirty years.

458
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: Now did she get tired? Devisive? The moments of being

459
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: like she can only do so much every day, but

460
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 2: she's a whole like you know, I mean I would

461
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 2: think that. I mean, I think psychic sock all the

462
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 2: time of being like, it's just too much, I need

463
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 2: to go take a nap. Yeah, too many things talking

464
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 2: to me?

465
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: She I don't know. She was dedicated to helping people.

466
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 2: Again, she I love that. I love that.

467
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: It's so funny.

468
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 3: That is, But so to end the story, two years later,

469
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 3: missus Fonda died, So we'll never know for sure, but

470
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: from one thing I read online, missus Fonda also had

471
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 3: a Pomeranian named Pudgie who could play the piano.

472
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I can't get my name to even say I'mmaranian.

473
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: First of all, a Pomeranian a piano? How did it

474
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 2: play a piano?

475
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 1: It's a Pomoran that built one like he did.

476
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 2: Like a little one, a little baby piano for a

477
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 2: Pomeranian piano.

478
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: So they were obviously animal trainers.

479
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 2: What were the Funda's favorite liquors of choice?

480
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 3: But one hundred and fifty thousand people, you know whether

481
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 3: she was right or not.

482
00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: They tell her, Wow, that is so wid all of

483
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: the you know, she found where the little boy was

484
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 1: in the water pit.

485
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 2: Listen, I mean I don't I that is that is

486
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 2: that is so beyond comprehension. Do you go to psychic

487
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: a lot? Do you look?

488
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: Do you a psychic? I go to fifty of them

489
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: a week?

490
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 2: Okay, I know that you go if you'd been to

491
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 2: a couple, I know that you've been to a hand

492
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 2: have you? No? I never have, really, I never have.

493
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 2: It's one of those things that I think it would

494
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 2: be it would be interesting, but because I've heard too

495
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: many people say like incredible things, like you're just like

496
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: it was unbelievable what happened.

497
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: My thing is I no longer if someone goes, oh

498
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 3: I got someone really good for you, I'm like, they're

499
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 3: really good for you, hopefully they'd be good for me, right,

500
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 3: because I've also given also recommended people to people, and

501
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 3: then it's not as good of a connection or whatever.

502
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: I don't Actually Chris Colfer is really good friends with

503
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 3: an incredible psychic that I had on this podcast named Charmargolis,

504
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 3: and she's amazing.

505
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know.

506
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: I think I've been to so many psychics that I

507
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: have a lot of thoughts on them.

508
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: I think it's fun. Yeah, it's fun to hear.

509
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I've only ever.

510
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: Been to human psychics, though I'm considering.

511
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 2: You need to go to a horse.

512
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: You need to go to a horse or a Pomeranian

513
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: or something.

514
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 2: There was psychic cat down at the Third Street Promenade

515
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: in Santa Monica, really saying, okay, is it real, Oh,

516
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 2: it must be. It's on Third Street Promenade. It was

517
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 2: like they would set you have to get little permits

518
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: for like people play guitar and sing or whatever they

519
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: would do. And there was one little I remember for years.

520
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure this cat is no longer with us because

521
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 2: I've lived la for twenty three years, so this was

522
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: when I first moved out here. There was a cat

523
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: that had like a Genie hat on that was just

524
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 2: set in this cage and I just said, psych get cat,

525
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 2: and yeah, I'm wondering, I'm wondering if there's a picture

526
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 2: of that. It was pretty wonderful. That is so odd,

527
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: and it would just point to things like I think

528
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: you had to like that's basically what lady, Maybe ask

529
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: it yes or no questions or something like that. And

530
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: I think that would and it would just have a

531
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: yes or a no, and they would have it would

532
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 2: have treats in front of the yes and the no.

533
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 2: It would just sort of it would sort of pick whatever,

534
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 2: doing that all day. I'm sure the cat didn't live

535
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: very long just eating.

536
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 3: Wait a second, wait, it's there's an article remembering Psychic Cat,

537
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 3: a great Los Angeles character.

538
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, is this the cat?

539
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 2: Yep?

540
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: Is it smoking a cigar?

541
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,959
Speaker 2: Is picture they've doctored it to it? Yeah, that it's

542
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 2: smoking a cigarette, but it also is like photoshopped. Oh okay,

543
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: I mean it couldn't smoke and be a psychic That

544
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 2: would just be too great.

545
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: Wait a second, I need to know about the psychic cat.

546
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 3: So this is from twenty seventeen. It says yesterday we attended.

547
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: This is from esotoric dot com. Yesterday we attended the

548
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 3: annual laying to rest the ashes of the unclaimed at

549
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 3: the County Crematory and Cemetery. Wait wait, wait, wait, wait,

550
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 3: but what about the psychic cat.

551
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: I would be shocked if the cat died in twenty

552
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 2: seventeen unless there were two cats, because I feel like

553
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: I saw a psychic cat in nineteen ninety nine, and unless it.

554
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: Was, it says the psychic Catsky wore elaborate velvet ropes, yes,

555
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: and had names like Cassandra Nostra Damas and Sister Clara clairevariants.

556
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 3: On each stroll you'd find a color photo of your

557
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: elegant seer on one side. They're generous, if slightly incoherent

558
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: predictions on the other.

559
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: Oh okay.

560
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: Booking this act wasn't as simple as calling a phone

561
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: number or sending an email. Leo could usually be found

562
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 3: working on the thursd Street promenade.

563
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: Yep, see there you go, So Leo was who was there?

564
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: The cat? Same was Leo? Or is that the owner's name?

565
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 3: I'm not sure this is too much to read from

566
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: me right now, but I will definitely be looking into this.

567
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for telling me.

568
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I haven't thought of psychic caten forever, but it

569
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: was quite the staple.

570
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: You ever think about haunted dolls that are for sale

571
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: on eBay?

572
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: I don't, but i'd like to, oka I should.

573
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: Well, I got one for you.

574
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: This one here is currently for sale for sixty five dollars.

575
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: Okay, and i'd like for you to check her out.

576
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: This is Helen, Hi Helen. She looks terrifying dolls like

577
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: from this era? What era it is like turn of

578
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: the century maybe, like like.

579
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: Very yeah, like almost doily dressed.

580
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

581
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

582
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: As someone from the South, I immediately I turn off

583
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 2: by like country cutesy.

584
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: Things like Gingham.

585
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: Let me see. Yeah it's Gingham. It's with like pearls

586
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: and a lot of hair.

587
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 3: Well, the good news is she comes with a biography.

588
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: Oh so you can learn a little bit more about

589
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 3: her for sixty five bucks.

590
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: I bet she's she from like the forties because of

591
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: that hair.

592
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: Well. Here's the thing.

593
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: I'm very involved in the eBay Haunted doll community. Okay, okay,

594
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 3: And so if you're new around here, basically the concept

595
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 3: is a ghost or demon has somehow gotten into this doll,

596
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 3: and now you are going to buy the doll. But

597
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: with it comes a spirit. So sometimes they're not even

598
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: they have nothing to do with the look of the doll.

599
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 3: It's just somebody that somehow got in there. They just

600
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: woke up and it's toy story, right. So it says here,

601
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 3: this creepy old broad is Helen. Oh she's an interesting girl,

602
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 3: but she is super creepy, but I really don't think

603
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 3: that she means to be. She's just shy, I think.

604
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: But either way, she can be extremely creepy. She doesn't talk.

605
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: Like at all.

606
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: Okay, that's creepy.

607
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: She's a doll. Yeah, so this adds to her creep factor.

608
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: Okay, how many times is creep in this description?

609
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? TLC hasn't had more creep in one. Okay.

610
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 3: So she likes to observe you and watch you, but

611
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: she won't ever talk to you. She will just sit

612
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: back from afar and watch you and all. I think

613
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: she misses out on doing daily activities, and this is

614
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: why she watches so much. That's just the feeling I

615
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: get when she's around. I haven't had her for very long,

616
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: and she may open up when she's not around so

617
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: many other active spirits. I think she's just very overshadowed

618
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: by all the other spirits of my home. The reason

619
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 3: I say that she's mean is specifically because some of

620
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: the other spirits that I have around told me that

621
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 3: she's mean to them. I really don't think she likes

622
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: being around so many others, and maybe that's why she's

623
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: so mean to them. That's how I found out her

624
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: name because they would all complain about her. I had

625
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: no idea who they were talking about.

626
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: Be aware of that, mind, Helen. Be aware that when you.

627
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 3: Adopt her, if you don't have any other spirits around,

628
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: she may become attached to you.

629
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: So just be aware of that before you adopt her.

630
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: Thank you.

631
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: So she's done nothing based on this. She doesn't talk.

632
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: Does other spirits say that she's mean to them? But

633
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: she has But this owner basically says she's shy and

634
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: she hasn't done anything.

635
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: That's correct.

636
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: So I would think this would be like a real

637
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: lemon of a purchase if you're trying to get like

638
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: your first haunted doll and it's Helen.

639
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it would be not where you want

640
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: to start, But I think it's a I.

641
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 3: Think it's a safe approach to say, just so you know,

642
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 3: this one doesn't do anything, like there's a good chance

643
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: I see a lot of these ads that will say

644
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 3: just so you know, something might never happen right right

645
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 3: right right, or like this one in particular just just

646
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: kind of sits there right.

647
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: And we also don't know that the spirit or demon

648
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: or whatever that's in the doll hell Helen in Helen

649
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: in this particular case, travels with the doll, Like, we

650
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: don't know that the spirit doesn't go into something else

651
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: in the space, if the space is where the spirit

652
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: is contained and happens to be in that like you know,

653
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.

654
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: I think that the idea is supposed to be that

655
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: it is attached to the doll and that when you

656
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 3: buy this doll, you get Helen.

657
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: I mean, Helen sounds fine to me. I just don't

658
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: She doesn't sound that bad, but I don't think she

659
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: sounds that interesting either. Want I want one that would

660
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: did maybe something anything. It growls occasionally, Yeah.

661
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 3: I find a lot that like to watch TV, it says,

662
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 3: and sometimes it'll say specific TV shows that they like

663
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: to watch, or just like little things like that.

664
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot of gossipy ones I find.

665
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: Oh, she never stops gossiping about the other dolls.

666
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 2: That's what I'd want. I'd want to real gossipy one.

667
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 2: But then you want to get you want to get

668
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 2: at least six or eight dolls so that the that

669
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: you need to get a menagerie, so that you get

670
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: so you hear all the all the ship about all

671
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: the other dolls.

672
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: Is that my retirement plan?

673
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely?

674
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: Basically that. Can I please some ghost voices?

675
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: Yes?

676
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: Okay, it's not for EVP or ev please. Do you

677
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: remember this segment?

678
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 2: No?

679
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: Okay?

680
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: Oh okay, it's vaguely coming back to me.

681
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: EVP Electronic Voice Phenomenal.

682
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: Okay, it's when people ghost hunters capture the voice of

683
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: a ghost.

684
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 2: Okay.

685
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 3: So I go to YouTube and I find two evp's

686
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: every episode.

687
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna play it for you.

688
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 3: Tell me what you hear, and I'll tell you the

689
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 3: correct answer according to what the ghost hunter believes it says.

690
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me just plug this in real quick.

691
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: Do I need headphones for this? Yes?

692
00:35:48,160 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, let me plug this before you do that. Okay.

693
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 3: This first one is from South Carolina Paranormal Research and Investigations.

694
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 2: Oh. I love it. I was just in South Carolina.

695
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: That's where you're from, right, my mom?

696
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm Asli family. I'm mainly mainly North Carolina.

697
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, well this is an organization called scp

698
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: r a I South Carolina Paranormal Research and Investigations.

699
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: I love it. Do you know what does it say?

700
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 2: What town or city?

701
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: It's in Yes, what in heath Springs.

702
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: I don't know Heath Springs. I'm not familiar. I bet

703
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: my mom does. I bet my mom does. She knows

704
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: the entire state very well.

705
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: But so here we go.

706
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: Why does this ghost in a private residence in hot

707
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 3: Heath Springs, South Carolina?

708
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: Saying? Wait?

709
00:36:54,080 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: And I need to turn it up. There is some

710
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: slight tap dancing.

711
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: Well, there are some dishes being stacked.

712
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 1: Do you hear the whisper?

713
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? One more? That's not that's not funny Wade.

714
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 3: That's not funny Wade. That's not funny Wade. Okay, so

715
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 3: that's not what they think it's said. I'm realizing now

716
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 3: the options. I did this over Christmas break and I

717
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: was loopy. So everyone forgive me, because this is this

718
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 3: is what the options say. I may or may not

719
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: have written these, is it a I can't say this?

720
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: Why did I write this as so farty?

721
00:37:52,680 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: Oh that's just filthy, so funny. I could hear that.

722
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: I could hear ask so farty, but the end doesn't

723
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: sound like farty as much as funny or something else.

724
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: Okay, funny?

725
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: Way that is it?

726
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 3: Be?

727
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: Ask me nicely?

728
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 2: Oh, let me hear it again.

729
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: No, so funny, is it C that's so funny?

730
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: Okay that I thought I could guess or D.

731
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, so fuck me.

732
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess. See, even though I wish it was D.

733
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 2: I want that ghost. I want Rizzo, the ghost living

734
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: in my home. Yeah, that's so funny.

735
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: That's what they believe, it's okay, I kind of hear. Yeah,

736
00:38:53,440 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: So sorry, I'm usuing. Not this immature or crass.

737
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: I love that New Year, New Year Year.

738
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 3: And this year I'm gonna be John Waters character. Okay,

739
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 3: So this was posted by the same people this next one, okay,

740
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 3: but this one's at the old Chester County Jail, Okay,

741
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 3: which is in Chester.

742
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: I've heard of Chester.

743
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: What is this ghost saying?

744
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 2: I know I'm hearing like Debbie Ralph, I don't know.

745
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: I like how it kind of grap.

746
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: And there's always there's always like some sort of like

747
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: tapping and commotion happening. Wild voice goes underneath it. It

748
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: makes me think of that I've already told the story.

749
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: But when I heard the considoo campo, so I want socks.

750
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: I heard the little girl say, I want socks. It

751
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: was while they were playing a sound track of tap dancing.

752
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: So I wonder if there's some sort of thing of

753
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: like a distraction and like we were sliding in on.

754
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 1: The interesting They're like, oh, this is when I should talk. Yeah,

755
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: and you will hear me. Wow. They did not think

756
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: it was Debbie Ralph?

757
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: What were there? What were their choice?

758
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: The old Chester County jail.

759
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't use jail. I didn't think about it

760
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 2: being in a jail.

761
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe there wasn't inmate named Debbie Ralph. I mean

762
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: she sounds great, she sounds wonderful.

763
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 2: Definitely full of crimes, okay.

764
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: Debbie ral Is it a get it all? Is it B?

765
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 1: Get it out?

766
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 2: Okay? Is it C? Gimme old or D.

767
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: Get the psychic?

768
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: K I want to say B let me hear again

769
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 2: or give me more. I'm hearing that now.

770
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: They believe it's B get it out.

771
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: Get it out? Okay.

772
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're referring to.

773
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: I know, right, wow, get it out. That one's harder

774
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: to understand.

775
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: Oh Chester weird ghost Yeah?

776
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, Drew, let's do one last thing. Oh wait,

777
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: I want to do another thing. I was sent to

778
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 3: ghost story. It's a pretty quick little story. Oh great,

779
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: I wanted to read it to you because it kind

780
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: of reminded me of you, because remember you told me

781
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 3: on the show that you had like a very intimate

782
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: experience with a spirit, yeah your home and yeah.

783
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: Not quite ghost sex, right, No, it wasn't sex, but

784
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 2: it was very I felt like I felt like the

785
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: weight on top of me, like exploring me, on.

786
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: Top of me, exploring.

787
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 2: And standing over me. I felt like, and yeah, and

788
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: then getting on top and feeling the weight of something.

789
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: And I was not at all freaked out by it.

790
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 2: Whoa until the next morning and I thought about it,

791
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: But in the moment, I was just sort of like, oh, okay,

792
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: so like ghosts or cats, it was like a cat

793
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 2: crawling on you, just exploring, like all of you.

794
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: Doing that weird thing that cuts yes when they push

795
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 3: you down. Well, this is a it's just similar in

796
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: some ways but kind of creepy. This was sent to

797
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 3: me by listener Brandon. Brandon, thank you for sending me this.

798
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 3: And I love reading people's ghost stories, so please send

799
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 3: him my way, either ghosted by rosigmail dot com or

800
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 3: in the Facebook group or whatever. Ornified our review. Okay,

801
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: so Brandon writes high Raws last year, I moved back

802
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 3: to New York City and was living in Brooklyn. I

803
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: was asleep in my room one night and was awoken

804
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 3: by the feeling of someone pinching my butt. I was

805
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 3: asleep on my stomach as I usually sleep, and was

806
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 3: shocked by the feeling of someone touching my butt while

807
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 3: I slept. I got up and looked around my room.

808
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 3: No one was there. My door was locked, and I

809
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 3: heard my roommates out in the kitchen. So I opened

810
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 3: my door and I asked them if this house is haunted,

811
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 3: and they asked why, and I told them he I believed.

812
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: The roommate said, an old man died in that room

813
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: in his sleep, and the person who had the room

814
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: before felt someone this is their word, fucking him in

815
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 3: his sleep.

816
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: That dirty old ghost, dirty.

817
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: Old man pinching butts.

818
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

819
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you do in that scenario, It's like

820
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: you just move there.

821
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: New York is, you know, not the easiest place to

822
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: move to, you guys, right, right, right right.

823
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: So it's like you gotta stay. You got to get

824
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 3: the ghosts.

825
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: And the ghost will get tired of fucking you, like

826
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: like you know, you get tired of the sex at

827
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: a certain point, the ghost will be like it's this

828
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 2: prone again.

829
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 3: It could be I don't know. Maybe the ghost is

830
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 3: very monogamy minded though, oh.

831
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 2: Well maybe so that is crazy. Speaking of John Waters,

832
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: he always says that his favorite ghost porn, he's into

833
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: ghost porn. Oh I didn't know that, and it was

834
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: it's called my ass is Haunted. Yes, I did. And

835
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 2: even the one time and he said that, he said,

836
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: he was like, have you seen my asses haunted? And

837
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: I was, I've never seen a ghost porn. But of

838
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: course that investigation line. I don't know. But there's a

839
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: whole world.

840
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 3: I've said before many times that fart so ghost of food.

841
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: Yes they are, you think absolutely it's true.

842
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: Anyway, thank you, Brandon.

843
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 2: Brandon and I say, enjoy the ride. It gets really

844
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 2: you know, problematic.

845
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's creepy. Don't just be pension. Yeah, yeah, I

846
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: don't like that.

847
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to wake up and anything

848
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: is entering me like I'm just I've been asleep. I

849
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: don't want that at all, and so I can imagine

850
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: it's very disconcerting.

851
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not okay, No, it's a lot.

852
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: It's a lot easier to just let it happen than

853
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: to move in New York.

854
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: Keep me updated. I need to know what's going on

855
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: with this. I think, what would you do? Would you

856
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 3: get rid of it? I would get rid of it.

857
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 2: Get rid of the ghost?

858
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: I would, Yes, how do you do that? I would?

859
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 3: Well me personally, I got a lot of people in

860
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: my phone contacts that I feel I could call and

861
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 3: they would come go in there and light some shit

862
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 3: and say some shit and.

863
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: Get it out. Uh huh, uh huh.

864
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: There's a lot of different people you could look up.

865
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: But I mean the people I know live in LA

866
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: or whatever. So that's why I say that. But yeah,

867
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it depends what your beliefs are. Maybe you

868
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 3: call a priest if that's what you believe in.

869
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that's yeah.

870
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: I think whatever it is that you believe, if somebody's

871
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 3: strong with their conviction, they could tell something to leave,

872
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 3: or you know, some people will say you could tell

873
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 3: the thing to leave. Yeah, just go get the fuck.

874
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: Out of here. I remember like communicating with mine. I

875
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: don't believe I was verbal, but I remember having a

876
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 2: communication with Mine being like, because I had just moved

877
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: into this is not where I live now, but another place,

878
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 2: and I remember being like, it's fine with me that

879
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: you're here, if you're fine with me being here, like

880
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: can we we can coexist. I remember I was like

881
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: very much in that headspace with being like, all right,

882
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: it's cool if you're here, because that place that I

883
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: lived had not been had been it had been a

884
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: few months since anybody had lived there, so I think

885
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: whatever spirit was there was had been there for a while,

886
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: and it's feeling like, oh, this is all mine, and

887
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: so when I'm a ben, it was sort of like

888
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: what's here. So it's kind of like, hey, if you

889
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: let me stay, I'll let you stay. But I only

890
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: had very few interactions with that, so I either it

891
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: just got on board with me, or I didn't give

892
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: it whatever tension it wanted, or or it left or

893
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: I don't know, or just hung out just quietly. I

894
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: have no idea.

895
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 3: I think in this scenario, I would just try. I

896
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 3: would turn into the creep to the ghost and I

897
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 3: would just be.

898
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: Like you like that, you like that, but pitch away?

899
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 1: You like my keyster, my keyster?

900
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah don't. That's definitely like speaking in the terminology of

901
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 2: the Ghost Times. Oh yeah, you know, that's giving the

902
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: ghost a lot of fodder.

903
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you like that.

904
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: You like my dumper poop shoot, my slop shop, new Year,

905
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 2: New you.

906
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 1: Okay, last thing.

907
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna list off a bunch of paranormal things

908
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 3: and tell me.

909
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: If you got a thought on it, a story.

910
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know, Okay, something Okay? First one up?

911
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: Demons?

912
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what about them?

913
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: Do you believe in?

914
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, you do? Absolutely? I love demons. I mean

915
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: I grew up like in the like in the South,

916
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: and we were constantly being told to be afraid of

917
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,479
Speaker 2: the devil and witchcraft and like Satanism, and I find

918
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: all of that's so funny and fascinating.

919
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 3: And do you still is there still a part of

920
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 3: you that believes in that kind of stuff?

921
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: I don't believe in, Like I don't believe that there's

922
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 2: like there's like demons at play now. And if I

923
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 2: don't know, I think those are those are things that

924
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: are like really like lovely pleasurable vices that we've turned

925
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 2: into that human vices that we've turned into interesting into

926
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: that are not always pleasurable, like some of is there

927
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: horrible human vices that we have that are in us

928
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: as human beings that we've we've said like I was

929
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 2: possessed by demons of right, you know, selfishness or or

930
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 2: hatred or whatever addiction.

931
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about so we're how do you feel about witchcraft?

932
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: Oh? I love it. I'm I don't practice witchcraft, but

933
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people who do, and especially

934
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: white witch craft. Is that what it's called, Like when

935
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: it's more like and white ladies do it, it's fine?

936
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 2: Is that? Is that a problem? Now? But like when

937
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: it's when it's more like when it's less about conjuring

938
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: demons and like.

939
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 3: Most of the time because like if it's not, it's

940
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 3: not what we were told.

941
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: Well it also so like witchcraft is such a misogynist

942
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: thing because it was used to like hate on like

943
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: nurses who were actually helping. Like this was something that

944
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,959
Speaker 2: was a lot in Scotland, was that you know, there

945
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 2: there were all these like nurses who couldn't like save

946
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: people's lives and they were considered witches and they were

947
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: like burned or drowned or whatever, and they were actually

948
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 2: trying to help people and they just couldn't help everyone.

949
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 2: Or women who spoke out were considered witches because they

950
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 2: had opinions and they you know, or maybe they were

951
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: queer or trans or whatever at the time, and they

952
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: were like they've got some witch in them, you know.

953
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,479
Speaker 2: So it was always used to like shame and hold

954
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: women back. I think a lot of it it's that.

955
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 2: So I'm all about anyone embracing that side of it.

956
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: And I think there's got to be a connection to

957
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: science and nature and all of it, and like it's

958
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: just like you would use We've we've found in medicine,

959
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: We've found in certain things like oh this actually cures this,

960
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: this actually helps you know, and you learn to those things.

961
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 2: I just saw a great documentary called All That Brief

962
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: This about these two these brothers in India who are

963
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: are helping these birds. And there's a type of bird

964
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: in India that has evolved into using cigarette butts. There's

965
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: so many cigarette butts in the city. They use them

966
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: to ward off insects. They realize that they can build

967
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 2: nests around them and insects will not will not like

968
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 2: hurt their them or their babies. Isn't that amazing? That's evolution.

969
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: That's like a bird realizing like this thing we keep

970
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: finding it keeps the bugs away.

971
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: Wow.

972
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. Cool, And so you know, I think that's all

973
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: witchcraft in a way. It's like, you know, figuring out

974
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 2: the world and you know, and.

975
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: Evolutions are witchcraft.

976
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 3: I think that even cooking like a soup or like,

977
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, making anything, recipes in your huh, alchemy.

978
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: Detales, all of it is like sort of yeah, I

979
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 2: love it.

980
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: I love it all too, and it smells good. Yes, witchcraft.

981
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, when you went to Scotland, how about the

982
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 3: Lockness monster.

983
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: We did not see the luck Next monster. Uh sure,

984
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, you know, I I I definitely

985
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 2: believe there's there's got to be something there. I will

986
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 2: say when we were there, it's very narrow. It was

987
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 2: really long and narrow, and the way and it's it's

988
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: always foggy, and the waves were very like thick, like

989
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: I could see that was like very gray thick waves

990
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: that you know, it wasn't it wasn't highway. It wasn't

991
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: like you know, tidal or anything. It's a lake so

992
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 2: or a lock rather, which I guess is a lake. Yeah,

993
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: same thing, Drew. Yeah, So I can see how you

994
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: can see the waves and and sort of imagine something.

995
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: But I don't know why not. I I I choose

996
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: to believe in things instead of just disbelieve. It's like sure, yeah, yeah.

997
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna ask you my favorite one synchronicities and

998
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 3: just you know, are you somebody that puts meaning on

999
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 3: different things in live? Are you somebody that goes, oh,

1000
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 3: that was supposed to happen when it happened, or there's

1001
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 3: a reason to it.

1002
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really, I'm not really interested in knowing

1003
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: what that reason is. But I'm always really happy when

1004
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 2: something sinks up that way. I always I do believe

1005
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: in like with like a deja vu or I do

1006
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 2: think when you learn a word and then that word

1007
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 2: pops up later in the day, I think there is

1008
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: some sort of thing in terms of things are going

1009
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 2: the right way, like you were supposed to learn that

1010
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 2: in that moment, or that was supposed to happen for

1011
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: you in that moment, or that you know someone's deja

1012
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: vu is just a reminder to remember the moment. I'm

1013
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: totally watching that, but just the idea when that happens

1014
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: for you. It's sort of like I don't know if

1015
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: I saw this in a movie or if I actually

1016
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: heard someone actually sort of with a belief in this.

1017
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 2: But just like when you're having deja vu, you can

1018
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: take that opportunity to be like, oh, this is important

1019
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 2: for me to remember this moment right now. My brain's

1020
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: saying this is important for whatever reason.

1021
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 3: See to me, I always I always view dejah vu

1022
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 3: as it's confirmation that you're where you're supposed to be.

1023
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, or whatever.

1024
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, same thing, past lives. What do you think is

1025
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 3: that a real concept?

1026
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 2: I like the concept a lot. I'd be really interested

1027
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 2: in knowing, like who I was in a past life.

1028
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: I've never felt like I was anyone in a past life.

1029
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: I do think people live in the time they're supposed

1030
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 2: to live in, for good or bad. Like I do

1031
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 2: think there's something in that. Yes, we're all like born

1032
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: before our time or after our time or whatever, because

1033
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: I think, like, oh god, if I was alive in

1034
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 2: the seventies, if I was, I would be so much happier.

1035
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: But I think that's just you have it an affinity

1036
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 2: for a time period or whatever.

1037
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, but then when you're there, like.

1038
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 2: Nobody lived through the seventies enjoyed it. Everyone's like we

1039
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: were miserable and it was hell and we were not

1040
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 2: all just like on the set of Boogie Nights, like

1041
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: wearing cool clothes and you know so Yeah. No, I

1042
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 2: do think like we are in this time for the

1043
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 2: you know the reason. But I do think like I

1044
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 2: think it's exciting interesting that we can sort of pass.

1045
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: I think energy goes somewhere, like I do believe, you know,

1046
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: when we die, that we I think we have a

1047
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 2: soul that goes somewhere.

1048
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: And a haunted doll.

1049
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: Sure hang out in a doll, honey, or in a horse, sure,

1050
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: I mean, please, I would. I think I would rather

1051
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: be born into a doll than born into a horse.

1052
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't want people sitting on me.

1053
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: No, Like horses have really hard lives. They are just

1054
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 2: basically just like.

1055
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: They're those horseshoes they put, yes.

1056
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 2: They just made, and they just make them do all

1057
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 2: the work.

1058
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't. I don't want people sitting on me.

1059
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'd rather just hang out on a shelf

1060
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 2: and be like rude to the other dolls. That says

1061
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: everything about me, I agree, instead of like being active

1062
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:51,720
Speaker 2: and working.

1063
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: Dude, this was it? You did it again?

1064
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 2: Did it?

1065
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 3: People should go back and listen to the first time

1066
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 3: you were on because you told a different story.

1067
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 2: Oh my god, thank you for having me. This is

1068
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 2: always so much fun. I never knew where we were

1069
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: going to go that I love it.

1070
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: Where do you want people to find you?

1071
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: Find me at psychiccat Dot No. No, uh, I'm on

1072
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 2: Twitter at Drew Rogi. I'm on Instagram at Drew Underscore Drogie.

1073
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 2: That's it. I'm on Facebook. Is anyone still on Facebook?

1074
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: I am really? Yeah, I don't know.

1075
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: No, it's okay. Yeah.

1076
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: Well convinced you're a witch.

1077
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 2: I hope.

1078
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 3: So thank you so much to Drew Droghi. And hey,

1079
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 3: we do we use Facebook over here. There is a

1080
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 3: Facebook group called ghosted by Rons Hernandez. Join it if

1081
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 3: you're on Facebook. I love it when people leave me

1082
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 3: ghost stories there, and I love reading ghost stories like

1083
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 3: we did on this episode. So please send them on

1084
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 3: over put them in the Facebook group, put them in

1085
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 3: a five star review on Apple Podcasts, or just you know,

1086
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 3: say something nice about If you don't have a story

1087
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 3: to share, or you don't just say anything, just rate

1088
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 3: it five stars. You can also do that on Spotify.

1089
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 3: Oh of course I always forget to tell you. Check

1090
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 3: out the video versions of these episodes. Most of them

1091
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 3: have video versions on YouTube. I put the link in

1092
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 3: the show notes the description of these episodes so you

1093
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 3: can find that there. And I'm on Instagram at roz Hernandez,

1094
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 3: TikTok and Twitter at It's raz Hernandez and be subscribed

1095
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 3: to the show. Tell your friends about it, all that stuff.

1096
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 3: I love you all, both living and dead. But if

1097
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 3: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.

1098
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: Came back a podcast network