WEBVTT - Episode 425 w/ DJ SPINDERELLA 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:16.120 He is drinke Chans Motherfucking Podcast. Make He's a legendary 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:18.800 queens rapper. He's agreed as your boy in O R E. 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:21.759 He's a Miami hip hop yoneer put up as d 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:22.720 J e f N. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.680 Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players, 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:26.239 you know what I mean. 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:30.040 And the most professional, unprofessional podcast. 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:33.400 And your number one source for drunk chans Mother every 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.920 day is New Year's c Listen, It's time for drink Champions. 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:44.000 Drink up, Mother Mother? What did it good? 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:44.080 Be? 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.199 Hoping to be your boy in O R E? What's 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:48.320 going on as DJ e f N this minit tempic 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:55.320 Cracy World Podcast? Make Some e f N. 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:57.840 When we started this show, we said we want to 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:00.840 give the flowers to icons. We said we wanted to 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:02.840 give the flowers to legends. We said we wanted to 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:05.320 give the flowers to people that came before us. This 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:07.880 person that were introduced them today is not only a 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:11.920 legendary DJ just a legend. It's just an icon. The 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:15.360 person that catacalyized the game. I don't even know how 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:18.720 to word spell it first. Definitely don't even even know 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.160 how to spell McDonald's. 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:25.280 She is icon. 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:30.120 Legend a person that if it wasn't for her, there 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:33.960 might not be you. And guess what, there might not 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:38.200 be me, There might not be us, there might not 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.200 be drink champs, there might not be nothing. 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:47.120 Respect the DJs, the mother fucking dj When we found 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:49.639 out that we had we booking her. 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:55.240 Immediately for a while, but I immediately asks for her 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:58.640 drink order, and I'm gonna be honest with you, her 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:00.800 drink order has to be the wildest we've ever saw it. 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.840 Really, I don't think she met all those drinks at 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:05.680 the same time. Do you do you want to you 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:06.320 do you want to say? 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:10.800 The drinks that she ordered, it's all vodka, tequila, Hanny 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:11.760 not Kanyac. 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:17.799 No, this was different people. Kanya. Yes, as you noticed, 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:21.920 ratchetness came out right. And then what else she said? No, no, no, 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:23.600 it's no no. 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:27.120 No, tequila whiskey and it's one more vodka. 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:28.919 That's aboutka first. 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:31.919 That's a Hennessy, that's a Hennessy privilege. 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.520 Okay, okay, But in case you don't know who we're 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:42.440 talking about, were talking about the legendary, iconic, oh goddess 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:47.960 person that I'm mad that we didn't throw flowers at 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:52.440 her feet when she walked through because I had just landed, 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:55.200 so I didn't I didn't think she don't. 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.240 Know who he's talking about. It's about the one only mother. 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:01.919 Wow. 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.160 So I'm I'm off top. I'mnna be honest, Jamie. 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:09.440 I'm doing vodking club soda immediately. Okay, are you doing 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.440 something doing kah oh yea. I ain't gonna lie, man, 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:13.200 I've been. 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:13.639 I've been. 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:17.280 I've been having conversations with your liver lately, with my 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:18.920 liver liver. 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.040 No, you're living texting my living and I'd be like, 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.560 like you know what I mean, like your living. 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:29.839 Chat and your living been. Like yo, man, this guy 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.400 like just drinking too much. Different ship. Like they want 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.600 you to stick. They want you to be black, stick 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.440 with one liquor and you stick with four. I'm sticking 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:41.280 with one. It's vodka and ma majuana. That's not one. 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.760 That's one combination. Then you got beer. No, I'm not 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:44.280 drinking beer. 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:45.080 Beer. 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.480 I drink beer after that's the afternoon. Ain't this drink cher, 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:55.160 You're mature drink. 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:59.640 So let's let's take it to the beginning, right, because 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.240 everyone one documents your career from when you got with 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:03.080 Salt Pepper, But. 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.600 You had a whole life prior to that. 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:10.160 I had a life period. I was not born in 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:17.880 Sultan pep. You know you're not having like that. I 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.360 started DJing before Salt and Pepper. But it wasn't like 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:23.360 I was trying to be a DJ, and I just 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:24.320 kind of picked it up. 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:26.360 My high school boyfriend. 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.680 Was a DJ, and I. 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.159 You know, used to go to his house after school 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:35.000 and we just would you know, be practicing, and he 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.240 had he had a set of turntables. So I was 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:43.000 learning the art and technique from him, and he did 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:44.919 a few parties, took me along with him, and so 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:46.280 I kind of picked it up there. 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:49.599 So so, okay, what was the DJ name you had done? 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:51.200 I didn't have a DJ name. 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:56.400 I was just DD. I mean that's a lot. I 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.880 mean that was enough for me. But I wasn't trying. 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:00.760 Like again, I wasn't trying to be a DJ. It 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.880 was just something I was interested in. But even before that, 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.880 my dad was a collector, so he collected all this, 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:10.279 you know, music collect music. He was an avid collector 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.760 of all like the music. He had vinyl all of 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.159 forty five. So I was from a child. 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:19.320 Familiar thing and hearing all. 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:25.520 The music, and I adopted you know, the music. You know, 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:32.040 I guess my vast uh nature of music came from 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:35.800 my dad. So I had that that before I even 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:37.520 started on turntables. 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:39.760 So let me let me, let me let me say something. 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.479 As an MC, I realized the other day I always 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:43.360 been jealous of the DJ. 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.000 Really, yes, I mean that's how it all started. You 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:48.120 guys were jealous of the DJ. 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:50.880 Yeah, you know, I'm not gonna By the way, this 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:51.640 is so constant. 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:53.520 This is me talking sub consciousness. 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.040 When we had mad Skills the other day, and MAS 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.440 skills is like, yo, he prefers being a DJ over MC, 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:01.840 and I was appalled because I'm an MC and I 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:02.560 can't be a DJ. 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:03.479 I suck. I tried. 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:06.120 I could be an eye part DJ, that's about it. 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:12.800 But when I realized parts anymore. Okay, So so what 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:16.160 I realized was he said, he said, the reason why 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:19.000 I like DJ in a little bit more is because I'm. 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:20.599 Actually in control of the crowd. 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:25.040 I had never heard that, so I literally cringed you 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.440 a DJ, so you probably didn't catch it. So when 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.920 he said it, I was like, because as an MC, 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.799 if you don't like my music. I can't change your mind. 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:41.480 DJ can change versus one. So what kind of power 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:41.920 is that? 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:45.640 Like, I'm sorry, I know I'm all over the place, 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.640 but my DJ DJ butch Rock. 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:50.839 We'll go to the club an hour early. 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:54.000 And because I have a black crowd, I have a 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:54.920 Latino crowd. 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:56.240 I have a such a such crowd. 0:06:56.279 --> 0:07:00.360 So he'll go to the our earlier is black tonight. 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:05.080 We're being Latino tonight. We're being We're being black tonight. 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.120 We're being black Tino. You know what I'm saying, he'll do. 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:14.680 When I spoke to Mad Skills, he said he didn't 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:16.120 have to do that, he could just go and just 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:16.960 read the crowd. 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:19.920 And I was, I'm jealous of y'all. I'm just being 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:23.120 I should have told you this off scene, the heart 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.200 to that. I didn't know the heart to that. Like, 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.200 so we're not just hold on, hold on, hold on, 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:33.560 hold on, hold on, hold on. She need to drink. Yes, yes, yes, yes, 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:40.920 you noticed. I was like, yes, and ladies, first, ladies, ladies. 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.080 I don't know what do I want on the list? 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:46.680 Let me see? 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:57.280 Okay, yeah you got a long list. Yeah that's what 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:57.640 you want? 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:03.040 Yeah, okay, so so so let's get back to act. 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:08.040 The art of DJing. I always. 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:10.640 There's an art to it. 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:17.880 I always underestimated you guys until I actually investigating and 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:22.440 when I realized, holy ship, I ain't ship without a DJ. 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:24.520 How does that feel to control the crowd? 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:25.680 First of all, thank you for that. 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:27.680 I mean, I think that's a compliment because it all 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:33.160 started with the DJ, that's right. So the DJ would 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.240 would you know, lock their set and they would leave 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:40.520 a mic there for you know, someone to come up 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:45.160 and grab the mic into, you know, do some crowd 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.360 stuff in CrowdWork because they're working, they're they're up there 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:48.960 doing their thing. 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:50.520 But the power is. 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.480 It just it just feels good because you can change moods. 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:56.920 You can change. 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:02.360 You know people's uh wherever they are, they can be sad. Yeah, 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:06.000 you change the energy the vibes, and that's the most 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.360 beautiful thing. And there were times that I, of course 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.679 second guessed myself, just just as you, as an. 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:15.040 M C would be like, you know, I idolize the 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:15.360 m C. 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.200 Well, DJs would feel the same way in a sense 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:21.920 because we weren't always and I don't I'm going to 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:25.079 speak for myself. Sometimes the MC was always in it, 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.240 you know, in the front, and the DJ is is 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:31.720 the one behind. So but when you know your power, 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.880 and this is just with anything in life, when you 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:40.520 know your power, you use it. And I you know, 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:46.079 knowing that I could change people's mood and make them happy, sad, mad, 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.480 you know, whatever their vibe is, I can I can 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:53.319 change that. That that's powerful. So it's an It's inspiring 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.240 to me as well as to those that's listening. 0:09:56.760 --> 0:10:01.520 You know, to every DJ in the world, I apologize 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:06.400 for underestimating your job because I kid you not. It's 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:08.319 the first thing I think of when I think of 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:09.640 a party, I'm like, who's going to DJ? 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:11.720 You know what you really should think about is every 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:15.360 successful artist has a DJ. The DJ is the one 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:17.000 that made them success. Of DJ and the and the 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:20.839 obviously the consumer the audience was the DJ. 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:24.600 So let me ask you, I'm spending At one point, 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:26.760 the DJ was the focal point. 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.520 Like it was like it was like you did not 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.000 to say it like this, but you knew about rockhem 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.520 but you kind of came to see Eric B. I 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:40.199 don't want to like throw sort of salt and pepper. Damn, right, 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:41.480 that's not crazy. 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.400 I din't even realize, but at one point, you know, 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.839 people really came to see you, like like they were 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:51.600 like really like because the DJ was the forefront. When 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:56.280 did that transition from the DJ being everything to the 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.160 DJ being just behind? 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.360 Okay, I don't don't want to transition. I feel like 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.840 that was in Okay, let's think about it. The golden 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:07.640 era of hip hop is considered probably the late. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:11.240 Eighties, eighties to early nineties, early nineties. 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:15.440 To early nineties, and in that timeframe, so the late eighties, 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:19.160 think of all the groups that had DJs, Houdini on DMC, 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:24.839 l who J, Public Enemy, Public Enemy, Sultan Pepper, Jesse, Jeff, 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:31.480 First Prince, that was the thing, right, even EPMD would. 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:35.559 The Scratched you know once that moved, Gnaughty by Nature. 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:37.000 Boys with Hurricane, the. 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:42.760 Basti Boys, when that transitioned. I feel like that may 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:46.000 have happened when the gangster era came in. 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:51.240 Maybe you don't think instant replay I think had a 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:54.360 big part in that when when artists said we don't really. 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:59.120 Need we played equipment period, because we're saying when they moved. 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.400 Well, I'm looking at the time frame. I don't know, 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:07.800 like you know what particular, uh hardware. 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.880 There was, you know, that transition that I'm looking at 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.760 the time frame and when the DJ started to become 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:16.480 more like behind the scenes, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:18.480 It started to the MC was. 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:19.120 All in the front. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.920 So and that to me was around. 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:30.480 Eighty eight, no later, because because I mean, everybody's gonna say, 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:31.199 you're defending. 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.120 The groups, we're out in the nineties. 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:34.960 But even the gangster artists, like if you think about 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:40.960 nw A had Dre and Yellow Quick DJ Quick after 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:44.880 the fact, the alcoholics had East Swift and he's in 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:45.680 mid nineties. 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:46.800 Stick of mid nineties. 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.920 Yeah, well Tribe was out. You know, Tribe was my 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:53.400 ship and they had a DJ DJ. I mean even artists. 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.640 I'm just thinking of the time frame that when that 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:57.920 transition happened. 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:02.720 You had Wu Tang who was the DJ for Wu Tang. 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.000 Mathematic Yeah, yeah, okay, So but. 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.640 There was a switch there was a switch up that happened, 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.280 and I'm looking at the timeframe and I feel like 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.040 mid nineties to late nineties that changed. 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:17.480 That changed. 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:21.520 And I also remember when Kris One used. 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.800 To talk about the DJ back like he actually did 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:27.839 a song about DJs. This was like late was it 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.520 the late nineties, I'm not sure when it was, but 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.520 it made me think like he gave respect to the 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.480 djh this is after the fact, this is when the 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.280 DJ was kind of like in the background, faded out. 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.400 But yeah, I mean daylight Saw. I mean I could 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:44.800 go on and on how important the DJ is in 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.400 a group, especially when it comes to hip hop. 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:49.720 Well, at one point, the DJ was the most important, 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:56.040 like shit the beginning. Yeah, I would like this in 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.280 my own career. I remember at one point we used 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.679 to go to Europe before and they were like, get 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:01.080 them a steak. 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.640 Let's see what you DJ got. They said what they said, 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.240 we finished it, get. 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.439 Off and then they were like, because because that's the 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:15.280 concept we signed, our DJ will performed prior to us 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:25.000 and then afterwards and the crowd movement so hip hop 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:30.520 hip hop has been I feel like you come from 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:34.200 the purest form of hip hop and I feel like, yeah, 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:41.520 take some because And I'm gonna say it for myself. 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:46.480 I was in the same time as the other day 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:51.640 and my wife's friends pulled up and they was playing 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:56.760 some music that was horrible. I mean, no, no, no, no, 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:01.120 it wasn't horrible. It was horrible to my tasting. I'm 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.760 a forty six year old man, I'm married, I'm in love, 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.360 I have children, and I don't want to be hereing. 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:13.840 Okay, okay, I was appalled. What song was that? 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.520 That's what I want to know is St. Thomas? 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:19.720 It wasn't the St. Thomas song. 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:24.600 It was now it was you know your And when 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:30.400 I was listening to these the young woman lyrics, oh ship. 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:31.440 Who was you talking about? 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.440 You know what I'm saying about, I am now the 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.520 old man because I was saying, She's like, shoot up 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:39.440 your block to make you know me? 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:45.200 That shit is appalling. But they told my yeah, you 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:49.120 have officially crossed that line. I can't say, as I say, 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:49.760 I don't know what. 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.400 By the way, I don't I'm not offenditive of her, 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.440 but I was just like, damn, there's so much vulgar music, 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.840 Like if I have a kid right now, just I'm 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:00.640 gonna tell my kids listen to this. 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.360 Okay, So so let me just remind you of what 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:08.360 we listened to back then, some vulgar. I mean then 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.360 did we not forget Luke? 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.560 Do we not forget I mean little Kim and Foxy 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:22.000 ground right there? I mean come on, huh. 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:27.560 Oh, they had great things, but that was us. That 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:28.520 was us then. 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:32.160 So you know, we do have to consider that we 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:36.840 are older and our tastes have probably developed different experience 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:40.920 in life and just some things is just not suitable 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.000 for you as it was before. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:48.800 You know, especially that you have children now different and 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:49.360 that's okay. 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.320 You know, we got to but we cannot front on 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:55.640 the fact that we had vulgarity in our in our 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:56.200 music back. 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.920 I don't think it's vulgarity. It was vulgar. No, No, 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.080 I'm not saying. I'm saying, I'm that's the issue. Maybe 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:04.640 that I didn't even know push it was a sexual song. Yeah, 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:10.000 but it wasn't. I mean, talk about it. Let's talk 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:13.760 about it. I'm gonna be honest with you. But you 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:17.000 eighties artists listen, let me be honest with you. Eighties artists. 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:22.080 God exploit it sexuality, but they did it in taste 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:23.080 that I. 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.720 Later on in life quote on Oh, they're talking about 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:30.439 this like subliminals. It was slim. It wasn't. It wasn't, yo, 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:35.919 I'm gonna that's definitely wasn't that, like except I went 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.000 to I'm just saying, this is what they say you nowadays, 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:39.320 they're like. 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.359 Hey, man, I like that mystery. I like that mystery. 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:44.800 You know that's subliminate. Think of think of from a 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:48.040 TV standpoint, remember Three's Company. How how they would have 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:52.680 those subliminal jokes about sexual and those you know, but 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:54.440 it made you want to watch because it's like, you 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:55.520 know they're gonna say something. 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:59.120 It's gonna be like that, but nothing was ever said. 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:03.040 But you know, as an example for pushing it was 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.000 not a sexual song. 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:07.840 We were literally talking about dancing on the you know, 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:12.879 the dance floor, and people took that and took it. 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.720 The other way and it actually worked for us. So 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:17.760 I mean, I'm a. 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:29.000 True I was saying he thought of saying the words 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:35.440 is really similar, you know, trust me. 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:36.560 I was not saying that. 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.280 I was not saying that. But people, I mean, gosh, 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:42.800 we were almost arrested for that song. Like yeah, like 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.199 doing like being on stage and being told that if 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.240 you play that song. That happened to us as well, 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.720 if you play that song here to push it, wow, 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.280 you can get arrested. So there were times that that 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.680 was almost the case, and somehow we got, you know, 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:00.200 to a point where it was like you know, we 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:02.760 just had had to convince everybody that this is not 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.560 about what you think it's and that is the truth. 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:11.520 Matter take it as you want, okay. 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:13.880 So we interviewed who do we interview and they said 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.320 that they were getting threatened every night. A. T. K. 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:22.439 Kirk that the easy was that a similar situation. 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:24.760 It was similar and and trust me, it wasn't just 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:26.720 n WA was dealing with that. I'm sure there was 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:29.640 a lot of artists that had that because back then, 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.240 you know, there was I don't know, there was no 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.639 there was no parameters, right, So it was kind of 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.359 like we were doing these songs and just creating this 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:44.200 you know, vibe, and and it sounded as if we 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.480 were crossing a line and for us, we were just 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:51.240 girls having a good time party and doing our song. 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.359 They thought it was something else. And so yeah, that 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:55.560 happened with which was. 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.520 Coming in here in the US and in music it 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:00.440 was they used to do that, even believe it or not, 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:03.040 with with the old school music, like with the old 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:05.440 school rock or whether it be Sinatra, those guys believe 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.600 it or what. If they performed, the local cops would 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:10.960 show up say that it was profane. In some way 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:13.840 like it wasn't new to hip hop, but I'm sure 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:15.080 hip hop took it another notch. 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:17.359 Yeah, I'm sorry to change the subject, but I just 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:18.360 performed for Fat Joe. 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:19.760 Big up to the Fat Joe. You got to keep 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:23.600 the city right. Get on stage. 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:27.760 There's five cops waiting for me for you. So I 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:29.600 get on stage and they're like, you know where you 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.240 could get a photo? And I'm like calling this the 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:33.159 no warrant photo. 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.040 I wanted to leave. So I'm just I don't know 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:38.560 I changed the subject, but so let's just take the 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:39.760 band aid off. 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:41.679 Let me. 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:49.040 Because I'm gonna be honest with you as a younger. 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:52.719 I was about to say citizen, but I don't think 0:20:52.760 --> 0:21:00.720 that's the correct word. Nice shirt, Charlie, you think, But younger, 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.560 I'm gonna be honest with you, and you're gonna, you're gonna, 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:05.240 you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna think that. 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:09.960 I'm so naive, but I am, and I want to be. 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:13.320 I didn't want to ever see you in Pepper have 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:18.159 beef like I honestly, I'm almost tearing up a lot. 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:22.320 I'm almost hurt me. Damn. I am actually hold home, 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:23.639 get my life together. 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:30.360 Because yeah, my childhood heroes, my childhood yeah, my heroes. 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:36.840 So to see turmoial period, like I almost ignored it. 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:42.359 Expecting that it would just go away because I was 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:45.400 so like attached to y'all, like I'm so attached. I'm 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:48.400 not attached to so Pepper without Spinderrella. 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:51.720 I'm sorry. I apologize. I don't. I don't. 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:54.119 I don't care what people think. It's just how I 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:56.280 see it. I didn't see the other spinder Blla, God 0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:59.800 bless her. I know she she's supposed to be first, 0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:02.720 but I didn't. I don't remember how she looked. I 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:04.399 don't remember. All I remember is this. 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:07.680 So when I got the word that it was any turmorial, 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:09.520 I didn't remember what the turmorial was. 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:13.440 But I remember me being sad, and I remember me 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:17.160 continuing to be sad, and then we put this interview. 0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:20.080 I'm watching these interviews and I'm seeing you, you know, 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:24.159 speaking your piece, and I still to this day, I'm like, 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:25.400 d what happened? 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:26.280 Yeah, what happened? 0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:31.800 So in your opinion, what was the first straw on 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:33.840 the camel's back that you was like, damn, this is 0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:34.320 not right. 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:41.800 I mean, generally speaking, when you just grow up, just 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:44.920 get to a point where things will not you will 0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:47.200 not be tolerated and respect. 0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:48.719 This should be mutual. 0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:52.680 And when respect is mutual, we can move and do whatever. 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:57.800 But when respect is not mutual, then that's you know what, 0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:00.480 are you here for the bag that don't last? Because 0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:02.200 I can do a bag without it, you know what 0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:07.600 I'm saying. So growing up for me, you know, I mean, 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:13.000 having my grandson changed me, just seeing how the whole 0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:15.679 scope of hip hop is changing, just how things are. 0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:20.359 History is important, like like like being being in the 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:26.480 history books is important. Legacy is important, absolutely, but yeah, 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:29.200 you just don't take bullshit anymore. When you get to 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:33.600 a certain point, it's done. And I felt like if 0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:35.760 we don't have that mutual respect, it's not going to work. 0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:38.280 And so we needed we needed that. 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:41.199 We needed to do that. We needed to do that, and. 0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:45.840 I know how people feel like it does it really 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:46.400 hurt people? 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:50.119 Like I mean, like a dagger on one of them. 0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:51.240 I had to just tears. 0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:53.760 But you have to understand, I'm sorry, but. 0:23:56.680 --> 0:24:00.840 I'm it's like you just have to it's bigger than 0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:04.600 this group, like it's life. It's like you just don't 0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:08.040 want to deal with you know ship that you you know, 0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:11.640 don't have to and we had to get some things 0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:15.320 straight and and we had to do it in a 0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:20.440 way that was not you know, unfortunately it was publicized. 0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:23.200 Uh, but it had to be because there was a 0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:23.920 lot of work. 0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:25.920 There was a lot of you know, like everything from 0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:32.280 legalities involved in dissecting royalties and things like that. So 0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:36.320 all that has been dealt with. All that, thanks you 0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:38.920 been settled. Everything has been good. 0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:42.200 Well, the business side has been dealt with. 0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:46.040 The business side has been handled, But the friendships are 0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:49.679 I'm not going to say it's it's I'm not going 0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:51.440 to say it's not it's dead in the water. I'm 0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:53.879 going to say I'm always going to be open. My 0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:57.200 heart is always open. So what fortunately we did come together, 0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.880 We got to a star in a Hollywood Walk of Fame, 0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:08.280 and we acknowledged we got acknowledged you know, for other 0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:12.640 things as well. And it's just it's like in any 0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:17.960 relationship sometimes it just dissolve. There you're there for a time, 0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:21.040 and you're there for a reason and you just you. 0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:22.040 Know, move on. 0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:28.359 I'm sorry, but I just want you to know how 0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:31.280 much y'all meant to us, how much you mean to us, 0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:33.000 not meant meant this past tense. 0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:35.920 And I'm a little smarter than that. Okay, how much 0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:39.480 you mean to us? You guys. 0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:48.639 Evolutionize the woman category, like you made sure that like 0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:52.440 woman was represented in the hip hop and for that, 0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.440 like you you could never take that away. What I'm 0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:57.960 saying is again, like I want to reiterate what I 0:25:58.000 --> 0:26:01.680 said earlier, because if this wasn't no Peppa and Spinderella, 0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:05.000 there wouldn't be no fucking compona dj e FN. 0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:07.679 So if there's any way that you. 0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:11.000 Could have meended, I recommend you do because I love 0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:13.440 to see y'all three together, Like it's like Voltron, you 0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:14.960 know what I'm saying, Like it's like when I see 0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:18.520 y'all three, like I actually get goosebumps. I actually do, 0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:21.920 And so I just I just want to commend y'all 0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:26.520 for maintaining that. And it was one of the probably 0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:30.480 the worst fan moments of my life, Oh my god, 0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.119 seeing y'all go through it, because I honestly looked at 0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:34.879 it and didn't like try to act like I ignored it, 0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:37.639 like I didn't just see that crazy. 0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:42.159 It was crazy. Think about groups though all the groups, 0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:47.240 it's not perfect, right, especially groups from back in the days, 0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:50.119 it's not not perfect. You name them and they have 0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:51.320 those issues. 0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.160 Or starting young and then you grow into different people. 0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:56.639 Yeah, yeah, we all we all like excited, you know 0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:59.600 in the beginning, and then you know, we grow up 0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:02.119 and we turn into who we are, and then we 0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:03.280 just kind of grow apart. 0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:04.919 But I noticed that that's the. 0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:06.639 Case with most groups. 0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:11.000 I love to see, Like I love to see Jeff 0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:12.200 and and Will together. 0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:12.840 I love that. 0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:15.480 I like when I see Chuck, d and Flave come together. 0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:17.040 You know, I like when I. 0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:20.280 See you know, just old groups together. 0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:23.680 What I do understand that you can't make a square 0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:26.760 fit into a certain you cannot, but you might have to. 0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:29.320 You know, all of them have beef too. It's just 0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:32.800 the difference y'all and them is that y'all beef was public. 0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:34.800 And the thing about it is. 0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:36.840 No, their beef was public. A lot of like like 0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:37.840 who's beef was public? 0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:42.680 Who public enemy? Not Jeff, I'm talking about public enemy. 0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:48.920 Just Chuck just at one point was wild too, and right, 0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:49.960 I forgot that wark. 0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:53.760 But when I see them together, it's like, yes, so 0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:56.239 I get what y'all are feeling. I get Look I'm 0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:58.639 talking to me, talking to fans that all of our 0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:00.920 people out there trust me, and you know who. I 0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:05.960 got to give some props to Pepa, So Pep and 0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:06.879 and you know. 0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:12.479 She has been always the glue like she knows. 0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:14.840 Do you know that it hasn't been perfect with the 0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.920 three and we got our things about this, but Pep 0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:23.359 will go to no end to make something come together, 0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:26.040 you know what I'm saying. And you know we have, 0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:30.960 We've talked on a bunch of occasions and you know, 0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:32.760 we're just we're just leaving the door open. 0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:34.040 We're at that point. 0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:37.520 But to backtrack a little, for people who don't know 0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:39.000 the situation, you don't have to go into it because 0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.280 I'm sure you're sick of talking about it. But on 0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:45.480 the business side of it, what could what did you 0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:47.960 learn that you could have done differently for it to 0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:49.520 not I was. 0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:53.280 Young and there was no contract number one, so contract 0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:55.720 as far as road or contract as far as. 0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:59.200 Its internal internal nothing. There was no contract. 0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:04.040 Yeah, it was like, look, we want you to DJ 0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:07.760 for us, audition for us without a contract. There was 0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:10.320 no contract and that and me I was sixteen, so 0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:11.800 I was like, okay, whatever. 0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:14.000 But even when I got. 0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:17.400 Older, I did ask, you know, can we produce something 0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:19.960 some kind of something assigned to But you know, their 0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.720 argument is, it was Herbie who brought me to you know, 0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:24.760 in the group. It was Herbie's group. Herbie was the 0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:26.440 creator of. 0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:29.480 Salt and Pepper, and Salt Pepper both from Queens. You're 0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:34.680 from Brooklyn, Brooklyn, okay, and Herby's You'd be stabbed a 0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:39.080 lot of people. Watch out, guys, watch out. 0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:44.880 But yeah, so Herbie was the one who and he 0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.280 was the one who brought Pepper in. And he actually 0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:52.480 was Salt who brought pepper in. But we we we 0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:56.719 didn't have a contract. So that's how important contracts are. 0:29:57.160 --> 0:29:59.080 And if you don't have that, you know, you really 0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:01.360 don't have a leg to stay on. So and that's 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.000 so that's bad on both sides, them as the as 0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:07.200 the unit and me as the DJ coming into the unit. 0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:09.280 You know. 0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:15.720 But you know, to my point, I wanted to make 0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:19.400 things right, you know, from a legal standpoint, make sure, 0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:22.040 let's let's produce a contract. And when I would do that, 0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:23.320 I would get pushed back from that. 0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:25.400 You know, we like it the way it is. 0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:27.840 Leave it alone, you know, so let me stop you 0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:31.920 for a second because I heard you say this, but 0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:35.440 I need to hear you say this. So you say, 0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:37.880 and there was gigs that you were doing and wasn't 0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:38.520 getting paid for? 0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:44.000 Oh no, yeah, there was what's the word promotional promotional, 0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:47.400 But but I would say I got paid for promotional gigs, 0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:49.080 but we weren't getting paid paid. 0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:52.120 It was like there's a you specifically or the whole 0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:57.360 group wasn't getting paid. Well, the whole group emotional. 0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:02.320 When I just say that, I'm thinking they were signaling you. 0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:06.320 Oh no, no, it was it was promotional runs. I mean, 0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.440 it was a photo sessions. There was anything that had 0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:10.560 to do with building a brand. 0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:14.480 Group brand, which is your sweat equity. 0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:18.400 It's sweat equity, and so that's your your investment. Okay, 0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:19.040 I'll invest. 0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:19.760 I believe in this. 0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:24.760 I'm here for it, and that to me, I don't 0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:25.320 care about that. 0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.880 What I to, you know, to your point earlier, what 0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:30.600 was it? Without speaking on it. 0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:35.080 I had to take them to court to you know, 0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:38.160 to get my royalties divided. 0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:39.920 Ports from records that I performed on. 0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:44.560 Yes, I'm on probably about fifteen three three that super hits. 0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:47.680 Yeah, and you do your own. 0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:54.080 So, yes, what that said, I mean, that's enough. Come on, 0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:56.560 so somebody's getting paid and I'm not. 0:31:57.120 --> 0:31:59.080 When royalties weren't coming from them, it would be the 0:31:59.120 --> 0:31:59.640 record label. 0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.000 It would the record label. It would be the record label. 0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:06.840 But they're still here's the thing. They were signed, and 0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:10.320 that means they were signed to the record label, but 0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:14.320 I wasn't. And so with our voices together and our 0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:21.640 performances together on on something they had, they had their 0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:24.960 names as the receivers, as the performers, and I didn't 0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:25.440 have mine. 0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:27.200 So your shares, my share. 0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:32.160 I was fighting for my shares, my proper shares, you know, 0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:35.840 from them. That's separate and apart from being in Sultan Pepa. 0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:39.200 Is like when you perform or when you produce, you 0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:41.840 should have your or you write, you should have your 0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:43.320 shares of yours. 0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:45.280 And so that's what I was fighting and separate from 0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:47.640 because if someone listening, they might confuse it with publishing 0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:49.920 is not publishing, because they would get there publishing for 0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:51.200 whatever they did publish. 0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:55.400 Yeah yeah, but I did produce a couple of things 0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:57.560 for Sultan Peppa, and so I had to fight. 0:32:57.480 --> 0:32:58.040 For that as well. 0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:03.800 And you know, it was like when the end, when 0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:05.520 the end came. It was like, Okay, let's do this 0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:06.000 right then. 0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:08.120 And I didn't want to bring I didn't want it 0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:11.800 to be public, but it went public, and at the 0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:13.160 end of the day, I had to do what I 0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:15.080 had to do because I have you know, I put 0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:19.880 my blood, sweat and tears for thirty five years. Thirty 0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:25.600 five years is a lifetime. It's a lifetime. And so 0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:28.840 when you say sweat equity, you put your all into 0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:32.560 something and then to be dismissed or to be kind 0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:36.160 of put out as if you weren't there, that's the contribution. 0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:41.520 Get what you deserve and then peace out. But you know, 0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:42.440 today I'm not. 0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:42.840 Here to. 0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:47.800 You know, put They're always going to be queen's to me. 0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:52.160 They might not feel the way that I feel about 0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:57.320 but it doesn't matter to me. I'm a grown woman, 0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:00.680 I'm a queen. I'm gonna fix my sister's crime. If 0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.600 I can help you, I will always do that. But 0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:06.360 I'm going to fight for mine, show you how to 0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:09.040 fight it, you know, and stand up for yours. So 0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.920 that's what I got out of it, you know. You know, 0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.320 at the end of the day, I'm happy that I'm 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:17.520 sorry that it went that way. 0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:19.440 But I had to do what I had to do 0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:21.719 for me, you know, as an outsider that's looking in, 0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:25.320 as an insider that's looking out. I feel like the 0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:29.560 mistake probably was that y'all didn't negotiate together from the beginning, 0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:32.239 because I believe that they had a contract and then 0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:38.080 you had a separate and had y'all showed that women camarbities. 0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:42.520 That word. Okay, yeah, So. 0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:45.759 If that's what I feel like, because I feel like 0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:49.680 they wasn't trying to do you wrong. I feel like 0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:51.880 they were so much trying to look out for theirself 0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:54.800 because women were being done wrong at that time, that 0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:56.200 they were so much trying to look at it for 0:34:56.280 --> 0:35:01.000 themselves that they didn't think of gotcha, you know, by 0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:02.080 the way, No, I understand. 0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:06.440 I understand that point because I tried to sit in 0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:07.239 their shoes too. 0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:08.160 I did. 0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:10.400 And when I was talking with Pet, Pepper explained a 0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:12.839 lot to me about her situation in it and how 0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:17.160 familiar my situation is to her because she was fighting 0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:21.360 for hers too internally, so and I'm like, and you're Pepper, 0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:26.120 and well, I cannot speak for her, but I will 0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:30.040 say that she understood some of the fight that I 0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:33.400 had in fighting for your part and what you have 0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:38.400 provided and contributed, and it's just a bigger picture than 0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:44.120 what everybody thinks. And you know, as a as a writer, 0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:47.440 as a as a producer, as a performer, you you 0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:51.040 should get your share, you know what what you put 0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:51.440 into it. 0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:56.719 And you know, I'll let her speak from the sound 0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.240 of it, it's not just them too, it's other entities 0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:01.400 to be her regular way more than this. 0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:05.320 Well, they did have fights with Herbie about stuff, but 0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:08.560 I feel like they absolved it. But at the end 0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:12.120 of the day, I'm looking at my situation right now 0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:14.680 and I can't speak on Peppa. I wish them well, 0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:16.800 you know, and the door's always opened. 0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:19.879 We said that we would love to see you guys together, 0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:22.160 but I got it. 0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:24.319 I have to say, you have to kind of take 0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:26.759 care of you in the end, and you got to 0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:29.160 make sure you're good in order for the door to 0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:32.400 be open for us to come together again. Business got 0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:36.399 be handled. When I handle my business, my team. Shout 0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:40.560 out to my team. Team, shout out to my manager, LJ. 0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:43.200 He's been my manager. I'm a loyal person. I have 0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:47.600 the same people with me for forever. My manager LJ. 0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:50.520 He said to say how to y'all. He's been my 0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:56.719 manager for almost twenty years. So my husband, my husband Q, 0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:59.840 my daughter Christy, she's a DJ too, So you know, 0:36:59.880 --> 0:37:03.480 I'm constantly making sure she's good because she's out there, 0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:07.000 you know, just making sure she's right. Contracts and everything, 0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:12.600 but the right having the right people around you keeps 0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:14.960 you right. And so when I leave my team and 0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:17.120 then I go into Salt and Pepper, I need to 0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:18.040 make sure that's right. 0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:20.279 I know how it should be. And so. 0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:26.360 From this moment on, should a door open there again, 0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:27.560 We're gonna be good. 0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:28.960 We're gonna be good. 0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:32.600 Because all contracts will be right. We'll make sure everybody 0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:36.480 is right. And I feel like back then we didn't 0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:41.000 have the right conversations about doing that, because I did 0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:43.200 bring it up. Let's do contract, Let's do a contract. 0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:46.399 I just pect you with that and say, yo, listen, 0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.279 you just you need a contract or that's something you 0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:49.800 came up with. 0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:52.520 I came up okay, cool, continue, I came up with okay. 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:56.719 And when Herbie was gone, I think when Herbie left 0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:59.200 Herbie left back in the early nineties, it was kind 0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:01.200 of like I'm just kind of floating here. 0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:05.560 I'm just kind of just floating. And I mean they 0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:06.760 they definitely. 0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:08.160 Paid me, you know when you know, when I did 0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:13.719 my gigs or whatever. But when it came to promoting 0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:16.920 and promoting the albums and pushing the albums and performing 0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:21.040 on the albums, I wasn't getting my cut, so I 0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.160 had to make sure I got mine, like and so 0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:25.960 that's why it took that long to do it. And 0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:27.759 when it was said and done, we settled. And when 0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:30.480 you settled, that means we're all on the same page. 0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:33.920 You know. As a kid, when I heard this, I 0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:36.440 was like, oh, that's just the rumor. As a kid, 0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:38.200 you heard this, like, yeeah, Well, this. 0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:41.759 Is a long term situation. It's a long time were 0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:43.440 you you talking about Okay, So. 0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.080 I mean as a kid, though I was a kid 0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:51.920 in mind my house, like they didn't break up in 0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:53.000 the early nineties. 0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:55.239 It was no, we didn't break up in the early nineties, 0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:57.919 but you said we had issues back in the ninth 0:38:58.000 --> 0:38:59.359 early late night. 0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:04.600 Late nineties. Here I remember forty seven, forty six. I'll 0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:05.799 be forty seven next month. 0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:07.399 We're talking about twenty some years. 0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:11.359 Yeah, and to me it seems like, who, yeah, that's 0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:13.719 a time it's a long time to be going through 0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:14.359 the ship, right. 0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:18.279 It's true that Herbie when he put the group together, 0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:20.480 he thought of it as the female run DMC. 0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:23.279 Yes, and and you would have been the jam master 0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:24.120 j of that run ja. 0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:26.560 Yeah, he thought he thought of Houdini. 0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:32.520 And so do you remember ever going to the Left 0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:33.480 Rock City? I do? 0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:38.560 Oh yeah, that's crazy how this ties into the beginning 0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:39.320 of Dream Champs. 0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:42.879 Really, he's our first guest. You have no idea first 0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:43.680 recorded guests. 0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:46.440 Let me just tall you he's going to go down right, 0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:51.279 And I know your husband is here, respect and you're 0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:51.919 doing this here? 0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:56.160 Who I feel like she's related to me. Let me 0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:56.960 just tell you something. 0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:01.640 Kenny Anderson at the time was the hottest point guard 0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:04.680 in New York City. Katy Anderson, I'm from ninety seventh Street. 0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:08.040 Kny Anderson is from ninety sixth Street. He's from down 0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:12.719 the block. The hottest woman in the game ran the 0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:13.440 chain at the. 0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:19.320 Time was Spendervella. Oh so my childhood. 0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:30.520 Was Spenderella is the most beautifullest woman in the game. Really, 0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:36.600 everyone wants Spenderella. It's prober is the name. Everybody wants. 0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:37.360 Spender Weell. 0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:40.439 Jesus, everybody wants you to turn. 0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:51.280 And it was one day Kenny Anderson, we call him Chipper. 0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:56.800 He comes through my neighborhood with you. And when I 0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.400 tell you, that was like a goal. 0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:04.279 That was like I think, I remember, I. 0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:05.960 Ain't gonna lie. I was the little nigga like that. 0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:13.160 In case you don't know, the little dirty nigga probably 0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:14.120 didn't clean my ears. 0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:21.160 I was like, holy shit, and that shit changed my childhood. 0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:26.800 Because it made mean Katy Anderson, which I tell him this, 0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:29.000 and I tell him this off the air, and this 0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:29.840 is kind of corny. 0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:31.879 I just always say this on the air. 0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:37.239 He made me who I am one of those And 0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:39.799 one of those two days, I tell you the LA day, 0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:42.600 Remember when I first hit number one, And it was 0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:43.040 this day. 0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:45.279 This is way before I was a rapper, and he 0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:46.440 came to the hood with you. 0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:50.359 And when I tell you, every man in the hood 0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:53.360 could not take their eyes off you. I'm sorry, husband, 0:41:55.320 --> 0:42:00.560 I'm sorry, husband, but it was one of the greatest 0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:05.360 moments of my life because you represented making it. 0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:06.480 Hm hmm. 0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:11.120 You have no idea what I mean. 0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:14.920 I think I could understand in the sense of just 0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:17.680 coming through and it's just like a picture of what 0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:20.000 it looks like to be success and have the right 0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.799 female on your arm. And you know that. 0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:30.680 Let me take you home. You were the hottest chicken game. 0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:36.360 Let's be clear. Did you not feel that? No, I 0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:43.120 did not feel like we sucked. Holy I do know 0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:43.600 that there. 0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:45.560 You know, people tell me they had crushes on me 0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:47.680 or whatever, but no, real like. 0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:51.200 I remember, like like, I'm so proud to call you 0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:55.600 my sister now, but back then, I can't deny. 0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:57.360 That like how it was like. 0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:00.480 But I do know that the fans had their favorites. 0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:01.320 I mean they had. 0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:05.239 I mean, I know that they looked at me like, 0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:07.880 you know, they had questions on me or whatever. So 0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:09.880 and I hear that a lot today, Like you know, 0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:11.400 I still got a crush on any type of thing. 0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:14.520 But no, I didn't know that. You didn't feel it. 0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:17.160 I could feel that they they loved on me. 0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:18.960 Yeah, I could feel that. 0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:20.520 Okay, that's one way of putting it. 0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:24.640 Yeah, I completely loved it on me. I mean, not 0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:28.200 to take away from what you're saying, please, but you know, 0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:31.719 I get how, you know, people look at somebody and 0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:35.680 I remember being like, you know, just on top of 0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:37.920 the world, like Salt and Pepper and myself, we were 0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:39.560 just on top of the way. We were the girls. 0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:43.400 We was those girls back then, and you know they 0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:45.320 had their favorite. Salt was their face. You know, she 0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:48.480 had her favorites. Pep had her favorite, Spin had her favorites. 0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:48.680 You know. 0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:52.759 Like But to take it back to to drink Champs, 0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:56.759 Kenny was recorded guests. Yes, we didn't release it first. 0:43:56.800 --> 0:43:59.040 It was the first person that we tested this concept. 0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:04.120 Wow. Yeah, so you you you are drinking around. Yeah, 0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:05.120 I'm in there. 0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:09.239 I heard your interview some of the you know, the 0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:12.000 interview y'all did with Kenny, and I heard what you 0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:14.600 guys were. I don't know, y'all were talking about baby 0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:15.640 mamas and stuff like that. 0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:19.200 I think that was funny. I was scared. I was 0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:21.680 scared to say your name because to this day, I'm 0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:24.280 still scared of you, like scared. 0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:27.759 From the music standpoint, I'm really proud of what we've 0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:32.520 done together. That is something that nothing, that's nothing that 0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:36.120 we can personally go through, could ever overshadow the. 0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:38.000 Purpose of what Sultan Pepper was. 0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:42.400 The Sultan Pepper, the music, the message, the importance of 0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:45.000 us and music, the importance of us and hip hop, 0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:49.840 the importance of us as women, the contribution as women 0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:56.239 to our our just our generation, and so so don't 0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:59.759 let what personal stuff color that. And that means a 0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:02.759 lot to hear you say that. But yeah, it was 0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:06.880 great times, it was interesting. Just you know, I remember 0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:09.200 that going through left Rack with Kenny. I did a 0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:10.000 lot of left Rack. 0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:10.719 I was out there. 0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:17.400 We used to actually, we used to, actually, me and 0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:19.640 Kenny used to go at it because you know, he 0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:23.600 he called the pink houses the stinkhouses, and I would 0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:25.040 call I'm sorry, y'all. 0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:25.719 It was just a joke. 0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:28.800 I would call Left Right City, left wax City. 0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:29.920 It was. 0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:34.840 It was, it was, it was. 0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:37.360 It was a thing between me and Kenny. She's like, 0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:43.600 look at that little boy. But no, I spent a 0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:47.759 lot of time in Left Right. He did a lot. 0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:49.760 He did a lot, He did a lot for them. 0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:54.200 Not gonna lie. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie to you again. 0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:56.600 I should, I should say this to him off camera. 0:45:57.280 --> 0:46:00.320 But he kept me out of jail for years because 0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:04.120 he had a tournament called Kenny Anderson Tournament, and I 0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:06.400 would I would go there and I would play basketball, 0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:10.520 and I remember I remember one year, I'm sorry, turn 0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:13.840 it back. But I remember one year I was selling 0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:18.759 drugs and I just couldn't stop selling drugs. I was 0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:20.799 addicted to selling drugs. Even though I wasn't a good 0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:24.879 drug dealer. I was like semi, but I would get 0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:27.279 my shirt off. And the coach came to me. I 0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:30.399 can't say the coach name because he's very it's very big. 0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:35.120 The coach said to me, I know you sell drugs, 0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:40.040 but you're gonna come and play this. You gonna play 0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:42.440 this basketball. And I came in and played basketball. 0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:48.760 We want. But by the way, because of Kenny, him doing. 0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:53.680 The contributions that he did, h to the hood, his 0:46:54.080 --> 0:47:00.400 mother as well, first week fall. 0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:03.960 Rest in peace to your day you met. 0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:07.200 Her, she's as first of all my daughters here. 0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:11.320 Yes, yes, immediately connected to her, Yes, my daughter. 0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:15.719 She's like she was like one of I mean, after 0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:18.600 I had Christy, I would bring her to left right 0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:23.719 and leave her with miss A and you want a shot. 0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:31.360 And miss A was just just an incredible woman. She 0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:32.200 was hard coil. 0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:35.040 She was hard on me when I first met when 0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:38.200 I first started dating Kenny, she was like, who's this bitch? 0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:42.040 Yeah, yeah, we're talking about you went too fast? Yeah, 0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:42.479 that's true. 0:47:42.880 --> 0:47:43.160 She was. 0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:46.040 That was the first word. She was, like, who was 0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:50.120 this bitch? She was like protective of her son, but 0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:51.960 by the way you spend at the time, it's not 0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:52.960 like you care. 0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:54.440 She didn't care. 0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:56.000 I love this story. 0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:59.000 So I was very intimidated by miss saying I called 0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:01.600 him miss name was Joan, but I call I called 0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:05.280 him miss A, And she put me through the ringer 0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:08.080 to be to mess with her son. 0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:09.520 I mean, I guess you should. 0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:12.640 You know, kids just can't have any woman rolling up 0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:14.120 on your you know, in your in your home. 0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:16.520 You was his first real relationship, right, I don't know 0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:17.920 that I was his first real relationship. 0:48:17.920 --> 0:48:19.759 I believe the outside of looking at it, and I 0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:22.759 believe it was he was young. He was he was 0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:23.319 very young. 0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:25.440 He was like, come on, in his prime and he 0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:31.279 was like a superstar and oh my god, like for 0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:34.400 him to just come from where he came from to 0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:37.239 you know, just blowing up with all this money and 0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:40.680 all this like notoriety and just the fame, it was crazy. 0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:44.840 So but back to Missay, she was very protective and. 0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:51.080 I will say our relationship really got established because she 0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:53.319 you know, literally taught me like she. 0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:56.560 Was like, you know, I know, I know you love 0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:58.279 my son, because I could have ran you off a. 0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:00.759 Long time ago, girl, like you know, that is the 0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:02.160 gangst that's gangstuff. 0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:05.320 I could have you know, and but you stayed, you know, 0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:08.279 and you stayed and you you know, we didn't work out. 0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:10.319 But our daughter, you know, we had our daughter. 0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:15.160 That was a purpose. God bless God. She's my daughter. 0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:19.120 Was so beautiful and so like the best part of us. Yeah, 0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:21.640 and although I just met her today, I swear to God, 0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:22.400 I feel like I know her. 0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:26.000 Yeah, well you might have seen it is really young 0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:28.359 come the left brack all the time she was wit 0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:30.480 miss s. Yeah, there it is. 0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:31.200 Okay. 0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:36.440 So our show is about giving people they flowers. From 0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:39.960 the beginning, we wanted to give you a flowers. Wanted 0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:42.960 to tell you, face to face, woman, the man, man, 0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:46.080 the woman, that how much you mean the hip hop 0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:57.120 sho this is And I want you to know how 0:49:57.239 --> 0:49:59.880 much you feel being the hip hop how much you 0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:02.440 mean to us, how much you mean to the community. 0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:07.920 We one man percent understand your plight, We understand your struggle, 0:50:07.960 --> 0:50:12.279 we understand your fight, and we got your back. And 0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:15.759 there's nothing in this world that's not going to stop us. 0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:17.600 From doing that and we want to give you. 0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:22.800 Wow, this is huge. 0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:23.520 Thank you so much. 0:50:23.680 --> 0:50:27.560 My heart is real full from that because coming from 0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:31.520 where I came from and just always literally you know, 0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:34.439 I dealt with a lot of doubt, the whole stuff. 0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:36.040 I doubt it myself a lot. 0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:41.800 But to get the love that I've been getting regardless 0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:46.120 of all of that, it makes me feel again. You know, 0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:48.960 when you when you're when you when you're kind of 0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:52.360 shot down for whatever reason, when you're shot down, or 0:50:52.360 --> 0:50:56.120 when you feel that your your worth is or you're 0:50:56.160 --> 0:51:00.279 devalued or any in any of that, you don't like 0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:05.239 you deserve and you know, so to get this kind 0:51:05.239 --> 0:51:06.400 of love, I really appreciate you. 0:51:06.440 --> 0:51:06.600 All. 0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:08.640 Well, let me let me let me stop that not 0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:13.600 feeling deserved, because this is your house, this is built 0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:17.600 for you, and I'm gonna just tell you it's well deserved. 0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:18.040 Over here. 0:51:18.520 --> 0:51:23.560 You are a icon, you are a legend, and we 0:51:23.719 --> 0:51:26.839 are immortal fans over here. 0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:34.040 Immortal. I used that word before. I guess it just 0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:37.799 came out like you're mortal for using it. So we're 0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:42.640 gonna play a game real quick now' storry, Okay, I 0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:43.200 ain't gonna lie. 0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:47.239 I'd be drinking, but I did drink last episode, so 0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:49.759 and I saw Keith very I tell you you gotta 0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:50.279 talk about that. 0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:53.640 You know, me and Keith Mary had fake Keith Oh really? 0:51:56.480 --> 0:51:59.920 What happened with that? They wore taking over. 0:52:03.600 --> 0:52:07.200 I'm at Fat Joe's concert and I feel somebody like 0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:12.160 touching my leg because because by the way, I didn't 0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:13.640 go to Fat Joe concerts to perform. 0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:15.359 I went there to be a fan. 0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:19.200 And there I was like, yo, I cannot leave. I mean, 0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:21.840 I gotta leave tomorrow. And they're like why. I'm like, 0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:22.440 I gotta. 0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:26.600 Spread the brother. I said, I ain't missing this. They're like, okay, cool, 0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:31.600 thank you. I hain't somebody, I said, I hear somebody. 0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:34.880 I felt somebody in my leg. I turn around. 0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:40.160 It's a guy with a bandanna, glasses and a joint 0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:43.279 and I look and I just see his eyes. I'm 0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:49.440 keeping when I tell you, I didn't tell nobody around me. 0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:51.040 I didn't say yo, whook me. 0:52:51.360 --> 0:52:57.920 I just seen some'sc and he was like, my heart, 0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:02.319 my heart, what what? What? What do you mean? That's 0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:07.040 Keith testing me if I'm lying? He said my heart, 0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:11.400 And you know what I said, my heart? I did 0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:19.759 I said, I ain't gonna because I want to. I 0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:20.120 want to. 0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:24.759 Testament the hip hop man. We had a misunderstanding. He 0:53:24.920 --> 0:53:28.680 thought something about me, which I liked it, but it 0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:32.560 was false. He's like, no, he's Hollywood, He's different. Now, 0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:37.440 I don't get pedicureous. Look ship, look at my nails 0:53:37.520 --> 0:53:39.759 is sucked up. I don't get pedicures. 0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:45.120 I should. I should, though, but I seen them. We talked, 0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:45.839 we worked it out. 0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:48.960 They filmed it. They film the whole time, the whole time. 0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:51.960 His people filmed it. And I never said, don't film 0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:55.799 because I wanted to document it. That don't don't don't 0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:57.200 ever say that because drink chances. 0:53:57.239 --> 0:53:58.240 We're for our legends. 0:53:58.280 --> 0:53:58.480 Man. 0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:01.040 And the thing about it is, so many times in 0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:04.759 this game people get ten years or more and you 0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:06.799 know what they say. They say you're washed up, they 0:54:06.840 --> 0:54:09.800 say you you're dark irrelevant. Do they say that in 0:54:09.920 --> 0:54:12.200 rock and roll? Do they say that in jazz? Do 0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:15.239 they say heavy metal? They only say it's only us. 0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:19.600 It's only us. So we're gonna change that fucking narrative. 0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:24.320 If you take food from yesterday and you put it 0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:26.680 in the refrigerator and you work and you warm it 0:54:26.760 --> 0:54:27.359 up in the morning. 0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:34.399 Guess what, it's better. It's better. It's been marinated. It's 0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:39.280 been That means it's been seasoned, preserved. You young motherfuckers 0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:44.080 judging the older people. You are a pizza who just 0:54:44.160 --> 0:54:47.040 came out of gobin. It's too hot. 0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:49.960 You're too hot. 0:54:51.719 --> 0:54:55.800 The fuck often enjoy the pizza, right, my friend. 0:54:55.680 --> 0:55:03.239 He ain't gonna brought me a phenomenal pizza. I have 0:55:03.320 --> 0:55:05.160 to put salt on it and let it come up. 0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:09.319 Day got wrong, and then after that cool. 0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:11.640 I enjoyed the pizza. 0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:15.080 So this is too Oh, you young motherfuckers, you're judging 0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:18.280 you one of the young one of the dumb, dumbest 0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:21.200 shits you can say as a young person, is you old? 0:55:21.320 --> 0:55:21.920 Motherfucker? 0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:22.719 What? 0:55:24.880 --> 0:55:28.800 You don't want to be old like me? One day? Idiot? 0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:33.200 The goal is not to die young, The goal is 0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:39.799 to grow to crow idiots. I guess what. I'm sorry. 0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:41.800 I had a moment. Let me add on to that. 0:55:42.160 --> 0:55:46.799 When someone says you're old, you're older too. We're both old. Look, 0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:49.800 you're not going backwards. We're both going up together. 0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:52.880 Like it doesn't make it. It doesn't. 0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:55.000 It's like, how am I get old and you're not. 0:55:55.280 --> 0:55:57.759 We're both growing, you know, so I don't. 0:55:57.760 --> 0:55:59.839 I don't get that the whole irrelevant thing when people 0:55:59.840 --> 0:56:05.160 say you're irrelevant, I'm like, to who you, I don't know, 0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:07.520 it's it's it's weird, you know what. 0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:11.279 I love the renaissance of hip hop right now, Right now, 0:56:12.040 --> 0:56:15.040 hip hop has grown so much, like I can like 0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:18.640 book a vacation and so max a lot would be 0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:21.960 on the fucking m the cruise line. 0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:26.600 Holy, this is dope, like hip hop has involved so much. 0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:29.200 Do you think that hip hop when you started doing 0:56:29.239 --> 0:56:33.480 it with what, for lack of a better term, whack cliche, 0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:35.120 do you think that hip hop would have came this 0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:35.799 far far? 0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:40.040 No, I didn't think about it neither. 0:56:40.600 --> 0:56:40.960 It wasn't. 0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:43.560 It was like it was not something I was thinking about. 0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:44.520 It was something I was doing. 0:56:45.560 --> 0:56:49.960 So that was like the original question back in the days, 0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:54.480 most most of US artists who were first interviewed was 0:56:54.600 --> 0:56:57.200 asked the question, what are you going to do when 0:56:57.280 --> 0:57:01.680 this is over? And I can say for me, I'm like, 0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:03.880 I don't know nothing know, So I'm just gonna keep doing. 0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:06.239 What until you know? To the wheels fall? Could that 0:57:06.280 --> 0:57:09.080 have played into the bad business nuts foreseeing it? 0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:11.680 You know, yeah, be here so long, of course, but 0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:16.200 look what it won't happen again. Experience is important. So 0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:19.400 when you get older and talk about growing, you grow 0:57:19.520 --> 0:57:24.320 with experience. And these younger you know, I feel, I 0:57:24.400 --> 0:57:26.600 feel if they ain't watching and if they ain't learning, 0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:30.720 you know, they're gonna get hit hard. I always think about, 0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:34.280 like the newer artists, like the younger generation of artists, 0:57:35.240 --> 0:57:40.240 they're gonna need therapy. Yeah, eventually, you know what, They're 0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:43.640 gonna need therapy, Ain't I right or wrong? They're not 0:57:43.960 --> 0:57:45.800 going to need Derby, they need Derby now? 0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:48.760 Well yeah, I mean once you come we all need therapy. 0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:49.560 Though, yeah we do. 0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:54.400 But I really, especially for the young women, it's it's 0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:56.760 not and I'm not just talking about I'm talking about 0:57:56.960 --> 0:58:01.400 I mean whoever the DJ's everything is. It's a lot 0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:04.520 to come through this. And with social media and with 0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:07.240 social media, we didn't and we didn't have social media 0:58:07.400 --> 0:58:10.560 like that. So I just feel like, yeah, get a 0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:12.000 good therapist on deck. 0:58:12.920 --> 0:58:14.320 On your team. 0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:17.040 Get a good therapist on your team. So let me 0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:18.960 ask you, because this has been a question on my mom, 0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:21.160 how did you get the names? 0:58:21.320 --> 0:58:28.600 Bendrella Spinderella was given to me Herbie Herbie. Herbie Herbie said, Okay, 0:58:28.680 --> 0:58:30.439 now it's just so you know, I know you mentioned 0:58:30.480 --> 0:58:32.480 there was a Spinderella before me. Yes, there was a 0:58:32.520 --> 0:58:37.120 Spinderella before me on the first Salt and Pepper album, Hot, 0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:40.000 Cool and Vicious, that there's a picture of another young lady. 0:58:41.120 --> 0:58:46.240 She was the first Sponderella. I don't I can't say 0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:47.320 what the story was. 0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:54.200 But they were looking for another female DJ for their 0:58:54.240 --> 0:58:58.800 first major tour, a tour initially it was a tour, 0:58:59.480 --> 0:59:03.360 and I auditioned. They you know, they heard about me 0:59:03.520 --> 0:59:05.920 and they asked me to audition. I auditioned and then 0:59:05.960 --> 0:59:07.920 I got it. So I don't know what you know, 0:59:08.000 --> 0:59:10.280 what this story is. I can't say what happened before me. 0:59:10.520 --> 0:59:18.040 But yeah, has she ever spoken out? 0:59:19.560 --> 0:59:22.840 Pretty sure she has, But I, you know, I don't know. 0:59:23.360 --> 0:59:26.280 I know there's a story. Everybody has a story. 0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:28.760 So and is it true. Wendy Williams also tried to 0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:29.640 audition to be the. 0:59:30.040 --> 0:59:31.520 She says that too, what. 0:59:37.400 --> 0:59:37.840 Not being. 0:59:40.320 --> 0:59:43.800 It's been the relation So so Herveie was looking for 0:59:44.440 --> 0:59:47.200 originally what we said, he was looking for that N 0:59:47.240 --> 0:59:52.640 D C. J. Houdini, you know, two m season a DJ. 0:59:54.040 --> 0:59:58.800 But as females. All I know is that when I auditioned, 0:59:58.920 --> 0:59:59.400 I got it. 1:00:00.240 --> 1:00:01.720 And that's all I know. That was hard. 1:00:06.080 --> 1:00:08.320 But yes, Herbie gave me the name. But there was 1:00:08.360 --> 1:00:11.960 a Spinderella from the early eighties. Okay, I can't say, 1:00:12.000 --> 1:00:14.240 but you know, give credit where credit is due. I 1:00:14.320 --> 1:00:16.240 can't say I made the name of the story. 1:00:16.360 --> 1:00:18.320 Yeah, I got. 1:00:18.720 --> 1:00:21.600 I'm a collective of old ship So I bought a 1:00:21.680 --> 1:00:25.800 Spinderella doll from like the early seventies and it was her. No, 1:00:26.160 --> 1:00:28.120 it was a little it was a little white doll 1:00:28.240 --> 1:00:30.880 with blonde hair, it was, and she was spinning on 1:00:30.960 --> 1:00:33.400 a spindle or whatever. And her name was Spinder. 1:00:34.640 --> 1:00:35.680 That's where they got the name from. 1:00:36.040 --> 1:00:40.560 I don't know, but I have that doll and I'm like, wow, So, 1:00:41.200 --> 1:00:45.120 and that's how old the name is, right, that is documented, 1:00:45.200 --> 1:00:46.400 so you know, And the. 1:00:47.280 --> 1:00:49.880 First Spender was the one that was before you. She 1:00:50.000 --> 1:00:53.200 comes out in one I think one single or one vinyl. 1:00:52.920 --> 1:00:58.720 That she appears on that first album, right, Yeah, that's crazy. 1:00:58.920 --> 1:01:02.400 But then Thomas, I can't say what happened there because 1:01:02.560 --> 1:01:04.720 I'm not right to their situation. 1:01:05.640 --> 1:01:08.560 And it's and still when you get in it's thirty 1:01:08.600 --> 1:01:11.720 plus years. Yeah, and all the success because Push It 1:01:11.880 --> 1:01:12.680 hadn't come out yet. 1:01:13.480 --> 1:01:16.560 Push It, Push It came out when I got there. Yeah, 1:01:16.680 --> 1:01:18.880 when Yeah, we did the video for it. We shot 1:01:18.920 --> 1:01:20.520 the video. As a matter of fact, the story is 1:01:21.280 --> 1:01:23.640 we were doing we were on that tour and we 1:01:23.720 --> 1:01:26.160 were on the Wipeout tours the Fat Boys, Heavy D 1:01:26.320 --> 1:01:29.520 and the Boys, Salt and Pepper, Dana. 1:01:29.360 --> 1:01:32.920 Dane and Clark Kent. 1:01:33.080 --> 1:01:33.240 DJ. 1:01:33.320 --> 1:01:38.120 Clark Kent was on it, and we weren't doing Push It. 1:01:39.120 --> 1:01:41.480 And then they were like, I guess some DJ and 1:01:43.160 --> 1:01:47.960 in either Hawaii or the Bay played push It and 1:01:48.080 --> 1:01:49.440 it just got viral. 1:01:50.400 --> 1:01:52.200 It, you know, caught fire because it was a B 1:01:52.360 --> 1:01:53.240 side of a record, right. 1:01:53.200 --> 1:01:56.439 It was the B side of Tramp Tramp Tramp, yes 1:01:56.600 --> 1:01:58.960 what you called me. And then they were like you 1:01:59.040 --> 1:02:01.640 got to play push It? And I was like all right, 1:02:01.760 --> 1:02:04.240 they gave me the vinyl and I'll drop push It. 1:02:04.320 --> 1:02:04.800 And it was like. 1:02:06.680 --> 1:02:08.480 And we we really didn't want to do that song. 1:02:08.520 --> 1:02:11.080 We thought it was a parody. Like we were like, 1:02:12.440 --> 1:02:15.520 it was, well, not a parody, but we thought it 1:02:15.680 --> 1:02:19.680 was like a funny like what's the word just being 1:02:19.800 --> 1:02:23.320 fun like fun not parody, but something you know, funny. 1:02:24.320 --> 1:02:27.160 You didn't think that at all. Well he did. It 1:02:27.920 --> 1:02:31.480 was a serious hip hop record. We didn't as in salt. 1:02:32.640 --> 1:02:34.960 And then Herbie, well these are things you want. You 1:02:35.000 --> 1:02:35.480 wanted to know. 1:02:36.920 --> 1:02:40.960 And then Herbie, Herbie you know, was like he was 1:02:41.040 --> 1:02:42.120 really behind the song. 1:02:42.240 --> 1:02:42.720 He wanted it. 1:02:42.840 --> 1:02:44.840 So it was like we gotta do, we gotta do 1:02:44.920 --> 1:02:45.240 push it. 1:02:45.440 --> 1:02:46.320 Let's you know, test it. 1:02:46.800 --> 1:02:47.080 We did. 1:02:48.120 --> 1:02:53.440 Do you realize how many movies pushing it is in? 1:02:54.320 --> 1:02:58.280 It's in a few huh every time watch I'll watch 1:02:58.320 --> 1:02:59.880 a movie and I'll be like. 1:03:00.160 --> 1:03:04.800 Shoe, So is that one of your discrepancies? 1:03:04.880 --> 1:03:05.040 Is that? 1:03:05.240 --> 1:03:08.720 Because I ain't gonna lie to you, this is full discrepancy, 1:03:09.000 --> 1:03:15.200 full disclosureloure. That's what I mean. Every time I hear 1:03:15.240 --> 1:03:17.520 a super Doug played in the movie, I get you 1:03:17.600 --> 1:03:19.560 gotta get your check. I don't get nothing. You got 1:03:19.680 --> 1:03:22.200 to get I get it next year. Next year it 1:03:22.280 --> 1:03:25.520 is my twenty five. It reverts to him. I could 1:03:25.520 --> 1:03:28.640 have brought it back. I have, uh what is it 1:03:28.720 --> 1:03:31.040 called residuals to do it, to buy it. 1:03:31.360 --> 1:03:34.800 But it's like if I wait till March, I get 1:03:34.840 --> 1:03:37.200 it back for free and then I could do business. 1:03:38.120 --> 1:03:41.600 So I'm yeah, I want to wait, but I look 1:03:41.760 --> 1:03:45.640 at like I saw Entourage the movie and then my 1:03:45.840 --> 1:03:49.720 record came on and everybody's like, hey, congratulations, and I'm 1:03:49.760 --> 1:03:51.880 looking at them like I didn't even know this ship 1:03:52.000 --> 1:03:53.680 was in there. But I'm not going to tell them 1:03:53.760 --> 1:03:56.680 that because I don't want them to know. Actually, my business. 1:03:58.600 --> 1:04:01.080 When you here pushed it, do you do you feel. 1:04:00.880 --> 1:04:02.040 Like that, Well, I'm not. 1:04:03.040 --> 1:04:05.240 I'm not a writer on push it, So you have 1:04:05.440 --> 1:04:07.720 to be part of the part of the SA performer. 1:04:08.200 --> 1:04:10.600 You know, Salt and Pepper Food performed that song before 1:04:10.680 --> 1:04:13.840 I joined them, so they they not performed it. They 1:04:14.360 --> 1:04:16.200 recorded it before I joined them. 1:04:17.080 --> 1:04:17.800 It just hadn't hit. 1:04:18.080 --> 1:04:18.880 It just hadn't been. 1:04:19.880 --> 1:04:22.280 It started to hit when I came in and we 1:04:22.800 --> 1:04:24.640 played it in the show. Then it started to blow up. 1:04:25.240 --> 1:04:28.520 But when you're on the song, and when you're writing 1:04:28.640 --> 1:04:30.480 on a song, or when you produce a song, that's 1:04:30.480 --> 1:04:32.480 when you should be able to collect on that. 1:04:33.040 --> 1:04:36.240 You know, Uh, what a man is a different story. 1:04:36.520 --> 1:04:37.040 What a man? 1:04:37.640 --> 1:04:38.120 What a man? 1:04:39.160 --> 1:04:42.400 If you hear what a man on a commercial or anything, man, 1:04:42.600 --> 1:04:47.080 that's a check. Yeah, let's talk about sex is another one. 1:04:47.600 --> 1:04:50.800 Let's let's let's stick with what a man? Though, okay, yeah, 1:04:50.840 --> 1:04:53.120 in the studio, what happens? What is? What is? How 1:04:53.120 --> 1:04:54.040 does his magic work? 1:04:54.360 --> 1:04:54.880 Oh my god? 1:04:55.760 --> 1:04:57.520 Well I know how it worked for me. 1:05:02.320 --> 1:05:05.240 They would do their own recording and then they would 1:05:05.280 --> 1:05:08.360 call me in and I would do mine. So everybody's 1:05:08.440 --> 1:05:12.760 kind of a separate and then piece together. Yeah, everybody 1:05:12.800 --> 1:05:19.360 would be separate and piece together that particular song was done, 1:05:19.440 --> 1:05:24.080 and I you know it's been so long. Yeah, it 1:05:24.080 --> 1:05:25.720 would just be like if I recorded on a song, 1:05:25.800 --> 1:05:27.840 it'd be like, d D, can you come in at 1:05:28.280 --> 1:05:29.360 seven seven o'clock? 1:05:30.000 --> 1:05:32.160 Sorry, said, my name is d D. I love that. 1:05:32.480 --> 1:05:35.640 But they called you, they didn't call you, spend them. Yeah, 1:05:35.640 --> 1:05:36.760 they call they call me d D. 1:05:36.880 --> 1:05:37.920 I call them Cheryl. 1:05:38.120 --> 1:05:38.880 I still call we. 1:05:38.920 --> 1:05:42.640 Called we called Pepa, Sandy. We call us by each other, 1:05:42.720 --> 1:05:43.800 by our first names. 1:05:44.160 --> 1:05:46.440 I don't think you never called me Victor neither. When 1:05:46.520 --> 1:05:48.080 we get pissed, be first name. 1:05:53.600 --> 1:05:57.200 That's how you know you know somebody, you know, Yeah, 1:05:57.240 --> 1:05:59.360 we call each other. But yes, it went like that 1:05:59.520 --> 1:06:02.520 when when it was time to record. And I know 1:06:02.640 --> 1:06:06.160 when I started doing I did. I didn't really know 1:06:06.320 --> 1:06:07.880 that I had the talent of rapping. 1:06:08.360 --> 1:06:09.000 You know what I'm saying. 1:06:09.160 --> 1:06:09.880 I didn't know. 1:06:10.040 --> 1:06:12.560 I was just like, all right, whatever. I was just DJing, 1:06:12.600 --> 1:06:14.600 doing my thing, and then Herbie would call me in 1:06:14.720 --> 1:06:17.320 and be like, come do the song. Oh you sound 1:06:17.360 --> 1:06:19.640 good on that. Come do this one, Come do this one. 1:06:19.840 --> 1:06:21.760 And so that's how it went. It was like, and 1:06:21.840 --> 1:06:25.440 you were writing your own stuff. I wrote, but I 1:06:25.680 --> 1:06:29.680 can't say I wrote what a man? Okay, the songs 1:06:29.760 --> 1:06:32.440 that I produced for Salt and Pepper I wrote on 1:06:33.800 --> 1:06:34.320 Fish today. 1:06:34.640 --> 1:06:38.360 Yeah, that's incredible. With Thomas. 1:06:38.840 --> 1:06:43.640 You explain her the rules, the rules okay. Again, is 1:06:43.640 --> 1:06:47.040 a drinking game, oh ship, Okay, you should have told 1:06:47.080 --> 1:06:48.120 me that before I started drinking. 1:06:48.160 --> 1:06:50.600 I'm gonna be honest with you. I said it earlier. 1:06:50.800 --> 1:06:54.120 But she has the wildest drink order in drink Champs history. 1:06:54.400 --> 1:06:59.480 I do top three. I just don't think she meant 1:06:59.760 --> 1:07:03.520 all that at once. That's why he took it. We 1:07:03.600 --> 1:07:08.200 said that he's like Hanny Ace. It was the other thing. 1:07:08.280 --> 1:07:19.440 No, no, no, yo, wake up brother, Yo, listen man. 1:07:19.840 --> 1:07:22.000 I know you see and Ship and you're trying to 1:07:22.000 --> 1:07:23.320 get somebody to go with you the Turks. 1:07:23.520 --> 1:07:32.360 But you'll her order was vodka, Hannesy, not conjact. That's 1:07:32.400 --> 1:07:33.120 what threw me off. 1:07:33.320 --> 1:07:35.640 I was like, most people say conyact and like they 1:07:35.680 --> 1:07:39.120 will say any she said, you said, Hennessy said. 1:07:39.000 --> 1:07:40.840 Is on my writer. No, I was like, I was 1:07:40.920 --> 1:07:46.040 like spinning brother on a fight because he is on 1:07:46.160 --> 1:07:46.520 my writer. 1:07:47.160 --> 1:07:50.040 That's like, it's like Hennessey privilege. That has to be privileged. 1:07:50.080 --> 1:07:56.240 See, we didn't get the privilege on Hennessy whiskey and tequila. 1:07:56.560 --> 1:07:58.560 By the way, I'm gonna be honest. 1:07:59.400 --> 1:07:59.919 What do you drink? 1:08:00.000 --> 1:08:00.880 I said, I drink all of. 1:08:00.880 --> 1:08:03.600 That since when I see this order, I was like, 1:08:04.480 --> 1:08:05.240 it's going down. 1:08:05.960 --> 1:08:07.560 Yes, you got a drink? 1:08:07.560 --> 1:08:07.720 Bad? 1:08:07.880 --> 1:08:10.640 Yes, please come on, husband, can get your ass a drink. 1:08:10.720 --> 1:08:13.040 Man, Okay, you want to drink? 1:08:13.960 --> 1:08:17.479 My daughter wants to drink. Yes, please, Okay, I'm ready 1:08:17.479 --> 1:08:18.479 for the game. Okay, let's go. 1:08:18.600 --> 1:08:20.519 Actually, before we start, I want to say happy birthday 1:08:20.560 --> 1:08:22.720 to Kayla's her twenty first birthday is Charlie's daughter. 1:08:25.800 --> 1:08:26.519 Shout out to her. 1:08:26.560 --> 1:08:28.160 I told her this would be a great episode for 1:08:28.200 --> 1:08:30.240 her to come. Such a good role model to be here. 1:08:30.560 --> 1:08:35.080 Okay, Leo yo season Hey wait all right, so Leo 1:08:35.280 --> 1:08:38.320 goes and then virgos after right, Yeah, I guess you're next, 1:08:38.360 --> 1:08:38.680 aren't you? 1:08:39.080 --> 1:08:42.920 How you yeah, okay, my daughter is a virgo. You 1:08:43.000 --> 1:08:51.880 a virgo? What's your date? Is that? You? And he 1:08:51.960 --> 1:09:05.960 kept saying we related. You said, look at that, look 1:09:06.000 --> 1:09:08.080 at that. I think he thinks when he saw you 1:09:08.160 --> 1:09:13.080 in left right, I decided to have a baby on 1:09:13.200 --> 1:09:21.360 his birthday. That twins. That's why he said, I got. 1:09:21.280 --> 1:09:25.400 A connection with her. But your literal twins birthday twins? 1:09:25.720 --> 1:09:27.439 How cool is Foxy Brown? 1:09:28.040 --> 1:09:31.320 Real Foxes said I'm gonna take shout out Foxy man. 1:09:31.360 --> 1:09:33.439 We need her on here, we need foxing on whole. 1:09:33.520 --> 1:09:35.360 God let me know when now I booked up my 1:09:35.479 --> 1:09:39.439 childhood and resonated my manhood. 1:09:38.960 --> 1:09:42.679 At the same time. Okay, So we were explaining the rules, 1:09:43.000 --> 1:09:44.519 trying to this this. 1:09:45.560 --> 1:09:48.439 I ain't gonna lie stop no more, no more, stop 1:09:48.479 --> 1:09:49.360 talking no more. 1:09:51.360 --> 1:09:53.960 I'm gonna let you do it. I got yours dates. 1:09:54.520 --> 1:09:57.439 Let you know this stuff. Don't talk no more. So 1:09:58.439 --> 1:10:03.160 Tember sixth, she just came out. I had no idea. 1:10:03.200 --> 1:10:04.519 I'm looking up like still. 1:10:06.960 --> 1:10:09.360 We're going to give you two choices. And this is 1:10:09.400 --> 1:10:11.519 not to pin anybody against each other. It's just random 1:10:11.560 --> 1:10:13.800 two choices. These guys over here, and we would like 1:10:13.880 --> 1:10:17.719 to drink. Yeah, and if you pick one, nobody drinks. 1:10:18.360 --> 1:10:20.960 But if you say both of them or neither of them, 1:10:21.000 --> 1:10:22.720 which would be the PC answer. 1:10:23.200 --> 1:10:23.759 Say it again. 1:10:24.320 --> 1:10:26.840 If I pick one, If you picked one, nobody drinks, 1:10:26.840 --> 1:10:30.160 nobody drinks. And if you don't pick we drink. Basically 1:10:30.479 --> 1:10:32.360 all of us, we all drink together. We're all going 1:10:32.400 --> 1:10:32.920 to get drunks. 1:10:33.280 --> 1:10:33.680 Pick one. 1:10:34.280 --> 1:10:38.160 And if you have stories with anybody, please alladin. And 1:10:38.280 --> 1:10:41.160 it's whatever the reason in your mind is. Don't it's 1:10:41.439 --> 1:10:42.360 maybe you would. 1:10:42.120 --> 1:10:44.519 Be the reason of choosing one one or one. 1:10:44.479 --> 1:10:46.639 Might be more a friend of yours. One, you might 1:10:46.720 --> 1:10:49.439 like the music, whatever it is, it's what stands out 1:10:49.479 --> 1:10:49.840 more to me. 1:10:51.120 --> 1:10:53.400 I love how she's she's never been in the resource room. 1:10:53.720 --> 1:10:56.560 You see how she's she was assessed you. 1:10:56.640 --> 1:10:57.720 No, no, no, no, she's like. 1:11:00.160 --> 1:11:04.000 Very clear like the house. Good tell that she's very smart. 1:11:04.920 --> 1:11:06.759 All right, By the way, all of all the guests 1:11:06.880 --> 1:11:11.160 has not been Oh all right. First one is Primo 1:11:11.320 --> 1:11:12.160 or Pete Rock. 1:11:13.240 --> 1:11:17.479 Pete Rock, And I love Primo Pete Okay, so Pete Rock, 1:11:18.160 --> 1:11:22.240 So oh yeah. I used to date Eddie f Eddief 1:11:22.360 --> 1:11:25.920 was Heavy D and the boys. When it's when I 1:11:25.920 --> 1:11:28.880 would go to Eddief's house, Heavy D would come over. 1:11:29.000 --> 1:11:31.280 They would you know, do their recording or whatever. Pete 1:11:31.360 --> 1:11:33.519 Rock would always be coming coming over there all in 1:11:33.560 --> 1:11:37.040 Mount Vernon, and Pete Rock was like a kid so 1:11:37.680 --> 1:11:40.200 and I was a kid. But it was like we both, 1:11:40.320 --> 1:11:43.080 you know, we're young and just kind of watching heavy 1:11:43.120 --> 1:11:46.240 d and the boys develop and do their thing or whatever. 1:11:46.680 --> 1:11:49.960 And Pete would be there, you know, just messing around 1:11:50.000 --> 1:11:52.720 with the drum machine Eddief's drum machine and stuff like that. 1:11:52.960 --> 1:11:57.599 So I have a like, that's like a brother to me, Pete. 1:11:57.680 --> 1:12:00.880 But you picked Primo, No, I said, Pete. I said, 1:12:00.960 --> 1:12:04.599 Primo is my is my boy. But it's okay, okay, okay, 1:12:05.240 --> 1:12:08.519 Queen of Tea for MC light take a shot. 1:12:08.880 --> 1:12:09.639 Let's take a shot. 1:12:09.800 --> 1:12:12.080 Hey man, no Lean witness bro. I just want to drink. 1:12:12.280 --> 1:12:14.960 I like, and I love both of them. I should say, 1:12:15.640 --> 1:12:19.920 I just came from New York Funk Flex or DJ 1:12:20.080 --> 1:12:33.160 Clue cheers. What what do I say? I don't know. 1:12:34.240 --> 1:12:39.120 You're gonna say nothing. You're drinking. That says enough, all right, 1:12:40.000 --> 1:12:44.439 Lady of Rage or Yo yo oh Ship. I love 1:12:44.520 --> 1:12:50.720 both of them. This is not fair. This is the 1:12:50.840 --> 1:12:52.559 name of the game. We're trying to get you drunk. 1:12:53.840 --> 1:12:55.000 This is where it all goes down there. 1:12:55.640 --> 1:12:56.599 I'm gonna make a decision. 1:12:56.720 --> 1:13:01.040 Okay, see some people do this. My Leo's sister, some 1:13:01.400 --> 1:13:02.840 Leos before Virgo right. 1:13:03.160 --> 1:13:08.160 Leo's yeah, yeah, yeah, Leo's before Virgot. 1:13:08.280 --> 1:13:09.600 Hold out Virgos. 1:13:11.720 --> 1:13:14.679 I'm gonna say, yo yo, Okay, So no drinking, drinking 1:13:15.200 --> 1:13:16.519 all and Rage is going to. 1:13:16.560 --> 1:13:17.679 Actually be on that TV. 1:13:17.960 --> 1:13:19.680 She has a new movie coming out, y'all know. 1:13:19.840 --> 1:13:23.920 The Miss Cleo one Yes, didn't it come out? Is 1:13:23.920 --> 1:13:26.479 going to be Miss Yes. I saw clips. 1:13:28.040 --> 1:13:30.200 It's going to be for her. 1:13:30.360 --> 1:13:31.840 Yeah. I want to be a part of that. We 1:13:31.880 --> 1:13:33.439 need both of them on drinks. By the way, I 1:13:33.520 --> 1:13:36.559 want to watch the movie. Excuse me all right? Next one. 1:13:38.520 --> 1:13:44.880 J J Fat or Oaktown three five seven Oaktown. 1:13:42.920 --> 1:13:44.400 Three f seven really okay? 1:13:45.320 --> 1:13:50.960 Because sweet ld is my girl and she lives in Dallas. 1:13:51.080 --> 1:13:53.080 We live in Dallas. So she comes in, we hang out. 1:13:53.200 --> 1:13:55.400 Did you get you guys tour with with Hammer and them? Yes, 1:13:55.479 --> 1:13:58.400 we did that. That must have been crazy show honey Hammer? 1:13:59.360 --> 1:14:02.680 Did you say, honey, honey, that's old school ship right. 1:14:03.560 --> 1:14:08.320 Let me tell you about Let me tell you about Hamma. 1:14:08.840 --> 1:14:11.559 Hamma was put on like he was when we were 1:14:11.600 --> 1:14:13.519 on that tour. The wipe was if the White Tour 1:14:13.520 --> 1:14:14.880 it might have been. I don't know if it's the 1:14:14.880 --> 1:14:18.040 White All Tour or the other tour, but Hammer would 1:14:18.080 --> 1:14:19.840 be when we would come to the West coast, Hamma 1:14:19.880 --> 1:14:20.479 would open. 1:14:21.240 --> 1:14:24.800 By the end of the tour, Hammo was closing. So 1:14:26.000 --> 1:14:29.320 I mean, because he was that man, he was that dope. 1:14:29.640 --> 1:14:31.720 When he started on his side, he was opening, he 1:14:31.840 --> 1:14:33.800 was opening, and then by the end he was close. 1:14:34.680 --> 1:14:38.240 Jeans that's he had on the baggage. No, he had, 1:14:38.560 --> 1:14:40.680 he had a baggage. He had on a bag of. 1:14:42.360 --> 1:14:43.200 Pants the whole time though. 1:14:43.439 --> 1:14:46.520 Yeah, it was official performers. 1:14:46.840 --> 1:14:51.519 One of the best performers period energy I mean his 1:14:51.720 --> 1:14:54.479 dancers and Sweet Old from three four seven was one 1:14:54.520 --> 1:14:54.720 of them. 1:14:54.720 --> 1:14:56.080 I used to be on the side of the stage like, 1:14:56.160 --> 1:14:58.519 oh my god. They were so like. 1:15:00.120 --> 1:15:03.360 Still going after Himmer. This is this, This was our 1:15:03.400 --> 1:15:05.680 train of thought back then. Nobody wanted to go on 1:15:05.720 --> 1:15:06.200 after Himmer. 1:15:06.240 --> 1:15:13.080 So yeah, I don't even know what that meant. I 1:15:13.200 --> 1:15:18.240 was like, that's hard. Put you in the mix. 1:15:20.920 --> 1:15:28.040 You m TV raps are rap city? M mmm rap City? Okay, 1:15:28.439 --> 1:15:29.639 any rap City stories. 1:15:30.400 --> 1:15:33.760 I've never been on Rap City but uh, oh no, 1:15:33.960 --> 1:15:38.000 you picked Rap City, I picked and I used to 1:15:38.240 --> 1:15:40.640 love watching it. I mean I loved you know, I 1:15:40.760 --> 1:15:43.320 love the Basement. I loved you know, that was my era. 1:15:43.560 --> 1:15:45.000 How about your TV rap stories? 1:15:45.120 --> 1:15:48.280 Now, know you were one of the first, that's right, 1:15:49.200 --> 1:15:51.200 Love Doctor D and Fat Fire Freddy. 1:15:51.400 --> 1:15:54.640 Yes, yes, we were talking about first and then yeah, yeah, right, 1:15:54.720 --> 1:15:57.240 and we won Fat Fire Show. Okay, so yeah, tell 1:15:57.320 --> 1:15:57.760 us about that. 1:15:59.439 --> 1:16:02.840 We would we were like hip hop's darlings, I don't know, 1:16:03.640 --> 1:16:07.280 Salt and Pepper, and they would call us, you know, 1:16:07.720 --> 1:16:11.280 but MTV they you know, they loved on us. 1:16:11.360 --> 1:16:14.479 So we were a part of that earlier stage of 1:16:14.560 --> 1:16:16.439 hip hop being on TV. 1:16:16.760 --> 1:16:20.280 It was an important show. So let me ask you. 1:16:20.320 --> 1:16:22.120 This is a little off topic because we're still on 1:16:22.240 --> 1:16:25.240 Quick Thomas Slim. But you knew Tupac, correct. 1:16:25.680 --> 1:16:29.240 Yes, I met. I can't say I knew him, but 1:16:29.840 --> 1:16:32.479 he had he had he had he had a thing 1:16:32.560 --> 1:16:38.519 for Salt so so so, so your memory of Tupac 1:16:38.840 --> 1:16:43.000 was you seeing him and him saying to you we're Salt, Salt, 1:16:43.479 --> 1:16:46.120 We're your girl, like that, that type of thing. But yeah, 1:16:46.120 --> 1:16:48.000 he was in what a man video. 1:16:49.240 --> 1:16:50.679 That was like he had the hormone. 1:16:51.760 --> 1:16:52.200 I don't know. 1:16:53.720 --> 1:16:56.559 The chain. I don't remember the vio. 1:16:59.120 --> 1:17:00.840 Yeah he did have a chain on now thinking about it, 1:17:01.120 --> 1:17:03.160 but he was turned, his body was turned. 1:17:03.160 --> 1:17:05.680 They wouldn't show his face. It was it was some 1:17:05.760 --> 1:17:09.360 political ship. Really okay, this is after he came home. Yeah, yeah, 1:17:09.600 --> 1:17:10.080 and he was. 1:17:12.040 --> 1:17:14.800 According to I don't know if it was him. He 1:17:14.840 --> 1:17:17.200 had an issue with it because he wasn't shown in 1:17:17.280 --> 1:17:19.040 the video that what a man video. He was mad 1:17:19.080 --> 1:17:21.760 that he wasn't shown, right, but it had something to 1:17:21.880 --> 1:17:28.240 do it was I don't know. I can't say because 1:17:28.280 --> 1:17:29.120 it's like it's. 1:17:31.240 --> 1:17:34.840 Time of the East Coast, West Coast b No, no, no, no, 1:17:35.200 --> 1:17:36.160 this was this one. 1:17:39.880 --> 1:17:44.080 I was considered a bad boy and it was good girls. 1:17:44.200 --> 1:17:46.320 It was like having a bad boy and a good 1:17:46.400 --> 1:17:48.519 girl together in. 1:17:48.560 --> 1:17:51.120 That same video. Yeah, but it was like Tupac was 1:17:51.200 --> 1:17:55.080 like a bad boy, you know, and he shot the 1:17:55.120 --> 1:17:57.479 police I think this time. I think it was around 1:17:57.520 --> 1:17:58.679 that time he shot the Atlanta. 1:17:58.840 --> 1:18:00.280 It was yeah, oh yeah, it was. 1:18:00.640 --> 1:18:02.880 It was some issues around that, but I was like, 1:18:03.000 --> 1:18:06.439 should show him that. It's like sucking Tupac, you know, 1:18:06.840 --> 1:18:10.720 that's pop. But yeah, he was real sweet when when 1:18:11.200 --> 1:18:14.679 when I met him so yeah, but he was interested 1:18:14.680 --> 1:18:15.080 in sall. 1:18:16.880 --> 1:18:24.680 She's such a class act. Man, what I'm like, you 1:18:24.720 --> 1:18:28.040 want me to tell some stuff? Of course he wants 1:18:28.040 --> 1:18:32.639 you to. But I'm like a therapist that analyze people, 1:18:32.800 --> 1:18:37.080 and I'm just telling you your class. I really appreciate you. 1:18:37.640 --> 1:18:41.200 But you didn't expect anything less, So you know what, 1:18:41.520 --> 1:18:44.439 You're right, I didn't expect anything less because you're the. 1:18:44.439 --> 1:18:49.240 Next question Trina or Eve? The way you said that 1:18:50.640 --> 1:18:54.760 he's a hard and I love both of them. I'm 1:18:54.760 --> 1:18:55.519 gonna have to drink. 1:18:56.720 --> 1:19:00.760 I can't say. I can't say, you know, I'm trying 1:19:00.760 --> 1:19:02.800 to see what stories I have for both, but you 1:19:02.880 --> 1:19:04.800 know I have respect for both. 1:19:04.840 --> 1:19:07.360 So do you do you have any stories with any 1:19:07.400 --> 1:19:10.640 one of them? You got to take the shot, though 1:19:11.080 --> 1:19:17.599 I did. It's called drink champs, not sick champs. Jamie. 1:19:17.600 --> 1:19:21.200 You can make you have the ill drink order. Ever 1:19:24.200 --> 1:19:27.920 many more questions have we got? That's we got. We 1:19:28.000 --> 1:19:30.040 got questions for you. Okay, that's what I'm taking about 1:19:30.040 --> 1:19:32.519 that we've been having. I am not a champell you 1:19:32.640 --> 1:19:34.639 right now. I'm not a champ. No, but your drink 1:19:34.760 --> 1:19:37.680 order is a chance. Like when I looked at it, 1:19:37.800 --> 1:19:42.160 I was like, oh my god, whiskey vodka. 1:19:43.000 --> 1:19:46.479 And what's the other one. It's the third one, tequila tequila. 1:19:46.600 --> 1:19:54.639 I said tequila Hennessy. Who scared me? I said it earlier, 1:19:55.240 --> 1:19:59.520 but she said Hennessy when people people usually say kanyak. 1:20:00.320 --> 1:20:05.080 When you say Hennessy, that means you aren't fight. Everybody 1:20:05.120 --> 1:20:05.920 who drinks Hennessy. 1:20:06.240 --> 1:20:07.880 They don't do that for me. It doesn't do that 1:20:07.960 --> 1:20:10.200 for Hennessy calms you down nowhere. 1:20:10.840 --> 1:20:15.200 No, when I drink Hennessee, I'm gonna rock a motherfucker party, 1:20:15.240 --> 1:20:15.560 I know that. 1:20:17.640 --> 1:20:19.760 But yeah, that was it was on my rider. I 1:20:19.800 --> 1:20:21.360 don't even drink it like that anymore. 1:20:21.600 --> 1:20:24.320 This is this is fad, fad, your facetiming. Let's see 1:20:24.320 --> 1:20:27.160 if you see if you pick up yeah, every time 1:20:27.160 --> 1:20:28.000 we feel he loves to. 1:20:28.040 --> 1:20:38.200 Be on drinks chance, Let's see. Yeah, we got spreading Norella. 1:20:38.280 --> 1:20:41.040 We got spread on drinking all right, you got the 1:20:41.120 --> 1:20:52.840 green bottle? Hold on, say how to Sprinderella, Say how 1:20:52.880 --> 1:20:53.600 to Sprenderella. 1:20:54.120 --> 1:20:59.040 Hey, Joe, I'm good in here with the antics right now. 1:20:59.800 --> 1:21:01.600 The Shenanigans. 1:21:07.120 --> 1:21:11.760 Cool, It could never be. Nobody can duplicate that. And 1:21:11.960 --> 1:21:16.599 the women power that you have, it's unlivable. 1:21:17.479 --> 1:21:20.599 I've been on shows that you guys, we it'sn't ten 1:21:20.680 --> 1:21:23.840 thousand people and it's been nine thousand, nine hundred. 1:21:23.600 --> 1:21:28.320 Women, right, I've never seen up. No, Well, yeah, we've 1:21:28.320 --> 1:21:31.559 got the women love. We got the women love. Thank you, bro, 1:21:31.760 --> 1:21:39.560 thank you so much. I'm gonna be honest with you. 1:21:41.320 --> 1:21:44.360 Don't be dishonest. No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't listen. 1:21:44.680 --> 1:21:46.960 I flew up for Joe. He's getting the key to 1:21:47.000 --> 1:21:49.559 the city, so I flew up. But I wouldn't miss 1:21:49.640 --> 1:21:53.240 this for nothing. Really, I really really wanted to give 1:21:53.280 --> 1:21:56.920 you your flowers. I really want you to know how 1:21:56.960 --> 1:22:02.080 important you are the hip hop and your legacy. I'm 1:22:02.120 --> 1:22:04.679 not saying you your legacy with stain people. I'm saying 1:22:04.760 --> 1:22:08.439 your legacy by yourself, because you have a legacy like. 1:22:08.600 --> 1:22:09.439 Just like me and e f N. 1:22:09.600 --> 1:22:12.880 Like ef N has a legacy with me, then I 1:22:13.000 --> 1:22:15.760 have a legacy with Capone, and then I have a 1:22:15.840 --> 1:22:18.000 legacy up here, and e f N has a legacy 1:22:18.080 --> 1:22:19.840 with me that he has a legacy up here. 1:22:19.920 --> 1:22:21.519 Everybody's at their own journey, and. 1:22:21.520 --> 1:22:22.840 I'm talking about your journey. 1:22:24.200 --> 1:22:29.320 And in case you don't know this, it's my job 1:22:29.400 --> 1:22:32.760 to reiterate this and tell you how important you are. 1:22:34.360 --> 1:22:42.120 Our community are I wanted to say Illuminati, but then 1:22:42.240 --> 1:22:44.240 it were kind of like this guy, I don't know 1:22:45.520 --> 1:22:48.560 our fraternity is a fraternity. 1:22:48.880 --> 1:22:49.479 That's better than. 1:22:51.040 --> 1:22:55.479 Is a fraternity that because I don't know about that community. 1:22:55.520 --> 1:23:00.120 You're a good with community community, all right, culture, I'm trying. 1:22:59.960 --> 1:23:03.719 To be smarter than Okay. I feel you though, really 1:23:04.080 --> 1:23:12.160 really love the way that you paved for our generation. 1:23:13.760 --> 1:23:17.040 Is that cool? My community generation is better? That works? 1:23:17.160 --> 1:23:20.080 Okay, Before we continue to came, I just want to 1:23:20.120 --> 1:23:22.400 let y'all know because I kept saying, I remember this, 1:23:22.880 --> 1:23:26.320 this this concept of me coming on here had to 1:23:26.320 --> 1:23:28.120 be a couple of years now, and I was like, 1:23:28.200 --> 1:23:30.000 I don't think i'm ready. I don't think i'm ready. 1:23:30.320 --> 1:23:32.200 I kept saying, I'm not ready. I don't know, you know, 1:23:33.040 --> 1:23:36.240 and I don't know what made it different this time. 1:23:36.680 --> 1:23:38.600 I guess if it's like, you know what, fuck it, 1:23:39.479 --> 1:23:42.200 it's fun. Yeah, just come have fun because I always 1:23:42.240 --> 1:23:44.720 feel like I have to have some ship going on, 1:23:45.880 --> 1:23:48.960 you know, but this is this is your conversation is 1:23:49.040 --> 1:23:51.679 important to me, and you guys have made me feel 1:23:51.800 --> 1:23:52.599 very warm today. 1:23:52.880 --> 1:23:57.679 I just wanted to be very comfortable. 1:23:57.760 --> 1:23:59.720 I don't want to have to like I'm doing this, 1:23:59.880 --> 1:24:02.599 I'm doing that, I'm working. I'm still working everybody. 1:24:02.920 --> 1:24:05.960 But I love that you guys are just like, let's 1:24:06.000 --> 1:24:11.679 have a good conversation, have a good conversation, but let's 1:24:11.760 --> 1:24:15.760 own let's also give you a flowers because I'm gonna 1:24:15.760 --> 1:24:16.400 be honest with you. 1:24:18.800 --> 1:24:25.679 I am an artist. I'm not a DJ, but artists 1:24:25.680 --> 1:24:29.519 and DJs we always like, we'll do this ship if 1:24:29.560 --> 1:24:32.280 we wouldn't get no money. And some of us are liars. 1:24:33.920 --> 1:24:36.000 We wouldn't do this if he was getting no money. 1:24:36.880 --> 1:24:40.400 But then the ones that are doing it, we should 1:24:40.479 --> 1:24:47.200 be saluted because it's a horrible job. You can never 1:24:47.320 --> 1:24:51.200 take your face off. You can never go to ups 1:24:51.320 --> 1:24:53.920 and send the package and say I'm not spending brother 1:24:54.080 --> 1:24:54.360 no more. 1:24:54.560 --> 1:24:57.360 There's somebody back Bran. 1:24:57.720 --> 1:25:05.560 It's gonna be like, I know I love her, and 1:25:05.800 --> 1:25:10.640 that ship deserves to be warranted. Like you can't like 1:25:10.880 --> 1:25:13.280 your fan is my friend. I know he hates fans, 1:25:13.920 --> 1:25:17.280 I can I know he never said it to me, 1:25:17.400 --> 1:25:20.240 He's never said it, he's never said I don't. I 1:25:20.560 --> 1:25:24.240 know he hates fans, but we can't fight it. The 1:25:24.320 --> 1:25:25.720 thing is we are who we are. 1:25:28.520 --> 1:25:31.160 Let's go back because it's a long time. 1:25:31.320 --> 1:25:36.920 Slash took the wrong part of the picked up the 1:25:37.000 --> 1:25:44.320 fire all right, robbas or follow mc robb and rest 1:25:44.360 --> 1:25:46.559 in peace. Easy rock, Yes, Rob. 1:25:48.800 --> 1:25:50.439 Robbase, he has a great state show. 1:25:51.000 --> 1:25:56.280 Everybody to say Missy or Lauren Hill, Oh my. 1:25:56.360 --> 1:25:58.720 God, I love both of them, but I'm gonna say Missy. 1:25:58.600 --> 1:25:59.679 She's not drinking anymore. 1:26:00.120 --> 1:26:02.400 I'm saying I'm gonna say no, but it's true. I 1:26:02.560 --> 1:26:04.760 love I mean, I love Laurence Hill, but I gotta 1:26:04.760 --> 1:26:07.920 say Missy. Missy is my like. I look up to 1:26:08.000 --> 1:26:11.720 Missy like, oh my god, she's beyond just hip hop. 1:26:11.840 --> 1:26:17.280 She's beyond just you know, a female artist. She's iconic now. 1:26:17.360 --> 1:26:21.320 That's iconic to me. And and her talent is her 1:26:21.360 --> 1:26:22.519 show right now is phenomenal. 1:26:22.680 --> 1:26:25.120 I know I haven't gotten to it. I haven't gotten 1:26:25.160 --> 1:26:26.599 to I've been doing my thing. 1:26:26.680 --> 1:26:31.760 But yeah, Busta, Missy and Sierra's all onto. Wow. 1:26:32.000 --> 1:26:35.680 Your Busta definitely told me about yesterday. Yeah, shout out 1:26:35.680 --> 1:26:39.479 to miss you ain't come to my tour alone. 1:26:40.840 --> 1:26:44.040 It's still going though. I mean to day they do. 1:26:45.200 --> 1:26:49.600 Beastie boys are fat boys. Fat boys any stories with 1:26:49.680 --> 1:26:52.360 either of them. Yeah, the Fat Boys, Oh my god. 1:26:53.280 --> 1:26:56.960 That was the first major tour Salt, Pepper, Sponderrella went 1:26:57.000 --> 1:27:00.400 on Boys. That's what when I auditioned was so Pepper 1:27:00.479 --> 1:27:02.920 was for that tour, the Fat Boy's Tour and my 1:27:03.080 --> 1:27:06.840 first show with Salt and Pepper, My first show with 1:27:06.880 --> 1:27:08.439 Salt and Pepper. Let me have a drink. 1:27:10.120 --> 1:27:19.560 Drink, I'm drink my first My first show was with 1:27:19.680 --> 1:27:20.360 Salt and Pepper. 1:27:20.840 --> 1:27:23.200 Salt and Pepper had to do a song called I 1:27:23.360 --> 1:27:27.680 Desire and all I had to do was drop a 1:27:27.840 --> 1:27:33.519 desire and it went like this, we're on a mission. 1:27:33.760 --> 1:27:36.320 This and all the opposition mcs, this is my butcher 1:27:36.520 --> 1:27:40.400 kissing because I desire and I didn't drop it. 1:27:40.880 --> 1:27:43.479 Oh, I did not drop I did not drop it. 1:27:44.080 --> 1:27:45.120 I was so scared. 1:27:45.160 --> 1:27:47.640 I was like, because this is the first tour you're on. 1:27:47.800 --> 1:27:51.479 It's the first show I've ever shown on the first tour, 1:27:51.600 --> 1:27:56.240 which was Fat Boy's Tour. And why was everybody on 1:27:56.320 --> 1:27:59.280 the side heavy d and the boys, the Fat Boys 1:28:00.120 --> 1:28:00.800 cracking up? 1:28:02.160 --> 1:28:06.080 They dropped the ball. Well, they that's a big part 1:28:06.160 --> 1:28:08.080 that the crowd didn't know. The crowded. 1:28:08.160 --> 1:28:10.320 The crowd didn't know and so and Pepper did really 1:28:10.400 --> 1:28:13.679 well in covering it. They was like, I desire you desire, 1:28:13.720 --> 1:28:25.519 spin you desire. I was like, we got the map. 1:28:26.960 --> 1:28:31.400 And eventually we got off the stage. 1:28:31.960 --> 1:28:33.840 Well, I got to drop the song, but I was 1:28:33.920 --> 1:28:40.240 done after that. And on the side, the Fat Boys 1:28:40.960 --> 1:28:49.000 Markie d with kuk Ski and buff rest in. 1:28:49.000 --> 1:28:55.320 Peace one is we need him to come on the 1:28:55.360 --> 1:28:55.800 show Man. 1:28:55.960 --> 1:28:58.360 They was cracking up on the side and at that 1:28:58.439 --> 1:29:00.200 point I was like, I want to go home. I said, 1:29:00.200 --> 1:29:01.800 I don't want to be spending rella no more. 1:29:02.240 --> 1:29:09.479 I don't want to because it was so bad. 1:29:09.840 --> 1:29:11.160 It was so bad, but. 1:29:12.880 --> 1:29:13.560 We got through it. 1:29:14.240 --> 1:29:16.800 They didn't laugh no more after that because he was 1:29:16.840 --> 1:29:20.120 on somehow I figured it out and I dropped it 1:29:20.200 --> 1:29:22.400 on point and look where we you know, we got. 1:29:22.320 --> 1:29:25.040 There, so we don't have to drink to that, okay, 1:29:26.520 --> 1:29:31.759 jam Master J or Doctor Dre jam rest in Peace stories. 1:29:33.880 --> 1:29:37.080 Just he was just a real cool dude. You know. 1:29:37.400 --> 1:29:41.240 I got to be around him in his uh, in 1:29:41.400 --> 1:29:45.280 his space when he was producing. My boy Stanley Brown, 1:29:46.240 --> 1:29:48.240 who's a producer. I don't know if you guys who 1:29:48.320 --> 1:29:52.120 know who Stanley is, He's a big time producer, brought 1:29:52.200 --> 1:29:56.360 me to he was producing with jam Master J. When 1:29:56.560 --> 1:29:59.679 when Jay was doing his stuff and brought me around 1:29:59.720 --> 1:30:03.040 to of the sessions or whatever, and I just got 1:30:03.120 --> 1:30:07.000 to see him at work. So yeah, I'm just he's 1:30:07.040 --> 1:30:11.240 one of my favorites. Yeah, mess the blueprint from me, 1:30:12.880 --> 1:30:15.680 and you have your own academy, right like, Like, well, no, 1:30:15.880 --> 1:30:17.840 I did some clinics. 1:30:18.360 --> 1:30:18.719 I didn't. 1:30:19.000 --> 1:30:21.360 I didn't have an academy. I wanted to, but I didn't. 1:30:21.400 --> 1:30:24.000 I didn't get to get it off the ground. But 1:30:24.120 --> 1:30:24.640 yes I do. 1:30:25.479 --> 1:30:27.200 I do spin clinics every so often. 1:30:27.280 --> 1:30:33.559 Yeah, that's dope clinics. J clinics rock Kim or karas one. 1:30:35.560 --> 1:30:47.320 That's hard going down. She's just so y'all really going in. Look, 1:30:47.320 --> 1:30:49.080 I'm like looking all right. 1:30:49.960 --> 1:30:52.800 Serrato or turntables, I mean nuts, Why would you say 1:30:52.840 --> 1:30:59.200 turntablesto or vinyl? No Serato or vinyl vinyl because you're 1:30:59.240 --> 1:31:04.360 gonna use Serrato on turntables, guys. Okay, okay, hold on, 1:31:04.479 --> 1:31:05.320 that's collector. 1:31:05.400 --> 1:31:07.519 I'm a collector of vinyl. So yes, vinyl. 1:31:07.800 --> 1:31:12.040 Yeah, listen to my detrimental. My favorite DJs all time 1:31:13.320 --> 1:31:15.120 and since it went digital. 1:31:16.400 --> 1:31:21.920 Is not DJs really, I mean DJ offic is my studio. 1:31:23.120 --> 1:31:25.000 I've done some gigs, but I stopped doing what I 1:31:25.120 --> 1:31:28.160 was doing. How active I was before. I didn't do 1:31:28.240 --> 1:31:29.240 a transition. 1:31:30.840 --> 1:31:35.000 DJ right like one of my parties, I'll get together 1:31:35.920 --> 1:31:37.559 and I don't. 1:31:37.520 --> 1:31:38.160 Think, can't know. 1:31:38.800 --> 1:31:41.720 It was a different thing to me, the culture of 1:31:41.840 --> 1:31:45.880 Vinyl DJ going through the records quickly, knowing just by 1:31:45.960 --> 1:31:48.360 the artwork really quick, grabbing the record, you. 1:31:48.439 --> 1:31:50.920 The label, and going this is just a whole thing. 1:31:51.080 --> 1:31:51.160 Now. 1:31:51.240 --> 1:31:53.160 I don't miss carrying the crates. I still have a 1:31:53.479 --> 1:31:55.160 lot of my records. But is it going for you? 1:31:55.600 --> 1:31:57.880 I mean it's not. You don't do it anymore at. 1:31:57.760 --> 1:32:00.840 All at the crib office in the studio. 1:32:02.160 --> 1:32:03.799 Do you know Vinyl is making a comeback. 1:32:04.120 --> 1:32:04.640 I have all my. 1:32:04.880 --> 1:32:08.880 Vinyl Okay, I have all my records and I still 1:32:08.960 --> 1:32:17.360 do mixes put out if Yeah, I don't know people. 1:32:18.400 --> 1:32:19.600 Yeah, yeah, I just know. 1:32:19.760 --> 1:32:21.640 I know, like for example, we have Dante's here and 1:32:21.880 --> 1:32:24.320 yeah that's all Vinyl, but yeah that was. 1:32:24.360 --> 1:32:33.280 Are you going to do a set? You gotta do it, 1:32:33.640 --> 1:32:37.920 and if you do it, I'm gonna do one. I'll 1:32:38.320 --> 1:32:41.240 I'll be I guess on it. They've called me to 1:32:41.360 --> 1:32:44.599 do it. I just I should have probably reach out 1:32:44.600 --> 1:32:46.479 to them since I'm here this time, but they did 1:32:46.600 --> 1:32:48.600 reach out to me to get me to do it. 1:32:48.680 --> 1:32:50.400 So so I don't do a lot of vinyl sets 1:32:50.400 --> 1:32:50.600 I was. 1:32:50.720 --> 1:32:52.960 I used to do this thing called Fresh forty fives 1:32:53.240 --> 1:32:56.519 for me and my DJ crew in Dallas would come 1:32:56.560 --> 1:33:00.640 together every once and once one Thursday out of a 1:33:00.760 --> 1:33:03.880 month and we would just play all forty fives And 1:33:04.080 --> 1:33:06.559 it is the best ship ever. And nothing has been 1:33:07.040 --> 1:33:11.280 as rewarding as that feeling of playing vinyl after you 1:33:11.400 --> 1:33:13.880 do these parties and use the technology, which I love. 1:33:14.040 --> 1:33:16.400 You know, I get paid that way, but it's when 1:33:16.720 --> 1:33:18.920 it's when vinyl plays for me. 1:33:19.080 --> 1:33:20.519 It's just different. It's just different. Yeah. 1:33:20.840 --> 1:33:22.640 So the fact that you are a collector and you 1:33:22.720 --> 1:33:26.280 still have all your vinyl, you should be definitely that's 1:33:26.400 --> 1:33:26.600 just me. 1:33:26.880 --> 1:33:29.519 No, Well, Dante's you heard Rich Medina, who's a part 1:33:29.560 --> 1:33:30.759 of Dante's Rich. 1:33:30.680 --> 1:33:31.280 Give me a call. 1:33:31.720 --> 1:33:31.960 J T. 1:33:32.120 --> 1:33:33.000 Donaldson, give me a call. 1:33:33.080 --> 1:33:33.360 Let me know. 1:33:34.920 --> 1:33:37.320 I'm bringing We're gonna we're. 1:33:37.160 --> 1:33:38.400 Gonna get together. 1:33:38.960 --> 1:33:40.400 Bring I'm gonna bring a bag. 1:33:41.160 --> 1:33:44.160 I want my friend and I'm not gonna make out 1:33:44.160 --> 1:33:48.000 of the eye contact with I like my friend. DJ 1:33:48.320 --> 1:33:51.320 E Finn never called him Erican in my life and 1:33:51.320 --> 1:33:53.559 I'm never gonna call him eric and I don't care. 1:33:53.680 --> 1:33:59.719 Well, I actually didn't. I did use. I was using 1:34:00.320 --> 1:34:00.599 with him. 1:34:00.600 --> 1:34:00.840 I did. 1:34:01.080 --> 1:34:02.519 One of my last things that I was doing was 1:34:02.600 --> 1:34:04.960 a tour DJ with him. We did Canada. I remember, 1:34:05.000 --> 1:34:07.560 I did you attractor on that? But that I was like, 1:34:07.600 --> 1:34:10.880 I don't like it. No, you don't like Serado either. No, 1:34:11.200 --> 1:34:14.160 it's just different for me. It's different. He's a vinyl guy. 1:34:14.280 --> 1:34:16.760 But but but let me ask you that this is 1:34:16.840 --> 1:34:17.200 a DJ. 1:34:18.640 --> 1:34:21.600 People like him, all right, he has Drake Champs, he 1:34:21.640 --> 1:34:24.360 has all the other things going on. But what happens 1:34:24.400 --> 1:34:26.720 to a DJ that's like him that says I only 1:34:26.800 --> 1:34:27.519 want to do vinyl. 1:34:28.600 --> 1:34:30.360 There's plenty of places to do vinyl here. 1:34:30.439 --> 1:34:33.080 No, it has made it a research, it's a feeling. 1:34:33.240 --> 1:34:36.200 So when you it's coming back, you said, but I'm out. 1:34:36.560 --> 1:34:41.160 Then when it just happened, then then like when you say, then, 1:34:41.200 --> 1:34:41.599 what's then? 1:34:41.760 --> 1:34:44.639 Like I'm talking about you know before before it came back. 1:34:44.880 --> 1:34:47.519 You know what happened to one of my last gigs. 1:34:47.600 --> 1:34:49.519 I went to Orlando do a gig. Bors was with me. 1:34:49.560 --> 1:34:52.479 I don't know where borses at. I go to the club, 1:34:53.400 --> 1:34:56.240 everybody's on Serado. Then it goes now now I'm going 1:34:56.320 --> 1:34:58.959 to go with my vinyl set and I brought. 1:34:58.960 --> 1:35:02.719 My mixer, and it's a difference for them to switch. 1:35:02.800 --> 1:35:06.880 Everybody looked at me, like you ruin. I get you. 1:35:07.320 --> 1:35:09.760 That's the hardest thing. I don't know. 1:35:09.880 --> 1:35:13.479 I don't, I don't. I like you do not believe 1:35:13.760 --> 1:35:17.800 that mixing vinyl with a regular technique, you know, like 1:35:17.920 --> 1:35:21.960 controllers and hardware whatever goes together. For some reason, I 1:35:22.000 --> 1:35:24.400 feel like, if you're going to do a vinyl situation, 1:35:24.960 --> 1:35:26.200 stick with that vibe. 1:35:26.520 --> 1:35:28.240 If you're gonna do utilize the. 1:35:28.280 --> 1:35:32.160 Technology in any kind of way, do that vibe because 1:35:32.160 --> 1:35:37.559 it is two different sounds, and audience wise, they're probably 1:35:37.640 --> 1:35:39.160 gonna want to either this or that. 1:35:39.560 --> 1:35:40.920 That's just how I feel about it. 1:35:41.320 --> 1:35:44.640 So and no shade too, because like, for example, my 1:35:44.720 --> 1:35:46.479 boy DJ Craze I think is one of the best 1:35:46.520 --> 1:35:49.400 DJs in the world. He utilizes he was dope on 1:35:49.600 --> 1:35:52.280 vinyl and he's even better using the technology. 1:35:52.880 --> 1:35:53.720 And I do both too. 1:35:54.200 --> 1:35:56.920 I just I just feel like I don't know if 1:35:56.920 --> 1:35:59.320 I would want to do at the same time. So 1:35:59.439 --> 1:36:02.800 my daughter's djaying now and I'm me and her going 1:36:02.880 --> 1:36:03.920 to do a mom and me party? 1:36:04.720 --> 1:36:05.280 A mom and me? 1:36:06.280 --> 1:36:06.640 Where is that? 1:36:07.680 --> 1:36:10.320 She she she has a residency and she has a 1:36:10.360 --> 1:36:13.240 few residencies in Dallas and she has her own night. 1:36:13.920 --> 1:36:16.000 What's the mom and mom and me? 1:36:16.200 --> 1:36:18.120 Is like, she's going to bring her mom so I can. 1:36:18.160 --> 1:36:18.800 DJ with her? 1:36:19.000 --> 1:36:20.200 But what what? What date? 1:36:20.560 --> 1:36:25.200 What's the date? But August thirty, August thirty first in Dallas. 1:36:26.479 --> 1:36:29.760 It's called Lady Love. It's a spot she does and 1:36:29.880 --> 1:36:31.559 she rocks parties, right, and I. 1:36:31.640 --> 1:36:33.360 Could make that you would come? 1:36:33.760 --> 1:36:33.960 Yeah? 1:36:34.120 --> 1:36:38.000 Okay, yes, that's that's the idea is for me to DJ. 1:36:38.160 --> 1:36:41.519 But I'm like, do I use Vinyl? Can I use vinyl? 1:36:41.640 --> 1:36:43.880 And she you know she used? She used? 1:36:45.160 --> 1:36:47.840 I asked her if I can use for her party? 1:36:47.920 --> 1:36:48.120 Yeah? 1:36:48.720 --> 1:36:52.040 So it's but I don't know. 1:36:52.280 --> 1:36:55.639 She uses the technology and me using vinyl. 1:36:55.680 --> 1:36:56.800 I'm not sure how that's going to work. 1:36:56.920 --> 1:37:01.240 But have four turntable setups, like two different setups. 1:37:01.360 --> 1:37:05.360 Yeah, but I still remember me doing vinyl and her 1:37:05.479 --> 1:37:10.040 doing c DJs is one thing working. Tomorrow Me and 1:37:10.160 --> 1:37:13.600 her are playing live tomorrow. Yeah yeah, yeah, me and 1:37:13.680 --> 1:37:14.799 my daughter's playing live tomorrow. 1:37:15.439 --> 1:37:23.639 What what day is tomorrow? Tomorrow? This quick time with slide. 1:37:23.920 --> 1:37:29.320 I've been living a rough fla alright, next one, Jazzy 1:37:29.439 --> 1:37:30.880 Joyce or Coco Chanel. 1:37:32.800 --> 1:37:38.080 Take a shot. No, thank you Joyce. Okay, she's the 1:37:38.120 --> 1:37:39.160 blueprint too. Yes. 1:37:40.240 --> 1:37:43.480 Most of the time, when you mentioned. 1:37:44.880 --> 1:37:48.560 The pivotal DJ female DJs, you're going to say Joyce, Spinderella, 1:37:48.760 --> 1:37:54.080 and Coco Chanel, as in, there's so many female DJs 1:37:54.120 --> 1:37:54.720 out there, but. 1:37:56.760 --> 1:38:00.160 That tear Joyce. I met Joyce. 1:38:01.520 --> 1:38:03.880 On one of those earlier tours and she was so 1:38:04.800 --> 1:38:07.720 I didn't know who she was and Jazzy Joyce and 1:38:08.439 --> 1:38:10.000 Eddie f was my boyfriend at the time, and he 1:38:10.120 --> 1:38:12.560 goes and I got jealous because he was talking to 1:38:12.640 --> 1:38:16.680 Joyce and I was like, you know, I was like. 1:38:16.760 --> 1:38:17.120 Who's that. 1:38:17.479 --> 1:38:19.880 Who are you talking to? And you know, I had 1:38:19.880 --> 1:38:22.960 an attitude with him, and he was like, that's fucking 1:38:23.040 --> 1:38:27.559 Jazzy Joyce. And I was like, oh, Ship, I had 1:38:27.600 --> 1:38:30.200 never really met anybody that does what I do and 1:38:30.320 --> 1:38:30.720 it was her. 1:38:31.200 --> 1:38:37.000 That's crazy. Oh yeah, God damn big Jazzy Joyce. Ready 1:38:37.040 --> 1:38:40.680 to drink to bring over absolutely redd Aler or kick 1:38:40.720 --> 1:38:41.679 Capri Ship. 1:38:42.760 --> 1:38:44.640 Come are you doing this? 1:38:45.080 --> 1:38:48.920 Like skin ship for this? Who did this? These guys 1:38:48.960 --> 1:38:51.400 are there? Respect? To both. 1:38:51.760 --> 1:38:53.840 I'm going to take a drink on that because I can't. 1:38:53.880 --> 1:38:56.960 I've been waiting to take a shot. She's getting so old, 1:39:03.560 --> 1:39:07.360 all right, e p M. D Ornaughty by Nature? Oh, 1:39:09.600 --> 1:39:14.080 I'm gonna say naughty by nature? Any stories because trash was. 1:39:14.120 --> 1:39:19.080 Dave Peppah, Yeah, I'm sorry, I made up. 1:39:21.040 --> 1:39:21.920 I've been around them a. 1:39:21.960 --> 1:39:22.880 Lot, I'll say that. 1:39:24.720 --> 1:39:27.840 Okay, Well i've been around that. 1:39:28.000 --> 1:39:31.320 What I'm like, I'm like a half a therapist. So 1:39:31.800 --> 1:39:34.320 when she said that, she's like around and you can 1:39:34.439 --> 1:39:37.920 just see her thoughts. You can just see it. 1:39:38.080 --> 1:39:41.320 You didn't see that. She was just thinking about everything. 1:39:43.680 --> 1:39:46.360 I'm looking at her, like, no more drinks over here, 1:39:47.040 --> 1:39:51.320 I'm gonna I'm picking somebody, don't worry, somebody getting paid. 1:39:51.560 --> 1:39:54.080 I'm looking at you and you're thinking about like you 1:39:54.280 --> 1:39:57.800 just there's tons and tons of stories and thoughts, trust me, 1:39:58.560 --> 1:40:03.679 Peppa and tre Or just period, just period, period, just period. 1:40:04.400 --> 1:40:07.040 Do you I'm sorry? 1:40:07.160 --> 1:40:11.200 I know Thomas my brother dj My brother is DJing 1:40:11.280 --> 1:40:15.599 for trench right now. Yes, so tretches out on the road, 1:40:15.720 --> 1:40:20.160 doing you know anything? Yeah? 1:40:22.240 --> 1:40:25.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I went I went to the that's. 1:40:25.320 --> 1:40:26.680 My brother DJing behind truck. 1:40:27.360 --> 1:40:28.160 Yeah. I went to the. 1:40:31.040 --> 1:40:36.640 DJ boone shoutout, dj J, do. 1:40:36.720 --> 1:40:38.800 We take a shot for d J boy. I feel 1:40:38.800 --> 1:40:40.600 like I feel like that it's warrant and it's his 1:40:40.680 --> 1:40:47.920 birthday to I got you, I gotta, I. 1:40:47.960 --> 1:40:54.800 Gotta, I gotta, I gotta right analog or digital, which 1:40:54.800 --> 1:40:57.960 is kind of like we're already just where my heart is, 1:40:59.280 --> 1:40:59.559 all right? 1:40:59.640 --> 1:41:04.719 Cool or DJ Hollywood, Oh wow, Well. 1:41:05.000 --> 1:41:08.160 Give it up for her because hip hop is here 1:41:08.240 --> 1:41:10.360 because of him. So I'm gonna say her. 1:41:10.560 --> 1:41:11.800 So I don't have to cheat, I don't have to drink, 1:41:12.840 --> 1:41:16.280 and we on the fifty first anniversary exactly. 1:41:16.760 --> 1:41:20.639 No, it's crazy, all right. The source of Double Legs. 1:41:20.520 --> 1:41:24.640 L I'm gonna say the source because I was at 1:41:24.680 --> 1:41:27.200 that show when when Snoop was like New. 1:41:27.160 --> 1:41:30.599 York ain't got no. I was there. That's a moment. 1:41:30.720 --> 1:41:31.960 That was a huge moment there. 1:41:32.200 --> 1:41:34.599 I saw. I saw when Sugar was on that stage, 1:41:34.760 --> 1:41:37.920 like you know, I was in that room. Oh my god, 1:41:38.080 --> 1:41:40.280 it was crazy. We was like this something. 1:41:40.320 --> 1:41:43.080 Pepper and Me was like this, they're gonna go It's 1:41:43.080 --> 1:41:45.240 gonna go down. It's gonna go down. 1:41:45.520 --> 1:41:48.000 Like it was rough, didn't feel like for sure was 1:41:48.360 --> 1:41:49.760 forwards itself was rough. 1:41:49.840 --> 1:41:51.519 Oh yeah, back then I met, but it was it 1:41:51.640 --> 1:41:55.280 was it was entertaining, but it was rough, but it 1:41:55.360 --> 1:41:56.760 was so important at that time. 1:41:56.880 --> 1:41:59.200 It was but you saw it when the beefs were happening, 1:41:59.360 --> 1:42:01.000 and you just knew something's going to go down. 1:42:01.040 --> 1:42:02.360 It's the first time people are seeing each other. 1:42:02.439 --> 1:42:04.240 There was no social media, so this is where they're 1:42:04.280 --> 1:42:07.120 going to see each other at I just to try. Yeah, 1:42:08.840 --> 1:42:11.720 he tries to get me heroin all the time. No, 1:42:11.880 --> 1:42:17.559 thank you, grand Master Flash or Grand Master Theodore. 1:42:18.240 --> 1:42:20.479 Oh wow, respect to both of them. 1:42:22.560 --> 1:42:23.400 Yo, yo, that's good. 1:42:23.600 --> 1:42:27.360 Is a drink ship, right, drink chack. 1:42:30.280 --> 1:42:32.679 Hm and drink champs, Just so you know what it means. 1:42:32.760 --> 1:42:34.760 It's not how bad you get tonight. It's how you 1:42:34.800 --> 1:42:37.519 wake up in the morning. If you can function the 1:42:37.600 --> 1:42:41.040 next day, that's the drink champ. You can pass out 1:42:41.080 --> 1:42:42.240 right now, but as long as you wake up in 1:42:42.280 --> 1:42:42.920 the morning and work. 1:42:42.960 --> 1:42:44.240 By the way, I just want to throw this out 1:42:44.240 --> 1:42:48.160 there because you know, my flight was delayed, so I'm 1:42:48.160 --> 1:42:52.360 looking at him like, where'd you want to privates? 1:42:52.479 --> 1:42:56.800 Just delayed? I was doing somebody else's private I'm not there. 1:42:56.960 --> 1:43:03.360 I'm not ship. So they said, said Spina has something 1:43:03.439 --> 1:43:09.559 to do after this. That yeah, because it's your drink order. 1:43:09.640 --> 1:43:13.280 He's obsessed with your drink list. He's did you have 1:43:13.360 --> 1:43:15.920 something to do for the best of them? Now, I'm like, 1:43:16.120 --> 1:43:19.439 I'm like, wait a minute, she ordered going after this, 1:43:19.760 --> 1:43:23.000 So he said exactly what he said. I don't think 1:43:23.040 --> 1:43:25.800 you go anywhere after that whiskey and the killer. I 1:43:25.920 --> 1:43:30.080 was like, I put those all four combinations together. I'm 1:43:30.120 --> 1:43:32.920 like that that you gotta give. You want to you 1:43:32.920 --> 1:43:33.599 want to pop. 1:43:33.439 --> 1:43:37.280 Ace, Not really, I can take one with me. 1:43:37.560 --> 1:43:39.360 No, of course you can't. You can take as much 1:43:39.360 --> 1:43:41.719 as you want, because you know why you want something. 1:43:45.640 --> 1:43:46.160 You can't. 1:43:46.560 --> 1:43:51.080 You know, He's like, wink because because our show is 1:43:51.160 --> 1:43:53.559 your show. I just want you to know that one 1:43:53.600 --> 1:43:58.840 main percent. If you want to promote pink Lemon seals. 1:44:00.920 --> 1:44:03.200 Want to say toenails this time now, we're just trying 1:44:03.200 --> 1:44:06.000 to change it. I mean, is this normal? 1:44:06.080 --> 1:44:06.240 Though? 1:44:06.400 --> 1:44:09.479 This is this is normal? We love the drinks or 1:44:09.560 --> 1:44:15.519 the talking, just the drinks is normal. Just say you something. 1:44:16.080 --> 1:44:19.760 The love is not okay, this love that we have 1:44:19.920 --> 1:44:23.439 for you, we are so excited. We were so excited 1:44:24.600 --> 1:44:29.840 that you accepted to come to us and tell your 1:44:29.880 --> 1:44:33.920 story that we are about to say a word that 1:44:33.960 --> 1:44:39.080 I don't know what it means. Say manically. We might 1:44:39.160 --> 1:44:41.240 have to make a drink chance for book. 1:44:47.160 --> 1:44:51.639 Let's use it. Yes, yes are you? Yes? Next one 1:44:52.520 --> 1:44:57.000 Buck diamond D shout out the book wild. 1:44:56.960 --> 1:44:59.519 Or diamond D okay, taking into place Diamondy. I just 1:44:59.640 --> 1:45:03.280 actually he reached out to diamond D because he did this. 1:45:03.880 --> 1:45:05.880 I feel like he did this compilation that I was 1:45:05.960 --> 1:45:08.680 looking for. Yeah, he put out an album. He put 1:45:08.720 --> 1:45:11.080 out some stuff, right yeah, and I've been looking for 1:45:11.200 --> 1:45:12.400 it and I found out it was him, and I 1:45:12.439 --> 1:45:14.160 reached out to him. So I'm gonna say, diamond. 1:45:13.960 --> 1:45:17.480 D okay, this is very easy. Podcast or radio. 1:45:18.760 --> 1:45:20.320 Today is National Radio Day? 1:45:20.439 --> 1:45:21.280 Is it today? 1:45:21.400 --> 1:45:22.559 Was it yesterday? 1:45:23.040 --> 1:45:26.519 You guys are around here? No word? Podcast Radio Day. 1:45:27.240 --> 1:45:29.559 I used to do radio. I used to do radio. 1:45:30.560 --> 1:45:33.400 I was on for a while. Yeah, I was on. 1:45:33.720 --> 1:45:37.240 I had my own syndicated radio show back in two 1:45:37.320 --> 1:45:41.479 thousand and six, and it was called The back Spin 1:45:42.600 --> 1:45:44.960 Spin Cycle Radio, and then I then I changed it 1:45:45.000 --> 1:45:45.599 to the back Spin. 1:45:45.760 --> 1:45:48.280 So I'm gonna say radio. 1:45:48.320 --> 1:45:52.280 Okay, not mad at that. A tribe called quest or 1:45:52.320 --> 1:45:55.679 Day call Quest and I loved saw ship. 1:45:55.720 --> 1:45:56.480 I'm drinking. 1:45:58.200 --> 1:45:58.720 Wait for us. 1:45:58.800 --> 1:46:06.040 I'm sorry, it's not tasting good anymore. It's getting harsher, 1:46:06.240 --> 1:46:09.240 it's getting harsher. Yeah, we're close, we're close. 1:46:10.320 --> 1:46:15.920 I see the end. Help Little Kim or REMI ma, oh. 1:46:15.840 --> 1:46:21.040 Wow, this is hard Jesus. I'm gonna say little Kim 1:46:21.200 --> 1:46:25.120 because I don't know. Little Kim did something for me 1:46:26.000 --> 1:46:30.760 with females and hip hop way back when. I just 1:46:30.840 --> 1:46:33.720 feel like she just kind of took that ship like 1:46:33.880 --> 1:46:37.040 let me just and I was like, oh she she Wow, 1:46:37.240 --> 1:46:39.880 she's crazy, but I like her, you know, so Yeah, 1:46:40.160 --> 1:46:40.839 Little Kim. 1:46:42.320 --> 1:46:45.599 N w A or public enemy mm hmm. 1:46:48.200 --> 1:46:49.960 N w A or public public enemy. 1:46:51.320 --> 1:47:01.200 All right. Rhapsody or Bahamada ship really pinning two different generations. 1:47:01.240 --> 1:47:04.639 It's like it's like the seed of Bahamadia is rhaps 1:47:09.000 --> 1:47:14.200 respect respect to Bahamaedia, one of like like to me, 1:47:14.400 --> 1:47:18.000 she's one of like those mcs that's like unsung, and 1:47:19.640 --> 1:47:24.400 Rhapsody to me is unsung today in a way that 1:47:24.680 --> 1:47:26.120 she's kind of creeping in there. 1:47:26.360 --> 1:47:28.120 Her new stuff is amazing. 1:47:27.880 --> 1:47:30.920 Amazing, amazing. 1:47:32.800 --> 1:47:35.240 I had my own Rhapsody for for a long time, 1:47:36.200 --> 1:47:40.080 and I remember I was like, like I would think 1:47:40.160 --> 1:47:44.240 she's probably she should be out on top of the 1:47:44.320 --> 1:47:47.840 situation more than she is. But maybe it's because of 1:47:47.960 --> 1:47:51.120 what people are demanding, you know, out there right now. 1:47:52.880 --> 1:47:54.840 But I'm going to say, rhapsody. 1:47:56.840 --> 1:47:59.760 How about you drink? You can take a drink of. 1:47:59.760 --> 1:48:02.679 You would take a drink, it's right there. 1:48:03.840 --> 1:48:10.240 Eric abad or at Leasta keys Ship. Eric, we were 1:48:10.240 --> 1:48:14.680 a small instance. I didn't. That would have been a 1:48:14.680 --> 1:48:16.439 little weird if you would be like, yeah, that's pretty good. 1:48:16.920 --> 1:48:17.640 I did not. 1:48:19.240 --> 1:48:23.200 I did not, did you. We try to get a 1:48:23.240 --> 1:48:24.160 hold of it. We get. 1:48:26.080 --> 1:48:26.200 Right. 1:48:26.560 --> 1:48:28.800 We wanted to have it on drinks for everybody to smell. 1:48:30.680 --> 1:48:32.560 I even told my wife to order it. I was like, 1:48:33.320 --> 1:48:36.080 but you got to get it. Before she looked at 1:48:36.120 --> 1:48:37.840 what it was called. She was like, you are we 1:48:38.000 --> 1:48:39.360 ordering Eric pussy? 1:48:40.880 --> 1:48:41.559 The real thing? 1:48:42.000 --> 1:48:45.920 We just wore black colture. Baby, I'm sorry I went 1:48:45.960 --> 1:48:46.280 too far. 1:48:47.160 --> 1:48:49.160 Go ahead, and that is the last one. Give her 1:48:49.680 --> 1:48:53.759 the last the last one? All right, there's one more, Yeah, okay, 1:48:54.360 --> 1:48:56.280 loyalty or respect. 1:48:57.720 --> 1:48:58.080 Today? 1:48:58.439 --> 1:48:58.960 Respect? 1:48:59.880 --> 1:49:02.960 I used to do the loyalty thing. Tell us why. 1:49:04.240 --> 1:49:05.360 Loyalty will get you. 1:49:07.080 --> 1:49:07.600 Fucked up. 1:49:08.880 --> 1:49:10.800 It will get you fucked up, and it's good to 1:49:10.880 --> 1:49:12.840 be that. Never give up who you are if you're 1:49:12.840 --> 1:49:16.720 a loyal type or whatever. But remember respect is more 1:49:16.760 --> 1:49:21.519 important because you'll be respecting yourself. When you command respect, 1:49:21.600 --> 1:49:25.320 you're respecting yourself so you can be loyal and people 1:49:25.360 --> 1:49:29.240 could just walk all over that and you'll be hurting 1:49:29.280 --> 1:49:33.559 the end. But respect, it's like you command that. I'm 1:49:33.600 --> 1:49:35.360 giving it. I'm going to receive that. 1:49:37.240 --> 1:49:37.599 Respect. 1:49:37.760 --> 1:49:38.599 I'm picking respect. 1:49:38.880 --> 1:49:41.880 I still want to take a shot. I'm sorry. I 1:49:44.840 --> 1:49:49.560 was supposed to say a shot, but I really. 1:49:51.800 --> 1:49:52.519 And we're done with that. 1:49:53.439 --> 1:49:56.120 Yeah, really, you know, you know what I really wanted. 1:49:56.920 --> 1:49:59.639 I really want you to know how much hip hop 1:49:59.720 --> 1:50:05.360 love it. Because the thing is like I've been studying 1:50:05.400 --> 1:50:08.640 you for studying, studying since you went to Left Rack. 1:50:08.680 --> 1:50:12.120 Remember he's been studying since then. You know what, You're right, 1:50:12.280 --> 1:50:16.720 You're very true. And one of the reasons why me 1:50:16.800 --> 1:50:21.360 and EF and started it is because started this. It's 1:50:21.360 --> 1:50:24.960 like we want to pay respect to our legends, and sometimes, 1:50:25.280 --> 1:50:30.800 very seldomly we realize our legends don't don't understand how 1:50:30.880 --> 1:50:31.599 important they are. 1:50:32.000 --> 1:50:38.280 Their impact their legacy, they impact their legacy with you, 1:50:38.680 --> 1:50:43.400 I'm in between. Do you know how important you are 1:50:43.720 --> 1:50:48.160 to people like us people? Do you understand today? I 1:50:48.280 --> 1:50:49.080 do okay. 1:50:49.439 --> 1:50:51.559 You know, I was in my own way, I think, 1:50:53.320 --> 1:50:58.840 dealing with my own self worth, and I kind of 1:50:58.920 --> 1:51:02.000 got to the point where I'm like, I deserve to 1:51:02.160 --> 1:51:05.080 be you know, the love I give it, so I 1:51:05.160 --> 1:51:07.360 deserve it back. But my husband tells me that all 1:51:07.400 --> 1:51:10.120 the time. You know, do you understand you know how 1:51:10.439 --> 1:51:14.360 major you you are. I'm just DEDI that, you know, 1:51:14.600 --> 1:51:18.200 right to my family, to my loved ones, and that's 1:51:18.360 --> 1:51:20.560 always first to me. And when I step out, I 1:51:20.640 --> 1:51:22.880 put the hat, the spin hat on the gear or whatever. 1:51:23.160 --> 1:51:27.160 But I get it now, I get what I get it. 1:51:27.439 --> 1:51:27.880 I get it. 1:51:31.439 --> 1:51:36.519 You're really Poli. But you're really like. 1:51:41.160 --> 1:51:43.519 I said it earlier, and I said it like from 1:51:43.680 --> 1:51:46.680 like a guy standpoint, and I was like, you know, 1:51:46.880 --> 1:51:50.120 guys had you on that day. But now let's think 1:51:50.120 --> 1:51:53.920 about the girls, especially a girl DJ coming up. 1:51:58.160 --> 1:51:58.880 You're in there. 1:51:58.920 --> 1:52:02.400 It's huge, So you're in their bathroom for real, Like 1:52:02.479 --> 1:52:03.640 I was playing around early in. 1:52:03.640 --> 1:52:04.920 The top of the bathroom though. 1:52:09.160 --> 1:52:09.360 There. 1:52:09.800 --> 1:52:16.760 Yeah, you're in the room. They're in their room. That 1:52:16.960 --> 1:52:22.200 ship is so like to me, it's so dope because. 1:52:24.280 --> 1:52:29.160 You know, obviously we watched Wakanda, right, and I know 1:52:30.120 --> 1:52:32.960 everyone's probably looking at me like what this is bringing Waconda? 1:52:33.200 --> 1:52:38.600 But Wakanda is not fake. Waconda is based on real reality. 1:52:39.880 --> 1:52:40.360 Mm hmmm. 1:52:41.520 --> 1:52:47.320 And if we was the base Wakanda on a real 1:52:47.439 --> 1:52:49.439 life place, who would be the DJ? 1:52:51.400 --> 1:52:56.240 Me? I'll be up in there? You and Jazzy motherfucking Jazzy. Yes, yeah, 1:53:00.080 --> 1:53:00.679 that's huge. 1:53:01.160 --> 1:53:02.320 He's one of my favorites. 1:53:02.400 --> 1:53:03.760 But yeah, they don't kill that. I feel like I 1:53:03.880 --> 1:53:07.360 killed that. I felt like I was like that was hard. Yeah, yeah, 1:53:07.760 --> 1:53:10.920 no no, but but funk that. I'm playing around. But 1:53:11.000 --> 1:53:13.960 I'm not playing around. That's real. 1:53:15.560 --> 1:53:18.519 Like all the guests that we have, if I was 1:53:18.600 --> 1:53:24.360 to tell them your last party of your life, who 1:53:24.400 --> 1:53:25.200 would be the DJ? 1:53:25.960 --> 1:53:26.840 Mm hmm, I. 1:53:26.960 --> 1:53:28.920 Guarantee you and if you want me to do it, 1:53:29.080 --> 1:53:33.639 I will prove it to you. They would say spend 1:53:33.680 --> 1:53:34.639 the Wether or Jesse. 1:53:35.080 --> 1:53:40.920 Really, I don't hear it like that. I'm sorry, I don't. 1:53:41.000 --> 1:53:45.479 I don't let mean brush I appreciate that. That's crazy? 1:53:45.600 --> 1:53:47.120 Are you crazy? You don't know that? 1:53:47.320 --> 1:53:47.920 I don't know that? 1:53:48.120 --> 1:53:48.439 Do I know? 1:53:49.080 --> 1:53:53.760 I love our humble legends? You you you mean saying that. 1:53:56.120 --> 1:53:56.439 That is. 1:53:59.080 --> 1:54:01.280 That's magical? Don't give a what are you drinking and 1:54:01.320 --> 1:54:02.080 get one another one. 1:54:02.360 --> 1:54:04.280 I look up to Jazz Jeff. When you talk about 1:54:04.360 --> 1:54:06.479 when you pay me when I am in the same 1:54:08.439 --> 1:54:11.400 I guess on that line with the great people that 1:54:11.520 --> 1:54:13.840 I look up to, it's wild to me. So as 1:54:13.920 --> 1:54:16.400 wild as it you think it is, trust me, I'll 1:54:16.400 --> 1:54:16.920 be like, but. 1:54:16.960 --> 1:54:19.400 It's wild that you don't see yourself there. Let me 1:54:19.520 --> 1:54:26.600 just say something to you. That's what everyone tests about you. 1:54:27.280 --> 1:54:34.320 M you are and by the way, I want to 1:54:34.760 --> 1:54:38.480 because I don't want to label it female. Mm hmmm. 1:54:39.080 --> 1:54:42.600 Because we labeled female, it kind of brings it down, 1:54:42.640 --> 1:54:47.000 it minimizes it, right you and thank you for that. 1:54:47.880 --> 1:54:49.600 One of the ellist DJs. 1:54:49.800 --> 1:54:57.200 Ever And now who did I say, Jazz Jeff, that's crazy, 1:54:57.320 --> 1:54:58.800 but you know who texts me just now. 1:55:00.680 --> 1:55:06.080 In my mind damn messag Jet mm hmm and damn 1:55:06.120 --> 1:55:09.760 Master j just told me. No, it's not Jasey j 1:55:10.200 --> 1:55:18.000 It's me. I'm getting deep you get indeed, indeed. 1:55:18.080 --> 1:55:19.240 Indeed, but that's how you see it. 1:55:19.320 --> 1:55:21.440 It's like it's because. 1:55:24.400 --> 1:55:27.080 You know, it took me to get out of the 1:55:27.240 --> 1:55:31.360 kind of like the rap game to understand that I was. 1:55:31.880 --> 1:55:36.680 I wasn't ship without the DJ. I wasn't nothing to 1:55:36.800 --> 1:55:43.320 this day, my DJ butch Rock, I don't want to. 1:55:45.200 --> 1:55:45.680 Fat Joe. 1:55:46.040 --> 1:55:49.160 I just went to Bad Joe's concert. I didn't even 1:55:49.160 --> 1:55:50.360 know it was a concert. I thought it was a 1:55:50.440 --> 1:55:53.440 fucking Keys to the City. And then I performed, and 1:55:53.560 --> 1:55:56.200 my DJ literally called me. It was like, you performed 1:55:56.280 --> 1:55:56.680 without me? 1:55:56.800 --> 1:55:57.000 God? 1:55:58.080 --> 1:56:00.360 Right, how you go do that? 1:56:00.640 --> 1:56:00.800 Right? 1:56:02.480 --> 1:56:06.280 But it makes me just reiterate what happens, and the 1:56:06.440 --> 1:56:10.120 DJ is really the most important part of hip hop. 1:56:10.560 --> 1:56:13.200 To me, now that I can see it. No, it 1:56:13.360 --> 1:56:15.400 is now that I could get out of it and 1:56:15.680 --> 1:56:17.640 watch it and appreciate it. 1:56:19.240 --> 1:56:23.440 Yeah, it's amazing to be paired with those greats. It's 1:56:23.520 --> 1:56:26.480 wild to me because I still remember that day that 1:56:26.600 --> 1:56:31.280 I did not drop the song. I just all of 1:56:31.320 --> 1:56:34.080 that plays in my head still in my life, and 1:56:35.520 --> 1:56:37.800 when I'm like talking with Jeff. 1:56:38.120 --> 1:56:40.000 And I'll be like, damn, that's the fucking jazzy Jeff. 1:56:41.440 --> 1:56:42.160 It's wild to me. 1:56:42.280 --> 1:56:46.400 You look at Jesse, Jeff. Do you know how Jesse 1:56:46.520 --> 1:56:49.400 Jeff probably looks as you. I don't know that. 1:56:50.600 --> 1:56:55.160 I don't know that, but you know, I remember saying, 1:56:55.240 --> 1:56:57.560 Jeff on the side watching me play, and. 1:56:57.640 --> 1:57:00.640 I was like, oh my god, mother, Jeff's to yourself. 1:57:00.720 --> 1:57:03.040 This is just me. 1:57:03.600 --> 1:57:05.880 He stood there and he was watching me play. This 1:57:05.960 --> 1:57:08.600 is the wildss feel. Speak somebody that you look up to, 1:57:09.760 --> 1:57:13.560 checking you out to see how you I said, let 1:57:13.600 --> 1:57:14.720 me get my ship together. 1:57:16.840 --> 1:57:17.120 That's it. 1:57:17.320 --> 1:57:21.160 Yeah, but it is a wild feeling. But I guess 1:57:21.200 --> 1:57:21.520 that's my. 1:57:23.160 --> 1:57:23.680 Humility. 1:57:24.120 --> 1:57:27.240 That's just who I am. You know, it's who I am. 1:57:27.440 --> 1:57:32.600 So so let me ask you a question. We have 1:57:32.720 --> 1:57:39.000 never asked this question, and I've never asked this this way. So, Pepper, 1:57:39.120 --> 1:57:39.880 where were they at. 1:57:42.120 --> 1:57:44.120 Listen to this interview? What would you say to them? 1:57:46.320 --> 1:57:46.720 Hm hmm. 1:57:48.240 --> 1:57:51.280 Well I would say, let's give the people what they want. 1:57:52.720 --> 1:57:56.720 And I also would say we have work to do internally, 1:57:58.160 --> 1:58:03.040 and if that doors open, I'm open to that is 1:58:03.120 --> 1:58:07.240 to do in the work internally. So I I you know, 1:58:07.800 --> 1:58:10.440 I don't want to abandon our legacy. I just mentally 1:58:11.240 --> 1:58:13.480 have to do what needs to be done for myself 1:58:14.680 --> 1:58:17.200 and and and there has to be a mutual respect. 1:58:18.320 --> 1:58:20.960 And that's it. That's all needs to be. 1:58:21.040 --> 1:58:25.760 So I love this, like you know, she never what 1:58:25.880 --> 1:58:31.600 does Michelle Obama say? They go to look Michelle Obama, you're. 1:58:31.760 --> 1:58:35.800 Like she said, when they go low we go high. 1:58:35.920 --> 1:58:40.560 That's like, yeah, I respect Michelle Obama because she I mean, 1:58:40.640 --> 1:58:44.720 they have dogged her to the ground and she still 1:58:45.080 --> 1:58:47.040 she will say with her piece and say what she 1:58:47.160 --> 1:58:52.040 has to say with strength. So yeah, I'm I'm a 1:58:52.160 --> 1:58:56.839 part of that side that feels like, you know, let's. 1:58:56.760 --> 1:59:00.760 Make it right. And what do you because you know 1:59:01.040 --> 1:59:05.040 we're at the internet the interview, But what do you 1:59:05.120 --> 1:59:06.600 think it is to make it right? 1:59:08.040 --> 1:59:10.880 I said it mutual respect. When you have respect for somebody, 1:59:10.920 --> 1:59:14.640 you listen for what they with their situation is. You 1:59:14.800 --> 1:59:20.280 understand what their situation. You don't talk, you listen, and 1:59:20.400 --> 1:59:23.400 it goes. It's it's mutual as both sides have to 1:59:23.480 --> 1:59:27.600 do that. So it's almost like a read what's the 1:59:27.680 --> 1:59:36.400 word when you redo something? Read reinvent, reinvent a reinvention, 1:59:37.720 --> 1:59:40.000 and it has to be a reinvention because. 1:59:39.680 --> 1:59:43.560 All right, before we get about it, right, you came 1:59:43.640 --> 1:59:45.320 to them and you said, yo, just this and this 1:59:45.600 --> 1:59:48.400 right whatever it was. I don't want to get into 1:59:48.480 --> 1:59:54.480 particulars because that's your business. And they you felt like 1:59:54.560 --> 1:59:55.400 they didn't comply. 1:59:58.960 --> 2:00:01.520 I feel like they don't see what I'm saying, ok. 2:00:03.600 --> 2:00:06.240 And and and in order for that to happen. 2:00:06.360 --> 2:00:12.920 You have to have a third party explain, mediator, a mediator, therapists, 2:00:13.040 --> 2:00:17.320 something to that that helps to sort what the needs 2:00:17.360 --> 2:00:23.960 are because we're not grasping what They're not grasping what 2:00:24.000 --> 2:00:26.600 I'm saying. I'm grasping what they're saying, but they're not 2:00:26.680 --> 2:00:27.640 grasping what I'm saying. 2:00:27.880 --> 2:00:30.200 But Kevin, canna stop because one second and you said 2:00:30.280 --> 2:00:35.960 earlier you was like you expect Pepper right, And I've 2:00:36.040 --> 2:00:41.520 went I searched every interview and Peppa also addressed you right. 2:00:41.760 --> 2:00:45.840 She said, Spinora is not wrong, like she's not wrong, 2:00:46.880 --> 2:00:51.960 but she she feels like your discrepancy is with the 2:00:52.120 --> 2:00:54.440 label and not sor. 2:00:56.720 --> 2:00:59.520 Herbie's not there anymore. The labels aren't there anymore. 2:00:59.600 --> 2:01:02.760 But I'm still here and the business has to be 2:01:02.880 --> 2:01:06.440 dealt with with who's involved at this point and who's 2:01:06.520 --> 2:01:11.640 involved YouTube and me. There's no Herbie, there's no label. 2:01:12.040 --> 2:01:15.120 But at this point, the three of us are here 2:01:15.560 --> 2:01:18.080 and guess what I'm not getting what I should get 2:01:18.160 --> 2:01:20.280 out of it? Or I didn't I'm not getting what's 2:01:20.760 --> 2:01:20.960 you know? 2:01:21.200 --> 2:01:22.440 Do me right? 2:01:22.640 --> 2:01:24.720 So if I was one. 2:01:24.640 --> 2:01:27.160 Of them, I would go, let's get her what she 2:01:27.360 --> 2:01:30.120 needs it's not going to come out of my pocket, 2:01:30.560 --> 2:01:31.600 but I'm going to get her. 2:01:32.040 --> 2:01:33.480 Let's get her to where what she needs. 2:01:33.560 --> 2:01:36.680 What they what I felt happened was they shut down 2:01:36.760 --> 2:01:40.640 because it was like, you're coming at me. It was 2:01:40.760 --> 2:01:43.360 defensive and it was like, no, I'm coming at whoever, 2:01:44.000 --> 2:01:48.000 because y'all are salt and pepper. I need I need 2:01:48.080 --> 2:01:51.000 somebody to address what I've done and I haven't gotten 2:01:51.040 --> 2:01:55.040 paid for. I need somebody to address my contribution not 2:01:55.200 --> 2:01:59.440 getting handled. And guess what we did it in the end, 2:02:00.080 --> 2:02:04.280 it got handled because I said something, if you closed 2:02:04.360 --> 2:02:08.560 mouths don't get set. So you know, I'm not saying 2:02:09.560 --> 2:02:12.000 they're fully responsible for everything with me. 2:02:14.000 --> 2:02:16.520 It's herbie right there. I'm saying. 2:02:17.440 --> 2:02:20.040 I'm saying I didn't get what I'm supposed to get 2:02:20.080 --> 2:02:22.600 out of this. And at the end of the day, 2:02:22.840 --> 2:02:27.840 we y'all need to address it because I'm still here working, 2:02:28.320 --> 2:02:30.960 I'm still here providing, I'm still here contributing. 2:02:31.680 --> 2:02:33.800 And then it just got really nasty and ugly and 2:02:33.960 --> 2:02:36.880 we don't have to go over that. But at the 2:02:37.000 --> 2:02:38.040 end of the day, we are. 2:02:40.320 --> 2:02:43.720 The hearts are open. I just feel like, you know, 2:02:44.840 --> 2:02:46.440 if the door is going to be opened. It has 2:02:46.480 --> 2:02:48.680 to be a respect for each party involved. 2:02:49.800 --> 2:02:53.760 So right now, God comes down, God comes to spend 2:02:53.800 --> 2:02:56.560 the bell and says, yeah, I want you to make 2:02:56.720 --> 2:02:58.280 one last record. 2:02:59.600 --> 2:03:04.920 To shave humanity. Who are you calling to be the 2:03:05.040 --> 2:03:07.320 producer and the artist? 2:03:08.280 --> 2:03:09.760 Oh ship, that's a good one. 2:03:09.920 --> 2:03:12.720 But yeah, but this is your humanity. 2:03:13.200 --> 2:03:15.160 I mean, you don't really got to be cool. 2:03:15.240 --> 2:03:17.080 I mean that's big, that's big. 2:03:17.480 --> 2:03:19.520 You can still you know. Who would I call? 2:03:23.720 --> 2:03:32.880 Well, I mean call on my favorites, Yeah, favorites, Gosh, Jeff, 2:03:33.000 --> 2:03:36.880 I like Jeff, I like Pete Rock, I like I mean, 2:03:37.600 --> 2:03:40.400 I don't know about saving humanity, but I know about 2:03:40.720 --> 2:03:41.560 the the. 2:03:43.160 --> 2:03:44.000 The vibe I like. 2:03:45.520 --> 2:03:46.600 To get, you know what I'm saying. 2:03:46.840 --> 2:03:50.200 So I would have to call on my folks. 2:03:50.240 --> 2:03:51.760 I don't know, I don't know. 2:03:55.120 --> 2:03:59.720 Mc wise, who you picking? This is me, right, yes, 2:03:59.800 --> 2:04:00.520 this this is me. 2:04:00.760 --> 2:04:06.480 God came to you, okay, he he and Maui. He 2:04:06.640 --> 2:04:11.040 haven't had a haircut in seventeen years. God, Yeah, God, God, 2:04:11.240 --> 2:04:12.040 God's a hippie. 2:04:12.240 --> 2:04:17.640 God is God is a He's in Maui. He's just 2:04:17.760 --> 2:04:23.320 a foul thing. Ye, save the life, save a life. 2:04:23.360 --> 2:04:28.120 He's drinking. Yeah, that's a hard one, dude, I don't know. 2:04:28.320 --> 2:04:28.600 I would. 2:04:29.320 --> 2:04:32.440 I would pick myself. To be honest, I would pick 2:04:32.520 --> 2:04:35.600 I would. I would pick myself on the on the vocals, 2:04:36.400 --> 2:04:37.160 on everything. 2:04:37.440 --> 2:04:41.720 God damn, I mean I picked my lyrics. 2:04:42.000 --> 2:04:43.560 I have a lot of friends that I can call on. 2:04:44.560 --> 2:04:47.000 Oh ship, sorry, oh ship. 2:04:47.360 --> 2:04:48.280 You got give me a. 2:04:50.720 --> 2:04:50.960 Drink? 2:04:51.600 --> 2:04:54.240 K I'm Air Jordans right now. He's so deep. 2:04:54.400 --> 2:05:00.520 Yes, no, but because you know why, I'm really wants 2:05:00.560 --> 2:05:04.360 you to understand how important you are to us, like 2:05:04.480 --> 2:05:07.440 how important you are to everyone in this room. When 2:05:07.600 --> 2:05:11.280 we knew that we had spend the other book, everybody 2:05:11.840 --> 2:05:12.640 became early. 2:05:15.080 --> 2:05:15.440 Is that so. 2:05:18.040 --> 2:05:21.080 That's crazy except your flight was late. 2:05:22.320 --> 2:05:25.520 That's my flight that wasn't And by the way, I 2:05:25.600 --> 2:05:31.760 went and took a shower, came change, he came to shovel. Yes, 2:05:32.000 --> 2:05:38.800 because because it's not that I want to give your flowers, 2:05:40.040 --> 2:05:41.959 it's you deserve your flowers. 2:05:43.000 --> 2:05:44.400 And thank you. 2:05:46.800 --> 2:05:53.520 You're for female, for female DJs, for female DJs, DJs 2:05:53.640 --> 2:05:54.480 for humans. 2:05:56.360 --> 2:05:58.240 I want to let me go over with me for 2:05:58.400 --> 2:06:01.000 human beings, the humanity. 2:06:01.400 --> 2:06:03.640 What you have done and what you have brung to 2:06:03.760 --> 2:06:09.360 the game will never never, ever, ever, ever, ever ever 2:06:09.520 --> 2:06:10.760 be compromised. 2:06:11.040 --> 2:06:16.880 Or erased or ras. We love you. We want you 2:06:17.000 --> 2:06:18.600 to know that we love you. We want you to 2:06:18.760 --> 2:06:28.440 know how much we cherish you because you're a legacy, 2:06:30.360 --> 2:06:35.160 real real legacy spend. Thank you so much man for 2:06:35.320 --> 2:06:37.520 coming to us and. 2:06:37.640 --> 2:06:40.400 Letting us give you your flowers, because your flowers as 2:06:40.440 --> 2:06:48.160 well deserve but by the way, it's deserved, like you're 2:06:48.240 --> 2:06:48.760 really like. 2:06:50.240 --> 2:06:54.080 A leg legend. And thank you for coming to fucking 2:06:54.200 --> 2:07:02.800 drink I said, I said, I tell, I said, babe, 2:07:02.840 --> 2:07:11.040 what they want with me on drink Champs this is 2:07:11.080 --> 2:07:11.720 more than deserve. 2:07:11.840 --> 2:07:13.840 So let me just ask you if you could, if 2:07:13.880 --> 2:07:18.440 you can fix anything in hip hop according to your career, 2:07:18.600 --> 2:07:25.360 what would it be? Oh wow, I guess the gate 2:07:25.520 --> 2:07:29.000 keeping explain that to the people that don't understand. 2:07:29.640 --> 2:07:31.640 I feel like, you know, there's a hold on what 2:07:31.960 --> 2:07:35.160 everybody needs to be doing in hip hop, like we 2:07:35.320 --> 2:07:37.720 gotta sound like this or we gotta do it this way. 2:07:37.840 --> 2:07:39.880 I mean, I like that it's open and people get 2:07:39.960 --> 2:07:43.160 to choose, but I feel like the powers that be 2:07:43.280 --> 2:07:44.000 kind of put in. 2:07:44.080 --> 2:07:45.120 Our face what they. 2:07:46.760 --> 2:07:49.800 What it needs to be, like it has to be 2:07:50.000 --> 2:07:51.800 like this, like it has to be ratchet or it 2:07:51.920 --> 2:07:54.680 has to be you know, gangster or it has to 2:07:54.800 --> 2:07:56.640 be conscious, so it has to be this. It's like 2:07:56.800 --> 2:08:00.200 so much to all of us, and that we we're 2:08:00.280 --> 2:08:04.280 open to go into whatever direction we want. But I 2:08:04.400 --> 2:08:10.560 feel like, you know, mainstream kind of conducts it to 2:08:10.720 --> 2:08:14.880 be mainstream and what they whatever they feel is mainstream. 2:08:15.160 --> 2:08:17.600 And we know, right, I mean, we see right through it. 2:08:18.800 --> 2:08:19.640 Do you not see it? 2:08:19.760 --> 2:08:24.080 I see it? I feel like speaking like Rhapsody, I'm 2:08:24.120 --> 2:08:26.560 a I'm a fan of Rhapsody, but I don't get 2:08:26.600 --> 2:08:29.880 to see her, you know, as much as i'd like to. 2:08:32.600 --> 2:08:35.640 So I follow her, you know, like I follow her, 2:08:35.720 --> 2:08:38.720 but I feel like they push, they push in front 2:08:38.760 --> 2:08:41.560 of you who they want to make a star, and 2:08:41.640 --> 2:08:42.880 it makes you just wonder. 2:08:42.720 --> 2:08:42.800 Like. 2:08:45.440 --> 2:08:48.920 A point the baby that won't even It just makes 2:08:48.960 --> 2:08:52.280 you wonder, like is this all a part of a 2:08:52.440 --> 2:08:55.800 plan to you know, put us put in front of 2:08:55.880 --> 2:08:56.840 us what they want us. 2:08:57.520 --> 2:08:58.480 They want this to be the. 2:09:00.200 --> 2:09:03.920 Uh this freedom because social media, okay, let me democratize it. 2:09:04.000 --> 2:09:07.000 But really, even though these tech companies now are the 2:09:07.080 --> 2:09:09.760 gatekeepers and there's a lot of stuff going on there, but. 2:09:09.840 --> 2:09:13.320 Let me ask you so for lack of a better term, 2:09:13.600 --> 2:09:17.760 and you correct me if I'm wrong. What's so unprepable 2:09:18.200 --> 2:09:26.680 was kind of like the ratchet conscious and sexy you 2:09:26.720 --> 2:09:27.840 feel ratchet was in there. 2:09:27.880 --> 2:09:29.040 I don't think we were ratchet. 2:09:29.120 --> 2:09:30.320 I don't I don't see the ratchet. 2:09:30.760 --> 2:09:31.839 We did a little raunchy. 2:09:33.520 --> 2:09:36.160 If you did raunchy, then that's that's eighties ratchet. 2:09:36.200 --> 2:09:42.320 Our panties like we had. 2:09:45.360 --> 2:09:50.200 Not what it is, but for that time, it would 2:09:50.200 --> 2:09:51.360 have been pushing that envelope. 2:09:51.920 --> 2:09:53.800 It was everything. 2:09:54.200 --> 2:09:57.560 So when all the things you've been when you listened 2:09:59.000 --> 2:10:01.080 by the way, I told you you how I felt earlier. 2:10:03.240 --> 2:10:08.920 Yeah, because but I'm not a female. Yeah we know this. 2:10:09.160 --> 2:10:13.360 But when you listen to knowing you have daughters and 2:10:13.440 --> 2:10:22.080 you listen to the right these records have dances too. 2:10:22.360 --> 2:10:23.000 Because I don't know. 2:10:25.040 --> 2:10:30.240 I'm saying it, I'm saying it. But and by the way, 2:10:30.400 --> 2:10:36.400 I was like, holy ship. Do you feel like, damn 2:10:37.080 --> 2:10:39.920 they didn't listen to me us or do you feel 2:10:39.960 --> 2:10:43.000 like damn they keeping our message going? 2:10:43.280 --> 2:10:45.440 Oh no, I don't feel like they didn't listen to us. 2:10:45.760 --> 2:10:48.800 I feel like they're in their own space. Hm. I 2:10:48.880 --> 2:10:53.760 feel like these artists that are out that come out 2:10:54.240 --> 2:10:56.360 are in their own space, but they have to find 2:10:56.400 --> 2:10:59.680 who they are and do what they do, so I. 2:11:02.000 --> 2:11:02.320 I don't. 2:11:03.040 --> 2:11:05.640 I mean, if you're inspired by our music and about 2:11:05.640 --> 2:11:06.879 how we work, great. 2:11:07.080 --> 2:11:09.840 They've been pushing it real good for a Yeah, if 2:11:09.840 --> 2:11:11.000 you're inspired, great. 2:11:11.240 --> 2:11:14.440 I mean I just remember for us what we've done 2:11:15.000 --> 2:11:20.400 too for a womanhood. I remember how we kind of 2:11:20.480 --> 2:11:24.960 push the movement empowerment, empowering women and that was really 2:11:25.000 --> 2:11:28.440 important that we We could use more of that. Now, 2:11:28.840 --> 2:11:31.680 we definitely could use more of that. So artists today 2:11:32.920 --> 2:11:35.160 can take a page from that book. I'm not saying 2:11:35.480 --> 2:11:38.960 be like us, do you, but a page from that 2:11:39.040 --> 2:11:43.040 book as a woman, you know, is only going to 2:11:43.120 --> 2:11:44.960 make it better for your surroundings. 2:11:45.080 --> 2:11:49.120 I think, right, And we probably need more female groups, 2:11:49.640 --> 2:11:51.240 that's what we're at. We were talking about that with 2:11:51.320 --> 2:11:55.040 mass because there's not as many groups anymore in general, the. 2:11:55.080 --> 2:11:58.520 Old school groups like well let's talk about what a band? Right? 2:12:00.800 --> 2:12:04.040 How does this session happen? Because now you're the DJ, 2:12:04.440 --> 2:12:08.440 now you're stepping up session. 2:12:09.440 --> 2:12:12.480 Well, they called me to m C on regular occasions 2:12:12.600 --> 2:12:15.480 because you know, bless you, bless you, because they knew 2:12:15.600 --> 2:12:16.120 I could. 2:12:16.440 --> 2:12:20.520 You know I could, And just just a little are 2:12:20.560 --> 2:12:25.320 we taking the shot for no reason? No, you are okay, okay, 2:12:25.520 --> 2:12:27.080 I was waiting. If you had one, I would take 2:12:27.080 --> 2:12:29.960 it with you. Let's go you ready, Yeah, my co 2:12:30.200 --> 2:12:35.480 let's go up your cup. I'm doing the guy. 2:12:35.560 --> 2:12:37.280 So what a man? That's called session? 2:12:40.280 --> 2:12:44.920 Freddie Fox? Freddie Fox was was the writer. 2:12:45.920 --> 2:12:50.560 Wait the same bumpy knuckles, knuckles, bumpy knuckles, what a man? 2:12:50.760 --> 2:12:53.640 Yes, what the fuck out of here? It's my friend. 2:12:54.000 --> 2:12:55.360 I'm calling him giving a call. 2:12:55.760 --> 2:13:00.640 Yes, And he said, he said, he said, Salt is 2:13:00.760 --> 2:13:04.880 the person you want to you want to Pepper is 2:13:04.880 --> 2:13:07.160 the person you want to take home. No, so is 2:13:07.160 --> 2:13:10.240 the person you want to take home to mama. Spin 2:13:10.400 --> 2:13:13.600 is the person you want to marry. And Pepper is 2:13:13.640 --> 2:13:15.320 the person you want to fucko. 2:13:16.880 --> 2:13:18.480 This is what he said. This is what he said. 2:13:18.600 --> 2:13:22.840 He said he had this, he had this, He had 2:13:22.920 --> 2:13:24.840 this thing about Salt Pepper. 2:13:24.880 --> 2:13:29.760 This was this is his his right and and and 2:13:30.320 --> 2:13:34.480 he said, he said, Salt is the person to take 2:13:34.520 --> 2:13:38.160 home to mama. Spin is the person you want to marry, 2:13:39.120 --> 2:13:42.520 and ask him. You can ask him yourself. He won't 2:13:42.560 --> 2:13:45.080 say it, he won't say it publicly for whatever reason, 2:13:45.160 --> 2:13:47.840 but you can talk to them. And Pepper is the 2:13:47.920 --> 2:13:49.720 person you want to fuck. It was just this thing 2:13:49.800 --> 2:13:50.839 about salt and pepper. 2:13:51.240 --> 2:13:55.400 Oh oh, you calling her? Go ahead on what's happen? 2:13:55.400 --> 2:14:01.600 I don't know on the regular phone, nigga, ain't fucking me? 2:14:03.440 --> 2:14:10.320 Oh man, do I got his number? I don't know 2:14:10.400 --> 2:14:12.240 if that's is this? 2:14:14.040 --> 2:14:15.280 Just want to see if I can find his number? 2:14:16.080 --> 2:14:21.240 Please? Is this what number you got? 2:14:21.320 --> 2:14:21.720 You got this. 2:14:24.840 --> 2:14:27.080 Exactly? All right? So why am I calling? 2:14:27.320 --> 2:14:27.520 Okay? 2:14:27.600 --> 2:14:28.520 But because. 2:14:29.960 --> 2:14:32.200 You could just talk to him separately. But that was 2:14:32.640 --> 2:14:35.240 the gist of the conversation that I had with him. 2:14:35.640 --> 2:14:38.120 And so when when we went into the studio to 2:14:38.280 --> 2:14:43.320 do it, and he had this idea of how is 2:14:43.360 --> 2:14:48.040 the one they want to suck mom, take home to mom, 2:14:48.320 --> 2:14:49.440 take home mom. 2:14:50.760 --> 2:14:52.440 To get married to marry. 2:14:53.440 --> 2:14:56.280 Is the one you want to suck and and not him? 2:14:56.440 --> 2:14:59.280 But he was like, that's how it seems like the 2:14:59.400 --> 2:15:04.240 world easy, all right. I don't know from what he 2:15:04.400 --> 2:15:07.360 said that's you know, you'd have to talk with him 2:15:07.360 --> 2:15:12.080 about it. But it gave us a picture. It gave 2:15:12.160 --> 2:15:17.520 me a picture of how to vocalize my verse. And 2:15:19.320 --> 2:15:21.960 when you ask how did it come together, it was 2:15:22.000 --> 2:15:25.400 a description of how to deliver my verse. 2:15:25.560 --> 2:15:30.760 So yeah, and that was like your introduction because everyone 2:15:31.240 --> 2:15:31.480 it was. 2:15:31.560 --> 2:15:34.920 Just so it wasn't my introduction to MC and though 2:15:35.000 --> 2:15:38.000 it was because I was on earlier stuff too, but 2:15:38.360 --> 2:15:40.480 but that was a big one. 2:15:44.240 --> 2:15:47.560 World and it was you was you pleased? 2:15:47.960 --> 2:15:51.080 I was very pleased. But you know, I'm a DJ, 2:15:51.400 --> 2:15:53.800 so I just got up there and just did my 2:15:53.920 --> 2:15:58.400 thing or whatever, and I mean for that to be 2:15:58.480 --> 2:16:03.680 a hit, it was. It's still a head to this day. 2:16:03.840 --> 2:16:06.640 It is as soon as the girl leaves somebody, they 2:16:06.720 --> 2:16:08.560 be like, what a man, What a man? 2:16:09.720 --> 2:16:11.280 And as a DJ, to be able to play a 2:16:11.360 --> 2:16:16.040 record somebody incredible. It's either when they leave them or 2:16:16.080 --> 2:16:18.280 when they meet somebody like what a man. 2:16:18.960 --> 2:16:21.240 That by the way, if you want to praise the men, 2:16:21.480 --> 2:16:23.800 you know, like men don't get a lot of praise. 2:16:24.480 --> 2:16:27.800 This woman who played this record? Okay, this woman, and 2:16:28.800 --> 2:16:30.600 they throw it in our face they be like, what 2:16:30.800 --> 2:16:31.160 a man? 2:16:31.320 --> 2:16:31.880 What a man? 2:16:32.120 --> 2:16:33.160 You better be a good man. 2:16:33.320 --> 2:16:34.840 That's what goddamn taket shot. 2:16:37.320 --> 2:16:39.800 Okay, So we got the what a man behind us. 2:16:41.440 --> 2:16:42.680 Shout out to all the men out there. 2:16:42.920 --> 2:16:44.920 Yes, m. 2:16:47.040 --> 2:16:55.039 Look, I'm like, so. 2:16:57.920 --> 2:17:03.440 We have hip hop fifty We had fifty one, now 2:17:03.800 --> 2:17:14.400 fifty one, now right, we had saltemn Pepper. What is 2:17:14.440 --> 2:17:17.400 it thirty year anniversary or twenty year anniversary? 2:17:17.480 --> 2:17:17.600 Oh? 2:17:17.760 --> 2:17:22.920 No, gosh, well thirty five. 2:17:23.800 --> 2:17:28.320 Eighty six, So eighty six would be forty years for 2:17:28.480 --> 2:17:32.040 Salt and Pepper and I came in eighty seven, a 2:17:32.200 --> 2:17:35.400 year after. Yeah, I think they released first in eighty 2:17:35.480 --> 2:17:36.680 six if I'm not mistaken. 2:17:37.480 --> 2:17:42.199 And I came eighty seven, so we're almost the forty 2:17:42.240 --> 2:17:42.640 year mark. 2:17:42.800 --> 2:17:43.959 Wow, I think. 2:17:47.160 --> 2:17:49.320 A little ya A long. 2:17:49.160 --> 2:17:58.040 Time in your opinion? How would this legacy end? Perfect opinion? 2:18:01.959 --> 2:18:05.280 We'll figure our shit out, We'll do a world tour. 2:18:07.120 --> 2:18:12.280 We'll get you know, show the world that we as 2:18:13.000 --> 2:18:19.160 a unit or a movement as opposed to personal situations, 2:18:19.280 --> 2:18:22.279 and we would be able to as women address our ship. 2:18:25.000 --> 2:18:25.600 If it should be. 2:18:26.600 --> 2:18:29.480 If not, the music will always be there and the 2:18:30.080 --> 2:18:33.520 memories will always be there. That stands out for me. 2:18:34.560 --> 2:18:38.959 I always have that, and I think we all will 2:18:39.240 --> 2:18:40.199 always have the music. 2:18:40.320 --> 2:18:45.520 So if you could take anything back, what it would 2:18:45.520 --> 2:18:45.680 it be? 2:18:46.640 --> 2:18:47.280 Nothing at all? 2:18:48.080 --> 2:18:48.320 Fuck? 2:18:48.360 --> 2:18:53.080 I love the answer nothing because it bring you right here. 2:18:53.200 --> 2:18:56.600 It brought you right here, like I can't regret anything. 2:18:56.640 --> 2:18:58.960 I mean, there's things that I wish I would have known, 2:19:00.240 --> 2:19:04.440 known better to do like well, being young and just 2:19:04.560 --> 2:19:08.279 kind of just going with ship and and just following 2:19:08.360 --> 2:19:12.320 along and just being afraid to speak my mind early 2:19:12.400 --> 2:19:17.640 on or say things that would rock the situation. I mean, 2:19:17.680 --> 2:19:19.320 things might have been a little bit different had I 2:19:19.440 --> 2:19:23.600 done that, you know. But I can't regret anything because 2:19:23.640 --> 2:19:28.039 it's all it happened in my time. Yeah, that day, 2:19:28.200 --> 2:19:29.960 when that day came, when I did speak up, it 2:19:30.120 --> 2:19:33.160 was all like, do you imagine something just rushing in. 2:19:34.160 --> 2:19:39.840 I don't regret anything. No, I'm happy where I am. 2:19:41.720 --> 2:19:43.800 The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame calls. 2:19:45.200 --> 2:19:45.600 I'm like the. 2:19:47.760 --> 2:19:54.240 Ring a Lang Lang one day, one day, You're not. 2:19:54.360 --> 2:19:59.439 You're not denouncing it. You're gonna stay with of course should. 2:20:00.160 --> 2:20:05.360 And right there and being grateful, thankful, you know. I 2:20:05.520 --> 2:20:08.160 think I got to say thank you to the girls. 2:20:08.760 --> 2:20:10.680 I got to say thank you to Herbie for what 2:20:10.920 --> 2:20:13.720 they have done for me. And you know, I'm here 2:20:13.840 --> 2:20:17.120 because of that. But I'm also here because of the 2:20:17.240 --> 2:20:21.000 talent that I exusted, and I'm here because of the 2:20:22.160 --> 2:20:24.640 just the door that was open for me. I took 2:20:24.760 --> 2:20:28.879 full advantage of it. And if I ain't live up 2:20:28.920 --> 2:20:31.960 to this name, then I ain't do my job. If 2:20:32.000 --> 2:20:34.400 I didn't live up to Spinderella, Like, there's no other 2:20:34.520 --> 2:20:36.360 Spinderella in this world that would have lived up to 2:20:36.400 --> 2:20:38.640 this job the way I have no one, no one, 2:20:38.920 --> 2:20:45.680 no one, And I'm still to this day doing it. 2:20:45.760 --> 2:20:48.080 But I'm doing a little bit different. I'm enjoying it today. 2:20:48.879 --> 2:20:51.640 I'm enjoying it today. I used to be a job. 2:20:52.320 --> 2:20:54.400 It used to be a job. It used to be work. 2:20:54.560 --> 2:20:56.400 I used to be like, oh my god, the hustle, bustle, 2:20:56.400 --> 2:20:57.959 and I remember that. But now I get to call 2:20:58.040 --> 2:21:00.240 my shots on your term. It's on my terms day 2:21:00.240 --> 2:21:01.160 and it's the best thing ever. 2:21:02.400 --> 2:21:05.720 Fucking I can't think of a better way to end 2:21:05.800 --> 2:21:09.600 this fucking just like that, you know what. That's how 2:21:09.600 --> 2:21:14.560 I'm living life now. Good Fuck everyone, I'm sorry, did 2:21:14.640 --> 2:21:21.920 I say that about all right? Spend thank you, thank 2:21:21.959 --> 2:21:27.920 you so much because I know again I know you didn't. 2:21:27.680 --> 2:21:30.880 Know what you did for me. Yeah earlier what I said, 2:21:31.080 --> 2:21:33.320 I did not at all. 2:21:33.480 --> 2:21:36.120 I did not know that was in the background, like 2:21:36.640 --> 2:21:40.600 I would like, it's the same the same position. 2:21:41.640 --> 2:21:44.800 Oh did she go like that's crazy? 2:21:48.000 --> 2:21:51.879 And thank you so much. But by the way, let's 2:21:52.000 --> 2:21:56.040 reiterate me and e FN, this is your house. Anytime 2:21:56.120 --> 2:21:58.360 you want to promote something, if you want to promote 2:21:58.680 --> 2:22:04.000 that you got yellow ice dropping and it's just your 2:22:04.040 --> 2:22:06.240 PEPs selling yellow ice. 2:22:07.959 --> 2:22:10.760 But guess what, there's certain. 2:22:10.600 --> 2:22:15.400 Niggas that I did, thee. 2:22:19.120 --> 2:22:21.760 The algorithms I look at that it makes one day. 2:22:21.760 --> 2:22:22.200 I'll be back. 2:22:22.400 --> 2:22:25.880 You can be back anytime you want, because this is 2:22:25.959 --> 2:22:31.080 your house. Respect your husband, respect to your daughter, respected 2:22:31.400 --> 2:22:35.200 your family, because your family is the associated family of 2:22:35.320 --> 2:22:35.880 my family. 2:22:36.560 --> 2:22:39.360 And but that's not why you're here. 2:22:39.480 --> 2:22:43.000 You hear it, because you're one of the greatest DJs 2:22:43.040 --> 2:22:46.279 of all time. And I wanted to say that, particularly 2:22:46.520 --> 2:22:51.440 because certain people say greatest female DJs, and I don't. 2:22:51.640 --> 2:22:52.119 I can't. 2:22:53.040 --> 2:22:58.039 I don't identify with that. Identify with DJ yes, not female. 2:22:59.120 --> 2:23:02.920 I'm killing it. The transis period. People gonna fuck with me. 2:23:08.720 --> 2:23:15.039 She is one of the greatest DJs of all fucking time. Amazing, 2:23:15.400 --> 2:23:19.880 not man, not woman, not black, not white, not Puerto Rican, 2:23:20.200 --> 2:23:25.640 not fucking do Dolph, no, not just diuzled off never, 2:23:25.840 --> 2:23:27.560 just great. 2:23:27.840 --> 2:23:39.480 One of the greatest DJs of all fucking time. 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