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Speaker 3: When we started this show, we said we want to
Speaker 3: give the flowers to icons. We said we wanted to
Speaker 3: give the flowers to legends. We said we wanted to
Speaker 3: give the flowers to people that came before us. This
Speaker 3: person that were introduced them today is not only a
Speaker 3: legendary DJ just a legend. It's just an icon. The
Speaker 3: person that catacalyized the game. I don't even know how
Speaker 3: to word spell it first. Definitely don't even even know
Speaker 3: how to spell McDonald's.
Speaker 1: She is icon.
Speaker 3: Legend a person that if it wasn't for her, there
Speaker 3: might not be you. And guess what, there might not
Speaker 3: be me, There might not be us, there might not
Speaker 3: be drink champs, there might not be nothing.
Speaker 1: Respect the DJs, the mother fucking dj When we found
Speaker 1: out that we had we booking her.
Speaker 3: Immediately for a while, but I immediately asks for her
Speaker 3: drink order, and I'm gonna be honest with you, her
Speaker 3: drink order has to be the wildest we've ever saw it.
Speaker 1: Really, I don't think she met all those drinks at
Speaker 1: the same time. Do you do you want to you
Speaker 1: do you want to say?
Speaker 2: The drinks that she ordered, it's all vodka, tequila, Hanny
Speaker 2: not Kanyac.
Speaker 5: No, this was different people. Kanya. Yes, as you noticed,
Speaker 5: ratchetness came out right. And then what else she said? No, no, no,
Speaker 5: it's no no.
Speaker 3: No, tequila whiskey and it's one more vodka.
Speaker 1: That's aboutka first.
Speaker 4: That's a Hennessy, that's a Hennessy privilege.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, But in case you don't know who we're
Speaker 3: talking about, were talking about the legendary, iconic, oh goddess
Speaker 3: person that I'm mad that we didn't throw flowers at
Speaker 3: her feet when she walked through because I had just landed,
Speaker 3: so I didn't I didn't think she don't.
Speaker 1: Know who he's talking about. It's about the one only mother.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm off top. I'mnna be honest, Jamie.
Speaker 3: I'm doing vodking club soda immediately. Okay, are you doing
Speaker 3: something doing kah oh yea. I ain't gonna lie, man,
Speaker 3: I've been.
Speaker 4: I've been.
Speaker 1: I've been having conversations with your liver lately, with my
Speaker 1: liver liver.
Speaker 3: No, you're living texting my living and I'd be like,
Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, like your living.
Speaker 1: Chat and your living been. Like yo, man, this guy
Speaker 1: like just drinking too much. Different ship. Like they want
Speaker 1: you to stick. They want you to be black, stick
Speaker 1: with one liquor and you stick with four. I'm sticking
Speaker 1: with one. It's vodka and ma majuana. That's not one.
Speaker 1: That's one combination. Then you got beer. No, I'm not
Speaker 1: drinking beer.
Speaker 4: Beer.
Speaker 1: I drink beer after that's the afternoon. Ain't this drink cher,
Speaker 1: You're mature drink.
Speaker 3: So let's let's take it to the beginning, right, because
Speaker 3: everyone one documents your career from when you got with
Speaker 3: Salt Pepper, But.
Speaker 1: You had a whole life prior to that.
Speaker 4: I had a life period. I was not born in
Speaker 4: Sultan pep. You know you're not having like that. I
Speaker 4: started DJing before Salt and Pepper. But it wasn't like
Speaker 4: I was trying to be a DJ, and I just
Speaker 4: kind of picked it up.
Speaker 6: My high school boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Was a DJ, and I.
Speaker 4: You know, used to go to his house after school
Speaker 4: and we just would you know, be practicing, and he
Speaker 4: had he had a set of turntables. So I was
Speaker 4: learning the art and technique from him, and he did
Speaker 4: a few parties, took me along with him, and so
Speaker 4: I kind of picked it up there.
Speaker 1: So so, okay, what was the DJ name you had done?
Speaker 1: I didn't have a DJ name.
Speaker 4: I was just DD. I mean that's a lot. I
Speaker 4: mean that was enough for me. But I wasn't trying.
Speaker 4: Like again, I wasn't trying to be a DJ. It
Speaker 4: was just something I was interested in. But even before that,
Speaker 4: my dad was a collector, so he collected all this,
Speaker 4: you know, music collect music. He was an avid collector
Speaker 4: of all like the music. He had vinyl all of
Speaker 4: forty five. So I was from a child.
Speaker 1: Familiar thing and hearing all.
Speaker 4: The music, and I adopted you know, the music. You know,
Speaker 4: I guess my vast uh nature of music came from
Speaker 4: my dad. So I had that that before I even
Speaker 4: started on turntables.
Speaker 1: So let me let me, let me let me say something.
Speaker 3: As an MC, I realized the other day I always
Speaker 3: been jealous of the DJ.
Speaker 2: Really, yes, I mean that's how it all started. You
Speaker 2: guys were jealous of the DJ.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm not gonna By the way, this
Speaker 4: is so constant.
Speaker 1: This is me talking sub consciousness.
Speaker 3: When we had mad Skills the other day, and MAS
Speaker 3: skills is like, yo, he prefers being a DJ over MC,
Speaker 3: and I was appalled because I'm an MC and I
Speaker 3: can't be a DJ.
Speaker 1: I suck. I tried.
Speaker 3: I could be an eye part DJ, that's about it.
Speaker 3: But when I realized parts anymore. Okay, So so what
Speaker 3: I realized was he said, he said, the reason why
Speaker 3: I like DJ in a little bit more is because I'm.
Speaker 1: Actually in control of the crowd.
Speaker 3: I had never heard that, so I literally cringed you
Speaker 3: a DJ, so you probably didn't catch it. So when
Speaker 3: he said it, I was like, because as an MC,
Speaker 3: if you don't like my music. I can't change your mind.
Speaker 1: DJ can change versus one. So what kind of power
Speaker 1: is that?
Speaker 3: Like, I'm sorry, I know I'm all over the place,
Speaker 3: but my DJ DJ butch Rock.
Speaker 1: We'll go to the club an hour early.
Speaker 3: And because I have a black crowd, I have a
Speaker 3: Latino crowd.
Speaker 1: I have a such a such crowd.
Speaker 3: So he'll go to the our earlier is black tonight.
Speaker 1: We're being Latino tonight. We're being We're being black tonight.
Speaker 1: We're being black Tino. You know what I'm saying, he'll do.
Speaker 3: When I spoke to Mad Skills, he said he didn't
Speaker 3: have to do that, he could just go and just
Speaker 3: read the crowd.
Speaker 1: And I was, I'm jealous of y'all. I'm just being
Speaker 1: I should have told you this off scene, the heart
Speaker 1: to that. I didn't know the heart to that. Like,
Speaker 1: so we're not just hold on, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on. She need to drink. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you noticed. I was like, yes, and ladies, first, ladies, ladies.
Speaker 6: I don't know what do I want on the list?
Speaker 4: Let me see?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah you got a long list. Yeah that's what
Speaker 1: you want?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so so so let's get back to act.
Speaker 3: The art of DJing. I always.
Speaker 6: There's an art to it.
Speaker 3: I always underestimated you guys until I actually investigating and
Speaker 3: when I realized, holy ship, I ain't ship without a DJ.
Speaker 3: How does that feel to control the crowd?
Speaker 6: First of all, thank you for that.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's a compliment because it all
Speaker 4: started with the DJ, that's right. So the DJ would
Speaker 4: would you know, lock their set and they would leave
Speaker 4: a mic there for you know, someone to come up
Speaker 4: and grab the mic into, you know, do some crowd
Speaker 4: stuff in CrowdWork because they're working, they're they're up there
Speaker 4: doing their thing.
Speaker 1: But the power is.
Speaker 6: It just it just feels good because you can change moods.
Speaker 6: You can change.
Speaker 4: You know people's uh wherever they are, they can be sad. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you change the energy the vibes, and that's the most
Speaker 4: beautiful thing. And there were times that I, of course
Speaker 4: second guessed myself, just just as you, as an.
Speaker 1: M C would be like, you know, I idolize the
Speaker 1: m C.
Speaker 4: Well, DJs would feel the same way in a sense
Speaker 4: because we weren't always and I don't I'm going to
Speaker 4: speak for myself. Sometimes the MC was always in it,
Speaker 4: you know, in the front, and the DJ is is
Speaker 4: the one behind. So but when you know your power,
Speaker 4: and this is just with anything in life, when you
Speaker 4: know your power, you use it. And I you know,
Speaker 4: knowing that I could change people's mood and make them happy, sad, mad,
Speaker 4: you know, whatever their vibe is, I can I can
Speaker 4: change that. That that's powerful. So it's an It's inspiring
Speaker 4: to me as well as to those that's listening.
Speaker 3: You know, to every DJ in the world, I apologize
Speaker 3: for underestimating your job because I kid you not. It's
Speaker 3: the first thing I think of when I think of
Speaker 3: a party, I'm like, who's going to DJ?
Speaker 2: You know what you really should think about is every
Speaker 2: successful artist has a DJ. The DJ is the one
Speaker 2: that made them success. Of DJ and the and the
Speaker 2: obviously the consumer the audience was the DJ.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you, I'm spending At one point,
Speaker 3: the DJ was the focal point.
Speaker 1: Like it was like it was like you did not
Speaker 1: to say it like this, but you knew about rockhem
Speaker 1: but you kind of came to see Eric B. I
Speaker 1: don't want to like throw sort of salt and pepper. Damn, right,
Speaker 1: that's not crazy.
Speaker 3: I din't even realize, but at one point, you know,
Speaker 3: people really came to see you, like like they were
Speaker 3: like really like because the DJ was the forefront. When
Speaker 3: did that transition from the DJ being everything to the
Speaker 3: DJ being just behind?
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't don't want to transition. I feel like
Speaker 4: that was in Okay, let's think about it. The golden
Speaker 4: era of hip hop is considered probably the late.
Speaker 1: Eighties, eighties to early nineties, early nineties.
Speaker 4: To early nineties, and in that timeframe, so the late eighties,
Speaker 4: think of all the groups that had DJs, Houdini on DMC,
Speaker 4: l who J, Public Enemy, Public Enemy, Sultan Pepper, Jesse, Jeff,
Speaker 4: First Prince, that was the thing, right, even EPMD would.
Speaker 6: The Scratched you know once that moved, Gnaughty by Nature.
Speaker 1: Boys with Hurricane, the.
Speaker 4: Basti Boys, when that transitioned. I feel like that may
Speaker 4: have happened when the gangster era came in.
Speaker 2: Maybe you don't think instant replay I think had a
Speaker 2: big part in that when when artists said we don't really.
Speaker 3: Need we played equipment period, because we're saying when they moved.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking at the time frame. I don't know,
Speaker 1: like you know what particular, uh hardware.
Speaker 4: There was, you know, that transition that I'm looking at
Speaker 4: the time frame and when the DJ started to become
Speaker 4: more like behind the scenes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It started to the MC was.
Speaker 4: All in the front.
Speaker 6: So and that to me was around.
Speaker 2: Eighty eight, no later, because because I mean, everybody's gonna say,
Speaker 2: you're defending.
Speaker 1: The groups, we're out in the nineties.
Speaker 2: But even the gangster artists, like if you think about
Speaker 2: nw A had Dre and Yellow Quick DJ Quick after
Speaker 2: the fact, the alcoholics had East Swift and he's in
Speaker 2: mid nineties.
Speaker 6: Stick of mid nineties.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well Tribe was out. You know, Tribe was my
Speaker 4: ship and they had a DJ DJ. I mean even artists.
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking of the time frame that when that
Speaker 4: transition happened.
Speaker 6: You had Wu Tang who was the DJ for Wu Tang.
Speaker 1: Mathematic Yeah, yeah, okay, So but.
Speaker 4: There was a switch there was a switch up that happened,
Speaker 4: and I'm looking at the timeframe and I feel like
Speaker 4: mid nineties to late nineties that changed.
Speaker 1: That changed.
Speaker 6: And I also remember when Kris One used.
Speaker 4: To talk about the DJ back like he actually did
Speaker 4: a song about DJs. This was like late was it
Speaker 4: the late nineties, I'm not sure when it was, but
Speaker 4: it made me think like he gave respect to the
Speaker 4: djh this is after the fact, this is when the
Speaker 4: DJ was kind of like in the background, faded out.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean daylight Saw. I mean I could
Speaker 4: go on and on how important the DJ is in
Speaker 4: a group, especially when it comes to hip hop.
Speaker 3: Well, at one point, the DJ was the most important,
Speaker 3: like shit the beginning. Yeah, I would like this in
Speaker 3: my own career. I remember at one point we used
Speaker 3: to go to Europe before and they were like, get
Speaker 3: them a steak.
Speaker 1: Let's see what you DJ got. They said what they said,
Speaker 1: we finished it, get.
Speaker 3: Off and then they were like, because because that's the
Speaker 3: concept we signed, our DJ will performed prior to us
Speaker 3: and then afterwards and the crowd movement so hip hop
Speaker 3: hip hop has been I feel like you come from
Speaker 3: the purest form of hip hop and I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 3: take some because And I'm gonna say it for myself.
Speaker 3: I was in the same time as the other day
Speaker 3: and my wife's friends pulled up and they was playing
Speaker 3: some music that was horrible. I mean, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: it wasn't horrible. It was horrible to my tasting. I'm
Speaker 3: a forty six year old man, I'm married, I'm in love,
Speaker 3: I have children, and I don't want to be hereing.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I was appalled. What song was that?
Speaker 6: That's what I want to know is St. Thomas?
Speaker 1: It wasn't the St. Thomas song.
Speaker 7: It was now it was you know your And when
Speaker 7: I was listening to these the young woman lyrics, oh ship.
Speaker 4: Who was you talking about?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying about, I am now the
Speaker 3: old man because I was saying, She's like, shoot up
Speaker 3: your block to make you know me?
Speaker 1: That shit is appalling. But they told my yeah, you
Speaker 1: have officially crossed that line. I can't say, as I say,
Speaker 1: I don't know what.
Speaker 3: By the way, I don't I'm not offenditive of her,
Speaker 3: but I was just like, damn, there's so much vulgar music,
Speaker 3: Like if I have a kid right now, just I'm
Speaker 3: gonna tell my kids listen to this.
Speaker 1: Okay, So so let me just remind you of what
Speaker 1: we listened to back then, some vulgar. I mean then
Speaker 1: did we not forget Luke?
Speaker 4: Do we not forget I mean little Kim and Foxy
Speaker 4: ground right there? I mean come on, huh.
Speaker 1: Oh, they had great things, but that was us. That
Speaker 1: was us then.
Speaker 4: So you know, we do have to consider that we
Speaker 4: are older and our tastes have probably developed different experience
Speaker 4: in life and just some things is just not suitable
Speaker 4: for you as it was before.
Speaker 6: You know, especially that you have children now different and
Speaker 6: that's okay.
Speaker 4: You know, we got to but we cannot front on
Speaker 4: the fact that we had vulgarity in our in our
Speaker 4: music back.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's vulgarity. It was vulgar. No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying. I'm saying, I'm that's the issue. Maybe
Speaker 1: that I didn't even know push it was a sexual song. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't. I mean, talk about it. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about it. I'm gonna be honest with you. But you
Speaker 1: eighties artists listen, let me be honest with you. Eighties artists.
Speaker 3: God exploit it sexuality, but they did it in taste
Speaker 3: that I.
Speaker 1: Later on in life quote on Oh, they're talking about
Speaker 1: this like subliminals. It was slim. It wasn't. It wasn't, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna that's definitely wasn't that, like except I went
Speaker 1: to I'm just saying, this is what they say you nowadays,
Speaker 1: they're like.
Speaker 6: Hey, man, I like that mystery. I like that mystery.
Speaker 4: You know that's subliminate. Think of think of from a
Speaker 4: TV standpoint, remember Three's Company. How how they would have
Speaker 4: those subliminal jokes about sexual and those you know, but
Speaker 4: it made you want to watch because it's like, you
Speaker 4: know they're gonna say something.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like that, but nothing was ever said.
Speaker 6: But you know, as an example for pushing it was
Speaker 6: not a sexual song.
Speaker 4: We were literally talking about dancing on the you know,
Speaker 4: the dance floor, and people took that and took it.
Speaker 6: The other way and it actually worked for us. So
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm a.
Speaker 4: True I was saying he thought of saying the words
Speaker 4: is really similar, you know, trust me.
Speaker 1: I was not saying that.
Speaker 4: I was not saying that. But people, I mean, gosh,
Speaker 4: we were almost arrested for that song. Like yeah, like
Speaker 4: doing like being on stage and being told that if
Speaker 4: you play that song. That happened to us as well,
Speaker 4: if you play that song here to push it, wow,
Speaker 4: you can get arrested. So there were times that that
Speaker 4: was almost the case, and somehow we got, you know,
Speaker 4: to a point where it was like you know, we
Speaker 4: just had had to convince everybody that this is not
Speaker 4: about what you think it's and that is the truth.
Speaker 1: Matter take it as you want, okay.
Speaker 3: So we interviewed who do we interview and they said
Speaker 3: that they were getting threatened every night. A. T. K.
Speaker 1: Kirk that the easy was that a similar situation.
Speaker 4: It was similar and and trust me, it wasn't just
Speaker 4: n WA was dealing with that. I'm sure there was
Speaker 4: a lot of artists that had that because back then,
Speaker 4: you know, there was I don't know, there was no
Speaker 4: there was no parameters, right, So it was kind of
Speaker 4: like we were doing these songs and just creating this
Speaker 4: you know, vibe, and and it sounded as if we
Speaker 4: were crossing a line and for us, we were just
Speaker 4: girls having a good time party and doing our song.
Speaker 6: They thought it was something else. And so yeah, that
Speaker 6: happened with which was.
Speaker 2: Coming in here in the US and in music it
Speaker 2: was they used to do that, even believe it or not,
Speaker 2: with with the old school music, like with the old
Speaker 2: school rock or whether it be Sinatra, those guys believe
Speaker 2: it or what. If they performed, the local cops would
Speaker 2: show up say that it was profane. In some way
Speaker 2: like it wasn't new to hip hop, but I'm sure
Speaker 2: hip hop took it another notch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry to change the subject, but I just
Speaker 3: performed for Fat Joe.
Speaker 1: Big up to the Fat Joe. You got to keep
Speaker 1: the city right. Get on stage.
Speaker 3: There's five cops waiting for me for you. So I
Speaker 3: get on stage and they're like, you know where you
Speaker 3: could get a photo? And I'm like calling this the
Speaker 3: no warrant photo.
Speaker 1: I wanted to leave. So I'm just I don't know
Speaker 1: I changed the subject, but so let's just take the
Speaker 1: band aid off.
Speaker 4: Let me.
Speaker 3: Because I'm gonna be honest with you as a younger.
Speaker 3: I was about to say citizen, but I don't think
Speaker 3: that's the correct word. Nice shirt, Charlie, you think, But younger,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you, and you're gonna, you're gonna,
Speaker 3: you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna think that.
Speaker 1: I'm so naive, but I am, and I want to be.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to ever see you in Pepper have
Speaker 3: beef like I honestly, I'm almost tearing up a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm almost hurt me. Damn. I am actually hold home,
Speaker 1: get my life together.
Speaker 3: Because yeah, my childhood heroes, my childhood yeah, my heroes.
Speaker 1: So to see turmoial period, like I almost ignored it.
Speaker 3: Expecting that it would just go away because I was
Speaker 3: so like attached to y'all, like I'm so attached. I'm
Speaker 3: not attached to so Pepper without Spinderrella.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I apologize. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't care what people think. It's just how I
Speaker 3: see it. I didn't see the other spinder Blla, God
Speaker 3: bless her. I know she she's supposed to be first,
Speaker 3: but I didn't. I don't remember how she looked. I
Speaker 3: don't remember. All I remember is this.
Speaker 1: So when I got the word that it was any turmorial,
Speaker 1: I didn't remember what the turmorial was.
Speaker 3: But I remember me being sad, and I remember me
Speaker 3: continuing to be sad, and then we put this interview.
Speaker 3: I'm watching these interviews and I'm seeing you, you know,
Speaker 3: speaking your piece, and I still to this day, I'm like,
Speaker 3: d what happened?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what happened?
Speaker 3: So in your opinion, what was the first straw on
Speaker 3: the camel's back that you was like, damn, this is
Speaker 3: not right.
Speaker 4: I mean, generally speaking, when you just grow up, just
Speaker 4: get to a point where things will not you will
Speaker 4: not be tolerated and respect.
Speaker 1: This should be mutual.
Speaker 4: And when respect is mutual, we can move and do whatever.
Speaker 4: But when respect is not mutual, then that's you know what,
Speaker 4: are you here for the bag that don't last? Because
Speaker 4: I can do a bag without it, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So growing up for me, you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: having my grandson changed me, just seeing how the whole
Speaker 4: scope of hip hop is changing, just how things are.
Speaker 4: History is important, like like like being being in the
Speaker 4: history books is important. Legacy is important, absolutely, but yeah,
Speaker 4: you just don't take bullshit anymore. When you get to
Speaker 4: a certain point, it's done. And I felt like if
Speaker 4: we don't have that mutual respect, it's not going to work.
Speaker 1: And so we needed we needed that.
Speaker 4: We needed to do that. We needed to do that, and.
Speaker 6: I know how people feel like it does it really
Speaker 6: hurt people?
Speaker 1: Like I mean, like a dagger on one of them.
Speaker 1: I had to just tears.
Speaker 6: But you have to understand, I'm sorry, but.
Speaker 4: I'm it's like you just have to it's bigger than
Speaker 4: this group, like it's life. It's like you just don't
Speaker 4: want to deal with you know ship that you you know,
Speaker 4: don't have to and we had to get some things
Speaker 4: straight and and we had to do it in a
Speaker 4: way that was not you know, unfortunately it was publicized.
Speaker 1: Uh, but it had to be because there was a
Speaker 1: lot of work.
Speaker 4: There was a lot of you know, like everything from
Speaker 4: legalities involved in dissecting royalties and things like that. So
Speaker 4: all that has been dealt with. All that, thanks you
Speaker 4: been settled. Everything has been good.
Speaker 1: Well, the business side has been dealt with.
Speaker 4: The business side has been handled, But the friendships are
Speaker 4: I'm not going to say it's it's I'm not going
Speaker 4: to say it's not it's dead in the water. I'm
Speaker 4: going to say I'm always going to be open. My
Speaker 4: heart is always open. So what fortunately we did come together,
Speaker 4: We got to a star in a Hollywood Walk of Fame,
Speaker 4: and we acknowledged we got acknowledged you know, for other
Speaker 4: things as well. And it's just it's like in any
Speaker 4: relationship sometimes it just dissolve. There you're there for a time,
Speaker 4: and you're there for a reason and you just you.
Speaker 1: Know, move on.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but I just want you to know how
Speaker 3: much y'all meant to us, how much you mean to us,
Speaker 3: not meant meant this past tense.
Speaker 1: And I'm a little smarter than that. Okay, how much
Speaker 1: you mean to us? You guys.
Speaker 3: Evolutionize the woman category, like you made sure that like
Speaker 3: woman was represented in the hip hop and for that,
Speaker 3: like you you could never take that away. What I'm
Speaker 3: saying is again, like I want to reiterate what I
Speaker 3: said earlier, because if this wasn't no Peppa and Spinderella,
Speaker 3: there wouldn't be no fucking compona dj e FN.
Speaker 1: So if there's any way that you.
Speaker 3: Could have meended, I recommend you do because I love
Speaker 3: to see y'all three together, Like it's like Voltron, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like it's like when I see
Speaker 3: y'all three, like I actually get goosebumps. I actually do,
Speaker 3: And so I just I just want to commend y'all
Speaker 3: for maintaining that. And it was one of the probably
Speaker 3: the worst fan moments of my life, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: seeing y'all go through it, because I honestly looked at
Speaker 3: it and didn't like try to act like I ignored it,
Speaker 3: like I didn't just see that crazy.
Speaker 4: It was crazy. Think about groups though all the groups,
Speaker 4: it's not perfect, right, especially groups from back in the days,
Speaker 4: it's not not perfect. You name them and they have
Speaker 4: those issues.
Speaker 1: Or starting young and then you grow into different people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we all we all like excited, you know
Speaker 4: in the beginning, and then you know, we grow up
Speaker 4: and we turn into who we are, and then we
Speaker 4: just kind of grow apart.
Speaker 6: But I noticed that that's the.
Speaker 1: Case with most groups.
Speaker 6: I love to see, Like I love to see Jeff
Speaker 6: and and Will together.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 6: I like when I see Chuck, d and Flave come together.
Speaker 6: You know, I like when I.
Speaker 1: See you know, just old groups together.
Speaker 4: What I do understand that you can't make a square
Speaker 4: fit into a certain you cannot, but you might have to.
Speaker 3: You know, all of them have beef too. It's just
Speaker 3: the difference y'all and them is that y'all beef was public.
Speaker 3: And the thing about it is.
Speaker 1: No, their beef was public. A lot of like like
Speaker 1: who's beef was public?
Speaker 2: Who public enemy? Not Jeff, I'm talking about public enemy.
Speaker 2: Just Chuck just at one point was wild too, and right,
Speaker 2: I forgot that wark.
Speaker 4: But when I see them together, it's like, yes, so
Speaker 4: I get what y'all are feeling. I get Look I'm
Speaker 4: talking to me, talking to fans that all of our
Speaker 4: people out there trust me, and you know who. I
Speaker 4: got to give some props to Pepa, So Pep and
Speaker 4: and you know.
Speaker 6: She has been always the glue like she knows.
Speaker 4: Do you know that it hasn't been perfect with the
Speaker 4: three and we got our things about this, but Pep
Speaker 4: will go to no end to make something come together,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And you know we have,
Speaker 4: We've talked on a bunch of occasions and you know,
Speaker 4: we're just we're just leaving the door open.
Speaker 1: We're at that point.
Speaker 2: But to backtrack a little, for people who don't know
Speaker 2: the situation, you don't have to go into it because
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're sick of talking about it. But on
Speaker 2: the business side of it, what could what did you
Speaker 2: learn that you could have done differently for it to
Speaker 2: not I was.
Speaker 4: Young and there was no contract number one, so contract
Speaker 4: as far as road or contract as far as.
Speaker 6: Its internal internal nothing. There was no contract.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like, look, we want you to DJ
Speaker 4: for us, audition for us without a contract. There was
Speaker 4: no contract and that and me I was sixteen, so
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, whatever.
Speaker 6: But even when I got.
Speaker 4: Older, I did ask, you know, can we produce something
Speaker 4: some kind of something assigned to But you know, their
Speaker 4: argument is, it was Herbie who brought me to you know,
Speaker 4: in the group. It was Herbie's group. Herbie was the
Speaker 4: creator of.
Speaker 3: Salt and Pepper, and Salt Pepper both from Queens. You're
Speaker 3: from Brooklyn, Brooklyn, okay, and Herby's You'd be stabbed a
Speaker 3: lot of people. Watch out, guys, watch out.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so Herbie was the one who and he
Speaker 4: was the one who brought Pepper in. And he actually
Speaker 4: was Salt who brought pepper in. But we we we
Speaker 4: didn't have a contract. So that's how important contracts are.
Speaker 4: And if you don't have that, you know, you really
Speaker 4: don't have a leg to stay on. So and that's
Speaker 4: so that's bad on both sides, them as the as
Speaker 4: the unit and me as the DJ coming into the unit.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: But you know, to my point, I wanted to make
Speaker 4: things right, you know, from a legal standpoint, make sure,
Speaker 4: let's let's produce a contract. And when I would do that,
Speaker 4: I would get pushed back from that.
Speaker 1: You know, we like it the way it is.
Speaker 3: Leave it alone, you know, so let me stop you
Speaker 3: for a second because I heard you say this, but
Speaker 3: I need to hear you say this. So you say,
Speaker 3: and there was gigs that you were doing and wasn't
Speaker 3: getting paid for?
Speaker 4: Oh no, yeah, there was what's the word promotional promotional,
Speaker 4: But but I would say I got paid for promotional gigs,
Speaker 4: but we weren't getting paid paid.
Speaker 1: It was like there's a you specifically or the whole
Speaker 1: group wasn't getting paid. Well, the whole group emotional.
Speaker 3: When I just say that, I'm thinking they were signaling you.
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, it was it was promotional runs. I mean,
Speaker 4: it was a photo sessions. There was anything that had
Speaker 4: to do with building a brand.
Speaker 2: Group brand, which is your sweat equity.
Speaker 4: It's sweat equity, and so that's your your investment. Okay,
Speaker 4: I'll invest.
Speaker 6: I believe in this.
Speaker 4: I'm here for it, and that to me, I don't
Speaker 4: care about that.
Speaker 6: What I to, you know, to your point earlier, what
Speaker 6: was it? Without speaking on it.
Speaker 4: I had to take them to court to you know,
Speaker 4: to get my royalties divided.
Speaker 1: Ports from records that I performed on.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm on probably about fifteen three three that super hits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you do your own.
Speaker 4: So, yes, what that said, I mean, that's enough. Come on,
Speaker 4: so somebody's getting paid and I'm not.
Speaker 1: When royalties weren't coming from them, it would be the
Speaker 1: record label.
Speaker 4: It would the record label. It would be the record label.
Speaker 4: But they're still here's the thing. They were signed, and
Speaker 4: that means they were signed to the record label, but
Speaker 4: I wasn't. And so with our voices together and our
Speaker 4: performances together on on something they had, they had their
Speaker 4: names as the receivers, as the performers, and I didn't
Speaker 4: have mine.
Speaker 1: So your shares, my share.
Speaker 4: I was fighting for my shares, my proper shares, you know,
Speaker 4: from them. That's separate and apart from being in Sultan Pepa.
Speaker 4: Is like when you perform or when you produce, you
Speaker 4: should have your or you write, you should have your
Speaker 4: shares of yours.
Speaker 2: And so that's what I was fighting and separate from
Speaker 2: because if someone listening, they might confuse it with publishing
Speaker 2: is not publishing, because they would get there publishing for
Speaker 2: whatever they did publish.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but I did produce a couple of things
Speaker 4: for Sultan Peppa, and so I had to fight.
Speaker 1: For that as well.
Speaker 6: And you know, it was like when the end, when
Speaker 6: the end came. It was like, Okay, let's do this
Speaker 6: right then.
Speaker 4: And I didn't want to bring I didn't want it
Speaker 4: to be public, but it went public, and at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, I had to do what I
Speaker 4: had to do because I have you know, I put
Speaker 4: my blood, sweat and tears for thirty five years. Thirty
Speaker 4: five years is a lifetime. It's a lifetime. And so
Speaker 4: when you say sweat equity, you put your all into
Speaker 4: something and then to be dismissed or to be kind
Speaker 4: of put out as if you weren't there, that's the contribution.
Speaker 6: Get what you deserve and then peace out. But you know,
Speaker 6: today I'm not.
Speaker 1: Here to.
Speaker 4: You know, put They're always going to be queen's to me.
Speaker 4: They might not feel the way that I feel about
Speaker 4: but it doesn't matter to me. I'm a grown woman,
Speaker 4: I'm a queen. I'm gonna fix my sister's crime. If
Speaker 4: I can help you, I will always do that. But
Speaker 4: I'm going to fight for mine, show you how to
Speaker 4: fight it, you know, and stand up for yours. So
Speaker 4: that's what I got out of it, you know. You know,
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, I'm happy that I'm
Speaker 4: sorry that it went that way.
Speaker 3: But I had to do what I had to do
Speaker 3: for me, you know, as an outsider that's looking in,
Speaker 3: as an insider that's looking out. I feel like the
Speaker 3: mistake probably was that y'all didn't negotiate together from the beginning,
Speaker 3: because I believe that they had a contract and then
Speaker 3: you had a separate and had y'all showed that women camarbities.
Speaker 1: That word. Okay, yeah, So.
Speaker 3: If that's what I feel like, because I feel like
Speaker 3: they wasn't trying to do you wrong. I feel like
Speaker 3: they were so much trying to look out for theirself
Speaker 3: because women were being done wrong at that time, that
Speaker 3: they were so much trying to look at it for
Speaker 3: themselves that they didn't think of gotcha, you know, by
Speaker 3: the way, No, I understand.
Speaker 6: I understand that point because I tried to sit in
Speaker 6: their shoes too.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 4: And when I was talking with Pet, Pepper explained a
Speaker 4: lot to me about her situation in it and how
Speaker 4: familiar my situation is to her because she was fighting
Speaker 4: for hers too internally, so and I'm like, and you're Pepper,
Speaker 4: and well, I cannot speak for her, but I will
Speaker 4: say that she understood some of the fight that I
Speaker 4: had in fighting for your part and what you have
Speaker 4: provided and contributed, and it's just a bigger picture than
Speaker 4: what everybody thinks. And you know, as a as a writer,
Speaker 4: as a as a producer, as a performer, you you
Speaker 4: should get your share, you know what what you put
Speaker 4: into it.
Speaker 2: And you know, I'll let her speak from the sound
Speaker 2: of it, it's not just them too, it's other entities
Speaker 2: to be her regular way more than this.
Speaker 4: Well, they did have fights with Herbie about stuff, but
Speaker 4: I feel like they absolved it. But at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, I'm looking at my situation right now
Speaker 4: and I can't speak on Peppa. I wish them well,
Speaker 4: you know, and the door's always opened.
Speaker 1: We said that we would love to see you guys together,
Speaker 1: but I got it.
Speaker 4: I have to say, you have to kind of take
Speaker 4: care of you in the end, and you got to
Speaker 4: make sure you're good in order for the door to
Speaker 4: be open for us to come together again. Business got
Speaker 4: be handled. When I handle my business, my team. Shout
Speaker 4: out to my team. Team, shout out to my manager, LJ.
Speaker 4: He's been my manager. I'm a loyal person. I have
Speaker 4: the same people with me for forever. My manager LJ.
Speaker 4: He said to say how to y'all. He's been my
Speaker 4: manager for almost twenty years. So my husband, my husband Q,
Speaker 4: my daughter Christy, she's a DJ too, So you know,
Speaker 4: I'm constantly making sure she's good because she's out there,
Speaker 4: you know, just making sure she's right. Contracts and everything,
Speaker 4: but the right having the right people around you keeps
Speaker 4: you right. And so when I leave my team and
Speaker 4: then I go into Salt and Pepper, I need to
Speaker 4: make sure that's right.
Speaker 1: I know how it should be. And so.
Speaker 4: From this moment on, should a door open there again,
Speaker 4: We're gonna be good.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be good.
Speaker 4: Because all contracts will be right. We'll make sure everybody
Speaker 4: is right. And I feel like back then we didn't
Speaker 4: have the right conversations about doing that, because I did
Speaker 4: bring it up. Let's do contract, Let's do a contract.
Speaker 3: I just pect you with that and say, yo, listen,
Speaker 3: you just you need a contract or that's something you
Speaker 3: came up with.
Speaker 1: I came up okay, cool, continue, I came up with okay.
Speaker 4: And when Herbie was gone, I think when Herbie left
Speaker 4: Herbie left back in the early nineties, it was kind
Speaker 4: of like I'm just kind of floating here.
Speaker 6: I'm just kind of just floating. And I mean they
Speaker 6: they definitely.
Speaker 4: Paid me, you know when you know, when I did
Speaker 4: my gigs or whatever. But when it came to promoting
Speaker 4: and promoting the albums and pushing the albums and performing
Speaker 4: on the albums, I wasn't getting my cut, so I
Speaker 4: had to make sure I got mine, like and so
Speaker 4: that's why it took that long to do it. And
Speaker 4: when it was said and done, we settled. And when
Speaker 4: you settled, that means we're all on the same page.
Speaker 1: You know. As a kid, when I heard this, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's just the rumor. As a kid,
Speaker 1: you heard this, like, yeeah, Well, this.
Speaker 4: Is a long term situation. It's a long time were
Speaker 4: you you talking about Okay, So.
Speaker 1: I mean as a kid, though I was a kid
Speaker 1: in mind my house, like they didn't break up in
Speaker 1: the early nineties.
Speaker 4: It was no, we didn't break up in the early nineties,
Speaker 4: but you said we had issues back in the ninth
Speaker 4: early late night.
Speaker 1: Late nineties. Here I remember forty seven, forty six. I'll
Speaker 1: be forty seven next month.
Speaker 6: We're talking about twenty some years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and to me it seems like, who, yeah, that's
Speaker 4: a time it's a long time to be going through
Speaker 4: the ship, right.
Speaker 2: It's true that Herbie when he put the group together,
Speaker 2: he thought of it as the female run DMC.
Speaker 1: Yes, and and you would have been the jam master
Speaker 1: j of that run ja.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he thought he thought of Houdini.
Speaker 1: And so do you remember ever going to the Left
Speaker 1: Rock City? I do?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's crazy how this ties into the beginning
Speaker 2: of Dream Champs.
Speaker 1: Really, he's our first guest. You have no idea first
Speaker 1: recorded guests.
Speaker 3: Let me just tall you he's going to go down right,
Speaker 3: And I know your husband is here, respect and you're
Speaker 3: doing this here?
Speaker 1: Who I feel like she's related to me. Let me
Speaker 1: just tell you something.
Speaker 3: Kenny Anderson at the time was the hottest point guard
Speaker 3: in New York City. Katy Anderson, I'm from ninety seventh Street.
Speaker 3: Kny Anderson is from ninety sixth Street. He's from down
Speaker 3: the block. The hottest woman in the game ran the
Speaker 3: chain at the.
Speaker 1: Time was Spendervella. Oh so my childhood.
Speaker 3: Was Spenderella is the most beautifullest woman in the game. Really,
Speaker 3: everyone wants Spenderella. It's prober is the name. Everybody wants.
Speaker 3: Spender Weell.
Speaker 1: Jesus, everybody wants you to turn.
Speaker 3: And it was one day Kenny Anderson, we call him Chipper.
Speaker 3: He comes through my neighborhood with you. And when I
Speaker 3: tell you, that was like a goal.
Speaker 6: That was like I think, I remember, I.
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna lie. I was the little nigga like that.
Speaker 3: In case you don't know, the little dirty nigga probably
Speaker 3: didn't clean my ears.
Speaker 1: I was like, holy shit, and that shit changed my childhood.
Speaker 3: Because it made mean Katy Anderson, which I tell him this,
Speaker 3: and I tell him this off the air, and this
Speaker 3: is kind of corny.
Speaker 1: I just always say this on the air.
Speaker 3: He made me who I am one of those And
Speaker 3: one of those two days, I tell you the LA day,
Speaker 3: Remember when I first hit number one, And it was
Speaker 3: this day.
Speaker 1: This is way before I was a rapper, and he
Speaker 1: came to the hood with you.
Speaker 3: And when I tell you, every man in the hood
Speaker 3: could not take their eyes off you. I'm sorry, husband,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, husband, but it was one of the greatest
Speaker 3: moments of my life because you represented making it.
Speaker 4: Hm hmm.
Speaker 1: You have no idea what I mean.
Speaker 4: I think I could understand in the sense of just
Speaker 4: coming through and it's just like a picture of what
Speaker 4: it looks like to be success and have the right
Speaker 4: female on your arm. And you know that.
Speaker 1: Let me take you home. You were the hottest chicken game.
Speaker 1: Let's be clear. Did you not feel that? No, I
Speaker 1: did not feel like we sucked. Holy I do know
Speaker 1: that there.
Speaker 6: You know, people tell me they had crushes on me
Speaker 6: or whatever, but no, real like.
Speaker 3: I remember, like like, I'm so proud to call you
Speaker 3: my sister now, but back then, I can't deny.
Speaker 1: That like how it was like.
Speaker 6: But I do know that the fans had their favorites.
Speaker 1: I mean they had.
Speaker 4: I mean, I know that they looked at me like,
Speaker 4: you know, they had questions on me or whatever. So
Speaker 4: and I hear that a lot today, Like you know,
Speaker 4: I still got a crush on any type of thing.
Speaker 1: But no, I didn't know that. You didn't feel it.
Speaker 6: I could feel that they they loved on me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could feel that.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's one way of putting it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I completely loved it on me. I mean, not
Speaker 4: to take away from what you're saying, please, but you know,
Speaker 4: I get how, you know, people look at somebody and
Speaker 4: I remember being like, you know, just on top of
Speaker 4: the world, like Salt and Pepper and myself, we were
Speaker 4: just on top of the way. We were the girls.
Speaker 4: We was those girls back then, and you know they
Speaker 4: had their favorite. Salt was their face. You know, she
Speaker 4: had her favorites. Pep had her favorite, Spin had her favorites.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Like But to take it back to to drink Champs,
Speaker 2: Kenny was recorded guests. Yes, we didn't release it first.
Speaker 2: It was the first person that we tested this concept.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, so you you you are drinking around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm in there.
Speaker 4: I heard your interview some of the you know, the
Speaker 4: interview y'all did with Kenny, and I heard what you
Speaker 4: guys were. I don't know, y'all were talking about baby
Speaker 4: mamas and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I think that was funny. I was scared. I was
Speaker 1: scared to say your name because to this day, I'm
Speaker 1: still scared of you, like scared.
Speaker 4: From the music standpoint, I'm really proud of what we've
Speaker 4: done together. That is something that nothing, that's nothing that
Speaker 4: we can personally go through, could ever overshadow the.
Speaker 6: Purpose of what Sultan Pepper was.
Speaker 4: The Sultan Pepper, the music, the message, the importance of
Speaker 4: us and music, the importance of us and hip hop,
Speaker 4: the importance of us as women, the contribution as women
Speaker 4: to our our just our generation, and so so don't
Speaker 4: let what personal stuff color that. And that means a
Speaker 4: lot to hear you say that. But yeah, it was
Speaker 4: great times, it was interesting. Just you know, I remember
Speaker 4: that going through left Rack with Kenny. I did a
Speaker 4: lot of left Rack.
Speaker 1: I was out there.
Speaker 4: We used to actually, we used to, actually, me and
Speaker 4: Kenny used to go at it because you know, he
Speaker 4: he called the pink houses the stinkhouses, and I would
Speaker 4: call I'm sorry, y'all.
Speaker 1: It was just a joke.
Speaker 4: I would call Left Right City, left wax City.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was, it was, it was.
Speaker 1: It was a thing between me and Kenny. She's like,
Speaker 1: look at that little boy. But no, I spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time in Left Right. He did a lot.
Speaker 1: He did a lot, He did a lot for them.
Speaker 1: Not gonna lie. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie to you again.
Speaker 1: I should, I should say this to him off camera.
Speaker 3: But he kept me out of jail for years because
Speaker 3: he had a tournament called Kenny Anderson Tournament, and I
Speaker 3: would I would go there and I would play basketball,
Speaker 3: and I remember I remember one year, I'm sorry, turn
Speaker 3: it back. But I remember one year I was selling
Speaker 3: drugs and I just couldn't stop selling drugs. I was
Speaker 3: addicted to selling drugs. Even though I wasn't a good
Speaker 3: drug dealer. I was like semi, but I would get
Speaker 3: my shirt off. And the coach came to me. I
Speaker 3: can't say the coach name because he's very it's very big.
Speaker 3: The coach said to me, I know you sell drugs,
Speaker 3: but you're gonna come and play this. You gonna play
Speaker 3: this basketball. And I came in and played basketball.
Speaker 1: We want. But by the way, because of Kenny, him doing.
Speaker 3: The contributions that he did, h to the hood, his
Speaker 3: mother as well, first week fall.
Speaker 1: Rest in peace to your day you met.
Speaker 4: Her, she's as first of all my daughters here.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, immediately connected to her, Yes, my daughter.
Speaker 4: She's like she was like one of I mean, after
Speaker 4: I had Christy, I would bring her to left right
Speaker 4: and leave her with miss A and you want a shot.
Speaker 6: And miss A was just just an incredible woman. She
Speaker 6: was hard coil.
Speaker 4: She was hard on me when I first met when
Speaker 4: I first started dating Kenny, she was like, who's this bitch?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're talking about you went too fast? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true.
Speaker 2: She was.
Speaker 1: That was the first word. She was, like, who was
Speaker 1: this bitch? She was like protective of her son, but
Speaker 1: by the way you spend at the time, it's not
Speaker 1: like you care.
Speaker 4: She didn't care.
Speaker 1: I love this story.
Speaker 4: So I was very intimidated by miss saying I called
Speaker 4: him miss name was Joan, but I call I called
Speaker 4: him miss A, And she put me through the ringer
Speaker 4: to be to mess with her son.
Speaker 6: I mean, I guess you should.
Speaker 1: You know, kids just can't have any woman rolling up
Speaker 1: on your you know, in your in your home.
Speaker 3: You was his first real relationship, right, I don't know
Speaker 3: that I was his first real relationship.
Speaker 1: I believe the outside of looking at it, and I
Speaker 1: believe it was he was young. He was he was
Speaker 1: very young.
Speaker 4: He was like, come on, in his prime and he
Speaker 4: was like a superstar and oh my god, like for
Speaker 4: him to just come from where he came from to
Speaker 4: you know, just blowing up with all this money and
Speaker 4: all this like notoriety and just the fame, it was crazy.
Speaker 6: So but back to Missay, she was very protective and.
Speaker 4: I will say our relationship really got established because she
Speaker 4: you know, literally taught me like she.
Speaker 6: Was like, you know, I know, I know you love
Speaker 6: my son, because I could have ran you off a.
Speaker 1: Long time ago, girl, like you know, that is the
Speaker 1: gangst that's gangstuff.
Speaker 4: I could have you know, and but you stayed, you know,
Speaker 4: and you stayed and you you know, we didn't work out.
Speaker 4: But our daughter, you know, we had our daughter.
Speaker 1: That was a purpose. God bless God. She's my daughter.
Speaker 1: Was so beautiful and so like the best part of us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and although I just met her today, I swear to God,
Speaker 1: I feel like I know her.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you might have seen it is really young
Speaker 4: come the left brack all the time she was wit
Speaker 4: miss s. Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So our show is about giving people they flowers. From
Speaker 3: the beginning, we wanted to give you a flowers. Wanted
Speaker 3: to tell you, face to face, woman, the man, man,
Speaker 3: the woman, that how much you mean the hip hop
Speaker 3: sho this is And I want you to know how
Speaker 3: much you feel being the hip hop how much you
Speaker 3: mean to us, how much you mean to the community.
Speaker 3: We one man percent understand your plight, We understand your struggle,
Speaker 3: we understand your fight, and we got your back. And
Speaker 3: there's nothing in this world that's not going to stop us.
Speaker 3: From doing that and we want to give you.
Speaker 1: Wow, this is huge.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: My heart is real full from that because coming from
Speaker 4: where I came from and just always literally you know,
Speaker 4: I dealt with a lot of doubt, the whole stuff.
Speaker 1: I doubt it myself a lot.
Speaker 4: But to get the love that I've been getting regardless
Speaker 4: of all of that, it makes me feel again. You know,
Speaker 4: when you when you're when you when you're kind of
Speaker 4: shot down for whatever reason, when you're shot down, or
Speaker 4: when you feel that your your worth is or you're
Speaker 4: devalued or any in any of that, you don't like
Speaker 4: you deserve and you know, so to get this kind
Speaker 4: of love, I really appreciate you.
Speaker 8: All.
Speaker 3: Well, let me let me let me stop that not
Speaker 3: feeling deserved, because this is your house, this is built
Speaker 3: for you, and I'm gonna just tell you it's well deserved.
Speaker 1: Over here.
Speaker 3: You are a icon, you are a legend, and we
Speaker 3: are immortal fans over here.
Speaker 1: Immortal. I used that word before. I guess it just
Speaker 1: came out like you're mortal for using it. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna play a game real quick now' storry, Okay, I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I'd be drinking, but I did drink last episode, so
Speaker 3: and I saw Keith very I tell you you gotta
Speaker 3: talk about that.
Speaker 1: You know, me and Keith Mary had fake Keith Oh really?
Speaker 1: What happened with that? They wore taking over.
Speaker 3: I'm at Fat Joe's concert and I feel somebody like
Speaker 3: touching my leg because because by the way, I didn't
Speaker 3: go to Fat Joe concerts to perform.
Speaker 1: I went there to be a fan.
Speaker 3: And there I was like, yo, I cannot leave. I mean,
Speaker 3: I gotta leave tomorrow. And they're like why. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I gotta.
Speaker 1: Spread the brother. I said, I ain't missing this. They're like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: thank you. I hain't somebody, I said, I hear somebody.
Speaker 1: I felt somebody in my leg. I turn around.
Speaker 3: It's a guy with a bandanna, glasses and a joint
Speaker 3: and I look and I just see his eyes. I'm
Speaker 3: keeping when I tell you, I didn't tell nobody around me.
Speaker 3: I didn't say yo, whook me.
Speaker 1: I just seen some'sc and he was like, my heart,
Speaker 1: my heart, what what? What? What do you mean? That's
Speaker 1: Keith testing me if I'm lying? He said my heart,
Speaker 1: And you know what I said, my heart? I did
Speaker 1: I said, I ain't gonna because I want to. I
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 3: Testament the hip hop man. We had a misunderstanding. He
Speaker 3: thought something about me, which I liked it, but it
Speaker 3: was false. He's like, no, he's Hollywood, He's different. Now,
Speaker 3: I don't get pedicureous. Look ship, look at my nails
Speaker 3: is sucked up. I don't get pedicures.
Speaker 1: I should. I should, though, but I seen them. We talked,
Speaker 1: we worked it out.
Speaker 3: They filmed it. They film the whole time, the whole time.
Speaker 3: His people filmed it. And I never said, don't film
Speaker 3: because I wanted to document it. That don't don't don't
Speaker 3: ever say that because drink chances.
Speaker 1: We're for our legends.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 3: And the thing about it is, so many times in
Speaker 3: this game people get ten years or more and you
Speaker 3: know what they say. They say you're washed up, they
Speaker 3: say you you're dark irrelevant. Do they say that in
Speaker 3: rock and roll? Do they say that in jazz? Do
Speaker 3: they say heavy metal? They only say it's only us.
Speaker 1: It's only us. So we're gonna change that fucking narrative.
Speaker 3: If you take food from yesterday and you put it
Speaker 3: in the refrigerator and you work and you warm it
Speaker 3: up in the morning.
Speaker 1: Guess what, it's better. It's better. It's been marinated. It's
Speaker 1: been That means it's been seasoned, preserved. You young motherfuckers
Speaker 1: judging the older people. You are a pizza who just
Speaker 1: came out of gobin. It's too hot.
Speaker 4: You're too hot.
Speaker 1: The fuck often enjoy the pizza, right, my friend.
Speaker 8: He ain't gonna brought me a phenomenal pizza. I have
Speaker 8: to put salt on it and let it come up.
Speaker 8: Day got wrong, and then after that cool.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the pizza.
Speaker 3: So this is too Oh, you young motherfuckers, you're judging
Speaker 3: you one of the young one of the dumb, dumbest
Speaker 3: shits you can say as a young person, is you old?
Speaker 1: Motherfucker?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: You don't want to be old like me? One day? Idiot?
Speaker 1: The goal is not to die young, The goal is
Speaker 1: to grow to crow idiots. I guess what. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I had a moment. Let me add on to that.
Speaker 4: When someone says you're old, you're older too. We're both old. Look,
Speaker 4: you're not going backwards. We're both going up together.
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't make it. It doesn't.
Speaker 6: It's like, how am I get old and you're not.
Speaker 6: We're both growing, you know, so I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't get that the whole irrelevant thing when people
Speaker 4: say you're irrelevant, I'm like, to who you, I don't know,
Speaker 4: it's it's it's weird, you know what.
Speaker 3: I love the renaissance of hip hop right now, Right now,
Speaker 3: hip hop has grown so much, like I can like
Speaker 3: book a vacation and so max a lot would be
Speaker 3: on the fucking m the cruise line.
Speaker 1: Holy, this is dope, like hip hop has involved so much.
Speaker 3: Do you think that hip hop when you started doing
Speaker 3: it with what, for lack of a better term, whack cliche,
Speaker 3: do you think that hip hop would have came this
Speaker 3: far far?
Speaker 6: No, I didn't think about it neither.
Speaker 4: It wasn't.
Speaker 6: It was like it was not something I was thinking about.
Speaker 6: It was something I was doing.
Speaker 4: So that was like the original question back in the days,
Speaker 4: most most of US artists who were first interviewed was
Speaker 4: asked the question, what are you going to do when
Speaker 4: this is over? And I can say for me, I'm like,
Speaker 4: I don't know nothing know, So I'm just gonna keep doing.
Speaker 1: What until you know? To the wheels fall? Could that
Speaker 1: have played into the bad business nuts foreseeing it?
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, be here so long, of course, but
Speaker 4: look what it won't happen again. Experience is important. So
Speaker 4: when you get older and talk about growing, you grow
Speaker 4: with experience. And these younger you know, I feel, I
Speaker 4: feel if they ain't watching and if they ain't learning,
Speaker 4: you know, they're gonna get hit hard. I always think about,
Speaker 4: like the newer artists, like the younger generation of artists,
Speaker 4: they're gonna need therapy. Yeah, eventually, you know what, They're
Speaker 4: gonna need therapy, Ain't I right or wrong? They're not
Speaker 4: going to need Derby, they need Derby now?
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean once you come we all need therapy.
Speaker 6: Though, yeah we do.
Speaker 4: But I really, especially for the young women, it's it's
Speaker 4: not and I'm not just talking about I'm talking about
Speaker 4: I mean whoever the DJ's everything is. It's a lot
Speaker 4: to come through this. And with social media and with
Speaker 4: social media, we didn't and we didn't have social media
Speaker 4: like that. So I just feel like, yeah, get a
Speaker 4: good therapist on deck.
Speaker 6: On your team.
Speaker 1: Get a good therapist on your team. So let me
Speaker 1: ask you, because this has been a question on my mom,
Speaker 1: how did you get the names?
Speaker 4: Bendrella Spinderella was given to me Herbie Herbie. Herbie Herbie said, Okay,
Speaker 4: now it's just so you know, I know you mentioned
Speaker 4: there was a Spinderella before me. Yes, there was a
Speaker 4: Spinderella before me on the first Salt and Pepper album, Hot,
Speaker 4: Cool and Vicious, that there's a picture of another young lady.
Speaker 6: She was the first Sponderella. I don't I can't say
Speaker 6: what the story was.
Speaker 4: But they were looking for another female DJ for their
Speaker 4: first major tour, a tour initially it was a tour,
Speaker 4: and I auditioned. They you know, they heard about me
Speaker 4: and they asked me to audition. I auditioned and then
Speaker 4: I got it. So I don't know what you know,
Speaker 4: what this story is. I can't say what happened before me.
Speaker 1: But yeah, has she ever spoken out?
Speaker 4: Pretty sure she has, But I, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I know there's a story. Everybody has a story.
Speaker 1: So and is it true. Wendy Williams also tried to
Speaker 1: audition to be the.
Speaker 6: She says that too, what.
Speaker 8: Not being.
Speaker 4: It's been the relation So so Herveie was looking for
Speaker 4: originally what we said, he was looking for that N
Speaker 4: D C. J. Houdini, you know, two m season a DJ.
Speaker 4: But as females. All I know is that when I auditioned,
Speaker 4: I got it.
Speaker 1: And that's all I know. That was hard.
Speaker 4: But yes, Herbie gave me the name. But there was
Speaker 4: a Spinderella from the early eighties. Okay, I can't say,
Speaker 4: but you know, give credit where credit is due. I
Speaker 4: can't say I made the name of the story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got.
Speaker 4: I'm a collective of old ship So I bought a
Speaker 4: Spinderella doll from like the early seventies and it was her. No,
Speaker 4: it was a little it was a little white doll
Speaker 4: with blonde hair, it was, and she was spinning on
Speaker 4: a spindle or whatever. And her name was Spinder.
Speaker 1: That's where they got the name from.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I have that doll and I'm like, wow, So,
Speaker 4: and that's how old the name is, right, that is documented,
Speaker 4: so you know, And the.
Speaker 2: First Spender was the one that was before you. She
Speaker 2: comes out in one I think one single or one vinyl.
Speaker 4: That she appears on that first album, right, Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 4: But then Thomas, I can't say what happened there because
Speaker 4: I'm not right to their situation.
Speaker 2: And it's and still when you get in it's thirty
Speaker 2: plus years. Yeah, and all the success because Push It
Speaker 2: hadn't come out yet.
Speaker 4: Push It, Push It came out when I got there. Yeah,
Speaker 4: when Yeah, we did the video for it. We shot
Speaker 4: the video. As a matter of fact, the story is
Speaker 4: we were doing we were on that tour and we
Speaker 4: were on the Wipeout tours the Fat Boys, Heavy D
Speaker 4: and the Boys, Salt and Pepper, Dana.
Speaker 6: Dane and Clark Kent.
Speaker 1: DJ.
Speaker 4: Clark Kent was on it, and we weren't doing Push It.
Speaker 4: And then they were like, I guess some DJ and
Speaker 4: in either Hawaii or the Bay played push It and
Speaker 4: it just got viral.
Speaker 1: It, you know, caught fire because it was a B
Speaker 1: side of a record, right.
Speaker 4: It was the B side of Tramp Tramp Tramp, yes
Speaker 4: what you called me. And then they were like you
Speaker 4: got to play push It? And I was like all right,
Speaker 4: they gave me the vinyl and I'll drop push It.
Speaker 8: And it was like.
Speaker 4: And we we really didn't want to do that song.
Speaker 4: We thought it was a parody. Like we were like,
Speaker 4: it was, well, not a parody, but we thought it
Speaker 4: was like a funny like what's the word just being
Speaker 4: fun like fun not parody, but something you know, funny.
Speaker 1: You didn't think that at all. Well he did. It
Speaker 1: was a serious hip hop record. We didn't as in salt.
Speaker 1: And then Herbie, well these are things you want. You
Speaker 1: wanted to know.
Speaker 6: And then Herbie, Herbie you know, was like he was
Speaker 6: really behind the song.
Speaker 4: He wanted it.
Speaker 1: So it was like we gotta do, we gotta do
Speaker 1: push it.
Speaker 6: Let's you know, test it.
Speaker 5: We did.
Speaker 1: Do you realize how many movies pushing it is in?
Speaker 6: It's in a few huh every time watch I'll watch
Speaker 6: a movie and I'll be like.
Speaker 1: Shoe, So is that one of your discrepancies?
Speaker 8: Is that?
Speaker 1: Because I ain't gonna lie to you, this is full discrepancy,
Speaker 1: full disclosureloure. That's what I mean. Every time I hear
Speaker 1: a super Doug played in the movie, I get you
Speaker 1: gotta get your check. I don't get nothing. You got
Speaker 1: to get I get it next year. Next year it
Speaker 1: is my twenty five. It reverts to him. I could
Speaker 1: have brought it back. I have, uh what is it
Speaker 1: called residuals to do it, to buy it.
Speaker 3: But it's like if I wait till March, I get
Speaker 3: it back for free and then I could do business.
Speaker 3: So I'm yeah, I want to wait, but I look
Speaker 3: at like I saw Entourage the movie and then my
Speaker 3: record came on and everybody's like, hey, congratulations, and I'm
Speaker 3: looking at them like I didn't even know this ship
Speaker 3: was in there. But I'm not going to tell them
Speaker 3: that because I don't want them to know. Actually, my business.
Speaker 3: When you here pushed it, do you do you feel.
Speaker 1: Like that, Well, I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not a writer on push it, So you have
Speaker 4: to be part of the part of the SA performer.
Speaker 4: You know, Salt and Pepper Food performed that song before
Speaker 4: I joined them, so they they not performed it. They
Speaker 4: recorded it before I joined them.
Speaker 1: It just hadn't hit.
Speaker 6: It just hadn't been.
Speaker 4: It started to hit when I came in and we
Speaker 4: played it in the show. Then it started to blow up.
Speaker 4: But when you're on the song, and when you're writing
Speaker 4: on a song, or when you produce a song, that's
Speaker 4: when you should be able to collect on that.
Speaker 6: You know, Uh, what a man is a different story.
Speaker 1: What a man?
Speaker 2: What a man?
Speaker 4: If you hear what a man on a commercial or anything, man,
Speaker 4: that's a check. Yeah, let's talk about sex is another one.
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's stick with what a man? Though, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: in the studio, what happens? What is? What is? How
Speaker 1: does his magic work?
Speaker 4: Oh my god?
Speaker 6: Well I know how it worked for me.
Speaker 4: They would do their own recording and then they would
Speaker 4: call me in and I would do mine. So everybody's
Speaker 4: kind of a separate and then piece together. Yeah, everybody
Speaker 4: would be separate and piece together that particular song was done,
Speaker 4: and I you know it's been so long. Yeah, it
Speaker 4: would just be like if I recorded on a song,
Speaker 4: it'd be like, d D, can you come in at
Speaker 4: seven seven o'clock?
Speaker 1: Sorry, said, my name is d D. I love that.
Speaker 1: But they called you, they didn't call you, spend them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they call they call me d D.
Speaker 4: I call them Cheryl.
Speaker 1: I still call we.
Speaker 4: Called we called Pepa, Sandy. We call us by each other,
Speaker 4: by our first names.
Speaker 1: I don't think you never called me Victor neither. When
Speaker 1: we get pissed, be first name.
Speaker 4: That's how you know you know somebody, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 4: we call each other. But yes, it went like that
Speaker 4: when when it was time to record. And I know
Speaker 4: when I started doing I did. I didn't really know
Speaker 4: that I had the talent of rapping.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I didn't know.
Speaker 4: I was just like, all right, whatever. I was just DJing,
Speaker 4: doing my thing, and then Herbie would call me in
Speaker 4: and be like, come do the song. Oh you sound
Speaker 4: good on that. Come do this one, Come do this one.
Speaker 4: And so that's how it went. It was like, and
Speaker 4: you were writing your own stuff. I wrote, but I
Speaker 4: can't say I wrote what a man? Okay, the songs
Speaker 4: that I produced for Salt and Pepper I wrote on
Speaker 4: Fish today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's incredible. With Thomas.
Speaker 4: You explain her the rules, the rules okay. Again, is
Speaker 4: a drinking game, oh ship, Okay, you should have told
Speaker 4: me that before I started drinking.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. I said it earlier.
Speaker 1: But she has the wildest drink order in drink Champs history.
Speaker 1: I do top three. I just don't think she meant
Speaker 1: all that at once. That's why he took it. We
Speaker 1: said that he's like Hanny Ace. It was the other thing.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, yo, wake up brother, Yo, listen man.
Speaker 3: I know you see and Ship and you're trying to
Speaker 3: get somebody to go with you the Turks.
Speaker 1: But you'll her order was vodka, Hannesy, not conjact. That's
Speaker 1: what threw me off.
Speaker 3: I was like, most people say conyact and like they
Speaker 3: will say any she said, you said, Hennessy said.
Speaker 1: Is on my writer. No, I was like, I was
Speaker 1: like spinning brother on a fight because he is on
Speaker 1: my writer.
Speaker 4: That's like, it's like Hennessey privilege. That has to be privileged.
Speaker 3: See, we didn't get the privilege on Hennessy whiskey and tequila.
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 4: What do you drink?
Speaker 6: I said, I drink all of.
Speaker 1: That since when I see this order, I was like,
Speaker 1: it's going down.
Speaker 6: Yes, you got a drink?
Speaker 2: Bad?
Speaker 1: Yes, please come on, husband, can get your ass a drink.
Speaker 4: Man, Okay, you want to drink?
Speaker 1: My daughter wants to drink. Yes, please, Okay, I'm ready
Speaker 1: for the game. Okay, let's go.
Speaker 2: Actually, before we start, I want to say happy birthday
Speaker 2: to Kayla's her twenty first birthday is Charlie's daughter.
Speaker 1: Shout out to her.
Speaker 2: I told her this would be a great episode for
Speaker 2: her to come. Such a good role model to be here.
Speaker 3: Okay, Leo yo season Hey wait all right, so Leo
Speaker 3: goes and then virgos after right, Yeah, I guess you're next,
Speaker 3: aren't you?
Speaker 1: How you yeah, okay, my daughter is a virgo. You
Speaker 1: a virgo? What's your date? Is that? You? And he
Speaker 1: kept saying we related. You said, look at that, look
Speaker 1: at that. I think he thinks when he saw you
Speaker 1: in left right, I decided to have a baby on
Speaker 1: his birthday. That twins. That's why he said, I got.
Speaker 4: A connection with her. But your literal twins birthday twins?
Speaker 3: How cool is Foxy Brown?
Speaker 1: Real Foxes said I'm gonna take shout out Foxy man.
Speaker 1: We need her on here, we need foxing on whole.
Speaker 3: God let me know when now I booked up my
Speaker 3: childhood and resonated my manhood.
Speaker 1: At the same time. Okay, So we were explaining the rules,
Speaker 1: trying to this this.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie stop no more, no more, stop
Speaker 2: talking no more.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you do it. I got yours dates.
Speaker 1: Let you know this stuff. Don't talk no more. So
Speaker 1: Tember sixth, she just came out. I had no idea.
Speaker 1: I'm looking up like still.
Speaker 2: We're going to give you two choices. And this is
Speaker 2: not to pin anybody against each other. It's just random
Speaker 2: two choices. These guys over here, and we would like
Speaker 2: to drink. Yeah, and if you pick one, nobody drinks.
Speaker 2: But if you say both of them or neither of them,
Speaker 2: which would be the PC answer.
Speaker 4: Say it again.
Speaker 2: If I pick one, If you picked one, nobody drinks,
Speaker 2: nobody drinks. And if you don't pick we drink. Basically
Speaker 2: all of us, we all drink together. We're all going
Speaker 2: to get drunks.
Speaker 1: Pick one.
Speaker 2: And if you have stories with anybody, please alladin. And
Speaker 2: it's whatever the reason in your mind is. Don't it's
Speaker 2: maybe you would.
Speaker 4: Be the reason of choosing one one or one.
Speaker 1: Might be more a friend of yours. One, you might
Speaker 1: like the music, whatever it is, it's what stands out
Speaker 1: more to me.
Speaker 3: I love how she's she's never been in the resource room.
Speaker 3: You see how she's she was assessed you.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, she's like.
Speaker 3: Very clear like the house. Good tell that she's very smart.
Speaker 3: All right, By the way, all of all the guests
Speaker 3: has not been Oh all right. First one is Primo
Speaker 3: or Pete Rock.
Speaker 4: Pete Rock, And I love Primo Pete Okay, so Pete Rock,
Speaker 4: So oh yeah. I used to date Eddie f Eddief
Speaker 4: was Heavy D and the boys. When it's when I
Speaker 4: would go to Eddief's house, Heavy D would come over.
Speaker 4: They would you know, do their recording or whatever. Pete
Speaker 4: Rock would always be coming coming over there all in
Speaker 4: Mount Vernon, and Pete Rock was like a kid so
Speaker 4: and I was a kid. But it was like we both,
Speaker 4: you know, we're young and just kind of watching heavy
Speaker 4: d and the boys develop and do their thing or whatever.
Speaker 4: And Pete would be there, you know, just messing around
Speaker 4: with the drum machine Eddief's drum machine and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So I have a like, that's like a brother to me, Pete.
Speaker 1: But you picked Primo, No, I said, Pete. I said,
Speaker 1: Primo is my is my boy. But it's okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Queen of Tea for MC light take a shot.
Speaker 4: Let's take a shot.
Speaker 1: Hey man, no Lean witness bro. I just want to drink.
Speaker 1: I like, and I love both of them. I should say,
Speaker 1: I just came from New York Funk Flex or DJ
Speaker 1: Clue cheers. What what do I say? I don't know.
Speaker 1: You're gonna say nothing. You're drinking. That says enough, all right,
Speaker 1: Lady of Rage or Yo yo oh Ship. I love
Speaker 1: both of them. This is not fair. This is the
Speaker 1: name of the game. We're trying to get you drunk.
Speaker 1: This is where it all goes down there.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna make a decision.
Speaker 1: Okay, see some people do this. My Leo's sister, some
Speaker 1: Leos before Virgo right.
Speaker 4: Leo's yeah, yeah, yeah, Leo's before Virgot.
Speaker 1: Hold out Virgos.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say, yo yo, Okay, So no drinking, drinking
Speaker 6: all and Rage is going to.
Speaker 1: Actually be on that TV.
Speaker 6: She has a new movie coming out, y'all know.
Speaker 1: The Miss Cleo one Yes, didn't it come out? Is
Speaker 1: going to be Miss Yes. I saw clips.
Speaker 4: It's going to be for her.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I want to be a part of that. We
Speaker 1: need both of them on drinks. By the way, I
Speaker 1: want to watch the movie. Excuse me all right? Next one.
Speaker 2: J J Fat or Oaktown three five seven Oaktown.
Speaker 1: Three f seven really okay?
Speaker 4: Because sweet ld is my girl and she lives in Dallas.
Speaker 6: We live in Dallas. So she comes in, we hang out.
Speaker 1: Did you get you guys tour with with Hammer and them? Yes,
Speaker 1: we did that. That must have been crazy show honey Hammer?
Speaker 1: Did you say, honey, honey, that's old school ship right.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you about Let me tell you about Hamma.
Speaker 4: Hamma was put on like he was when we were
Speaker 4: on that tour. The wipe was if the White Tour
Speaker 4: it might have been. I don't know if it's the
Speaker 4: White All Tour or the other tour, but Hammer would
Speaker 4: be when we would come to the West coast, Hamma
Speaker 4: would open.
Speaker 6: By the end of the tour, Hammo was closing. So
Speaker 6: I mean, because he was that man, he was that dope.
Speaker 2: When he started on his side, he was opening, he
Speaker 2: was opening, and then by the end he was close.
Speaker 1: Jeans that's he had on the baggage. No, he had,
Speaker 1: he had a baggage. He had on a bag of.
Speaker 6: Pants the whole time though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was official performers.
Speaker 4: One of the best performers period energy I mean his
Speaker 4: dancers and Sweet Old from three four seven was one
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 1: I used to be on the side of the stage like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. They were so like.
Speaker 4: Still going after Himmer. This is this, This was our
Speaker 4: train of thought back then. Nobody wanted to go on
Speaker 4: after Himmer.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't even know what that meant. I
Speaker 1: was like, that's hard. Put you in the mix.
Speaker 2: You m TV raps are rap city? M mmm rap City? Okay,
Speaker 2: any rap City stories.
Speaker 4: I've never been on Rap City but uh, oh no,
Speaker 4: you picked Rap City, I picked and I used to
Speaker 4: love watching it. I mean I loved you know, I
Speaker 4: love the Basement. I loved you know, that was my era.
Speaker 1: How about your TV rap stories?
Speaker 2: Now, know you were one of the first, that's right,
Speaker 2: Love Doctor D and Fat Fire Freddy.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we were talking about first and then yeah, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: and we won Fat Fire Show. Okay, so yeah, tell
Speaker 1: us about that.
Speaker 4: We would we were like hip hop's darlings, I don't know,
Speaker 4: Salt and Pepper, and they would call us, you know,
Speaker 4: but MTV they you know, they loved on us.
Speaker 6: So we were a part of that earlier stage of
Speaker 6: hip hop being on TV.
Speaker 1: It was an important show. So let me ask you.
Speaker 3: This is a little off topic because we're still on
Speaker 3: Quick Thomas Slim. But you knew Tupac, correct.
Speaker 4: Yes, I met. I can't say I knew him, but
Speaker 4: he had he had he had he had a thing
Speaker 4: for Salt so so so, so your memory of Tupac
Speaker 4: was you seeing him and him saying to you we're Salt, Salt,
Speaker 4: We're your girl, like that, that type of thing. But yeah,
Speaker 4: he was in what a man video.
Speaker 1: That was like he had the hormone.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: The chain. I don't remember the vio.
Speaker 4: Yeah he did have a chain on now thinking about it,
Speaker 4: but he was turned, his body was turned.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't show his face. It was it was some
Speaker 1: political ship. Really okay, this is after he came home. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he was.
Speaker 4: According to I don't know if it was him. He
Speaker 4: had an issue with it because he wasn't shown in
Speaker 4: the video that what a man video. He was mad
Speaker 4: that he wasn't shown, right, but it had something to
Speaker 4: do it was I don't know. I can't say because
Speaker 4: it's like it's.
Speaker 1: Time of the East Coast, West Coast b No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this was this one.
Speaker 4: I was considered a bad boy and it was good girls.
Speaker 4: It was like having a bad boy and a good
Speaker 4: girl together in.
Speaker 1: That same video. Yeah, but it was like Tupac was
Speaker 1: like a bad boy, you know, and he shot the
Speaker 1: police I think this time. I think it was around
Speaker 1: that time he shot the Atlanta.
Speaker 6: It was yeah, oh yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: It was some issues around that, but I was like,
Speaker 4: should show him that. It's like sucking Tupac, you know,
Speaker 4: that's pop. But yeah, he was real sweet when when
Speaker 4: when I met him so yeah, but he was interested
Speaker 4: in sall.
Speaker 1: She's such a class act. Man, what I'm like, you
Speaker 1: want me to tell some stuff? Of course he wants
Speaker 1: you to. But I'm like a therapist that analyze people,
Speaker 1: and I'm just telling you your class. I really appreciate you.
Speaker 3: But you didn't expect anything less, So you know what,
Speaker 3: You're right, I didn't expect anything less because you're the.
Speaker 1: Next question Trina or Eve? The way you said that
Speaker 1: he's a hard and I love both of them. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to drink.
Speaker 4: I can't say. I can't say, you know, I'm trying
Speaker 4: to see what stories I have for both, but you
Speaker 4: know I have respect for both.
Speaker 1: So do you do you have any stories with any
Speaker 1: one of them? You got to take the shot, though
Speaker 1: I did. It's called drink champs, not sick champs. Jamie.
Speaker 1: You can make you have the ill drink order. Ever
Speaker 1: many more questions have we got? That's we got. We
Speaker 1: got questions for you. Okay, that's what I'm taking about
Speaker 1: that we've been having. I am not a champell you
Speaker 1: right now. I'm not a champ. No, but your drink
Speaker 1: order is a chance. Like when I looked at it,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, whiskey vodka.
Speaker 3: And what's the other one. It's the third one, tequila tequila.
Speaker 3: I said tequila Hennessy. Who scared me? I said it earlier,
Speaker 3: but she said Hennessy when people people usually say kanyak.
Speaker 3: When you say Hennessy, that means you aren't fight. Everybody
Speaker 3: who drinks Hennessy.
Speaker 1: They don't do that for me. It doesn't do that
Speaker 1: for Hennessy calms you down nowhere.
Speaker 4: No, when I drink Hennessee, I'm gonna rock a motherfucker party,
Speaker 4: I know that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was it was on my rider. I
Speaker 1: don't even drink it like that anymore.
Speaker 3: This is this is fad, fad, your facetiming. Let's see
Speaker 3: if you see if you pick up yeah, every time
Speaker 3: we feel he loves to.
Speaker 1: Be on drinks chance, Let's see. Yeah, we got spreading Norella.
Speaker 3: We got spread on drinking all right, you got the
Speaker 3: green bottle? Hold on, say how to Sprinderella, Say how
Speaker 3: to Sprenderella.
Speaker 1: Hey, Joe, I'm good in here with the antics right now.
Speaker 6: The Shenanigans.
Speaker 1: Cool, It could never be. Nobody can duplicate that. And
Speaker 1: the women power that you have, it's unlivable.
Speaker 4: I've been on shows that you guys, we it'sn't ten
Speaker 4: thousand people and it's been nine thousand, nine hundred.
Speaker 1: Women, right, I've never seen up. No, Well, yeah, we've
Speaker 1: got the women love. We got the women love. Thank you, bro,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: Don't be dishonest. No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't listen.
Speaker 3: I flew up for Joe. He's getting the key to
Speaker 3: the city, so I flew up. But I wouldn't miss
Speaker 3: this for nothing. Really, I really really wanted to give
Speaker 3: you your flowers. I really want you to know how
Speaker 3: important you are the hip hop and your legacy. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying you your legacy with stain people. I'm saying
Speaker 3: your legacy by yourself, because you have a legacy like.
Speaker 1: Just like me and e f N.
Speaker 3: Like ef N has a legacy with me, then I
Speaker 3: have a legacy with Capone, and then I have a
Speaker 3: legacy up here, and e f N has a legacy
Speaker 3: with me that he has a legacy up here.
Speaker 4: Everybody's at their own journey, and.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about your journey.
Speaker 3: And in case you don't know this, it's my job
Speaker 3: to reiterate this and tell you how important you are.
Speaker 3: Our community are I wanted to say Illuminati, but then
Speaker 3: it were kind of like this guy, I don't know
Speaker 3: our fraternity is a fraternity.
Speaker 1: That's better than.
Speaker 3: Is a fraternity that because I don't know about that community.
Speaker 2: You're a good with community community, all right, culture, I'm trying.
Speaker 3: To be smarter than Okay. I feel you though, really
Speaker 3: really love the way that you paved for our generation.
Speaker 1: Is that cool? My community generation is better? That works?
Speaker 4: Okay, Before we continue to came, I just want to
Speaker 4: let y'all know because I kept saying, I remember this,
Speaker 4: this this concept of me coming on here had to
Speaker 4: be a couple of years now, and I was like,
Speaker 4: I don't think i'm ready. I don't think i'm ready.
Speaker 4: I kept saying, I'm not ready. I don't know, you know,
Speaker 4: and I don't know what made it different this time.
Speaker 4: I guess if it's like, you know what, fuck it,
Speaker 4: it's fun. Yeah, just come have fun because I always
Speaker 4: feel like I have to have some ship going on,
Speaker 4: you know, but this is this is your conversation is
Speaker 4: important to me, and you guys have made me feel
Speaker 4: very warm today.
Speaker 6: I just wanted to be very comfortable.
Speaker 1: I don't want to have to like I'm doing this,
Speaker 1: I'm doing that, I'm working. I'm still working everybody.
Speaker 4: But I love that you guys are just like, let's
Speaker 4: have a good conversation, have a good conversation, but let's
Speaker 4: own let's also give you a flowers because I'm gonna
Speaker 4: be honest with you.
Speaker 3: I am an artist. I'm not a DJ, but artists
Speaker 3: and DJs we always like, we'll do this ship if
Speaker 3: we wouldn't get no money. And some of us are liars.
Speaker 3: We wouldn't do this if he was getting no money.
Speaker 3: But then the ones that are doing it, we should
Speaker 3: be saluted because it's a horrible job. You can never
Speaker 3: take your face off. You can never go to ups
Speaker 3: and send the package and say I'm not spending brother
Speaker 3: no more.
Speaker 1: There's somebody back Bran.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be like, I know I love her, and
Speaker 3: that ship deserves to be warranted. Like you can't like
Speaker 3: your fan is my friend. I know he hates fans,
Speaker 3: I can I know he never said it to me,
Speaker 3: He's never said it, he's never said I don't. I
Speaker 3: know he hates fans, but we can't fight it. The
Speaker 3: thing is we are who we are.
Speaker 2: Let's go back because it's a long time.
Speaker 9: Slash took the wrong part of the picked up the
Speaker 9: fire all right, robbas or follow mc robb and rest
Speaker 9: in peace. Easy rock, Yes, Rob.
Speaker 6: Robbase, he has a great state show.
Speaker 1: Everybody to say Missy or Lauren Hill, Oh my.
Speaker 6: God, I love both of them, but I'm gonna say Missy.
Speaker 1: She's not drinking anymore.
Speaker 4: I'm saying I'm gonna say no, but it's true. I
Speaker 4: love I mean, I love Laurence Hill, but I gotta
Speaker 4: say Missy. Missy is my like. I look up to
Speaker 4: Missy like, oh my god, she's beyond just hip hop.
Speaker 4: She's beyond just you know, a female artist. She's iconic now.
Speaker 1: That's iconic to me. And and her talent is her
Speaker 1: show right now is phenomenal.
Speaker 6: I know I haven't gotten to it. I haven't gotten
Speaker 6: to I've been doing my thing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Busta, Missy and Sierra's all onto. Wow.
Speaker 3: Your Busta definitely told me about yesterday. Yeah, shout out
Speaker 3: to miss you ain't come to my tour alone.
Speaker 1: It's still going though. I mean to day they do.
Speaker 2: Beastie boys are fat boys. Fat boys any stories with
Speaker 2: either of them. Yeah, the Fat Boys, Oh my god.
Speaker 4: That was the first major tour Salt, Pepper, Sponderrella went
Speaker 4: on Boys. That's what when I auditioned was so Pepper
Speaker 4: was for that tour, the Fat Boy's Tour and my
Speaker 4: first show with Salt and Pepper, My first show with
Speaker 4: Salt and Pepper. Let me have a drink.
Speaker 1: Drink, I'm drink my first My first show was with
Speaker 1: Salt and Pepper.
Speaker 4: Salt and Pepper had to do a song called I
Speaker 4: Desire and all I had to do was drop a
Speaker 4: desire and it went like this, we're on a mission.
Speaker 4: This and all the opposition mcs, this is my butcher
Speaker 4: kissing because I desire and I didn't drop it.
Speaker 6: Oh, I did not drop I did not drop it.
Speaker 6: I was so scared.
Speaker 1: I was like, because this is the first tour you're on.
Speaker 4: It's the first show I've ever shown on the first tour,
Speaker 4: which was Fat Boy's Tour. And why was everybody on
Speaker 4: the side heavy d and the boys, the Fat Boys
Speaker 4: cracking up?
Speaker 1: They dropped the ball. Well, they that's a big part
Speaker 1: that the crowd didn't know. The crowded.
Speaker 4: The crowd didn't know and so and Pepper did really
Speaker 4: well in covering it. They was like, I desire you desire,
Speaker 4: spin you desire. I was like, we got the map.
Speaker 1: And eventually we got off the stage.
Speaker 4: Well, I got to drop the song, but I was
Speaker 4: done after that. And on the side, the Fat Boys
Speaker 4: Markie d with kuk Ski and buff rest in.
Speaker 1: Peace one is we need him to come on the
Speaker 1: show Man.
Speaker 4: They was cracking up on the side and at that
Speaker 4: point I was like, I want to go home. I said,
Speaker 4: I don't want to be spending rella no more.
Speaker 1: I don't want to because it was so bad.
Speaker 4: It was so bad, but.
Speaker 1: We got through it.
Speaker 4: They didn't laugh no more after that because he was
Speaker 4: on somehow I figured it out and I dropped it
Speaker 4: on point and look where we you know, we got.
Speaker 2: There, so we don't have to drink to that, okay,
Speaker 2: jam Master J or Doctor Dre jam rest in Peace stories.
Speaker 1: Just he was just a real cool dude. You know.
Speaker 4: I got to be around him in his uh, in
Speaker 4: his space when he was producing. My boy Stanley Brown,
Speaker 4: who's a producer. I don't know if you guys who
Speaker 4: know who Stanley is, He's a big time producer, brought
Speaker 4: me to he was producing with jam Master J. When
Speaker 4: when Jay was doing his stuff and brought me around
Speaker 4: to of the sessions or whatever, and I just got
Speaker 4: to see him at work. So yeah, I'm just he's
Speaker 4: one of my favorites. Yeah, mess the blueprint from me,
Speaker 4: and you have your own academy, right like, Like, well, no,
Speaker 4: I did some clinics.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't have an academy. I wanted to, but I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't get to get it off the ground. But
Speaker 4: yes I do.
Speaker 6: I do spin clinics every so often.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's dope clinics. J clinics rock Kim or karas one.
Speaker 1: That's hard going down. She's just so y'all really going in. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm like looking all right.
Speaker 2: Serrato or turntables, I mean nuts, Why would you say
Speaker 2: turntablesto or vinyl? No Serato or vinyl vinyl because you're
Speaker 2: gonna use Serrato on turntables, guys. Okay, okay, hold on,
Speaker 2: that's collector.
Speaker 6: I'm a collector of vinyl. So yes, vinyl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen to my detrimental. My favorite DJs all time
Speaker 1: and since it went digital.
Speaker 2: Is not DJs really, I mean DJ offic is my studio.
Speaker 2: I've done some gigs, but I stopped doing what I
Speaker 2: was doing. How active I was before. I didn't do
Speaker 2: a transition.
Speaker 1: DJ right like one of my parties, I'll get together
Speaker 1: and I don't.
Speaker 4: Think, can't know.
Speaker 2: It was a different thing to me, the culture of
Speaker 2: Vinyl DJ going through the records quickly, knowing just by
Speaker 2: the artwork really quick, grabbing the record, you.
Speaker 1: The label, and going this is just a whole thing.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't miss carrying the crates. I still have a
Speaker 1: lot of my records. But is it going for you?
Speaker 6: I mean it's not. You don't do it anymore at.
Speaker 1: All at the crib office in the studio.
Speaker 6: Do you know Vinyl is making a comeback.
Speaker 1: I have all my.
Speaker 2: Vinyl Okay, I have all my records and I still
Speaker 2: do mixes put out if Yeah, I don't know people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just know.
Speaker 2: I know, like for example, we have Dante's here and
Speaker 2: yeah that's all Vinyl, but yeah that was.
Speaker 4: Are you going to do a set? You gotta do it,
Speaker 4: and if you do it, I'm gonna do one. I'll
Speaker 4: I'll be I guess on it. They've called me to
Speaker 4: do it. I just I should have probably reach out
Speaker 4: to them since I'm here this time, but they did
Speaker 4: reach out to me to get me to do it.
Speaker 6: So so I don't do a lot of vinyl sets
Speaker 6: I was.
Speaker 4: I used to do this thing called Fresh forty fives
Speaker 4: for me and my DJ crew in Dallas would come
Speaker 4: together every once and once one Thursday out of a
Speaker 4: month and we would just play all forty fives And
Speaker 4: it is the best ship ever. And nothing has been
Speaker 4: as rewarding as that feeling of playing vinyl after you
Speaker 4: do these parties and use the technology, which I love.
Speaker 4: You know, I get paid that way, but it's when
Speaker 4: it's when vinyl plays for me.
Speaker 1: It's just different. It's just different. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So the fact that you are a collector and you
Speaker 4: still have all your vinyl, you should be definitely that's
Speaker 4: just me.
Speaker 2: No, Well, Dante's you heard Rich Medina, who's a part
Speaker 2: of Dante's Rich.
Speaker 6: Give me a call.
Speaker 1: J T.
Speaker 6: Donaldson, give me a call.
Speaker 4: Let me know.
Speaker 1: I'm bringing We're gonna we're.
Speaker 6: Gonna get together.
Speaker 1: Bring I'm gonna bring a bag.
Speaker 3: I want my friend and I'm not gonna make out
Speaker 3: of the eye contact with I like my friend. DJ
Speaker 3: E Finn never called him Erican in my life and
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna call him eric and I don't care.
Speaker 1: Well, I actually didn't. I did use. I was using
Speaker 1: with him.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 1: One of my last things that I was doing was
Speaker 1: a tour DJ with him. We did Canada. I remember,
Speaker 1: I did you attractor on that? But that I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't like it. No, you don't like Serado either. No,
Speaker 1: it's just different for me. It's different. He's a vinyl guy.
Speaker 1: But but but let me ask you that this is
Speaker 1: a DJ.
Speaker 3: People like him, all right, he has Drake Champs, he
Speaker 3: has all the other things going on. But what happens
Speaker 3: to a DJ that's like him that says I only
Speaker 3: want to do vinyl.
Speaker 6: There's plenty of places to do vinyl here.
Speaker 10: No, it has made it a research, it's a feeling.
Speaker 10: So when you it's coming back, you said, but I'm out.
Speaker 10: Then when it just happened, then then like when you say, then,
Speaker 10: what's then?
Speaker 1: Like I'm talking about you know before before it came back.
Speaker 1: You know what happened to one of my last gigs.
Speaker 1: I went to Orlando do a gig. Bors was with me.
Speaker 2: I don't know where borses at. I go to the club,
Speaker 2: everybody's on Serado. Then it goes now now I'm going
Speaker 2: to go with my vinyl set and I brought.
Speaker 1: My mixer, and it's a difference for them to switch.
Speaker 1: Everybody looked at me, like you ruin. I get you.
Speaker 1: That's the hardest thing. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't. I like you do not believe
Speaker 4: that mixing vinyl with a regular technique, you know, like
Speaker 4: controllers and hardware whatever goes together. For some reason, I
Speaker 4: feel like, if you're going to do a vinyl situation,
Speaker 4: stick with that vibe.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna do utilize the.
Speaker 4: Technology in any kind of way, do that vibe because
Speaker 4: it is two different sounds, and audience wise, they're probably
Speaker 4: gonna want to either this or that.
Speaker 1: That's just how I feel about it.
Speaker 2: So and no shade too, because like, for example, my
Speaker 2: boy DJ Craze I think is one of the best
Speaker 2: DJs in the world. He utilizes he was dope on
Speaker 2: vinyl and he's even better using the technology.
Speaker 1: And I do both too.
Speaker 4: I just I just feel like I don't know if
Speaker 4: I would want to do at the same time. So
Speaker 4: my daughter's djaying now and I'm me and her going
Speaker 4: to do a mom and me party?
Speaker 6: A mom and me?
Speaker 1: Where is that?
Speaker 4: She she she has a residency and she has a
Speaker 4: few residencies in Dallas and she has her own night.
Speaker 1: What's the mom and mom and me?
Speaker 4: Is like, she's going to bring her mom so I can.
Speaker 6: DJ with her?
Speaker 1: But what what? What date?
Speaker 4: What's the date? But August thirty, August thirty first in Dallas.
Speaker 4: It's called Lady Love. It's a spot she does and
Speaker 4: she rocks parties, right, and I.
Speaker 1: Could make that you would come?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, yes, that's that's the idea is for me to DJ.
Speaker 6: But I'm like, do I use Vinyl? Can I use vinyl?
Speaker 1: And she you know she used? She used?
Speaker 6: I asked her if I can use for her party?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So it's but I don't know.
Speaker 6: She uses the technology and me using vinyl.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure how that's going to work.
Speaker 1: But have four turntable setups, like two different setups.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I still remember me doing vinyl and her
Speaker 4: doing c DJs is one thing working. Tomorrow Me and
Speaker 4: her are playing live tomorrow. Yeah yeah, yeah, me and
Speaker 4: my daughter's playing live tomorrow.
Speaker 1: What what day is tomorrow? Tomorrow? This quick time with slide.
Speaker 2: I've been living a rough fla alright, next one, Jazzy
Speaker 2: Joyce or Coco Chanel.
Speaker 1: Take a shot. No, thank you Joyce. Okay, she's the
Speaker 1: blueprint too. Yes.
Speaker 6: Most of the time, when you mentioned.
Speaker 4: The pivotal DJ female DJs, you're going to say Joyce, Spinderella,
Speaker 4: and Coco Chanel, as in, there's so many female DJs
Speaker 4: out there, but.
Speaker 6: That tear Joyce. I met Joyce.
Speaker 4: On one of those earlier tours and she was so
Speaker 4: I didn't know who she was and Jazzy Joyce and
Speaker 4: Eddie f was my boyfriend at the time, and he
Speaker 4: goes and I got jealous because he was talking to
Speaker 4: Joyce and I was like, you know, I was like.
Speaker 1: Who's that.
Speaker 4: Who are you talking to? And you know, I had
Speaker 4: an attitude with him, and he was like, that's fucking
Speaker 4: Jazzy Joyce. And I was like, oh, Ship, I had
Speaker 4: never really met anybody that does what I do and
Speaker 4: it was her.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Oh yeah, God damn big Jazzy Joyce. Ready
Speaker 1: to drink to bring over absolutely redd Aler or kick
Speaker 1: Capri Ship.
Speaker 6: Come are you doing this?
Speaker 1: Like skin ship for this? Who did this? These guys
Speaker 1: are there? Respect? To both.
Speaker 4: I'm going to take a drink on that because I can't.
Speaker 1: I've been waiting to take a shot. She's getting so old,
Speaker 1: all right, e p M. D Ornaughty by Nature? Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say naughty by nature? Any stories because trash was.
Speaker 3: Dave Peppah, Yeah, I'm sorry, I made up.
Speaker 1: I've been around them a.
Speaker 6: Lot, I'll say that.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well i've been around that.
Speaker 3: What I'm like, I'm like a half a therapist. So
Speaker 3: when she said that, she's like around and you can
Speaker 3: just see her thoughts. You can just see it.
Speaker 1: You didn't see that. She was just thinking about everything.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at her, like, no more drinks over here,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm picking somebody, don't worry, somebody getting paid.
Speaker 11: I'm looking at you and you're thinking about like you
Speaker 11: just there's tons and tons of stories and thoughts, trust me,
Speaker 11: Peppa and tre Or just period, just period, period, just period.
Speaker 1: Do you I'm sorry?
Speaker 4: I know Thomas my brother dj My brother is DJing
Speaker 4: for trench right now. Yes, so tretches out on the road,
Speaker 4: doing you know anything? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I went I went to the that's.
Speaker 6: My brother DJing behind truck.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I went to the.
Speaker 6: DJ boone shoutout, dj J, do.
Speaker 1: We take a shot for d J boy. I feel
Speaker 1: like I feel like that it's warrant and it's his
Speaker 1: birthday to I got you, I gotta, I.
Speaker 12: Gotta, I gotta, I gotta right analog or digital, which
Speaker 12: is kind of like we're already just where my heart is,
Speaker 12: all right?
Speaker 1: Cool or DJ Hollywood, Oh wow, Well.
Speaker 4: Give it up for her because hip hop is here
Speaker 4: because of him. So I'm gonna say her.
Speaker 2: So I don't have to cheat, I don't have to drink,
Speaker 2: and we on the fifty first anniversary exactly.
Speaker 1: No, it's crazy, all right. The source of Double Legs.
Speaker 4: L I'm gonna say the source because I was at
Speaker 4: that show when when Snoop was like New.
Speaker 1: York ain't got no. I was there. That's a moment.
Speaker 1: That was a huge moment there.
Speaker 4: I saw. I saw when Sugar was on that stage,
Speaker 4: like you know, I was in that room. Oh my god,
Speaker 4: it was crazy. We was like this something.
Speaker 1: Pepper and Me was like this, they're gonna go It's
Speaker 1: gonna go down. It's gonna go down.
Speaker 4: Like it was rough, didn't feel like for sure was
Speaker 4: forwards itself was rough.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, back then I met, but it was it
Speaker 2: was it was entertaining, but it was rough, but it
Speaker 2: was so important at that time.
Speaker 4: It was but you saw it when the beefs were happening,
Speaker 4: and you just knew something's going to go down.
Speaker 1: It's the first time people are seeing each other.
Speaker 2: There was no social media, so this is where they're
Speaker 2: going to see each other at I just to try. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he tries to get me heroin all the time. No,
Speaker 2: thank you, grand Master Flash or Grand Master Theodore.
Speaker 6: Oh wow, respect to both of them.
Speaker 1: Yo, yo, that's good.
Speaker 6: Is a drink ship, right, drink chack.
Speaker 2: Hm and drink champs, Just so you know what it means.
Speaker 2: It's not how bad you get tonight. It's how you
Speaker 2: wake up in the morning. If you can function the
Speaker 2: next day, that's the drink champ. You can pass out
Speaker 2: right now, but as long as you wake up in
Speaker 2: the morning and work.
Speaker 3: By the way, I just want to throw this out
Speaker 3: there because you know, my flight was delayed, so I'm
Speaker 3: looking at him like, where'd you want to privates?
Speaker 1: Just delayed? I was doing somebody else's private I'm not there.
Speaker 3: I'm not ship. So they said, said Spina has something
Speaker 3: to do after this. That yeah, because it's your drink order.
Speaker 3: He's obsessed with your drink list. He's did you have
Speaker 3: something to do for the best of them? Now, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm like, wait a minute, she ordered going after this,
Speaker 3: So he said exactly what he said. I don't think
Speaker 3: you go anywhere after that whiskey and the killer. I
Speaker 3: was like, I put those all four combinations together. I'm
Speaker 3: like that that you gotta give. You want to you
Speaker 3: want to pop.
Speaker 1: Ace, Not really, I can take one with me.
Speaker 3: No, of course you can't. You can take as much
Speaker 3: as you want, because you know why you want something.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 3: You know, He's like, wink because because our show is
Speaker 3: your show. I just want you to know that one
Speaker 3: main percent. If you want to promote pink Lemon seals.
Speaker 1: Want to say toenails this time now, we're just trying
Speaker 1: to change it. I mean, is this normal?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 1: This is this is normal? We love the drinks or
Speaker 1: the talking, just the drinks is normal. Just say you something.
Speaker 3: The love is not okay, this love that we have
Speaker 3: for you, we are so excited. We were so excited
Speaker 3: that you accepted to come to us and tell your
Speaker 3: story that we are about to say a word that
Speaker 3: I don't know what it means. Say manically. We might
Speaker 3: have to make a drink chance for book.
Speaker 1: Let's use it. Yes, yes are you? Yes? Next one
Speaker 1: Buck diamond D shout out the book wild.
Speaker 4: Or diamond D okay, taking into place Diamondy. I just
Speaker 4: actually he reached out to diamond D because he did this.
Speaker 4: I feel like he did this compilation that I was
Speaker 4: looking for. Yeah, he put out an album. He put
Speaker 4: out some stuff, right yeah, and I've been looking for
Speaker 4: it and I found out it was him, and I
Speaker 4: reached out to him. So I'm gonna say, diamond.
Speaker 1: D okay, this is very easy. Podcast or radio.
Speaker 6: Today is National Radio Day?
Speaker 1: Is it today?
Speaker 4: Was it yesterday?
Speaker 1: You guys are around here? No word? Podcast Radio Day.
Speaker 6: I used to do radio. I used to do radio.
Speaker 1: I was on for a while. Yeah, I was on.
Speaker 4: I had my own syndicated radio show back in two
Speaker 4: thousand and six, and it was called The back Spin
Speaker 4: Spin Cycle Radio, and then I then I changed it
Speaker 4: to the back Spin.
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna say radio.
Speaker 1: Okay, not mad at that. A tribe called quest or
Speaker 1: Day call Quest and I loved saw ship.
Speaker 4: I'm drinking.
Speaker 1: Wait for us.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it's not tasting good anymore. It's getting harsher,
Speaker 4: it's getting harsher. Yeah, we're close, we're close.
Speaker 1: I see the end. Help Little Kim or REMI ma, oh.
Speaker 4: Wow, this is hard Jesus. I'm gonna say little Kim
Speaker 4: because I don't know. Little Kim did something for me
Speaker 4: with females and hip hop way back when. I just
Speaker 4: feel like she just kind of took that ship like
Speaker 4: let me just and I was like, oh she she Wow,
Speaker 4: she's crazy, but I like her, you know, so Yeah,
Speaker 4: Little Kim.
Speaker 1: N w A or public enemy mm hmm.
Speaker 6: N w A or public public enemy.
Speaker 1: All right. Rhapsody or Bahamada ship really pinning two different generations.
Speaker 4: It's like it's like the seed of Bahamadia is rhaps
Speaker 4: respect respect to Bahamaedia, one of like like to me,
Speaker 4: she's one of like those mcs that's like unsung, and
Speaker 4: Rhapsody to me is unsung today in a way that
Speaker 4: she's kind of creeping in there.
Speaker 1: Her new stuff is amazing.
Speaker 6: Amazing, amazing.
Speaker 4: I had my own Rhapsody for for a long time,
Speaker 4: and I remember I was like, like I would think
Speaker 4: she's probably she should be out on top of the
Speaker 4: situation more than she is. But maybe it's because of
Speaker 4: what people are demanding, you know, out there right now.
Speaker 4: But I'm going to say, rhapsody.
Speaker 1: How about you drink? You can take a drink of.
Speaker 6: You would take a drink, it's right there.
Speaker 1: Eric abad or at Leasta keys Ship. Eric, we were
Speaker 1: a small instance. I didn't. That would have been a
Speaker 1: little weird if you would be like, yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 8: I did not.
Speaker 1: I did not, did you. We try to get a
Speaker 1: hold of it. We get.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 3: We wanted to have it on drinks for everybody to smell.
Speaker 3: I even told my wife to order it. I was like,
Speaker 3: but you got to get it. Before she looked at
Speaker 3: what it was called. She was like, you are we
Speaker 3: ordering Eric pussy?
Speaker 4: The real thing?
Speaker 1: We just wore black colture. Baby, I'm sorry I went
Speaker 1: too far.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, and that is the last one. Give her
Speaker 3: the last the last one? All right, there's one more, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: loyalty or respect.
Speaker 4: Today?
Speaker 6: Respect?
Speaker 1: I used to do the loyalty thing. Tell us why.
Speaker 6: Loyalty will get you.
Speaker 1: Fucked up.
Speaker 4: It will get you fucked up, and it's good to
Speaker 4: be that. Never give up who you are if you're
Speaker 4: a loyal type or whatever. But remember respect is more
Speaker 4: important because you'll be respecting yourself. When you command respect,
Speaker 4: you're respecting yourself so you can be loyal and people
Speaker 4: could just walk all over that and you'll be hurting
Speaker 4: the end. But respect, it's like you command that. I'm
Speaker 4: giving it. I'm going to receive that.
Speaker 1: Respect.
Speaker 4: I'm picking respect.
Speaker 3: I still want to take a shot. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 3: was supposed to say a shot, but I really.
Speaker 1: And we're done with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really, you know, you know what I really wanted.
Speaker 3: I really want you to know how much hip hop
Speaker 3: love it. Because the thing is like I've been studying
Speaker 3: you for studying, studying since you went to Left Rack.
Speaker 3: Remember he's been studying since then. You know what, You're right,
Speaker 3: You're very true. And one of the reasons why me
Speaker 3: and EF and started it is because started this. It's
Speaker 3: like we want to pay respect to our legends, and sometimes,
Speaker 3: very seldomly we realize our legends don't don't understand how
Speaker 3: important they are.
Speaker 1: Their impact their legacy, they impact their legacy with you,
Speaker 1: I'm in between. Do you know how important you are
Speaker 1: to people like us people? Do you understand today? I
Speaker 1: do okay.
Speaker 4: You know, I was in my own way, I think,
Speaker 4: dealing with my own self worth, and I kind of
Speaker 4: got to the point where I'm like, I deserve to
Speaker 4: be you know, the love I give it, so I
Speaker 4: deserve it back. But my husband tells me that all
Speaker 4: the time. You know, do you understand you know how
Speaker 4: major you you are. I'm just DEDI that, you know,
Speaker 4: right to my family, to my loved ones, and that's
Speaker 4: always first to me. And when I step out, I
Speaker 4: put the hat, the spin hat on the gear or whatever.
Speaker 1: But I get it now, I get what I get it.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 1: You're really Poli. But you're really like.
Speaker 3: I said it earlier, and I said it like from
Speaker 3: like a guy standpoint, and I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: guys had you on that day. But now let's think
Speaker 3: about the girls, especially a girl DJ coming up.
Speaker 1: You're in there.
Speaker 3: It's huge, So you're in their bathroom for real, Like
Speaker 3: I was playing around early in.
Speaker 1: The top of the bathroom though.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're in the room. They're in their room. That
Speaker 1: ship is so like to me, it's so dope because.
Speaker 3: You know, obviously we watched Wakanda, right, and I know
Speaker 3: everyone's probably looking at me like what this is bringing Waconda?
Speaker 1: But Wakanda is not fake. Waconda is based on real reality.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: And if we was the base Wakanda on a real
Speaker 3: life place, who would be the DJ?
Speaker 1: Me? I'll be up in there? You and Jazzy motherfucking Jazzy. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's huge.
Speaker 6: He's one of my favorites.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they don't kill that. I feel like I
Speaker 1: killed that. I felt like I was like that was hard. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: no no, but but funk that. I'm playing around. But
Speaker 1: I'm not playing around. That's real.
Speaker 3: Like all the guests that we have, if I was
Speaker 3: to tell them your last party of your life, who
Speaker 3: would be the DJ?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I.
Speaker 3: Guarantee you and if you want me to do it,
Speaker 3: I will prove it to you. They would say spend
Speaker 3: the Wether or Jesse.
Speaker 4: Really, I don't hear it like that. I'm sorry, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't let mean brush I appreciate that. That's crazy?
Speaker 1: Are you crazy? You don't know that?
Speaker 6: I don't know that?
Speaker 8: Do I know?
Speaker 1: I love our humble legends? You you you mean saying that.
Speaker 2: That is.
Speaker 1: That's magical? Don't give a what are you drinking and
Speaker 1: get one another one.
Speaker 4: I look up to Jazz Jeff. When you talk about
Speaker 4: when you pay me when I am in the same
Speaker 4: I guess on that line with the great people that
Speaker 4: I look up to, it's wild to me. So as
Speaker 4: wild as it you think it is, trust me, I'll
Speaker 4: be like, but.
Speaker 1: It's wild that you don't see yourself there. Let me
Speaker 1: just say something to you. That's what everyone tests about you.
Speaker 1: M you are and by the way, I want to
Speaker 1: because I don't want to label it female. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Because we labeled female, it kind of brings it down,
Speaker 1: it minimizes it, right you and thank you for that.
Speaker 1: One of the ellist DJs.
Speaker 3: Ever And now who did I say, Jazz Jeff, that's crazy,
Speaker 3: but you know who texts me just now.
Speaker 1: In my mind damn messag Jet mm hmm and damn
Speaker 1: Master j just told me. No, it's not Jasey j
Speaker 1: It's me. I'm getting deep you get indeed, indeed.
Speaker 6: Indeed, but that's how you see it.
Speaker 4: It's like it's because.
Speaker 1: You know, it took me to get out of the
Speaker 1: kind of like the rap game to understand that I was.
Speaker 3: I wasn't ship without the DJ. I wasn't nothing to
Speaker 3: this day, my DJ butch Rock, I don't want to.
Speaker 1: Fat Joe.
Speaker 3: I just went to Bad Joe's concert. I didn't even
Speaker 3: know it was a concert. I thought it was a
Speaker 3: fucking Keys to the City. And then I performed, and
Speaker 3: my DJ literally called me. It was like, you performed
Speaker 3: without me?
Speaker 8: God?
Speaker 1: Right, how you go do that?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: But it makes me just reiterate what happens, and the
Speaker 3: DJ is really the most important part of hip hop.
Speaker 1: To me, now that I can see it. No, it
Speaker 1: is now that I could get out of it and
Speaker 1: watch it and appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amazing to be paired with those greats. It's
Speaker 4: wild to me because I still remember that day that
Speaker 4: I did not drop the song. I just all of
Speaker 4: that plays in my head still in my life, and
Speaker 4: when I'm like talking with Jeff.
Speaker 1: And I'll be like, damn, that's the fucking jazzy Jeff.
Speaker 4: It's wild to me.
Speaker 1: You look at Jesse, Jeff. Do you know how Jesse
Speaker 1: Jeff probably looks as you. I don't know that.
Speaker 4: I don't know that, but you know, I remember saying,
Speaker 4: Jeff on the side watching me play, and.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, mother, Jeff's to yourself.
Speaker 1: This is just me.
Speaker 4: He stood there and he was watching me play. This
Speaker 4: is the wildss feel. Speak somebody that you look up to,
Speaker 4: checking you out to see how you I said, let
Speaker 4: me get my ship together.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it is a wild feeling. But I guess
Speaker 6: that's my.
Speaker 1: Humility.
Speaker 6: That's just who I am. You know, it's who I am.
Speaker 3: So so let me ask you a question. We have
Speaker 3: never asked this question, and I've never asked this this way. So, Pepper,
Speaker 3: where were they at.
Speaker 1: Listen to this interview? What would you say to them?
Speaker 4: Hm hmm.
Speaker 6: Well I would say, let's give the people what they want.
Speaker 4: And I also would say we have work to do internally,
Speaker 4: and if that doors open, I'm open to that is
Speaker 4: to do in the work internally. So I I you know,
Speaker 4: I don't want to abandon our legacy. I just mentally
Speaker 4: have to do what needs to be done for myself
Speaker 4: and and and there has to be a mutual respect.
Speaker 1: And that's it. That's all needs to be.
Speaker 3: So I love this, like you know, she never what
Speaker 3: does Michelle Obama say? They go to look Michelle Obama, you're.
Speaker 1: Like she said, when they go low we go high.
Speaker 4: That's like, yeah, I respect Michelle Obama because she I mean,
Speaker 4: they have dogged her to the ground and she still
Speaker 4: she will say with her piece and say what she
Speaker 4: has to say with strength. So yeah, I'm I'm a
Speaker 4: part of that side that feels like, you know, let's.
Speaker 1: Make it right. And what do you because you know
Speaker 1: we're at the internet the interview, But what do you
Speaker 1: think it is to make it right?
Speaker 4: I said it mutual respect. When you have respect for somebody,
Speaker 4: you listen for what they with their situation is. You
Speaker 4: understand what their situation. You don't talk, you listen, and
Speaker 4: it goes. It's it's mutual as both sides have to
Speaker 4: do that. So it's almost like a read what's the
Speaker 4: word when you redo something? Read reinvent, reinvent a reinvention,
Speaker 4: and it has to be a reinvention because.
Speaker 3: All right, before we get about it, right, you came
Speaker 3: to them and you said, yo, just this and this
Speaker 3: right whatever it was. I don't want to get into
Speaker 3: particulars because that's your business. And they you felt like
Speaker 3: they didn't comply.
Speaker 6: I feel like they don't see what I'm saying, ok.
Speaker 6: And and and in order for that to happen.
Speaker 4: You have to have a third party explain, mediator, a mediator, therapists,
Speaker 4: something to that that helps to sort what the needs
Speaker 4: are because we're not grasping what They're not grasping what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I'm grasping what they're saying, but they're not
Speaker 4: grasping what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But Kevin, canna stop because one second and you said
Speaker 3: earlier you was like you expect Pepper right, And I've
Speaker 3: went I searched every interview and Peppa also addressed you right.
Speaker 3: She said, Spinora is not wrong, like she's not wrong,
Speaker 3: but she she feels like your discrepancy is with the
Speaker 3: label and not sor.
Speaker 1: Herbie's not there anymore. The labels aren't there anymore.
Speaker 4: But I'm still here and the business has to be
Speaker 4: dealt with with who's involved at this point and who's
Speaker 4: involved YouTube and me. There's no Herbie, there's no label.
Speaker 4: But at this point, the three of us are here
Speaker 4: and guess what I'm not getting what I should get
Speaker 4: out of it? Or I didn't I'm not getting what's
Speaker 4: you know?
Speaker 1: Do me right?
Speaker 6: So if I was one.
Speaker 4: Of them, I would go, let's get her what she
Speaker 4: needs it's not going to come out of my pocket,
Speaker 4: but I'm going to get her.
Speaker 6: Let's get her to where what she needs.
Speaker 4: What they what I felt happened was they shut down
Speaker 4: because it was like, you're coming at me. It was
Speaker 4: defensive and it was like, no, I'm coming at whoever,
Speaker 4: because y'all are salt and pepper. I need I need
Speaker 4: somebody to address what I've done and I haven't gotten
Speaker 4: paid for. I need somebody to address my contribution not
Speaker 4: getting handled. And guess what we did it in the end,
Speaker 4: it got handled because I said something, if you closed
Speaker 4: mouths don't get set. So you know, I'm not saying
Speaker 4: they're fully responsible for everything with me.
Speaker 1: It's herbie right there. I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I'm saying I didn't get what I'm supposed to get
Speaker 4: out of this. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: we y'all need to address it because I'm still here working,
Speaker 4: I'm still here providing, I'm still here contributing.
Speaker 1: And then it just got really nasty and ugly and
Speaker 1: we don't have to go over that. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, we are.
Speaker 4: The hearts are open. I just feel like, you know,
Speaker 4: if the door is going to be opened. It has
Speaker 4: to be a respect for each party involved.
Speaker 3: So right now, God comes down, God comes to spend
Speaker 3: the bell and says, yeah, I want you to make
Speaker 3: one last record.
Speaker 1: To shave humanity. Who are you calling to be the
Speaker 1: producer and the artist?
Speaker 4: Oh ship, that's a good one.
Speaker 6: But yeah, but this is your humanity.
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't really got to be cool.
Speaker 6: I mean that's big, that's big.
Speaker 1: You can still you know. Who would I call?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean call on my favorites, Yeah, favorites, Gosh, Jeff,
Speaker 4: I like Jeff, I like Pete Rock, I like I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't know about saving humanity, but I know about
Speaker 4: the the.
Speaker 1: The vibe I like.
Speaker 6: To get, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I would have to call on my folks.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Mc wise, who you picking? This is me, right, yes,
Speaker 1: this this is me.
Speaker 3: God came to you, okay, he he and Maui. He
Speaker 3: haven't had a haircut in seventeen years. God, Yeah, God, God,
Speaker 3: God's a hippie.
Speaker 1: God is God is a He's in Maui. He's just
Speaker 1: a foul thing. Ye, save the life, save a life.
Speaker 1: He's drinking. Yeah, that's a hard one, dude, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I would.
Speaker 4: I would pick myself. To be honest, I would pick
Speaker 4: I would. I would pick myself on the on the vocals,
Speaker 4: on everything.
Speaker 1: God damn, I mean I picked my lyrics.
Speaker 6: I have a lot of friends that I can call on.
Speaker 6: Oh ship, sorry, oh ship.
Speaker 1: You got give me a.
Speaker 4: Drink?
Speaker 1: K I'm Air Jordans right now. He's so deep.
Speaker 3: Yes, no, but because you know why, I'm really wants
Speaker 3: you to understand how important you are to us, like
Speaker 3: how important you are to everyone in this room. When
Speaker 3: we knew that we had spend the other book, everybody
Speaker 3: became early.
Speaker 8: Is that so.
Speaker 1: That's crazy except your flight was late.
Speaker 3: That's my flight that wasn't And by the way, I
Speaker 3: went and took a shower, came change, he came to shovel. Yes,
Speaker 3: because because it's not that I want to give your flowers,
Speaker 3: it's you deserve your flowers.
Speaker 4: And thank you.
Speaker 3: You're for female, for female DJs, for female DJs, DJs
Speaker 3: for humans.
Speaker 1: I want to let me go over with me for
Speaker 1: human beings, the humanity.
Speaker 3: What you have done and what you have brung to
Speaker 3: the game will never never, ever, ever, ever, ever ever
Speaker 3: be compromised.
Speaker 1: Or erased or ras. We love you. We want you
Speaker 1: to know that we love you. We want you to
Speaker 1: know how much we cherish you because you're a legacy,
Speaker 1: real real legacy spend. Thank you so much man for
Speaker 1: coming to us and.
Speaker 3: Letting us give you your flowers, because your flowers as
Speaker 3: well deserve but by the way, it's deserved, like you're
Speaker 3: really like.
Speaker 1: A leg legend. And thank you for coming to fucking
Speaker 1: drink I said, I said, I tell, I said, babe,
Speaker 1: what they want with me on drink Champs this is
Speaker 1: more than deserve.
Speaker 3: So let me just ask you if you could, if
Speaker 3: you can fix anything in hip hop according to your career,
Speaker 3: what would it be? Oh wow, I guess the gate
Speaker 3: keeping explain that to the people that don't understand.
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, there's a hold on what
Speaker 4: everybody needs to be doing in hip hop, like we
Speaker 4: gotta sound like this or we gotta do it this way.
Speaker 4: I mean, I like that it's open and people get
Speaker 4: to choose, but I feel like the powers that be
Speaker 4: kind of put in.
Speaker 6: Our face what they.
Speaker 4: What it needs to be, like it has to be
Speaker 4: like this, like it has to be ratchet or it
Speaker 4: has to be you know, gangster or it has to
Speaker 4: be conscious, so it has to be this. It's like
Speaker 4: so much to all of us, and that we we're
Speaker 4: open to go into whatever direction we want. But I
Speaker 4: feel like, you know, mainstream kind of conducts it to
Speaker 4: be mainstream and what they whatever they feel is mainstream.
Speaker 4: And we know, right, I mean, we see right through it.
Speaker 1: Do you not see it?
Speaker 4: I see it? I feel like speaking like Rhapsody, I'm
Speaker 4: a I'm a fan of Rhapsody, but I don't get
Speaker 4: to see her, you know, as much as i'd like to.
Speaker 4: So I follow her, you know, like I follow her,
Speaker 4: but I feel like they push, they push in front
Speaker 4: of you who they want to make a star, and
Speaker 4: it makes you just wonder.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 4: A point the baby that won't even It just makes
Speaker 4: you wonder, like is this all a part of a
Speaker 4: plan to you know, put us put in front of
Speaker 4: us what they want us.
Speaker 1: They want this to be the.
Speaker 2: Uh this freedom because social media, okay, let me democratize it.
Speaker 2: But really, even though these tech companies now are the
Speaker 2: gatekeepers and there's a lot of stuff going on there, but.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you so for lack of a better term,
Speaker 3: and you correct me if I'm wrong. What's so unprepable
Speaker 3: was kind of like the ratchet conscious and sexy you
Speaker 3: feel ratchet was in there.
Speaker 4: I don't think we were ratchet.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't see the ratchet.
Speaker 6: We did a little raunchy.
Speaker 1: If you did raunchy, then that's that's eighties ratchet.
Speaker 4: Our panties like we had.
Speaker 1: Not what it is, but for that time, it would
Speaker 1: have been pushing that envelope.
Speaker 4: It was everything.
Speaker 3: So when all the things you've been when you listened
Speaker 3: by the way, I told you you how I felt earlier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because but I'm not a female. Yeah we know this.
Speaker 1: But when you listen to knowing you have daughters and
Speaker 1: you listen to the right these records have dances too.
Speaker 1: Because I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm saying it, I'm saying it. But and by the way,
Speaker 3: I was like, holy ship. Do you feel like, damn
Speaker 3: they didn't listen to me us or do you feel
Speaker 3: like damn they keeping our message going?
Speaker 4: Oh no, I don't feel like they didn't listen to us.
Speaker 4: I feel like they're in their own space. Hm. I
Speaker 4: feel like these artists that are out that come out
Speaker 4: are in their own space, but they have to find
Speaker 4: who they are and do what they do, so I.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're inspired by our music and about
Speaker 4: how we work, great.
Speaker 1: They've been pushing it real good for a Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you're inspired, great.
Speaker 4: I mean I just remember for us what we've done
Speaker 4: too for a womanhood. I remember how we kind of
Speaker 4: push the movement empowerment, empowering women and that was really
Speaker 4: important that we We could use more of that. Now,
Speaker 4: we definitely could use more of that. So artists today
Speaker 4: can take a page from that book. I'm not saying
Speaker 4: be like us, do you, but a page from that
Speaker 4: book as a woman, you know, is only going to
Speaker 4: make it better for your surroundings.
Speaker 2: I think, right, And we probably need more female groups,
Speaker 2: that's what we're at. We were talking about that with
Speaker 2: mass because there's not as many groups anymore in general, the.
Speaker 1: Old school groups like well let's talk about what a band? Right?
Speaker 1: How does this session happen? Because now you're the DJ,
Speaker 1: now you're stepping up session.
Speaker 4: Well, they called me to m C on regular occasions
Speaker 4: because you know, bless you, bless you, because they knew
Speaker 4: I could.
Speaker 3: You know I could, And just just a little are
Speaker 3: we taking the shot for no reason? No, you are okay, okay,
Speaker 3: I was waiting. If you had one, I would take
Speaker 3: it with you. Let's go you ready, Yeah, my co
Speaker 3: let's go up your cup. I'm doing the guy.
Speaker 1: So what a man? That's called session?
Speaker 4: Freddie Fox? Freddie Fox was was the writer.
Speaker 2: Wait the same bumpy knuckles, knuckles, bumpy knuckles, what a man?
Speaker 3: Yes, what the fuck out of here? It's my friend.
Speaker 3: I'm calling him giving a call.
Speaker 4: Yes, And he said, he said, he said, Salt is
Speaker 4: the person you want to you want to Pepper is
Speaker 4: the person you want to take home. No, so is
Speaker 4: the person you want to take home to mama. Spin
Speaker 4: is the person you want to marry. And Pepper is
Speaker 4: the person you want to fucko.
Speaker 1: This is what he said. This is what he said.
Speaker 6: He said he had this, he had this, He had
Speaker 6: this thing about Salt Pepper.
Speaker 4: This was this is his his right and and and
Speaker 4: he said, he said, Salt is the person to take
Speaker 4: home to mama. Spin is the person you want to marry,
Speaker 4: and ask him. You can ask him yourself. He won't
Speaker 4: say it, he won't say it publicly for whatever reason,
Speaker 4: but you can talk to them. And Pepper is the
Speaker 4: person you want to fuck. It was just this thing
Speaker 4: about salt and pepper.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, you calling her? Go ahead on what's happen?
Speaker 1: I don't know on the regular phone, nigga, ain't fucking me?
Speaker 1: Oh man, do I got his number? I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's is this?
Speaker 4: Just want to see if I can find his number?
Speaker 1: Please? Is this what number you got?
Speaker 4: You got this.
Speaker 1: Exactly? All right? So why am I calling?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: But because.
Speaker 4: You could just talk to him separately. But that was
Speaker 4: the gist of the conversation that I had with him.
Speaker 4: And so when when we went into the studio to
Speaker 4: do it, and he had this idea of how is
Speaker 4: the one they want to suck mom, take home to mom,
Speaker 4: take home mom.
Speaker 1: To get married to marry.
Speaker 4: Is the one you want to suck and and not him?
Speaker 4: But he was like, that's how it seems like the
Speaker 4: world easy, all right. I don't know from what he
Speaker 4: said that's you know, you'd have to talk with him
Speaker 4: about it. But it gave us a picture. It gave
Speaker 4: me a picture of how to vocalize my verse. And
Speaker 4: when you ask how did it come together, it was
Speaker 4: a description of how to deliver my verse.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and that was like your introduction because everyone
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 4: Just so it wasn't my introduction to MC and though
Speaker 4: it was because I was on earlier stuff too, but
Speaker 4: but that was a big one.
Speaker 1: World and it was you was you pleased?
Speaker 4: I was very pleased. But you know, I'm a DJ,
Speaker 4: so I just got up there and just did my
Speaker 4: thing or whatever, and I mean for that to be
Speaker 4: a hit, it was. It's still a head to this day.
Speaker 4: It is as soon as the girl leaves somebody, they
Speaker 4: be like, what a man, What a man?
Speaker 3: And as a DJ, to be able to play a
Speaker 3: record somebody incredible. It's either when they leave them or
Speaker 3: when they meet somebody like what a man.
Speaker 4: That by the way, if you want to praise the men,
Speaker 4: you know, like men don't get a lot of praise.
Speaker 3: This woman who played this record? Okay, this woman, and
Speaker 3: they throw it in our face they be like, what
Speaker 3: a man?
Speaker 1: What a man?
Speaker 4: You better be a good man.
Speaker 1: That's what goddamn taket shot.
Speaker 6: Okay, So we got the what a man behind us.
Speaker 6: Shout out to all the men out there.
Speaker 1: Yes, m.
Speaker 4: Look, I'm like, so.
Speaker 3: We have hip hop fifty We had fifty one, now
Speaker 3: fifty one, now right, we had saltemn Pepper. What is
Speaker 3: it thirty year anniversary or twenty year anniversary?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 1: No, gosh, well thirty five.
Speaker 4: Eighty six, So eighty six would be forty years for
Speaker 4: Salt and Pepper and I came in eighty seven, a
Speaker 4: year after. Yeah, I think they released first in eighty
Speaker 4: six if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 6: And I came eighty seven, so we're almost the forty
Speaker 6: year mark.
Speaker 1: Wow, I think.
Speaker 4: A little ya A long.
Speaker 1: Time in your opinion? How would this legacy end? Perfect opinion?
Speaker 4: We'll figure our shit out, We'll do a world tour.
Speaker 4: We'll get you know, show the world that we as
Speaker 4: a unit or a movement as opposed to personal situations,
Speaker 4: and we would be able to as women address our ship.
Speaker 1: If it should be.
Speaker 4: If not, the music will always be there and the
Speaker 4: memories will always be there. That stands out for me.
Speaker 4: I always have that, and I think we all will
Speaker 4: always have the music.
Speaker 1: So if you could take anything back, what it would
Speaker 1: it be?
Speaker 6: Nothing at all?
Speaker 1: Fuck?
Speaker 4: I love the answer nothing because it bring you right here.
Speaker 4: It brought you right here, like I can't regret anything.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's things that I wish I would have known,
Speaker 4: known better to do like well, being young and just
Speaker 4: kind of just going with ship and and just following
Speaker 4: along and just being afraid to speak my mind early
Speaker 4: on or say things that would rock the situation. I mean,
Speaker 4: things might have been a little bit different had I
Speaker 4: done that, you know. But I can't regret anything because
Speaker 4: it's all it happened in my time. Yeah, that day,
Speaker 4: when that day came, when I did speak up, it
Speaker 4: was all like, do you imagine something just rushing in.
Speaker 4: I don't regret anything. No, I'm happy where I am.
Speaker 1: The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame calls.
Speaker 4: I'm like the.
Speaker 1: Ring a Lang Lang one day, one day, You're not.
Speaker 1: You're not denouncing it. You're gonna stay with of course should.
Speaker 4: And right there and being grateful, thankful, you know. I
Speaker 4: think I got to say thank you to the girls.
Speaker 4: I got to say thank you to Herbie for what
Speaker 4: they have done for me. And you know, I'm here
Speaker 4: because of that. But I'm also here because of the
Speaker 4: talent that I exusted, and I'm here because of the
Speaker 4: just the door that was open for me. I took
Speaker 4: full advantage of it. And if I ain't live up
Speaker 4: to this name, then I ain't do my job. If
Speaker 4: I didn't live up to Spinderella, Like, there's no other
Speaker 4: Spinderella in this world that would have lived up to
Speaker 4: this job the way I have no one, no one,
Speaker 4: no one, And I'm still to this day doing it.
Speaker 6: But I'm doing a little bit different. I'm enjoying it today.
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it today. I used to be a job.
Speaker 1: It used to be a job. It used to be work.
Speaker 4: I used to be like, oh my god, the hustle, bustle,
Speaker 4: and I remember that. But now I get to call
Speaker 4: my shots on your term. It's on my terms day
Speaker 4: and it's the best thing ever.
Speaker 3: Fucking I can't think of a better way to end
Speaker 3: this fucking just like that, you know what. That's how
Speaker 3: I'm living life now. Good Fuck everyone, I'm sorry, did
Speaker 3: I say that about all right? Spend thank you, thank
Speaker 3: you so much because I know again I know you didn't.
Speaker 1: Know what you did for me. Yeah earlier what I said,
Speaker 1: I did not at all.
Speaker 4: I did not know that was in the background, like
Speaker 4: I would like, it's the same the same position.
Speaker 1: Oh did she go like that's crazy?
Speaker 3: And thank you so much. But by the way, let's
Speaker 3: reiterate me and e FN, this is your house. Anytime
Speaker 3: you want to promote something, if you want to promote
Speaker 3: that you got yellow ice dropping and it's just your
Speaker 3: PEPs selling yellow ice.
Speaker 1: But guess what, there's certain.
Speaker 3: Niggas that I did, thee.
Speaker 1: The algorithms I look at that it makes one day.
Speaker 1: I'll be back.
Speaker 3: You can be back anytime you want, because this is
Speaker 3: your house. Respect your husband, respect to your daughter, respected
Speaker 3: your family, because your family is the associated family of
Speaker 3: my family.
Speaker 1: And but that's not why you're here.
Speaker 3: You hear it, because you're one of the greatest DJs
Speaker 3: of all time. And I wanted to say that, particularly
Speaker 3: because certain people say greatest female DJs, and I don't.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 3: I don't identify with that. Identify with DJ yes, not female.
Speaker 3: I'm killing it. The transis period. People gonna fuck with me.
Speaker 3: She is one of the greatest DJs of all fucking time. Amazing,
Speaker 3: not man, not woman, not black, not white, not Puerto Rican,
Speaker 3: not fucking do Dolph, no, not just diuzled off never,
Speaker 3: just great.
Speaker 1: One of the greatest DJs of all fucking time. Thank
Speaker 1: you Thank you so much for coming, Thanks for our president.
Speaker 4: Yes, thank you for my flowers.
Speaker 1: Jesus one love, thank you so much.
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