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Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what we've got the

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Speaker 1: World series preview episode featuring our guest Buster Only, I'm

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Speaker 1: Jeff Kirkschen along with my dad, Hall of Famer Tim Kirkshon.

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Speaker 2: It's World Series time, Dad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, we have a great guest in Buster, who

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Speaker 3: grew up a big Dodger fan. I'm not sure how

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Speaker 3: he was a Dodger fan growing up in Vermont, and

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Speaker 3: he certainly wasn't a fan or is a fan of

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Speaker 3: the Yankees because he's a journalist.

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Speaker 4: You're not allowed to be a fan of anything. But he,

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Speaker 4: of course was the beat writer for the Yankees during

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Speaker 4: some of their great seasons, one of the best beat

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Speaker 4: guys ever and a great teammate for us. So I

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Speaker 4: can't wait to have Buster on later.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be so great.

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Speaker 1: Now, before we get to all of the excitement around

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Speaker 1: the Yankees Dodgers World Series, Dad, you had the pleasure

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Speaker 1: of following the.

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Speaker 2: Yankees through the Al Ranks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you were doing radio games on the Al

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Speaker 1: side with your buddy Carl Ravitch and of course our

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Speaker 1: friend ed WARDO. Perez, both friends of the show, both

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Speaker 1: former guests of the show.

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Speaker 2: How was that for you?

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Speaker 3: Well, it was the most enjoyable assignment that I think

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Speaker 3: I've ever had a The games were fantastic, but when

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Speaker 3: you get to sit in the booth with your two

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Speaker 3: it was We laughed, we learned, it was so much fun.

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Speaker 4: And Jeff, I've decided something I already knew, is that

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Speaker 4: Edwardo is the greatest teammate ever. Let me explain. I

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Speaker 4: don't even think I told you this. Let me explain

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Speaker 4: what he did. Once.

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Speaker 3: We're going on a plane and we're going at the

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Speaker 3: same time that the Mets game is on. It's a

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Speaker 3: playoff game, and the flight is three hours to Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: So I naturally don't know how to watch a live

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Speaker 3: So Edwardo, who has two iPads in his bag, he

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Speaker 3: gets the game on his iPad. On his second iPad,

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Speaker 3: he gets the game for me. He passes his iPad

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Speaker 3: to the lady next to him, and then she passes

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Speaker 3: it to the fellow sitting next to me. So now

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Speaker 3: I've got a baseball game, a playoff game, in front

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Speaker 3: idea who Eduardo is or who I am, and she

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Speaker 4: She just looks at me and she says, just don't

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Speaker 4: touch the screen. That's what she told me, Jeff.

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Speaker 3: This is this is what Kelly and Mark do when

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Speaker 3: they take three year old cars and Qinahan on a

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Speaker 3: keep him occupied for two and a half hours, and

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Speaker 3: they always tell him don't touch the screen. So, of

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Speaker 3: course I didn't touch the screen. And later Eduardo told me, oh,

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Speaker 3: by the way, I put a screen lock on it, just.

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Speaker 4: To see.

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Speaker 3: One of my seven years old He put a screen

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Speaker 2: I don't want to make you feel worse.

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Speaker 1: But my fourteen month old daughter McKinley, we do that

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Speaker 1: That it's fourteen months we're talking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, seven is way way ahead of me. So that's

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Speaker 3: how great a teammate Eduardo is. He got the game

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Speaker 3: for me, passed it over to me with the instructions, Tim,

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Speaker 1: Because you know, he sent me a photo. He sent

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Speaker 1: me a photo of you, Carl Eduardo and you are

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Speaker 4: Right, Edie.

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Speaker 3: He had a like a little caption for all five pictures.

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Speaker 4: Yep, we were going to Cleveland. You know what the

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Speaker 4: caption said, nap less away. He's like that.

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Speaker 3: He's one of the greatest players in Cleveland baseball history.

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Speaker 3: They even named the team after him. They became the

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Speaker 5: That's how great he was.

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Speaker 4: And EDWARDO caught me taking a nap on the airplane.

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Speaker 4: We had the greatest time.

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Speaker 3: So, Jeff, I need to share something with you because

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Speaker 3: I still don't get how my two favorite teammates didn't

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Speaker 3: understand the significance. All Right, We're doing the Yankees game

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Speaker 3: at Yankee Stadium against the Guardians.

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Speaker 4: And Aaron Judge hits a home run, his first one

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Speaker 3: He's got well over three hundred homers now in his career, okay,

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Speaker 3: And coming up to the plate is John Carlo Stanton

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Speaker 4: Four hundred and twenty eight homers or something.

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Speaker 3: So I run to the bathroom quickly in between, and

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Speaker 4: With a C. Okay, which is a little bit off

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Speaker 3: So I say, I just saw Nelson Cruz in the bathroom,

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Speaker 3: and they're both like laughing under their breath, and Rabbi

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Speaker 4: Else to this story? Or is that it?

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Speaker 3: I said, look, Judge just hit a homer. Stanton is

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Speaker 3: There is power everywhere, and they.

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Speaker 4: Didn't get it. They did not connect the.

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Speaker 3: Dots at all. And I will tell you, Jeff and

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Speaker 3: I don't often do this. I went on three radio

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Speaker 3: care about Eduardo's unbelievable breakdown of Aaron Judge's swing. They

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Speaker 3: just wanted to talk about this ridiculous back and forth

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Speaker 4: That's what people care about.

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Speaker 3: I still think if you connect the dots, we got

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Speaker 4: Am I wrong about this?

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Speaker 2: No, you're not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Stanton's what the active among active players most

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Speaker 4: Right right?

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Speaker 1: Got Nelson Cruz who has almost five hundred, like four

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Speaker 2: So I get it.

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Speaker 1: There's power, and Aaron Judge could very well be, you know,

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of power everywhere.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was pretty obvious, but they didn't think so.

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Speaker 4: And they did you.

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Speaker 1: Say anything to Nelson Cruz? Were you like in urinals

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Speaker 4: Of course I said hello.

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Speaker 3: So the next day I go onto the field and

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Speaker 3: Eduardo is showing Nelson Cruz and Carlos By this ridiculous

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Speaker 3: it was funny. I was just trying to make a point.

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Speaker 1: Whole lot of power in that bathroom, which usually is

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Speaker 4: Right, So totally understand. I think that's what they were

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Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, So Dad, obviously we've got our takeaways.

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Speaker 1: Only two teams remain one will be World Series champions.

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Speaker 2: But what takeaways do you have leading up to this point?

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Speaker 4: Well, Jeff, you know, I'm sixty seven years old.

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Speaker 3: I covered baseball for the last forty five years, and

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Speaker 3: I am telling you that Games three, four, and five

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Speaker 3: back to back to back. That doesn't make them the

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Speaker 4: That good back to back to back.

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Speaker 3: It rivals two thousand and one Games three, four, and

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Speaker 3: which was an unbelievable middle three games in New York.

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Speaker 4: This one, I think rivaled that. It was that good.

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Speaker 3: And I'm telling you, Jeff, Game three, the famous Game three,

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Speaker 3: which will always forever be known in Cleveland as Game three.

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Speaker 3: You don't even you don't need any context, you don't

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Speaker 3: World Series game. But Jeff, when it comes to drama magic,

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Speaker 3: it was unbelievable. There were four home runs from the

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Speaker 2: Game three was amazing.

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Speaker 1: And it's a stark difference from the National League because

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Speaker 1: it wasn't until the final game of that series, Game six,

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Speaker 3: Right, And that's kind of the point of this is

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Speaker 3: Which is what makes baseball so great. Just because you

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Speaker 4: And the Yankees didn't in sixty, but the Dodgers did,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to put you on the spot here,

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Speaker 1: but to funny World Series, are the Washington Nationals the

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Speaker 1: only team to lose all three home games right, yes,

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Speaker 3: First team ever to win the World Series winning all

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Speaker 2: On the road.

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Speaker 3: Now, Game five, Jeff, also featured one of the greatest

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Speaker 3: game five to two. Now I've told you this before, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: in baseball, Okay, and he proved it in that at bat.

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Speaker 4: He never gives up a pitch, never gives up in it.

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Speaker 3: And that home run that he hit was so incredible.

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Speaker 3: Carlos Stanton hit a home run also, of course, and

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Speaker 3: he is now in the conversation Jeff for the greatest

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Speaker 3: post among the greatest postseason players of all time. That's

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Speaker 3: Right, and Jeff, this is going to be one of

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Speaker 1: one on the East coast. And so we decided to

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Speaker 1: Trust me, Dad, we ran this simulation. And how exciting

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, that's so good.

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Speaker 3: All right, The Yankees have the greatest roster in the

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Speaker 3: history of baseball, there's.

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Speaker 4: No way around that. And they went seven games with

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Speaker 4: the Dodgers, who won.

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Speaker 2: In seven games.

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Speaker 1: The Yankees took down the Dodgers four to three in

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Speaker 1: Game seven, four to three in Game six, four to

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Speaker 1: three in Game five as well, so nail biting finishes. Actually,

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Speaker 1: in fact, of all of the seven games, six of

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Speaker 1: them finished within one run of each other.

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Speaker 2: Dad, which is kind of insane to think about.

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Speaker 1: So when you talk about three great games in a row,

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Speaker 1: it looks like game four, five, six, and seven of

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Speaker 1: this simulated series were pretty incredible. Let me run through

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Speaker 1: some great notable stats.

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Speaker 4: The last three games were four to three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, last three games were four to three, and then

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Speaker 1: Game four was eight seven, so also a one run finish,

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Speaker 1: and then four to three was Game one again, and

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Speaker 1: five to four was Game two.

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Speaker 2: So all of these one run.

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Speaker 3: Finishes right under that's the fall of four to three.

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Speaker 3: That's so great, Go all right, keep going.

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 1: So I want to go through some notable stats here.

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Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson batted three fifty five in this World Series.

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Speaker 1: Mike Piazza two ninety six with four home runs, as well,

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Speaker 1: which is just incredible. And then on the Yankee side,

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Speaker 1: Mickey Mantle and Aaron Judge, who made the All Yankee

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Speaker 1: team batted three thirty three. Judge in the seven game series.

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Speaker 2: Five homers.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Jeff, just just think about the optic

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Speaker 3: Mickey Mantle and Aaron Judge playing on the same team.

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Speaker 3: Like Judge had to play right field so Manton could

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Speaker 3: play center, I assume, But that is so beautiful. Mantle

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Speaker 3: and Judge on the same team five homers in a

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Speaker 3: seven game series.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen RBIs for Aaron Judge Babe Ruth two home runs

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Speaker 1: and but for the Dodgers, they had the top batting

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Speaker 1: average with pe re Re spatting four hundred on the series,

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Speaker 1: which is just unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: And oral Herscheizer.

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Speaker 1: Took home two wins with a three point nine to

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Speaker 1: seven earned run average for the series, So I mean,

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Speaker 1: very exciting.

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Speaker 4: That is so so great. Well, thank you Stratamatic.

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Speaker 3: That's all I wanted to know who would win between

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Speaker 3: the Yankees and Dodgers, because those are two historic rosters.

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Speaker 2: Now, Dad, this state in baseball history.

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Speaker 4: What do you have? Okay?

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Speaker 3: Nineteen oh seven, Jimmy Fox was born again. I grew

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Speaker 3: up in a family where my dad, Pop, your grandfather,

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Speaker 3: used to talk about Ted Williams, Lefty Grove, Jimmy.

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Speaker 4: Fox all the time, after Luke Garrick.

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Fox is to me the greatest first baseman of

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Speaker 3: all time after Rogers Hornsby. I believe he's the greatest

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Speaker 3: right handed hitter of all time. Jimmy Fox born on

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Speaker 3: this date in nineteen oh seven, nineteen seventy three, each

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Speaker 3: Row was born. He will go into the Hall of

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Speaker 3: Fame next year. And he's one of my favorite players

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Speaker 3: that I was ever around, because he was such a

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Speaker 3: magician at the plate. And I told you Jeff used this,

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Speaker 3: I think in the podcast much earlier this year. He

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Speaker 3: hit a bouncing ball in a Major League game. The

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Speaker 3: ball bounced before home plate and he hit it. He

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Speaker 3: hit it off a.

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Speaker 4: One bounce and hit a single to center field.

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Speaker 3: And I called Pat Gillick, who at the time was

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Speaker 3: the Mariners general manager, and I said, bat, your guy

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Speaker 3: hit a single on a one hop into center field,

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Speaker 3: and he goes, oh. He used to practice that in

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Speaker 3: Japan all the time. I'm not surprised he did that.

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Speaker 3: He practiced hitting a bouncing ball just in case, say

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Speaker 3: there's a hit and run on and he's got to

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Speaker 3: put the ball in play.

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Speaker 4: He knows how to do that. And I also told you, Jeff,

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Speaker 4: no one ever.

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Speaker 3: Touched his bats, okay, And he treated his bats like gold, okay,

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Speaker 3: like he would make it out, and he would never

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Speaker 3: slam his bat to the ground. He would make it out,

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Speaker 3: which he didn't often do, and then very carefully put

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Speaker 3: his bat bat in the batrack. He once told a friend,

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Speaker 3: he said, no great carpenter throws his best hammer all

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Speaker 3: over the place. He takes care of it. He cherishes it,

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Speaker 3: he nurtures it. And that's what Ichiro did with his bats.

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Speaker 1: Did you also see that the game five of the

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Speaker 1: NLDS between the Dodgers and the padres twelve point nine

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Speaker 1: million viewers from Japan.

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Speaker 4: We're watching that.

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Speaker 3: Game and that was an all time record of people

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Speaker 3: watching the game, I believe in Japan. And it just

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Speaker 3: shows you just how important and how great the Japanese

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Speaker 3: players are, and just how immersed in baseball. The Japanese

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Speaker 3: fans are they are great. I got to go to Japan, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: I've never been. It's got to be a bucket listening

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Speaker 3: because I got to watch baseball over there.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you're looking at the start of next year.

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Speaker 1: Not to get ahead of ourselves, the Tokyo Series will

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Speaker 1: be in middle of March, just like they did the

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Speaker 1: Soul Series this year. Next year, that's where they're gonna start,

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Speaker 1: and they're sending show Hey Otani and the Dodgers out there,

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Speaker 1: so you could have the championship Dodgers going to I mean,

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Speaker 1: the place is gonna be nuts at the Tokyo Series.

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Speaker 1: We'll start at crowdfunding so we can get you there now.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: And last thing on this date, Sadly, in twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 3: Hank Greenwald died. Hank Greenwald is one of the great

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Speaker 3: broadcasters of all time. Worked for several teams, including the Yankees.

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Speaker 3: So he tells this story. He told this story years

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Speaker 3: ago that every day he went to Yankee Stadium. He's

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Speaker 3: the voice of the Yankees on television. Okay, he has

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Speaker 3: to show his pass to the same security guard every

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Speaker 3: time he enters Yankee Stadium. He's got his picture on

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Speaker 3: his past, and the guy always says, let me see

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Speaker 3: your pass, so he shows in the past, even though

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Speaker 3: he knows it's Hank Greenwald. So Hank decides one day

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Speaker 3: to have a little bit of fun with him, so

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Speaker 3: he cuts out a picture of Jeffrey Leonard, who is

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Speaker 3: an outfielder who is playing, and he tapes the picture

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Speaker 3: over his photo and the security guy goes, let me

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Speaker 3: see your card, and he shows it and it's a

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Speaker 3: picture of Jeffrey Leonard and the.

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Speaker 4: Guy goes go ahead like that.

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Speaker 3: Like and Hank is going, it's not even my picture

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Speaker 3: and you're stopping me. And then he goes in the

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Speaker 3: next day and he's got a picture of Secretariat.

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Speaker 4: He's cut out a picture of.

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Speaker 3: A horse and he puts it over his picture on

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Speaker 3: his ID, and the security guy.

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Speaker 4: Goes, let me, let me see your past. So he

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Speaker 4: shows the past. It's the picture of a horse, and

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Speaker 4: the guy goes, okay, go on through. That's the kind of.

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Speaker 3: Sense of humor that Hank gree Wald had loved him.

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Speaker 3: He was a great broadcaster.

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Speaker 1: That is incredible. Do you have a best of all

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Speaker 1: tim for this week?

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Speaker 3: Yes, in honor of Jimmy Fox's birthday, we are going

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Speaker 3: to give you the All Animal team. Okay, and I

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Speaker 3: know some viewers have put in all animal teams. Believe me,

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Speaker 3: Believe me, Jeff I was doing this in the eighth grade.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely no life back then either. So our first baseman

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Speaker 3: and honored Jimmy Fox is, of course Jimmy Fox. Kyleck's

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Speaker 3: Crab is our second baseman. Steve Lyons is our third baseman.

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Speaker 3: Robin Youunt Robinunt is our shortstop. Mike Trout, Tim Salmon

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Speaker 3: and Rob Deer are our outfielders. Justin Boorr is our

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Speaker 3: designated hitter. Our pitching staff is Bob Moose, Doug Bird,

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Speaker 3: Craig Swan, Randy Woolf, Johnny Seal had to look that

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Speaker 3: one up. Our closer was Goose Gossage. Of course, our

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Speaker 3: catcher is Spider Clark. So that is our all Animal

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Speaker 3: team Team Tim. This week all in honor of Jimmy Fox,

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Speaker 3: the Great double X, who was one of the great

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Speaker 3: fearsome hitters in the history of the sport.

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Speaker 1: This Friday, the World Series will kick off and we're

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Speaker 1: bringing in our friend Buster One, Dad, who you've worked

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Speaker 1: with for years and years and years obviously, just like you,

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Speaker 1: a long history of covering this game.

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Speaker 2: But you guys have also been friends for a long time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Buster is one of my dear friends.

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Speaker 3: He is an acquired taste, He'll be the first to

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Speaker 3: tell you that.

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Speaker 4: But he's got a big heart and more important than anything.

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Speaker 4: Well his big heart is more important than anything.

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Speaker 3: But he is a great baseball writer and a fearless

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Speaker 3: baseball reporter.

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Speaker 1: And I have to shout out my wife, Emily, because

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Speaker 1: very early on in our relationship she met Buster only

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Speaker 1: remember dad, When we were doing the celebrity softball game

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Speaker 1: in Colorado, she met Buster and she had not been

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Speaker 1: as big of a baseball fan as she is now,

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Speaker 1: and so in later retelling it, she said, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: they met Buster Almond. So I texted her today because

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Speaker 1: we're having him on the podcast. And all I said was,

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Speaker 1: guess what, Buster Olmond on the podcast today?

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Speaker 2: And she said, my man, So Buster Almond will join

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Speaker 2: us coming up next.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to just this great game or what?

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Speaker 3: And our special guest this week is my dear friend,

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Speaker 3: Buster Olney, who was a beat guy at the Baltimore

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Speaker 3: Sun soon after I left beat guy at the New

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Speaker 3: York Times, has been at ESPN for like a thousand years.

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Speaker 4: Buster is a beat.

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Speaker 3: Guy through and through, always has been, always will be Buster.

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Speaker 5: So glad to have you say hi to Jeff Kirkchin.

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Speaker 5: I have said hi to him many times in the past.

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Speaker 5: And Tim and you and I of course go way

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Speaker 5: back to that game of twenty one that we did

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Speaker 5: with another writer who he the other writer when we

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Speaker 5: first met. He was and we played he's six foot

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Speaker 5: seven and then there's me, and then there's you. Okay,

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Speaker 5: six seven against five seven, and then however tall you

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Speaker 5: claim to be?

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, we played the stupid game in like a

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Speaker 3: parking lot. There was a basket and if you went

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Speaker 3: like too far towards the bucket, there's a curb there

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Speaker 3: and you're gonna break your ankle. You're gonna roll your ankle.

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Speaker 3: That's where I met Buster. The first time we were

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Speaker 3: shooting with John Schlegel, so it was it was six

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Speaker 3: seven five seven five five. It was the dumbest game ever,

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Speaker 3: but we had a great time.

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Speaker 4: Buster. This is a good time to ask, Okay, tell

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Speaker 4: us about that unique shooting motion that you have.

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Speaker 3: Buster, Buster gets shoot it. It just looks a little different.

662
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 3: Where did that come from.

663
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 5: And guess what, And I've got something that's actually I'll

664
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 5: tie that into to present day. Okay, what's the first

665
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 5: thing you noticed about Caitlin Clark When she shoots right,

666
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 5: she's gotta be moving to her left and she's kind

667
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 5: of shooting against her body. My motion was a little

668
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 5: bit like that, and I realized it was because one

669
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 5: summer when I was shooting baskets when I was an

670
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 5: eighteen yearyears old, I was playing on a court that

671
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 5: was tilted to the left, and so I was constantly

672
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 5: shooting back up against it and I didn't know it.

673
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 5: Yeah right, It's not like we had like, you know,

674
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 5: analysis at Vanderbilt when I was going through school and

675
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 5: someone was saying, yeah, your shooting motion's a little off.

676
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 5: It wasn't until I was like thirty years old someone

677
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 5: said you have a really weird shooting motion. But I

678
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 5: tie it back to that summer when I was constantly

679
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 5: shooting up hill. And then I heard Katelyn Clark talk

680
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 5: about she made her dad extend the parking lot or

681
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 5: that the you know, the area where she shot as

682
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 5: a kid, because she had to move to her left

683
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 5: when she was shooting. And I'm like, I know that problem.

684
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,479
Speaker 3: Well, Buster, at least we have an answer to why

685
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 3: there's always a running jumper out a Buster.

686
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 4: It's it is so good. It is so good to say.

687
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: In the history of this podcast, we're now into thirty

688
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: two episodes, and I think this is like, by far,

689
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: maybe fifty percent of the time, we start with basketball

690
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: on a baseball lite.

691
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I've asked every major league player that

692
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 3: I've ever spoken to, can you dunk a basketball? Or

693
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 3: when's the last time you dunked a basketball? I've got

694
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: a lot of weird looks. In fact, Clay Holmes of

695
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: the Yankees, I said, because he's a big guy, so

696
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 3: when's the last time you dunked a basketball?

697
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 4: And he just sheepishly looked at me and said, I

698
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 4: can't tell you that because he's probably not allowed.

699
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 3: To play, so he couldn't, Yeah, write knowledge that he

700
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 3: had actually played.

701
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 4: So well, well, we'll leave that alone.

702
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: Busters.

703
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: So you know, before we obviously dive into the World Series,

704
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: the Yankees and the Dodgers, you know, you grew up

705
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: a Dodger fan, but you covered the Yankees in a big.

706
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: Part of your career.

707
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about your upbringing

708
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: because it was so.

709
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 2: Different from mine and my dad.

710
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: He regularly references you as growing up milking cows.

711
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 2: Can you expand upon this?

712
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 5: Yes? So when I was nine years old, I was

713
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 5: living in Woodstock, Vermont, and my folks, my mom my

714
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 5: stepfather bought a dairy farman Randolph Center, Vermont, and it's

715
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 5: about one hundred and ten acres. My sister actually owns

716
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 5: it now, the actual property. She doesn't have cows anymore.

717
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 5: But when we started out, we had twenty five Jersey

718
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 5: cows that we milked, and that herd expanded to fifty.

719
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 5: You know during that time. As you know, I'm nine, ten, eleven,

720
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 5: twelve years old, we're milking cows, you know, twice a day.

721
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 5: I always say that if you wanted preparation to be

722
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 5: a baseball beat writer, growing up on a farm was

723
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 5: the perfect training ground because three sixty five the cows

724
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 5: have to be milked twice a day. The only time

725
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 5: we didn't have to go to the bar and as

726
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 5: kids we had chores was on Christmas morning.

727
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 4: That was it.

728
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 5: But I grew up. Yeah, we didn't have any television.

729
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 5: I had radio, listened to the Red Sox games and WDV,

730
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 5: and then at night listened to the bouncing radio signals

731
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 5: from you know, KMOX and Saint Louis from Katie Ka

732
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 5: WR in New York, and I would follow the teams

733
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 5: and when the Dodgers would come east. I mean, that

734
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 5: was a big deal for me, you know, to listen

735
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 5: to the Dodgers and Katie Ka on Radio Buster.

736
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 3: We'll get to the Dodgers in a minute. You didn't

737
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 3: have a television. When did you get a television? No?

738
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 5: In my teens. In fact, my mom got one rented

739
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 5: a television so I could watch the nineteen seventy seven

740
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 5: and seventy eight World Series in black and white, okay,

741
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 5: on w R out of Maine, and have my guts

742
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 5: ripped out. This World Series is bringing back a lot

743
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 5: of PTSD for me, because, of course, you know, the

744
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 5: Dodgers lose in seventy seven of the Reggie Jackson hitting

745
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 5: all those home runs, and then in seventy eight they're

746
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 5: up two to oh. I double down all my bets

747
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 5: with my middle school you know mates in Randolph, Vermont,

748
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 5: and then the Yankees win the next four games. Reggie

749
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 5: Jackson cheats, he rolls over his ankle and he knocks

750
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 5: the ball away. And the first time that I met

751
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 5: Reggie Jackson when I was covering the Yankees for The Times,

752
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 5: there was this little voice in the back of my

753
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 5: head going, oh, my god, I used to hate you

754
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 5: so much.

755
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 3: Because of how he tortured my Dodgers. But Buster, when's

756
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 3: the last time you milked a cow?

757
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 4: We know you did this as a kish. Have you

758
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 4: done it in the last five years? Could you still

759
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 4: do it if you had to do it today?

760
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could still do it.

761
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 5: I didn't milk by hand like all these all these

762
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 5: old farmers in Vermont. You'd go up to shake their hands, guys,

763
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 5: and it would be like an old catcher times ten,

764
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 5: because they were milking, you know, twenty five cows a day,

765
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 5: twice a day by hand. Now we had, you know,

766
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 5: ours was more where you had a machine and you

767
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 5: put the the cups onto the cows. Okay, it was

768
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 5: a very different type of process. I haven't melt the cow,

769
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 5: probably since I was in my early twenties when my

770
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 5: brother briefly had a herd. But my last calmeking experience

771
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 5: was actually with Mike Greenberg. He lost the bets on

772
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 5: Mike and Mike okay. And for a month leading up

773
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 5: to that, here's Mike Greenberg, having grown up in New

774
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 5: York City. I was I was telling him stories that

775
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 5: were sort of true but not really true, about if

776
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 5: you around cows you have to watch out to see

777
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 5: if they mount you from behind, which is one hundred

778
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 5: percent true. You walk into a herd of cows, you

779
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 5: gotta like keep your head on a swivel. Okay, I

780
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 5: talked about projectile manure. That's one hundred percent true. You

781
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 5: walk into the into a barn and you see on

782
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 5: the wall, okay, lots of so and so. By the

783
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 5: time we got there, there was real fear. And the

784
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 5: cow that he milked was this twelve hundred pound Holstein

785
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 5: named Socks, who was incredibly placid. But Greeny bent down

786
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 5: and I was supposed to do play by play of

787
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 5: the milking. He bent down in front of me to

788
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 5: milk the cow, and I put my hand on his

789
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 5: back and he had swept through his jacket. He was

790
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 5: so scared, and I felt so bad in that moment,

791
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 5: like he thought that this animal was gonna turn on

792
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 5: him and attack this old you know Olstein cow buster.

793
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: We know Mike Greenberger. If there's a germ in the room.

794
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 3: He won't even go in there. There and he goes

795
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 3: into a room with flying manure. How did he get

796
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 3: through that part?

797
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 5: Well, he wound up milking about not enough for your

798
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 5: morning coffee in terms of what he got done. But

799
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 5: I would say, I think the funniest moment I've ever

800
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 5: had at ESPN. So as I say, this cow was

801
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 5: named Socks. Normally, when you milk a cow in a

802
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 5: bar in their heads locked into a stanchion like this, right,

803
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 5: and they can't really move well. At ESPN, they had

804
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 5: to put down some special carpet for the cow to

805
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 5: stand on otherwise to be slipping all over the place.

806
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 5: But it was not locked in. And so we go

807
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 5: to commercial break and they feed Socks her grain, right,

808
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 5: and she whips through the grain. During the commercial break,

809
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 5: we're coming out and all of a sudden, you know,

810
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 5: she finishes her grain and she starts looking around for

811
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 5: more grain, like where's some more? And when she started

812
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 5: spinning around, tim they were like eighty suits people and

813
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 5: executives at ESPN to come and watch this event. And

814
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 5: when Socks is swinging around looking for more grain, that

815
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 5: looks on their faces it was like they were in

816
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 5: a when Cow's attack video. There was so much fear

817
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 5: and Mike Greenberg was right at the front of that,

818
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,959
Speaker 5: the absolute petrified. They were so petrified to this cow.

819
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: I can imagine, Jeff, have you I should know this,

820
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 3: You're my son. Have you ever milked a cow?

821
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: I can say I have milked a cow when I

822
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: started in country music radio. I had the opportunity to

823
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: do it while I was at a rodeo, So I

824
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: have and I know you did that on a field

825
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: trip with my.

826
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 3: Sister right right, Kelly Kirchen and I went to Ferguson

827
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: Farm with mister Andrews in the fifth grade and Kelly's

828
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 3: down there milking a cow by hand, and she says, Dad,

829
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: you gotta come over here and try this.

830
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 4: So we had a.

831
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 3: Little competition who could get the most milkout and she

832
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: beat me in that competition. But then we found out

833
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: later she was milking skim milk because it came out

834
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 3: a lot faster, So that wasn't fair.

835
00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 5: That was a joke.

836
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 4: Buster. It's a cow joke.

837
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: I only have one. You can't make a cow joke

838
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: with a former dairy farmer.

839
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 5: God, what kind of cow?

840
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 2: Was a joke.

841
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 5: What kind of cow is it?

842
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 4: I have no idea.

843
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 3: He was big, and he was there was manure everywhere,

844
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 3: and I was scared to death.

845
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 5: Till first off, let's get let's clarify something. You said.

846
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 5: He was big.

847
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 2: No, he is giving up milk.

848
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 5: Okay, let's okay. I defy you to go and do

849
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 5: the same thing to a to a bull that you

850
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 5: tried with a cow and get away with it.

851
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not gonna work.

852
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna tell you that ahead of time. Uh.

853
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 5: And what color was this cow?

854
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 4: The cow was brown?

855
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 5: Okay, so probably was a Jersey cow, which is you know,

856
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 5: that's the kind we had the Great Buster.

857
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 4: When we were in Maryland. It couldn't have been a

858
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 4: Jersey cow, of course it.

859
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 5: Oh my god, there's your second joke that you just

860
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 5: played off that those.

861
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 4: Are the two stupidest things I've ever said in my life.

862
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 3: But it's clear, Jeff, you have to acknowledge the butser

863
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 3: no one would be worse on a farm than me.

864
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 4: Is that fair to say?

865
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: Oh, it's absolutely true. The cows just wouldn't laugh at

866
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: your jokes, and they don't really care about any stats

867
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: from the dead ball era. That's pretty much all you

868
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: got going for you.

869
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 5: Dad. When I was a kid, I made up a

870
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 5: baseball dice game, and I would never use the names

871
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 5: of major player of major league players because it felt

872
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 5: like sacrilege to me to do that. Like I was

873
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 5: not going to put Fred Linn and Jim Rice and

874
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 5: those guys in my game, Steve Garvey. So I used

875
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 5: all of our cows. Okay, it was my first I realized,

876
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 5: looking back on it, it was my first experience in

877
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 5: scouting because I could look at Rebecca, who was our

878
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 5: first cow, and say, she's got the body of a

879
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 5: third basement. There's no doubt about it. A little bit

880
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 5: of power, a lot of strength there. And then we

881
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 5: had some younger cows that had speed, you know, they

882
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 5: were base stealers. They'd put them in the outfield on

883
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 5: my dice game. That's how desperate I was.

884
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:56,479
Speaker 4: Buster.

885
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 3: I always knew you were a weird guy, but you

886
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 3: are even weirder. And I thought, after hearing that Rebecca

887
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 3: is the third baseman, Oh yeah, clearly.

888
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: She's got the body of one.

889
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 5: Right, that's exactly right. Felicia was a second basement. Penny

890
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 5: was definitely an outfielder, like she was at the front

891
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 5: end of a great group of milk giving cows. Okay,

892
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 5: right at the top, and she a great bloodline.

893
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

894
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: Regularly, Buster had to say, there's no moving in baseball,

895
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: all right, all right?

896
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: So Buster, I have to ask, because I'm so curious.

897
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: You know, my dad grew up and he loved Willie Mays.

898
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: He loved the Giants, but he grew up in Maryland, right,

899
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: You loved the Dodgers and you grew up in Vermont.

900
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: How did that happen?

901
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 5: So when I was eight years old, my mom got

902
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 5: me a book on Sandy Kofax. She sees his picture

903
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 5: right over my shoulder, and I you know right away,

904
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 5: I love that book. And interestingly I didn't realize until

905
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 5: decades later that it was written by my future New

906
00:45:55,160 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 5: York Times colleague, George Vessey. Uh. And my first two

907
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 5: little league teams, the first and What's Dock Vermont, the

908
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 5: second in Randolph, were both the Dodgers, and so that

909
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 5: cemented it. And so the teams I grew up rooting

910
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 5: for with the Garvey Lopes Russell Say teams, you know,

911
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 5: great pitching and torturing me year after year. It felt

912
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 5: like until they finally won the World Series nineteen eighty one.

913
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 3: All right, but this is what Buster does to be Jeff.

914
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,959
Speaker 3: Every time I do the podcast with him, it was Tim,

915
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put you on the spot, or Tim, I'm

916
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 3: gonna throw you a curveball. Buster throws me more curveballs

917
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 3: at Burt Blylevin. It drives me crazy. Not the point,

918
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 3: it's a cluster. Since you're the Dodger guy and Sandy

919
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 3: Kofax was your guy growing up, you have to make

920
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 3: a choice. The greatest Dodger pitcher ever is Sandy Kofax

921
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: or Clayton Kershaw?

922
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 4: How do you answer that?

923
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 3: See, this is what you do to me every week

924
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 3: on the podcast. And then when I answer against what

925
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 3: you say, you tell me I'm wrong.

926
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 4: Now, I may say this.

927
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: Is an impossible question given the errors in which they pitched, yes,

928
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 3: and the greatness of both. I want you to tell

929
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 3: me who's the better Dodger.

930
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 4: Pitching if you have to pick one.

931
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 5: So I'm thinking that Clayton Karshaw would want me to

932
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 5: answer the question this way, it's Sandy Kofax. Sandy Kofax's

933
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 5: level of dominance was so extraordinary in his time and

934
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 5: as I say that, I'm like man Kershaw was so

935
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 5: great too when he was at his absolute best. And

936
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 5: maybe it's a bit of a sentimental pick, but I

937
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 5: would go with Kofax because those years that he had

938
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 5: sixty two to sixty six, Oh my god, Jef, I

939
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 5: mean to go back and look at the numbers. Three

940
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 5: hundred and eighty two strikeouts in one season twenty seven

941
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 5: to nine. Anyway, Tim, I interrupted you, Jeff, he had more.

942
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 3: He had three hundred more strikeouts than he had walks

943
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: in that season.

944
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 4: Think about that for a second.

945
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 3: His final four seasons he went ninety seven and twenty seven,

946
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: seventy games over five hundred, and then he retired. Okay, Buster,

947
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 3: you're off the hook. Say it's an impossible question. You

948
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 3: can't go wrong, but the postseason numbers for Sandy Kofax

949
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 3: are so unbelievably good. Yes, I think I would take

950
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 3: Kofax also, even though he pitched in a different era

951
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 3: when it was it was a pitcher's era as opposed

952
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 3: to a little bit more under, Kershaw was a hitters here.

953
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 5: Okay, No, I agree with that, and I think you

954
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 5: agree with me too, if you know Clayton, I think

955
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 5: Clayton would also say that, Oh, he would say absolutely,

956
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 5: take Sandy Kofax.

957
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 3: Oh, there's no doubt about that. He has no interest

958
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: in talking about that stuff.

959
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 2: Buster, I'm gonna throw you another curve.

960
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: As you say on the Baseball Tonight podcast, you can

961
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: available wherever you listen to your podcast or wherever you're

962
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: listening to is this a great game or what you

963
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 1: can listen to? Buster there as well, does an incredible job.

964
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: Top five Yankees of all time? Because I know you too.

965
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 1: You two loving baseball minds have battled over this list

966
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: for a while, So give us your top five.

967
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 5: How many times do we bet photo with this on

968
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 5: live TV? Timlake? A dozen times?

969
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 3: And the last time we did it on live TV

970
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 3: was at a game and we were both in the

971
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 3: dugout and Buster made his choice and I told him.

972
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: I told him on live TV, Buster, you know how

973
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 3: much I admire and respect you, but you are an idiot.

974
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: That's what I call Buster, my teammate on National TV.

975
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 4: And I will explain why. So Buster, this is an

976
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 4: impossible question.

977
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 3: Also, yeah, one through five and or do you want

978
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 3: me to give mine first?

979
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 4: And then you can?

980
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 5: I think we can agree on three Okay, we'll agree

981
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 5: on three.

982
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 3: All right, So you're going, I'm going to give you

983
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 3: my five in order, okay, and you.

984
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 4: Can yell at me because you always do all right,

985
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 4: in order.

986
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 3: Babe Ruth is one, lou gerrig Is two, of course,

987
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 3: Nickey Mantles three, Joe Demagriel's four.

988
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 4: Wrong, Yogi bears five. All right.

989
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 3: See this is how it works, Jeff, I'm gonna keep going,

990
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 3: and then I'm gonna stop Derek Jeters six, Mariano Rivera seven,

991
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 3: Whitey Ford is eight.

992
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 4: Those are my top eight. Go ahead, Buster, just shake

993
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 4: your head and tell me where I'm wrong.

994
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 5: Okay. So Mariano Rivera is on the Mount Rushmore of Yankees. Okay,

995
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 5: he's the greatest relief pitcher ever. In one hundred and

996
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 5: forty one innings in the postseason, his era was zero

997
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 5: point seven zero. He allowed two home runs in one

998
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 5: hundred and forty one postseason innings. There were guys on

999
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 5: the Atlanta Braves, Chipper Jones, John Smoltz who said to me,

1000
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 5: if we had Rivera, we would have been the team

1001
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 5: to win all those championships. Okay. He was the difference

1002
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 5: between the Yankees and so many teams in the postseason,

1003
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 5: and as great as DiMaggio was, I would have Mariano Rivera,

1004
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 5: who was at the absolute core of that dynasty, winning

1005
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 5: four championships in five years, going to the World Series

1006
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 5: five times in six years. To me, he is the

1007
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 5: Jerry Rice of his position. He's falling away the best guy.

1008
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 5: He would be one of the guys I'm mount rushmore.

1009
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: Okay, well, Dad, you have to make your argument. I'm

1010
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: going to moderate between you two.

1011
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 4: Okay.

1012
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 3: First off, the famous night where I call Buster an

1013
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 3: idiot on National TV, this was his list, and don't

1014
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: deny it because I was there. He had Babe Ruth one,

1015
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 3: he had Marianna Rivera two. He has since changed it

1016
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: to four. Okay, I'm gonna make my point, Chef, and

1017
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 3: this is all in good fun. An everyday player is

1018
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 3: more important than a closer. Joe Demajo was the everyday

1019
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 3: center fielder who won three MVPs. Yogi Barra was the

1020
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 3: everyday catcher who won three MVPs and finished second in

1021
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 3: the MVP twice. That's how I have those guys as

1022
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: my top five. I'm not disputing Marianna Rivera is the

1023
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: greatest closer ever. There is not a close second. He's

1024
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 3: a unanimous Hall of Famer. I have so much admiration

1025
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 3: for him. I'm just saying a position player who plays

1026
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 3: every day has to have more value than a closer does.

1027
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 5: Jeff, I made my point. They don't win those championships.

1028
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 5: That dynasty does not happen without Mariano Rivera, and that

1029
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 5: is the last dynasty we've seen. It may be the

1030
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 5: last dynasty we see for decade.

1031
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 4: Check before you answer. Remember you're still on my cell

1032
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 4: phone bill. Okay, So.

1033
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: I have to say my job is a lot easier

1034
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 1: than that of the presidential debate moderators.

1035
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 2: I didn't have to shut anybody's mic off or anything.

1036
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 2: No one yelled at each other.

1037
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: You guys handled this really, really well, and I'm curious what.

1038
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: People have to say.

1039
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: It is funny just being the third party here, because

1040
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: it's like two guys at the gym trying to outlift

1041
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: each other. But you're just making your baseball arguments from

1042
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: your baseball offices, right, A little bit different.

1043
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 3: Well, there's not gonna be a whole lot of weightlifted

1044
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: from me, I'm sure, but Buster, he's lifted bails a

1045
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: hey before, so I can't compete with that, I'm sure.

1046
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1047
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 5: True story. My stepdad realizing, you know, the small kid

1048
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 5: that I was, this typical size of a heybale was

1049
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 5: anywhere from fifty to seventy five pounds. He lowered it

1050
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 5: down to forty pounds when I was doing it because

1051
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 5: he's like, this kid can't handle this.

1052
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 4: Right, all right?

1053
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 2: So ess which one do you take?

1054
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 4: Which?

1055
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 5: Who made the better argument?

1056
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: I think, and it obviously comes as a very bias.

1057
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: I think an everyday player is hard to make an

1058
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: argument up against. But it's comparing apples and oranges.

1059
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 5: Right.

1060
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 1: He's the greatest closer of all time, and it isn't close.

1061
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: There's not a number two that you can even discuss.

1062
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 1: He's the only unanimous pick for the Hall of Fame.

1063
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: So I understand your point. They're both top ten players,

1064
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: of course, top five maybe for the argument. But my

1065
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: question for the two of you is, by the end

1066
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: of his career, do you think Aaron Judge will be

1067
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: on the Mount Rushmore of the New York Yankees? And

1068
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: I know both of you answer questions like this all

1069
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: the time, but as a fan of the game, I'm

1070
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: curious what you both think. Tim will start with you,

1071
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: you have sixty seconds and the mister only you will

1072
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: return your answer afterwards.

1073
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 3: Well, obviously I need to know how many years Aaron

1074
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 3: Judge is gonna play, and right now we don't know that.

1075
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 3: But if he does what he's done the last five

1076
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 3: or six years and ends up with six hundred home

1077
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 3: runs and multiple MVPs, We're gonna have to have a long,

1078
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 3: hard look at Aaron Judge. The other thing is, I mean,

1079
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 3: Yogi's got ten rings. Jeter has five rings, so does

1080
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 3: Mariano and Yogi and DiMaggio and Mantle. I mean they

1081
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 3: won so many times. So not only is Judge gonna

1082
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 3: have to run up these remarkable offensive and defensive numbers,

1083
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 3: the Yankees are gonna have to win a bunch more

1084
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 3: World Series for him to crack the Mount Rushmore of

1085
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 3: the Yankees.

1086
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 5: I don't think he has to win a bunch More

1087
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 5: World Series. I think it's a lot more difficult to

1088
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 5: win a World Series in this.

1089
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 2: Era than it was for Ruth and for Gerrik.

1090
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 5: So I'm not putting that standard on him, but I

1091
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 5: am I would agree with you if he wins one

1092
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 5: or two or three, that would really help his case.

1093
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 5: And here's something else that helps his case, you know

1094
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 5: the best, and let's just agree, Babe Ruth is the

1095
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 5: greatest Yankee of all time. The best season Lou Garrick

1096
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 5: ever had was not as good statistically as what we

1097
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 5: just saw from Aaron Judge. He had an adjusted ops

1098
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 5: plus of two twenty three. Okay, Joe Demaggio was never

1099
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 5: close to that number. Mickey Mantle never had a season

1100
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 5: like that. Derek Jeter, Yogi Bearra were way away from that,

1101
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 5: way below what Judge did this year at two twenty three.

1102
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 5: So if he has another three or four very similar seasons,

1103
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 5: and I think there's a chance, especially as he begins

1104
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 5: to transition, you know, I'm sure they'll move him out

1105
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 5: of center field here in the next couple of years,

1106
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 5: put him back in the corner he begins to dh more,

1107
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 5: I think he's got a real chance to be in

1108
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 5: that top four.

1109
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 3: Okay, let's pivot a little bit and get back into

1110
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four instead of nineteen forty eight, where I

1111
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 3: so often lived. All right, So, Buster, you did the

1112
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 3: as we did it together.

1113
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 4: That was remarkable.

1114
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 3: Just what was your biggest takeaway from what we saw

1115
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 3: between the Guardians and the Yankees.

1116
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 5: First off, it's an open question, and I spoke with

1117
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 5: aj Hans, the Tiger's manager, about this this morning. The

1118
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 5: open question as to whether or not you can win

1119
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 5: all the way through this through in October with this

1120
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 5: bullpen strategy, because in Cleveland had far and away the

1121
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 5: best bullpen during the year, and by the end of

1122
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 5: that series, those guys were just flat out gassed. And

1123
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 5: it's going to be a question for me as we

1124
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 5: go forward with the Dodgers, can they.

1125
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 4: Continue to do this?

1126
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 5: But beyond that is one Soto is the best hitter

1127
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 5: in baseball, and I'm not sure if it's necessarily close.

1128
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 5: You know, I was standing behind home plate. I was

1129
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 5: getting ready to run on the field to do the

1130
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 5: postgame interviews when that happened. So they've got those little

1131
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 5: windows in Cleveland where you can look through at home plate,

1132
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 5: and I was standing there watching SODA's plate appearance and

1133
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 5: a lot of time, you know, when he does the

1134
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 5: head nod and the Sodo shuffle, a little bit of

1135
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 5: for show, and he's trying to intimidate the pitcher. But

1136
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 5: in watching that each pitch, he was like I was

1137
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 5: on that. I saw that one. I saw that one,

1138
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 5: and the Knods got a little bit more forceful. He's

1139
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 5: commanded the strike zone, He's understanding what pitchers are trying

1140
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 5: to do, and his ability to execute a swing is

1141
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 5: so incredible. I you know, today this morning, I was

1142
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 5: talking to Carl Rabbits and we both agreed he's the

1143
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 5: best pure hitter baseball's had since Barry Bonds, just in

1144
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 5: terms of his level of execution and his understanding of

1145
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 5: the strike zone.

1146
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 3: He's the best hitter in baseball, which is really saying

1147
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 3: something when you got Otani and Judge, who will be

1148
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 3: with him of course in the World Series. But he

1149
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: has the ability to take a walk almost whenever he wants.

1150
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 3: For instance, they needed him to walk the other night

1151
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 3: Buster in order to get Judge up, and Aaron Bood

1152
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 3: told us we have sat on the bench and the

1153
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 3: count is oh two to Soto and they'll say, oh,

1154
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 3: he's gonna walk in this at bat. That's how good

1155
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 3: his pitch recognition and his swing decisions are.

1156
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 4: He's also good enough to get a hit, a single.

1157
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 3: Whatever you want to call it, almost just like Luisa

1158
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 3: Rise can do. But more important, he can also hit

1159
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 3: a three run homer. After Hunter Gaddis to put the

1160
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 3: game away.

1161
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 4: That's who Yeah Soto is.

1162
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 5: That's and that's what separates the greatest hitters is that

1163
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 5: they can do all those things. There's that great story

1164
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 5: that I heard, you know, I used to My first

1165
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 5: star that I ever covered was Tony Gwynn, who was

1166
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 5: a gift for me to cover on a daily basis

1167
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 5: because he shared so much. But there's a great story.

1168
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 5: When Bonds was in his heyday, Tony would swing that

1169
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 5: small bat. Tim you remember the dimensions, and I do.

1170
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 3: The tiniest bat I've ever seen, Jeff. It looked like

1171
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 3: one of those giveaway bats that you got when I

1172
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 3: was a little kid, the Thompson honored dairy bats at

1173
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 3: bat Day go ahead, tiniest bat ever.

1174
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 5: So he's swinging that in early batting practice. Jeff and

1175
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 5: Barry Bonds and Tony were great friends. And Barry Bonds

1176
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 5: walks out of the Giants dugout and sees Tony taking

1177
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 5: VP with a little bat. He's like, give me that thing,

1178
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 5: and he gets into the cage and he immediately peels

1179
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 5: off like eleven straight home runs into the stands at

1180
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 5: left field. As a left hand hitters like bang, bang,

1181
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 5: bang bang, and then he just flips it away, right,

1182
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 5: like get rid of this thing. This and like it

1183
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 5: was a I mean, he was making fun of Tony,

1184
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 5: but just that ability, it's sort of like each row

1185
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 5: in batting practice. You know, he to throw it two

1186
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty hits no problem in the regular season,

1187
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 5: and in batting practice. If he wanted to Tim saw this,

1188
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 5: I saw it, he would just yeah, you know what

1189
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 5: I'm gonna put. I'm gonna put six straight balls into

1190
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 5: the seats. Right. Just those guys with that special ability

1191
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 5: like that are so extraordinary, and Soda is one of those, right.

1192
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: And that at bat, Jeff, the bat that Buster and

1193
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 3: I saw, that's one of the greatest of bats I've

1194
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 3: ever seen. Not just because it ended in a three

1195
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 3: run homer to send the Yankees to the World Series

1196
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 3: for the first time since two thousand, but Buster's right,

1197
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 3: he was all over that the day he.

1198
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 4: Showed up at spring training. I'm telling you, every guy on.

1199
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 3: That team watched him and they said, that's what a

1200
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 3: professional at bat looks like. Never gives up in at bat,

1201
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 3: never gives up a pitch, and his level of focus

1202
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 3: is unbelievably high. But it's never been higher than it

1203
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 3: was against Hunter Gaddis in the tenth inning the other day.

1204
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's so exciting to have both of these

1205
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: giant teams in and as a fan of the game,

1206
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of the times people kind

1207
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: of scoff when, like the big teams make it. But

1208
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: it feels different than that, Buster. Would you agree that

1209
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: having New York and LA doing this together New York

1210
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: it's been fifteen years, LA's done it a couple times

1211
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: in the last ten, but it feels different. It feels

1212
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: like we're not hearing those complaints as much.

1213
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 2: Would you agree?

1214
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 5: Yeah? Mostly, you know, I saw Bill James, who's online

1215
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 5: and he's the godfather of all modern analytics, you know,

1216
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 5: so brilliant, But he asked the question out loud, is

1217
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 5: anyone really care about this world series? Because it's these

1218
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 5: two behemoths? And I and I don't really know Bill,

1219
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 5: but I almost fella like shot him back, shooting him

1220
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 5: a note saying, yeah they do. Like it's a big

1221
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 5: deal for a casual baseball fan, you know, like I

1222
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 5: was at eight years old just learning the game back

1223
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 5: in Vermont. To have Otani and to have Judge and

1224
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 5: to have Stanton, you know, uh, and to have one Soto,

1225
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 5: who we just talked about.

1226
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 4: On and on and on.

1227
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 5: I sent out a tweet a little while ago asking

1228
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 5: the question, how many Hall of Famers are in this

1229
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 5: World Series future Hall of Famers? Is it four? Is

1230
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 5: it five? Is it seven plus? Guys? I think it's

1231
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 5: seventh plus. So beyond the fact that you have, you know,

1232
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 5: the as Tim said on Sports Center today, the greatest

1233
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 5: World Series rivalry we've ever seen, Dodgers and Yankees. You

1234
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 5: have unbelievable players. This is the dream of ESPN Radio,

1235
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 5: of Fox Television to have these two teams facing all off. Tim,

1236
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 5: I'll throw it to you. How many Hall of Famers

1237
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 5: are in this World Series? It's crazy if you and

1238
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 5: I'll give you can include Clayton Kershaw.

1239
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 4: All right, okay, all right, well give me.

1240
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 3: Obviously it's Mookie Betts is going to the Hall of Fame. Yes, uh,

1241
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 3: you know, Otani's going to go to the Hall of Fame.

1242
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 3: Freddy Freddy Freeman's going to the Hall of Fame. Yes,

1243
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 3: Lon Soto's going to the Hall of Fame.

1244
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 5: Yep.

1245
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 4: Aaron Judges going to the Hall of Fame.

1246
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 5: Yep.

1247
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: Uh.

1248
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 3: Stanton has made a case with this postseason that he

1249
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 3: really has. If he gets to five hundred homers, he's

1250
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 3: going to the Hall of Fame. And Garrett Kershaw Kershaw

1251
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 3: and Garrett Cole with a few more seasons go look

1252
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 3: at that career winning percentage and that strikeout rate for

1253
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 3: Garrett Cole with Asy Young.

1254
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 4: Now he's got a chance to.

1255
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 5: And here's an underrated guy. Here's an underrated guy who's

1256
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 5: on early Hall of Fame trajectory. We're not gonna you know,

1257
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 5: he's not gonna be. The first name to poss to

1258
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 5: mind is Will Smith? Right, like Will Smith has an

1259
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 5: excellent start to his career. They're actually a couple of

1260
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 5: is well where you could make cases.

1261
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 2: But think about that. The players are future Hall of famers.

1262
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 4: Tim It is so great.

1263
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 3: And this is the best part about it is that

1264
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 3: Tommy Edmund, who's a really good player. Please don't get

1265
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 3: me wrong on this. He gets eleven hits and knocks

1266
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 3: in eleven runs and is the MVP of the NLCS.

1267
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 3: Steve Kerr was a great shooter. I love Steve Kerr.

1268
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 3: I've never even met him in my life. I would

1269
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 3: love to meet him, but that would be like him

1270
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 3: being the MVP of the NBA Finals playing with Jordan

1271
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 3: and Pippen. It can't happen in basketball, but it can

1272
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 3: happen in baseball.

1273
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 4: And that's why the game is so beautiful.

1274
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 3: Is that Tommy Edmund wasn't even on the team until

1275
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 3: the trade deadline ends up being the best player on

1276
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 3: the field between the Mets and the Dodgers for a

1277
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 3: six game series.

1278
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 5: Right, And baseball history is littered with those guys, the

1279
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 5: guys who step up. I mean, David Freeze, think about it.

1280
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 5: You know I bumped into you. Saw I know I

1281
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,919
Speaker 5: heard you bumped into Nelson Cruz in the bathroom at

1282
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 5: some point. I saw that I talked to Nelson the Yeah,

1283
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 5: I talked to Nelson Cruz. But you know, if not

1284
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 5: for a foot or two, I mean, David Freeze's career

1285
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 5: is so different. And now he's considered to be one

1286
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 5: of the greatest postseason players of all time who start

1287
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 5: in the greatest game ever.

1288
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 4: Right, it's just just so beautiful.

1289
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 3: All right, Buster, we got to get out of here,

1290
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 3: but just give us, give us your I don't want

1291
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 3: your prediction. We've had enough stupid predictions. And it's impossible

1292
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 3: to predict, especially in twenty twenty four. Just give me

1293
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 3: an idea what you think we're going to see in

1294
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four World Series between these teams.

1295
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm picking the Yankees because of their starting pitching

1296
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 5: is just in such a better place. You know, the

1297
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 5: Dodgers with all of the starting pitching injuries, you know,

1298
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 5: Garrett Cole and Carlos rodon you know Clark Schmidt. I

1299
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 5: think that they put the Yankees in a place where

1300
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 5: the relievers are not being seen three and four times

1301
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 5: by the same hitters. That to me was difference making

1302
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 5: in the series between Cleveland and the Yankees. And look,

1303
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 5: I mean that's what Dave you know. And this isn't

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Speaker 5: all the criticism of Dave Roberts. This is what he has,

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Speaker 5: this is what he has to do. But I do

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Speaker 5: think in the end that that winds up being a

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Speaker 5: difference maker. The one thing I'd say is this, Todds,

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Speaker 5: your offense is so good that it can create a

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Speaker 5: margin for error for their pitching staff. We saw that

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Speaker 5: in that in the series against the Mets.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Right, forty six runs scored in six games. That's the

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Speaker 3: NLCS record for most runs scored in any LCS.

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Speaker 4: That was really really impressive.

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Speaker 3: And yes, I like that Yankee starting pitching more so

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Speaker 3: I'm not doing predictions, but I think the Yankees are

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Speaker 3: better positioned. And by the way, two of those starting pitchers,

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Speaker 3: Carlos Rodon and Nestor Cortes, are born on my birthday,

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Speaker 3: December the tenth.

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Speaker 4: How weird is that?

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Speaker 3: So I don't like me, who could cover the sport

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Speaker 3: shares a birthday with two of the five starters for

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Speaker 3: the Yankees in the World Series.

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Speaker 5: That's great, Jeff. I hope you force your dad, as

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Speaker 5: I would on the podcast, to give you a prediction

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Speaker 5: and to stand by it and then rub his nose

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Speaker 5: in it every chance you get after that if it

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Speaker 5: turns out to be wrong.

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Speaker 4: I Jeff, you have to.

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Speaker 3: Make a prediction now, also, since we're in the prediction business,

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Speaker 3: which is again the stupidest idea this year because it

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Speaker 3: has defied logic on so many levels. Although maybe we

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Speaker 3: should have known Buster right from the beginning this was

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Speaker 3: destined to be a Yankee Dodger World Series.

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be the Dodgers, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's going to be in seven games.

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Speaker 2: I think the home field advantage is going to play

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Speaker 2: into it. I think the bullpen of.

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Speaker 1: The Dodgers, which was very impressive in the NLCS. I

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Speaker 1: mean two bullpen games for them. I take the Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: I take Otani.

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Speaker 2: I take the one of the.

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Speaker 1: Highest viewerships the World Series has ever seen, if not

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Speaker 1: the highest, especially for those viewers in Japan that we

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Speaker 1: saw during the NLCS was just unbelievably massive. And then

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Speaker 1: we're starting the season off in Tokyo next year. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's writing a script, but if you're

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Speaker 1: writing a script, Otani and the Dodgers have to win.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's the way it's going to be

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Speaker 2: in seven games.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And this is what I would tell Bill James too,

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Speaker 5: And this will be my prediction. This year's World Series

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Speaker 5: rating will be higher than next year's. It's gonna go down.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how the forces could be better served

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Speaker 5: for the broadcasters than it is this year.

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Speaker 4: Well, totally agree, Busser. It's been a pleasure having you here.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for being such a good sport to talk about

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01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 3: your ridiculous shooting motion and milking cows and everything else,

1359
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 3: and for giving us.

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Speaker 4: A lot of baseball inside. Thanks for helping us out.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Thank you so much to Buster Only for

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Speaker 1: being our guest. Exciting world series starting up on Friday,

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Speaker 1: and Dad one name that came up. Obviously, so many

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Speaker 1: legendary players amongst these two teams, but Joe DiMaggio came

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Speaker 1: up a whole bunch in our stratomatic simulation that we did,

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Speaker 1: and of course in as one of the greatest Yankees

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Speaker 1: of right.

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Speaker 3: And I'm going to leave you with this, Jeff, I

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Speaker 3: hope everyone understands how respectful I'm being about this. Joe DiMaggio,

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Speaker 3: for me, is one of the four greatest center fielders

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Speaker 3: of all time. He's one of the four greatest Yankees

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Speaker 3: of all time. And I met him a few times

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01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 3: and he was very very kind to me. But since

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Speaker 3: we had a bathroom story earlier in the podcast, Oh no, No,

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Speaker 3: the first time I ever met Joe Demaggio in my

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Speaker 3: life was in the bathroom at the Memorial Stadium press box.

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Speaker 3: We both kind of went in at the same time.

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Speaker 3: I didn't see him coming, and now I'm in the

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Speaker 3: bathroom with Joe DiMaggio and having arrived at the same time,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't clear who should go first, and the Joe

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Speaker 3: Demagio looked at me and he said, I gotta go

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Speaker 3: worse than you.

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Speaker 4: I'm going first. So what am I going to argue

1384
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Speaker 4: with Joe DiMaggio?

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01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 3: So the Yankee Clipper pulled down his Yankee zipper and

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Speaker 3: went to the bathroom. And I said, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: I cannot believe the first time I ever met the

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Speaker 3: great Joe DiMaggio was in the bathroom at Memorial Stadiums.

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Speaker 3: So now I have Nelson Cruz and Joe Demaggio bathroom stories,

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Speaker 3: and each one made me laugh out loud.

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Speaker 1: Well, and remember, earlier in the season, you interviewed Tony

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Speaker 1: Gwinn in a bathroom. Now you both weren't in a bathroom.

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Speaker 1: He called you and you went to the bathroom. It's

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Speaker 1: like the old John Cruck.

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Speaker 2: Were you in the hot tub? Were you in the

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Speaker 2: deer in the hot tub?

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Speaker 1: Tony Gwinn was not in the bathroom, but you took

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Speaker 1: an interview with your notebook from.

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Speaker 4: The stall right.

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Speaker 2: Anything for the story.

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Speaker 3: Write anything for the story, whether it's in the bathroom

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Speaker 3: or not.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with you next week. Every Tuesday morning,

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Speaker 1: a brand new episode. Make sure to follow wherever you're listening.

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Speaker 1: being a part of our family.