Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbal. I'm that for me. I'm
Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,
Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy
Speaker 1: for day Edith State?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 1: Woo whoo and no, Dan.
Speaker 2: And Tye, welcome back to the Solid Verbal, boys and girls.
Speaker 1: My name is ty Hildon Brandt.
Speaker 2: I am joined as always by my good friend and
Speaker 2: colleague and co host. Man here's way over there. He
Speaker 2: is in sunny New York City. His name is Dan Rubistinezer.
Speaker 1: How are you? Is it sunny?
Speaker 3: I'm all right, it's been on and off. Life has
Speaker 3: been all right. I had a lovely walk to brunch
Speaker 3: on Sunday with our pal Bill Barnwell and our pal
Speaker 3: who I don't think has been on the show, Seth Rosenthal.
Speaker 3: So that's nice to get outside some football people, sports people,
Speaker 3: but otherwise on and all. I am running again. Ty
Speaker 3: are you running? Are you taking advantage when it's sunny?
Speaker 2: I haven't yet, No, No, but I will. I absolutely will.
Speaker 3: It's been it's been a while since I've been able
Speaker 3: to run because of my foot, my dumb foot injury.
Speaker 3: But I'm back out hitting the pavement and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tell you something right now, completely unrelated, please, well, sort
Speaker 3: of related, because I always like to tinker with what
Speaker 3: I listened to. Sometimes I'll start with music and I'll
Speaker 3: just ease into a podcast to just sort of keep
Speaker 3: the pace. But lately I've just been doing sprints sort
Speaker 3: of more circuit stuff, so it doesn't really matter to
Speaker 3: zone out or not to zone out to music or podcasts,
Speaker 3: so I haven't really cared as much. But underrated song
Speaker 3: not to get you hyped, because I don't like being
Speaker 3: hyped while running, but to just sort of get energy
Speaker 3: up before you do something like a podcast. I just
Speaker 3: listened to insyncts It's Gonna be Me four times before
Speaker 3: hitting records tonight, and it is a wonderful jam. It
Speaker 3: will be a wonderful jam. And the Backstreet Boys did
Speaker 3: nothing to even come close to It's gonna be Me.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be Me, It's gonna come about that, gonna
Speaker 3: be my.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be May May He says that, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be my.
Speaker 2: Well, it is getting nice out. The calendar has turned
Speaker 2: to April, and with April comes a lot of spring
Speaker 2: football chatter, which I'm sure we'll get into in due time.
Speaker 2: But one of the things we've been trying to do
Speaker 2: now in the off season because we really truly do
Speaker 2: get an unclimbable everest as you once refer to it,
Speaker 2: of questions that we read and can't answer all the time.
Speaker 2: So we've been trying to do more regular Q and
Speaker 2: A type shows, and we've got one in front of
Speaker 2: us this evening. We didn't put out a call earlier
Speaker 2: today to get questions, and the everest got a little
Speaker 2: bit taller. I don't know if I've ever seen so
Speaker 2: many questions come in in such a short period of time.
Speaker 1: So we've got football, we've got non football, a lot
Speaker 1: of life tonight, a lot of life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just going to try and run the gamut here, yes,
Speaker 2: and see if we can't help her for ballers out, Dan, absolutely, is.
Speaker 3: There anything news wise that you want to get into
Speaker 3: anything with the NFL Draft that has been standing out
Speaker 3: to you. We had Brian Kelly call out to Sean
Speaker 3: Kaiser as not being particular ready. I think he said
Speaker 3: it in a concern not criticism kind of way. I know,
Speaker 3: you know, we don't we shouldn't talk about Notre Dame
Speaker 3: unless we absolutely have to at this point. But it's
Speaker 3: a fair in general because this is something we saw
Speaker 3: with Pete Carroll and Mark Sanchez, we saw it with Jimora,
Speaker 3: and I believe Brett Hunley to different degrees. Brett Hunley
Speaker 3: and I want to say Miles Jack last year that
Speaker 3: they sort of should have come back for different reasons.
Speaker 3: Do you think a college coach should be should be
Speaker 3: backing his prospect one percent? Or do you think that
Speaker 3: there is a bit of integrity involved in being as
Speaker 3: forthright as possible, so when you do say this guy
Speaker 3: is amazing, it holds more weight.
Speaker 2: I think they should be honest. I'm not sure if
Speaker 2: they should do it out. I'm not sure if they
Speaker 2: should do it publicly.
Speaker 3: It seems strange, especially when recruiting, evaluating quarterbacks is already
Speaker 3: so difficult, and to send a message and to have
Speaker 3: you know, Notre Dame competes against everybody because they recruit nationally,
Speaker 3: and so you could have a coach at Stanford, you
Speaker 3: could have coach at Texas, you could have a coach
Speaker 3: at Alabama, you could have a coach at Florida, at
Speaker 3: Florida State wherever. They can all say Brian Kelly's not
Speaker 3: gonna have your back, and that's pretty rough.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I still think Brian Kelly should be able to recruit quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: He's had some success with them, but yeah, not the
Speaker 3: best of looks. But I understand sometimes why the honesty
Speaker 3: is necessary. Well do you think do you think Deshaun
Speaker 3: Kai do you think that was a fair statement?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely a fair statement. I'm also not going to
Speaker 2: say he made the wrong decision going because it looks
Speaker 2: like he'll probably be a borderline first round He's going
Speaker 2: to go fairly high in the draft. He's not at
Speaker 2: all at risk of going undrafted. He'll find a team
Speaker 2: next year.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 2: The other thing that I should point out about Brian Kelly,
Speaker 2: it's a more interesting high wire act for him because
Speaker 2: there have been plenty of rumors about Brian Kelly potentially
Speaker 2: jumping to the NFL at some point.
Speaker 3: Right now, this is true, and maybe he is looking
Speaker 3: at this as his last year at Notre Dame, and
Speaker 3: so he's trying to seem so honest and forthright about
Speaker 3: quarterback evaluations to seem like an NFL coach in waiting,
Speaker 3: who knows.
Speaker 2: We are going way down the rabbit hole here? Is
Speaker 2: there anything else in the news.
Speaker 3: I don't believe that, if I'm reading this correctly, I
Speaker 3: don't believe MAC teams will be playing on Saturdays in November.
Speaker 1: Did you see this? I saw what's that about.
Speaker 3: Basically, they're going all out to get as much attention
Speaker 3: as possible. And while it's true that a lot of people,
Speaker 3: especially on social media, turned to action as a sort
Speaker 3: of fixed midweek, I know the ACC likes playing on
Speaker 3: Thursday nights and that certainly gets that conference attention, but
Speaker 3: I it hurts me a little bit. It hurts me
Speaker 3: a little that there is a conference that year after
Speaker 3: year generates interesting players, interesting games, sometimes without defense, which
Speaker 3: is fine, everybody needs an identity. But the fact that
Speaker 3: TV is instructing college football to this degree and affecting it,
Speaker 3: I think we've sort of accepted, but it still hurts
Speaker 3: to sort of see it reflected on the schedule to
Speaker 3: this degree. Saturdays are for football. Saturdays are for you.
Speaker 3: You're off work, you get to go to even though
Speaker 3: it's probably cold in the Midwest and November, there's something
Speaker 3: about tailgating in the morning, and right you know, there's
Speaker 3: the communal thing that's sort of lost.
Speaker 1: I think on Thursday night games.
Speaker 2: So Jason Kirk, in the oft mentioned read option newslatyer
Speaker 2: that goes out every day talks about college football.
Speaker 1: If you're not subscribing, you should. He does a great job.
Speaker 2: He has college Football Game Day power rankings, Saturday being
Speaker 2: number one, obviously. He then goes Sunday, Monday, Thursday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday. Right,
Speaker 2: do you agree with that? Does that feel right to you? Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Thursday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday.
Speaker 2: The early week games to me really throw me off schedule,
Speaker 2: So I would probably put those way.
Speaker 1: At the bottom.
Speaker 3: I think I agree with his rankings, maybe exactly. The
Speaker 3: defensive Tuesday games is this. It's general if you're into
Speaker 3: the NFL, you have Sunday, Monday, and now Thursday, and
Speaker 3: it's nice to get some time off if you're an
Speaker 3: NFL fan and whatever. But there's no football on Sunday's
Speaker 3: college wise. There's no football on Monday's college wise other
Speaker 3: than Week one, and Tuesday sort of doesn't happen until
Speaker 3: later in the season, right, doesn't happen until November, Okay,
Speaker 3: So that sort of feels like you're at a restaurant
Speaker 3: and your server takes a particular liking to you and
Speaker 3: slips you some extra biscuits or it's like, oh wow,
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't order it, but this is here
Speaker 3: they are. And there's just that the bonus quality of
Speaker 3: Tuesday football that I mean, TV, at least network TV
Speaker 3: is sort of worse, and that there's so much to
Speaker 3: choose from now with Netflix and whatever and whatever, and
Speaker 3: sometimes you just want to instead of watching those shows
Speaker 3: that you have to focus on to a huge degree,
Speaker 3: just kind of want to like sit on your couch
Speaker 3: with your laptop maybe browse stuff with having football in
Speaker 3: the background as sort of a screen saver. I think
Speaker 3: that's the beauty of Tuesday night football. You don't have
Speaker 3: to pay attention to it. I'm not a fin Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm not a fan. I might put bonus biscuits is
Speaker 3: number seven. You're not wrong, but I'm just saying I'm
Speaker 3: not a fan.
Speaker 2: Okay, anything else that caught your eye, Dan, No, not really.
Speaker 1: I think we could just get into the action.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about NFL draft stuff as that sneaks up
Speaker 3: a little bit closer. When is the NFL Draft, I believe,
Speaker 3: as we're recording this on Wednesday, April fifth, it will
Speaker 3: be three weeks from tomorrow, will be the first round.
Speaker 2: All right, we got to figure out figure out a
Speaker 2: show then, and yes we'll get we'll get an NFL
Speaker 2: show together.
Speaker 3: Well, don't phrase it like that. We will get a
Speaker 3: recently departed college football player.
Speaker 1: Shake you going, thank you.
Speaker 2: We'll get a college prospects moving to the NFL show,
Speaker 2: thank you, relatively soon.
Speaker 1: So stay tuned.
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Speaker 2: All right, dum, We've got a long laundry list here
Speaker 2: of the items that people have sought to discuss with
Speaker 2: us or sought to have us discuss amongst ourselves.
Speaker 1: Dan, where do you want to start?
Speaker 3: Uh, let's skip around, but we're going to go some football,
Speaker 3: some life, some other topics whatever. Let's start with josh
Speaker 3: at the top of this list. It was pretty recent,
Speaker 3: but he asked if the Gators are Joshua is how
Speaker 3: he's listed. If the Gators go ten and four every
Speaker 3: year but get demolished by Florida State whoever the SEC
Speaker 3: West champ is and their bowl opponent, will they ever
Speaker 3: fire mech I feel like they have a mark Rick
Speaker 3: situation brewing in Gainesville. By that, I assume he means
Speaker 3: a perennial good team, but not great team, which a
Speaker 3: number of programs would take.
Speaker 1: Not getting over the hump syndrome correct.
Speaker 3: Not getting past you know that that out back Bowl
Speaker 3: ceiling or that lower tier former BC New Year's Day
Speaker 3: that is not watched by many people. I will say,
Speaker 3: I think it's harder and harder, given how national the
Speaker 3: sport has become to just sort of have a beloved coach.
Speaker 3: Mark Richt was in Athens forever and became beloved, and
Speaker 3: even when he was let go, it seemed like people
Speaker 3: really liked him even as he left, which is very
Speaker 3: rarely the case, and I think Mack is fairly likable.
Speaker 3: I don't know if people have been huge fans of
Speaker 3: his recruiting and quarterback play early on. It's not entirely
Speaker 3: his faults, but I think with the expectations at Florida
Speaker 3: being a recent multiple time national champion, the hump will
Speaker 3: need to be cleared within the next two or three
Speaker 3: years or he.
Speaker 1: Will be gone. I just think that's the level.
Speaker 2: They've also got some recent tradition of performing in the
Speaker 2: postseason with Urban Meyer true That's what I'm saying, right,
Speaker 2: So I feel like that makes it a little bit
Speaker 2: more difficult for a guy like a Jim mckawain. It's
Speaker 2: a long painful death in most cases when you've got
Speaker 2: this inability to get over the hump. And not to
Speaker 2: say that things went totally off the rails, although Mark
Speaker 2: Rick did lose control wink, we touched nudgeways. It's sort
Speaker 2: of a long painful process when you see this happening.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: What I am most curious about is if he can
Speaker 2: find a quarterback, because he came in on this assumption
Speaker 2: that he would instantly breathe new life into the Florida offense,
Speaker 2: and he has not done that yet. He's now had
Speaker 2: some time to get his guys in there, and he's
Speaker 2: going to have an opportunity now to start anew with
Speaker 2: a young quarterback. So we'll see if he's able to
Speaker 2: move things a little bit more forward. It helps that
Speaker 2: he's got the defense. The defense is going to keep
Speaker 2: me in a lot of games. I don't see that
Speaker 2: changing anytime soon because defensive talent at Florida has pretty
Speaker 2: much been a mainstay of the last I don't know
Speaker 2: what five to eight years. It's just always been pretty
Speaker 2: rock solid. If they that's absolutely If they can get
Speaker 2: an offense in place, I think the risk of not
Speaker 2: getting over the hump syndrome will be drastically reduced. But
Speaker 2: to your point, there is definitely not as much allegiance
Speaker 2: to a guy like a mcawaine as I think there
Speaker 2: was to a guy like a Mark Rick.
Speaker 3: I think that's fair and urban. Meyer, you know, gave
Speaker 3: himself such a long road by winning like he did
Speaker 3: early on in his career. And granted, I don't think
Speaker 3: a number of those players recruited by Meyer and his staff.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, this is a it's it's
Speaker 3: weird to say it, but twenty seventeen is different from
Speaker 3: like two thousand and eight. Oh yes, just it feels
Speaker 3: like such a different world college football and outside. So
Speaker 3: I think it'll be tough. Next question is from our
Speaker 3: friend Brian, a longtime UCLA fan, and he wants to
Speaker 3: know about ty What school do you think he wants
Speaker 3: to know about?
Speaker 1: UCLA?
Speaker 3: Is Jim Mora's seat actually hot or just the warmest
Speaker 3: in the Pac twelve? Seems rich Rod is getting there,
Speaker 3: but expectations aren't as high in Arizona. I thought, I
Speaker 3: think it's hot, don't you. I think it's warming up.
Speaker 3: Like I don't think it's that he's on fire. I
Speaker 3: think it's on he's heating up. I think it's in
Speaker 3: that place because you go three and nine in a
Speaker 3: place with a good amount of talent and have a
Speaker 3: team that not only wins the Rose Bowl, but now
Speaker 3: everybody's saying, oh, the presumptive twenty eighteen number one overall
Speaker 3: pick is the USC quarterback, whereas it was a few
Speaker 3: months ago the UCLA quarterback. And you play in a
Speaker 3: big stadium, and you have a basketball team that is
Speaker 3: going deep into the tournament, and it is high profile
Speaker 3: as UCLA basketball is that there is this sort of
Speaker 3: tradition at UCLA or expectation of at UCLA to perform
Speaker 3: on a Rose Bowl challenging stage, and it's I guess
Speaker 3: it also depends on who can you get, Like if
Speaker 3: they can get Chip Kelly or something like that, if
Speaker 3: Chip Kelly's doing TV and he's in La anyway and
Speaker 3: sort of likes it out west as we know, maybe,
Speaker 3: But at the same time, is the UCLA job as
Speaker 3: attractive as it may look from where we sit three
Speaker 3: thousand miles away that like, oh, it's a beautiful school,
Speaker 3: you know, a great athletic program, but you're also number
Speaker 3: two in your city and it's a decidedly basketball school
Speaker 3: in a stadium that you don't fill up because it's
Speaker 3: obviously enormous, that's far away from campus. There's some challenges.
Speaker 3: So I think it's a matter of who does UCL I.
Speaker 1: Think they can get. I think that will determine the
Speaker 1: temperature of his seat.
Speaker 2: I think it's actually hot. I agree with you that
Speaker 2: it's not scalding hot. You mentioned USC. There's obviously always
Speaker 2: going to be this need to keep up with the
Speaker 2: Joneses across town in USC and US. He's about to
Speaker 2: load up. They've got Sam Darnold coming back, a ton
Speaker 2: of talent on both sides of the football. US He's
Speaker 2: coming off that Rose Bowl win. As you mentioned, They're
Speaker 2: going to be pretty solid in twenty seventeen, no doubt
Speaker 2: about it. Not only that, but you've also got a
Speaker 2: ton of coaching talent in the PAC twelve North. The
Speaker 2: playoff team from the PAC twelve came from the PAC
Speaker 2: twelve North Washington.
Speaker 3: There is yet to be a PAC twelve South Conference
Speaker 3: champion absolutely, so the PAC twelve North has loaded up
Speaker 3: on coaching talent. I feel like the PAC twelve is
Speaker 3: probably in the conversation for the best conference in college
Speaker 3: football in twenty seventeen. The profiles has definitely been raised
Speaker 3: a bit given what Washington did, and with Josh Rosen
Speaker 3: now coming back from injury, there is an expectation that
Speaker 3: he will take the next step in his development. Only
Speaker 3: played half the season last year. But if he comes
Speaker 3: back healthy and doesn't deliver the goods, if UCLA just
Speaker 3: sort of sputters around the five hundred marks, seven and five,
Speaker 3: even eight and four, I think there will be a
Speaker 3: real push to go a different direction at UCLA.
Speaker 1: So I think you're right fair.
Speaker 3: Next question comes to us from I believe his name
Speaker 3: is Quinn the Day, so he's an Ole Miss fan
Speaker 3: because they're also win the Day. He wants to know up,
Speaker 3: I lost my Google doc. We think will be the
Speaker 3: leading rusher in the Pac twelve, so we'll stay on
Speaker 3: that topic.
Speaker 2: I think it's either Miles Gaskin or Royce Freeman, right,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: It's probably coming out of the North. It could be
Speaker 3: Bryce Love. We know that Stanford offensive line has paved
Speaker 3: the way for some large chunks these past few years.
Speaker 3: I would feel better about USC considering how talented Ronald
Speaker 3: Jones is, but they're replacing a good chunk of their
Speaker 3: offensive line. Also, not to say that the new guys
Speaker 3: won't be as good, but it's a little bit worrisome.
Speaker 3: I think they're going to want to show off Sam
Speaker 3: Darnold and his ability, and we'll be throwing the ball
Speaker 3: pretty often. So I'm going to take the Homer pick
Speaker 3: and go Royce Freeman because even though that is a
Speaker 3: deep core of running back, still they return a number
Speaker 3: of big offensive linemen and I think five starting offensive
Speaker 3: lineman if you can include Tyrol Crosby who's out for
Speaker 3: most of last year. So I'm going to go with
Speaker 3: that retooled offense and Royce Freeman succeeding as a senior.
Speaker 2: I will just for the hell of it, go Miles Gaskin.
Speaker 2: That's a good tick to take an opposing side. But
Speaker 2: Royce Freeman is a very compelling pick. He's a bigger
Speaker 2: running back, He's got top end speed. I think I
Speaker 2: saw over the span of his career he's averaged something
Speaker 2: like six yards per carry. He is very much a
Speaker 2: big game kind of running back. But Miles Gaskin also
Speaker 2: plays in a very friendly system if you are a
Speaker 2: running back. He's got a good quarterback, and we know
Speaker 2: that Chris Peterson's building something. He had a great year
Speaker 2: last year, so Sa'll go with him.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem with the Miles Gaskin thing.
Speaker 3: Even though he's as talented as a lot of these guys,
Speaker 3: most of the time he's sharing carries with Lavon Coleman,
Speaker 3: who a lot of would argue is the better running
Speaker 3: back in that backfield.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm only going Gaskin because you pick Freeman.
Speaker 3: That's fair. I listen, I understand the hate. Stay petty, Yes,
Speaker 3: let's go. Oh, this is interesting because we're talking about
Speaker 3: the draft, next year's draft. Who are the big names
Speaker 3: that are standing out to you defensively for next year's
Speaker 3: draft that will be the first defensive player off the board.
Speaker 3: He submits arden Key, the very good defensive end for Lsu,
Speaker 3: Deron Payne Alabama, DeShawn hand Alabama, MIKEA. Fitzpatrick Alabama. I
Speaker 3: think there's a good, little, good little trend going on
Speaker 3: with his picks. But the defensive lineman for Ohio State
Speaker 3: are really good. Sam Hubbard and Taekwon Lewis I believe
Speaker 3: will be I mean Taekwon Lewis is a senior, so
Speaker 3: he will be very good. We'll see how Derwin James.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, what about big Bet that's your bag, James. Yeah,
Speaker 3: somebody that versatile. I think is a real nice pick.
Speaker 1: Kind of a little off the radar because he was hurt.
Speaker 2: He had the knee injury, and perhaps that's why he's
Speaker 2: not one of the suggested names in this conversation. But
Speaker 2: arden Key was unstoppable at LSU. Good.
Speaker 1: He's versatile, he can play in almost any system.
Speaker 2: Mika Fitzpatrick I think is a good, reliable defensive back.
Speaker 2: He will clearly find work at the next level. I
Speaker 2: mentioned Irwin James, my boy Malik Jefferson, Uh huh, he's
Speaker 2: gonna be in the mix.
Speaker 1: Moving to the outside. Yeah.
Speaker 3: In Todd Orlando's system. I'm going to give you a
Speaker 3: wild card name. Yeah, the defensive end from Kansas. I
Speaker 3: believe led the Big twelve, which is not a huge
Speaker 3: accomplishment defensively in any category. I apologize his name is
Speaker 3: it's Durance Armstrong. I want to say yeah, but he's
Speaker 3: he started receiving attention because David Beatty was the guy
Speaker 3: who recruited Miles Garrett, tex A and m and has
Speaker 3: said he sees a lot of the same qualities, but
Speaker 3: he had like twenty tackles for a loss last year
Speaker 3: and has become I mean, he's not huge. I think
Speaker 3: he's only about two fifty two sixty, but has become
Speaker 3: pretty unblockable.
Speaker 1: And I think we'll start shooting up draft boards.
Speaker 3: Whenever you have that dominant player on the not great team,
Speaker 3: right that that pop size it helps.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, where are we going next? Which Pac five
Speaker 1: Pack five?
Speaker 3: Which power five school with new head coaches the best
Speaker 3: chance of going to their conference championship?
Speaker 1: Tie? Wow?
Speaker 3: Okay, so the Pac twelve, it's just believe Willy Taggart
Speaker 3: and Oregon, oh and Justin Wilcox.
Speaker 2: And Cal Not a bad chance for Willy Taggart. I'm
Speaker 2: riding down Oregon.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: In the Big twelve, there is no conference? Is there
Speaker 3: a conference championship this year?
Speaker 1: Is it not? There is?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: It's okay, there is? Yeah, new coaches in the Big twelve.
Speaker 3: Tom Herman, Mmm, interesting, I believe that's I mean, Matt Rule,
Speaker 3: I know that's not going to believe.
Speaker 1: That's not going to be the pick. So Oregon in
Speaker 1: Texas right now?
Speaker 3: ACC wise, who's new in the ACC, Tye. I don't
Speaker 3: see any that are new in the ACC, so it's
Speaker 3: not gonna be anybody in the ACC. We did Big twelve,
Speaker 3: Big ten. You have Tom Allen in Indiana. No, I
Speaker 3: don't see that happening. Early would love if it did.
Speaker 1: PJ.
Speaker 2: Fleck att Minnesota, I don't see it.
Speaker 1: I don't see it, Tye. But that is the Big ten.
Speaker 3: West Wisconsin has a lot of changes, lost their defensive coordinator,
Speaker 3: Justin Wilcox. Iowa sort of a new look offense this
Speaker 3: year with CJ.
Speaker 1: Bethar gone. Nebraska.
Speaker 3: I've heard from a few different people that if there
Speaker 3: is a team that goes from eight nine wins to
Speaker 3: like five six, it might be Nebraska. Okay, that's that's
Speaker 3: the scuttle. As our friend what's his name, Ted Miller
Speaker 3: in the Pac twelve likes to say the scuttle and
Speaker 3: Jeff Brohm at Purdue. I don't see that little Early
Speaker 3: for that, But what the PJ. Fleck thing is interesting
Speaker 3: to me. That's a nine and four team. I just
Speaker 3: in terms of comparing against the other options. Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: I would say if I'm picking between Oregon and Texas,
Speaker 2: Texas is probably a safer play because the PAC twelve
Speaker 2: North is going to be absolutely loaded, true, so by
Speaker 2: default we'll go Texas there.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 3: Next question, let's go to or starting with all the
Speaker 3: football ones. Actually, let's stay on that subject mentioned Justin
Speaker 3: Wilcox thoughts on the new coaching staf at Cal. So
Speaker 3: obviously this all happens sort of after the initial hiring Binge. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because Cal did not let go of Sonny Dykes until
Speaker 3: later on in the process. Justin Wilcox has hired a
Speaker 3: couple of former Oregon slash Ship Kelly coaches, Steve Graywood
Speaker 3: on the offensive line, Jerry Aznaro on the d line,
Speaker 3: so he'd be interested in our thoughts. Do you feel
Speaker 3: confident in Cal improving to beyond just consistently Bowl eligible,
Speaker 3: in being a reason why the PAC twelve is deep? No,
Speaker 3: like sort of a Colorado of the future.
Speaker 1: No, I don't.
Speaker 3: I really like the the offensive coordinator higher Bob Baldwin,
Speaker 3: the head coach Eastern Washington. So Justin Wilcox has been
Speaker 3: a good defensive mind recently.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that they've moved away from like the
Speaker 2: air raid that Sonny Dikes had. I feel like it's
Speaker 2: gonna take some time for will Cox. If he is
Speaker 2: the guy to bill cal up into that program, it's
Speaker 2: going to take him a while to recruit personnel, to
Speaker 2: get his system in place, and to get that wheel
Speaker 2: turn in. So if it does happen, it's not going
Speaker 2: to happen overnight. There's a lot of work to do
Speaker 2: at cal especially on the defensive side of the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they've got some offensive talent, they're okay, But defensively that's
Speaker 2: an area where I think he can bring a lot
Speaker 2: to the table. For me, it's a question of how
Speaker 2: quickly can he implement his defensive schemes to maybe turn
Speaker 2: that ship around a little bit. So it's tough for
Speaker 2: me to view cal As like any kind of alpha
Speaker 2: dog who's going to steal or poach top recruits from
Speaker 2: so many of the other schools out in California or
Speaker 2: in the Pac twelve North, because there's just so much
Speaker 2: AMO out there now, what with Oregon and Stanford down south,
Speaker 2: with UCLA and USC there are so many other options
Speaker 2: if you're looking in that part of the world to
Speaker 2: go and play your football, that it feels like it's
Speaker 2: going to take CAL a little bit longer to build
Speaker 2: up its reputation enough to attract that top echelon of talent.
Speaker 3: Here's one of the weird things and our pals that
Speaker 3: shutdown Fullcast discussed this a few weeks ago. Cal has
Speaker 3: put a crap ton of players into the NFL. Now,
Speaker 3: what's his name, Justin Wilcox cannot claim any of them, obviously,
Speaker 3: but there is something about Cal and the talent they
Speaker 3: do attract that has, for whatever reason, played well into
Speaker 3: getting drafteding to getting onto NFL teams. Right now, you
Speaker 3: have Tyson Alualu, Keenan Allen, c J Anderson, Aaron Aaron
Speaker 3: Rodgers is not bad at football. Jared Goff was number
Speaker 3: one overall pick, even if he's not good. That is
Speaker 3: a very public thing. Alex mac Mitchell Schwartz, all these
Speaker 3: guys are really good and making a ton of money
Speaker 3: and products of CAL. So I think you can succeed
Speaker 3: through Cal. You can get attention through Cal. And there's
Speaker 3: talent in the East Bay, there's talent in Central California.
Speaker 3: You do have the academic standards which make it a
Speaker 3: little more difficult, But Stanford is able to do it.
Speaker 3: Cal campus is beautiful if you like living in a city,
Speaker 3: Berkeley is weird and cool. It's just it's a tough pull.
Speaker 3: It is a tough pull with your If you're in
Speaker 3: the North and you have offers from powers in the
Speaker 3: PAC twelve North, you have offers from Washington, Stanford, and Oregon,
Speaker 3: Cal's a tough sell. Now, these coaches are very good,
Speaker 3: and I think they can get a lot out of
Speaker 3: like high level three star guys, but they are going
Speaker 3: to need to build a ton of depth and they're
Speaker 3: going to need to hit on so many of those
Speaker 3: high three star guys if they're going to start challenging
Speaker 3: for eight or nine winsy, it's.
Speaker 2: It's gonna take a couple of years of getting blood
Speaker 2: from a stone before before they can build up reputation
Speaker 2: enough to maybe win some of those recruiting battles.
Speaker 1: You'll win a couple here and there.
Speaker 2: But but would I rather coach Cal or would I
Speaker 2: rather coach like Minnesota Purdue?
Speaker 3: Now the answer can I'd rather coach Cal than Kansas State,
Speaker 3: even though Kansas State's in that eight nine category Right now,
Speaker 3: it's just so much tricky. I'd rather coach Cal than
Speaker 3: Boston College. Yeah, coach Cal then maybe even like NC State,
Speaker 3: I think they're in a similar position except for maybe
Speaker 3: the academics. It's tough, but I like Cal's very lean
Speaker 3: advantages over a number of schools in similar places.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a bad job at all. I
Speaker 2: think it's a very attractive job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, timing's not great though.
Speaker 2: Timing's not great, and it does come with a unique
Speaker 2: set of challenges of obviously being in a very deep
Speaker 2: conference and having some you know, academic stuff as well
Speaker 2: that needs to be considered. So yeah, I like the job.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to take him some time. I
Speaker 2: am not confident in him being that guy to take
Speaker 2: them to the next level, but I think there is
Speaker 2: potential there.
Speaker 3: All right, final football question then if if you want
Speaker 3: less football, if you want more football, whatever, you can
Speaker 3: go elsewhere, and that's cool. If you want some life stuff,
Speaker 3: we're going to do that. Final question from Joe. If
Speaker 3: South Florida's offense is similar to last year and considering
Speaker 3: their strength of schedule, which by the way, choice, Yeah,
Speaker 3: all things point to the balls being favored in pass
Speaker 3: all twelve games next year outside of maybe Bama, what
Speaker 3: other teams can you say that about? So look, I
Speaker 3: am not going to go through everybody's schedule. Here, here's
Speaker 3: the deal. Yeah, there's only one member of the broadcasting
Speaker 3: duo who surveyed the landscape of college football last year
Speaker 3: pointed to one team way out on the West coast,
Speaker 3: particularly in the Pac twelve North.
Speaker 2: And said that team way over their tie. I don't
Speaker 2: see a loss in that schedule.
Speaker 1: I don't see a loss on that schedule. Only one
Speaker 1: member I'm holding up one finger.
Speaker 2: Only one member of the broadcasting duo had the audacity
Speaker 2: to go there.
Speaker 1: Very early on. It was you.
Speaker 2: So if anyone's going to answer this question, it's certainly
Speaker 2: not me and my TCU playoff picks.
Speaker 1: I believe it would be you. So give us your prediction.
Speaker 2: Is there anyone else other than USF that might fall
Speaker 2: into this category?
Speaker 3: So I'm going to get do you have the hype
Speaker 3: train sound ready for me? More of a hype machine
Speaker 3: than a tripe machine.
Speaker 1: I'll get on that. Yeah. Yeah, it's very industrial USC.
Speaker 1: Right now.
Speaker 3: USC's road schedule is as follows. They're at Cal they're
Speaker 3: at Washington State, They're at Notre Dame, they're at Arizona State,
Speaker 3: they're at Colorado. As it appears right now, the US
Speaker 3: seed is in a better position than all of those teams.
Speaker 3: Is that not unfair?
Speaker 1: Fair? Very fair?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they have Stamford and Texas at home in
Speaker 3: consecutive weeks early on in the season. But it's at USC,
Speaker 3: it's in the coliseum, and I.
Speaker 1: Believe they in looking at.
Speaker 3: Their schedule, they don't play Washington and they don't play Oregon.
Speaker 3: So those were the two places that if they were.
Speaker 1: On the road.
Speaker 3: Obviously they wouldn't be on the road against Washington this
Speaker 3: year after going up to Seattle last year, that you
Speaker 3: could see, okay, they'll be like zero point and a
Speaker 3: half dogs. But as of right now, I mean, the
Speaker 3: best possibility would be Notre Dame's completely retool offense and
Speaker 3: defense looking really good, and then Notre Dame will probably
Speaker 3: be you know, six and one, seven and zero at
Speaker 3: that point and they would be Docs going to the
Speaker 3: South Bend. But other than that, tie, yeah, USC should
Speaker 3: be favored in all their games.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: I like that, and it's bold too to go right
Speaker 2: into the teeth of what is certain to be a
Speaker 2: pretty formidable hype train, hype machine, if you will. As
Speaker 2: we enter twenty seventeen, US He's always in that discussion
Speaker 2: to begin with. This year might be second to none,
Speaker 2: given the fact that Sam Darnold is coming back and
Speaker 2: they had a really strong finish to their twenty sixteen season.
Speaker 3: Actually, you know what, I will say, Washington at this
Speaker 3: point too. They're at Stanford late in the year. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying they're going to be favored. I'm not saying
Speaker 3: they're going undefeated. But non conference is Rutgers, Montana, Fresno State,
Speaker 3: road schedule, Colorado, Oregon State, Arizona State. Until they get
Speaker 3: to that Stanford game in middle of in the middle
Speaker 3: of November, They've Oregon at home, They've UCLA at home.
Speaker 3: That's that's a pretty sweet sketch, Ty. I don't think
Speaker 3: any one's as clear cut as us F. They're obviously
Speaker 3: not playing in the Pac twelve, but there are some
Speaker 3: picks out there on the West coast. Yeah, sure, all right, Ty,
Speaker 3: you have lots of thoughts about this, even though you're
Speaker 3: not the most well traveled person in the world. Which
Speaker 3: is the best regional Fried chicken Chain, Raisin Caines, Zaxby's, Bojangles,
Speaker 3: or I guess other you lead the Chick fil A
Speaker 3: is I guess Chick fil A is not regional anymore,
Speaker 3: and Popeye's is national. So of those three, I've not
Speaker 3: had any of these. Oh okay, I have not had Zaxby's.
Speaker 3: Everybody that I've spoken to personally says Zaxby's is pretty good.
Speaker 1: It's fuck. It's like an eight and four team year
Speaker 1: over year, an eight and fourteen, that's fine.
Speaker 3: I think this depends on what you go for fried
Speaker 3: chicken wise, So like Raisin Canes is a tender place
Speaker 3: through and through, if you love tenders, if you like sauces,
Speaker 3: the answer is probably Raising can Bojangles. I like that
Speaker 3: they have Cajun fries. I like their tenders as well,
Speaker 3: but I think their fried chicken is better. So I'm
Speaker 3: going Bojangles here. Bojangles is largely in the Southeast. There
Speaker 3: is one in DC's train station. Uh, I think I'm
Speaker 3: going Bojangles.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to take your word for it. I
Speaker 2: have no idea. The only monkey wrench I was gonna
Speaker 2: throw in here was that. You know, I've only ever
Speaker 2: been a Chick fil A as it relates to chicken places,
Speaker 2: so I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'd be curious. Have you never been to Popeyes? I've
Speaker 1: not been to a Popeies either.
Speaker 2: What swear to God, there are no Popeyes around here.
Speaker 2: The only Popeyes around here in Eastern PA closed down.
Speaker 3: That's as much of an indictment on your region of
Speaker 3: the country.
Speaker 2: I I know. I'm not arguing. I'm just saying I
Speaker 2: do not have easy access to a Popeyes.
Speaker 1: I like the caje and fries of Bojangles.
Speaker 3: I like the the more the bigger spread of chicken
Speaker 3: options at Bojangles than Canes. But I love Canes too,
Speaker 3: Don't do not get me wrong. I will happily go
Speaker 3: to Canes for a giant bag or box or whatever
Speaker 3: of Tendo's.
Speaker 1: A giant bag, Okay, giant bag.
Speaker 3: Jason wants to know is there ever an acceptable public
Speaker 3: place where birkenstocks? I say that's a hard no, but
Speaker 3: my friends disagree. Thoughts, do you know what birkenstocks are?
Speaker 2: Are?
Speaker 1: Are those of sandals?
Speaker 3: They are like the Jesus sandals. They're often leather buckle
Speaker 3: like two buckles. Yeah, slip in, slip out, kind of thing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're not the coolest looking thing, ty, but what do
Speaker 3: you think.
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 2: I have a strong opinion on Birkenstocks. We've made the
Speaker 2: case on this program time and time again that you know,
Speaker 2: as it relates to socks, right, you want to make
Speaker 2: sure that your feet are comfortable. Right, So if you
Speaker 2: achieve the this is burkin stocks, not burkin socks. No, No,
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is, as it relates to feet, Dan,
Speaker 2: comfort is everything.
Speaker 1: Feeling as comfortable as your feet? Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if the Birkenstocks give you the level of comfort
Speaker 2: that you require and you don't care about being fashioned forward,
Speaker 2: different strokes for different folks, Man, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2: I don't personally own them. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: ever will. I just don't have a hot take on it.
Speaker 2: Here is my official take.
Speaker 3: My take is tie as correct, and I would add this,
Speaker 3: in the last year, when my foot has started giving
Speaker 3: me a lot of pain, I'm way more open to
Speaker 3: foot comfort and whatever that looks like than I was before.
Speaker 3: But with Birkenstock specifically, if you're on the fence, maybe
Speaker 3: wait until you're in a very serious relationship before you
Speaker 3: wear them a bunch, or you're married, or you're in
Speaker 3: some sort of committed situation, and that won't play a
Speaker 3: role in somebody determining, well he looks he's just too
Speaker 3: much of a dork. That's my official stance.
Speaker 2: I will say this on a different note, but quasi related,
Speaker 2: while we're talking about foot comfort, I'm willing to submit,
Speaker 2: along with easy path and wireless internet and smartphones among
Speaker 2: the truly great trends and inventions of our generation, this
Speaker 2: whole thing now where people are comfortable wearing sneakers to
Speaker 2: just about any occasion, that to me is in the
Speaker 2: equation right there.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, and there have been nicer sneakers made,
Speaker 3: like the formal sneaker thing.
Speaker 2: Whatever Marty Smith wears all the time. When you see
Speaker 2: him conducting interviews out at the National Championship.
Speaker 3: I interviewed I interviewed Florida's basketball coach Mike White at
Speaker 3: MSGMS Square Garden during the tournament. He was rocking the
Speaker 3: same thing. He's a younger guy, looked great, looked totally good.
Speaker 1: That movement.
Speaker 2: For me, I'm not saying in all occasions I'm for it.
Speaker 2: I will not be doing it at my wedding, right,
Speaker 2: But and there are people who have done it at
Speaker 2: their wedding and it don't begrudge them. If you're able
Speaker 2: to get away with it in comfort and everyone's cool
Speaker 2: with it, then you bu But I'm just saying as
Speaker 2: a whole this trend towards wearing sneakers where we wouldn't
Speaker 2: traditionally wear sneakers. I am very okay with that, very
Speaker 2: okay with that.
Speaker 3: Jeremy wants to know what are your feelings. I'm bringing
Speaker 3: a flask to a wedding? Is it okay if.
Speaker 1: I bring one?
Speaker 3: If I assume they will have a bad selection, Do
Speaker 3: I go ahead and bring a whole bottle? If that's
Speaker 3: the case? Is it? Is it okay if I bring
Speaker 3: a flask? If the reception will be dry? So this
Speaker 3: was maybe the easiest question that we received in you
Speaker 3: you are not much of a drinker, I'm not okay.
Speaker 3: So I feel like I already know what your answer
Speaker 3: is going to be here. I feel if it's a
Speaker 3: dry wedding and it's going to be particularly torturous and
Speaker 3: you'll become a very popular table, I can sort of
Speaker 3: get behind that. But I mean, how much do you
Speaker 3: love drinking. If just standard booze and beer and wine isn't.
Speaker 1: Good enough, well that was going to be my point.
Speaker 3: That's the problem where just like if I went to
Speaker 3: wedding and it was hot outside and they were serving
Speaker 3: you know whatever, there's some barbecue or tacos or whatever
Speaker 3: it is that like would really pair well with a
Speaker 3: cold beer, but they only had like bud light or something.
Speaker 1: I'd have the bud light, but light's fine. You're right.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you're not gonna put beer in
Speaker 2: a flask, are you?
Speaker 3: No, You're not putting beer in a flak? So like, okay,
Speaker 3: they only have like Jack Daniels, and like great, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't even know what nice vot is.
Speaker 3: But if they only have like Jack Daniels or you know,
Speaker 3: like lower end stuff, that's fine. Just make it with
Speaker 3: some ginger ale and get on the dance floor. Come on,
Speaker 3: we don't we don't need the high end stuff constantly,
Speaker 3: do we tie?
Speaker 1: Do you do you own a flask? By the way,
Speaker 1: absolutely not.
Speaker 2: I was gifted a flask for being in someone's wedding.
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of gift ideas you have
Speaker 2: for anyone.
Speaker 1: I don't have groomsmen.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you give gifts to parents sometimes. Maybe
Speaker 2: maybe you're a new father in law with like a
Speaker 2: flask for his day job.
Speaker 1: Who knows, definitely not, but okay.
Speaker 2: I'm sort of uncomfortable taking that with me to places
Speaker 2: I know a lot.
Speaker 1: Maybe like camping, can being something like.
Speaker 2: But my whole thing is that if you've got a flask,
Speaker 2: the reason it exists at all is so you can
Speaker 2: take alcohol to a place where you're not supposed to
Speaker 2: be taking alcohol. Right, And I'm not much a rule
Speaker 2: breaker all the time.
Speaker 1: Dan, you know this about like.
Speaker 3: A dry like torturous religious Thanksgiving or holiday, you might
Speaker 3: have a situation you might have aboard there that seems
Speaker 3: more defensible. I don't know, just drink what's there. All
Speaker 3: I'm saying is drinking.
Speaker 2: If it's an open bar and you take a flask,
Speaker 2: you're kind of just being a dick.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: If it's a dry wedding, then it's kind of a
Speaker 2: different debate. You can do it, but just don't get bombed, right,
Speaker 2: don't make a fool out of yourself, because if it's dry,
Speaker 2: there's probably a very good reason why it's dry. So
Speaker 2: don't be that guy. That would be my only advice.
Speaker 3: Tell you know, when you're watching an overnight like Pack
Speaker 3: twelve after Dark game and you're like, I just got
Speaker 3: to go to sleep. I'm sorry this. I will see
Speaker 3: what happens in the morning. And then you check the
Speaker 3: box score and it turns out Connor Halliday has thrown
Speaker 3: the ball eighty three times. He threw for seven hundred Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know he finished the game fifty of eighty three.
Speaker 3: That's what I feel like. Our pal Matt Morris did
Speaker 3: to our Facebook feed. He was a volume shooter.
Speaker 2: This Matt Morris throwing a lot of pitches at us
Speaker 2: here Dan.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and a lot of good questions I will add,
Speaker 3: but I'll get to a couple of them. Will we
Speaker 3: have another EMO episode? Don't know, maybe, but we will
Speaker 3: one hundred percent definitely welcome Bill Barnwell back for another
Speaker 3: themed non college football episode.
Speaker 1: I gotta say that. I gotta say so.
Speaker 2: I tried my best, and I got some comments about this,
Speaker 2: By the way, I tried my best to go toe
Speaker 2: to toe with you guys.
Speaker 1: When it came to EMO, I know pretty much.
Speaker 2: I don't know nearly as much about the genre as
Speaker 2: you guys did.
Speaker 1: I helped my own I did.
Speaker 2: Okay, you guys were clearly the superstars of that podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. I'll accept that.
Speaker 2: We talked about doing another themed show that all three
Speaker 2: of us know a lot about, and I'm very excited
Speaker 2: about that show.
Speaker 3: So also, Matt wants to know I'm juiced for that one.
Speaker 3: Dan seems to be eating healthier. What is his quote
Speaker 3: secret cheat food? So I normally eat pretty healthy, but
Speaker 3: I generally tend to eat healthier because I work out
Speaker 3: more as the sun comes out in New York and
Speaker 3: I'm running a little bit more and now I'm gotta
Speaker 3: look sleek in a wedding suit coming up here.
Speaker 1: Ty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't need a ton of sugar. So
Speaker 3: I guess if I am quote cheating, it will be
Speaker 3: eating something sweet and the other day at the office. Ty,
Speaker 3: do you like girls Scout cookies?
Speaker 1: Sure? Do you have a favorite line? I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of the thin Mints? Okay, you like the thin Mints? Yeah?
Speaker 3: We have the tagalongs here are just those are for me.
Speaker 3: I am here for tagalongs. I am here on this
Speaker 3: earth for those peanut butter chocolate just beauties.
Speaker 1: Not a huge peanut butter fin. But okay, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I love the tagalongs.
Speaker 3: I ate four or five of them. I looked at
Speaker 3: the box. It was an open container of tag alongs.
Speaker 3: Looked at the box and said, nope, not today, girls
Speaker 3: outs and immediately ate four or five. I immediately just
Speaker 3: went for it. And here's my question to you, ty,
Speaker 3: how long? And we talked about this in the office.
Speaker 3: If thin mints are a genuine weakness for you, yes.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say a weakness. I like them. What is
Speaker 1: Do you have a sweet weakness? A sweetness? Chocolate covered almonds?
Speaker 1: We have them in the office now. Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Can't control myself around chocolate covered almonds. The two things
Speaker 2: that I am utterly unable to control myself around are
Speaker 2: the chocolate covered almonds and the wise food white cheddar popcorn.
Speaker 2: But that's not really sweet.
Speaker 1: No, not a sweet.
Speaker 3: But let's say at your desk at work, there was
Speaker 3: a bowl of just just to the brim tie you
Speaker 3: like dark chocolate or milk chocolate milk, gotta go milk, milk,
Speaker 3: chocolate almonds, just a heaping bowl.
Speaker 1: If you were given.
Speaker 3: One dollar an hour, which is not a lot of money.
Speaker 3: How long could you just stare at those almonds on
Speaker 3: your desk without eating one?
Speaker 1: Wow? I could probably. That's a very weird question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have pretty good willpower. I could hold
Speaker 2: off for a What could you do five dollars worth?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely, I've been I've been doing it for
Speaker 2: a month. I gave up chocolate covered almonds this month.
Speaker 1: But they're not on your desk.
Speaker 2: They're not on my desk now, but there is a
Speaker 2: steady supply of them at the Mysterious day job, and
Speaker 2: I walk by them on the way to my desk
Speaker 2: every day.
Speaker 3: I could get one Crisp Washington out of this deal.
Speaker 3: I could not if an open box of tag alongs
Speaker 3: on my desk.
Speaker 1: That's it's my weakness.
Speaker 2: Tie.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm not doing so well. This is the
Speaker 3: question that is perhaps the most tie question I could
Speaker 3: possibly imagine.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm excited.
Speaker 3: Which current college football quarterback or quarterbacks do you guys
Speaker 3: put at the top of your quote? Most likely to
Speaker 3: end up on the Bachelor end Quotes Big board for
Speaker 3: this year. That comes to us from John Haggard, which
Speaker 3: is everything Tied dreams of in.
Speaker 1: A question when he falls asleep at night. Yes, wow,
Speaker 1: who is it? Ty who?
Speaker 3: So okay, let's establish this what makes for a good
Speaker 3: ex player bachelor. So we've had Jordan Rodgers.
Speaker 2: I've had Jordan Rodgers, Jesse Palmer.
Speaker 3: Jesse Palmer. We've had the Aaron Murray connection. And he
Speaker 3: was an athlete of baseball Josh Murray. Yeah, Josh Murray
Speaker 3: was on was Sean?
Speaker 1: Was that his name? Sean? Yeah? Sean?
Speaker 2: He didn't he played football football at Case State? Yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2: It has to be somebody that maybe is good enough
Speaker 2: to play at the next level, but not in like
Speaker 2: a starting capacity, Jesse Palmer being being the obvious there.
Speaker 2: It has to be somebody who I think has a
Speaker 2: personality that translates well to television because first and foremost
Speaker 2: are trying to make a TV show With the Bachelor,
Speaker 2: it's not about love. And I also think in today's era,
Speaker 2: because they're trying to drive ratings, it needs to be
Speaker 2: someone who has some sort of well publicized girlfriend and
Speaker 2: or crush situation, something someone that people knew about because
Speaker 2: of a previous relationship or.
Speaker 1: Did people know about Jordan Rodgers previous relationships.
Speaker 2: Where I'm going with this is I feel like Trevor
Speaker 2: Knight would have been the correct answer last year. And he,
Speaker 2: for example, is someone who was dating someone from Duck
Speaker 2: dynasty or a daughter of someone from Duck dynasty. I
Speaker 2: feel like that sort of helps to have that in
Speaker 2: the quiver. Sure, so for me, the obvious answer is
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what Ryan said as well represented this.
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield has the personality, he's too small, too unconventional
Speaker 2: to make it in the NFL. And he also you'll remember,
Speaker 2: like two years ago he was in the running for
Speaker 2: our factoi that malely interested Tom Hammond because he had
Speaker 2: a girlfriend who went to Oklahoma State. Sure, so, right
Speaker 2: out of the choot, my my one A is probably
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I did a little bit of research, ty,
Speaker 3: not knowing what makes a good bachelor, and just looking
Speaker 3: at what quarterbacks actually look like, and it seemed the
Speaker 3: look that they go for, it seems like you'd have
Speaker 3: to be below the Mason Dixon line, so Oklahoma would count.
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like a Minnesota quarterback or a Michigan
Speaker 3: State quarterback as dreami as Kirk Cousin's eyes were, Penn
Speaker 3: State quarterback. It just doesn't feel like they're drawing from
Speaker 3: that area. I looked at Ryan.
Speaker 1: Finley at North Carolina Carolina. They said he looks like
Speaker 1: he is Bachelor material. Okay.
Speaker 3: Bryce Ramsey has the name and has the pedigree Georgia,
Speaker 3: but didn't seem to have the bachelor look to me.
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson looked very nice at that heisman.
Speaker 2: Sarahremony, you can make a really good case for Josh
Speaker 2: Rosen too, could make a great case for Josh Rosen.
Speaker 1: The UCLA is very all American.
Speaker 2: Josh Rosen's an interesting case. If he doesn't turn things around,
Speaker 2: and there's no guaranteed though I would think that he would,
Speaker 2: and I'm rooting for him too. But if he doesn't,
Speaker 2: he certainly got the personality.
Speaker 1: At that point.
Speaker 2: He probably wouldn't have a whole lot of longevity in
Speaker 2: the NFL.
Speaker 1: And we know.
Speaker 2: That he's willing to be a little riskue didn't he
Speaker 2: invite a fan back to.
Speaker 1: His dorm, true an Arizona fan to go on to
Speaker 1: hot tubs?
Speaker 2: So he clearly have no issues with going on national
Speaker 2: television in a well publicized situation like that.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw another name at you, Shane Michelle Okay,
Speaker 3: go on Shane Michelle. I don't know that he doesn't know,
Speaker 3: don't know that he has an NFL future at this point.
Speaker 3: Open competition at Texas for the quarterback job. High profile
Speaker 3: at Texas Dad, notable baseball player. Yep, didn't he put
Speaker 3: out videos in the off season like throwing to friends
Speaker 3: that were driving. Oh what was it on the lake?
Speaker 3: Stuff and boats or something like that. So there is
Speaker 3: that sort of very not very public but public persona.
Speaker 3: I think that's a sleeper right there. This comes to
Speaker 3: us from Mike, and I did some research into this
Speaker 3: one as well.
Speaker 1: Tie. Similar note, is Randy Edzel sexy? Wow? Is Randy
Speaker 1: Ways to go with that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So it could be asking is Randy Edzel a sexy?
Speaker 3: Higher at Yukon coming back? Hires Rhet Lashley to run
Speaker 3: the offense. You know, he's the only real Yukon football
Speaker 3: coach recently to have a good amount of success, got
Speaker 3: them to the Fiesta well before taking his dream job.
Speaker 3: But I went at it from a more analytical approach.
Speaker 3: I don't know, really what makes a fifty eight year
Speaker 3: old man sexy?
Speaker 1: I don't, but I did some research. Tie.
Speaker 3: These are the famous fifty eight year olds we have
Speaker 3: before us. According to one website, that was the first
Speaker 3: one I googled.
Speaker 1: Or we're not playing hot or not now? Or what
Speaker 1: are we? How are we doing this here?
Speaker 3: Sexier than Randy Edsel? Do you want to bring up
Speaker 3: a picture of Randy Edzel? I know what Randy Etzel
Speaker 3: looks like, but I'll pull him. Know what he looks like,
Speaker 3: pull it up just so you have the visual reference. Okay, Rand,
Speaker 3: go ahead, I got him, all right. Vigo Mortensen sexier
Speaker 3: than Randy Edzel. Not sexier, We'll go Vigo on that one. Okay,
Speaker 3: you have to go. He was he was in Lord
Speaker 3: of the Rings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, let's see where did my keep there?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Okay, next up? Sexier than Randy Edzel. Not sexier than
Speaker 3: Randy Etzel, Neil de grass Tyson, No, No, Randy Acknowledge
Speaker 3: is sexy?
Speaker 1: Tie I do. I'm a big NDT fan, But now
Speaker 1: I gotta go Randy.
Speaker 3: The Prices Rights, Drew Carrey, Randy Edzel, a bit of
Speaker 3: a womanizer. Yeah, Randy Edzel over Drew carry Mark Cuban,
Speaker 3: Randy Edzel, Gary Oldman, Commissioner Gordon.
Speaker 1: From the Batman series. Randy Edzel, Randy Edseell, Okay, Kevin Bacon,
Speaker 1: mister footloose.
Speaker 2: Probably Kevin Bacon probably, Yeah, Kevin Bacon is way better
Speaker 2: looking at Randio. Okay, this is a very weird conversation,
Speaker 2: but I like it. Tim Burton, Randy Etzel, that's very clear. Yes,
Speaker 2: Alec Baldwin current, Alec Baldwin, got to go. I'm talking still,
Speaker 2: Alec Baldwin. Yeah, Alec Baldwin, all right.
Speaker 3: And these are the deceased Prince, Michael Jackson, and Billy
Speaker 3: Mays obviously all are sexier than Randy Edseell.
Speaker 1: All right. Here is the only other big name.
Speaker 3: College football coach that is fifty eight years old, which
Speaker 3: is strange. You would think that they'll be more given
Speaker 3: the like popular in sixty, right, But the only one
Speaker 3: I could find in my pretty extensive search through Lovey
Speaker 3: Smith is fifty eight years old.
Speaker 1: Wow, who is the sexier man in your eyes? Lovey Smith?
Speaker 1: Randy ets I think I go, love you Smith.
Speaker 3: I think that's right. Yeah, I think that's right. But
Speaker 3: I'm glad we got to the bottom of this and this.
Speaker 3: Never accuse us of not taking your questions very seriously.
Speaker 3: Mike Reardan very seriously. All right, Next we have uh,
Speaker 3: this is a quick one. Sushi is sashimi?
Speaker 1: Ti? Do you have a preference. I'm gonna go sushi
Speaker 1: because I've never had sushimi.
Speaker 3: Sashimi. Do you know what sashimi is? No idea, sashimi
Speaker 3: is sushi or it's sushi fish without the rice. So
Speaker 3: you're just having a piece of fish, a piece of
Speaker 3: raw fish, no dip, a little bit of in soy sauce,
Speaker 3: and some with sabi, but no rice. No, No, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go sushi myself because I think great sushi rice
Speaker 3: really makes the meal.
Speaker 1: Can we get to the.
Speaker 2: Question about about the animals like the real life train.
Speaker 3: This comes to us from Chris. If all the animal
Speaker 3: named teams were their nicknames trained to play football, who
Speaker 3: would be the national champion?
Speaker 2: This is my This is one of my top ten
Speaker 2: favorite questions of all time.
Speaker 1: Eleven on eleven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who which mascot or not specific mask, but which
Speaker 3: nickname do you think has the best chance at winning
Speaker 3: the national championship? So I think we're gonna call it
Speaker 3: on land because football's played on land.
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say that's where we have to
Speaker 2: figure out what we're gonna do because I have to
Speaker 2: believe like the Southern miss Golden Eagles would have a
Speaker 2: distinct air raid offense that the Penn State Nitney Lions
Speaker 2: could not contend with. Right right, His thing here does
Speaker 2: not specify land creatures, So I'm going to specify ground
Speaker 2: creatures on land. That's what That's the line I'm going
Speaker 2: to draw.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: Because of their ability to both stand and run on
Speaker 3: all fours and hold a football, I think I'm going
Speaker 3: with cal UCLA bruin. I think is a baby bear.
Speaker 3: A bruins a baby bear, which is a more difficult task.
Speaker 3: They're more athletic, I mean they at a younger.
Speaker 1: Age, they'd be undersized. Dan, do we have human mascots?
Speaker 2: If you're talking about like a cougar or a puma
Speaker 2: in the wildcat category, then I think you've got a
Speaker 2: potential there. I'm inclined to say that Nitney Lions also
Speaker 2: kind of fall into that same category. Nitney Lions a cougar, sure,
Speaker 2: so I have seen what those creatures can do. And
Speaker 2: a puma can do something like jump twenty feet straight
Speaker 2: up in the air, right that level of agility and
Speaker 2: speed and really just I think intelligence is something that
Speaker 2: translates to the football field.
Speaker 3: I'm leaning bears still just because of I think they're
Speaker 3: more athletic than a lot of the other four legged
Speaker 3: armed you know, running and moving on all fours animals.
Speaker 3: I think they offer more versatility, more size, ferocity, but
Speaker 3: still agility. But if we're talking about, you know, running,
Speaker 3: some sort of just like single wing, really basic and
Speaker 3: we sort of accept the fact that a ball can
Speaker 3: be attached to this animal in some way. I think
Speaker 3: the most unstoppable force would be eleven buffaloes.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: That to me is buffaloes can run it up. They
Speaker 3: can stampede it up to thirty five miles an hour.
Speaker 3: So we're talking faster than football players at their top speed. Right,
Speaker 3: we're talking about they're relatively light on their feet, sort
Speaker 3: of thinner legs, but still a ton of mass, and
Speaker 3: they lead with their head, which is problematic referee wise.
Speaker 3: But I'm going I'm staying in the Pac twelve and
Speaker 3: I'm either're going Bears or buffalo.
Speaker 2: Do they call targeting in a game like that? I
Speaker 2: feel like they don't. I feel like they'd all be
Speaker 2: with their head. That's true, But you bring up a
Speaker 2: very interesting point with Buffaloes, it'd be like a team
Speaker 2: of Craig Hayward out there.
Speaker 3: You're running the wedge, I mean you're running the return
Speaker 3: wedge offense. And we've seen Ralphie run. Ralphie can run
Speaker 3: once he gets ahead of Steam.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: The question is get ahead of steam knowing that you've
Speaker 2: got something like a puma who could just jump over
Speaker 2: jump over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the agility factor is what scares me.
Speaker 2: Huh, this is interesting. Here's another one that I that
Speaker 2: I enjoyed, kind of along the same lines. This is
Speaker 2: from Dan. Which conference has your favorite nicknames? He votes
Speaker 2: for the Big Ten, he says, because they have twelve
Speaker 2: unique names like boiler Makers and Nitney Lyons, really only
Speaker 2: two generic ones. He says, the SEC is the worst,
Speaker 2: with three tigers, two bulldogs in a wildcat.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I put an inordinate amount of thought into this, Dan, Okay,
Speaker 2: I have settled on Conference USA. Okay, I was, I
Speaker 2: mean part of me was AAC. But can continue. Let
Speaker 2: me read off the names of the Mascotskay, in Conference USA,
Speaker 2: I challenge you to come up with a better slate
Speaker 2: of names.
Speaker 1: I'm ready.
Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers, the Panthers, Owls, Bulldogs, Thundering Herd,
Speaker 2: Blue Raiders, mean Green Monarchs, Owls, owl Golden Eagles, Miners,
Speaker 2: road Runners in Hilltoppers.
Speaker 3: It's very good. That is as a strong list. I mean,
Speaker 3: he may have been referencing Power five conferences, but I
Speaker 3: don't care.
Speaker 1: No Mountain West is decent. PAC twelve is fine. Nothing.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Cardinal is kind of cool.
Speaker 3: Buffalo's is obviously relatively unique. AAC, We've got owls, Bowls, Knights,
Speaker 3: bear Cats, We've got East Carolina is the Pirates, which
Speaker 3: I think that's pretty dope. The Huskies is pretty normal.
Speaker 3: The Midshipman, like the midshipman. Yeah, like the midship not
Speaker 3: just a hurricane tie a golden hurricane in Tulsa, not
Speaker 3: just a wave, but a green wave with that helmet,
Speaker 3: that sort of throwback helmet. Got the Mustangs, not just
Speaker 3: Broncos or anything like that. Mustangs. You've got your Cougars
Speaker 3: and you've got your Tigers. I think that spans enough.
Speaker 3: I like the weather factor. I'm going with the AAC.
Speaker 2: Another one here he mentioned a big ten and he's
Speaker 2: not wrong. But one other one I'll throw in here.
Speaker 2: Acc not bad, m Okay. He got some common ones Eagles, Tigers, sure,
Speaker 2: but Blue Devils, Seminoles, yellow Jackets, tar Heels, the Orange Cavaliers, Hokies,
Speaker 2: and to round it out, the Demon Deacons.
Speaker 1: Not bad, not bad.
Speaker 3: We got time for one or two more, one or
Speaker 3: two more. These will be relatively quick. I'm going to
Speaker 3: save a couple of these for when we have Doctor
Speaker 3: Jane on because got very personal and I like that.
Speaker 3: Walker wants to know he has to plan a bachelor
Speaker 3: party for the late summer. Looking for a good spot
Speaker 3: in the continental the United States, Vegas not an actual
Speaker 3: option because it's going to be very hot in late summer,
Speaker 3: which also sort of takes away Austin, Nashville, Charleston, some
Speaker 3: popular spots. New Orleans is gonna be pretty gross late summer.
Speaker 3: But New Orleans is great. Can you guys give me
Speaker 3: a recommendation. Cogo's interesting to me, Dan, Chicago's you can get.
Speaker 3: I mean, it gets humid, but you summer can also
Speaker 3: it's a great summer city.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you can go to a Cubs game, you go
Speaker 3: to Wrigley, easy to get to. I don't know where
Speaker 3: Walker is from, so, but Chicago's pretty central to everybody. Yeah,
Speaker 3: go to Chicago for one night and you know, have
Speaker 3: a great meal, you know, walk around, you know, maybe
Speaker 3: do something on the lake. I would then go to
Speaker 3: either Michigan or Wisconsin and try to get a lake
Speaker 3: house there. The summers are pretty mild up there. You
Speaker 3: can have a great you can grill, you could just
Speaker 3: do your own thing. You can be secluded, rent a lakehouse.
Speaker 3: Sort of upper Midwest Michigan, Wisconsin totally beautiful over the summers,
Speaker 3: and I would say more affordable, especially if you have
Speaker 3: a bigger group to do the beach house thing or
Speaker 3: the lakehouse thing. Go to the supermarket and get a
Speaker 3: bunch of burgers and dogs and beer, and you know,
Speaker 3: maybe we can get a flask from our friends. Go
Speaker 3: you get a flask from Jerrem. But I would do
Speaker 3: It's beautiful up there during the summer. That's what I
Speaker 3: would do. I would do the sort of chill lake
Speaker 3: house thing every down.
Speaker 2: Again, I have a decent idea doesn't happen often. But
Speaker 2: where are we going? Final question here?
Speaker 3: Final question? This is going to say a lot about
Speaker 3: you as a human. Okay, man, it's about somebody living
Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Taylor has a cold.
Speaker 1: Oh, he's sick in bed? What's your best cold remedy?
Speaker 2: I am a big fan of the old adage. Feet
Speaker 2: a cold, starve a fever, they starve a flu.
Speaker 1: I've heard star of a.
Speaker 2: Fever, but I suppose you could starve the flu as well.
Speaker 2: When I have a cold, if it is just chills,
Speaker 2: I do my best.
Speaker 1: Stuff my face.
Speaker 2: I eat as much as I can without making myself uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Does it need to be what do you eat? A
Speaker 2: giant cheese steak, can just be. Soup, can be comfort, food,
Speaker 2: can be almost anything. When you got a cold, I
Speaker 2: think every everything's fair game.
Speaker 3: Sleep your ass off, Sleep like it's your job. Sleep
Speaker 3: like crazy. Just keep rebooting your body. Drink a ton
Speaker 3: of water. I generally, even though I love tea, I
Speaker 3: will avoid tea when I have a cold because tea
Speaker 3: actually lowers your body temperature. Yeah so that's not even
Speaker 3: though it's warm going down at that moment, it lowers
Speaker 3: your body temperature. Which is why they say when you
Speaker 3: have a fever, to drink tea because it actually lowers it.
Speaker 3: Eat a ton of Relatively, you have a turkey sandwich
Speaker 3: on wheat bread. You know something that's not going to
Speaker 3: upset your stomach all that much. Drink just a crap
Speaker 3: ton of water. I will drink like hot water with
Speaker 3: honey if I have a cold, just because it'll warm
Speaker 3: me up.
Speaker 2: Follow up question sleep like it's your job. Final question
Speaker 2: follow up HM to what end do you believe in
Speaker 2: something like emergency?
Speaker 3: I'll have it occasionally if I start to feel myself
Speaker 3: getting sick, But I don't believe in it in any
Speaker 3: sort of significant way. Just because the vitamin C is
Speaker 3: good for you. Thing was sort of a hoax from
Speaker 3: like the seventies by like some just random doctor. Vitamin
Speaker 3: C is fine for you, but it's not going to
Speaker 3: cure your sickness. So you know, putting vitamins into your
Speaker 3: body is fine generally, when you have them in unnatural
Speaker 3: forms like airborne or emergency, you're just going to pee
Speaker 3: it out pretty quickly. I can too agree with you.
Speaker 3: I don't think it does much. Eat healthy, and you're
Speaker 3: gonna get all the vitamins you need.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: Sage life advice here from Dan Rubinstein, maybe a little
Speaker 2: from me too.
Speaker 3: We got a bunch of We got a bunch of
Speaker 3: questions involving like relationships and personal matters. And wedding stuff.
Speaker 3: I'm going to do my best to book the always
Speaker 3: difficult to book Doctor Jane for a return appearance this spring,
Speaker 3: so we will get more questions. You have any questions
Speaker 3: about life, relationships, inner working, politics kind of stuff. I know, Ti,
Speaker 3: you've been dying to do a bathroom medic hit show, So.
Speaker 1: This is not made up, correct. I could probably go
Speaker 1: for about an hour on Bathroom Medica.
Speaker 3: But no, we're going to have a life talk with
Speaker 3: doctor Jane. Maybe we'll bring Ryan in as well at
Speaker 3: some point, so we'll get to some of those questions.
Speaker 3: Then I am pretty much all talked out now, Ty.
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Speaker 2: off season and getting you all geared up for the
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen season, like what five six months from now?
Speaker 1: It's a while from now, ty, Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2: On that note, Dan, I know you are headed for
Speaker 2: parts unknown here shortly after the show, so safe travels.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Well, I talk to you next week. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'll be here. I'll be ready, all right.
Speaker 2: Very good for that guy over there, my good friend
Speaker 2: Dan rubenst for myself, Tie Hildebrand, thanks again for joining
Speaker 2: us on the show.
Speaker 1: We will catch you next Week's say solid peace.