WEBVTT - Lakers/Bucks Postgame Spaces

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<v Speaker 1>M all right, welcome to the State of the Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>show on dash Bready. I think you guys so much

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<v Speaker 1>to come and hang out. I am very excited tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most excited I've been about this team

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<v Speaker 1>all season. I know that seems crazy coming off of

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<v Speaker 1>a loss, um, but I think there was so much

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<v Speaker 1>good out there tonight that I think, in general, um uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that we can probably view this as an example of

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<v Speaker 1>something that should give us a bunch of optimism. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get too far into it right away,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just wanted to kind of set that tone

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<v Speaker 1>from the start. Um. I felt like this was a

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<v Speaker 1>game that the Lakers played on the road against the

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<v Speaker 1>defending champs in Milwaukee. I just I was super rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the team. And we're gonna get into why. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because obviously, with the scoreboard, may seem like

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't really have much of a chance to win,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought, I thought that they missed a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of really good shots for really good shooters tonight, which

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<v Speaker 1>if even just a few of those go the other way,

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<v Speaker 1>this could be an entirely different outcome. So and that's

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<v Speaker 1>just one small part of it. But I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was really really excited. Th h tu looks freaking incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a bunch of good that we're gonna get into tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>which excites me because Roger and I have just had

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<v Speaker 1>to sit here and bitch and moan basically the NonStop

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<v Speaker 1>for the last for the last month. So Roger, whore's

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<v Speaker 1>your head at right now? Are you as optimistic as

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<v Speaker 1>I am? Yeah? This was a good game. Like we've

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<v Speaker 1>been begging the team not just get blown out right

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<v Speaker 1>and again tonight a game against the defending champs. They've

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<v Speaker 1>been struggling, but there's still they still have. Be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>they got Chris Milton back tonight. I'd expect the Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>to win, but they have definitely had a chance, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of good process stuff, like you

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<v Speaker 1>said tonight, just a lot of marginal decisions. I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>impact of the game, some of the lineup decisions that

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<v Speaker 1>we can kind of get into that. But Lebron's coming

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<v Speaker 1>back Friday at least, that's that's the hopes And that

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of the pretense going into this game. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just kind of just want to look at some

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<v Speaker 1>good process stuff, and I thought we saw that tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Janice had a crazy first half, but he also had

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<v Speaker 1>like three threes a couple of turnaround jumpers go in.

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<v Speaker 1>So like I thought some of the physicality we didn't match,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, just a lot of good stuff, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>And definitely I think Taylor Horton Tucker is leading that

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<v Speaker 1>train of positivity because man, he looks absolutely incredible. He

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<v Speaker 1>looks he looks ready to start on this team, and

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<v Speaker 1>that might have some issues with spacing and stuff, but

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<v Speaker 1>if his jump shots real, man, he he to me

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<v Speaker 1>was the lead again of the story tonight. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should start with TNC as well. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we have kind of been on a little roller coaster

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth with this kid about whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>it's been worth trading him for something to buy into

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, a title window that that we that

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<v Speaker 1>is limited because of the age of Lebron right. And

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<v Speaker 1>my main concern was, like, hand, this kid contribute at

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<v Speaker 1>the level you need him to contribute to be worth it,

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<v Speaker 1>at least enough so that you don't feel like you're

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<v Speaker 1>one ft in and one ft out. And what it

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<v Speaker 1>had What has ended up happening here is he's taking

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<v Speaker 1>a leap here on both ends of the floor, like

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<v Speaker 1>I I called him in the last podcast, Mini Kauai,

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<v Speaker 1>And there was this thing that used to happen with

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<v Speaker 1>Kawhi Leonard, especially when he was younger, where if you

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<v Speaker 1>dribbled in front of him, it was just a disaster

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<v Speaker 1>every time because he was just going to take the

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<v Speaker 1>ball away from you. He had these ridiculous arms. He

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<v Speaker 1>was really good at reaching without fouling, and we saw

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that tonight. He was on my notes.

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<v Speaker 1>You may you remember, you may remember the big play

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the game where he ripped Drew

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<v Speaker 1>Holiday and year half board, But throughout the entire first

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<v Speaker 1>half of the game, he was just getting his hands

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<v Speaker 1>on balls all over the court, off ball, in passing lanes,

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<v Speaker 1>on ball at the point of attack, guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to fight over the top of the screen and

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<v Speaker 1>roll he's coming over from behind. He's just turned into

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<v Speaker 1>an incredibly disruptive defender, which was something that we saw happening.

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<v Speaker 1>But we worried about whether or not he'd be able

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<v Speaker 1>to bring enough offensively to be playable in the best

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<v Speaker 1>Laker lineups, you know, and whether or not they'd be

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<v Speaker 1>able to rely on him in a playoffs setting, and

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<v Speaker 1>he seems to be significantly ahead of where he was

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<v Speaker 1>offensively last year. I know he had a career high

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<v Speaker 1>last game. He had twenty plus again tonight. The dude,

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<v Speaker 1>if he gets his first step on you, there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>anybody can do to stop him from getting all the

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<v Speaker 1>way to the rim because of how long his arms

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<v Speaker 1>are and how good he is with that little scoop

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<v Speaker 1>shot on both sides of the rim, and he's shooting

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<v Speaker 1>well enough from the perimeter right now that he's at

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<v Speaker 1>least every bit as much of a threat as a

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<v Speaker 1>bays Moore, you know, or in Avery Bradley. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>you can very much see that that th HD is

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<v Speaker 1>trending in the direction of being a bona fide pillar

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<v Speaker 1>of this team, and that absolutely, without a shadow of

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<v Speaker 1>a doubt, raises their sailing. And whatever you want to

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<v Speaker 1>say about Russ in the trade, and whatever you want

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<v Speaker 1>to say about what this team could have about the

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<v Speaker 1>process that this team has gone through in the way

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<v Speaker 1>that it's taken shape over the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 1>the reality of the situation is, is th HT making

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<v Speaker 1>a leap like this makes all of that not matter,

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<v Speaker 1>because now it's lebron in a D and th h

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<v Speaker 1>T as this huge pillar and even if things don't

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<v Speaker 1>pan out with Russ, which we'll talk about him later,

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually think he's starting to kind of find

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<v Speaker 1>his groove a little bit, and he's starting to also

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<v Speaker 1>look great physically. But the th h T rise completely

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<v Speaker 1>changes the ceiling of this team and I think everyone

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<v Speaker 1>should be very excited. Yeah. Man, his decision making is

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<v Speaker 1>at a way different level than it was even last season.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's driving to the rim, he's doing all these

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<v Speaker 1>like he drives, gets in the air and then kicks

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<v Speaker 1>it out and our shooters weren't really making shots tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>but just his shock curation is so needed. There are

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<v Speaker 1>plays where like Russ does a kick ahead to th

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<v Speaker 1>HT and he has just a one man it's not

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<v Speaker 1>even advantage, it's like a two on two. He gets

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<v Speaker 1>right to the basket and he gets fouled or gets

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<v Speaker 1>a lay up. I thought there were a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>place tonight where he got ACKed and just didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>the call. But he's just really finding of a rhythm.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think just his third game back, you could

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<v Speaker 1>already see him start to get even more and more comfortable. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>And once he starts drawing those foul calls, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna even take the next step. But you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's making that leap right in front of us, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just think just having him, I wish we could

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<v Speaker 1>have just staggered, you know, him and Russ, Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's showing us that he's like our second best

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<v Speaker 1>ball handler right now. And again we're getting Lebron back,

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<v Speaker 1>so obviously that would change. But just without Lebron tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have just loved to see him kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get the ball with him. But I wrote down in

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<v Speaker 1>my notes here there was a play where he had

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<v Speaker 1>Drew Holiday on him, which I think both of us

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<v Speaker 1>think is one of the best card defenders in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>And like you said, he got one step on Drew

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<v Speaker 1>Holiday and Drew had to kind of foul him as

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<v Speaker 1>he got to the basket because he couldn't do anything

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<v Speaker 1>his He's definitely got more skinny, but he's still super strong,

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<v Speaker 1>so like and you combine that with his ball handling

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just a really tough cover. And you're right, defensively,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was probably our best guy on Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Middleton tonight, like just chasing him over screens giving back

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on his length, like you could see that. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought Chris Milton got off a little bit when he

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<v Speaker 1>was guarded by like Rondo and you had DeAndre Jordans

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<v Speaker 1>kind of coming up on a drop coverage. But I

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<v Speaker 1>thought t HD on Chris Milton was fantastic. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he competed against the honest honest obviously has the strength advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was a play I think where THHD kind

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<v Speaker 1>of almost drew a drum ball. They didn't really call it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got the ball back and dunked. But you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's definitely taking another step and it changes everything for

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<v Speaker 1>this season, to be honest, Like th HD taking a

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<v Speaker 1>leap is and he was kind of paid in that way,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was kind of hard to predict for a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty year old returning one I think next week. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, him taking a leap changes everything for this team.

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<v Speaker 1>You're adding a I think he can average. I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>he can average fifteen a game. Maybe I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>shorten him a little bit. You add like a seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>point in game score who can create with a rock

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<v Speaker 1>in his hands, Like that's such a big boost to

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<v Speaker 1>a team that lacks that on so many levels outside

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<v Speaker 1>of Russ and Lebron, So it's it's used to see

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<v Speaker 1>him really play well. And I think he's not just

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<v Speaker 1>putting up points. I think it's impacting winning as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I thought he was a big part of why

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<v Speaker 1>the game was close to name. Yeah, agree, Like it

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<v Speaker 1>changes everything about the team. It changes their ceiling, it

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<v Speaker 1>changes their timeline. Th HT taking a leap like this

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<v Speaker 1>this early in his career, you know, it makes it

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<v Speaker 1>so that Lebron can age gracefully. It makes it so

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't find yourself in this awkward situation where

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching some ancient old Lebron and Anthony Davis looking

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<v Speaker 1>like he's in over his skis because there's not enough

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<v Speaker 1>talent on the team. And and then here comes the

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<v Speaker 1>debates about whether or not he wants out to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Chicago. No, like if th H, his skill set

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<v Speaker 1>obviously compliments Anthony Davis in a lot of ways. Two

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<v Speaker 1>way guard, a guy who could be a primary ball

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<v Speaker 1>handler can get guys into position like that. It's I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see. And again we're two we're two games in,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't want to get too over the top here,

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<v Speaker 1>but This is absolutely something to get excited about. And

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to that, even within the context of Lebron returning,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's been so much offense run through Monks,

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<v Speaker 1>so much offense run through Rondo, so much offense run

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<v Speaker 1>through this theoretical position there. You know, even Kendrick Nunn

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<v Speaker 1>is someone that's talked about is being usable in that

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<v Speaker 1>in that type of situation, HD's gonna slot right into

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<v Speaker 1>that position, that second side creator. He's probably gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>on the floor with Russ or with Lebron at all times.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you if you put him on that second

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<v Speaker 1>side and have him create on you know, when Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>comes down the floor runs in action for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't work, the ball gets swung around. Then th

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<v Speaker 1>h D is an awesome option to run that second

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<v Speaker 1>action and to take some of that you know, workload

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<v Speaker 1>off of the off of the Lebron A D pairing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just, you know, again, I don't want to get tooated,

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<v Speaker 1>but like this is, this is far far beyond what

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<v Speaker 1>I expected to see from him at this point in

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<v Speaker 1>the season, and so I absolutely reason to be excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I want to move on to the to the

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<v Speaker 1>shot quality that the Lakers got in this game, because

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<v Speaker 1>what's so amazing about a core built around th Ht, Lebron,

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<v Speaker 1>Russ and Anthony Davis is, ironically, Anthony Davis is the

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<v Speaker 1>more perimeter oriented player in that group. All those other

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<v Speaker 1>three are head down, get to the rim guys and

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<v Speaker 1>constantly collapse the defense guys. And even without Lebron tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers did an amazing job generating high quality three

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<v Speaker 1>point looks. Now in the past, when you're watching you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're watching the two thousand twenty Lakers or the

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand twenty one Lakers and they shoot in from three,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they were. I can't remember exactly what they

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<v Speaker 1>were tonight, but it was something like from three in

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<v Speaker 1>the past. When you see that, you go, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is just what you get when it's way when it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Wes Matthews taking the threes, and it's Region

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<v Speaker 1>Rondo taking the threes, and it's Avery Bradley taking the threes,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's Danny Green and it's k CP. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>those guys had a certain tendons to not shoot well,

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<v Speaker 1>but tonight those were great looks for great shooters. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think, uh, the uh, Mellows two for eight,

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<v Speaker 1>was one for seven, Ellington was one for seven, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, they took some some deeper threes, some

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<v Speaker 1>late clock threes that weren't quite as good as some

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<v Speaker 1>of the others, but there were a lot of really

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<v Speaker 1>high quality misses in there. And so if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the process, like we always talked about process and results,

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<v Speaker 1>like we lose a game, you know, to Minnesota, we

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<v Speaker 1>lose a game to Portland's, and you'd be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're supposed to win, but our process stucked. We weren't

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<v Speaker 1>getting good stuff. We weren't We weren't running inside out basketball,

0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.720
<v Speaker 1>putting pressure on the rim, generating quality shots, playing defense

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<v Speaker 1>like crazy. Tonight, they competed against the team that is

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<v Speaker 1>extremely talented on both ends of the floor. They generated

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<v Speaker 1>high quality shots and they just didn't go in. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>on the roads, you're gonna get some bad calls. There were.

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<v Speaker 1>There were two, in my opinion at three, absolutely atrocious calls.

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<v Speaker 1>Janice off Arm and the Tommy Davis. That's an atrocious call.

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<v Speaker 1>That hook shot that he shot over th HD. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not a foul. That Chris Middleton play where t HD jump,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a fount that that kind of stuff happens

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<v Speaker 1>on the roads. If you're sitting in the locker room tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>you can look back at this and say, we had

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<v Speaker 1>good process. The result wasn't what we wanted, but we

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<v Speaker 1>went into the defending Chaps house without our best player

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<v Speaker 1>and we played really good basketball and we lost the

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<v Speaker 1>game we could have won, and we did all the

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<v Speaker 1>right stuff, and so I think there's really good reasons

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<v Speaker 1>to be optimistic coming out of that. Yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the threes tonight. Uh, not to just pour

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<v Speaker 1>more fire on the th h D hype train, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was three for six from three tonight as well.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of those spot up opportunities and if he

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<v Speaker 1>can hit those, man like, we're talking about a totally

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<v Speaker 1>different player. But you're right, they shot twelve or forty

0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.800
<v Speaker 1>three from three. Wayne Ellington m League monk going to

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<v Speaker 1>for fourteen really hurts you. Adding Carmelos two for eight

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of threes that would have just shifted the tide

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<v Speaker 1>of the game there. So, yeah, a lot of good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I still think our offense is still very ugly. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of you know, a D post ups, and we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about eighties jumper getting better and it looks the

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<v Speaker 1>best it did I thought tonight as well. It just

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<v Speaker 1>looks super smooth, looks like that bubble a d in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of mid range rhythm. Uh, that pick and pop

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<v Speaker 1>jumper looks really clean. His balance is there. Hopefully that

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<v Speaker 1>continues when Lebron gets back. But we had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of open shots that didn't go in. I thought we

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<v Speaker 1>competed pretty hard the whole night. Say for like the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the end of the second quarter. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about all the fouls that went against us. Um Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Davis didn't take a free throw tonight, which is fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>to think about it. Um. A lot of that is

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<v Speaker 1>him not going to the rim either. I would liked

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<v Speaker 1>him to be a little bit more aggressive, just the

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<v Speaker 1>way that they were defending. But we did create some

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<v Speaker 1>good shots, man, and I really wanted us to start. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Avery Bradley I think played like the first three minutes

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<v Speaker 1>of the set of the third quarter, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't come into the game again. We just stuck with

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<v Speaker 1>Monk and Ellington, and I really wished they started with that.

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<v Speaker 1>And hopefully again when Lebron comes back, you changed the

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<v Speaker 1>whole kind of floor balance. But you're right, just a

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<v Speaker 1>really good game, good process game, and uh, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we can kind of move into Russell web Brooke because

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Russ again tonight just looked he had I

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<v Speaker 1>think three turnovers right away in the first quarter, and

0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.200
<v Speaker 1>he finished with three turnovers tonight. Just a good floor game,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen points, fifteen assists, put his head down, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>go into the basket. I think I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>He's starting to get comfortable. His athleticism looked the best tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he had one play where he drove and just

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<v Speaker 1>burst with control up and under layup, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen stuff like that. He's finishing getting a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit better. The decision making isn't going to be great

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<v Speaker 1>every night, but I just thought he's getting more and

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<v Speaker 1>more comfortable and just having another ball handler and Thhd

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<v Speaker 1>out there, you could see how it just opens things

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<v Speaker 1>up for him. He doesn't have to be the one

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<v Speaker 1>that makes every decision. Does have another guy that swing

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<v Speaker 1>to what do you see it from Russ tonight? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he's trending upward at least is what it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like. And again getting Lebron back, hopefully it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stays this way, But what do you see from

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<v Speaker 1>rest to name so he is There's been stories that

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<v Speaker 1>have been told about Russ from every previous fan base

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<v Speaker 1>that he's encountered that he tends to kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>get his legs underneath them as the season progresses. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>he's never going to be the same guy that he

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<v Speaker 1>was in his prime in Oklahoma City. Whatever that dream is,

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<v Speaker 1>Laker fans need to get that out of their head.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he is starting to look a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>athletic than he did at the beginning of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>which is enough when you factor in what they need

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<v Speaker 1>from this position, which is something I've talked about throughout

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<v Speaker 1>this entire season. You know, right now, Russ is being

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<v Speaker 1>a primary ball handler, the like the number one guy

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<v Speaker 1>on the team in terms of decision making and and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and is going to draw the best perimeter defender

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<v Speaker 1>every single night. That's what he's That's what he's dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with right now. But that's only going to get easier

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<v Speaker 1>for him when Lebron comes back. He's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>attacking lesser perimeter defenders. He's going to be attacking in lineups,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, against bench groups because primarily with the starters,

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<v Speaker 1>it will be Lebron making, you know, the majority of

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<v Speaker 1>the decisions. In the closing groups, it will be Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>making the majority of the decisions. He will be focused

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<v Speaker 1>the same rim pressure that we're seeing, because what we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing from Russ makes sense on paper. It's just they're

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding him with a ton of shooting and Anthony Davis

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<v Speaker 1>or Dwight Howard. I guess Dwight got hurt or something

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<v Speaker 1>because they went with DeAndre Jordan in the second half.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what ended up coming out about that,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're basically putting him with one big and three shooters,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're saying, put your head down, get to the

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<v Speaker 1>damn rim, and if you run into trouble, just throw

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<v Speaker 1>the ball out. And even if you throw it to

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong guy, we can swing it around and find

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<v Speaker 1>a shooter. That all that that makes basketball sense. That

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<v Speaker 1>is something that fits with this group. That is something

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<v Speaker 1>that this team actually needs to help carry it in

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<v Speaker 1>the non Lebron minutes. And so for it to look,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like this, in the role where he's the

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<v Speaker 1>number one. In my opinion, it's only need to get

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<v Speaker 1>better when he's the number two, and the main reason

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<v Speaker 1>why is because he still is taking some absolutely bone

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<v Speaker 1>headed jump shots off the dribble. There was one today

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<v Speaker 1>where he was it was almost like he was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to end up on House of Highlights. He was like

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<v Speaker 1>the ball was like rolling around in front of him

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<v Speaker 1>and he was kind of like tapping down at it,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get the dribble to come back alive, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he just said screw it. He picked it up

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<v Speaker 1>and shot a turnaround fade away. That shot is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen when Lebron is back in the lineup.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not going to happen, or shouldn't at least,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know what that remains to be seen,

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<v Speaker 1>but the point being like, there's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>more like think of it, like on this steak, and

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<v Speaker 1>when Lebron comes back, Russ can finally trim a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of that off, and it should be a little bit more,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it should be a little bit more catered

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<v Speaker 1>to what this team actually needs from that position. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually really like the fit of having this like secondary

0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Baal like rim pressure type of guard. It worked. It

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<v Speaker 1>really made sense with Dennis Shugar, you know, in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ways. I think Dennis was better defensively than Russ,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully Russ kind of comes around on that end

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<v Speaker 1>of the floor. He is trending in the right direction,

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<v Speaker 1>making incremental improvements on that end. But I I there

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<v Speaker 1>is a universe where this fit can work. It just

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<v Speaker 1>requires taking primary decision making responsibilities out of his hands.

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<v Speaker 1>And the key moments of the game at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're setting the tone, at the end, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>closing the deal, those are the times when the ball

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<v Speaker 1>will be out of his hands. So this could, in

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<v Speaker 1>theory make a lot of sense. It's not entirely unprecedented

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<v Speaker 1>to have your secondary creator be kind of a bowl

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<v Speaker 1>in the china shop. It's no different than Jordan Clarkson

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<v Speaker 1>with the Utah Jazz, or even like a Jordan Pool

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<v Speaker 1>with the Golden State Warriors. A guy that's like, you're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, I don't care if you make some mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>You're attacking lesser defenders, You're doing it in smaller portions

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<v Speaker 1>of the game. That that makes sense, That role makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense for us. It just right now he's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>miscast as a lead man. So but even in that

0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:48.200
<v Speaker 1>miscastle lead man role. He was pretty good tonight, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm starting to see the light at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the tunnel with Russ. Yeah, And I thought th

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<v Speaker 1>HD kind of did a pretty good job ton I

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<v Speaker 1>have playing that Lebron role next to him right THHD

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<v Speaker 1>points twelve rebounds tonight, But like it just it just

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like Russ is starting to get comfortable with another

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<v Speaker 1>super Shock creator and th HD kind of played that

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<v Speaker 1>role tonight next to him. We'll see I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see it when Lebron gets back, But it does seem

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<v Speaker 1>like he's he took a lot of those really bad

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<v Speaker 1>mid range shots. And then when you talked about where

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<v Speaker 1>you try to keep the dribble alive, like that stuff's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen. And I always said, like Russ isn't gonna change,

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<v Speaker 1>like his turnovers and his shot selection is gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>down more of a function of getting more superior ball

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<v Speaker 1>handy next to him. It's like playing next to Lebron.

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<v Speaker 1>I really I really hope they can kind of stagger

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<v Speaker 1>them a little bit better than they did tonight. And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was a difference in the game for me.

0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Like Russ was a plus three, th HD a plus

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<v Speaker 1>three a D plus five, Like our bench was just atrocious,

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<v Speaker 1>like those Rondo minutes. Rondo was a minus ten and

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<v Speaker 1>twelve minutes, which is kind of impressive. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>like putting them both off in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter, I thought it was a huge strategic mistake. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I think Vogo try to buy a few

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<v Speaker 1>minutes with the DeAndre Jordan's lineup, and I thought he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know, kay job. We went up one and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just expecting a time out or a D to

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<v Speaker 1>come in, and then Chris Middleton knocked off six straight

0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:08.880
<v Speaker 1>points to put us down five. I thought that really

0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:12.080
<v Speaker 1>changed the game. But again, good process, Like we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hung with the Bucks when the best players were

0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:16.560
<v Speaker 1>on the floor, and I think that's what's important. Yannest again,

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<v Speaker 1>insane first half. There's a lot of scheme stuff I

0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:23.040
<v Speaker 1>was confused by. We kept switching the Middleton Janice pick

0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:25.200
<v Speaker 1>and roll late in that game, and it just led

0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:27.960
<v Speaker 1>to Janice having like th ht on him with you know,

0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:30.240
<v Speaker 1>Carmelo as the low man, as the bottom man trying

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<v Speaker 1>to help. I thought that was really plum mixing. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>the pick and roll the pocket pass was too easy

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<v Speaker 1>for you honest on some of those. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>went eighteen for twenty two tonight. I'm just thinking that's

0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:41.840
<v Speaker 1>just even with the three for four from three, I'm sorry,

0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:44.800
<v Speaker 1>eighteen three for four from three, it's that's still an

0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:47.080
<v Speaker 1>insane efficient night. I thought we made a little too

0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:49.920
<v Speaker 1>easy for him on some place, But he's honest, He's

0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:52.280
<v Speaker 1>special in that way. But Yeah, this is a good game,

0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:54.640
<v Speaker 1>and this was a This was a winning type of game.

0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Like you could have won this game if shooting went

0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:58.600
<v Speaker 1>your way, a few calls went your way, and that's

0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.479
<v Speaker 1>all you can really ask. With the team shorthanded without Lebron,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully we get none in the reason back soon. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is a good process game. Still a lot of

0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:07.520
<v Speaker 1>ugly offense, Still a lot of post of for a

0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:10.600
<v Speaker 1>D that I think get minimized when Lebron's back, just

0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:13.040
<v Speaker 1>to control the offense. But this was this was a

0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:15.360
<v Speaker 1>good process man, Like this is this is a positive

0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.239
<v Speaker 1>game to take from. Yeah. Agree. I wanted to talk

0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:20.520
<v Speaker 1>about Joannice for a second because I think it was

0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:22.440
<v Speaker 1>a very interesting Joannice game in a lot of ways,

0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:24.520
<v Speaker 1>with the first half with the Lakers, the way that

0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:27.200
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers decided to defend him. And then the second

0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:29.440
<v Speaker 1>in the second half with the officiating. So first of all,

0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, I wrote down in my notes that in

0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the first half the Lakers were scared of your honest contact.

0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:40.919
<v Speaker 1>It seemed like when Janice would attempt to bully his

0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:43.359
<v Speaker 1>way to the rim, people had a tendency to just

0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:45.760
<v Speaker 1>get out of his way. You know, I talk a

0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:47.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of I talk a lot with Austin Reeves about

0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:51.520
<v Speaker 1>how he's not afraid to take the contact and the ugly,

0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the ugly jobs on the court, chasing guys over the

0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:56.040
<v Speaker 1>top of the screens, putting his body in harm's way.

0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:57.920
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna get a blood, he knows he's gonna get

0:21:57.960 --> 0:21:59.560
<v Speaker 1>hit in the mouth, he's gonna get that kind of stuff,

0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:01.879
<v Speaker 1>but he doesn't care because he's willing to do the

0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:04.360
<v Speaker 1>dirty work. That's the way you have to guard Janice

0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:06.960
<v Speaker 1>in the pain. You have to be willing to put

0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:09.600
<v Speaker 1>your body on the line. And then through that entire

0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:13.000
<v Speaker 1>first half, it was like they tried to stop the action,

0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:16.720
<v Speaker 1>but once Janic's got his catch within five ft of

0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:18.440
<v Speaker 1>the ram or within seven or eight feet of the rim,

0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:21.160
<v Speaker 1>they kind of just conceded the basket. You know and

0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:24.320
<v Speaker 1>for starters, that's not gonna happen in a playoff series.

0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:27.040
<v Speaker 1>That was I thought just some bad I thought that

0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:30.280
<v Speaker 1>was just like some regular season hey, let's cut our

0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:33.159
<v Speaker 1>losses here type of behavior from the Lakers. In the

0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:36.040
<v Speaker 1>second half, they did a much better job of making

0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:39.320
<v Speaker 1>him take tough shots, of making him his life more

0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:42.359
<v Speaker 1>difficult around the rim, and that's the reason why he

0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:44.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't have twenty eight again in the second half. Now,

0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I also want to come clear, officiating is not the

0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:52.800
<v Speaker 1>reason the Lakers lost this game. It is kind of

0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:56.240
<v Speaker 1>an expectation that when you go on the road in

0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:59.000
<v Speaker 1>a hostile environment, the home team is gonna get some

0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:02.199
<v Speaker 1>calls in their favor. Right, talked about him earlier. To me,

0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that's not that's not out of the ordinary and NBA basketball, however,

0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:09.679
<v Speaker 1>there's this thing that happens with Lebron in his career

0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:12.720
<v Speaker 1>where over the course of the last twenty years, the

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:16.240
<v Speaker 1>refs understood, especially in the last six, seven, eight years,

0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:19.400
<v Speaker 1>where like, hey, Lebron is initiating a lot of contact here.

0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:23.639
<v Speaker 1>So you know, Laker fans incessantly bitch and moan about

0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 1>the fact that Lebron doesn't get calls and I tend

0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:28.679
<v Speaker 1>to think that Lebron is officiated pretty fair, you know,

0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Like there are a lot of plays where Lebron will

0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:34.120
<v Speaker 1>get into someone's chest, off arm the hell out of him,

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:36.359
<v Speaker 1>bullyball the hell out of him, and get hacked at

0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:38.120
<v Speaker 1>the end, and they won't call it in the way

0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I see it. It's like, you know, you're given someone

0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:42.200
<v Speaker 1>you're getting some you know what I mean that that's

0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:45.080
<v Speaker 1>the ref understanding. This is the way Lebron plays, so

0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:46.760
<v Speaker 1>this is the way it's gonna go at the end,

0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and we kind of have to give the defender some leeway. Well,

0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:52.679
<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason, that same leeway does not exist with

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:55.000
<v Speaker 1>your honest and it drives me insaying, I'm not sure

0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 1>if it's because it's early in his career. I'm not

0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:59.560
<v Speaker 1>sure if it's because maybe he's just a touch more athletic,

0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, in the sense that like he's getting a

0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:03.880
<v Speaker 1>little bit more of an advantage on those plays. Maybe

0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:07.080
<v Speaker 1>it's just that simple. But what bothers me is Janice

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:10.240
<v Speaker 1>has given a great deal of leeway to initiate contact,

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 1>and the defenders are not given that same amount of leeway.

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 1>And so some of these plays where like where like

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 1>like the honest play that got challenged, Like when you're

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.840
<v Speaker 1>extending your off arm into the guy's chest. I'm sorry,

0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:25.639
<v Speaker 1>ad shouldn't have to abide by verticality. Okay, he should

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 1>be able to take a little bit of your position

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:30.560
<v Speaker 1>away since he's coming into your position. You know what

0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:33.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean. It's it's it's It's just the same thing

0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:35.160
<v Speaker 1>with that th HT post up where he got called

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:37.760
<v Speaker 1>the foul on the hook shot with Janice. It's like, dude,

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:41.639
<v Speaker 1>Janice is literally trying to bully this kid. You gotta

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:44.560
<v Speaker 1>give him some leeway in return. It's the same way

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:49.080
<v Speaker 1>that Lebron is officiated now and again, I I'm not

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:52.240
<v Speaker 1>insulting Janice. I think Janice is a bona fide top

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 1>tier superstar. I thought he was incredible tonight. I think

0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:57.040
<v Speaker 1>he's better than Anthony Davis. I thought it was still

0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:02.159
<v Speaker 1>brought up. But there it bothers me the way that

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 1>he's officiated because we have a similar archetype in Lebron,

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>who does the same thing initiate you know, a ship

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:11.119
<v Speaker 1>ton of contact and then guys hack him at the

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 1>end of plays and we let that stuff go. That

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing has to eventually take shape with your

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:18.159
<v Speaker 1>honest or no one's ever going to be able to

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:22.159
<v Speaker 1>stop the guy. Yeah, I mean I thought tonight we

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 1>just didn't matter. The honest comes with a certain level

0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:27.360
<v Speaker 1>of physicality that you have to at least match right

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and again the physical stuff, the calls like he shot,

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I think what for. I don't know how many free

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:34.119
<v Speaker 1>those he shot tonight. I didn't feel like you went

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 1>to the line a bunch. Uh oh, yeah, eleven free

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 1>throws okay, But yeah, like I just thought we didn't

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:41.400
<v Speaker 1>match his physicality in the first half. And it's tough.

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, he probably gets a couple more

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 1>calls in that way. I think there's a lot of

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 1>superstars where you kind of see that Paul George gets

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:49.800
<v Speaker 1>away with that like push off a lot and stuff

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:51.639
<v Speaker 1>like that. But again, like tonight, I thought it was

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 1>just a physicality thing that we didn't match him in

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:56.360
<v Speaker 1>that first half. It was too easy. Um, he really

0:25:56.400 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 1>gets up when he plays a D for some reason,

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:01.359
<v Speaker 1>like he definitely takes that match a personal and uh,

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 1>A D definitely doesn't see it this way for whatever

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>reason that is, that is what it is. But I

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>thought Joanna's definitely like there was a lot of plays

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 1>in transition where he's just like, I'm going through your chest.

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:13.640
<v Speaker 1>And I thought there was a lot of that where um,

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 1>a D picked it up in the second half, but

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:17.360
<v Speaker 1>in that first half it was just too easy. Um

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>just straight line one one move, drives right to the basket,

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:23.159
<v Speaker 1>just and a lot of that is is be honest,

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 1>and he's just a super physical dude. But yeah, like

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I just thought that there was a lot of just

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 1>not matching his physicality in that first half. He's gonna

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:32.399
<v Speaker 1>hit those. I thought we made him take some tough shots,

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 1>those turnaround fadeaways like you've lived with those. He made

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 1>a few of those three threes, Like if he wants

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 1>to take those, he can take those all day. But yeah,

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I thought a lot of a lot of his stuff

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 1>in that first half to me was sub scheme. Some

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:46.200
<v Speaker 1>of the defense just too easy on the pick and roll,

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>and then just not matching his physicality. And that's a

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 1>level like that's a generational skill to me from Jhanna,

0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:55.119
<v Speaker 1>is his motor to just play like that on a

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 1>nightly basis. Again, I think against a D it's it's

0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:00.640
<v Speaker 1>even more. But just like that's a general rational skill

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:02.200
<v Speaker 1>to me that he has that he has a motor

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>that's unmatched for a lot of players in the league,

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:08.400
<v Speaker 1>and you combine that with his work ethic and his

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.119
<v Speaker 1>his skill level, that's definitely increased. UM, And he had

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 1>a special first half. But again I thought a lot

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 1>of that was a D and the whole team not

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 1>matching his physicality. And maybe that's just because you know

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>when you have like like you said, on those plays

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:22.160
<v Speaker 1>where like a D would defend Drew and they would

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>get to the honest at the rim and they just

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 1>kind of give up. A lot of that was mellow

0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 1>who was who's kind of the back line guy. Expecting

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 1>him to do that is tough, UM. And again, like

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>you said, those probably won't happen in the playoffs. You

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 1>probably won't get situations definitely like that. But I thought

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it was just us not matching their

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 1>physicality until probably the third quarter where where things really

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 1>turn in, and they did a lot better job on him.

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis is a very physical defensive player, and he

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 1>has the ability to use his physicality to impact the

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>game on that end. But the truth of the matter

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:56.440
<v Speaker 1>is is even the best version of Anthony Davis has

0:27:56.640 --> 0:28:00.919
<v Speaker 1>physical limitations at the highest level of basketball, off it's okay.

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>So for instance, like when he's playing Denver and your

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>front line is like literally Michael Porter Jr. Jeremy Grant

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>and in Nicola, yokits. Yeah, he's gonna be able to

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>be physically dominant in a lot of ways. When you're

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 1>playing against Houston and they don't have a center and

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 1>you're posting up PJ. Tucker every time, Yeah, Anthony Davis

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>is going to have a certain amount of offensive physical presence.

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>But look at what happened in that Miami Heat series

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 1>when it became when it came down to bam out

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:29.360
<v Speaker 1>of Bio and you know, big, strong, physical forwards all

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:31.879
<v Speaker 1>over the floor, Anthony Davis turned into a jump shooter

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>in that series. If you look, the vast majority of

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:37.919
<v Speaker 1>his around the basket finishes were either set up by

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>other people or offensive rebound putbacks when Lebron would get

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>to the rim and miss a lay up, or Rohndo

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>would get to the rim missile lay up something along

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>those lines. They in post up situations were able to

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>turn him into a jump shooter. So when it comes

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>to a game like this, you can try to match

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>he can try to match Jannice with intensity, but the

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 1>truth of the matter is is and when he's posting

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>up Semio Jala or he's put post thing up you know,

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Jana Santana Coopo, he's gonna take fain aways. That's just

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 1>that's just what he's gonna do. And then at that

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>point it becomes a maker miss game, you know. And

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>so that that to me is you know, the defining

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>characteristic that separates the two of them. This is something

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>we talked about on a pod a few weeks back.

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 1>But Janice just has that ability to break you down

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>off the dribble and get into the paint anytime he wants,

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and the only way you're gonna stop him is by

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 1>putting multiple bodies in the way, in which case you're

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna have turned turned the team into a jump shooting

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>team in that regard. But there is a a the

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>defining difference between the two of them is that ability, Like, yeah,

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>a d against the best forward defenders in the league

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>is probably going to be a jump shooter in isolation situations.

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean he's not still deeply impactful offensively as

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>a guy who can screen and roll to the rim.

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:49.600
<v Speaker 1>And screen and pop and do things as as a

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>floor spacer, and his value in that regard is massive.

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 1>But when you're comparing him to the very top tier

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>of stars, that's that one differentiating factor. So that when

0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 1>people say, like, oh, Johannest took it to a D tonight,

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like, that's kind of what it's gonna look like

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>because they're to me, they're totally different archetypes of players.

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 1>But I thought Anthony Davis overall was fantastic tonight, and

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 1>he was great defensively, especially in the second half. His

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>jumper continues to trend in the right direction. What is

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 1>this his fifteenth or sixteenth consecutive game that he's played

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 1>this season, So he's starting to get his rhythm, he's

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:25.239
<v Speaker 1>starting to get his legs underneath him. Obviously he got

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 1>a little banged ups and I looked like he looked

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>like a dead leg is what it seemed like to me.

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 1>It looked like he got need in the thigh somewhere.

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:33.959
<v Speaker 1>That that's what it seemed like he was favoring. Um.

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure we'll learn more in the post game, but

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I I I'm really really happy with the way Anthony

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Davis is progressing. If you're looking at this from thirty

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>thousand feet in the air, you can you can look

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 1>at a couple of huge benchmarks here that should bring

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>some optimism. One Lebron is coming back. Two Russ is

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>starting to kind of figure out how he can help

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>this particular team. Three Anthony Davis is starting to make

0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 1>jump shots again and physically looks as good as he's

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 1>ever looked. And four th h T appears to be

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:04.959
<v Speaker 1>progressing to be a star. If you count all four

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 1>of those things, that's a lot of reason to get

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>very excited about this team ceiling. And I know that

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>seems crazy to say, because um and it's been largely

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 1>a disaster up to this point, but I mean weirdly,

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 1>losing on the road in Milwaukee to drop the five

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, here in the middle of November is the

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 1>point where I feel most optimistic about this team, which

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe I'm saying I did too. And I

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>just the last point on the Johanna's first a D

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and again those comparisons to me, like I think you

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>honest has kind of ended those especially as a number

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 1>one option and honest just a different type of player

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>than a D is, but I just think the Bucks

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>do some things to put him in positions that like

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to see the Lakers do. Like the Lakers

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 1>do a lot of this where they take half the

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>shot clock running like Rondo sads a cross screen or

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 1>something for a D to get a post up, and

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>he eventually just post up another super strong power forward

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's like they're helping off a badly in the corner.

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 1>But like I think a D like he's not I

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Janice probably is the better ball handler, I guess,

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>but to me, like a D has some ball handling

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>skills that like I'd love to see us put in use,

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like we just try to force him

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 1>to be this ISO post up big and the Bucks

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 1>to this thing where like and they scored off off

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>of it twice to night where Pat Contaton comes, they

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 1>do like an inverted screen or your honest is at

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>the top, and because you're playing off so far, they

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 1>do an inverted s feen where Counting comes and sets

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 1>his pick and so basically eight Janice gets to go

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>downhill or you leave Pat Counting right, either the Guards

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>shows on nice or Pat Conaton is open for three

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>and it gets Johannice going downhill, It gets him in

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the rhythm in a way where it's not just throw

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>a post entry to you honest, where he's still good

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:44.719
<v Speaker 1>at that. He can still bully players in the basket,

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>but be honest, gets a lot of buckets in that

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 1>way where I'd love to see a D kind of

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 1>get a little bit more ball handling duties at the

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 1>top of the key instead of just giving the ball

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>like at the high post, where like it's Russ or

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Rondo giving him the post entry in the floor that's

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 1>already super cramped where the paint is cramped. So just

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 1>like again, I'm seeing good stuff, but I just would

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>like us to kind of tap into more of what

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>a D can do. I think I think he's still

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 1>being put in a lot of situations where it's just

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:13.959
<v Speaker 1>one or two skills. It's either a step back jumper

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 1>or you know, a drive to three people. Um, so

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 1>like that those are kind of things I'd like to see.

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 1>But you're right, this good process going. It's just when

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I watched the bucks and like your honest also gets

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like plays where like he gets the

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>rebound and he just dribbles it up and he's able

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 1>to kind of feel in rhythm and like a D

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, he gets the rebound, it's like right away,

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>give it to a guard, and I'm like, I feel

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>like he can push the ball as well. Like there's

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff that I'd love to see us open the floor

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 1>for him because he is super skilled. I'd love for

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>us to kind of use those skills more than just

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>as opposed. Do you know what I mean by that? Like,

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>obviously he's not your honest, he's not a give the

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 1>ball to him every possession and run your offense through it.

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>But I just think like there's more that we can

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 1>tap into with a D that and again, he's his

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 1>numbers are still insane, he's still you know, he's been

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 1>carrying us for a lot of this season. I just

0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>feel like there's more there than than we're seeing with

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>a D. No. So I I percent agree. And the

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 1>main reason that that what you're getting at here is

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 1>so smart is post defense is the number one area

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:11.840
<v Speaker 1>in the NBA right now where defenders are allowed to

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 1>be physical, and so in a weird way, it kind

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:18.720
<v Speaker 1>of is like the wrong It's just it's the wrong

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 1>era almost to four speed post players you know they're

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 1>there are handful of guys in the league who do really,

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 1>really well there. But the truth of the matter is

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 1>is like as a guy like Anthony Davis with a

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 1>really high center of gravity that's easy to knock off balance,

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's it's not the best place for him

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>to attack. I agree with you, like with all the

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>shooting that you have on this team, getting him in

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>the situations with a live dribble out by the three

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 1>point line, or doing a lot more of like let's

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 1>do quick pick and pops and hit him where the

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 1>defenders kind of closing out at him so that he

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>can just do quick rip throughs and things along those

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>lines to give him a little bit of an advantage.

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 1>I I really would like to see more of that.

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 1>He's never going to be able to consistently break a

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 1>team down the dribble from the perimeter because his like

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>side to side quickness is not as good as a

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 1>guy like Janice Right, So like Joannice can do these

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:10.800
<v Speaker 1>like rip throughs and jab steps and crossovers where he

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>covers a lot of ground really fast and no one

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:15.240
<v Speaker 1>can really stay in front of him on the perimeter.

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis is a little bit more of like a uh.

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, what makes him such a versatile big is

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:23.880
<v Speaker 1>more his finesse in his length than it is his

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>speed and quickness. You know, that's not necessarily his strong point,

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:31.320
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like like Joannice literally moves

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 1>like a guard. That's the huge difference there and what

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>allows him to consistently attack off the dribble. But that

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean he can't do it more of it, and

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>especially in specific matchups to your point, when you like,

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:47.359
<v Speaker 1>I would love to see more Anthony Davis attacking off

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:49.839
<v Speaker 1>the dribble against a team like Denver, you know, where

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 1>it's like he's going to be going against your kits

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 1>where he does have a footspeed advantage. You know, even

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 1>against Robert Williams on Friday Night, that'd be another interesting

0:35:57.840 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 1>matchup to see him do a little bit more off

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 1>the dr But I'm with you, just like force feeding

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis post ups. Uh, there was a stat that

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I saw the other day that his postops and in

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 1>a in a fadeaway jump shot like that. That that's

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 1>that that's just the and that I'm not even sure

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:15.800
<v Speaker 1>how they factor that in whether or not those count

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>past attempts or shots towards the rim. I'm not sure

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 1>what the exact map was there, but the point is is,

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 1>like Anthony Davis post ups shouldn't be his only isolation attack.

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 1>They should find varying ways to get him involved in

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 1>that regard. Yeah, and like even the screen of roll actions,

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:36.920
<v Speaker 1>like to me, the rondo a D screen of roll

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 1>has become almost pointless sometimes, like because the defender is

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>so off, A D gets zero contact on the screen,

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:45.279
<v Speaker 1>like I'd like him to be more being like just

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 1>how the Bucks used honest like as him as a

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 1>screener so much like I would like to him to

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:52.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of play more with Leek Monk as a screen

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 1>and screening roll big, Like I know this competent, right,

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not comparing the two players at all. It

0:36:57.640 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 1>just feels like we're fitting a D be like Dirk,

0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:03.799
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like we're running actions as

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 1>if he's Dirk and he's not the shooter Dirk is.

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:08.959
<v Speaker 1>And also he's not like he's a much quicker player

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.320
<v Speaker 1>than Dirk, and he has like more off the dribble

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:13.359
<v Speaker 1>game to me, And You're right, a D doesn't have

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 1>like the strong one move that Janice can do left

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:19.320
<v Speaker 1>to right crossover. But to me, like his handle is strong,

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>like he has the you know, he does all these

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:24.720
<v Speaker 1>like in and out dribble, in and out crossovers on biggs.

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:26.440
<v Speaker 1>But I would just like to see more of that.

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I just don't see it enough to me, And and

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>the screens as well. I don't know if it's on

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:32.919
<v Speaker 1>a D or if it's the guard, but just there's

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>no contact on him, so like the guards are fighting

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:37.719
<v Speaker 1>over and there's just no space traded. And like you

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>see th ht Rondo Russ throw lobs into traffic basically

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:44.920
<v Speaker 1>right because no one has helped. You haven't caused anywhere,

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 1>you haven't caused any help, so either just throwing a

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:49.400
<v Speaker 1>lab up and having a D play jump ball with

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 1>like nice or whever the big is. So yeah, like

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I think a D is more skilled than we're seeing,

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 1>I guess, And I just I don't know, again that's

0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:58.440
<v Speaker 1>some on a D as well, just his aggression or

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:00.479
<v Speaker 1>lack there of it. But I just want to see

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>him more in ball handling situations where it's not just

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, him with the back to his back when

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 1>the with his back to the basket trying to make

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:10.880
<v Speaker 1>decisions because you could tell that's not where he's comfortable,

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Like like you saw him trying to read where the

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 1>traps are going and it's like a second laye that

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>it needs to be something on most times, and like

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 1>that's just not where he's comfortable at. So I'd love

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:22.359
<v Speaker 1>to see just a little bit more of like ball

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>handling responsibilities for him as a as an attacker. So

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 1>to kind of put a bowl on tonight. Um with

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Lebron coming back on Friday, how do you see, like

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>what what kind of rotation changes do you expect? Who

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:42.239
<v Speaker 1>do you expect to fall out of the rotation? What

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 1>do you expect the starting lineup to look like? How

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:47.919
<v Speaker 1>do you expect the flow of the game to go. Yeah,

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of questions, but I'll start, I'll

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll definitely start with the starting lineup. So I don't

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 1>think THHD is going anywhere, Like I just can't see

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>them taking him out of the starting lineup. He's shooting

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 1>too well to me as well from three, So I

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 1>definitely think it would be Russ probably th HD, ron

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:09.359
<v Speaker 1>A D and then I'm not really sure on the

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>fourth spot. To be honest, I hope I'm guessing it's

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Wayne Ellington. They're going to continue with a D at

0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the five. But like to me, like there's no reason

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 1>for Rondo to play right now, Like, I just don't

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 1>think you need to. I don't think DeAndre Jordan needs

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 1>to play either, And honestly, Baysmore, we'll see. I thought

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 1>it was another rough night for him. He played hard,

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 1>but he's probably out of the rotation as well. So

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I just want to I just want to see them

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>stagger like Russ and Braun and maybe even th HD

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>in there, because like that's probably give them their best

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 1>chance to win. And obviously Lebron solves a lot of

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 1>these issues. Lebron is not only the power forward, he's

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 1>also the backup point guard, which also helps a lot

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 1>of those line ups. But how about you, man, I

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 1>like that's how I see the starting lineup going. I

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:51.879
<v Speaker 1>know that I feel like THD is gonna stand there

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 1>next to Russ Brown and a D and then that

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:58.720
<v Speaker 1>fourth guy I think probably Wayne Ellington or Avery Bradley,

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 1>one of those two Vogo. I still want to just

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>go badly for defense, But how do you see that?

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:05.839
<v Speaker 1>As then t HD has to start, he's too he's

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 1>too good, like I mean, like I he's looked so

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 1>good in these last two games that it literally doesn't

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 1>make sense to bring him off the bench. Now, you

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 1>you might think, oh, traditional sixth man role, which is

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 1>where my brain usually goes, because you've got, uh, you know,

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:22.359
<v Speaker 1>redundancies in the starting lineup when you got that many

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 1>drivel drive guys. But you know, generically or like historically

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 1>in the NBA, the sixth man type of off the

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:33.359
<v Speaker 1>bench scoring archetype. Your Lou Williams, your Jerry Stackhouse, your

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Jamal Crawford, that type of guy. They're almost always bad

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:38.920
<v Speaker 1>defensive players. And the dirty little secret to why they

0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:41.719
<v Speaker 1>come off the bench is because they're bad defensive players

0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:44.960
<v Speaker 1>like that. That's that's usually the rationale behind that kind

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:47.359
<v Speaker 1>of decision. T HD has been one of the best

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>defenders on the team so far in the two games

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 1>that he's played. Obviously, don't want to give too much

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:54.799
<v Speaker 1>credit in that regard, but anyway, point being like you

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 1>have you have to start t HD. So you look

0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 1>at the if you look at the flow of the

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:00.360
<v Speaker 1>game and the way that they usually subs to the

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 1>stars because of the way that Anthony Davis likes to

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:06.560
<v Speaker 1>play full quarters, and because of the fact that Russ

0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 1>likes to take quick short rests instead of longer drawn

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 1>out rests, what ends up happening is Lebron Russ comes out,

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, like quick, like usually first. This year they're

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.759
<v Speaker 1>pushing Lebron sub a little bit later. He comes out

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 1>like to like three quarters of the way through the

0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 1>first quarter. So it goes. It goes from like the

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 1>starters to like a Lebron a D group to like

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.360
<v Speaker 1>an a D Russ group, and then a D and

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Rust both come out and it turns into like a

0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Lebron with the bench guys group, and then Russ comes

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 1>back in quick and it turns into like a Lebron

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Russ group, and then Lebron comes out. It goes to

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Lebron a D so you can kind of see how

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 1>and then Russ comes back in and it's the starter,

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 1>so you can kind of see how the staggering works.

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 1>There to be two stars on the floor for the

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.839
<v Speaker 1>most part with Lebron as that extra guy. But now

0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 1>with th Ht thrown into that mix, you're gonna have

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>like a high level dribble creator on both wings at

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 1>all times, which is a super exciting prospect for you

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 1>know what this team is supposed to be. This is

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 1>something that the guys on at LFR have been preaching

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:13.040
<v Speaker 1>and it's something that I'm a big believer in. It's

0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:15.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of this I've been talking a lot about modern

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 1>basketball with the l a Clippers, right from the playoffs

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 1>last year. This idea like we're just gonna spread you out,

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's all this trible drive attack penetration, getting you

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 1>into rotation and then swinging the ball around the shooters right. Well,

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 1>in order for that to work, you've got to have

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:33.560
<v Speaker 1>multiple guys that can break down the defense off the

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 1>dribble at the point of attack, either through prick and

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 1>roll or literally just beating a guy off the dribble

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 1>from the perimeter. Well, having this many guys the way

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers have, it's starting to trend in that direction.

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:46.040
<v Speaker 1>They need to go away from postops. We talked a

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:48.760
<v Speaker 1>little bit about this earlier, instead of going really heavy

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis postops, really heavy Lebron postops, which by the way,

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:55.799
<v Speaker 1>you can still do in specific matchups and specific situations

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:57.960
<v Speaker 1>as a wrinkle to throw in there. But I'd like

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:00.799
<v Speaker 1>to see just a lot more get four guys out,

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 1>have either a D or Dwight set of high screen

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 1>and roll, or even go five out sometimes when a

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:08.719
<v Speaker 1>D s on the floor and just let th Ht,

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Russell Westbrook and Lebron James beat guys off the dribble

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:15.399
<v Speaker 1>and just start getting the team into rotation because it's

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 1>always going to be shooters around them. Now, that's what's

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:21.840
<v Speaker 1>so exciting about this formula is we have real bona

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:25.319
<v Speaker 1>fide knockdown three point shooters, although tonight they didn't show that,

0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 1>but the point being like that, this formula is starting

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>to look a lot less like the where we're you know,

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Championship Lakers that were like a literally almost like a

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 1>nineties team that just was trying to pulverize you with

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 1>size and physicality too. Now we're doing this modern basketball space,

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 1>the floor drive and kick offense that that makes a

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 1>whole lot of sense and still have the physicality that

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 1>comes from having Lebron and a d oh and guess

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 1>what are other two dribble drive guards? Rust and and

0:43:56.960 --> 0:44:00.120
<v Speaker 1>th HT are like physical specimens at the position sh

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 1>and that are gonna have a whole other side of

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, physical impact on the opponent. Just in their

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:08.959
<v Speaker 1>own right, you know. So I I I'm really really

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 1>excited to see everybody fall into the roles here. I

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 1>think we'll see a lot less phase more. I don't think.

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:16.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you'll see DeAndre Jordan at all, except

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 1>when Dwight Howard is resting like you did in the

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 1>second half tonight. I think a reason complicates things even further.

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.080
<v Speaker 1>But I would not be surprised if it turn if

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Bradley falls entirely out, bays More falls entirely out, and

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 1>they just play the shooters and it turns basically into

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Dwight A d lebron th HD Russ and then Ellington

0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Monk Mellow, you know what I mean, And and maybe

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:41.759
<v Speaker 1>some a reason in there when he gets going. But

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:45.120
<v Speaker 1>it just with the with the physical imposing nature of

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:48.880
<v Speaker 1>those for those core four players, you can get away

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:52.960
<v Speaker 1>with playing less physical shooters around them. And so I

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 1>that's that's kind of the way I see it going. Yeah,

0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I was like, even tonight, I really

0:44:57.920 --> 0:44:59.759
<v Speaker 1>wanted them to just put a shooter in where you

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Bradley is. And I understand Vogels, you know, love for

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Avery Bradley. It makes sense even going small. It's just

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 1>like oh to his past team, right, every Bradley represents

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:12.280
<v Speaker 1>like a defensive minded first player who can't space the floor,

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:14.360
<v Speaker 1>but teams just don't guard him in a way. Like

0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 1>even Wayne Ellington, I who was one for seven, Like

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:19.439
<v Speaker 1>they still guard him like he has a certain level

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 1>of gravity that I think is important. And I think

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 1>that's important on Friday as well in Boston, Like, I

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:27.920
<v Speaker 1>just think you can't have a non shooter in that space,

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:30.359
<v Speaker 1>even with the shooting that th HD has shown. You

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 1>start Russ Braun in a d like teams are going

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 1>to pack the paint and then you add th HT

0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:37.960
<v Speaker 1>into that as special as he's been, Like, the paint

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:39.440
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be packed, and I just need at least

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:41.960
<v Speaker 1>one shooter in that spot. Whether it's Monk, but I'm

0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:44.400
<v Speaker 1>hoping it's Ellington. I think Ellington just has one of

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 1>a mature game right now. Monk is more of like

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 1>a hot and cold scorer type. And again Ellington and

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:52.200
<v Speaker 1>shoot well tonight. He just understands how to get open,

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 1>how to relocate right when he throws a pass and

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:56.719
<v Speaker 1>his man helps off him. He understands how to get

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:59.400
<v Speaker 1>into like the correct, correct passing angle, and I just

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 1>hope that he kind of starts, but I wouldn't be

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 1>surprised if we going with Bradley again just to kind

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 1>of keep keep that defensive minded first player in there.

0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 1>But that's why I hope happens. I hope probably start

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:10.360
<v Speaker 1>why allence and go all into this, you know, a

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:13.919
<v Speaker 1>d at the five, Brown at the four, just rust ball. Um.

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:15.799
<v Speaker 1>That's what I hope happens on Friday. Man. But I

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 1>think this team is kind of progressing. Like I think

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:20.799
<v Speaker 1>you just remove the Rondo minutes and uh and the

0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:23.600
<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Jordan minutes, but the Rondo minutes especially, just to

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 1>remove that from the rotation right now, it's just a

0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:28.960
<v Speaker 1>big boost in and of itself. And then obviously getting

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Lebron back, um, and you know this is this is

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:34.400
<v Speaker 1>a big road trip to me, Like, like I understand

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:36.879
<v Speaker 1>Brons just coming back, but I think, like you gotta

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:39.280
<v Speaker 1>win some of these games going up here after Boston.

0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:40.839
<v Speaker 1>I think it gets a little lighter. I think goes

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 1>like Indiana, Detroit or something like that. But it's a

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:44.879
<v Speaker 1>big road trip. Man. They're a and eight right now.

0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Like you get Lebron back now, Like I think this

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:48.960
<v Speaker 1>is the time to kind of go on go on

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:50.880
<v Speaker 1>a run here. I think so too. I think it

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 1>starts tomorrow Friday against Boston. I think the Lakers are

0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:55.759
<v Speaker 1>going to go on a run here. Um, We'll see

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:58.879
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things. Gotta go right, guys, gotta stay healthy. Um.

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 1>But this suddenly, with pht back and looking the way

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 1>he looks, and Lebron coming back, this suddenly becomes a

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 1>team that's gonna have a demonstrable talent advantage every single night,

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 1>like a big, big talent advantage. And when you couple

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:16.719
<v Speaker 1>that with the urgency associated with a record, and the

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:18.400
<v Speaker 1>fact that they have some ground to make up in

0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the standings, and the fact that these guys got to

0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:24.040
<v Speaker 1>be sick of losing. Um, I think I think we're

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:28.439
<v Speaker 1>gonna see a really solid stretch here of really good

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Laker basketball. And it sure would be great for them

0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 1>to beat the hell out of Brooklyn on Christmas Day

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:35.319
<v Speaker 1>to cap something like the stop that that would be.

0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:38.840
<v Speaker 1>That would be kind of like the target for a

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:40.879
<v Speaker 1>date that you'd like for them to kind of start

0:47:40.920 --> 0:47:43.759
<v Speaker 1>to hit a real real ceiling in that regard. But

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm I am really excited to really quickly a note

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 1>on Bradley both complained about Avery Bradley in recent days,

0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:56.040
<v Speaker 1>and again I'm not I'm not a huge fan of

0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 1>the some of the things that he does when he's

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:00.400
<v Speaker 1>on the court. Like, I think he's way too much

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:02.719
<v Speaker 1>of a gunner for what their guys actually need out

0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:05.480
<v Speaker 1>of that position. Um, the dude has never seen a

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:08.120
<v Speaker 1>shot he doesn't like. Uh, in his way too aggressive

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:09.759
<v Speaker 1>as a jump shooter early in the clock, and that

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:14.000
<v Speaker 1>can get irritating. Um. However, when you look at what

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:18.400
<v Speaker 1>he does in Frank's system, he's a predictable defensive option.

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:21.320
<v Speaker 1>You know. The mistakes he makes are mistakes that play

0:48:21.400 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 1>into their scheme. The his ball pressure, in his ability

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 1>to fight over screens is like absolutely necessary for the

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:32.200
<v Speaker 1>pick and roll coverages. So, like, would I prefer for

0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Ellington to be in the starters, Yes, to be clear,

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I would go with Ellington. I think the spacing is

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:40.799
<v Speaker 1>better with him, and he's enough of a you know,

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:45.719
<v Speaker 1>a fundamentally sound positional defender that it works. However, it

0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:47.840
<v Speaker 1>is also exciting to think about the ball pressure of

0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:51.040
<v Speaker 1>that group with with Avery Bradley, right, I mean it's

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 1>exciting to think about, like, hey, guess what you're you're playing,

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're going into to Boston and it's Marcus Smart,

0:48:58.200 --> 0:49:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Jayson Tatum and all these guys. It's like, guess what

0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:05.280
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have th HD, Avery Bradley and Russell Westbrook

0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Ball pressuring the living hell out of you from the

0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 1>opening tip like that that that's an exciting prospect in

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:12.799
<v Speaker 1>its own regard. My point is is, like I saw

0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:15.280
<v Speaker 1>a couple of people compare him today to DeAndre Jordan's

0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:18.479
<v Speaker 1>like the new DeAndre Jordan, meaning like the new guy

0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:21.480
<v Speaker 1>that makes no sense in the lineup book. I think

0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna fall out of the rotation I would start Allington's.

0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:27.399
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not disagreeing with like some of the rationale there,

0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:30.959
<v Speaker 1>but he's a hell of a lot better option than

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:33.359
<v Speaker 1>what could be, you know what I mean. Like it's

0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:37.080
<v Speaker 1>he's not that bad in that position. No, Yeah, And

0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I was a big fan of every badly you know,

0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:41.920
<v Speaker 1>two years ago, I was hoping they resigned him. I

0:49:41.960 --> 0:49:43.560
<v Speaker 1>wish he went to the bubble. He did not out

0:49:43.600 --> 0:49:46.520
<v Speaker 1>of his own decisions. He's a player that like kind

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 1>of fits what Vogel wants to do. And this is

0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:51.040
<v Speaker 1>not against Avery Bradley, is just a function of the team.

0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:54.000
<v Speaker 1>To me, it's just that you can't have a non

0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:57.000
<v Speaker 1>shooter in that space Bradley can shoot. That's a difference

0:49:57.040 --> 0:49:59.560
<v Speaker 1>between there's a difference between a guy who can't shoot

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 1>in an app lute shooter, right like when Hilton is

0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:03.960
<v Speaker 1>a shooter, they have to respect and I just don't

0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:06.439
<v Speaker 1>like the floor balance on that. Every Bradley plays hard,

0:50:06.480 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I think defensively, Like he plays hard. He's too small

0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:11.840
<v Speaker 1>sometimes in a lot of matchups, like that's his biggest

0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:14.520
<v Speaker 1>scribe to me, his his height, Like you just can't

0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:17.200
<v Speaker 1>match up. Sometimes he plays hard, he defends, he's a

0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:19.960
<v Speaker 1>good point of attack defender, Like there's no there's no

0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:22.360
<v Speaker 1>qualmy about that. But I'm just like saying, like, you

0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:24.360
<v Speaker 1>just can't play a nonshooter to me, with these a

0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:26.239
<v Speaker 1>d at the five line ups that we're trying to

0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:28.600
<v Speaker 1>run out here, there's just no space, especially when a

0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:31.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of the offense is posted up heavy. They're helping

0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:34.080
<v Speaker 1>off the same guy every time. Like to me, the

0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:36.799
<v Speaker 1>game changed to me in that third quarter when you

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:38.480
<v Speaker 1>when Avery Bradley came out and they put in I

0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:40.600
<v Speaker 1>believe Wayne Allington, and then he never came back in

0:50:40.640 --> 0:50:43.840
<v Speaker 1>the game. They kept Monk on there and the floor,

0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the floor balance of the spacing just looks so much better.

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 1>A d was able to get going a little bit.

0:50:48.680 --> 0:50:51.360
<v Speaker 1>T HD got some driving lines open, Russ got some

0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:53.839
<v Speaker 1>driving lines open. I think that's really important right now,

0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and we'll see when the Bron comes back all that

0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of changes. But yeah, nothing against Avery Bradley, Like

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's DeAndre Jordan's level of of of

0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:04.799
<v Speaker 1>effort or you know, or his impact on the game.

0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:06.640
<v Speaker 1>It's just to me, it's a function of the roster

0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:08.839
<v Speaker 1>right now. It's just I you can't play a non

0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:11.200
<v Speaker 1>shooter in that lineup with just how our offense is running.

0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:12.840
<v Speaker 1>But I mean that's different with Lebron out there. Like

0:51:12.880 --> 0:51:15.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe you can play every badly if Lebron's out there,

0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:17.480
<v Speaker 1>But to me, I'd rather just put a shooter in

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:20.680
<v Speaker 1>that spot. And I think Ballington has been defending well enough,

0:51:20.800 --> 0:51:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Like like he's not great, he's not going to be

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:25.439
<v Speaker 1>a plus defender, but like I think he's trying hard

0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:27.520
<v Speaker 1>and he fights, so I think that's all you can

0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:30.520
<v Speaker 1>really ask him. Yeah, I'm with you. I think we're

0:51:30.560 --> 0:51:32.400
<v Speaker 1>on the same page here. Like he's definitely not the

0:51:32.400 --> 0:51:36.719
<v Speaker 1>best option. All I'm saying is like this, the rationale

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<v Speaker 1>behind playing every badly makes more sense from the coaching

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<v Speaker 1>staff than the DeAndre Jordan thing did. This is all

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. But anyway, so that's all I had for tonight. Obviously, Rogers,

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<v Speaker 1>there's anything else in your notes you wanted to hit? Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>with an East coast road trip like this, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of it to try to end the night

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny bit early, to try to spend some time

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<v Speaker 1>with my wife for what. But did you have any

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<v Speaker 1>and you also wanted to hit tonight? The last thing

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<v Speaker 1>in my notes was like you could tell the difference

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<v Speaker 1>in chemistry been the Bucks and the Lakers, Right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was pretty clear. I thought the Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>knew exactly what they wanted to do, laid down the

0:52:10.680 --> 0:52:13.200
<v Speaker 1>stretch of that game, it was straight up Milton, the

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<v Speaker 1>honest picked and roll. They knew exactly where to be,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just wrote down like that's where I hope

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers kind of get to this season where they

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<v Speaker 1>know what they're doing. Late in the game, you could

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<v Speaker 1>tell they were kind of experimenting with that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the last thing I think shout out UH pick up

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<v Speaker 1>hoop who tweeted out th HT in three games this year,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three points, seven rebounds to assist UH six two

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<v Speaker 1>percent true shooting, Like that's kind of insane. Third game back,

0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:40.719
<v Speaker 1>twenty year old. So those numbers probably won't stay where

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<v Speaker 1>they are at um his you should will probably go

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<v Speaker 1>down with the brown going back. But I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>been the kind of theme the last few games here

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<v Speaker 1>is th HD is the real deal. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to kind of close out with here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he can be what because I don't think Russ is

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<v Speaker 1>long for the Lakers if this doesn't go well, like

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<v Speaker 1>obviously if they win the title, then you know they'll

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<v Speaker 1>keep him and this will all go well. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the reality is is that that that that fit of

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<v Speaker 1>having like the super high end playmaker i Q guy

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<v Speaker 1>like Lebron with the big that needs someone to set

0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:17.439
<v Speaker 1>him up like Anthony David that can create his own

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<v Speaker 1>shot and apply a ton of rim pressure and also defend.

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<v Speaker 1>That all makes a ton of sense. And so th

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<v Speaker 1>h T can slot right into that in the post

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<v Speaker 1>Russ era, you know what I mean, especially if he

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<v Speaker 1>continues to progress at this right. I cannot. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>impressed by how fast he's come along again, only three games,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've been really impressed. All right, guys, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>guys so much for coming to hang out tonight with

0:53:41.239 --> 0:53:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Roger and I. I'm glad that we were finally able

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<v Speaker 1>even after a loss, to hit on some good positivity

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<v Speaker 1>with this group. Um. This is going to arrow dash

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<v Speaker 1>right out tomorrow morning at seven am Pacific Standard time

0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:55.880
<v Speaker 1>and will be in our podcast feed hearing about fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, we sincerely appreciate your guys a support and

0:53:58.960 --> 0:54:00.720
<v Speaker 1>you come and hang out with us up to these games,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will see you for another early show on

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<v Speaker 1>Friday night. If you're not out party and having a

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<v Speaker 1>good time, you can come hang out with Roger and

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<v Speaker 1>I talk some basketball. Appreciate it. Thanks everyone,