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Speaker 1: M all right, welcome to the State of the Lakers

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Speaker 1: show on dash Bready. I think you guys so much

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Speaker 1: to come and hang out. I am very excited tonight.

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Speaker 1: This is the most excited I've been about this team

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Speaker 1: all season. I know that seems crazy coming off of

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Speaker 1: a loss, um, but I think there was so much

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get too far into it right away,

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Speaker 1: but I just wanted to kind of set that tone

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Speaker 1: game that the Lakers played on the road against the

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Speaker 1: defending champs in Milwaukee. I just I was super rest

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Speaker 1: you know, because obviously, with the scoreboard, may seem like

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Speaker 1: they didn't really have much of a chance to win,

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Speaker 1: but I thought, I thought that they missed a lot

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Speaker 1: of really good shots for really good shooters tonight, which

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Speaker 1: if even just a few of those go the other way,

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Speaker 1: this could be an entirely different outcome. So and that's

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Speaker 1: just one small part of it. But I was I

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Speaker 1: was really really excited. Th h tu looks freaking incredible.

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Speaker 1: There's a bunch of good that we're gonna get into tonight,

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Speaker 1: which excites me because Roger and I have just had

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Speaker 1: to sit here and bitch and moan basically the NonStop

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Speaker 1: your head at right now? Are you as optimistic as

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Speaker 1: I am? Yeah? This was a good game. Like we've

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Speaker 1: been begging the team not just get blown out right

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Speaker 1: and again tonight a game against the defending champs. They've

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Speaker 1: been struggling, but there's still they still have. Be honest,

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Speaker 1: they got Chris Milton back tonight. I'd expect the Lakers

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Speaker 1: to win, but they have definitely had a chance, and

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of good process stuff, like you

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Speaker 1: said tonight, just a lot of marginal decisions. I thought,

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Speaker 1: we can kind of get into that. But Lebron's coming

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Speaker 1: back Friday at least, that's that's the hopes And that

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Speaker 1: was kind of the pretense going into this game. I

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Speaker 1: was just kind of just want to look at some

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Speaker 1: good process stuff, and I thought we saw that tonight.

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Speaker 1: Janice had a crazy first half, but he also had

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Speaker 1: like three threes a couple of turnaround jumpers go in.

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Speaker 1: So like I thought some of the physicality we didn't match,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, just a lot of good stuff, like you said,

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Speaker 1: And definitely I think Taylor Horton Tucker is leading that

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Speaker 1: that might have some issues with spacing and stuff, but

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Speaker 1: if his jump shots real, man, he he to me

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Speaker 1: was the lead again of the story tonight. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think we should start with TNC as well. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's been worth trading him for something to buy into

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Speaker 1: the you know, a title window that that we that

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Speaker 1: my main concern was, like, hand, this kid contribute at

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Speaker 1: at least enough so that you don't feel like you're

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Speaker 1: I I called him in the last podcast, Mini Kauai,

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Speaker 1: And there was this thing that used to happen with

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Speaker 1: was really good at reaching without fouling, and we saw

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Speaker 1: a lot of that tonight. He was on my notes.

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Speaker 1: You may you remember, you may remember the big play

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Speaker 1: at the end of the game where he ripped Drew

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Speaker 1: an incredibly disruptive defender, which was something that we saw happening.

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Speaker 1: But we worried about whether or not he'd be able

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Speaker 1: if he gets his first step on you, there's nothing

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Speaker 1: well enough from the perimeter right now that he's at

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Speaker 1: least every bit as much of a threat as a

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Speaker 1: you can very much see that that th HD is

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Speaker 1: trending in the direction of being a bona fide pillar

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Speaker 1: a doubt, raises their sailing. And whatever you want to

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Speaker 1: process that this team has gone through in the way

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Speaker 1: that it's taken shape over the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: the reality of the situation is, is th HT making

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Speaker 1: a leap like this makes all of that not matter,

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Speaker 1: changes the ceiling of this team and I think everyone

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Speaker 1: Like he's driving to the rim, he's doing all these

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Speaker 1: it out and our shooters weren't really making shots tonight,

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Speaker 1: but just his shock curation is so needed. There are

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Speaker 1: And I think just his third game back, you could

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Speaker 1: he's making that leap right in front of us, and

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Speaker 1: so obviously that would change. But just without Lebron tonight,

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Speaker 1: I would have just loved to see him kind of

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Speaker 1: get the ball with him. But I wrote down in

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Speaker 1: And like you said, he got one step on Drew

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Speaker 1: his He's definitely got more skinny, but he's still super strong,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was probably our best guy on Chris

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Speaker 1: thought Chris Milton got off a little bit when he

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Speaker 1: But there was a play I think where THHD kind

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Speaker 1: he's definitely taking another step and it changes everything for

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Speaker 1: this season, to be honest, Like th HD taking a

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Speaker 1: but it was kind of hard to predict for a

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Speaker 1: twenty year old returning one I think next week. But

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Speaker 1: you're right, him taking a leap changes everything for this team.

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Speaker 1: You're adding a I think he can average. I'd say

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Speaker 1: he can average fifteen a game. Maybe I kind of

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Speaker 1: Like I thought he was a big part of why

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Speaker 1: like he's in over his skis because there's not enough

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Speaker 1: don't see. And again we're two we're two games in,

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Speaker 1: but This is absolutely something to get excited about. And

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Speaker 1: through this theoretical position there. You know, even Kendrick Nunn

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Speaker 1: But if you if you put him on that second

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Speaker 1: It's just, you know, again, I don't want to get tooated,

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Speaker 1: what's so amazing about a core built around th Ht, Lebron,

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Speaker 1: of hung with the Bucks when the best players were

431
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 1: on the floor, and I think that's what's important. Yannest again,

432
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 1: insane first half. There's a lot of scheme stuff I

433
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 1: was confused by. We kept switching the Middleton Janice pick

434
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,200
Speaker 1: and roll late in that game, and it just led

435
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 1: to Janice having like th ht on him with you know,

436
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 1: Carmelo as the low man, as the bottom man trying

437
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 1: to help. I thought that was really plum mixing. To me,

438
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,359
Speaker 1: the pick and roll the pocket pass was too easy

439
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 1: for you honest on some of those. I mean, he

440
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 1: went eighteen for twenty two tonight. I'm just thinking that's

441
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 1: just even with the three for four from three, I'm sorry,

442
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 1: eighteen three for four from three, it's that's still an

443
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 1: insane efficient night. I thought we made a little too

444
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,920
Speaker 1: easy for him on some place, But he's honest, He's

445
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 1: special in that way. But Yeah, this is a good game,

446
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,640
Speaker 1: and this was a This was a winning type of game.

447
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,719
Speaker 1: Like you could have won this game if shooting went

448
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 1: your way, a few calls went your way, and that's

449
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,479
Speaker 1: all you can really ask. With the team shorthanded without Lebron,

450
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 1: hopefully we get none in the reason back soon. But

451
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 1: this is a good process game. Still a lot of

452
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 1: ugly offense, Still a lot of post of for a

453
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: D that I think get minimized when Lebron's back, just

454
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 1: to control the offense. But this was this was a

455
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,360
Speaker 1: good process man, Like this is this is a positive

456
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,239
Speaker 1: game to take from. Yeah. Agree. I wanted to talk

457
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 1: about Joannice for a second because I think it was

458
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 1: a very interesting Joannice game in a lot of ways,

459
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 1: with the first half with the Lakers, the way that

460
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 1: the Lakers decided to defend him. And then the second

461
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 1: in the second half with the officiating. So first of all,

462
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,119
Speaker 1: you know, I wrote down in my notes that in

463
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: the first half the Lakers were scared of your honest contact.

464
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,919
Speaker 1: It seemed like when Janice would attempt to bully his

465
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 1: way to the rim, people had a tendency to just

466
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: get out of his way. You know, I talk a

467
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: lot of I talk a lot with Austin Reeves about

468
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: how he's not afraid to take the contact and the ugly,

469
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: the ugly jobs on the court, chasing guys over the

470
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: top of the screens, putting his body in harm's way.

471
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 1: He's gonna get a blood, he knows he's gonna get

472
00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 1: hit in the mouth, he's gonna get that kind of stuff,

473
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 1: but he doesn't care because he's willing to do the

474
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 1: dirty work. That's the way you have to guard Janice

475
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 1: in the pain. You have to be willing to put

476
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: your body on the line. And then through that entire

477
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: first half, it was like they tried to stop the action,

478
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: but once Janic's got his catch within five ft of

479
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 1: the ram or within seven or eight feet of the rim,

480
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: they kind of just conceded the basket. You know and

481
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: for starters, that's not gonna happen in a playoff series.

482
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: That was I thought just some bad I thought that

483
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: was just like some regular season hey, let's cut our

484
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 1: losses here type of behavior from the Lakers. In the

485
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: second half, they did a much better job of making

486
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: him take tough shots, of making him his life more

487
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 1: difficult around the rim, and that's the reason why he

488
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: didn't have twenty eight again in the second half. Now,

489
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: I also want to come clear, officiating is not the

490
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: reason the Lakers lost this game. It is kind of

491
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: an expectation that when you go on the road in

492
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: a hostile environment, the home team is gonna get some

493
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 1: calls in their favor. Right, talked about him earlier. To me,

494
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: that's not that's not out of the ordinary and NBA basketball, however,

495
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 1: there's this thing that happens with Lebron in his career

496
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: where over the course of the last twenty years, the

497
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: refs understood, especially in the last six, seven, eight years,

498
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 1: where like, hey, Lebron is initiating a lot of contact here.

499
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: So you know, Laker fans incessantly bitch and moan about

500
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: the fact that Lebron doesn't get calls and I tend

501
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 1: to think that Lebron is officiated pretty fair, you know,

502
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: Like there are a lot of plays where Lebron will

503
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 1: get into someone's chest, off arm the hell out of him,

504
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: bullyball the hell out of him, and get hacked at

505
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 1: the end, and they won't call it in the way

506
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: I see it. It's like, you know, you're given someone

507
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 1: you're getting some you know what I mean that that's

508
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: the ref understanding. This is the way Lebron plays, so

509
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: this is the way it's gonna go at the end,

510
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: and we kind of have to give the defender some leeway. Well,

511
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, that same leeway does not exist with

512
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: your honest and it drives me insaying, I'm not sure

513
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: if it's because it's early in his career. I'm not

514
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: sure if it's because maybe he's just a touch more athletic,

515
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: you know, in the sense that like he's getting a

516
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: little bit more of an advantage on those plays. Maybe

517
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: it's just that simple. But what bothers me is Janice

518
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: has given a great deal of leeway to initiate contact,

519
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: and the defenders are not given that same amount of leeway.

520
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: And so some of these plays where like where like

521
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: like the honest play that got challenged, Like when you're

522
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: extending your off arm into the guy's chest. I'm sorry,

523
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: ad shouldn't have to abide by verticality. Okay, he should

524
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: be able to take a little bit of your position

525
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: away since he's coming into your position. You know what

526
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: I mean. It's it's it's It's just the same thing

527
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: with that th HT post up where he got called

528
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: the foul on the hook shot with Janice. It's like, dude,

529
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: Janice is literally trying to bully this kid. You gotta

530
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: give him some leeway in return. It's the same way

531
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: that Lebron is officiated now and again, I I'm not

532
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: insulting Janice. I think Janice is a bona fide top

533
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: tier superstar. I thought he was incredible tonight. I think

534
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: he's better than Anthony Davis. I thought it was still

535
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: brought up. But there it bothers me the way that

536
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: he's officiated because we have a similar archetype in Lebron,

537
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: who does the same thing initiate you know, a ship

538
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: ton of contact and then guys hack him at the

539
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: end of plays and we let that stuff go. That

540
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: kind of thing has to eventually take shape with your

541
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: honest or no one's ever going to be able to

542
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 1: stop the guy. Yeah, I mean I thought tonight we

543
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: just didn't matter. The honest comes with a certain level

544
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 1: of physicality that you have to at least match right

545
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: and again the physical stuff, the calls like he shot,

546
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: I think what for. I don't know how many free

547
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: those he shot tonight. I didn't feel like you went

548
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: to the line a bunch. Uh oh, yeah, eleven free

549
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: throws okay, But yeah, like I just thought we didn't

550
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: match his physicality in the first half. And it's tough.

551
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 1: I agree with you, he probably gets a couple more

552
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: calls in that way. I think there's a lot of

553
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: superstars where you kind of see that Paul George gets

554
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: away with that like push off a lot and stuff

555
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: like that. But again, like tonight, I thought it was

556
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: just a physicality thing that we didn't match him in

557
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 1: that first half. It was too easy. Um, he really

558
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: gets up when he plays a D for some reason,

559
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: like he definitely takes that match a personal and uh,

560
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: A D definitely doesn't see it this way for whatever

561
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: reason that is, that is what it is. But I

562
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: thought Joanna's definitely like there was a lot of plays

563
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: in transition where he's just like, I'm going through your chest.

564
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: And I thought there was a lot of that where um,

565
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: a D picked it up in the second half, but

566
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: in that first half it was just too easy. Um

567
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: just straight line one one move, drives right to the basket,

568
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 1: just and a lot of that is is be honest,

569
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: and he's just a super physical dude. But yeah, like

570
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: I just thought that there was a lot of just

571
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: not matching his physicality in that first half. He's gonna

572
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: hit those. I thought we made him take some tough shots,

573
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: those turnaround fadeaways like you've lived with those. He made

574
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: a few of those three threes, Like if he wants

575
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: to take those, he can take those all day. But yeah,

576
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: I thought a lot of a lot of his stuff

577
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: in that first half to me was sub scheme. Some

578
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: of the defense just too easy on the pick and roll,

579
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: and then just not matching his physicality. And that's a

580
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: level like that's a generational skill to me from Jhanna,

581
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: is his motor to just play like that on a

582
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: nightly basis. Again, I think against a D it's it's

583
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: even more. But just like that's a general rational skill

584
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: to me that he has that he has a motor

585
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: that's unmatched for a lot of players in the league,

586
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: and you combine that with his work ethic and his

587
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: his skill level, that's definitely increased. UM, And he had

588
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: a special first half. But again I thought a lot

589
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: of that was a D and the whole team not

590
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: matching his physicality. And maybe that's just because you know

591
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: when you have like like you said, on those plays

592
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: where like a D would defend Drew and they would

593
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: get to the honest at the rim and they just

594
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: kind of give up. A lot of that was mellow

595
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: who was who's kind of the back line guy. Expecting

596
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: him to do that is tough, UM. And again, like

597
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: you said, those probably won't happen in the playoffs. You

598
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: probably won't get situations definitely like that. But I thought

599
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: a lot of it was just us not matching their

600
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: physicality until probably the third quarter where where things really

601
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: turn in, and they did a lot better job on him.

602
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis is a very physical defensive player, and he

603
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: has the ability to use his physicality to impact the

604
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: game on that end. But the truth of the matter

605
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: is is even the best version of Anthony Davis has

606
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: physical limitations at the highest level of basketball, off it's okay.

607
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: So for instance, like when he's playing Denver and your

608
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: front line is like literally Michael Porter Jr. Jeremy Grant

609
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: and in Nicola, yokits. Yeah, he's gonna be able to

610
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: be physically dominant in a lot of ways. When you're

611
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: playing against Houston and they don't have a center and

612
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: you're posting up PJ. Tucker every time, Yeah, Anthony Davis

613
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: is going to have a certain amount of offensive physical presence.

614
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: But look at what happened in that Miami Heat series

615
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: when it became when it came down to bam out

616
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 1: of Bio and you know, big, strong, physical forwards all

617
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: over the floor, Anthony Davis turned into a jump shooter

618
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: in that series. If you look, the vast majority of

619
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: his around the basket finishes were either set up by

620
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: other people or offensive rebound putbacks when Lebron would get

621
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: to the rim and miss a lay up, or Rohndo

622
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: would get to the rim missile lay up something along

623
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: those lines. They in post up situations were able to

624
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: turn him into a jump shooter. So when it comes

625
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: to a game like this, you can try to match

626
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: he can try to match Jannice with intensity, but the

627
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: truth of the matter is is and when he's posting

628
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: up Semio Jala or he's put post thing up you know,

629
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: Jana Santana Coopo, he's gonna take fain aways. That's just

630
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: that's just what he's gonna do. And then at that

631
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: point it becomes a maker miss game, you know. And

632
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: so that that to me is you know, the defining

633
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: characteristic that separates the two of them. This is something

634
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: we talked about on a pod a few weeks back.

635
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: But Janice just has that ability to break you down

636
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: off the dribble and get into the paint anytime he wants,

637
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: and the only way you're gonna stop him is by

638
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: putting multiple bodies in the way, in which case you're

639
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: gonna have turned turned the team into a jump shooting

640
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: team in that regard. But there is a a the

641
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: defining difference between the two of them is that ability, Like, yeah,

642
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: a d against the best forward defenders in the league

643
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: is probably going to be a jump shooter in isolation situations.

644
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean he's not still deeply impactful offensively as

645
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: a guy who can screen and roll to the rim.

646
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: And screen and pop and do things as as a

647
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: floor spacer, and his value in that regard is massive.

648
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: But when you're comparing him to the very top tier

649
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: of stars, that's that one differentiating factor. So that when

650
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: people say, like, oh, Johannest took it to a D tonight,

651
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: it's like, that's kind of what it's gonna look like

652
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: because they're to me, they're totally different archetypes of players.

653
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: But I thought Anthony Davis overall was fantastic tonight, and

654
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: he was great defensively, especially in the second half. His

655
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: jumper continues to trend in the right direction. What is

656
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: this his fifteenth or sixteenth consecutive game that he's played

657
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: this season, So he's starting to get his rhythm, he's

658
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,239
Speaker 1: starting to get his legs underneath him. Obviously he got

659
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: a little banged ups and I looked like he looked

660
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: like a dead leg is what it seemed like to me.

661
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: It looked like he got need in the thigh somewhere.

662
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,959
Speaker 1: That that's what it seemed like he was favoring. Um.

663
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll learn more in the post game, but

664
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: I I I'm really really happy with the way Anthony

665
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: Davis is progressing. If you're looking at this from thirty

666
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: thousand feet in the air, you can you can look

667
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: at a couple of huge benchmarks here that should bring

668
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: some optimism. One Lebron is coming back. Two Russ is

669
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: starting to kind of figure out how he can help

670
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: this particular team. Three Anthony Davis is starting to make

671
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: jump shots again and physically looks as good as he's

672
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: ever looked. And four th h T appears to be

673
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 1: progressing to be a star. If you count all four

674
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: of those things, that's a lot of reason to get

675
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: very excited about this team ceiling. And I know that

676
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: seems crazy to say, because um and it's been largely

677
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: a disaster up to this point, but I mean weirdly,

678
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: losing on the road in Milwaukee to drop the five

679
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: you know, here in the middle of November is the

680
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: point where I feel most optimistic about this team, which

681
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm saying I did too. And I

682
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: just the last point on the Johanna's first a D

683
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: and again those comparisons to me, like I think you

684
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: honest has kind of ended those especially as a number

685
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: one option and honest just a different type of player

686
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: than a D is, but I just think the Bucks

687
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: do some things to put him in positions that like

688
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: I'd love to see the Lakers do. Like the Lakers

689
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: do a lot of this where they take half the

690
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: shot clock running like Rondo sads a cross screen or

691
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: something for a D to get a post up, and

692
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: he eventually just post up another super strong power forward

693
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: and it's like they're helping off a badly in the corner.

694
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: But like I think a D like he's not I

695
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: don't know. Janice probably is the better ball handler, I guess,

696
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: but to me, like a D has some ball handling

697
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: skills that like I'd love to see us put in use,

698
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: Like I feel like we just try to force him

699
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: to be this ISO post up big and the Bucks

700
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: to this thing where like and they scored off off

701
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: of it twice to night where Pat Contaton comes, they

702
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: do like an inverted screen or your honest is at

703
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: the top, and because you're playing off so far, they

704
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: do an inverted s feen where Counting comes and sets

705
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: his pick and so basically eight Janice gets to go

706
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: downhill or you leave Pat Counting right, either the Guards

707
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: shows on nice or Pat Conaton is open for three

708
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: and it gets Johannice going downhill, It gets him in

709
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: the rhythm in a way where it's not just throw

710
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: a post entry to you honest, where he's still good

711
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 1: at that. He can still bully players in the basket,

712
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: but be honest, gets a lot of buckets in that

713
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: way where I'd love to see a D kind of

714
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: get a little bit more ball handling duties at the

715
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: top of the key instead of just giving the ball

716
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: like at the high post, where like it's Russ or

717
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: Rondo giving him the post entry in the floor that's

718
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: already super cramped where the paint is cramped. So just

719
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: like again, I'm seeing good stuff, but I just would

720
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: like us to kind of tap into more of what

721
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: a D can do. I think I think he's still

722
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: being put in a lot of situations where it's just

723
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 1: one or two skills. It's either a step back jumper

724
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: or you know, a drive to three people. Um, so

725
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: like that those are kind of things I'd like to see.

726
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: But you're right, this good process going. It's just when

727
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: I watched the bucks and like your honest also gets

728
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: a lot of like plays where like he gets the

729
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: rebound and he just dribbles it up and he's able

730
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: to kind of feel in rhythm and like a D

731
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: you know, he gets the rebound, it's like right away,

732
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: give it to a guard, and I'm like, I feel

733
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: like he can push the ball as well. Like there's

734
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: stuff that I'd love to see us open the floor

735
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: for him because he is super skilled. I'd love for

736
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: us to kind of use those skills more than just

737
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: as opposed. Do you know what I mean by that? Like,

738
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: obviously he's not your honest, he's not a give the

739
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: ball to him every possession and run your offense through it.

740
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: But I just think like there's more that we can

741
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: tap into with a D that and again, he's his

742
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: numbers are still insane, he's still you know, he's been

743
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: carrying us for a lot of this season. I just

744
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: feel like there's more there than than we're seeing with

745
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: a D. No. So I I percent agree. And the

746
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: main reason that that what you're getting at here is

747
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: so smart is post defense is the number one area

748
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: in the NBA right now where defenders are allowed to

749
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: be physical, and so in a weird way, it kind

750
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: of is like the wrong It's just it's the wrong

751
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: era almost to four speed post players you know they're

752
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: there are handful of guys in the league who do really,

753
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: really well there. But the truth of the matter is

754
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: is like as a guy like Anthony Davis with a

755
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: really high center of gravity that's easy to knock off balance,

756
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's not the best place for him

757
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: to attack. I agree with you, like with all the

758
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: shooting that you have on this team, getting him in

759
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: the situations with a live dribble out by the three

760
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: point line, or doing a lot more of like let's

761
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: do quick pick and pops and hit him where the

762
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: defenders kind of closing out at him so that he

763
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: can just do quick rip throughs and things along those

764
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: lines to give him a little bit of an advantage.

765
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: I I really would like to see more of that.

766
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: He's never going to be able to consistently break a

767
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: team down the dribble from the perimeter because his like

768
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: side to side quickness is not as good as a

769
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: guy like Janice Right, So like Joannice can do these

770
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: like rip throughs and jab steps and crossovers where he

771
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: covers a lot of ground really fast and no one

772
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 1: can really stay in front of him on the perimeter.

773
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis is a little bit more of like a uh.

774
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: You know, what makes him such a versatile big is

775
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: more his finesse in his length than it is his

776
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: speed and quickness. You know, that's not necessarily his strong point,

777
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like like Joannice literally moves

778
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: like a guard. That's the huge difference there and what

779
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: allows him to consistently attack off the dribble. But that

780
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he can't do it more of it, and

781
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: especially in specific matchups to your point, when you like,

782
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: I would love to see more Anthony Davis attacking off

783
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: the dribble against a team like Denver, you know, where

784
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: it's like he's going to be going against your kits

785
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: where he does have a footspeed advantage. You know, even

786
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: against Robert Williams on Friday Night, that'd be another interesting

787
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: matchup to see him do a little bit more off

788
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: the dr But I'm with you, just like force feeding

789
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis post ups. Uh, there was a stat that

790
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: I saw the other day that his postops and in

791
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: a in a fadeaway jump shot like that. That that's

792
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: that that's just the and that I'm not even sure

793
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: how they factor that in whether or not those count

794
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: past attempts or shots towards the rim. I'm not sure

795
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: what the exact map was there, but the point is is,

796
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: like Anthony Davis post ups shouldn't be his only isolation attack.

797
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: They should find varying ways to get him involved in

798
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: that regard. Yeah, and like even the screen of roll actions,

799
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: like to me, the rondo a D screen of roll

800
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: has become almost pointless sometimes, like because the defender is

801
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: so off, A D gets zero contact on the screen,

802
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: like I'd like him to be more being like just

803
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: how the Bucks used honest like as him as a

804
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: screener so much like I would like to him to

805
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: kind of play more with Leek Monk as a screen

806
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: and screening roll big, Like I know this competent, right,

807
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: and I'm not comparing the two players at all. It

808
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: just feels like we're fitting a D be like Dirk,

809
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like we're running actions as

810
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: if he's Dirk and he's not the shooter Dirk is.

811
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,959
Speaker 1: And also he's not like he's a much quicker player

812
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: than Dirk, and he has like more off the dribble

813
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: game to me, And You're right, a D doesn't have

814
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: like the strong one move that Janice can do left

815
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: to right crossover. But to me, like his handle is strong,

816
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: like he has the you know, he does all these

817
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 1: like in and out dribble, in and out crossovers on biggs.

818
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: But I would just like to see more of that.

819
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: I just don't see it enough to me, And and

820
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: the screens as well. I don't know if it's on

821
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 1: a D or if it's the guard, but just there's

822
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: no contact on him, so like the guards are fighting

823
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: over and there's just no space traded. And like you

824
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: see th ht Rondo Russ throw lobs into traffic basically

825
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: right because no one has helped. You haven't caused anywhere,

826
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: you haven't caused any help, so either just throwing a

827
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: lab up and having a D play jump ball with

828
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: like nice or whever the big is. So yeah, like

829
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: I think a D is more skilled than we're seeing,

830
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: I guess, And I just I don't know, again that's

831
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: some on a D as well, just his aggression or

832
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,479
Speaker 1: lack there of it. But I just want to see

833
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: him more in ball handling situations where it's not just

834
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, him with the back to his back when

835
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: the with his back to the basket trying to make

836
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: decisions because you could tell that's not where he's comfortable,

837
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: Like like you saw him trying to read where the

838
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: traps are going and it's like a second laye that

839
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: it needs to be something on most times, and like

840
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: that's just not where he's comfortable at. So I'd love

841
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: to see just a little bit more of like ball

842
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: handling responsibilities for him as a as an attacker. So

843
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: to kind of put a bowl on tonight. Um with

844
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: Lebron coming back on Friday, how do you see, like

845
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: what what kind of rotation changes do you expect? Who

846
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: do you expect to fall out of the rotation? What

847
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: do you expect the starting lineup to look like? How

848
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 1: do you expect the flow of the game to go. Yeah,

849
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: there are a lot of questions, but I'll start, I'll

850
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 1: I'll definitely start with the starting lineup. So I don't

851
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: think THHD is going anywhere, Like I just can't see

852
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: them taking him out of the starting lineup. He's shooting

853
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: too well to me as well from three, So I

854
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: definitely think it would be Russ probably th HD, ron

855
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: A D and then I'm not really sure on the

856
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: fourth spot. To be honest, I hope I'm guessing it's

857
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: Wayne Ellington. They're going to continue with a D at

858
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: the five. But like to me, like there's no reason

859
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: for Rondo to play right now, Like, I just don't

860
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: think you need to. I don't think DeAndre Jordan needs

861
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: to play either, And honestly, Baysmore, we'll see. I thought

862
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: it was another rough night for him. He played hard,

863
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: but he's probably out of the rotation as well. So

864
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: I just want to I just want to see them

865
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: stagger like Russ and Braun and maybe even th HD

866
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: in there, because like that's probably give them their best

867
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: chance to win. And obviously Lebron solves a lot of

868
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: these issues. Lebron is not only the power forward, he's

869
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: also the backup point guard, which also helps a lot

870
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: of those line ups. But how about you, man, I

871
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: like that's how I see the starting lineup going. I

872
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: know that I feel like THD is gonna stand there

873
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: next to Russ Brown and a D and then that

874
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: fourth guy I think probably Wayne Ellington or Avery Bradley,

875
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: one of those two Vogo. I still want to just

876
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: go badly for defense, But how do you see that?

877
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: As then t HD has to start, he's too he's

878
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: too good, like I mean, like I he's looked so

879
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: good in these last two games that it literally doesn't

880
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: make sense to bring him off the bench. Now, you

881
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: you might think, oh, traditional sixth man role, which is

882
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: where my brain usually goes, because you've got, uh, you know,

883
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: redundancies in the starting lineup when you got that many

884
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: drivel drive guys. But you know, generically or like historically

885
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: in the NBA, the sixth man type of off the

886
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: bench scoring archetype. Your Lou Williams, your Jerry Stackhouse, your

887
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: Jamal Crawford, that type of guy. They're almost always bad

888
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: defensive players. And the dirty little secret to why they

889
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: come off the bench is because they're bad defensive players

890
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: like that. That's that's usually the rationale behind that kind

891
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: of decision. T HD has been one of the best

892
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: defenders on the team so far in the two games

893
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: that he's played. Obviously, don't want to give too much

894
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: credit in that regard, but anyway, point being like you

895
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: have you have to start t HD. So you look

896
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: at the if you look at the flow of the

897
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: game and the way that they usually subs to the

898
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: stars because of the way that Anthony Davis likes to

899
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: play full quarters, and because of the fact that Russ

900
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: likes to take quick short rests instead of longer drawn

901
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: out rests, what ends up happening is Lebron Russ comes out,

902
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: you know, like quick, like usually first. This year they're

903
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: pushing Lebron sub a little bit later. He comes out

904
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: like to like three quarters of the way through the

905
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: first quarter. So it goes. It goes from like the

906
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: starters to like a Lebron a D group to like

907
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: an a D Russ group, and then a D and

908
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: Rust both come out and it turns into like a

909
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: Lebron with the bench guys group, and then Russ comes

910
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: back in quick and it turns into like a Lebron

911
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: Russ group, and then Lebron comes out. It goes to

912
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: Lebron a D so you can kind of see how

913
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: and then Russ comes back in and it's the starter,

914
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: so you can kind of see how the staggering works.

915
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: There to be two stars on the floor for the

916
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: most part with Lebron as that extra guy. But now

917
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: with th Ht thrown into that mix, you're gonna have

918
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: like a high level dribble creator on both wings at

919
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: all times, which is a super exciting prospect for you

920
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: know what this team is supposed to be. This is

921
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: something that the guys on at LFR have been preaching

922
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: and it's something that I'm a big believer in. It's

923
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: kind of this I've been talking a lot about modern

924
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: basketball with the l a Clippers, right from the playoffs

925
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: last year. This idea like we're just gonna spread you out,

926
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: and it's all this trible drive attack penetration, getting you

927
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: into rotation and then swinging the ball around the shooters right. Well,

928
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: in order for that to work, you've got to have

929
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: multiple guys that can break down the defense off the

930
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: dribble at the point of attack, either through prick and

931
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: roll or literally just beating a guy off the dribble

932
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: from the perimeter. Well, having this many guys the way

933
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: the Lakers have, it's starting to trend in that direction.

934
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: They need to go away from postops. We talked a

935
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 1: little bit about this earlier, instead of going really heavy

936
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis postops, really heavy Lebron postops, which by the way,

937
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: you can still do in specific matchups and specific situations

938
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: as a wrinkle to throw in there. But I'd like

939
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: to see just a lot more get four guys out,

940
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: have either a D or Dwight set of high screen

941
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: and roll, or even go five out sometimes when a

942
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: D s on the floor and just let th Ht,

943
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook and Lebron James beat guys off the dribble

944
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 1: and just start getting the team into rotation because it's

945
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: always going to be shooters around them. Now, that's what's

946
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: so exciting about this formula is we have real bona

947
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: fide knockdown three point shooters, although tonight they didn't show that,

948
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: but the point being like that, this formula is starting

949
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: to look a lot less like the where we're you know,

950
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: Championship Lakers that were like a literally almost like a

951
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: nineties team that just was trying to pulverize you with

952
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: size and physicality too. Now we're doing this modern basketball space,

953
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: the floor drive and kick offense that that makes a

954
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: whole lot of sense and still have the physicality that

955
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: comes from having Lebron and a d oh and guess

956
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: what are other two dribble drive guards? Rust and and

957
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: th HT are like physical specimens at the position sh

958
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: and that are gonna have a whole other side of

959
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, physical impact on the opponent. Just in their

960
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,959
Speaker 1: own right, you know. So I I I'm really really

961
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: excited to see everybody fall into the roles here. I

962
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: think we'll see a lot less phase more. I don't think.

963
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 1: I don't think you'll see DeAndre Jordan at all, except

964
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: when Dwight Howard is resting like you did in the

965
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: second half tonight. I think a reason complicates things even further.

966
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: But I would not be surprised if it turn if

967
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: Bradley falls entirely out, bays More falls entirely out, and

968
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: they just play the shooters and it turns basically into

969
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: Dwight A d lebron th HD Russ and then Ellington

970
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: Monk Mellow, you know what I mean, And and maybe

971
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: some a reason in there when he gets going. But

972
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: it just with the with the physical imposing nature of

973
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: those for those core four players, you can get away

974
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: with playing less physical shooters around them. And so I

975
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of the way I see it going. Yeah,

976
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: And that's why I was like, even tonight, I really

977
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: wanted them to just put a shooter in where you

978
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: Bradley is. And I understand Vogels, you know, love for

979
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: Avery Bradley. It makes sense even going small. It's just

980
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: like oh to his past team, right, every Bradley represents

981
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 1: like a defensive minded first player who can't space the floor,

982
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: but teams just don't guard him in a way. Like

983
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: even Wayne Ellington, I who was one for seven, Like

984
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 1: they still guard him like he has a certain level

985
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: of gravity that I think is important. And I think

986
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: that's important on Friday as well in Boston, Like, I

987
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: just think you can't have a non shooter in that space,

988
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: even with the shooting that th HD has shown. You

989
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: start Russ Braun in a d like teams are going

990
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: to pack the paint and then you add th HT

991
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: into that as special as he's been, Like, the paint

992
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: is gonna be packed, and I just need at least

993
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: one shooter in that spot. Whether it's Monk, but I'm

994
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: hoping it's Ellington. I think Ellington just has one of

995
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: a mature game right now. Monk is more of like

996
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: a hot and cold scorer type. And again Ellington and

997
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: shoot well tonight. He just understands how to get open,

998
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: how to relocate right when he throws a pass and

999
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: his man helps off him. He understands how to get

1000
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: into like the correct, correct passing angle, and I just

1001
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: hope that he kind of starts, but I wouldn't be

1002
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: surprised if we going with Bradley again just to kind

1003
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: of keep keep that defensive minded first player in there.

1004
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: But that's why I hope happens. I hope probably start

1005
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: why allence and go all into this, you know, a

1006
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: d at the five, Brown at the four, just rust ball. Um.

1007
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: That's what I hope happens on Friday. Man. But I

1008
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: think this team is kind of progressing. Like I think

1009
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: you just remove the Rondo minutes and uh and the

1010
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan minutes, but the Rondo minutes especially, just to

1011
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: remove that from the rotation right now, it's just a

1012
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: big boost in and of itself. And then obviously getting

1013
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: Lebron back, um, and you know this is this is

1014
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: a big road trip to me, Like, like I understand

1015
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: Brons just coming back, but I think, like you gotta

1016
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 1: win some of these games going up here after Boston.

1017
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: I think it gets a little lighter. I think goes

1018
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: like Indiana, Detroit or something like that. But it's a

1019
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: big road trip. Man. They're a and eight right now.

1020
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: Like you get Lebron back now, Like I think this

1021
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: is the time to kind of go on go on

1022
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: a run here. I think so too. I think it

1023
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: starts tomorrow Friday against Boston. I think the Lakers are

1024
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: going to go on a run here. Um, We'll see

1025
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 1: a lot of things. Gotta go right, guys, gotta stay healthy. Um.

1026
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: But this suddenly, with pht back and looking the way

1027
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: he looks, and Lebron coming back, this suddenly becomes a

1028
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: team that's gonna have a demonstrable talent advantage every single night,

1029
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: like a big, big talent advantage. And when you couple

1030
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: that with the urgency associated with a record, and the

1031
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: fact that they have some ground to make up in

1032
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: the standings, and the fact that these guys got to

1033
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: be sick of losing. Um, I think I think we're

1034
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 1: gonna see a really solid stretch here of really good

1035
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: Laker basketball. And it sure would be great for them

1036
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: to beat the hell out of Brooklyn on Christmas Day

1037
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: to cap something like the stop that that would be.

1038
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: That would be kind of like the target for a

1039
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: date that you'd like for them to kind of start

1040
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: to hit a real real ceiling in that regard. But

1041
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm I am really excited to really quickly a note

1042
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: on Bradley both complained about Avery Bradley in recent days,

1043
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: and again I'm not I'm not a huge fan of

1044
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: the some of the things that he does when he's

1045
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: on the court. Like, I think he's way too much

1046
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: of a gunner for what their guys actually need out

1047
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: of that position. Um, the dude has never seen a

1048
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: shot he doesn't like. Uh, in his way too aggressive

1049
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: as a jump shooter early in the clock, and that

1050
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: can get irritating. Um. However, when you look at what

1051
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: he does in Frank's system, he's a predictable defensive option.

1052
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: You know. The mistakes he makes are mistakes that play

1053
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: into their scheme. The his ball pressure, in his ability

1054
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: to fight over screens is like absolutely necessary for the

1055
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: pick and roll coverages. So, like, would I prefer for

1056
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 1: Ellington to be in the starters, Yes, to be clear,

1057
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: I would go with Ellington. I think the spacing is

1058
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: better with him, and he's enough of a you know,

1059
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: a fundamentally sound positional defender that it works. However, it

1060
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: is also exciting to think about the ball pressure of

1061
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: that group with with Avery Bradley, right, I mean it's

1062
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: exciting to think about, like, hey, guess what you're you're playing,

1063
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, you're going into to Boston and it's Marcus Smart,

1064
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: Jayson Tatum and all these guys. It's like, guess what

1065
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna have th HD, Avery Bradley and Russell Westbrook

1066
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: Ball pressuring the living hell out of you from the

1067
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: opening tip like that that that's an exciting prospect in

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Speaker 1: its own regard. My point is is, like I saw

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Speaker 1: a couple of people compare him today to DeAndre Jordan's

1070
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,479
Speaker 1: like the new DeAndre Jordan, meaning like the new guy

1071
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: that makes no sense in the lineup book. I think

1072
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: he's gonna fall out of the rotation I would start Allington's.

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00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 1: So I'm not disagreeing with like some of the rationale there,

1074
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,959
Speaker 1: but he's a hell of a lot better option than

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00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: what could be, you know what I mean. Like it's

1076
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: he's not that bad in that position. No, Yeah, And

1077
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: I was a big fan of every badly you know,

1078
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: two years ago, I was hoping they resigned him. I

1079
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: wish he went to the bubble. He did not out

1080
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: of his own decisions. He's a player that like kind

1081
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: of fits what Vogel wants to do. And this is

1082
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: not against Avery Bradley, is just a function of the team.

1083
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: To me, it's just that you can't have a non

1084
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: shooter in that space Bradley can shoot. That's a difference

1085
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: between there's a difference between a guy who can't shoot

1086
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: in an app lute shooter, right like when Hilton is

1087
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: a shooter, they have to respect and I just don't

1088
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 1: like the floor balance on that. Every Bradley plays hard,

1089
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: I think defensively, Like he plays hard. He's too small

1090
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: sometimes in a lot of matchups, like that's his biggest

1091
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: scribe to me, his his height, Like you just can't

1092
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: match up. Sometimes he plays hard, he defends, he's a

1093
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: good point of attack defender, Like there's no there's no

1094
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: qualmy about that. But I'm just like saying, like, you

1095
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: just can't play a nonshooter to me, with these a

1096
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: d at the five line ups that we're trying to

1097
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: run out here, there's just no space, especially when a

1098
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: lot of the offense is posted up heavy. They're helping

1099
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: off the same guy every time. Like to me, the

1100
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: game changed to me in that third quarter when you

1101
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: when Avery Bradley came out and they put in I

1102
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: believe Wayne Allington, and then he never came back in

1103
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: the game. They kept Monk on there and the floor,

1104
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: the floor balance of the spacing just looks so much better.

1105
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: A d was able to get going a little bit.

1106
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: T HD got some driving lines open, Russ got some

1107
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: driving lines open. I think that's really important right now,

1108
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: and we'll see when the Bron comes back all that

1109
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: kind of changes. But yeah, nothing against Avery Bradley, Like

1110
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: I don't think he's DeAndre Jordan's level of of of

1111
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: effort or you know, or his impact on the game.

1112
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: It's just to me, it's a function of the roster

1113
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: right now. It's just I you can't play a non

1114
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: shooter in that lineup with just how our offense is running.

1115
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: But I mean that's different with Lebron out there. Like

1116
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: maybe you can play every badly if Lebron's out there,

1117
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: But to me, I'd rather just put a shooter in

1118
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: that spot. And I think Ballington has been defending well enough,

1119
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: Like like he's not great, he's not going to be

1120
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 1: a plus defender, but like I think he's trying hard

1121
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: and he fights, so I think that's all you can

1122
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: really ask him. Yeah, I'm with you. I think we're

1123
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: on the same page here. Like he's definitely not the

1124
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: best option. All I'm saying is like this, the rationale

1125
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: behind playing every badly makes more sense from the coaching

1126
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: staff than the DeAndre Jordan thing did. This is all

1127
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But anyway, so that's all I had for tonight. Obviously, Rogers,

1128
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: there's anything else in your notes you wanted to hit? Obviously,

1129
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: with an East coast road trip like this, I'm gonna

1130
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: take advantage of it to try to end the night

1131
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: a tiny bit early, to try to spend some time

1132
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: with my wife for what. But did you have any

1133
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: and you also wanted to hit tonight? The last thing

1134
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 1: in my notes was like you could tell the difference

1135
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: in chemistry been the Bucks and the Lakers, Right, Like,

1136
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty clear. I thought the Bucks

1137
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: knew exactly what they wanted to do, laid down the

1138
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: stretch of that game, it was straight up Milton, the

1139
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: honest picked and roll. They knew exactly where to be,

1140
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: and I just wrote down like that's where I hope

1141
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: the Lakers kind of get to this season where they

1142
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: know what they're doing. Late in the game, you could

1143
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: tell they were kind of experimenting with that. And then

1144
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: the last thing I think shout out UH pick up

1145
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: hoop who tweeted out th HT in three games this year,

1146
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: twenty three points, seven rebounds to assist UH six two

1147
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: percent true shooting, Like that's kind of insane. Third game back,

1148
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: twenty year old. So those numbers probably won't stay where

1149
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: they are at um his you should will probably go

1150
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: down with the brown going back. But I think that's

1151
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: been the kind of theme the last few games here

1152
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: is th HD is the real deal. So that's why

1153
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,479
Speaker 1: I wanted to kind of close out with here. Yeah,

1154
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: he can be what because I don't think Russ is

1155
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: long for the Lakers if this doesn't go well, like

1156
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 1: obviously if they win the title, then you know they'll

1157
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: keep him and this will all go well. But you know,

1158
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: the reality is is that that that that fit of

1159
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: having like the super high end playmaker i Q guy

1160
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: like Lebron with the big that needs someone to set

1161
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 1: him up like Anthony David that can create his own

1162
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 1: shot and apply a ton of rim pressure and also defend.

1163
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: That all makes a ton of sense. And so th

1164
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 1: h T can slot right into that in the post

1165
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: Russ era, you know what I mean, especially if he

1166
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: continues to progress at this right. I cannot. I'm so

1167
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: impressed by how fast he's come along again, only three games,

1168
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: but I've been really impressed. All right, guys, thank you

1169
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: guys so much for coming to hang out tonight with

1170
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: Roger and I. I'm glad that we were finally able

1171
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: even after a loss, to hit on some good positivity

1172
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: with this group. Um. This is going to arrow dash

1173
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: right out tomorrow morning at seven am Pacific Standard time

1174
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: and will be in our podcast feed hearing about fifteen minutes.

1175
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: As always, we sincerely appreciate your guys a support and

1176
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 1: you come and hang out with us up to these games,

1177
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: and we will see you for another early show on

1178
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: Friday night. If you're not out party and having a

1179
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: good time, you can come hang out with Roger and

1180
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: I talk some basketball. Appreciate it. Thanks everyone,