1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Ron Anian, and you know, is it in park? You 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: have to be sure it's in park. And you know, 3 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: I started talking to some higher ups at different car 4 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: companies about this and they say, well, yeah, but the 5 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: warning on the dashboard says make sure a vehicle is 6 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: in park. Yet I think people are paying attention to that. 7 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: You're counting on that to tell people what to do. 8 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: No way, don't fee. 9 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: Where you. 10 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: Don't sell. 11 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: You know. 12 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: Ragg Shine like John and Lvin. You know that car doctor. 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: If you have low voltage going into the relay, all right, 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: so instead of just replacing it, let's test. Let's see 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: how the circuit works. If we've got low voltage going 16 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: into the relay, we could have a we could have 17 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: a bed or corrodied ignition switch. 18 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Ananian, the Car 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: Doctor since nineteen ninety one. 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Ron, Welcome to the car doctor, sir, what's 50 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: going on? 51 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 4: Yes, thank you. I have bought a twenty fifteen Jaguar 52 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 4: from It came from Georgia, very clean car and it 53 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 4: had a growl when it started. And about two weeks 54 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 4: after I got the car, the engine check engine like 55 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 4: com on. So I checked with different people and they said, 56 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 4: you know better, I have a checked out. So I 57 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 4: found a representative in my area that works on Jaguar. 58 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 4: Very good person. 59 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: Okay. 60 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 4: So I took it there and they replaced a timing 61 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 4: chain all that. They said, the code come up, cam 62 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 4: sensor okay, okay, So he replaced everything in it. Now 63 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 4: it runs like a kitten. 64 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: But but there's always a butt. 65 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 66 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 4: When I start out with it, it box some on 67 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 4: low speed. Once I get it up, the RPM's up 68 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 4: a little bit and running it runs really smooth. For 69 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 4: a cruise control, it runs really smooth. So I looked 70 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 4: on the internet and they said maybe it's dirty injectors. 71 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 4: He told me he changed but new spark plugs in 72 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 4: it and they were really carboned up and dark. But 73 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 4: he said that could come from the bad timing change sensor, 74 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 4: a phaser or whatever it is. Okay, so he said, 75 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 4: run some I ran two bottles of concentrate sea foam 76 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: concentrate through one gas tank load, then another gas tank, 77 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 4: and it seemed to be running smoother. I checked the 78 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 4: exhaust pipe and I got black soot in it. 79 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: All right, so did he Let's back up a second. 80 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: It had a noise. It set a fault code for 81 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: a cam sensor. Yeah, all right, your your mechanic looked 82 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: at it, and we're going to say that he's competent. 83 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: We're not disparaging any no, no bad comments, we're not. 84 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't there. That's not what the purpose 85 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: of my question or comments is. But you know, he said, yeah, 86 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: it needs a timing chain. He put you know, a 87 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: chain in, and he put it back together right now, 88 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: the lights out. There's no more fault codes, no more. 89 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 4: Fault code, he said. The only fault code he could 90 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 4: find in the computer was one two fault codes the 91 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 4: one I seen, and I had it. My son in 92 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 4: law come down. He reset everything back to factory setting 93 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 4: with his he's a mechanic, but he said he doesn't 94 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 4: work on Jaguar. So he said everything back factory set. 95 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 4: And it went for another week or two and then 96 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 4: the check engine like come on again. 97 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: Okay, and what's all right? And what fault code is that? 98 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 4: The same one which was cam timing sensor all right? 99 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: And what did the mechanic that did the timing chain 100 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: work say about that? 101 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 4: Well? He uh, he said that could have come from 102 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 4: the the phaser. He said the phaser was shot. 103 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: Okay, but he put a new phaser in it, right. 104 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 4: The whole kit right, both everything, everything in the front 105 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 4: he put in brand new. The car looks like and 106 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 4: never been touched, all right, clean. So there's no lights 107 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 4: on at all. 108 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: Well, you just said, you just said the check engine 109 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: lights on. 110 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: No, not now it came on again after after my 111 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 4: son in law cleared it right with his scan tool. 112 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 4: He put it back to factory set, and he said, 113 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 4: if it comes on again, you're gonna have to take 114 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 4: it to deal, you know, to rip. So that's when 115 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 4: I did it. 116 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,119 Speaker 5: Oh oh okay, so so so you So your sudden 117 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,679 Speaker 5: law came down, cleared the code, the light came back, 118 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 5: and that's when you took it to the to the 119 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 5: person and they put a timing chain set in it. 120 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole the whole kit. Yeah. 121 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: Okay, So since he's worked on it, it doesn't set 122 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: a fault code none. All right. Have you have you 123 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: taken it back to him for the way that it runs? 124 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 4: No, I haven't yet. He told me to run the 125 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 4: run it if the spark plugs were really dirty. He 126 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 4: put new iridium plugs in it. I guess, okay, he said, 127 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 4: And he said, run some cleaner through it and see 128 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 4: what happens. All right, Well, I've run two bottles of that, 129 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 4: you know, the sea foam concentrate. Right, I've run two bottles, 130 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 4: two tankfuls through almost a thousand miles since it's been 131 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 4: in the garage. I'm still getting the soot in the 132 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 4: exhaust pipe. I use a Q tip to check it. 133 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I don't know that, you know, John, I don't, 134 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: I don't, Iron, I'm sorry, I don't know that. That's 135 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: I don't know that. I'm going to take that as 136 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: a valid barometer for the car still broken. You know, 137 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: if it was running bad for a long period of time, 138 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: it takes a long time to clean out exhaust. And 139 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: I've never used that as an indicator of whether or 140 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: not the vehicle's rich or lean. And and why would I. 141 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: You're basically trying to check your heart rate and blood 142 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: pressure by by you know, the thumb over your over 143 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: your wrist, trying to count. And I'm not saying you 144 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: can't do that, but it sure seems like the long 145 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: way to go about it when all you have to 146 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: do is plug in a tool and look at numbers. 147 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not saying it's I'm not saying 148 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: that that makes it so easy, but it's a lot 149 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: more precise if you know what I'm saying. You know, listen, 150 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care if it's a Jaguar, 151 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: a Ford, a GM, a Chrysler, a Toyota, a Honda. 152 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: An engine's an engine, it's a big air pump. I'm 153 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna run it through some basics, all right. 154 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: You know, when I get into a situation like this 155 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: where an engine had mechanical work done and and it 156 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: runs different, can we Is that a true statement? Right? 157 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: It runs different than it did before he took it 158 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: apart in that with the old timing change set up 159 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: it was noisy, but it ran okay, is that true? 160 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: It didn't have a lot of It didn't seem like 161 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 4: it had a lot of power. With a turbo, it 162 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 4: should add more bout Now it's snappy, okay, it's really snappy, 163 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 4: and it runs smooth. Just when I take off a box. 164 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: A little bit, all right, it bucks. 165 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 4: Back and forth, all right, so until I get going 166 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 4: good and then it runs smooth. 167 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: All right. So we've got to eliminate the possibilities. We're 168 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: gonna have to take its heart rate and blood pressure, 169 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: but we're gonna have to be very precise. One of 170 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: the things, one of the things I would like to 171 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: do is verify mechanical integrity of the engine. We can 172 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: do that fairly easy. It's a test called it's a 173 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: test called volumetric efficiency. It involves a scan tool and 174 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: some math, but at least it will tell us as 175 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: the engine breathing properly. Now this is a supercharged engine, 176 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: so the math changes a little bit. What I would 177 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: tell you if your mechanic wants to is tell them 178 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: to get out to the Automotive Training group atg dot Com. 179 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: Leave it is and the test will be there that 180 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: he can print it out and follow it and they 181 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: talk about how to calculate biometric efficiency. How well does 182 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: this engine breathe? The other thing I want to look 183 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: at is this has a mass airflow censor? This this 184 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: car should have a map on it. This is a 185 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: three liter engine? Correct? This is the three leader V 186 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: six No? 187 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 4: No, no, it's a two zero. 188 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: Okay, this is a two zero. There's the four cylinder. 189 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: So what's mass airflow grams per second at idle? One 190 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: way to measure we should If it's a two liter engine, 191 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: we're typically going to see somewhere between two two and 192 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: a half grams per second at idle. If we see 193 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: a lot less or a lot more by percentage, maybe 194 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: we've got a breathing problem. If we fail ve, maybe 195 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: we've got a breathing problem. All right, and then last 196 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: thing I want to last thing I want to look 197 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: at is where's fuel trim? John? Iron, I keep calling 198 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: you John. I'm sorry, you know it sounds like you've 199 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: been driving a while, right, This isn't your first car? 200 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: Is it in your first rodeo? 201 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 4: I can tell was I had big motors. I've always 202 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 4: had big motors. 203 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: But I can take you back to the days of carburetors, right, 204 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: what you had a right? Okay? So so what you're 205 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: describing to me sounds like an accelerator pump with a 206 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: dead spot. Is that a fair way to say it? 207 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, a dead spot and a carburetor. That's why 208 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,599 Speaker 4: it works right, and your flutter or step on it 209 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 4: and it'll go and it'll be right. 210 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: Right. It sounds like you've got a lean spot. So 211 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is lean. I'm not saying this 212 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: is a fuel problem. I just have to start to 213 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: eliminate the possibilities. So I've got to start to attack 214 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: it from that perspective, all right. 215 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 4: Yes, just have the means. The repair means nothing to me, right. 216 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 4: I was thought maybe it was a transmission going bad. 217 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: It could be that was gonna be my last comment. 218 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: Do we have a problem in the trans Has anybody 219 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: checked fluid condition, quality? Color? 220 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 4: No? I'm going to do is I want him to 221 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 4: After I got it running, you know good, I'm going 222 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 4: to take it back in. I want the rearin changed, 223 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 4: the fluid change, I want the transmission flushed and changed right, 224 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 4: and then we'll have him do the rest. The timing 225 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 4: chain kit, the whole kit. Would labor come to twenty 226 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 4: one hundred dollars. 227 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: Right, that's cheap. I gotta tell you cheap. It's a 228 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: twenty hour job. By the book. Oh, I'm sorry. This 229 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: is the this is the four cylinder. The V six 230 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: is twenty hours, the V six is three days, so. 231 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 4: It you know, for five hours. 232 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,359 Speaker 1: The other thing he could do as part of diagnosis, 233 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: and I don't want to overstep and overreach, but one 234 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: of the things I would do in a situation like this, 235 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: after I gather my data and I go through my tests, 236 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: is too if there is a transmission shift adaptive reset. 237 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: In other words, you know, the engine work was done, 238 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: did the transmission learn bad habits right? And does it 239 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: need to be retrained or at the very least, does 240 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: resetting transadaptives cause a change in the way the transmission 241 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: in the vehicle operates. If it does, then yeah, your 242 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 1: problem is an engine. It's more transmission capechea. 243 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 4: But once it, once it gets going low, it shifts smooth, 244 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 4: nice riding driving. 245 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I get it. But listen, you know that's 246 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: like that's like that's like, you know, when we get 247 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: up in the morning, it's hard for us to maneuver 248 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: the stairs. But once we get going, by midday, we're 249 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: rolling along. Thanks. Yeah, things things change once we start moving. 250 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: Inertia takes over. 251 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 4: So do you think do you think all this diagnostic 252 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 4: and everything is an expensive deal? Or is it just labor? 253 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: Mostly it's mostly labor, and I don't think. I don't 254 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: think any diagnosis, if it's done correctly and leads to 255 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: a good conclusion, is expensive. I think it's all important. 256 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, I just want to run. I have other car. 257 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 4: I have a Corvette too, and the Jaguar and I 258 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 4: have a Ford Fusion. Probably has the same motor, and 259 00:12:58,440 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 4: it's this Jaguar. 260 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: Does, Yeah, probably does, probably does. But do that John, 261 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: talk to him and then by all means, give us 262 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: a call back. Let us know how it turns out, 263 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: because I'm sure everybody's curious, and it's always fun to 264 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: hear from you, John. I keep calling you, John ron 265 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: from Pennsylvania. My apologies again. I'm run in New Jersey. 266 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: I'm Ronning eighty and the guard doctor. I'll be back 267 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: right after this. 268 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 3: I'm gone. 269 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: Good time. Write it on the wall so you don't 270 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: forget to call for car. Device done right? Eight five five, five, 271 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero. Now back to Ron. Hey, 272 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: Father's Day is coming up. Well, first Mother's Day obviously 273 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: is this weekend, but Father's Day is coming up, and 274 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: it's time for our annual book giveaway. So I think 275 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: towards the end of this month and maybe early June, 276 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: we'll have to give away some books. I've been building 277 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: them up in the in the gift closet. I've had 278 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: to keep away from Tom because he got his fingerprints 279 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: all over him the last time we did this. But 280 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,599 Speaker 1: I've got a press release in front of me for 281 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: my buddy Steve roth Over at quarter Quarto dot com 282 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: q U a r t o Quarto dot com. The 283 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: Complete Book of Dodge and Plymouth muscle Cars, every model 284 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: from nineteen sixty to today, written by Mike Muller and 285 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: Tom Glatch. This is due out June eighteenth of this year. 286 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: As matter of fact, this book and I've got I've 287 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: got my editorial copy right in front of me, so 288 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna be I have to give that away once 289 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: I go through it, and a couple of comments I 290 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: want to make about it. But we're also going to 291 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: be interviewing with some of these people some of these 292 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: gentlemen have also got the Complete Book of the Ford 293 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: Bronco here in the studio somewhere. I've put it on 294 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: the side. We're going to be doing some We're gonna 295 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: doing some book giveaways. I think it's uh, I think 296 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: it's time. So if you're looking for that great gift 297 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: for for dad or mom, if mom was the dad, whatever, 298 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, that's a that's a good idea. These books 299 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: are always a big hit. So we look forward to 300 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: doing that this year again. Complete Book of the Ford Bronco. Yeah, 301 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: you knew this was going to come up long as 302 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: the chapter about oj Uh, it's it's it's very short 303 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: because because it's it's not actually I don't think it's 304 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: in the book because he didn't do it. He never 305 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: really went for the ride, just like the crime. Uh, 306 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: there's a joke in there somewhere, Tom, just it's a 307 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: bad joke. So like my wife says, you know, every 308 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: time I say it to my wife, I make a joke, 309 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: I say little jokes. She goes, you're right, So I 310 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: don't understand that. What is she trying to tell me? 311 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: I want to talk about driving a car for monitors, 312 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, we talk about monitors. What is a monitor? 313 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: You know? 314 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: I guess I could sum it up like this. We 315 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: had a customer call the shop this week. Can he 316 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: can we put a battery in his wife's Mustang? No, No, 317 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: that wasn't the question. I'm sorry. The question was can 318 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: I do a state inspection today? 319 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: Sure? 320 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: He said, okay, let me go outside and jump start 321 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: it and I'll bring it down. Well, wait a minute. 322 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: You know the car had been sitting all winter. It's 323 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: a it's an O three Mustang convertible, and they don't 324 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: drive it in the winter. It sits. It's a it's 325 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: a summer car. And I had to explain to my said, 326 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, if the battery is dead now, the monitors 327 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: or the self tests haven't run. And then we had 328 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: to have a conversation about what's a monitor. In most states, 329 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: the way they do state inspection, you know, everybody says, oh, 330 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: they just plug into that little thing under the dashboard, right, 331 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: that's the diagnostic connector. And what they're doing is they're 332 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: looking at the monitors or the self tests. Take your 333 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: worst subject in high school or college, you know, what 334 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: was it all? Right? What did you struggle with? You know? 335 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: Maybe it was math, all right. Of course, the gentleman 336 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: I was speaking with was a PhD. So his was Latin, 337 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: which you know, figures there's a joke in there somewhere too, 338 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: and you pass. I'm sorry. You complete every test in 339 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: your subject. So you complete every test in math or 340 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: Latin or science, but you don't pass every test, all right, 341 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: there's a difference. You complete it, but you don't pass it. 342 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: The ones you you pass no check engine light, the 343 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: ones that fail check engine light and a fault code. 344 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: So in the case of this Chrysler, we'll go back 345 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: to the Mustang. In the case of the Mustang, it 346 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: took me an hour and a half because I could 347 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: not get the catalytic converter or the oxygen sensor monitors 348 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: to run. The car was just completely baffled and it 349 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: just did not want to cooperate, and it took quite 350 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: a bit of you know, shut it off, cool down, 351 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: start it up, drive it, you know, to get it 352 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: to go to finally get it ready for inspection. Well 353 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: inspection and running a vehicle four monitors is becoming part 354 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: of the repair process. It's actually not becoming. It is 355 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: part of the repair process. It's something you have to 356 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: go through as a mechanic in order to get the 357 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: car ready for the state. Now, some shops will say 358 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: just drive the car. The problem with that is you 359 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: don't know when the monitors run because you won't see 360 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: anything change on the dashboard as the customer, and then 361 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: you're driving around an uninspected vehicle. In some cases, in 362 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 1: the case of this Mustang, it was three months over do. 363 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: So that's not always a good way to go. Either 364 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: you want to try and get it done same day 365 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 1: or get it done before it leaves the mechanic so 366 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: that you're not you know, you're not in a bad way. 367 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: But two monitors, this two monitor on this Chrysler would 368 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: not run. This this twenty twelve Chrysler two hundred. All 369 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: right back to my original vehicle and the reason it 370 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: didn't run, well, it's it's probably a little bit more 371 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: than just a quick Hey, this was what it was. 372 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell you on the flip side. I'm running any 373 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: and the Car Doctor come on back and we'll talk 374 00:18:30,760 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: about this Chrysler together. Welcome back, Ron and Nanni of 375 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. We're talking about two monitors. We're talking 376 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: about monitors on cars self tests on cars, and we 377 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: were talking about the Chrysler two hundred that I was 378 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: working on in the Ford Mustang this past week. And 379 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: before we took the pause, I said, we were discussing 380 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: the issues I had with this twenty twelve Chrysler two hundred. 381 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: I could not get the oxygen sensor monitor to run. 382 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: And we went round and round, and we did all 383 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: the normal things that we normally drive. Because we have 384 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: a drive cycle, we have a test loop that we 385 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: go through and understand when the EPA, when the Environmental 386 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: Protection Agency mandated they wanted a drive cycle. They wanted 387 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: something to verify if a vehicle is a mission compliant. 388 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: They base it on a particular drive route. I believe 389 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: the majority of drive cycles for monitors to run a 390 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: majority of the tests. How they design it is. They 391 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: took a commuter loop in the city of Los Angeles 392 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: at one point and they said, well, a person has 393 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: to accelerate so many miles at this speed, so many 394 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: miles at that speed, so much idle time and so forth, 395 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: and then they said, okay, it's got to be a 396 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: mission compliant during those particular operating conditions. It's funny the 397 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: little things that will trip you up, because then you 398 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: find that not every monitor is the same vehicle to vehicle. 399 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: This twenty twelve Chrysler two hundred. For the love of money, 400 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't get the two monitor run. So I came 401 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: back to the shop and I sat down and I 402 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: read monitors again. Now understand, it's a three page breakdown 403 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: of what an oxygen sensor monitor is for this Chrysler 404 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: two hundred, and at the bottom of the third page, 405 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: the bottom of the very last page, you find the 406 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: monitor does not run the oxygen sensor test if any 407 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: of the following conditions are present, you're ready air conditioning on. Huh. 408 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: So that means if you're driving a vehicle and you 409 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: want to get a monitor to go, if you've got 410 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: the air conditioning on, which it's the beginning of summer, 411 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: I would think you're driving with the air conditioning on, 412 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: because why would that be so critical? It won't run 413 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: the monitor. Turn the air conditioning off, went for a 414 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: ride with the windows open. The monitor ran in two minutes. 415 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: And you know, some days, it's just the way order 416 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: repair works. It's it's the attention to detail. It's the 417 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: little things, right. What I always tell you guys, You 418 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: don't get beat physically in this business, you get beat mentally. 419 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: You know, perhaps I should have read the three pages 420 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: before I you know, because I read that, I read 421 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: the set criteria beforehand, but I didn't see the very 422 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: bottom line and small print at the very bottom where 423 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: it talked about you know, the AC has to be off. 424 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: But we see those kind of things and that's that's 425 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: part of what's making order repair so difficult, is the minutia. 426 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: Is the little things that you know, create those issues. 427 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: And you know, fortunately I found that that was out 428 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: of Mitchell and Pro Demand, and you know, they did 429 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: a real great job at editor editoring what's the word 430 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm looking for, putting that all together and doing the 431 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: editing to make that stand up because next time I'll 432 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: know where look. You know, you learn something new in 433 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: this business each and every day. It never changes. Speaking 434 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: of Mitchell, there was an interesting Shure Track fix from 435 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: them this week where somebody was talking about a Silverado 436 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: engine swamp and the Shuretrack real fix this week came 437 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: in where somebody had swapped a six point six liter 438 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: diesel engine and they put a used engine in it. 439 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: You know, I got to tell you the the used 440 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: engine swap scenario really isn't isn't a big market anymore. 441 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: I don't think it can be. There's there's too much 442 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: that has to you know, be exact in the way 443 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: that it matches up. And in the end, they talked 444 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: amongst themselves. See, because what Mitchell has done is they're 445 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: pro demand customers who are subscribing to their repair information 446 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: in their other software. Their pro demand customers have the 447 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: ability to talk to each other in a community and 448 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: it's a forum, and you know, it's it's like I 449 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: always say, if you think you're the only person having 450 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: that problem, you're not that special. Trust me. There's a 451 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: lot of guys out there that are having that issue. 452 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: And using the sure track form, they found out that 453 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: the pump and fuel filter were at fault, you know, 454 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: in the new engine, and by swapping things around they 455 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: were able to get the engine to run and operate properly. So, 456 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it's the simple things that may go 457 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: to repair. So exciting. Let's go to the phones. Let's go, 458 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: who's this Brendan in Connecticut, oh seven Corolla with some 459 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: questions on a clunk. Brendan your own with the car doctor, Sir, 460 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: how can I help? 461 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 3: Oh, yes, I got a Corolla in two thousand and seven, right, 462 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 3: and and having a click noise right when it started 463 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 3: to accelerate. It doesn't matter matter whether I'm in reverse 464 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 3: or going forward, single bitty still going. Then it stops. 465 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 3: It doesn't keep clicking clunking. 466 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, broke up a little bit there, Brendan. Were you 467 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: saying that you're hearing a clicker clunking on acceleration or 468 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: in forward or reverse? Was that the gist of that? Oh? 469 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, and and. 470 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 1: Uh I'm going I was gonna say if you were 471 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: to as anybody looked at this up in the air, 472 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: verified the basic suspension is solid there. 473 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what. 474 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: Let's I'll tell you what. Let's pull over. Let's pull over. 475 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: Take a pause. Maybe Tom can get Brendan on a 476 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: better line, and this way we can hear him on 477 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: the on the other side of it. So let me 478 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: pull over. Take the pause. I'm running ENnie and the 479 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: car Doctor. We'll be back right after this. Hey, welcome 480 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: back running in the car Doctor. Here at a five five, 481 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: five six zero nine nine zero zero. Keep in mind 482 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: that phone number is twenty four to seven. I'll do 483 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: it again. Eight five five five six zero nine nine 484 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: zero zero. You can call us even if we're not 485 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: on and you're in your affiliate during show hours, live 486 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: show hours or Saturday afternoons two to four pm Eastern Time, 487 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: but you can call the eight five five five six 488 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero phone number and leave a 489 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: message Tom Ray. We'll call you back and get you 490 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: in the q F the next live broadcast. I see 491 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: Brendan's back. Brendan, you're there, sir, Yes, I'm here, much much, 492 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: much much better. Let's start over. Hi, It's Brendan from 493 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: Connecticut with an OH seven Corolla. What's going on? 494 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? So I have a clunk noise and it's basically 495 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 3: just when I accelerate, whether it doesn't matter where it's 496 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: reverse or forward. It's a single clunk and it's coming 497 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 3: from like the transmission where the axle shaft goes in. Okay, 498 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: So I'm wondering if that can be that is it? 499 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 3: Can it be that the axle shaft replacement? Or how 500 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: do I go about finding out whether it's the transmission 501 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 3: or do I to find out the hard way? 502 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: So well, yeah, no, we don't want to find anything 503 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: out the hard way. You know, are you saying the 504 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: shaft was replaced or it's not. It hasn't been replaced yet. 505 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 3: No, it has not been replaced. 506 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: Okay, higher mileage. 507 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, two fifteen? Yeah, all right. 508 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: So if you drive this up in the air, do 509 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: you hear the clunk? 510 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: So I just did the front brakes and I had 511 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 3: one tire off the ground, and when I when I 512 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 3: turned the tire back and forth, there's a little bit 513 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 3: of play. So I can hear the click each time 514 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 3: I turn it. Either way I turn the. 515 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: Tire, Okay, so if you can you So what you're 516 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: saying is you can duplicate the noise by spinning the 517 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: driver's side or the passenger side or either one. 518 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 3: It's either one, okay. 519 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: So if it's either one, you know, are you watching 520 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: the axle as your concern is the axle rotationally got 521 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: slop in it. For lack of a better way to 522 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: put it. 523 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 3: What I mean, everything looks good, The boots are no 524 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 3: leaks or anything like that, and the leaks coming from it. 525 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not Yeah, that doesn't you know. I'm not 526 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: worried about that. I'm thinking more in terms of the 527 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: is the inside of the joint is the outer joint, uh, 528 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: you know, moving against the plunge because it's it's got 529 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: to be tight. You know, if if if if In 530 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: other words, if you were to if you had the 531 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: axle out on the bench and you had it in 532 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: your two hands, if you grabbed the outer casing of 533 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: the joint and grab the shaft, can you rotate them 534 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: against each other such that there's play? There can't be 535 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: any play there. It has to be. It has to 536 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: have you know, one to one contact. There can't be 537 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: a yeah, there can't. There can't be any slop. So 538 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: you know, at two hundred and fifteen thousand miles, you know, 539 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: is it possible that the inside joint is starting to 540 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: tulip er or starting to wear, giving it a you know, 541 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: a dead spot? Does it polar drag under heart acceleration 542 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: to the left or the right? 543 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 4: Now? 544 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: Okay, So you know, if it did, then I'd be 545 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: more I'd be more convinced that it's an axle. But 546 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: if the axle itself is tight, there's no rotational slop 547 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: against each other, and then I'm going to say, chances 548 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: are the axle itself is okay, and you're looking at 549 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: where in the final drive of the transmission, because that's 550 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: basically the rear end of the vehicle where that axle 551 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: goes in. That's that's just there's just side gears in 552 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: there in a carrier with a ring and opinion of 553 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: of of some sort of setup and uh, you know, 554 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: that's basically all you're looking at. 555 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: You know. I was thinking about maybe changing the axles 556 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: and seeing if it's still made the noise, but I 557 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 3: don't want to go. 558 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: Through all that. 559 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want Yeah, I don't want to spend 560 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: the money either if we don't have to, uh, you know, 561 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,479 Speaker 1: and then depending upon what you buy for it, you know, 562 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: it may or may not be a great axle. You know, 563 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: if you do have to put axles in it, do 564 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: you have a local AutoZone? Yeah, go over there and 565 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: look and see if door List and I believe door 566 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: List will make a drive axle for that. The door 567 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: List axles are made very well and we use them 568 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: all the time and they're not an issue. So you know, 569 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: you could do that if it comes to that, But 570 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: you've got to verify, you know, which is at first? 571 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: Is it is it axle or is it transmission? You know, 572 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: when you say it's it's sloppy. If you if you 573 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: get it up in the air and you got it, 574 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: you have it in neutral. This is an automatic correct 575 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: or is this a stick? 576 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 4: Yes? 577 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, automatic automatic? 578 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: Okay. If you put this in neutral, you know, and 579 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 1: you rotate the axle, you know, can you rotate the 580 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: axle without the other side turning so both sides are 581 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: up in you know, it's up in the air. Both 582 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: sides are off the ground in neutral. If you rotate 583 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: the left side, does the left side move and the 584 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: right side doesn't? 585 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 4: Right? 586 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: And we don't want that, well, we don't want that right. 587 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: Think about it? You ever look at you ever look 588 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: at how the inside of a differential works. Brendan, No, 589 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: I have not. Go go go go google differential gear 590 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: set up? All right. There's two side gears, we call 591 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: them side gears. The side gears are splind to the 592 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: drive axle, all right. And then there are spiders or 593 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: there's the other set of gears generally referred to as 594 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: spiders that evolve around those. That's how the differential, or 595 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: the cause the ratio changes. As a vehicle goes around 596 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: a corner, the inside tire moves at a different speed 597 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: or ratio than the outside tire. Right. So that's what 598 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: a differential does. It takes up the difference or the 599 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: differential in wheel speed, and it does that by allowing 600 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: the gears to revolve onto themselves. So look at how 601 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: a differential works. So if you've got it to the 602 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: point where the one side and it'll it makes sense 603 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: if you look at a picture if it. If you've 604 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: got it where the one side holding the axle steady 605 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: on the right side, if the left side actually moves 606 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: and the right side doesn't, you don't feel any drag there, 607 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: then what you're experiencing is you know and it will. 608 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: You have to be careful how you do this in 609 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: the sense of you can over you can over diagnose 610 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: yourself into a corner. But just understand you shouldn't. You 611 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: shouldn't feel slop all right, There shouldn't be excessive movement. 612 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: If there is, then it sounds like the differential in 613 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: that transmission has got somewhere to it. Are we gonna 614 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: Are we gonna do it? Are we gonna do anything 615 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: about it? At two hundred and fifteen thousand miles? No, 616 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: Because you're gonna put a trans in the car and 617 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, at that point, do you really want to 618 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: do that? You know, it's it's it's it's that's not 619 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: the purpose here. We're trying to drive. I know what 620 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: you're thinking. You're trying to drive this car to three 621 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: hundred thousand. 622 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 3: Right, Well, I might have to keep it. I might 623 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 3: put a transmission in it then right. 624 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and that's and listen and that's okay too. 625 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: But at least you'll know what it is, So all right, 626 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,479 Speaker 1: do that. That's that's how I want you to approach it. 627 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: And you're sure it's from the front, let me just 628 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: stop finish here. Your sure it's from the front of 629 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: the vehicle. 630 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. I put my head right under the transmission 631 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: and quick the tire back and forth. While my head 632 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 3: was right there, I could hear it. 633 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, and you can hear this. You hear this 634 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: in the car while you're driving. 635 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that single pop when I first accelerate. 636 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, okay, yeah, And that's not that's not normal. 637 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: I can tell you that for certain. It sounds like 638 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: it's sounds like it's going to be in the final drive. 639 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: Have you looked at trans fluid color or final drive 640 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: fluid color. 641 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 3: I don't. 642 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: I don't remember if this is a separate sump or not. 643 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: I think it's lubricated by the trans fluid. I'm be 644 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: honest with you. 645 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 3: My chance is good. I had to change like six. 646 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: Months ago, okay, and the fluid came out clean. Yeah, 647 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: all right, just double double check. Make sure the final 648 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: drive is lubricated by the trans fluid itself. All right, 649 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't remember at the top of my head. 650 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: And as long as it is and the fluid was clean, 651 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: then I'm okay. But if the fluid was dirty, or 652 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: if it's a separate fill and you're driving around with 653 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: low fluid or dirty fluid, then maybe that contributed to 654 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: the demise of the differential that much sooner makes sense. 655 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 3: Okay, So all right, kiddo, Yeah, thank you. 656 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure. You'd be well. I'm running any in 657 00:32:48,800 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: the car doctor. We'll be back right after this. Welcome back, 658 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: Roy name the car doctor, Brendan. If you're still listening, 659 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: the whole idea there is. I was thinking about the 660 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: way I explained it. It may not have done it right. 661 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: We want to load the one side axle so that 662 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: it's tight against the side gear, it's tight against the spiders. 663 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: And then can you rotate the other side before it 664 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: engages before the side gear, well, before the accident engages 665 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: the side gear, and before the side gear engages the spiders, 666 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: if you can rotate it all right? And there's slop there, 667 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: and that shows you that the clunk is coming from 668 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: the differential and that's the issue, or is the slop 669 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: once it locks up the spider in the side gear 670 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: in the ring and the pinion in the final drive there? 671 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: But it sounds like this is going to be in 672 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,239 Speaker 1: final drive. If it's not in the axle, it's going 673 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: to be in the final drive, which is the same 674 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: thing as a differential on a rear wheel drive car. 675 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: Email from Danny in Mexico City. I always like hearing 676 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: from Danny. Hey, Ron, you remember me as Danny from 677 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: Mexico City. Well that's how I remember you, since I 678 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: called you several times. You see, air quality is so 679 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: poured down here in Mexico away from hig ozone levels 680 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: that the environmental authorities have put in place a system 681 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety one. I got to tell you, that's 682 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: when I started on radio where cars are banned from 683 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: being driven on certain weekdays depending on their license plate numbers, 684 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: and if cars are relatively decent, they are barely banned 685 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: only on atmospheric high pollution contingencies. There's a phrase. My 686 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: newest car, a two thousand and four Pontiac Grand Prix, 687 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: has the potential of being exempt from the harshest restrictions, 688 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: just like any brand new internal combustion engine car is 689 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: if I have its catalytic converter replaced only with the 690 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 1: government certified brand, which is called Pirak. Obviously non oem 691 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: so that begs the question by putting my car's fuel 692 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: injection system and operating quality in general at risk by 693 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: swapping its current factory cat with one of the aftermarket ones. 694 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: Thanks a million, Danny, you know, Danny. In the way 695 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: I answered Danny's question was, you know, it's interesting. I've 696 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: never seen a scenario where the government is mandating the 697 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: use of a particular brand of an emission component. All right, 698 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: I guess things are obviously different down Mexico Way than 699 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: they are here in the States. My one concern is 700 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: because an aftermarket CAT, generally, if we're speaking in terms 701 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: of the United States, will meet federal emissions levels. It 702 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: just will not last as long as that OEM CAT, 703 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: even though the warranty is in place so that it should. 704 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: I usually find the aftermarket cats won't last as long, 705 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: but sometimes that's okay. You know, maybe we'll get five 706 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: years out of the aftermarket cat. Well, we want to 707 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: get ten out of that OE or eight out of 708 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: that OE. There's a huge cost savings. So my advice 709 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: to Danny was to research PUREC and see what sort 710 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: of a company they are. I have not heard of them, 711 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: but I would be cautious before I just put that 712 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 1: cat on blindly. I'm running eighty in the car, doctor, 713 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: reminding you till the next time. The mechanics aren't expensive, 714 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: they're priceless. See you