1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. You're listening to the 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Intelligence Podcast. Catch us live weekdays at ten am 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: Eastern on fo car Playing and broyd Otto with the 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business App. Listen on demand wherever you get your podcasts, 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: or watch us live on YouTube. 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: Let's go right now down to Charleston, South Carolina. Republican 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: presidential candidate Nikki Haley. 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: Let's stick a listen. 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 3: I said the campaign was grounded in my love for 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: our country. Just last week, my mother, a first generation immigrant, 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: got to vote for her daughter for president only in America. 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 3: I am filled with the gratitude for the outpouring of 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: support we've received from all across our great country. But 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: the time has now come to suspend my campaign. I said, 15 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: I wanted Americans to have their voices heard. I have 16 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 3: done that. I have no regrets, and although I will 17 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 3: no longer be a candidate, I will not stop using 18 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: my voice for the things I believe in. Our national 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: debt will eventually crush our economy. A smaller federal government 20 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: is not only necessary for our freedom, it is necessary 21 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: for our survival. The road to socialism is the road 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: to ruin for America. Our Congress is dysfunctional and only 23 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: getting worse. It is filled with followers, not leaders. Term 24 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: limits for Washington politicians are needed now more than ever. 25 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: Our world is on fire because of America's retreat. Standing 26 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 3: by our allies in Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan is a 27 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: moral imperative. But it's also more than that. If we 28 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: retreat further, there will be more war, not less. As important, 29 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: while we stand strong for the cause of freedom, we 30 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: must bind together as Americans. We must turn away from 31 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 3: the darkness of hatred and division. I will continue to 32 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: promote all those values, as is the right of every American. 33 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: I sought the honor of being your president, but in 34 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 3: our great country, being a private citizen is privilege enough 35 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 3: in itself, and that's a privilege I very much look 36 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: forward to enjoy. In all likelihood, Donald Trump will be 37 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 3: the Republican nominee when our party convention meets in July. 38 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: I congratulate him and wish him well. I wish anyone 39 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: well who would be America's president. Our country is too 40 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: precious to let our differences divide us. I have always 41 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: been a conservative Republican and always supported the Republican nominee. 42 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: But on this question, as she did on so many others, 43 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: Margaret Thatcher provided some good advice when she said, quote, 44 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: never just follow the crowd, always make up your own mind. 45 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 3: It is now up to Donald Trump to earn the 46 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: votes of those in our party and beyond it who 47 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 3: did not support him, and I hope he does that. 48 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: At its best, politics is about bringing people into your cause, 49 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: not turning them away, and our conservative cause badly needs 50 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: more people. This is now his time for choosing. I 51 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: end my campaign with the same words I began it 52 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: from the Book of Joshua. I direct them to all Americans, 53 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: but especially to so many of the women and girls 54 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: out there who put their faith in our campaign. Be 55 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 3: strong and courageous. Do not be afraid, do not be discouraged, 56 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: for God will be with you wherever you go. In 57 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: this campaign, I have seen our country's greatness. From the 58 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: bottom of my heart, Thank you America, God bless you. 59 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: That was I guess we call former Republican presidential kendidate 60 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: NICKI Halley, delivering remarks in Charleston, South Carolina, formerly withdrawing 61 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: from this presidential election and. 62 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 4: Made it very clear that no one's to ask her 63 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 4: who she's voting for, right, basically saying that that's a 64 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: private citizen's right to vote for who she's voting for 65 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 4: and what no endorsement and clearly not endorsing President Trump, 66 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 4: And I really wonder what that means. Is that a 67 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 4: twenty twenty eight thing or is it a convention thing? 68 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. All I know is I think 69 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: we're going to have to really pay attention is to 70 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: these conventions, particularly yes, the Republican Convention this summer. In 71 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: the past, you can kind of just kind of blow 72 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: by them and go to the you know, the baseball 73 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: game on, but I think you might have to focus 74 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: a little bit this time. Let's check in with Josh 75 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: wind Grow if he's Bloomberg White House reporter. Josh, you 76 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: heard former Governor Nikki Halley's comments here, Any takeaways for 77 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 2: you today? 78 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that was a sort of a polite 79 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 5: sounding of the alarm or comment on it being up 80 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 5: to Trump to earn support inside and outside the party 81 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 5: is essentially a nicer version of what she's been saying 82 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 5: on the stump that Trump is, in her view as 83 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 5: now headed for a loss. Of course, the polls show 84 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 5: he's winning right now. But the big question throughout this 85 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 5: primary is what happens to the twenty thirty forty percent 86 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 5: of state primary voters who've been voting for Haley. Do 87 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 5: they vote for Donald Trump? Did they stay in the fold, 88 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 5: did they stay home? Do they back to third party candidate? 89 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 5: Some of them are saying the vote for Joe Biden. 90 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 5: So I think that she's sort of sounding the alarm 91 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 5: a little bit. I wouldn't pay so much attention to 92 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 5: the convention personally. I suppose it's a guess in any 93 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 5: sense of the word here. I think Nicky Haley is 94 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 5: staking out I told you so ground and that if 95 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 5: and when or if Donald Trump wins in the VAUL, 96 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 5: then Haley's playing the party wasn't going to be all 97 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 5: that high anyway. If you lose it in the vall, 98 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 5: then she's the one that can say that she was 99 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,559 Speaker 5: loudly warning of that, and that sort of her inside 100 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 5: track for at least a certain segment of the party 101 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty eight. 102 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 4: Okay, So Josh, that may seem like it is a 103 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 4: twenty twenty eight sort of thing, because there was a 104 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 4: narrative for a second about the convention and trying to 105 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 4: get delegates, and she just like kind of show up 106 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: and see what happens. You don't think that's a real thing. 107 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know, though. I'm curious whether she'll 108 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 5: speak at the convention. I think a lot of us 109 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 5: will be spending our times combing through the vagaries of 110 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 5: the rules of the R and C to see whether 111 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 5: she president would either sort of suggest she gets the 112 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 5: speaking spot or not. This is going to be a 113 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 5: tricky one for her. She's been pretty vocal in sort 114 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 5: of reviews of where Trump is going, and so you know, 115 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 5: to the extent that she is, if she's there and 116 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 5: sort of in the fold and speaking to suburban communities, 117 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 5: you know, that sort of those sort of voters that 118 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 5: a Trump has been losing, then that's probably good for 119 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 5: Donald Trump. But if she's there sort of reminding everyone 120 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 5: that there's a in her view, sort of a five 121 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 5: alarm fire going on, then then that's bad for Donald Trump. 122 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 5: But you know, we look at where she has performed 123 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 5: well in the primaries, is the types of areas where 124 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 5: Joe Biden wants to perform well in the general election. 125 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 5: It is suburbs, It is cities, and so the Biden 126 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 5: people have been, you know, Nicki Haley fans essentially a 127 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 5: because she's out there prosecuting a case against Donald Trump 128 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 5: htorically on the election circuit, but b because they think 129 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 5: that her very candidacy was sort of reminding voters that 130 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 5: they might not be Donald Trump voters. 131 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: All right, Josh, thank you so much. We appreciate getting 132 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: some thoughts there, Josh Win Grove Bloomberg, White House reporter. Again, 133 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: Nicki Haley withdrawing from the race, as I think a 134 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: lot of folks thought she would after Super Tuesday. 135 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 4: Right, but it does really open up that twenty twenty 136 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 4: eight and sort of I'm really interested in what those 137 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 4: voters do. And if you don't have her at the convention, 138 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 4: what's in it for those voters at the convention? Like 139 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 4: who's talking for them? 140 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I think it's again, I believe 141 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: we're talking earlier with Tom Keen that this is this 142 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: is Donald Trump's Republican party now in every shape. I 143 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: choked to John Tucker that if my father alive, he'd 144 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: vote for Richard Nixon. I don't think my father would 145 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: recognize his Republican party. But it is in fact changed 146 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: and it is behind President Trump, so will see how 147 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: that plays out. 148 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 5: Again. 149 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to pay attention to the you know, the 150 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: when they have these meetings this summer, these conventions. 151 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: This is the Bloomberg Intelligence Podcast, available on apples, Spotify, 152 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: and anywhere else you will get your podcasts. 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