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Speaker 2: has spent millions of his own dollars to never die,

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Speaker 2: maybe even cracked the code that limits the human life

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Speaker 2: span and the King of Longevity, Brian Johnson.

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Speaker 1: What drives someone to spend two million dollars to not die?

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Speaker 2: Let's just say we fast forward a few hundred years.

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Speaker 2: That's when humans figured out they were transitioning from die

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Speaker 2: to don't die. One night of bad sleep reduces your

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Speaker 2: NK cells by seventy percent. Your NK sales are was

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Speaker 1: I'd never heard that before.

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Speaker 2: they're causing very serious health problems. It may be worse

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Speaker 2: than we think. I had this general idea that there

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Speaker 1: What age are you predicting to live to the Number

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Speaker 1: one health and wellness podcast, Jay set Jay Sheeta Set, Hey, Everyone,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to On Purpose the number one health and

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Speaker 1: wellness podcast in the world. Thanks to each and every

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Speaker 1: one of you that keep coming back every week to listen,

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Speaker 1: learn and grow. Now, today's guest is someone who says

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Speaker 1: they're not going to let themselves die. Brian Johnson is

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Speaker 1: known as the world's most measured human. Brian spent four

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Speaker 1: years creating Project Blueprint, which is an endeavor to achieve

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Speaker 1: humanity and Earth scale cooperation within self. As a forty

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Speaker 1: a lifestyle that costs him two million dollars annually. He

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Speaker 1: Purpose Brian Johnson. Brian, it's great to have you here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I wanted to dive in straight away, and just

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Speaker 2: I think it's very confusing to a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: I think when you read the headlines and you view

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Speaker 2: And I'm really the forerunner in trying to start that process.

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Speaker 2: So the two million is primarily spent on the research

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Speaker 1: And what are the adverse effects of microplastics.

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Speaker 2: Water is one of the worst offenders, So don't drink

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Speaker 2: and my protocol, I haven't listed there. And if you're

434
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Speaker 2: in the United States, the guy who set it up

435
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 2: for me, I have his number and name. If you don't,

436
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 2: just call him. There's other systems that are better. They're

437
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 2: like comparable. They are like three hundred dollars. So it's

438
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 2: a very common technology. It's easily accessible. But have that

439
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 2: in your home. Is water filter because microplastics are in water.

440
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 2: And so that's why when people they say, like, well,

441
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Speaker 2: I get my food at a farmer's market, therefore right,

442
00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 2: but they don't realize that the water that is, you know,

443
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: coming there too for the farm is like could be

444
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 2: filled with microplastics. So there's just there's no safe place

445
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 2: anywhere for microplastics. Number two is, for example, canned soups

446
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 2: in one study, they showed that a person who consumed

447
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 2: canned soup for one week increase their their levels by

448
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 2: twenty folds just in one week. Wow, gigantic. Yeah. Also

449
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 2: be aware of clothing, so try to use like hemp, cotton, silk,

450
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,160
Speaker 2: et cetera. Use a hepa filter when you're vacuuming because

451
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 2: they can be airborne in the house. Don't handle receipts

452
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 2: that has a lot of plastic microplastics. Using cookware that

453
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 2: have the stainless still or cast iron instead of nonstick

454
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 2: is really helpful. But there's those are the kind of

455
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 2: the big ones to be aware. If you go through

456
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Speaker 2: your house environment, just say, like where is plastic? You

457
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 2: might find you have a plastic cutting board, you might

458
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 2: find you have plastic kitchen utensils, you might have plastic plates.

459
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Speaker 2: So just be plastic aware. Once you have that mindset,

460
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: you're going to realize that plastic is like everywhere, So

461
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 2: just slowly make progress and trying to replace that with

462
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 2: stainless still, aluminum things like that.

463
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Speaker 1: What's fascinating is you have no idea how it's entering

464
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Speaker 1: the system. Yes, because it's not a physical, tangible experience.

465
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: You're not like feeling something.

466
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: Exactly merging into your skin.

467
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well becaus through the What I was thinking about

468
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Speaker 1: as you were talking, is this idea of what happens

469
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Speaker 1: to water in a plastic bottle versus a glass bottle.

470
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're getting leeching from the plastic. And

471
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: so I think the average plastic bottle has I think

472
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: two hundred thousand microplastic particles something like that, So it's

473
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Speaker 2: a very large amount. And so generally speaking, so I've

474
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Speaker 2: just made this rule. Like today, I brought my stainless still,

475
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 2: I just carried this around with me everywhere I go

476
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Speaker 2: as my primary container for liquid. But yeah, so just

477
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Speaker 2: try to avoid plastic as a water bottle generally. And

478
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Speaker 2: the thing is, like most more on a bigger scale,

479
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Speaker 2: the things which we can't see are now humanity's biggest threats.

480
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 2: Like we are we're evolved to say, is there a

481
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Speaker 2: lion in the bush or not? You know, we can

482
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 2: we sense it, can we smell it, can we see it?

483
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: Whereas now the dangers of like CO two build up

484
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: in the atmosphere. We can't see it, we can't smell it,

485
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 2: like we don't know it exists. So the only thing

486
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: we know how it exists. If we see like a

487
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: number on a screen that's like, this is bad because

488
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 2: in this number, we're like, what does that mean? We

489
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 2: can't see it. There's no real threat. The same as

490
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Speaker 2: true with microplastics. It's like this unknown threat, we can't

491
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Speaker 2: see it, we can't fill it. And so that's why

492
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: what I've been doing is I've been trying to say,

493
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Speaker 2: like we the reason when we measure everything is to

494
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 2: basically give your body superpowers of awareness. It's like, now

495
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 2: we understand, like what's happening when you ingest fast food,

496
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: we understand what happens when you ingest microplastics, what happens

497
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Speaker 2: when you ingest when you don't sleep well? Like you

498
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: see the whole system effect, and so it's really cool

499
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: in real time to see like actually, yes, like for example,

500
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Speaker 2: one night of bad sleep, can I think it's four

501
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 2: hours or less, reduces your NK cells by seventy percent.

502
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 2: NK sales and K sales always killing cancer cells. So

503
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: like your army of defense systems, like seventy percent of

504
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 2: your army is wiped out after one bad night of sleep,

505
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: and so it just has these really catastrophic effects.

506
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Speaker 1: I'd never heard that before, Yeah.

507
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, or like there's this thing called S one B,

508
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 2: and so you want these levels to be like in

509
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: between twenty one hundred minor six sixty three point eight.

510
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 2: When you don't sleep well, it's a toxin that gets

511
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: inside the brains. The blood brain barrier breaks down. When

512
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 2: you have a bad nights sleep. It's the same level

513
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Speaker 2: as a traumatic brain injury. And so like the body

514
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 2: is responding as though you had a traumatic brain injury

515
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: from one bad night sleep. So these things accumulate over time,

516
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 2: and that's why it's sleep is so critical. It's why

517
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: this culture of entrepreneurship is like, oh, sleep on you're

518
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: dead is so lethal to your wellness.

519
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Speaker 1: I'm so glad you're you're talking about it, and I

520
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: love the you know that idea that it's almost like

521
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: the worst prison that you can be in is one

522
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: where you don't know you've got handcuffs on. Yeah, like

523
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: you don't realize it. And I mean social media is

524
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: kind of like that, Like you're in this prison of

525
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: a world and you don't even realize you're being trapped.

526
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: And our health's the same way I was. My friend's

527
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Speaker 1: dad was in town from London, a couple of weeks back,

528
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Speaker 1: and he has this app on his phone that shows

529
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Speaker 1: the air pollution. I don't know what it's called IQ, right, okay,

530
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Speaker 1: And he had it on his phone and he lives

531
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Speaker 1: outside of the city of London, so he's not really

532
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Speaker 1: in the heart of London. And he said that pollution

533
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: score where my friend grew up, where my wife grew

534
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: up is around two. Like I think it's on a

535
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Speaker 1: scale of zero to one hundred unless I'm wrong. And

536
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: he did it here in la and it was sixty yes,

537
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: And I was like, I have no to me when

538
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: I wake up, I feel like the yeas Like, I mean,

539
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: everyone knows La is polluted, but I don't feel that

540
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: exactly right. I don't know that. Whereas like if I

541
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: go to a certain country in the world which is

542
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: known for its horrific pollution, I can somewhat tell the difference. Yeah,

543
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: But it was like I could tell no difference from

544
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: this between where my wife grew up in England, yet

545
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: exactly it's extraordinarily different.

546
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, on the air pollution, I agree

547
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: with you. I live in la as well, so I

548
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: have a air measurement device in every room in my

549
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: house and filters, and so we measured the air quality

550
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: in every single room twenty four seven. So you're right, Like,

551
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: LA air quality is typically around the sixty mark, which

552
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: is like kind of bad. But my house it's perfect.

553
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 2: It's zero, And so I'm always aware of where the

554
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: air quality is outside and inside. So, yeah, I wish

555
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: LA had better air quality. I love LA for so

556
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: many reasons. I really wish the air quality was better.

557
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: But ye, I agree with you. It is a significant

558
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: health threat and it's not a good idea to have

559
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: a lot of exposure to that air.

560
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: How do we go about purifying air inside of our homes?

561
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: Obviously we can't control the air in the city we

562
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: live in.

563
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's quite a few filters. I'll get you

564
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: the names the ones I use. But I just have

565
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: one filter per room and it does a great job

566
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: taking down multiple contaminants. So if you're just mindful, like

567
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: for example, I'd never leave my windows open, so it's

568
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: always a pretty tight air block. I do go outside,

569
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: you know, when the air quality is nice. I try

570
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: it mindful. But also like if we're going to play

571
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 2: like basketball game with friends, I'll also do that, So

572
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: I kind of have like some flexibility, but yeah, you

573
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: can actually maintain near perfect air quality in the house.

574
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: And so if you go to my house, like I'd

575
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: love to have you come see it, Like it's basically

576
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 2: we have perfect water, perfect air. It's the optimal state

577
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 2: for health across all the spectrum.

578
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Speaker 1: And when you talk about water too, have you changed

579
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Speaker 1: the water you're showering in as well? Because I think

580
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: that's sometimes that's something me and my wife have been

581
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: talking about. We have a reverser as most this machine

582
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: for water that we drink. Yes, but recently we were

583
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: talking to a skin health expert and he was talking

584
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Speaker 1: about the water we showering having a different effect. And

585
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: I literally tested washing my face with the water I

586
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: drink and washing my face with shower water, and he

587
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: could immediately tell the difference using the tools and devices

588
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: he was measuring, just with how it affected my skin.

589
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's very true. So we actually did the

590
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,239
Speaker 2: same measurements where I took water that was from our

591
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: filter system and water tapwater, I put it into a

592
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: humidifier in my room, I turned it on, and then

593
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: I measured the air quality based upon humidified tapwater and

594
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: filtered water. The tap water set off all the alarms.

595
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: It was like danger zone, something bad is happening. So

596
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: we're doing the analysis now. But I agree like they'd

597
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: cause a lot of harm on skin inside the body,

598
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: so yeah, and they have to be practically managed.

599
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. What I find fascinating about so much of this

600
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: stuff is then you said you were going to India

601
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: soon and you'll see it there. Like when I grew

602
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: up and when I used to visit India when I

603
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: was young, and even when I lived there for some time,

604
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: we always use stainless steel to drink in like that

605
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: was the norm. And it's almost like now it's like

606
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: all these new you know, now everyone's using stainless steel

607
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,239
Speaker 1: in the Western world. But now if you'll go back

608
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: to India, lots of plastic bottles everywhere. And so it's

609
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: such a like weird thing as to how we went

610
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: away from tried and tested wisdom that we already had.

611
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: Like in my home, every cup for drinking water growing

612
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 1: up would be stainless steel, Yeah, because it was the

613
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Speaker 1: Indian way to do it. And I always didn't like

614
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Speaker 1: it because I didn't like the clanging. It felt weird

615
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: because when I'm in a friend's house is they didn't

616
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Speaker 1: have stainless steel cups and things. It felt a bit

617
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Speaker 1: awkward and strange. Now when I think about it, I'm like, well,

618
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: that was the right way to do it.

619
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

620
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, And somehow, somehow we went away from that because

621
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Speaker 1: I guess cost it was cheaper to produce, cheaper to scale.

622
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: I wonder how much human health has been sacrificed over

623
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Speaker 1: saving and making money.

624
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: That's exactly I think. You know that is like the

625
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: biggest game in the world right now is capitalism. That's

626
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: what drives the majority of what exists in the world today.

627
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: Like religious hasher adherents doesn't really affect the effects of

628
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: capitalism all that much, right, It's a very moderate effect.

629
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Speaker 2: Capitalism is the absolute dominant effect in the world. It's

630
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: more sol than democracy, mor solinity, religion. It's the primary

631
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: game plane. So I think, yeah, and that's my primary

632
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: objective in life. Is I'm calling it a question that

633
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: the capitalism no longer answers the questions that are imminent

634
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: for us as a species.

635
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: It's funny though, because a lot of people will say

636
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: that all of these new health trends are just disguised capitalism,

637
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: but they're really simple and accessible, like you're saying, like,

638
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: I loved how you started off by explaining that the

639
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: two million dollars isn't on the protocols, which we'll get to,

640
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: but the two million is actually on the research and

641
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: the measuring so that you can prove that the protocols

642
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: were exactly right, and so it's actually accessible to everyone.

643
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: But often people are like, like, I remember when when

644
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: celary juice was the thing which has helped me a

645
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: lot in my life, for sure, at least from a

646
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: story anecdotal point of view. But I remember one being like,

647
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're just trying to make money off

648
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Speaker 1: of salary farms. And I was like, I don't know.

649
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Speaker 1: I don't think everyone. I don't think there's one person

650
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Speaker 1: that owns every salary farm, so I don't think that's working.

651
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Speaker 1: What's your take on that? If that'sn't making any sense?

652
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. Yet when I entered this world four

653
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: years ago, I thought there's so many patterns that were

654
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: similar to religion, where like you take the King James

655
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: version of the Bible and you can support one hundred

656
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: different denominations. Right, they all fight like we're the true

657
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: religion because like the scripture, that scripture. So then you

658
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: walk in the world, you're like, how do I even know,

659
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: like what's going on? It's all in the same book.

660
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: And so health and wellness was very similar. If like

661
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Speaker 2: take your guru, take your chrismatic personality, and like do

662
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: this thing. And we wanted I wanted to say, like

663
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Speaker 2: we're going to be strictly science and strictly data and

664
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Speaker 2: we're going to open source publish everything I do. There's

665
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: no gatekeeping involved here. And so that's what we did.

666
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: I think the card that uniqueness is that we just said, like,

667
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: we don't care about story, we just want to see

668
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: the data.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

670
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Speaker 2: So I think that's really been successful is that we

671
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Speaker 2: are impartial. We don't care what the answer is. We

672
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Speaker 2: just want it to work.

673
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're doing it to yourself.

674
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

675
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the greatest test. So, yeah, your sleep

676
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: score has been one hundred percent for the last eight months.

677
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: What does that require?

678
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Speaker 2: I mean I wanted to, like Amelia Earhart flew a

679
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: plane across the Atlantic, you know, people went to the

680
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: top of Everest, went to the bottom of the ocean.

681
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: Shackleton was trying to I was like, what would a

682
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: modern day explorer do? Like, what is like an epic thing?

683
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: I thought, no one has shown, no one has mastered

684
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: sleep in human history, right, Like we have no quantify

685
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: like a gold medalist of sleep. There's no like world

686
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Speaker 2: record of sleep. And I thought, I'm going to set

687
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Speaker 2: a world record of sleep. And so eight months of

688
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: perfect sleep, and I wanted to demonstrate you can achieve

689
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Speaker 2: high quality sleep every single night if you try it.

690
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Speaker 2: And so I rebuilt my entire life around it. So yeah,

691
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Speaker 2: I mean I became the world's best sleeper.

692
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Speaker 1: And what does that require to become the world world's

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Speaker 1: best sleeper?

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Speaker 2: I mean, really, five simple things which everybody can do.

695
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Speaker 2: It's so funny. I tried hundreds of things and I

696
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: just landed on five. So one is you have to

697
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Speaker 2: reframe your identity that you are a professional sleeper. So

698
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: just like you take your professional job seriously, you show

699
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: up on time, right, you learn, you grow, like you

700
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: have a lot of self respect on what you do.

701
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: The same matrure for sleep right now, Like we sleep

702
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Speaker 2: when it's convenient, or when we're done watching our show,

703
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: or when we're finished like having friends over. But sleep

704
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: is actually a profession like, you need to become really

705
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Speaker 2: good at it and respect it. Number two is the

706
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Speaker 2: last time of the time of your final meal to

707
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Speaker 2: day is really important. So at least two hours before

708
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Speaker 2: you go to bed is your final meal. Then start

709
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Speaker 2: three hours before and then four and five. MINEU is

710
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Speaker 2: currently nine hours before, So I go to bed at

711
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Speaker 2: roughly eight thirty. That's not true. I go to bed

712
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Speaker 2: at eight thirty on the dot. So then my last

713
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: bill of the day's around eleven thirty am, And so

714
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: I do that, and my resting heart rate at that

715
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Speaker 2: point is forty four. And when my resting hertbry's forty four,

716
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Speaker 2: I'm guaranteed to have a perfect night sleep. If I

717
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Speaker 2: eat two hours for bed, my resting herbay is going

718
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Speaker 2: to be like fifty six because your body is still

719
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Speaker 2: working hard to digest, and that will reduce my sleep

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Speaker 2: quality by thirty five ish percent. Just like clockwork, it's

721
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Speaker 2: very predictable. So last meal to day and then what

722
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Speaker 2: you eat is really important. If you have like a

723
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Speaker 2: big pizza or pasta or breads or alcohol, you're going

724
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Speaker 2: to disruptive sleep. So final meal, eat earlier and lighter,

725
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Speaker 2: and the right kinds of foods. Three is you want

726
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: to be aware of light, so knock out blues no

727
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Speaker 2: screen time time. There's an app called flux Flux that

728
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: knocks out blues on your screen even before that last minute.

729
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: So an hour before bed, no screen time, take lights

730
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Speaker 2: down in the house, and then also use red lights

731
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: amber lights. Four is consistency. So whatever your red time is,

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Speaker 2: it's ten thirty be in bed plus or minus thirty

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Speaker 2: minutes every night. Now, if you want to get more precise,

734
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Speaker 2: like five minutes, that's kind of hard for some people,

735
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: but thirty minutes is a pretty good one. Your body

736
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Speaker 2: will give you a super power of assistance if you're consistent.

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Speaker 2: Like when I was going to bed on time, when

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Speaker 2: I do my eight months of perfect sleep, I was

739
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Speaker 2: in bed plus or minus one minute of my bedtime,

740
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Speaker 2: and my body would when I eight twenty nine would arrive,

741
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Speaker 2: my body would just like knock out. It was unreal

742
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Speaker 2: how powerful my cycle was. So if you can harness

743
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Speaker 2: that consistency, your body will be more powerful than any

744
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: sleep pill, any other intervention. It's really good. And then

745
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Speaker 2: the fifth, and this is really important, is a wind

746
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: down routine. So one hour before bedtime, you switch from

747
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 2: work mode to sleep mode. And so it's really a

748
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: mind game because when you slip into your sleep mode

749
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: one second later, your brain's gonna say, oh, what about

750
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: this idea or what about this concern? Or what about

751
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: this problem or what about this thing I forgot to do?

752
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 2: And your body, your head just gonna your mind's gonna

753
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: pin you with all these things. You'd have to say like,

754
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: thank you ambitious Brian for the new idea I what

755
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: to do. We really appreciate you. You're doing a great

756
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 2: job in life. Also tomorrow we have all day long

757
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 2: to address this. Right now we're in sleep mode, so

758
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: I do this self talk, you know, like, oh, you

759
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: had this conversation today when you're with Jay, you said

760
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: this thing. You probably offended him. Now he probably don't

761
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: want to hang out with you anymore. You're like, you

762
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: have to cycle to all these all these anxious thoughts,

763
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: and so you have to do this self talk and

764
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: be like I hear you. It's okay, I've heard your concern.

765
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Speaker 2: Because what you're trying to do is when your head

766
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Speaker 2: HiT's a pillow, you want to be somewhat reconciled with reality.

767
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: Otherwise you're going to all night long, just loop through

768
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: those thoughts all night long, and you'll be in light

769
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: sleep and you'll just be in the same fast space

770
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: and you're missing your deep in your rim. So so

771
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: then the white everteen you switched to sleep mode. But

772
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: then you also want to do things like read a

773
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: book or for a walk, do breath work, meditate, you know,

774
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: have a nice conversation with a friend, like don't fight

775
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 2: with your partner in that window, like don't create in

776
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: a rousing situation. So those five things will give you

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00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: the best sleep of your life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like we wait for our head to

779
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: hit the pillow to reflect on the thoughts that we

780
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 1: didn't choose to reflect on before we got into bed

781
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: because we don't have that reflection time before getting into bed.

782
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: Because that's what I was going to say. I think

783
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: for most people, they can get into bed, but then

784
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: they sit there for an hour's worrying and stressing and

785
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: they're feeling anxious or nervous or overwhelmed. But you're saying

786
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: that's going to happen. You just got to do that

787
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: before you actually get into.

788
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: Bed, exactly, like you have to go through this decompression time.

789
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: You kind of have to let yourself like air out

790
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: all of its grievances, all of its ideas, like all

791
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: of its reconciliation, and you have to talk to you,

792
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: like talk through it with yourself, like hey, Brian, like

793
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 2: and be soft like I hear you like and it's okay,

794
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 2: like tomorrow we're all right. But otherwise, yeah, you're right,

795
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: like you really people most people think you lay down

796
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: and that's the time to do the reconciliation and it

797
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 2: just leads to disaster. But there's like there's five metrics

798
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 2: to pay attention to or I guess four, your sleep

799
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: is good if when you if your head is on

800
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: the pillow, you're asleep within a few minutes. If you're

801
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: longer than that, then you need some work. Two is

802
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 2: you want to be up less than thirty minutes per

803
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: night total, So if you're up for one bathroom break,

804
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: you know, back to sleep quickly. Three is like roughly

805
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: two hours of rim, roughly two hours are deep. There's

806
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: variance there. People are different on that one, but like

807
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: those are roughly the sleep stats. If you're in that category,

808
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 2: you're like early twenties, like in your sleep quality. As

809
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 2: you age, it's harder to get sleep, And that's especially

810
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 2: true for women. They have to spend much longer time

811
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: in bed than men do. So it's really important these

812
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 2: habits you cement otherwise like you're really fighting against multiple fronts.

813
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: And do you think for people who are waking up

814
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 1: often when they're asleep, or and they're awake for longer

815
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: than just a few moments, what should they be looking at?

816
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: Like what metrics should they be pushing towards to be

817
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: like that's what's causing it? How do they deduce that?

818
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's the last mill of the day, So if

819
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: their bodies agree, they'll robustly digesting. Then you have you Basically,

820
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: you'll miss your deep because when you go to sleep,

821
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 2: you fall into a deep sleep window very quickly, and

822
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: then if you miss it, you can't get it. So

823
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: last week I was at a conference and everyone went

824
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 2: out for this big party, and I wanted to try

825
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: to accommodate, like I wanted to be with everyone, So

826
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Speaker 2: I went to bed at seven pm. I woke up

827
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Speaker 2: at nine pm, so I got my two hours of

828
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Speaker 2: deep sleep. Then I went out with everybody. We had

829
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Speaker 2: a great time. I came back home, I went to bed.

830
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: I think at one or two, and then I got

831
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Speaker 2: my remaining six hours of rem you know, I get

832
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: two hours of rim but six hours of sleep, and

833
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 2: I still had a great night sleep and I felt

834
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: wonderful the next day. But if you wait and go

835
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: to bed like at midnight, for me, I would just

836
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: miss my deep sleep. It would be gone. And so

837
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: like I'm trying to like functionally be adaptive to societal

838
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: norms while it was still logging in those metrics. But yeah,

839
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: you have to be mindful of like if you build

840
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: your life around it, then you can make these adjustments.

841
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: But you really have to make a professional effort to

842
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: do this because it takes like structurally, just get it

843
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: right and then you'll win.

844
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel I feel a big difference. So I'm

845
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Speaker 1: pretty disciplined in my sleep times as well, have been

846
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: for a long time. I maybe haven't measured it for

847
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 1: as long, but I'm thankful and grateful to have great sleep.

848
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: But the I found that when I'm sleeping after midnight,

849
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how many hours I sleep for I

850
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: never feel as good in the morning exactly. It's so significant.

851
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: Why is that what's happening when we're sleeping consistently after

852
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: eleven PM or midnight, what's actually happening.

853
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: I mean, your body has a production line, so like

854
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: you have a rhythm and you can get your deep sleep.

855
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: So if you go to bed at ten thirty, your

856
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: deep sleep's going to happen between ten thirty and twelve thirty,

857
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: may have a bit more deep sleep, like a two

858
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: or three in the morning, but the majority is gonna

859
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 2: be front loaded. So if you miss that front window,

860
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: you just miss it and you can't pick it up.

861
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: Why is that front window so much more important than

862
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: the later window.

863
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you have a few sleep types. You've got REM,

864
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: you have deep, light and deep. So many restorative processes

865
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 2: are happening in REM. You've got a bunch of memory,

866
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: reconciliation and whatnot, but deep you just have this restorative

867
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 2: building process. So you basically miss out on all those

868
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: sort of processes if you miss it, which is why,

869
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: like the brain hurts when you don't get it. You

870
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: can't do like garbage collection, Like you miss the garbage truck.

871
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: What about Oh yeah, that's a great way of looking

872
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: at it, To miss the garbage truck. That's I've never

873
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: heard that. I've heard the dishwasher analogy before, but the

874
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: garbage truck one's even better. Actually, Yeah, the idea that

875
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: if your garbage didn't get picked up and it's still

876
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: outside your house or your apartment or.

877
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: Even in your home, you're stuck with it the next day.

878
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: That's pretty terrible, and you struck with it for another week.

879
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, no one, no one's coming.

880
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: No one's coming to correctly, that's great, and yeah, that

881
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: feels really really true. And I feel like what we

882
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: don't realize because we often say I know so many

883
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: people who say, but I do my best creative work

884
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: at night.

885
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.

886
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people who say, oh, yeah,

887
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: but I need to go to that party or whatever

888
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: it is right, or I feel left out or fomo

889
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, or people who just go, yeah,

890
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: I just can never get to sleep, So what's the point. Yeah,

891
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: And what would you say to someone who says any

892
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: one of those three?

893
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: So I've learned to be in doing this for four years,

894
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: I've learned to be very humble. I don't know how

895
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: much we know and how much we don't know, like

896
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 2: if it maybe, for example, like we actually know two

897
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 2: percent of what we will know in ten twenty thirty years,

898
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 2: and so we're very humble, Like for example, I am vegan,

899
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: i'm color restriction, and yet you know if you hear

900
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: those stats, and I also do low protein, and so

901
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 2: if you hear those stats, the cultural norm would be like, oh,

902
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: he for sure is broken, weak, not capable, not athletic,

903
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: not strong. But in every category, like my cardiovascro fitness,

904
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 2: my actual physical stresin all my metrics are top one percent.

905
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: And so we've defied the cultural norm of what is

906
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: good health, how you achieve good health. And so I

907
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: know this is probably true for others as well. Is

908
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: many of the things we believe are probably not true.

909
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 2: And so I'm soft also that I've learned that people

910
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: have a justification for everything. There's just no way around it.

911
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: That's that's humans. And so I don't try to resist it,

912
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: just say, like, great, do your thing. Just measure your data,

913
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: because we know the stats, like for example, if you're

914
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 2: not sleeping well, your other marketers are going to be off,

915
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 2: like your SB one hundred, like all these different all

916
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: these markers are going to be off. I invite just

917
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: look at the data.

918
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: What are the data driven insights of poor sleep? Like,

919
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: what really is going to happen to you? You already

920
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: taught us what happens after one night of sleep? What

921
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: does it look like when you have seven nights seven

922
00:43:59,120 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: months of.

923
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: Bad I mean, like if you notice, like I did

924
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: this my company kernel, we built this brain interface, this

925
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: wearable e fhimri, and we were measuring the effects of

926
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: my brain of willpower with deep sleep and without deep sleep.

927
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: So with deep sleep, my willpower was significantly high. Without

928
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: deep sleep it significantly dropped. And so like if the

929
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: next day, after deep sleep, you're trying to decide do

930
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: you eat the brown or not, do you work out

931
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: or not? Do you have a drink or not? Like, right,

932
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: the chances of you caving in that moment are significantly

933
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: higher if you've not had deep sleep. So then it

934
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: has this cascade effect. So if you don't sleep, then

935
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 2: you're also going to this bad thing, which also leads

936
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: to poor sleep, which also leads to doing more bad things.

937
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: So it has this domino effect where it really cements

938
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: bad habits and it becomes harder for you to come

939
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: out from underneath it of actually making meaningful change.

940
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 1: I can so relate to that idly again, I see

941
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: myself craving sugars when I've had bad sleep exactly, And

942
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: when I haven't and I've worked out and everything, I

943
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: feel great, Yes, And as soon as a bad night sleep,

944
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: the next I know, all I want is some sugar

945
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: and stay anyway to get through. And you're so right,

946
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: it's just a repeating cycle exactly.

947
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: It just devastates your willpower and like all these other

948
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: cascading things. And so that's why, like I think in

949
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: even like five or ten years, I think that health

950
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: is gonna it will become the zeitgeist. And I think

951
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: we'll look back and we'll be like, what, like we

952
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: used to just sleep depart ourselves and we had no

953
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: idea what it was doing for these follow on effects

954
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: like I wanted to Actually, what I like to do

955
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: is tie sleep to IQ. You don't mess with someone's IQ, right, Like,

956
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: if you can show that IQ drops post a bad

957
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: night's sleep, it basically decimates these ideas of like genius

958
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 2: person does blank without sleep. So the ultimate argument is data.

959
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: So it's the study I want to do is take

960
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 2: these patterns, measure IQ throughout the day, and if you

961
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: can show that drop, like there's very few things that

962
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: will be more effective than showing that you basically become

963
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: dumb when you don't sleep.

964
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna have to find a way

965
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: of convincing people. Yeah that sleeps a good investment. And

966
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: it's hard, right because it almost feels like I think

967
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: we don't look at a part that part of our

968
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: health as something we can be good at. Yes, and

969
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: that's why your whole idea or becoming a professional sleeper,

970
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: like I think we do think about, oh I want

971
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: to be a professional runner, I could be a professional bodybuilder, Like,

972
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: these are parts of our health that becoming good at

973
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: seems aspirational exactly. But becoming a good sleeper, or even

974
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: becoming a good meditator to some degree, aren't seen as

975
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: professional accomplishments or pursuits because they don't have this competition,

976
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: and nor should it be a competition. I don't think

977
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: it needs to be. But this idea of competing against yourself,

978
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: which is what a sleep score is, yes, seems like

979
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: the healthiest way.

980
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: To do it, exactly. I did this as well with

981
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: so when this endeavor went viral, people were confused, and

982
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: so I got a lot of name calling. So people

983
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 2: be like, you're an eccentric billionaire, rich Patrick Bateman, Prometheus,

984
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: you know, like all the possible things they could call me.

985
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: And so they were just confused. And so I say, like, okay,

986
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: Lebron James spends one point five million dollars a year

987
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: on his health, right and you see him play in

988
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: the court. You're like, good job, Lebron, Like you're doing

989
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,479
Speaker 2: a good job. But someone like myself, if you've worked

990
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: really hard at health and wellness, I'm weird in an

991
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: outcast and should be an eccentric. And so I had

992
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 2: to clarify for people that actually I'm a new category.

993
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 2: And I came up with this idea that I'm a

994
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: professional rejuvenation athlete. It's a new sport, it's a new game.

995
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: And they created a leaderboard so looked at speed of aging.

996
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: So there's a clock inside of our body that tells

997
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: you how fast or how slow you're aging. And then

998
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: I said, all right, world, let's compete, because right now

999
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 2: you have like all these health gurus who are saying

1000
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: like do this, do that, but how do you know

1001
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: what thing works? And so I was like, all right,

1002
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: just show us your data. So now we have a

1003
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: liderboard and so same thing. Just like a professional sleeper,

1004
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: there's now a professional Reuvenian athlete and we have a

1005
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 2: lider board. People compete, So it's like it helps humans

1006
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: understand what the game is and how to win and

1007
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: how score points.

1008
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think we underestimate how much we do

1009
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: function like athletes. Like athletes are playing or four big

1010
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: games a week if you're playing basketball, if you're playing soccer,

1011
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: it's probably like two to three American football. I don't know,

1012
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: maybe it's a game a week or a couple of

1013
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: games a week. But it's like we don't realize, like

1014
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: that tough conversation at work, that presentation at work, that bed,

1015
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: that sale, like whatever, it is, like all of that

1016
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: is taxing us in a different way. Like we're not

1017
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: pushing our bodies that far, but we are pushing our brains,

1018
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 1: We are pushing our guts, we are pushing our minds.

1019
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: And I wanted to talk to you a bit about

1020
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 1: food because you brought up a few interesting things. They're

1021
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 1: about eating that much earlier before bed. But I wanted

1022
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: to start with the low protein. So I'm vegan too,

1023
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: so that's why I was listening to So I was

1024
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: like I'm vegan to measure caloric intake, but hearing you

1025
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: talk about being low protein, that's something I'm always told

1026
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: to do the opposite for, So walk me through that.

1027
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your protein intake?

1028
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: So I've been told or I've been told to try

1029
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: and do like my body weight, right, and so that's

1030
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: impossible for me. My gut doesn't not enjoyed that, And

1031
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: so as I tried to increase my protein intake, I

1032
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: found that it was harder and heavier on my gut.

1033
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: If I'm honest right now, I'm probably doing like eighty

1034
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: grams of protein a day, and that's good if I

1035
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: get there like realistically and my gut can handle that.

1036
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: Whereas I saw my gut health struggling as I tried

1037
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: to get to one hundred and twenty grams of protein

1038
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty.

1039
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm in the same range. So I'm roughly

1040
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 2: one twenty so I weigh one seventy four. Yeah, And

1041
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 2: so I say that's low protein. So it sounds like

1042
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: for where you're at, that's about where you're at. But

1043
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 2: most men I know are typically in like the two

1044
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: hundred and two fifty range. They have an idea that

1045
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 2: just there's no upper bound of too much protein and

1046
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: so they just pound it. And so, yeah, I guess

1047
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 2: my one twenty is generally speaking, on the lower side

1048
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 2: of how most men think about protein assumption, right, especially

1049
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 2: with an hour every day working out, it's like a

1050
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 2: really rigorous schedule, so most people just assume you have

1051
00:49:59,320 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 2: to have more.

1052
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm vegan, I work out an hour every day.

1053
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, just when I was being told to eat

1054
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: like one hundred and sixty hundred and seventy grands of protein,

1055
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't go beyond one hundred. I was like, my

1056
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: body just does not like it. Yeah, and I'm about

1057
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: to destroy my gut to try and get a protein goal.

1058
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: But then my gut help's going to suffer.

1059
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So we look at it. So we say, like, basically,

1060
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: you can look up blood biomarkers and say, because once

1061
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: you get too much protein it has a negative effect

1062
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: on the body, you can tease out those biomarkers. But

1063
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: then we've used MRI to say what is my total

1064
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 2: muscle mass, what is my fat, you know, liver fat

1065
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,479
Speaker 2: like throughout So for example, on my latest MRI scan,

1066
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 2: I'm in the top one percent for ideal muscle and

1067
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: fat and so by every marker, and then my cardiovascular fitness,

1068
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 2: I've top one point five percent of eighteen year olds.

1069
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: So like that's the end point. So if you say

1070
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: what is the protein intake, it's not solely based upon

1071
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: a dietary recommendation. It's like what is happening in the body,

1072
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 2: and what is my muscle status, what is my cardiovastrostatus,

1073
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 2: what is my energy? And so like those the endpoints

1074
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: where again you move away from story and you move

1075
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 2: to data and let data resolve the debate.

1076
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: What's what's your body five percentage right now?

1077
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: Around ten?

1078
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: Okay? And it was that a goal you had.

1079
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 2: It was like an approximate goal, but we were really

1080
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 2: trying to say, if you're taking every organ in the body,

1081
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: we're trying to make every organ in my body age eighteen.

1082
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: That's kind of a ridiculous idea in this moment, but

1083
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 2: it may not be in five or ten or fifteen years.

1084
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 2: We've been successful in slowing down my speed of aging

1085
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 2: and then reversing the biological age of semi organs, not

1086
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: all like, for example, my left ear. It's really this

1087
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: methodical progress to say, can you measure age and then

1088
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 2: move the organ back.

1089
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: And from a diet perspective, what helps you get to

1090
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: age eighteen?

1091
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've tried to construct a perfect diet, so every

1092
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: single calorie I consume has a specific objective if it

1093
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 2: doesn't achieve a goal, Like we've basically tried to just

1094
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: stack superfoods across the board. And so there's nothing I

1095
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: eat which is like cool or fun or culturally in.

1096
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: It has to have rigorous scientific evidence and we have

1097
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: to measure in the body that's actually working. And so yeah,

1098
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: I eat a lot of broccoli, cauliflower, lentils, pea protein, hemp, protein, berries, nuts, seeds.

1099
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: Could you walk me through your exact meals like a

1100
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: rough day, because I'm going to try mirror these meals.

1101
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so my first meal the day is called super

1102
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: veggie and it's a broccoli, cauliflower, black, lentils, ginger, garlic. Yeah,

1103
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 2: that's the first mill, and the second mill is called

1104
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: nutty pudding, which is macadamia nuts, walnuts, flax seed, pomegranate juice,

1105
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: some berries and p and hemp protein. And the third

1106
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: mill the day varies every day, so it's like some

1107
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: vegetables some berry nuts seed, but a total of two thousand,

1108
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 2: five hundred calories. And then I do one tablespoon of

1109
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 2: extra version olive oil with each mill so I do

1110
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: three tablespoons a day. Yeah exactly, yeah raw, so I

1111
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 2: never cooked with it. And then I do college in peptides.

1112
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: So that's the only thing that's non vegan is the

1113
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: collagen peptides, and it's two thousand, two hundredfe Oh. They

1114
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 2: also do some cocoa, one hundred percent pure cocoa, six

1115
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: grams a day, and then I take around fifty pills.

1116
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 2: So there's no diet, no vigan diet, no carnival diet

1117
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 2: can satisfy the body's entire needs. So you have to

1118
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 2: supplement if you want to be ideal, and then if

1119
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: you want to be on the frontier of like really

1120
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: slowing down your aging and robustly addressing the body's needs,

1121
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: you need to supplement. Some things just cannot be acquired

1122
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 2: through through diet, and so these are like this is

1123
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: just scientific fact. It's very hard to have this conversation.

1124
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: Like the moment you bring up diet, people just go crazy,

1125
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 2: like war breaks out between the vegans and the carnivores,

1126
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 2: between this and that. It's just so I just I

1127
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 2: don't talk about it much because people get so triggered

1128
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: by it, and so I just try to like say,

1129
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: like do your thing, like whatever it is, do your thing,

1130
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 2: just measure and then follow your market.

1131
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: It's like no processed foods, no packaged foods, that you're

1132
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: not eating anything out of a packet scene.

1133
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean actually all blueprint food. So basically when

1134
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 2: I started doing this, we started measuring everything I was consuming,

1135
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: all foods, all supplements. And as you might expect, these

1136
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 2: supplement labels are not accurate, companies are not truthful, and

1137
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,959
Speaker 2: the food is terrifyingly toxic. Like we know the food

1138
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: systems thirty but I had this general idea that there

1139
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: must be some system in place in America. They're like

1140
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: watching out for us. Not true. So unless the food

1141
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 2: is killing you on the spot, there's like this gray

1142
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 2: area of like kind of just do whatever. And so

1143
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: we're finding these foods that I was eating, we're very toxic.

1144
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 2: And so we basically spent the past year sourcing food

1145
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: from all of the entire world, the very best foods,

1146
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: lowest levels of toxins, and so we've made it out

1147
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: into a product. People are like, I want to do this,

1148
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: but it's way too complicated. So we just made it

1149
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 2: easy for everybody. But it's like, I think we've created

1150
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: the most scientifically robust product out there, plus the cleanest

1151
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 2: all third party lab results posted.

1152
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: So wait, what can people buy? Yeah?

1153
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: So this is my company blueprint?

1154
00:54:59,120 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1155
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 2: So yeah. When the company went viral diluin this endeavorment viral,

1156
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 2: people are like, love it. I want to do it,

1157
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: but it's way too hard, Like no way can I

1158
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 2: put this all together? And so I thought, Okay, I'll

1159
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 2: do it. So we put together the whole thing in

1160
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: this low cost, easy to consume package olive oil, protein

1161
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: eight pills a day, and then a bunch of other stuff.

1162
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 2: But we're trying to basically say, like you can get

1163
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 2: every calorie you need from us, got it? And so

1164
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 2: we're trying to do most scientific scientifically rigorous and cleanest

1165
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 2: and then transparent like here the lab results. So I

1166
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: think we've built the best thing in the entire world.

1167
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: And you don't think that's different from getting your calories

1168
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: from whole foods and real foods.

1169
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 2: You can Yeah, so I eat whole foods down.

1170
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: That right, right, right, so this is more of like

1171
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 1: a supplementary package. It's not a replacement meals.

1172
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so like protein. The protein is a

1173
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: replacement mill. Yeah, it's like you need to get P

1174
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 2: and MP protein somewhere.

1175
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. And what does your supplement intake look like? What

1176
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: I You said fifty pills? I do.

1177
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the our blooeprint stack has eight. So it's like,

1178
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 2: if you want the best longevity stack in the world,

1179
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: we've put together eight pills.

1180
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: And what do does eight include?

1181
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 2: About sixty two or so health actives. So they're some

1182
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 2: of the best molecules known to anti Asian science for

1183
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 2: the body.

1184
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: Amazing. I can't wait to try it out.

1185
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I brought it here for you to day.

1186
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: Oh very cool. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Yeah,

1187
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: looking forward to it. And wait, so wait, what time

1188
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: are you eating then? Because if you're finishing me at

1189
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: eleven thirty am, what time are your meals?

1190
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: Six am is my first meal and then I finished

1191
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: by eleven to eleven, So you.

1192
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: Eating everything within five and a half hour. What does

1193
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: that do to the.

1194
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: Body so far? The data says it's good. Like if

1195
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 2: you look at my speed of aging or any of

1196
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: the marker in my gut, it seems all fine. So

1197
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: I really this protocol is built around sleep more than

1198
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 2: anything else.

1199
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: Do you have any cheat days or any.

1200
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 2: I don't know one. No. Now, the idea of eating

1201
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 2: a piece of pizza or a whole pizza, or like

1202
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 2: a donut or something just makes me sick because I'm

1203
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 2: going to do it. There'll be like five seconds of

1204
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 2: maybe enjoyment, and then you've got like an entire day

1205
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: of misery. You feel sick, you feel lethargic, your sleep

1206
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: is going like I've just ruined my sleep. I thought

1207
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 2: awful about myself, Like the cost is so high, I

1208
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: just don't want to do it. The other day, I

1209
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 2: ate a potato chip. My friend was like, just have one,

1210
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: and it tasted like gasoline. Like I'm so surprised, Like

1211
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: we're just so normalized this these processed foods. We can

1212
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 2: no longer taste it. But it was just wild to

1213
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: go back in time and experience it new.

1214
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: It is interesting how quickly your taste buds rewire. Yeah,

1215
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: when you kind of disconnect from some of these foods.

1216
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: I've definitely done like long refined sugar free fasts for

1217
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know the longest one I've ever done,

1218
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: but definitely a few months. Yeah, And I feel like

1219
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: after that, as someone who grew up addicted to chocolate,

1220
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: what you were talking about when you grew up in

1221
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: a family where yeah, sodas and drinks, it was like

1222
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: for me, I grew up in a family where all

1223
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: we ate was chocolate all day. And so for me

1224
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: to go back to there are days when I'm like,

1225
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: that does not taste anywhere near as I thought it

1226
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: was good? Is it was going to taste? Something that

1227
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: I loved and adored before has kind of lost it.

1228
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: And you just notice how quickly do you have any

1229
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: day on how quick it takes to rewire your taste once?

1230
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: Because I feel like that is such a interesting feeling

1231
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: because now it's not like you even fighting it, Like

1232
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: you said, when you taste you're like, god, I didn't

1233
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: even want that. That's a really fascinating place to be at.

1234
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: So have you seen any day on how quick we

1235
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: can rewire our taste works?

1236
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: Within days?

1237
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: Days?

1238
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1239
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: Wow?

1240
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: Is very very fast.

1241
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: Right.

1242
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 2: That's that's the thing about being human, is like if

1243
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 2: you take any given circumstance and you say, like, what

1244
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 2: do I abhor? What do I What am I repulsed by?

1245
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: What kind do I find unimaginable? What? You know, take

1246
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 2: any kind of vector or and you imagine that that

1247
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 2: is an impossible thing for you to be or do,

1248
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 2: and then if you actually got in that circumstance and

1249
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 2: you did it for a few days, you may find

1250
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 2: yourself renormalized to the exact thing you just found unimaginable.

1251
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 2: Like we humans can adapt to anything and almost instantaneously.

1252
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 2: It's just crazy and so like most of the time,

1253
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 2: the realization is just like we're trapped in this idea

1254
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 2: that we found how somehow found truth and that anything

1255
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: else is non true is not truth. But like it's

1256
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: like we can adapt to any reality like that. It's

1257
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 2: like we've seen that again and again.

1258
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: So do you Are you someone who gets stressed if

1259
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: you walk into the room and you sense that the

1260
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: moistures off or the air qualities off, or you ate

1261
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: something like, how do you react to that?

1262
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 2: I've had enough cycle times now with measurement where I

1263
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 2: can feel things intuitively. I can feel my HRV. I

1264
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 2: absolutely know my heart rate at any given moment. Yeah,

1265
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: so I definitely my sensory awareness has dramatically increased.

1266
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: And then how do you react to that because you

1267
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: can't control the humidity in every room or wherever you are, for.

1268
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 2: Example, Yeah it's okay, yeah.

1269
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, So you're not you're not. You don't

1270
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,439
Speaker 1: you're not like, oh my god, like this is gonna

1271
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: set me Like, you don't you don't have that reaction.

1272
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 2: I'm playing the power laws. So that's why, like last week,

1273
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 2: when being with friends, I wanted to try and new think,

1274
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 2: go to bed early, get your deep sleep, stay up

1275
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 2: and have fun. If you go back to bed, like

1276
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 2: it's okay. So really trying to be adaptive.

1277
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: So I love that. Let's talk about that because I

1278
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: think that what's interesting is to live a highly intentional life,

1279
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: but then to be adaptable and know where the wiggle

1280
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: room is. Yeah, that seems like a great way to live,

1281
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: and it also seems like something that isn't usually possible.

1282
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: What we usually see is and this isn't just to

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01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: do with health, but with anything. We usually see people

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01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: who are control freaks. We're like, everything has to be

1285
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: super controlled, and as soon as one control is off,

1286
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: they freak out. And that's not a great way to live.

1287
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: Whether it's business, health, marriage, whatever it may be. Or

1288
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: you see the opposite where someone has no rules whatsoever,

1289
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: They just do what they want when they want, and

1290
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: life kind of goes on and we all know where

1291
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: that ends up. So how have you managed to create

1292
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: that mindset that allows you to have space, have time

1293
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: and then live a really regimented, discipline life because I

1294
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: like that a lot. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean my mentality is that I'm really motivated by

1296
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 2: being respected by those that exist in the twenty fifth century.

1297
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 2: Like when they read about this time and place, I

1298
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: would like them to say that I saw something that

1299
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 2: was invisible that was incredibly hard to do, that the

1300
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 2: predictable pushback from the status quo was pretty violent, and

1301
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 2: so I'm really trying to demonstrate the future of being human.

1302
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be normal. I'm not trying to

1303
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 2: bow the status quo. I'm not trying to fit in.

1304
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to soothe. I'm trying to say the

1305
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: speed at which technology is traveling, we're basically probably evolving

1306
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 2: like you know, five, ten, twenty, thirty, forty fifty years

1307
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 2: equivalent in months of time, Like our speed of evolution

1308
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:19,959
Speaker 2: is increasing rapidly and so I'm trying to anticipate where

1309
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 2: we want to be and not be a lagging indicator

1310
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 2: of status quo. And so in my mindset, I really

1311
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 2: don't care what anyone right now who lives has to

1312
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 2: say about this. I don't. I just really am entirely

1313
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 2: in that future headspace. And so that really I find

1314
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 2: to be liberating, because like so much of our society,

1315
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 2: you're tethered to social expectation and the punishment of what

1316
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 2: a company's violating that expectation, and I just found it.

1317
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 2: I had to come up with a mental model to

1318
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 2: like try to fully explore this without that tethering.

1319
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: Are you are you scared of dying? No, what's your

1320
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: relationship like with death? What are your thoughts about?

1321
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 2: For me, it's kind of an interesting conversation because we

1322
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 2: humans do not know what happens after death. No one knows. Now,

1323
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 2: you can imagine what happens, you can tell a story

1324
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 2: about what happens, you can hypothesize what happens, like all

1325
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 2: those things are true, but it's an unknowable thing. And

1326
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 2: yet that doesn't stop us from speaking with unbridled confidence

1327
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 2: on what will be. And to me, it really shows

1328
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 2: that we humans, we don't want to die, like desperately,

1329
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 2: we do not want to die, and we want to

1330
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 2: try to address this omnipresent concern of what exists after life?

1331
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 2: What is death? And so I try to be very

1332
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 2: sober minded to say like, I don't know, and no

1333
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 2: human knows. Therefore, the thing I value most is that

1334
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 2: that existence is the highest virtue. Whereas before be when

1335
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 2: death is always inevitable, you just naturally soothe yourself with

1336
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 2: these stories. And what I'm saying now is like, actually,

1337
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 2: we might be able to do something about this that

1338
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 2: we never could before, and therefore we can have a

1339
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 2: reimagination of what existence truly is.

1340
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the Eastern perspectives always fascinated me with how

1341
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: our consciousness is eternal and the body is temporary, and

1342
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: therefore that desire to live forever comes from this, yeah,

1343
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: very innate truth that we are eternal. We're not limited

1344
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: in the way the body is limited to some degree,

1345
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: I guess. And it's always been fascinating to me how

1346
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: the desire to live is a very natural one, actually, yeah,

1347
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: and it's uniform, Yeah, but it's almost one that we

1348
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: are scared to ask. There's a lot of fear around

1349
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: even talking about death. It feels morbid. It feels when

1350
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 1: it's the most it's you know, guaranteed and the most

1351
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: common thing that will it's the number one thing that

1352
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: will happen to everyone who's worn.

1353
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 2: So like if you tell, like, let's just take an

1354
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 2: entrepreneur and say, like, if you show up to do

1355
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 2: this thing and you're just present and do some minimal

1356
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 2: amount of work, you're going to become a billionaire, Like

1357
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 2: that's the prize. But in reality, you have to be

1358
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 2: an entrepreneur. It's like to defy all odds and work

1359
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 2: a crazy amount to achieve some level of success. And

1360
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: I feel like the death narrative that we have a

1361
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 2: species is it's kind of the same ofs like you

1362
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 2: get this afterlife with this minimal set of effort. And

1363
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: so basically it sacks people of inviting them to work

1364
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 2: hard for existence because it's already guaranteed. And so to me,

1365
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 2: it has this really negative consequence where it's like, oh,

1366
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 2: taken care of. Therefore, you can have poor health habits,

1367
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 2: you can risk your life, you can do these things.

1368
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 2: So I think we're really on this bigger time scale.

1369
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 2: We're wrapped up in this moment, where are we should

1370
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 2: be working a lot harder and a care a lot

1371
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 2: more about our existence, about the planet's health, about our kids' help,

1372
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 2: about societal's health. And we're lacks of daisical because we

1373
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 2: have some sort of idea that somehow in the afterlife

1374
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 2: things are sorted. So I think it really weakens us

1375
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 2: as a species.

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01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: From the point of view of data. What's different about

1377
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: what men need to do for longevity and what women

1378
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 1: need to do for longevity.

1379
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 2: We have much more in common than we do differences.

1380
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 2: So a lot of people immediately jump to They'll see

1381
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 2: my protocol and they'll say, well, certainly there has to

1382
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 2: be personalizations that you know are done from you versus

1383
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 2: me or whatever. And I would draw their attention back

1384
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 2: to say, we have much more in common than you think,

1385
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 2: like instead of saying, like, what are the major commonalities,

1386
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 2: they immediately go to differences. And so what we have

1387
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 2: in common is sleep works great for men and women, right,

1388
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 2: and eating vegetables right also great for men and women.

1389
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 2: And again you can look at the data, exercise great,

1390
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 2: and so there's nuances on the exercise of like around

1391
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 2: a woman's cycle. So yes, there's nuances been generally speaking,

1392
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 2: the basics of health of life. Health practices are good

1393
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 2: for both males and females, and so then the nuances

1394
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 2: like you have a protocol I've published publicly, there's nuances

1395
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 2: of a woman's cycle what to do around that for

1396
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 2: both food and exercise. So so yeah, those are details

1397
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 2: I've listed out, But generally speaking, the benefits are in

1398
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 2: the power laws of health and wellness of getting the

1399
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 2: basics right and less so the tail things which people

1400
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 2: focus on.

1401
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and how does someone lower their inflammation which is

1402
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: known as like the silent killer.

1403
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 2: So my body, for example, has barely levels of any

1404
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 2: detectable inflammation. It's almost entirely gone.

1405
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: I want that. That sounds amazing.

1406
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you know your inflammation level?

1407
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: I don't know my level recently, I've got a blood

1408
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: test coming up again, so I need to check it

1409
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 1: out with Darshan. So but yeah, it's always been one

1410
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: of those things that's been hard for me to manage.

1411
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, interesting. Yeah, so you're looking probably at your

1412
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 2: hs CRP. Yeah yeah, so yeah, it has to do

1413
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: with it. A lot is sleep. Yes, Like again like

1414
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 2: back to the basics of life and then stress Yeah,

1415
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 2: so it kind of always comes back to the basics.

1416
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what are people getting wrong in their daily

1417
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: schedule with stress that they could easily change to kind

1418
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 1: of lower that because, like we talked about earlier, not

1419
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: everyone's in a position to take care of their own schedule,

1420
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 1: build the thing that may be work in a job

1421
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 1: in a certain way. Like what are some things people

1422
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: can do to manage that throughout the day.

1423
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, first is sleep. So, like sleep is a superpower

1424
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 2: to manage stress. I know that when I'm well rested,

1425
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 2: if a stressful event happens, it just kind of I

1426
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 2: can brush it off. If I'm not well rested, it

1427
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 2: feels very painful and I react very strongly. So sleep

1428
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 2: is probably the most powerful thing to manage stress. Too,

1429
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 2: is you know, if you're exercising and feel well, also

1430
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 2: lowers like stress response than a balanced diet every single

1431
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 2: yea the same stuff, like you get those power laws

1432
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 2: in place. Agree, a lot of people like when they

1433
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 2: can't get those power OUs in place, they want to

1434
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 2: take a pill. And so I realize that's how a

1435
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 2: lot of people think. I do want to urge people

1436
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 2: like get those habits in place. They are the most robust,

1437
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 2: highly performing things you can do.

1438
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: What does your one hour workout look like?

1439
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,480
Speaker 2: It's cardio, weights, balance and flexibility.

1440
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, very balanced.

1441
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah Yeah.

1442
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: What I love about everything you're saying is that it's

1443
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: things that it's almost like some of it, we know,

1444
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: some of it, we're aware of the biggest challenge I

1445
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 1: guess when it comes to all of this is discipline.

1446
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: Like discipline, if there was one word, what word would

1447
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 1: you choose? If there's one thing that you said, is

1448
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: that the core of everything you've.

1449
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 2: Talked about today, it's systems.

1450
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: Systems.

1451
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like if you design, if you say, like

1452
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 2: I go to bed at this time of day every

1453
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 2: single day, you build your life around it. If you

1454
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 2: say I work out in the morning right and wake

1455
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 2: up every day and never change it. So the thing

1456
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 2: that most people do is they leave the decision to

1457
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 2: their willpower. They say do I feel like it or not?

1458
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 2: And then in that moment, it's like, now I'm gonna

1459
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 2: skip today because like I've been working really hard. I

1460
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 2: need to rest anyways, like you rationalize it in whatever way.

1461
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 2: So just build systems. I basically when I started doing this,

1462
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 2: like and when I came here today, I put your

1463
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 2: address in to my navigation system, and I was like,

1464
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 2: take me there. I didn't like memorize the streets right,

1465
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 2: and so I trusted the algorithm. I had more data

1466
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 2: than I had, and so I proposed this four years ago.

1467
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 2: When I started, I said, can we build an algorithm

1468
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 2: that takes better care of me than I count myself? Like,

1469
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 2: just measure my body, put it into a competitional system

1470
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 2: and pair the science then tell me what to do.

1471
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 2: I wanted to do like navigation for my body, and

1472
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 2: that's what we've done. So I basically I do not

1473
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 2: make decisions in my mind. Yes, the algorithm does all

1474
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 2: the things for me, and so I just like I

1475
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 2: feel like inevitable that we humans will not do this

1476
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 2: weird thing of make decisions on a daily basis of

1477
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 2: what to eat, when exercise would just be done by

1478
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,759
Speaker 2: an algorithm, and we'll be like, this is amazing because

1479
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 2: like it just does what's right for me. I feel amazing.

1480
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 2: I was scared of it before and now it's the

1481
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 2: best thing ever. It's like, it's just inevitable we're going

1482
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 2: to be in that path.

1483
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 1: Now.

1484
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 2: A lot of people when they hear that, they will

1485
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 2: think it's this topic which, like I get it from

1486
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 2: where you're at, but like we have said yes to

1487
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 2: algorithms everywhere, and it's entirely reasonable that we'd say yes

1488
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 2: to our health.

1489
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the system's point is so true. And

1490
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: a big part of systems is focusing on how you

1491
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 1: feel after the system is complete, not before. Yes, Like

1492
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 1: I have the same system. I know what days I

1493
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: work out and what times I work out, and it's

1494
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 1: still hard before one of those days to feel like

1495
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: I really want to do it. Yes, but I know

1496
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 1: for a fact I'm going to feel great. So even

1497
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 1: when I'm in that moment to message and be like,

1498
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 1: oh I don't want to work out today, I know

1499
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to regret that later, Yes, and I'm actually

1500
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: going to appreciate later that I got that workout in

1501
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 1: even when I felt tired, even when I felt sluggish. Yes,

1502
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: that's actually going to be the best time. And so

1503
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: I love the answer of systems, but I think it's

1504
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: kind of programming the mind to be committed to the

1505
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 1: feeling after you complete a system, never how you're going

1506
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: to feel before.

1507
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: That's true, and like I learned this when I was depressed,

1508
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 2: you know, my mind was like, hey, you should commit suicide,

1509
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 2: like life is awful, You're never going to feel a

1510
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 2: hope again. Die and like it was just on repeat

1511
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 2: saying that, and I learned, Like it was the biggest

1512
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 2: breakthrough in my depression was when I learned I am

1513
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 2: not my thoughts such a simple concept, but like you

1514
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 2: see it Land, It's like, Okay, this came from somewhere,

1515
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 2: but it's not me. And so even now, like do

1516
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 2: I want to work out or not, I don't care

1517
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 2: what my brain says. It is an unreliable source of information.

1518
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 2: Systems are a more reliable form information. So like, set

1519
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 2: up your system and like you're saying, do you know

1520
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 2: if you do the system, you're going to be happy,

1521
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 2: And just never trust my mind to tell me what

1522
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 2: I do and don't want to do.

1523
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And what's interesting about that is a lot of

1524
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: people say, well, are you just not ignoring your emotions

1525
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 1: and how you feel? What I find is the opposite,

1526
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 1: that the system makes you better at dealing with any

1527
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: emotion that then comes up exactly right. So it's not

1528
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: that you don't have emotions and you don't have feelings

1529
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 1: and you don't experience stress or anxiety, but the system

1530
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: being in place actually just gave you all of this willpower.

1531
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: Going back to your point, and I think that's where

1532
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: we go wrong, because I think we've kind of got

1533
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: to this place in society where it's like, well, how

1534
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: you feel is the reality is the truth, and it's like, WHOA,

1535
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: If I just listen how I feel all the time,

1536
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 1: I'll probably never do anything that's good for me. I'll

1537
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 1: probably eat lots of stuff that's bad for me, and

1538
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 1: I'll never choose the thing that's right for me, and

1539
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 1: I'll keep doing what's wrong for me because it's easier, exactly,

1540
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 1: and my mind is constantly trying to get me to

1541
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: do what's easier exactly, and what's easier is really good

1542
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 1: for me entirely. Yeah, I find that to be the

1543
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that feels like it's it like what's good

1544
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 1: for me is not easy, and what's easy is not

1545
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: good for me, and what's uncomfortable is probably the right decision,

1546
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: and what's comfortable is probably the wrong decision. What did

1547
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: it take you to program yourself to say yes to

1548
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 1: that algorithm? Like?

1549
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 2: Two things? Like one, when I built my previous company,

1550
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 2: in brain Treamo, we would build version one of our software,

1551
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 2: and then version two and version three we never showed up.

1552
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 2: And the software is like, guys, now I don't feel

1553
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 2: like doing out work today. I'm not going to perform

1554
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 2: Like the software is just performed in its most robust

1555
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 2: way possible. It's very reliable. Now there are bugs and

1556
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 2: we can fix the bug. But then, whereas me as

1557
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 2: a system of intelligence, just like software, I would make

1558
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 2: all the same errors every day, go to bed late,

1559
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 2: eat the wrong foods, maybe have alcohol, like waste time

1560
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 2: on things I didn't want to do, Like I would

1561
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 2: just be this walking disaster of errors and I would

1562
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 2: do the same behaviors every single day. And I thought,

1563
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 2: this is crazy, Like this form of intelligence I can

1564
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 2: just program to be like this great robust intelligence, whereas

1565
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 2: I can't do anything reliable. And I thought, I want

1566
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 2: to build myself in a way where I can reliably

1567
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 2: be robust as an intelligent system. So like this is

1568
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 2: kind of cool, Like we can now can imagine this

1569
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 2: as humans. So I wanted to build systems. And like,

1570
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people will be like that's

1571
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 2: so weird, You're not a computer, But so I get it.

1572
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 2: But I guess like I would say two things. One

1573
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 2: is that when I talk about these things in these terms,

1574
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 2: people will say, but you're not happy, Like I find

1575
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 2: that I find happiness in life and spontaneity like stain

1576
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,759
Speaker 2: up all night, and like they have all these elegant

1577
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 2: explanations about you know why they love to the following things,

1578
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 2: which is fine. So there's like two ways to look

1579
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 2: at this one and say, like what does your health

1580
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 2: look like? What does my health look like? What does

1581
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 2: your happiness look like? And what does my happiness look like?

1582
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: And like, quantitatively, I think this system is superior. Now

1583
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean you have to do a specific thing.

1584
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 2: You can still have flexibility and you can have spotan eighty.

1585
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 2: But generally speaking, people are very reluctant to release the

1586
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 2: status quo of like do they just like do whatever

1587
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 2: they want whenever they want to a more rigorous stance

1588
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:36,679
Speaker 2: of like you can be happier with these systems in place.

1589
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 2: But it's just like I've I've had this conversation so

1590
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: many times. I know, like the deep, deep resistance people

1591
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 2: have to just shut this down. But I'm suggesting, like

1592
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 2: this is really the reality of the future of being human.

1593
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 2: I'm prototyping it right now, and it actually is a

1594
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 2: superior system to whatever we're doing as humans.

1595
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 1: Now, what's holding us back from thinking health can lead

1596
01:15:58,160 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 1: to happiness? God?

1597
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 2: What a good question. Honestly, that that is like a

1598
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 2: bull's eye in capitalism. You're you're fighting for resource accumulation,

1599
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 2: for wealth accumulation, and for status, and you're willing to

1600
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 2: sacrifice everything to achieve that goal because health is not

1601
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 2: the goal, like resource accumulation is a goal. Power is

1602
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 2: a goal. Like you, I guess you can kind of

1603
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 2: map everything back to status, power, sex. Yeah, it's I

1604
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 2: guess it's like the goals the society has and the

1605
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 2: if the imagination is that if existence is the highest virtue,

1606
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 2: like we want to hold onto this with everything we have.

1607
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 2: Those other objectives become secondary considerations but subject to our

1608
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 2: own well being, and we just haven't made that transition yet. Yeah,

1609
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:48,600
Speaker 2: but but yeah, what do you think I.

1610
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 1: Was trying and think about it from from you know,

1611
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: my knowledge base of Eastern literature and philosophy, and it's

1612
01:16:56,200 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: there's there's four archetypes in Eastern philosophy, and they all

1613
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: have different goals within a society, and one archetype aims

1614
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: for knowledge, one aims for power and control and influence,

1615
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: one aims for resources and wealth, and one aims for

1616
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 1: comfort and stability and security. And I think that in

1617
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: times like these you become pretty much only two of them,

1618
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,799
Speaker 1: which is you either aim for security, stability, and comfort,

1619
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 1: or you aim for resources, accumulation, power and control. And

1620
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 1: the thirst and pursuit for growth and evolution and improvement

1621
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 1: has become kind of bottom of the pile. It's the

1622
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: hardest and it's the most powerful, but it requires so much,

1623
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 1: And like you said, because we've been wired to either

1624
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 1: want to remain the same or want to achieve in

1625
01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: a very external way growth something unseen. Right like right now,

1626
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 1: as I see you, I can't see that you're eighteen

1627
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: years old. I can't see that you're any of these things.

1628
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 1: And so then I'm like, well, that's not important then,

1629
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 1: because life's based on what I see. Yeah, And that's

1630
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 1: obviously not a healthy way to live or the right

1631
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: way to live, or maybe it is for some people,

1632
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 1: but it's definitely not an accurate way to live because

1633
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 1: what you see is not necessarily what's true. And so

1634
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: I think we've become a very visible surface level society

1635
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 1: and growth and focus and discipline or systems are such

1636
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 1: unseen parts. It's almost like the idea that everyone wants

1637
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 1: a successful business, but people may not want to do

1638
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 1: the work to build a successful business, right, and so

1639
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 1: the work is unseen. The foundations of the building are unseen,

1640
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: the bottom of the iceberg is unseen, and we still

1641
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 1: are figuring that out.

1642
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think yeah. To build on yours R,

1643
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 2: I'd say like, when death is inevitable, humans choose games

1644
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 2: within the selection options, so you can pursue those four archetypes.

1645
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 2: If death doesn't is not inevitable, it changes the underlying

1646
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 2: structure of society. Everything changes. And that's my primary hypothesis

1647
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 2: is that's what this moment is about. Like that is

1648
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 2: the only thing happening right now for humans. Is like

1649
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 2: we knew we're going to going to die before, and

1650
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 2: now there's this open question of will we be the

1651
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 2: first generation to not die? If that's true, everything we've

1652
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 2: imagined we care about changes.

1653
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: And I'm really happy that you're putting yourself out there

1654
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 1: as someone who's not trying to appease or not trying

1655
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 1: to keep the status quo, because I feel like when

1656
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 1: we see human brilliance in sport, music, drama, film, TV,

1657
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. The truth is we love it,

1658
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,759
Speaker 1: but we can never be it or do it because

1659
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 1: there is a certain distance between you doing what Lebron

1660
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 1: James does. And yes, there may be a distance between

1661
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: what we can do and what you're doing to the

1662
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 1: extreme and the top one percent. But the thing is,

1663
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 1: the possibility of us getting closer to that is probably higher. Yeah,

1664
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: so everyone's trying to get good at golf. Yeah, chances

1665
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 1: of you being Tiger Woods is pretty impossible. Yeah, but

1666
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 1: for us to actually reverse aging is probably more likely

1667
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: and helpful to us in the long run as well.

1668
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone, Yeah, if you look at this from like

1669
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 2: the biggest time skills, like a quick review of history.

1670
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,719
Speaker 2: Buddha was like, hey, like there's some suffering with life,

1671
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 2: and the best way to approach this is to detach yourself.

1672
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,560
Speaker 2: You know, this all a ful path. And then Confucius

1673
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 2: had this idea of familiar relationships within community. Mohammad said,

1674
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 2: we should submit to God. Jesus said, I am the

1675
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 2: son of God. Adam Smith said, there's this invisible hand

1676
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 2: of markets and capitalism and these systems that can emerge

1677
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 2: and then America was like we the people, and car

1678
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 2: Marx was like, actually it's class warfare. And you know,

1679
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:08,839
Speaker 2: it's like, we have these big ideologies that have shaped

1680
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 2: our reality, but really humanity is run by a very

1681
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 2: small number of things, right, political structures, economic structures, ideological structures.

1682
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 2: And in this moment, we're experiencing a radical change of technology.

1683
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 2: And when that happens, we humans want to find things

1684
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 2: that are useful to our objectives, and so we say like, hey, capitalism,

1685
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 2: can you help out? Hey democracy, Hey Christianity, Hey Islam.

1686
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:37,919
Speaker 2: Like we kind of search and say who has answers?

1687
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 2: And right now, every system society has fails to answer

1688
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 2: the fundamental question what do we do as a species?

1689
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:49,759
Speaker 2: Like what do we do as individuals? Like when AI

1690
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 2: is emergent, when we're building superintelligence, what do I do?

1691
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 2: And what do we do? And no existing structure can

1692
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 2: answer that. That's true, Like you look throughout history, these

1693
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 2: theologies largely emerge in response to technological change. It happens,

1694
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 2: and we say, like we need help with a new

1695
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 2: ideological structure. And so that's what don't Die is is

1696
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 2: don't die as basically meant to answer, like be the

1697
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 2: answer and that's why I think it can become on

1698
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 2: par with the major ideologies in a few years time,

1699
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,879
Speaker 2: that this is the new way we structure society.

1700
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brian, thank you so much for your time today.

1701
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 1: It's been really illuminating and fascinating to talk to you.

1702
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 1: And I'm hoping that we get to hang out more

1703
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 1: because definitely share a lot of values and share a

1704
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 1: lot of desires for humanity and for each other, for ourselves,

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01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 1: and so I hope I get to learn a lot

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Speaker 1: more from you, truly. Yeah, I'm very excited to learn

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01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 1: from you. We end every On Purpose episode with a

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01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 1: final five. These questions have to be answered in one

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01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: word to one sentence maximum. Although I know I'm going

1710
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:54,719
Speaker 1: to break the rules because I'm fascinated, but Brian Johnson,

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01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 1: these are your final five. The first question is what

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01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 1: is the best health longevity advice you've ever heard or received?

1713
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 2: Build habits?

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01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 1: Second question, what is the worst health of longevity advice

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01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: you've ever had or received?

1716
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 2: Cheat Days?

1717
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 1: Why a cheat day is bad for us?

1718
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 2: They teach you bad habits. They are they inflict damage

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01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 2: upon the body, They set unreal estic expectations. It's a

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01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 2: bad mimetic all the way.

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Speaker 1: Down Question number three, What do you do for fun?

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01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 2: I love outdoor adventure, so I drove a dog sled

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01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 2: in the Arctic, I raced in the Moroccan desert. I

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01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 2: went to a volcano in Iceland. So I'm rich with

1725
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,759
Speaker 2: irony where I'm the most don't die person in human history,

1726
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 2: and I also love to play in adventure.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I'm going to add a three B.

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Speaker 1: Do you drink coffee?

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01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 2: I do not drink coffee.

1730
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 1: Why don't you drink coffee?

1731
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 2: My emotions and intellect now are so steady from high

1732
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 2: quality sleep and a good diet and routine exercise that

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01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 2: anything that creates a roller coaster of change I avoid.

1734
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 2: And so I don't do caffeine. I don't do nicotine,

1735
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 2: no stimulants, and my mood is just stable all day long.

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Speaker 2: It's beautiful.

1737
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 1: Should people avoid drinking coffee?

1738
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 2: Some people do very well with it. So I'm just

1739
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 2: sensitive to caffeine, So I think a lot of people

1740
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 2: do well. Do your thing again all my responses, do

1741
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 2: you and follow the data?

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01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 1: Question number four. I recently invested in a company called

1743
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 1: function Health because I was upset about the idea that

1744
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 1: getting great data was hard, and I wanted to make

1745
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 1: it more accessible to lots of people, And so there

1746
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 1: are tens of thousands of people that are using Functional Health.

1747
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,640
Speaker 1: Now I have access to two hundred data sets that

1748
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,759
Speaker 1: they didn't have before through a blood test made really simple.

1749
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 1: What other great data tools do you believe in that

1750
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 1: you recommend to other people to get more data because

1751
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 1: I think a lot of this is because you just

1752
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 1: never know exactly.

1753
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we with Blueprint, we have I think the most

1754
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 2: robust measurement protocol in the world. It's blood, it's your

1755
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:08,640
Speaker 2: speed of aging, eleven organ ages, full body scan, and microplastics.

1756
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 2: So it's basically a measurement profile that gives you the

1757
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 2: same value as like a twenty five thousand dollars executive

1758
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 2: physical and a fraction of the price. So we've tried

1759
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 2: to make full body measurement the most affordable and best

1760
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:20,719
Speaker 2: in the world.

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01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: Fifth and final question we asked is to have a

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01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 1: guest who's ever been on the show? If you could

1763
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 1: create one law that everyone in the world had to follow,

1764
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 1: what would it be.

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01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 2: To not follow laws? Ah?

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01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 1: Which ones are? Which laws? Are you taking out all laws? Wait? Wait?

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01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 1: How far does that? How far does that go.

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01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 2: To reframe it from don't do to how to, So

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01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 2: society would be instructions on how to. We would have

1770
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:54,640
Speaker 2: enough alignment within us and among us that not do

1771
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 2: would be a thing of the past because we just

1772
01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:01,719
Speaker 2: wouldn't be motivated to do bad behaviors to Selp and others,

1773
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 2: and it would be a relic of the past that

1774
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 2: we'd be amazed looking back that humans did things that

1775
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 2: would be on that would be harmful to sell for others.

1776
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 1: You host Don't Die dinners. You've had a friend and

1777
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 1: guest of the show, Kim Kardashian at one of the dinners.

1778
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,799
Speaker 1: What does it don't de dinner look like? What happens

1779
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 1: at these dinners?

1780
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 2: We can't tell you. Yeah, crazy things. Yeah. People who

1781
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:33,759
Speaker 2: attend will say it's the most consequential conversation of their life.

1782
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 2: So we spend two hours. We do a bunch of

1783
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 2: age tests to just introduce the idea that you can

1784
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 2: measure biological age. Then we serve everybody food, and then

1785
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:47,560
Speaker 2: we have a two hour discussion led by five thought experiments,

1786
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:52,679
Speaker 2: and everybody participates, So everybody talks, everybody engages. I'm the moderator,

1787
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 2: and so it's very snappy, but people leave. Even years later,

1788
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 2: people still measure music. I just can't stop thinking about

1789
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 2: these ideas. So it's really a transformative time together.

1790
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 1: So you do get to eat.

1791
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 2: I don't eat everyone else my guests, I don't.

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01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing, Brian, Thank you so much for tuning in.

1793
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 1: Please recommend where our audience should find you, where you'd

1794
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: like them to discover your work so that they can

1795
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 1: get more day, to get more insight and transform their health.

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01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm on all social platforms and Blueprint provides the

1797
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 2: supplements nutrition health. My endeavor is about the future of

1798
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,560
Speaker 2: the human race. I'm trying to do a world a

1799
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 2: solid in providing every calorie, every test for the best

1800
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 2: health entire world. So if I interest you, great, If not,

1801
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 2: my objective primarily is the future of the species.

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01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: Brian, thank you so much. Thanks appreciate it. If this

1803
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:49,480
Speaker 1: year you're trying to live longer, live happier, live healthier,

1804
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,799
Speaker 1: go and check out my conversation with the world's biggest

1805
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: longevity doctor, Peter Attia on how to slow down aging

1806
01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 1: and why your emotional health is directly impacting your physical health.

1807
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 1: Acknowledge that there is surprisingly little known about the relationship

1808
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: between nutrition and health, and people are going to be

1809
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 1: shocked to hear that, because I think most people think

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01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 1: the exact opposite