1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffer, joined as always 3 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West Hodkowitz. Were coming to you 4 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: here from our studio at lambeau Field and West. It's 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: been a few days, but the Packers last Thursday night 6 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: not their sixth victory of the season, thirty to seventeen 7 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: over a depleted San Francisco forty Niners outfit out West. 8 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: The Packers get to six and two at the midway point. Really, 9 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: we've said this a couple of times this season, but 10 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: this was one of the games that the Packers just 11 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: did what they had to do because the forts their 12 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: lineup did not resemble anything like what they had in 13 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: the two meetings against the Packers last year in November 14 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: and again in January, and um and the Packer simply 15 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: went out West and took care of business well. And 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: one reason this is such a big deal, Mike, is 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: because it was what they kind of failed to do 18 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: four days earlier, taking care of business against a team 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: that had one win. As we've come to find out, 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: the Vikings very much are still alive in this thing 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: with Dalvin Cook in their backfield. But I think everybody 22 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: was expecting Green Bay, despite their history in San Francisco, 23 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: at least of late. They expected them to go out 24 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: there and really impose their will on the forty niners. 25 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: And to their credit, they did that, and they did 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: it on both offense and defense. Looking strictly at the offense, 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: I thought, when you talk about in terms of consistency 28 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: throughout the course of a game, this was a really 29 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: solid effort by them. It started with getting Aaron Jones 30 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: back in the backfield. I thought, you know, and you're 31 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: gonna look at his stats in that game and you're 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: not gonna be blown away. But what he gave them, 33 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: especially on those first two series when there were so 34 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: many questions about his health, what the backfield was gonna 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: look like without having Jamal Williams and A J. Dillon. 36 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: He just allowed the offense to settle in, get its 37 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: composure back in. The Packers, to their credit, for the 38 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: large part of four quarters, were able to carry that 39 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: through the game. Davante Adams has another marquee performance and 40 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: then really quickly just to touch on the defense, This 41 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: is I wrote about an insider inbox this week. This 42 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: is I think kind of the pick me up. They 43 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: needed a reminder of the takeaways, the big plays, what 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: this unit is capable of. Now. I understand it was 45 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: a backup quarterback, and I understand that the forty Niners 46 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: were missing a lot of skill position players. But again, 47 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: if you didn't accomplish those things against an offense that 48 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: was depleted, it raises even more questions. So I thought, 49 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: in terms of just being able to get the train 50 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: back on the tracks, Green Bay accomplished that goal out 51 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: in Santa Clara. Yeah, a couple of things statistically, I 52 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: think to to mention here offensively, and really it flew 53 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: under the radar in a sense because of the Packers 54 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: getting Aaron Jones back on offense and what he meant, 55 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: and with the big game that Davante Adams had. But 56 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was twenty five out of thirty one for 57 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: three five yards with four touchdowns and a one forty 58 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: seven point to pass A rating. And that's on a 59 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: short week, basically not practice, sing and flying two time 60 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: zones away two. And yes, the forty Niners have had 61 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: some injuries on defense, but they were they were missing 62 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: their pass rushers, and yes, and Richard Sherman is also 63 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: on injured reserve in their secondary, but the defense not 64 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: nearly as banged up and statistically has held its own 65 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: throughout the course of this season for the forty Niners, 66 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers just absolutely carved them up. I mean, 67 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody has any Thursday Night Short 68 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: week statistics like over the course of NFL history, but 69 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: I think you'd be hard pressed to find six in completions, 70 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: four touchdown passes in one seven passer rating very often 71 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: in history. The other one, of course, is Davante Adams 72 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: ten catches, a hundred and seventy three yards and a touchdown. 73 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: Now correct me if I'm wrong on this statistical framework, 74 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: but I believe that's the third time this year Davante 75 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: Adams has had double digit catches for a hundred and 76 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: fifty plus yards. And there are only two other receivers 77 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: in and FL history who have had three of those 78 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: types of games in a single season. And Davante Adams 79 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: has done it in six games because he missed two 80 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: of the Packers first eight. That's just outrageous. It's crazy 81 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: and and it and it gets even crazier when you 82 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: break it down and you add in the touchdown receptions 83 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: he's had in all those games, then it's only Kelvin 84 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,119 Speaker 1: Johnson from two thousand and twelve. I believe that matches him. Again. 85 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: That was Megatron having an entire season and Davante playing 86 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: in only six of the Packers first eight games. Somebody 87 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: in the other day was asking me, I was having 88 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: just a just a conversation about the first half of 89 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: the season, and they said, I mean, you can make 90 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: a lot of cases that Aaron Rodgers right now is 91 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: a leading MVP candidate hundred and seventeen point five passer rating. 92 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: You and I discussed it at our desks a couple 93 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: of days ago. He's on pace for I think a 94 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: career high in touchdown passes, career high potentially in yards 95 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: depending on if he can, you know, match some more 96 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: of these big games here in the second half of 97 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: the season. And that is very true. And Rogers does 98 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: serves a lot of credit for the way he's performed 99 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,119 Speaker 1: to this level, especially after I think so many people 100 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: left him out at the side of the road here 101 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season. But Davante Adams man, 102 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: if he hasn't given credit for being an all pro 103 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: at the end of the season. If he stays on 104 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: this trajectory, I don't know what it's gonna take. I 105 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: wrote about it after the game. You probably saw the 106 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: plethora of media social media post from his teammates saying 107 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: that this is the best receiver in the game. That's 108 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: a conversation that you can lose so much breath over 109 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: it's almost not even worth discussing. But the fact that routinely, 110 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: Mike we get into this conversation every single year and 111 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: he's not even among the nominees is kind of inexcusable. 112 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: At this point, We're talking about a guy that can 113 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: run the entire route tree, He catches touchdowns, he does 114 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: everything that you need him to do in this offense. 115 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: He moves around, Aaron Rodgers trusts him. But because of 116 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: the fact, I really do think it boils down to this, 117 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: the fact that he's not a celebrity receiver in this 118 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: league that actually hurts him. The fact that he doesn't 119 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 1: end up on first take because of something he says, 120 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: or he doesn't end up being a guy that's getting 121 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: all these different you know, you know, publicity and off 122 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: the field adulation for the way that he lives his life. 123 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: He is a meat and potatoes receiver in this league, 124 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: and he just so happens to arguably be the best 125 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: one among a ton of successful receivers in a passing era. 126 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: Davante Adams is entering some really rare air right now, 127 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: and you're seeing it happen on a week by week basis, 128 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: and I think it speaks to his character in general. 129 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: And as you said, he doesn't say a lot of 130 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: controversial things that he was actually asked after the San 131 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: Francisco game, do you think you're the best receiver in 132 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: the NFL? And he said, yeah, I do. But how 133 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: many headlines, how many talk shows are talking about that? 134 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: Not many? And that's okay, but they're not talking about 135 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: it because Davante Adams is not some controversial diva look 136 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: at me wide receiver figure. That's not who he is. 137 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: And so he can speak his mind and be honest 138 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: and he says, hey, I'm not trying to be cocky 139 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: or arrogant. I'm just I'm I'm just being confident in 140 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: who I am and that and people accept that. And 141 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: I do think it's it's if he can stay healthy, 142 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: and yes, he did miss two and a half games, 143 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: earlier this season. If he can stay healthy, it's really 144 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: really going to be interesting to see the kind of 145 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: numbers that he puts up here. The guy, if he 146 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: would have played in those first two games, will be 147 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: on pace for two thousand receiving yards this season. I mean, 148 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: it is just ridiculous. It would be a Megatron, a 149 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: Megatron type season because he's had some of those games, Mike. 150 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: I know it's happened a number of times the last 151 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: few years where he's had ten catch plus games, But 152 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: the yards after catch this year, the explosive plays that 153 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: have been built into that that isn't twelve catches for 154 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: ninety four yards. We're having him nearing two hundred yards 155 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: on almost a weekly basis. And to your point there 156 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: about that question, Jason will They from ESPN Wisconsin asked 157 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: that of him, and I know it received some you know, 158 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: comments on on media and whatnot, But the thing about 159 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: Davante's answer that I thought was so illuminating was, yet, well, 160 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: what do you expect him to say? It's not what 161 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: he said, it's how he said it. There's so many 162 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: receiver as I can think of over the last ten 163 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: fifteen years that would have either laughed at that or 164 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: scoffed at or be like, are you kidding me? Of 165 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: course I am. But it's the way that DeVante even 166 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: admitted humbly he would agree with that assertion. That's the 167 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: way he carries himself in the wits, the way he's 168 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: conducted his business for six plus seasons. And the biggest 169 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: thing that Rogers said in any comment that he made 170 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: in the post game of that matchup was he makes 171 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: life as a quarterback so easy because he's not complaining 172 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: about his touches. He's not complaining about his targets. This 173 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: is a guy who just routinely gets open and and 174 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: he's able to, you know, go from there. It's it's 175 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: an incredible story. And the fact that he's still a 176 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: month shy of his twenty eight birthday, I just speaks 177 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: to really how special this guy is gonna be if 178 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: he can stay on pace and if he stays healthy 179 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: in the long term. Yeah, I want to get a 180 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: couple more thoughts from you on the Packers offense in 181 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: a moment here, But first, folks, serious x m NFO 182 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: Radio Channel eight is the only radio outlet dedicated to 183 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: the National Football League seven days a week. Three and 184 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: sixty five days a year, and Packers fans you need 185 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: to gear up for game day. 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Either Aaron Jones or Jamal Williams has 195 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: been out. Jones with the caff injury for a while. 196 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: He's back. Williams had to miss the last game being 197 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: on the COVID list as a as a high risk 198 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: close contact. As this offense starts to get these guys back, 199 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: David Bakti is back at practice, Alan Lazard is back 200 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: at practice. Jamal Williams is now off of that COVID list. 201 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: He was back at practice on Monday. What where do 202 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: you think this Packers offense can go when you know 203 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: it gets all the all the horses back in the stable, 204 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: so to speak. You know, I mean this there, these guys, 205 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: there have only been you've played eight games. That's thirty 206 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: two quarters of football. I would argue five of those 207 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: thirty two quarters they've had trouble. The last three quarters 208 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: against Tampa Bay, the second half in the second game 209 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: against Minnesota. The other twenty seven out of thirty two 210 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: quarters this offense has been on the field, they've been 211 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: really really hard to stop with all kinds of moving 212 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: parts on the offensive line and amongst the skill position players. 213 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: Where do you think this offense can go when everybody's 214 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: back together. It reminds me of you know, watch those 215 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: cooking shows on you know, whether it be Food Network 216 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: or some of these other channels, where you know, you 217 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: give them the certain amount of you know, ingredients to 218 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: work with and they come up with something good and 219 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: it's fine, and the all the judges, you know, praise 220 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: them for it and they pick a winner and everything 221 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: like speaking of making things look easy, but yeah, go ahead. 222 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: But then you watch the cooking shows where they open 223 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: up the entire super market and they say, just go 224 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: ham figure something out and then what guys can come 225 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: up with. I think that's where the Packers offense is 226 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: right now. They've made do here over the last six weeks, 227 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: especially whether it was when they're missing Davante Adams or 228 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: these last four or five games where they haven't had 229 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: Alan Lazard. You mentioned the injuries that you know, Robert 230 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: Tonyan played in every game, but then he developed an 231 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: ankle injury. To Tyler, you know, Lane Taylor, if you 232 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: want to go back to the opener, losing the guy 233 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: that was the presumptive starter at right guard. So all 234 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: these different things they've overcome and now you're starting to 235 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: see the light at the end of the tunnel again. 236 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: Another thing I wrote an inbox this week is this 237 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: is probably the healthiest the Packers are going to be 238 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: the rest of the season coming out of this mini 239 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: by so to speak. Not saying they're gonna get everybody back, 240 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: but it's trending the right way, and even the guys 241 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: that may not be back for the Jaguars, it's looking 242 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: pretty good. On the other end of that, the one 243 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: me personally as the writer, the enthusiasts, the story guy. 244 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it would be pretty interesting if Alan Lazard 245 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: can come back and play against his former team in 246 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: the jack Jacksonville Jaguars on Sunday. But all that being said, 247 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: to answer your original question, I think the arrow is 248 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: pointing up for them and Rogers being able to develop 249 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: trust and all these different guys throughout this process, not 250 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: knowing when he's gonna have Davante Adams or Aaron Jones. 251 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: Losing Aaron Jones two days before a game. I mean, 252 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: the way that they've been able to adapt. Matt Lafleur 253 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: didn't have to sell me on anything when he became 254 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: a head coach. Who am I But my goodness, man, 255 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: I think these last six weeks. You know, there's so 256 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: many questions. Last year, well, they were healthy the whole year. 257 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: They didn't face any adversity. Of course, they were thirteen 258 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: and three there, six and two right now, And a 259 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: lot of it has to do with the fact that 260 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur, Nathaniel hack At, these offensive coaches that have 261 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: been able to adapt and make this offense still a 262 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: top ten unit in despite of the fact they've been 263 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: missing some pieces. Yeah, well, let me get some thoughts 264 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: from you on the Jacksonville Jaguars. This is a one 265 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: win a f C football team, uncommon opponent, all of 266 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: that that will be coming in to lambeau Field on Sunday, 267 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: and with a rookie quarterback who'll be making his second 268 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: NFL start, Jake Luton, if I'm pronouncing that correctly, had 269 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: taken over for the injured Gardner Minshew. I'm personally disappointed 270 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: we're not going to get to see Gardner Minshew. Uh. 271 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: You know, as with Jacksonville being a team the Packers 272 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: only play once every four years, and all we've really 273 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: been able to see is highlights of Minshew in his 274 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: young career so far. Um. I was looking forward to 275 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: getting a chance to see him in person. But be 276 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: that as it may, who are the guys on offense 277 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: for this Jacksonville team that will be supporting this rookie 278 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: quarterback Luton? And who could give the Packers some trouble 279 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: on something? Here's the thing, And Matt Lafleur didn't talk 280 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: in depth about the Jaguars yet, but I imagine he 281 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: will later this week, and I'm guessing what he's gonna 282 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: say is this is a team that's better than the 283 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: record shows. And that's not just all fluff either. I mean, 284 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: you talk about you know, the Vikings and where they 285 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: were at and losing some close games. Jacksonville has lost 286 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: some close games, but they've also dropped now six in 287 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: a row, I believe, since that opener against Indianapolis. So 288 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: there's gonna be sort of a gut check moment for them. 289 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: But there's playmakers go Laura, especially on the offensive side 290 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: of the ball. The one thing Luton proved to me 291 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: in that game against Houston was this guy can deal. 292 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: He can throw the football. It's not just some rookie 293 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: seventh round pick or whatever. He is being back there 294 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: being wide eyed. He threw for three hundred yards in 295 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: that game. And DJ Shark, who appears to be back 296 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: to you know, a hundred percent here after dealing with 297 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: some of his own injuries. I mean, he showed you 298 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: exactly how dominating he can be. This is a legit 299 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: number one receiver in this league. If the guy can 300 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: get the ball to him, he can really make you pay. 301 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: And with JayR. Alexander working his way back now in 302 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: the concussion protocol his status uncertain, that could be a 303 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: big thing to worry about as well. But ultimately I 304 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: think this goes back to the run game. Mike That's 305 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: going to continue to be the question for Green Bay 306 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: until they prove it not to be. In James Robinson, 307 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: they made a decision right away at the beginning of 308 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: the season that this is our running back. This is 309 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: the guy we're gonna run with. Leonard for Nette they 310 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: released and Robinson he's he's pretty you know, he would 311 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: have fit well into the Black and Blue division. I 312 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: feel It's not like he's just a consummate home run threat, 313 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: but he wears you down, man, and they have so 314 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: much trust in him. This is one of the few 315 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: backs in the NFL right now that is a true, 316 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: tried and true every down back and they'll shut them 317 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: down your throat for four quarters. Yeah, this is this 318 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: is going to be This is going to be an 319 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: interesting one because there there is there that lack of 320 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: familiarity when you play these A f C teams And 321 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: obviously that cuts both ways, because the Jaguars are not 322 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: familiar um necessarily with with the Packers. But it always, 323 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: it always creates these potential surprises that you just don't 324 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: you don't exactly know what you're walking into. And yes, 325 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: it it can be seen maybe as another get well 326 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: game for the Packers defense facing a backup rookie quarterback 327 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: and all of that. But the Packers defense is going 328 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: to have its challenges, and I think what you mentioned 329 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: earlier about, Okay, this defense hasn't generated the turnovers that 330 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: it did a year ago that were so important to 331 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: the success on that side of the ball. But they 332 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: generated a couple of them against San Francisco and certainly, 333 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Darnell Savage probably should have had to pick six. 334 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: He's gonna be kicking himself over over that one that 335 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: he missed against the forty niners for the rest of 336 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: the season. But those opportunities were there. They're starting to 337 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: cash in on them. You you start to get, you know, 338 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: that type of momentum going in the turnover category, and yeah, 339 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: if they can do it again against another young quarterback, 340 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: more power to him, because a lot of it is 341 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: just sometimes it's it's how you feel about yourself when 342 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: you're out there on the field and how you carry yourself, 343 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: and and maybe even more so this year because you 344 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: don't have the crowd behind you to start screaming and 345 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: yelling on third and seven and all of that kind 346 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: of stuff. So I think it'll be interesting to see 347 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: how the Packers defense if if if they can, you know, 348 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: put together a second straight solid performance, even if they're 349 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: facing an offense that is not necessarily at full strength. Yeah, 350 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: and again you're seeing the line out there already on 351 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: this game, and we were talking to two touchdown to 352 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: score line right now for green Bay. You and I 353 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: discussed this a couple of weeks ago. It goes back 354 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: to two thousand than sixteen, No, two thousand twelve. Excuse me, 355 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: when the Jaguars came in here and I think they 356 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: were sixteen point dogs to green Bay. Green Bay won 357 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: that game, but they were well within sixteen points. So 358 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: you have to be able to again make a statement 359 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: here early on the schedule sets up really well for 360 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: green Bay. I know we're gonna talk about the whole 361 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: landscape here in a minute, but this is sort of 362 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: a take care of business type game before you have 363 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: to go and play a difficult matchup against a quarterback 364 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: you have had a rough history with a Philip Rivers. 365 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: And then you've got a Chicago Bears team that, while 366 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: facing some adversity right now, has been a winning ball 367 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: club for the bulk of this season. As far as 368 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: the Jaguars go, though, I do think this ultimately comes 369 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: down to what Green Bay's offense does against their defense. 370 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: Jacksonville has been up and down to this point of 371 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: the season on the defensive side of the ball. Josh 372 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: Allen is back now he's healthy. He still only has 373 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: two and a half sacks on the season. He was 374 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: working through some of his own stuff, but all those 375 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: sacks have come in three of his last four games. 376 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: So there's still things to worry about there. But I 377 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: just think with you being at home, if you can 378 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,239 Speaker 1: come out again. They've scored on all eight of their 379 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: opening possessions, make a statement early on. It really sets 380 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: you up here to to be able to, you know, 381 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: do what everyone is expecting them to do. Yeah. Well, 382 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: as far as where things stand in the bigger picture here, 383 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: the Packers are six and two, two games up in 384 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: the lost column in the NFC North, with the Chicago 385 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: Bears at five and four and the Bears having lost 386 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: three straight, and then behind them the Lions and the 387 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: Vikings are both three and five, And as far as 388 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: the NFC in general goes, this is where things I 389 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: think it really really interesting. Not that I'm taking the 390 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: NFC North for granted, because the Packers still have to 391 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: play the Bears twice um. Although I do say, and 392 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: I mentioned this an insider inbox, I don't think it's 393 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: a bad thing right now that with the way Minnesota 394 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: is starting to make its presence, felt that the season 395 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: series is done. If the Vikings are going to try 396 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: to catch the Packers, they don't get to play them 397 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: again in order to do that. And I think that 398 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: that bodes well for green Bay because it just makes 399 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: it that much hard d for Minnesota to make that 400 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: run at first place. But in the NFC in general, 401 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: three teams right now with the top record at six 402 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: and two. You have Green Bay, Seattle and New Orleans. 403 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay right behind at six and three, and then 404 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: you have the Rams and the Arizona Cardinals are both 405 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: five and three. So that's a half dozen teams that 406 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: are all within one game of one another for the 407 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: number one spot for the top record in the NFC. 408 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: And here's the interesting thing, schedule wise, I'll throw a 409 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff at you here as far as what 410 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: the second half of the schedule looks like. As I 411 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: mentioned the Bear, the Packers are playing the Bears twice 412 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: the Packers also will have to play the Colts and 413 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: the Titans, the top two teams in the a f 414 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: C South, and the Bears and the Vikings have already 415 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: played the Colts and the Titans. Those games are off 416 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: of their schedules, and the Packers have both of those 417 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: coming up. But then also as far as the rest 418 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: of the NFC is concerned, Seattle and Arizona have to 419 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: play each other once more, and the Rams have two 420 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: games left with the Cardinals and two games left with 421 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. So the Rams are five and three and 422 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: of their remaining eight games, half of them four of 423 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: them are those division games against the Cardinals and the Seahawks. 424 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: My point is there is a lot to be sorted 425 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: out here over the over the last eight weeks eight 426 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: games of this regular season. In the good news is 427 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: the Packers are right where they need to be at 428 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: the moment, and they just need to need to do 429 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: what it takes to stay there. Yeah, my lingering comment 430 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: has been, Mike, especially getting through this third quarter of 431 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: the season, is that you just got to continue to 432 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: pile up the wins, because I really do feel like 433 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: whatever team gets hot in weeks fifteen sixteen seventeen is 434 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: gonna be the one that really takes a run into 435 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: the playoffs, because right now all the horses are pretty 436 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: much a line going around the second turn. And it's 437 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: funny too, because every time somebody wants to claim someone 438 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: is sort of the leader in the clubhouse in the NFC, 439 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: they sort of get knocked off the pedestal. Going into 440 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: that game against New or Wines, everybody just said, well, yeah, 441 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: Tampa's the best team. New Orleans changed that. New Orleans 442 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: the same team that three weeks ago everybody said, well, 443 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: this this team is terrible. Why are they playing Taysom 444 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: Hill as much as they are. It's a game of 445 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: consistency and there's going to be weekly ups and downs. Well, 446 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: and not that long ago, Seattle is undefeated. They take 447 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: an overtime loss to a division rival with Arizona. Then 448 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: they go play across conference game, across country, trip out 449 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: to Buffalo and get knocked off by a pretty good 450 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills team. And so suddenly Seattle is six and two, 451 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: and New Orleans, whom the Packers defeated on the road 452 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: way back at the beginning of the season, there now 453 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: six and two, and right there with with green Bay 454 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: and Seattle with the at the top spot in the NFC. Yeah. So, 455 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: and I don't want to get into this because it's 456 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: way too really to do it. But right now, if 457 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: the playoffs started, the Packers would be the three seed 458 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: based on the strength of the conference and everything, and 459 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: the wins against the conference, New Orleans would be number one. 460 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: But it shows you, you know, Mike McCarthy always used 461 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: to have that line, and I really always liked it 462 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: where he mentioned you got to get to ten wins 463 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: and then you can start talking and you can start 464 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: talking about the scenarios. And so that's where that to me, 465 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: it's like it's not quite a magic number, because it's not. 466 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: You can't guarantee anything, but it really does line up 467 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: well with green Bay having a chance to get that 468 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: by to make a run at it here with the 469 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: way the schedule aligns. But you can't have any more hiccups. 470 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: You can't have those those blimps in the radar, those 471 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: anomalies like they felt that there was in that game 472 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: against Minnesota, because even after that game ended, Mike, we're 473 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: doing the post game zooms. I don't know how you 474 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: felt about it. I still felt like Green Bay was 475 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: a much better team. They just got beat on that 476 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: particular day day by the best player on the field 477 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: and Cook. And as we found out the last two weeks, 478 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: now this just in Dalvin Cook is pretty good. Yeah, 479 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: he might be making a run at the best running 480 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: back in the NFL right now. So all that being said, 481 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: you have to tie it together. You have to win 482 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: these intra conference games coming up for these that last 483 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: month of the season to be meaningful. But Mike I 484 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: was working on the game program this morning for the 485 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: Jaguars game. The Green Bay Packers here, five games at 486 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: home to close the season, three on the road. This 487 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: is an opportunity, it's a huge opportunity to think the 488 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: most of it. Absolutely well, with that, we will call 489 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be 490 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: sure to follow all of our coverage of the team 491 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: all week long on Packers dot com for Wes I 492 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: am Mike. Thank you for tuning in everybody. We'll see 493 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: you next time.