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Speaker 1: TikTok gets grilled. Google launches bar a major acropolips that

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Speaker 1: affects the screenshots you might have shared, plus your tech

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? I'm Rich Dmiro and this is Rich

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Speaker 1: on Tech, the show where I talk about the tech

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Speaker 1: place where I answer your questions about technology. I'm the

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Speaker 1: tech reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. Phone lines are open triple eight Rich

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Speaker 1: I'll be checking email throughout the show. Well well, well,

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Speaker 1: mister mister Shao Chow goes to Washington. That's what happened

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Speaker 1: this week. TikTok CEO in front of the House Energy

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Speaker 1: the US has about TikTok spying on users. It turned

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Speaker 1: into kind of a circus there five hours and I

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Speaker 1: think it was like over five hours of I'd call

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Speaker 1: it testimony, but realistically it was a lot of finger pointing,

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Speaker 1: a lot of accusations. I mean, you're talking a guy

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Speaker 1: and he's sitting there defending himself like I've never seen before. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I have seen it before. I've seen it with Facebook,

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Speaker 1: I've seen it with Instagram, I've seen it with Google,

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Speaker 1: I've seen it with Twitter. Yes, the US government loves

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Speaker 1: seen anything come from any of these style hearings. Not really.

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Speaker 1: Facebook still works just the way it always has. Twitter well,

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Speaker 1: Twitter has kind of changed, but you know that's for

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Speaker 1: different reasons. Instagram all the same. I mean, I would

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Speaker 1: versus the spying. Now, the spying is a big deal

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Speaker 1: of us to think about the privacy implications of our lives.

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Speaker 1: So TikTok, whether or not it is spying on US

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Speaker 1: citizens remains to be seen, right, But this is just

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Speaker 1: one app. There are many apps that people use on

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Speaker 1: use it to sell you stuff. That is what these

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Speaker 1: apps do. Now, yes, we get some services out of

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Speaker 1: me kind of think. We're going to talk more about

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Speaker 1: do their thing. You need to take control of your

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Speaker 1: So Number one, you gotta stop speeding through all of

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Speaker 1: and they know that. Why do you think we scroll

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Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff in there that I've probably

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Speaker 1: My advice, create unique, separate passwords for every account. Tech

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Speaker 1: do it. Your home network. Someone comes over to your house, Hey, Rich,

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Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. Mike is in El Segundo, California. Mike,

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Speaker 3: Hey, Rich are I've got an older iPad, maybe about

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Speaker 1: They're a tech company. They're trying to make money off

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Speaker 1: of us. They're trying to get our personal information. Is

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Speaker 1: that right?

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Speaker 4: Well, there's certainly these are businesses. These are not philanthropies, right,

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Speaker 4: there's no charities out there. They're businesses, and it's a

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Speaker 4: question of how big is the business, How are they

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Speaker 4: going to make money? You know, whether it's selling you

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Speaker 4: something which Apple tends to do, right. They sell you

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Speaker 4: hardware and you're subscribe to software, or they give you

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Speaker 4: something for in quotes free, but they monetize it and

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Speaker 4: they make money through advertising. So then they're selling your interests.

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Speaker 4: They're selling your eyeballs. That is paying attention to whatever

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Speaker 4: you look at. And that's what TikTok is, right. TikTok

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Speaker 4: is in that area. TikTok monetizes through ad partnerships. I mean,

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Speaker 4: if you are on TikTok, you notice there are more

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Speaker 4: and more ads in there, and so that's how it's

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Speaker 4: that's a trade off that exists across pretty much all

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Speaker 4: of technology. But you said something is very interesting that

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Speaker 4: they don't. There are no rules, right, So different companies

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Speaker 4: go by different ethos. So, for example, Apple is tends

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Speaker 4: to be more privacy focused than others, right, because they're

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Speaker 4: not ad based. They don't care what we're doing all

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Speaker 4: their devices. What they care about is buy more of

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Speaker 4: our stuff, be in our ecosystem. Whereas Google, well they

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Speaker 4: don't sell you a lot of hardware. They're starting to,

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Speaker 4: but most of their money is made through advertising, so

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Speaker 4: they really need to know what you're doing across their

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Speaker 4: network of things. So they don't have the same kind

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Speaker 4: of rules and ethos that Apple has. So there's no consistency,

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Speaker 4: and there's no data US data bill of.

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Speaker 1: Rights, right, different plate. I mean, obviously Europe has much

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Speaker 1: stronger privacy regulations, California has much stronger privacy regulations. But yes,

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Speaker 1: federally that's just not the case. And every company, like

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Speaker 1: you said, kind of does their own thing. I guess

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Speaker 1: my big question is what was your takeaway? Was there

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Speaker 1: anything that surprised you from this this testimony?

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Speaker 4: Well, I was, you know, I was very interested when

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Speaker 4: I heard him say the CEO too, say that he

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Speaker 4: reports directly to the CEO of Byte Dance. The Bite

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Speaker 4: Dance is a Chinese company, and that CEO is in China,

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Speaker 4: and he may or may not be a member of

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Speaker 4: the Communist Party. And I think that was one moment

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Speaker 4: I'm really kind of fixated on, like, Okay, there's because

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Speaker 4: they weren't getting enough really solid information out of them

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Speaker 4: because they spent too much time just talking about I

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Speaker 4: don't know what. They just just speak they're making speeches.

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Speaker 4: But I was like, give me details that we can

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Speaker 4: because that's what they can dig into. The other thing

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Speaker 4: was that he owns stock in Byte Dance, So again,

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Speaker 4: these are things that talk to his interests, who controls

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Speaker 4: what he does and who he answers to and how

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Speaker 4: it's going to play out now. That was interesting to me.

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Speaker 4: And of course Project Texas, which is what is the

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Speaker 4: plan that by Dance slash TikTok now TikTok whatever they're

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Speaker 4: building separately has to protect firewall off American data, which

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Speaker 4: includes setting up almost like a separate company, which I

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Speaker 4: think is called the United States Security Data Security USDs.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's right there.

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Speaker 4: I know, I know it was very weird, but that's

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Speaker 4: the name they came up with. There's going to be

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Speaker 4: you know, any legacy data that was left on on

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Speaker 4: service that were controlled by by Dance, it's going to

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Speaker 4: be pulled off. Uh. There, So they're all all the

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Speaker 4: data will be firewalls, all be with Oracle, and they'll

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Speaker 4: have like a board that will populated with people with

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Speaker 4: security backrounds all the US people. Uh, and they'll have oversight.

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Speaker 4: They'll be like an over third party oversite to make

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Speaker 4: sure they follow all the rules. So I actually thought,

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Speaker 4: all right, that's a start, that's something. But it was

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Speaker 4: interesting because what the officials the lawmakers did is they

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Speaker 4: basically dismissed the entire plan. They really were like me, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they really kind of pick it apart, which is what

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Speaker 4: I wanted. I'm like, go deeper into that because that's

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Speaker 4: what he has to answer for because that's their action plan.

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Speaker 4: You want to know that that's a good action plan.

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Speaker 1: But wouldn't it solve more problems just to get this

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Speaker 1: controlled by a US company, or to sell make it

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Speaker 1: its own company, like just you know, branch off and

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, maybe you can't do that,

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Speaker 1: but like it seems odd that, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I get that there's a lot of money at stake

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Speaker 1: here and Byteedance makes a lot of money off of

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Speaker 1: this app or there's potential for tons of money to

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Speaker 1: be made. But would it solve all the problems if

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Speaker 1: they just said, hey, we're going to make this a

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Speaker 1: US company. Now we're going to just start up. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they say they made a big deal about saying how

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Speaker 1: many offices they have in the US and how many employees.

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Speaker 4: They have here seven seven thousand. I think, yeah, obviously, yes,

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Speaker 4: you are totally right. It would make things so easy.

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Speaker 4: My feeling is I believe that the reason China by

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Speaker 4: Dance will not sell is out of pride. This is

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Speaker 4: a global sensation. They really are excited and happy about it,

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Speaker 4: and they would feel I think they would feel they

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Speaker 4: would lose face to spell it. It would be an embarrassment.

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Speaker 4: They would be, you know, basically kneeling to the US

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Speaker 4: on this point. That's why they won't sell it. And

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Speaker 4: I will say also that I don't think I don't

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Speaker 4: think a band is actually on the table, partly because

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Speaker 4: of the lobbying, but also because of the thing you

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Speaker 4: mentioned that the deep sort of integration in US and

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Speaker 4: including investment from US parties, So there would be a

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Speaker 4: lot of pushback on doing that, making it like this

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Speaker 4: illicit thing you could only get to it through VPN.

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Speaker 4: So I don't think that's going to happen either. So

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Speaker 4: we're kind of in this weird spot. But what's strange

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Speaker 4: to me is that it is so rare to find

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Speaker 4: agreement on both sides of the Aisle and the White

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Speaker 4: House on any topic, and here we have one where

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Speaker 4: everybody's there, we're all in agreement. They're like, yeah, bad,

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Speaker 4: this is bad. We should do something, maybe ban it.

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Speaker 4: So that is the X factor where if they're truly

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Speaker 4: not satisfied, they may press this point and then it

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Speaker 4: goes to someplace that maybe it is something like a

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Speaker 4: band or I don't know, but I just don't think

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Speaker 4: they'll get them to sell them sell it because of

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Speaker 4: the reasons I stated, Well.

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Speaker 1: It's certainly been a saga of the century for at

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Speaker 1: least a couple I mean, I remember the first time

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Speaker 1: I covered this probably three or four years ago and

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Speaker 1: it's still I just can't believe it's still going on.

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Speaker 1: And we even get into the whole idea of the

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Speaker 1: misinformation that's on TikTok and the self harm and the

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Speaker 1: challenges that are just taking over children's lives and ruining them.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot going on here, and that's not

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Speaker 1: just TikTok's fault. That is, you know, a social media

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Speaker 1: thing in general. But that's a whole other conversation. But

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Speaker 1: Lance I'm gonna have to leave it there. How can

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Speaker 1: folks keep in touch with you, follow you all that

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Speaker 1: good stuff?

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Speaker 4: Obviously tech grad dot com. I have a number of

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Speaker 4: stories to go up there of the US that are

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Speaker 4: in chief, and then of course on Twitter, assuming it

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Speaker 4: doesn't go coput. I'm on Twitter, uh and yes you

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Speaker 4: can find me there and no, yes on TikTok. Yes

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Speaker 4: I am on.

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Speaker 1: TikTok Okay, we'll check that out. Lancey lan Off, editor

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Speaker 1: in chief of tech Radar and also the tech guy

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Speaker 1: on Live with Kelly and Ryan. Thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: joining me today. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: On your Saturday, it was a pleasure talk to you.

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Speaker 1: dot TV. Jamie is in Riverside, California. Jamie, you are

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Speaker 1: on with rich Hi.

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Speaker 7: Rich thank you for taking the call. I wanted to

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Speaker 7: ask you what the Microsoft upgrade to Wendy eleven. I'm

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Speaker 7: having a difficult time locating like my test manager and

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Speaker 7: task you know, like my files where before I used

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Speaker 7: to go and start look down and it would give

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Speaker 7: you all the information like Microsoft Office, and I can't

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Speaker 7: seem to find that anymore.

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Speaker 1: So if they've moved everything, yes, that's funny.

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Speaker 7: If they're like a website, I can find I like

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Speaker 7: the TT so they can kind of maneuver around, or

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Speaker 7: you know, they're like.

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Speaker 5: A search bar.

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Speaker 1: What do you suggest, So they moved everything around Windows

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Speaker 1: eleven is uh, they sort of moved everything to the

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Speaker 1: center of the screen now, right, like the whole start

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Speaker 1: button and all that start menu. Yes, And I'll be honest,

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Speaker 1: I have not played with it that much. It's on

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Speaker 1: my list of things to do to kind of check

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Speaker 1: it out and see. So I can't specifically say where

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Speaker 1: all these things are. But I mean, as for resources,

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Speaker 1: I think the easiest thing to do. I mean, these

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Speaker 1: things don't come with an instruction manual. But no, Microsoft

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Speaker 1: does a pretty good job on their website of doing tutorials.

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Speaker 1: Have you looked at those at all?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's where I was much.

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Speaker 7: Are they for C tutorials or are they just like

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Speaker 7: introducing the new Windows even Well.

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Speaker 1: They've got a whole bunch of stuff, so I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at it Now I just did support dot Microsoft dot

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Speaker 1: com and they got this section called Meat Windows eleven,

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Speaker 1: and so they've got a whole thing. It tells you

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Speaker 1: about the look and feel, it tells you about how

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Speaker 1: to personalize your experience, the apps and tools, entertainment, gaming, accessibility, creativity,

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Speaker 1: and then it underneath each video it gives you all

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Speaker 1: of kind of like the basics. So how to search obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know how to do that. You press search or

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Speaker 1: you can you know, tap Windows s, how to make

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Speaker 1: desktop groups, your Microsoft account, keyboard shortcuts that you might

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Speaker 1: find useful, like how about this? Did you know that

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Speaker 1: for voice typing you can do Windows.

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Speaker 7: H No, but I got to get.

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Speaker 1: See there you go. How about how about opening the

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Speaker 1: emoji panel? Jamie? Have you done that? It's Windows semicolon.

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Speaker 1: Ok see all right, so this is support dot Microsoft

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Speaker 1: dot com. And then look for the meat Windows eleven section.

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Speaker 1: Now the other thing that's go ahead, well, the other

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Speaker 1: thing that's really handy. Okay you first, no, you it's

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Speaker 1: like at a stop you know, is that like those

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Speaker 1: stop signs you know where you're like, no, no, you

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Speaker 1: go first, No, you go first, No, you go first, Jamie,

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Speaker 1: you go first, okay, thank you.

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Speaker 7: I wanted to also ask you, I'm building a new workstation.

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Speaker 7: Before you would be able to just put in a

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Speaker 7: user name, but now it seems like they always wanted

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Speaker 7: to use an email account, like you know, a live

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Speaker 7: or outlook yes, to get connected to the network.

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Speaker 5: Is there a work around now or is that just

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Speaker 5: the way.

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Speaker 7: You know the things work now.

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Speaker 1: That's a good question because I was just setting up

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Speaker 1: a computer and I noticed that same exact thing, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, wait a second, do I really need

655
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Speaker 1: to put into Microsoft account now? I'm assuming that there

656
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Speaker 1: is a way to do a local account. Off the

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Speaker 1: top of my head, I don't know, but I assume

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Speaker 1: that when you're signing in, there's probably a tiny little

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Speaker 1: link when when you're setting up the computer that says

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Speaker 1: to do it offline. So when you're going through, just

661
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Speaker 1: kind of really take a close look at things and

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Speaker 1: see if there is a section on that sign up

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Speaker 1: area where it says like go offline or do this locally.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a way to do it. I just

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Speaker 1: went ahead and used my Microsoft account because I was

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Speaker 1: just like, okay, let me just try this. But obviously

667
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: they're trying to force everyone to do these things a

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Speaker 1: certain way because they want everyone linked in to you know,

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Speaker 1: their main Microsoft accounts because that helps them in the end.

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00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: But again, I think that's all part of the tutorials.

671
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Speaker 1: And also, I mean, I know this is a pretty

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Speaker 1: a given, but you know, YouTube is a really good

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Speaker 1: resource for this kind of stuff. I would find some

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Speaker 1: good YouTubers that cover Windows eleven and just kind of

675
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Speaker 1: watch some of their videos. I know it's, you know,

676
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: could be kind of boring to sit through some of

677
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: this stuff, but if you're really trying to, you know,

678
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Speaker 1: learn the ins and outs of this new software, that's

679
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Speaker 1: probably a good way to familiarize yourself at least, just

680
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Speaker 1: to get some.

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Speaker 7: Boring.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's b but you know, I think

683
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Speaker 1: that it depends. It depends, like it's just you know,

684
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Speaker 1: it depends on how interested you are and all these

685
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Speaker 1: little nuances. But there's definitely a lot of new features,

686
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Speaker 1: and I feel like Windows has really they just keep

687
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: changing things a lot, and it's happening very fast right now.

688
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: I mean, they just you know, especially with this AI stuff,

689
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Speaker 1: it's all gonna change again, Jamie, that's for sure.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's for sure.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, thank you the mind that I really do

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Speaker 5: enjoy your show.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you very much for calling, and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put links to everything that I mentioned. I'm

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Speaker 1: taking very good notes. I'm like a student in a

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Speaker 1: college class right now. I'm taking notes as I go

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Speaker 1: along to everything that I mentioned, and I'm putting them

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Speaker 1: all in the show notes. So after you listen to

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Speaker 1: the show, once this is all posted as the podcast,

700
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: you can go to my website rich on tech dot

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Speaker 1: tv see the link, and I will have everything that

702
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Speaker 1: I mentioned inside the link so that you can easily

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Speaker 1: find it. All Right, So I've been talking about this

704
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Speaker 1: netgear orb. If you have one of these routers, which

705
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Speaker 1: you've probably heard people talk about, these mesh router systems,

706
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Speaker 1: that you put a couple different access points around your

707
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Speaker 1: house and they work together to create a Wi Fi

708
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Speaker 1: signal that is everywhere throughout your house. Instead of the

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Speaker 1: old way that is just one router modem in the

710
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Speaker 1: middle of your house from your cable company or whatever,

711
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: and that puts out the signal and it never reaches

712
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Speaker 1: to the far corners. These new mesh networks, they have

713
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: different access points you put in different rooms and they

714
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Speaker 1: all work together to create one Wi Fi signal that

715
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: works in every corner of your house. So these things

716
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: are very popular. Ero sort of started the trend and

717
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: now you've got a whole bunch of them. Neck Your

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Speaker 1: Orby is a very highly rated mesh wireless system. It's

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00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,959
Speaker 1: very popular and if you have one, you probably want

720
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: to check for updates because there is some There was

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Speaker 1: an exploit. Basically, hackers were able to get into this thing,

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Speaker 1: and so you want to make sure that you have

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Speaker 1: this thing patched up. So the bottom line is you

724
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Speaker 1: don't really need to know what they were able to

725
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Speaker 1: do with this, because it's besides the point. But if

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Speaker 1: you have a neck gear Orby, go into the app

727
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Speaker 1: on your phone, go into the settings, check for an update,

728
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Speaker 1: and update the software so that your network is secure.

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Speaker 1: All right, I've got phone lines open at triple eight.

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Speaker 1: Rich one on one eight eight eight seven four to two,

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Speaker 1: four to one zero one. My name is Rich Dmiro.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. My name is Rich Demiro, hanging out

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Speaker 1: talking technology. This is a show where I talk about

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Speaker 1: the tech. If I can talk, this is the show

736
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: where I talk about the tech stuff I think you

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00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: should know about. It's also the place where I answer

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Speaker 1: your questions. You can find me online at rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: That's me on all social media. That's Instagram, that's Facebook,

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00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: and as long as Twitter is still around. That's where

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Speaker 1: all be this week. I know I try to make

742
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Speaker 1: the entire show about AI, but that is the number

743
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: one theme of the tech world right now. AI is everything.

744
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: It's kind of like it reminds me of going to

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00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: these tech shows when the internet and wireless connections kind

746
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: of first started, and every product would get an Internet connection.

747
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: It's like, you have a teacup up, it's got Internet. Oh,

748
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: you have a frame, it's got Internet. You've got a speaker,

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00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: it's got Internet everything. And now we're seeing that same

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Speaker 1: trend with AI. This all started because of chat GPT.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't used it, there is only one way

752
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 1: to access it. It is through the website, which is OpenAI.

753
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: That's the company that makes it. So it's chat dot

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00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: OpenAI dot com. So do not get scammed into logging

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00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: into chat GPT through an app or through pretty much

756
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: anything else. At this point, there is nothing else. There

757
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: are products that run on top of OpenAI and chat GPT.

758
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: But at this point, there is only one legitimate Chat

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00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: GPT and that is through OpenAI's website. And so if

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00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: you're trying to like log in with your Facebook, there's

761
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: a lot of scams out there that have to do

762
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: with that. Do not fall for them. Do not download

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00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: an app to the iPhone or from Google. There is

764
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: no chat GPT app right now, so just don't even

765
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: do it. If you want to use chat GPT on

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00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: your phone, you can bookmark chat dot OpenAI dot com

767
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: and that will work on your phone, it will work

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Speaker 1: on your computer, and it's all free. Now it gets

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00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: a little confusing because now there is a paid version

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Speaker 1: of chat GPT called Chat GPT Plus and it's twenty

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Speaker 1: bucks a month, which is a lot of money. So

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Speaker 1: you have to really have a use case for chat

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Speaker 1: GBT plus to pay twenty bucks a month for this

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00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: right now, Like you're a developer, you just you know,

775
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: you just really really need something more than what they

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00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: give for free. And keep in mind, Chat GBT is

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Speaker 1: sort of locked into twenty twenty one. It is not

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00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: up to date, it is not current. It's a research

779
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: tool right now, and so if you're looking for answers

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00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: that are past twenty twenty one. It just doesn't have

781
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: those right now. That will change. But that's the way

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Speaker 1: chat GBT is. And it's an amazing, amazing application program,

783
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. It's really impressive. But

784
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Speaker 1: I've been playing with the Google version of this AI stuff.

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Speaker 1: They're calling it barred b A R D. And Google's AI.

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Speaker 1: I've told you about this before. They were kind of

787
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: their hand was forced in all this stuff. Now, I'm

788
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Speaker 1: not saying that Google has not been working on a

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Speaker 1: for a very long time. They have. In fact, Google

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Speaker 1: is using a lot of AI behind the scenes, and

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Speaker 1: almost all of the products that they have, whether it's YouTube,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Gmail, whether it's you know, any app that

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Speaker 1: they have on Android, they use a lot of AI.

794
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Speaker 1: But they never came out with their version of chat

795
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Speaker 1: GBT until now because it flies in the face of

796
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: their entire business model. And if you want, by the way,

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00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: to sign up for this, it's barred dot Google dot

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00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: com and there's a wait list and you will get access.

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Speaker 1: It just takes a little bit of time. So for instance,

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Speaker 1: I signed up the first second it was available. I

801
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: got access probably an hour later. My son he signed

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00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 1: up probably the end of the day that day, which

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00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: was a couple days ago, and he just got access today,

804
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: so it could take a few days to get access.

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Speaker 1: They're rolling this out because it's test. They're trying to

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Speaker 1: see how people use it, how it works, and just

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00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: to you know, it's just a test. It's an experiment.

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Speaker 1: They're calling it an early experiment. And generative AI means

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00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: that this AI generates responses based on its knowledge. So

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00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: nobody has sat there and programmed in these answers. It

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Speaker 1: comes up with them on the fly. So it could

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Speaker 1: be wrong, it could be right, it could be off,

813
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 1: it could be amazing. So let me explain. Okay, Number

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Speaker 1: one Bard. The reason why they're calling it Bard, according

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Speaker 1: to Bard, is that it's an old storyteller. That's what

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Speaker 1: they were called back in the day, like a Bard,

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Speaker 1: and so that's where they got the inspiration for the name.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. That's just what Bard

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Speaker 1: told me, so we have to take it at face value.

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Speaker 1: But Google says you can use Bard to boost your productivity,

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Speaker 1: accelerate your ideas, fuel your curiosity, fuel your curiosity. I've

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00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: asked it so many questions in the past week, it's

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Speaker 1: quite impressive. I've said, Hey, I love this book, recommend

824
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: me five books just like it. I also asked, give

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Speaker 1: me I like this song, Give me a list of

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Speaker 1: one hundred songs just like that song. It did it.

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Speaker 1: I've asked for recipes. Hey, I have this, this, and this.

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Speaker 1: Can you make me a recipe using those ingredients? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Can you make it healthy? Can you make it vegan?

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Speaker 1: I asked it last night, Can you tell me the

831
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Speaker 1: best things on the menu at this restaurant I was

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00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: going to? And it just spit out the answers. Now

833
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: here's the thing. It doesn't do as many citations as

834
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: Bing does with their AI, so Bing will have at

835
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Speaker 1: the end of their AI answers where it got those answers.

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Speaker 1: Google is not as forthcoming all the time.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 1: I've noticed sometimes at the end of the answer it

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Speaker 1: will give you a link to where it got that information.

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00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: Other times it will not, So you don't really necessarily

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00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: know where this information is coming from. But what's amazing

842
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: about bard is that it feels like you have literally

843
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: the smartest person in the world at your desci You

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00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: can ask anything to this person. It's not always going

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Speaker 1: to answer it. Sometimes it'll say sorry, I'm AI, I'm

846
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: not trained on that, or it just gets a little

847
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: cagey and it says, ah, sorry, Like if you try

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00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: to like really push the limits of this stuff, there's

849
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: a lot of guardrails built in right now because they

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Speaker 1: don't know what these AI systems are gonna say. They've

851
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 1: programmed them to work, but they didn't program what they're

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Speaker 1: going to generate, and so it's really anyone's guess as

853
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Speaker 1: to how people flex the muscles of these different AI

854
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: programs to make them do things that even the programmers

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Speaker 1: didn't know they could do. For instance, just in the

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Speaker 1: past week, I've asked it to compose a song. I've

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Speaker 1: asked it to write biographies of people. And it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: If you ask it to write a biography, Hey who

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Speaker 1: is rich Tomuro it will say sorry, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But if you put in their social media account, say

861
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: hey who is at rich on Tech? Then it comes

862
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: back with all the information. So again, it's just the

863
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: way it's been programmed to do this kind of stuff.

864
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: I've asked it to. It literally coded me simple websites.

865
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: I said, hey, can you grab an RSS feed and

866
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: create a feed of that RSS on this website and

867
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: play the latest episode of my podcast, and sure enough

868
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: it did that. I said, hey, can you code a

869
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 1: simple timer on a website and have this screen flash

870
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: when there's one minute left on the timer? And it

871
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: did that. I mean, this is really really advanced stuff

872
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: and it's all free right now. And the reason why

873
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 1: I said it flies in the face of Google's business

874
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: is because there's no ads on it, and as far

875
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: as I can tell, I'm not sure how they're going

876
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: to implement ads unless it's a banner ad on this screen.

877
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: The other thing that's really unique about it is you

878
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: can say thumbs up thumbs down if you like the answer.

879
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: Because it's still learning. It also gives you different drafts

880
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: of answer, so when you look at an answer, it

881
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: will say, okay, well, our computer also came up with this,

882
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: and it will you can look at different versions of

883
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: the same answer, and you can also hit a Google

884
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: button at the bottom of the answer to kind of

885
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: see where where it lies with the Google search results,

886
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: how does it compare with those? And so that's unique

887
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: to Google that I didn't really see on BING. These

888
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: are all called large language models LLM, and what that

889
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: means is They feed a whole bunch of information into

890
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: this large language model, and it goes to town just

891
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: figuring out what all that information means. And when you

892
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: ask a question, it reaches into its information database and

893
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: pulls out the answers that it thinks are right. It's

894
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: really really wild. If you haven't tried this yet, it's

895
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: just and I know there's been so much talk about

896
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: this stuff in the world, but it is going to

897
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: change everything. It really really is. And when you sit

898
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: here and use it, you realize that after a week,

899
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: I am using Barred as my entire search engine. I

900
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: don't use Google anymore because I don't need it. I'm

901
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: asking for answers. If I need a link to a website, sure,

902
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: but if I want an answer to something, I'm going

903
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: to Bard. Now keep in mind this is from Google,

904
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: it says. Because there are so much information that this

905
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 1: is programmed with, this will reflect real world biases, stereotypes,

906
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: and sometimes this will show up in the answers. The

907
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: answers can also be inaccurate, they can be misleading, and

908
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: they can have false information all while being presented confidently,

909
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: which means Bard may present an answer to you that

910
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: seems right and you may run with it and it's

911
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: just flat out wrong. And the reason you don't know

912
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: that is because it presents it in such a way

913
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: where it feels authoritative. And that's the trickiest part to

914
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: all of this AI and I think what's almost the

915
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: Achilles heel to it is that because it can be

916
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 1: so wrong on stuff and sound so right, we literally

917
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: as humans almost have to fact check, fact check every

918
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: single aspect of these answers. And at the end of

919
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: the day, if you're fact checking all of these answers,

920
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: are they really answers. I mean, it's almost more work

921
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: than in the beginning of when we went to the web.

922
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: You would type in a search term, you'd go to

923
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: that website. If the website was trusted, you would trust

924
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: that information, and you could tell if a website is

925
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: trusted most of the time if it's from a big name.

926
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes you couldn't. And that's where misinformation on the web

927
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: comes into play again. So many things you can do

928
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: with this. I just I really really find this fascinating.

929
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm trying to see if there's anything else that Google

930
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: says that's interesting about this. I think the main thing

931
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: to know is barred dot Google dot com if you

932
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: want to sign up and try it out. I've just

933
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: been having a ton of fun. Can you can ask

934
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: follow up questions? So if you're writing one thing, you

935
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: can write a follow up question and say, hey, you know,

936
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: I'd like to know more about that. You can modify

937
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: kind of the answer that it gives you by asking

938
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: it follow up questions. It's really just phenomenal tools and

939
00:48:55,719 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 1: it's free. This is free, and it's changing. Its going

940
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: to change everything, especially as they figure out how this

941
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: is going to be integrated into everyday life, how Google's

942
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: going to use this, and most importantly, how are they

943
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: going to get stuff right? Because that's the thing that

944
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for is when when can we trust this

945
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: to really be solid and to give us answers that

946
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: we can go with. All Right, I see a bunch

947
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: of you waiting online to uh to talk to me,

948
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 1: So I will get to more of your calls coming

949
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: up next at triple eight Rich one O one. That's

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight rich one O one eight eight eight

951
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Speaker 1: seven four to two four one zero one. Email also

952
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: open hello at rich on tech dot TV. I'll be

953
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back to rich on tech Rich DeMuro

954
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: here we were just talking about AI and Google barred

955
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: and swell seven on Twitter rights. If I as barred

956
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: to write a song with me, who owns the copyright?

957
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: Good question. This is what it's being figured out right

958
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: now as we speak. I mean, there's a lot of

959
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: a lot of people using AI now for everything from

960
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 1: first drafts of things to artwork, and it's all being

961
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 1: debated in the communities that are most at stake here

962
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: or have the most steak here. I just did a

963
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: story with some artists that, you know. They're arguing that

964
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: all these generative AI art platforms are being trained using

965
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: artwork that other people made, and so how does that

966
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: factor into it? And it's really some interesting questions. I

967
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: think Hollywood's also trying to figure it out with script writing,

968
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: but as of right now, seems like the WGA is

969
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: saying that if AI is used to start the script,

970
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: the person who actually sort of polishes things up or

971
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: writes it after that is the person who is the

972
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: writer of it, and you don't even have to give

973
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: credit to AI. So there's a lot of things that

974
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: are going to be figured out here. I don't think

975
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: it's going to happen overnight, because anytime you have technology,

976
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: it's always sort of ahead of the rules and regulations

977
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: and laws and so. But when there's money at sake, yes,

978
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: people will figure it out. Turtis is in Fountain Valley, California. Turtis,

979
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: you're on with Rich.

980
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 9: I Rich, thank you for taking my call.

981
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's on your mind?

982
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 9: So what happened is I have some fluorescent lights in

983
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 9: my kitchen and they grew up in the ceiling and

984
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 9: I replaced them as Elie okay, And since I replaced him,

985
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 9: and that was only about two weeks ago, it's interfering

986
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 9: with some of the some of the channels that we get,

987
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 9: not all of them, but just some of them. Now,

988
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 9: I didn't know it was an nine filter that I

989
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 9: could put in.

990
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 4: To stop that, or or what might be.

991
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: What kind of lights are they? And what type of

992
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 1: TV reception are we talking about? Were talking over the

993
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: air antenna?

994
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, we have a haven't having an old type antenna

995
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 9: up in the attic that was up there when I

996
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 9: bought the house site thirty five years ago.

997
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 4: Oh wow, so we're just using that.

998
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 9: Uh, you know, we did HDTV of course, and usually

999
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 9: we get decent signals. But once I put those LEDs in. Uh,

1000
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 9: it's been interfering with the signals?

1001
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: How how does it happen? So you turn on so

1002
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: you've got the TV tunto a channel, You turn on

1003
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: the LED lights and what happens? Everything just starts going haywire,

1004
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: it goes.

1005
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 9: It just goes to a like a background of a picture,

1006
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 9: and then it just says, no signals.

1007
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 4: Wow. You turn the lights off.

1008
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 9: And you know in a few sections it will come

1009
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 9: back onto the to the channel.

1010
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I mean LEDs uh could emit some electromagnetic

1011
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: radiation according to some of the research I'm seeing. So,

1012
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: but I would think that modern bulbs would be shielded

1013
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: enough to not make that happen in such a pronounced way.

1014
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: So what I would think is what types of lights

1015
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: are these?

1016
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 4: Uh?

1017
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 9: They're they're LED, but they're not the two types that

1018
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 9: were there linear or three feet long okay, all of

1019
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 9: them in the ceiling in the kitchen, in a reverse

1020
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 9: soft type thing like about eight or ten inches of Okay.

1021
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: So these are these are pretty sizable light bulbs and

1022
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: this is a sizable array. And it also sounds like

1023
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 1: are they underneath the antenna as well as the antenna.

1024
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 4: On top of them right now.

1025
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 9: Unfortunately, the antenna wires. You know, we have like three

1026
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 9: different connections in our house, and so antenna comes out

1027
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 9: and there's a split or and then it goes to

1028
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 9: the other ones in the house and unfortunately right on

1029
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 9: top of ord.

1030
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1031
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: Okay, well, okay, so's a couple of things maybe you

1032
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: can try. I don't think you want to replace all

1033
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: the lights because that's that's gonna be a problem. But

1034
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 1: maybe can use like a higher gauge wire that's maybe

1035
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: more shielded. Like, is there like a better cable you

1036
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: can use that that you can run up there or

1037
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: is that not an option?

1038
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 9: You mean as far as the TV cable.

1039
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, like the cable that's yeah, that might be

1040
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: your best bet to start.

1041
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 4: There, a shielded, shielded TV cable.

1042
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would try that first, and and try that

1043
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe even if you can get up in

1044
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: the ceiling and uh just re route where that cable goes,

1045
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: maybe keep it, you know, more towards the edge of

1046
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: the house or more towards the sides. But I would

1047
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: try to get like maybe a thicker cable that is

1048
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: more shielded to to sort of shield off some of

1049
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: the radiation that's coming out of these light bulbs. But

1050
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: also I'd be a little concerned standing under these light

1051
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 1: bulbs if they're causing this much interference with your TV set,

1052
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: because that could be a problem as well. But turnus

1053
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: good question, really really something I haven't thought of. But

1054
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing I could kind of relate

1055
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: is with the Wi Fi connections using the microwave. People

1056
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: don't realize how much the microwave could impact your Wi Fi.

1057
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: So if you're having trouble with your WiFi, could be

1058
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: your microwave. Coming up next, we are visiting Outer Edge LA.

1059
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Speaker 1: This is an nftxpo. Rich on Tech Coming up next,

1060
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Speaker 1: rich DeMuro here, rich on Tech, Welcome back to the show. Recently,

1061
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: I went to Outer EDGELA, a festival that celebrates the

1062
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: future of the Internet. We're talking Web three stuff like crypto, NFTs,

1063
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 1: and the blockchain. First I talked to Outer Edge LA

1064
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Speaker 1: co founder Josh Kreeger.

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Speaker 10: We wanted to create an innovation vessel this celebrate all

1066
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 10: the incredible converging technologies that are kind of coming together

1067
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 10: in this special moment in time, and we just think

1068
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 10: LA is the app center of so much creativity from

1069
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 10: high technology to art, entertainment, music, fashion, comedy.

1070
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 11: It all happens here, and so we want to bring

1071
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 11: all of.

1072
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 10: Those communities together and talk about where this is all

1073
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 10: is going.

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Speaker 1: And so, explain to me what's an NFT.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, So the.

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Speaker 10: Technical sort of definition, it's a non fungible token. But

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Speaker 10: I like to ask a couple of questions when someone

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Speaker 10: asked me that question, It's like, is there anything in

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Speaker 10: the world physically that you collect?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 10: Is there any group that you're a member of? Usually

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Speaker 10: the answer for ninety percent of the world is yes. Essentially,

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Speaker 10: what we're doing is we're offering a digital sort of

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Speaker 10: sort of value right of some sort of IP or

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Speaker 10: some sort of ownership, digital ownership that's verifiable using blockchain

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Speaker 10: technology and smart contracts.

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Speaker 1: How far have you come with this technology over the

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Speaker 1: past couple of years since we started hearing about it?

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Speaker 10: Oh man, you know, there's a lot of analogies, like

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Speaker 10: one day in web three it might be like seven weeks,

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Speaker 10: or one month is like seven years.

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Speaker 11: It's been an.

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Speaker 10: Incredible rapid explosion of innovation, and it's come a long way,

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Speaker 10: but it's still the first inning.

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Speaker 11: A lot of people are like well, where's all this going?

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Speaker 11: Was this a bubble? We don't really see it that way.

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Speaker 10: We see it as sort of an experimentation phase over

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Speaker 10: the last year and a half and now it's about

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Speaker 10: real utility.

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Speaker 11: The reason we're doing this event and calling it out.

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Speaker 10: Of edge LA is to sort of talk about the

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Speaker 10: real use cases for brands, for membership groups, and for

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Speaker 10: society as a whole.

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Speaker 11: And we just see that as the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Where do you see the interest lie with when Crypto's up,

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Speaker 1: cryptos down with NFTs.

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Speaker 10: Well, what I would say is that there's just been

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Speaker 10: volatility in the markets globally, right, and so obviously smaller

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Speaker 10: markets have more volatility, and crypto is a smaller market

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Speaker 10: relatively speaking to the macroeconomy. At the same same time,

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Speaker 10: I see the interest has been more focused on sort

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Speaker 10: of the everyday use cases which we're talking about here.

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Speaker 10: So yes, like we've kind of gotten rid of a

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Speaker 10: layer of speculation in the market and that has made

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Speaker 10: the market relative, you know, I would say a little

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Speaker 10: bit smaller than it was, say a year ago, but

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Speaker 10: now it's growing again with people that are looking at

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Speaker 10: true utility.

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Speaker 1: Next, I met up with Nihar Nilakante who runs Ecosapiens.

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Speaker 12: Ecosapiens is the world's first carbon backed NFT and it's

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Speaker 12: a digital piece. It's a piece of digital art that

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Speaker 12: offsets your entire years worth of carbon footprint and just

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Speaker 12: one click.

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Speaker 1: How do you do that?

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Speaker 12: We work with a carbon project developer in Kenya, so

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Speaker 12: we're actually working with a Kenyan soil carbon project. We

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Speaker 12: bring those credits on chain, right onto the blockchain ethereum,

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Speaker 12: and we disguise it as a piece of digital art

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Speaker 12: called Ecosapian.

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Speaker 1: And how much does something like this cost me for

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Speaker 1: the year? About one thousand dollars And what's the impact?

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Speaker 12: It's sixteen tons of carbon and more so, it's an

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Speaker 12: entire year's worth of carbon fort right all your flights,

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Speaker 12: you know, miles, et cetera. And it ends up planning

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Speaker 12: over eight hundred trees and just let first go. You know,

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Speaker 12: I come from a climate background, actually an in venture capital,

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Speaker 12: and when I was thinking about how climate changed to

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Speaker 12: be better addressed in society, a lot of it came

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Speaker 12: down to sort of tokenization of carbon credits and just

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Speaker 12: you know, using NFTs as a way to get people

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Speaker 12: to make an impact. And that was really the opportunity

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Speaker 12: for me is like maybe you could get people, Maybe

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Speaker 12: you could create a way for people to make an

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Speaker 12: impact on the planet if you disguise impact as you know.

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Speaker 6: Art.

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Speaker 1: Sanjay Ragavon is with a startup called Roofstock. They're building

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Speaker 1: a system that lets you buy rental properties one online

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Speaker 1: via NFTs.

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Speaker 13: About eighteen months back, we started a web three division

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Speaker 13: to make it faster, easier and more transparent to buy

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Speaker 13: and sell dental properties. And so our web three division

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Speaker 13: allows you to actually buy a real rental property in

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Speaker 13: the US using NFT technologies, and you can also get

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Speaker 13: alone on the blockchain, so and the whole process can

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Speaker 13: be done in a few minutes as opposed to the

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Speaker 13: several weeks it takes to buy a house in the US,

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Speaker 13: whereas here on the blockchain, you can instantaneously become a

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Speaker 13: property owner. And we've actually sold three of these so far.

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Speaker 13: This is on open Sea. We sold one last week.

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Speaker 13: This property is located in Georgia suburb of Atlanta, and

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Speaker 13: it's sold for two hundred and eighteen thousand dollars. But

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Speaker 13: it literally took minutes to close this property. And it's

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Speaker 13: a physical property, it's a real property. Yeah, what do

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Speaker 13: you think this means for the future of real estate? So,

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Speaker 13: you know, I kind of compare it to the world

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Speaker 13: where we used to hail a yellow cap to go

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Speaker 13: to the airport before and then lift an uber came

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Speaker 13: along and that changed everything. Ultimately, I think the convenience

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Speaker 13: of getting something faster, cheaper, and just a much more

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Speaker 13: pleasant experience for the buyer is going to make a

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Speaker 13: lot of difference. The fact that we've now done this

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Speaker 13: as a pilot, we've sold a few homes proofs that

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Speaker 13: it can be done in a legally compliant manner, and

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Speaker 13: we hope that this kind of technology catches on and

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Speaker 13: more and more people see the benefits are doing this

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Speaker 13: way in the future.

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Speaker 1: Digital art is still a big use case for NFTs.

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Speaker 1: Nadia Tiger is with Snark dot r. They're selling NFT

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Speaker 1: art that changes over time.

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Speaker 2: With dynamic and FTS, it's a co creation process. You

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Speaker 2: as a collector, become a part of the final artwork.

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Speaker 1: So why would someone want to own something like this?

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Speaker 2: Why people want to own art? It's the same like

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Speaker 2: for what they did for thousands of years, people collected sculptures, paintings,

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Speaker 2: and now there is a digital era that we are

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Speaker 2: entering with such an interesting angle with blockchain technology. That's

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Speaker 2: still a niche, but we are still on the surface.

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Speaker 2: I believe of this what actually blockchain technology could provide

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Speaker 2: for art.

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Speaker 1: Finally, I talked to jack O Hollering of Scale Labs

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Speaker 1: about the ups and downs of all things digital. How's

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Speaker 1: the NFT market changed in the past year or so,

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Speaker 1: you know, I.

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Speaker 11: Think it's really maturing.

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Speaker 14: From the outside optically, it may look like it's shrunk

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Speaker 14: and that it's gotten smaller, but it's actually the real

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Speaker 14: growth is really coming forward. So the people here today

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Speaker 14: are real builders. They're building with real use cases for NFTs.

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Speaker 14: I think a year ago was more like what can

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Speaker 14: we turn into an NFT? And now it's what can

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Speaker 14: an NFT do? And so the utility and the core

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Speaker 14: functional value is the center focus at this event.

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Speaker 1: And so what should the average person, what should they

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Speaker 1: know about this market?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: I think I think the same rules apply. Look for value,

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Speaker 14: look for real use cases. And I think there are

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Speaker 14: a lot of NFTs that were quick money grabs, and

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Speaker 14: I say steer clear of those. But there are other

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Speaker 14: amazing NFT projects launching that don't even say that the

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Speaker 14: product is an NFT and they use the core values

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Speaker 14: of the tech. So my advice is look for those

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Speaker 14: types of applications, those types of use case. If you're

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Speaker 14: interested in NFTs, want to own NFTs or leverage them or.

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Speaker 1: Use them, And what is the core value of this technology?

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Speaker 14: One is immutable ownership.

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Speaker 11: So if you have an NFT, it's yours.

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Speaker 14: The other from a user perspective, and you can get

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Speaker 14: gated entry, special access, special access in games or in

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Speaker 14: different online communities or in the real world at ticketing

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Speaker 14: and events, et cetera. But from a build or a

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Speaker 14: creator side, you can actually open up to a global

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Speaker 14: marketplace and capture royalties in an automated fashion. And so

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Speaker 14: I may create an NFT, you buy it, and you

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Speaker 14: sell it to someone else in an automated way. I'm

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Speaker 14: able to capture royalties without you needing to be at

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Speaker 14: my storefront. So it opens up economies and it smooths

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Speaker 14: out the economic principles in trading and essentially creating a

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Speaker 14: more effective and efficient market.

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Speaker 1: So compared it to like a baseball card.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, well, baseball cards are great. There's a huge secondary

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Speaker 14: market for baseball cards. There are NFTs that are like

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Speaker 14: baseball cards. But imagine if that same baseball card let

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Speaker 14: you buy season tickets before people who didn't have that card,

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Speaker 14: They can give you discounts when you came to the game,

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Speaker 14: you had discounts on merchandise for your favorite team if

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Speaker 14: you held that card. These are and if I wanted

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Speaker 14: to sell it, I didn't have to go talk to

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Speaker 14: the team, I could just sell it to you. And

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Speaker 14: the team is actually going to capture revenue during that

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Speaker 14: transfer and not try to mitigate me my ability to.

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Speaker 1: Sell it or my ability to own it. So is

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Speaker 1: this exciting for the future of things?

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Speaker 14: But my prediction is that we're going to see NFTs

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Speaker 14: living across all of the products we use, but we're

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Speaker 14: not going to call them NFTs.

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Speaker 11: There are going to be new names for them.

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Speaker 14: The value will come from the intrinsic value and the

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Speaker 14: utility value of the products, as opposed to the speculative

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Speaker 14: hype which we saw in this last wave for.

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Speaker 1: The market cycle. To see my TV segment on Outer

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Speaker 1: Edge LA, go to rich on Tech dot TV more

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Speaker 1: rich On Tech after this, Welcome back to rich On Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich to Mirror so here a tech reporter at KTLA

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Speaker 1: Channel five in Los Angeles hanging out with you talking technology.

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Speaker 1: By the way, if you want to watch my TV segments,

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Speaker 1: which I cover a variety of tech topics, you can

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Speaker 1: just go to Rich on tech dot tv. I've got

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Speaker 1: a cool YouTube playlist of all of the stories that

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Speaker 1: I do. It's all it runs the gamut, all kinds

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Speaker 1: of stuff. I mean that NFT expo you just heard

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Speaker 1: me at. I did a video piece there so you

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Speaker 1: can see, you know, bring that to life. What else

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Speaker 1: I've got all kinds of We interview a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: a lot of like a wide range from apps. Let's see.

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Speaker 1: I went to the Student Television Network conference, which is

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Speaker 1: just kind of fun for me. We talked about last

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Speaker 1: week the self heating baby bottle, home pod speaker review.

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Speaker 1: Got my lucid EV review, not really a review, it's

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Speaker 1: just more of like a look see on that one.

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Speaker 1: All kinds of good information anyway, All at richon tech

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Speaker 1: dot tv. Chris is in Miami, Chris, You're on.

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Speaker 4: With Rich Hey Rich, good afternoon, stir.

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Speaker 15: Thank you for having me on. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I love your radio show.

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Speaker 1: By the way, well, thank you. That means a lot.

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Speaker 1: But what's it like in Miami right now because it

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Speaker 1: just finally stopped raining in uh Los Angeles.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I've been paying attention to the well KFI am

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Speaker 15: down there in LA as they were talking about the

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Speaker 15: snow recently and lots of rain and flooding and building

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Speaker 15: an arch and so you know, usually all the fun

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Speaker 15: stuff that you get up.

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Speaker 1: On the radio down the well, it doesn't that's usually

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Speaker 1: not what happens here. When it rains here, everyone goes

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Speaker 1: nuts because it never rains and so we're just not prepared.

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Speaker 1: Like people don't even have like roofs out here in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles because it's just all sunny. You don't need them.

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Speaker 1: So now I'm just kidding, but you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: It's like we just don't even think about this stuff

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Speaker 1: until it rains. You're like, oh no, I got to

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Speaker 1: bring in the furniture outside like people live like anyway,

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01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: there's just it's indoor outdoor living here. Like people literally

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01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: have their backyards set up as like you know inside

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01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: like there's carpets and stuff because it doesn't rain that much. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I digress. What's on your mind?

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Speaker 4: Chris? Now?

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Speaker 15: You know what I wanted to just drop into your

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Speaker 15: world for a few minutes, and getting on air was

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Speaker 15: very easy.

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Speaker 4: It was a pleasant and really pleasant experience for me.

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Speaker 15: But I just wanted to find out I certainly have

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01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 15: a WiFi right so I have the first generation Wi

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01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 15: Fi router, and I have.

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Speaker 4: All new cats, you know, iphons, iPad, Apple.

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Speaker 15: Watches, Imax, etc. But looking at the Google Wi Fi routers,

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Speaker 15: they have the new one with the Wi Fi sixteen,

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01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 15: and then they had the one before that, which has

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Speaker 15: the potential for being good, but it's it's hiring cont

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Speaker 15: actually than their newer ones. But a lot of routers

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Speaker 15: on the market. Wanted to throw it at you, see

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Speaker 15: if you could toss me something back the ideas on

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Speaker 15: do I need to be using sixty right now? I'm

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Speaker 15: thinking planning for the future.

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Speaker 4: That sounds like a good idea.

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Speaker 7: In the interim, I.

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Speaker 15: Don't know, So I figured i'd see what you have

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Speaker 15: to say about it and then don't have to.

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Speaker 4: Keep me very long on the car. Just wanted to

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Speaker 4: ask a couple of questions.

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Speaker 1: But all right, good, good question. This is definitely a

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Speaker 1: topic that a lot of people are curious about because

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Speaker 1: and I sort of talked about these mesh routers earlier

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01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: but they are very popular because it used to be

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Speaker 1: had one router in the center of your house. Your

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01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: cable company probably gave it to you, and it would

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01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 1: put the signal out and it basically never ever reached

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Speaker 1: all corners of your home, so there'd always be spots

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Speaker 1: in your home, dead spots where the Internet just didn't work.

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Speaker 1: And this company euro came along and came up with

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Speaker 1: a mesh Wi Fi router, which uses different access points

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Speaker 1: that you put in your home, so instead of one router,

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01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: you kind of have like three or four sometimes it's two,

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01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: maybe three if you have a bigger house, and then

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Speaker 1: those will work throughout the house and they all connect

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Speaker 1: together to make one solid, good signal. So you are

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Speaker 1: asking specifically about the Google routers, which now I think

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Speaker 1: it's like the Google Nest. It's let's see what do

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Speaker 1: they go by. Yeah, Google nets is what they call them.

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Speaker 4: And so.

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01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,839
Speaker 1: I feel bad saying this because you know, I like Google.

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Speaker 1: I really love Google Next WiFi Pro that's what they

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Speaker 1: call them. I love Google, but when it comes to

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Speaker 1: their products. The problem with Google, Chris, is that Google

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01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: is all over the place, and I feel like they

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01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: do not put a lot of focus or attention into

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01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: things for very long. Not everything, but certain things. And

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Speaker 1: so my fear with going with this Nest Wi Fi

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01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 1: Pro is that you purchase it and then Google says, eh,

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01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: we're kind of over that, We're not going to support

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01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: that anymore. I feel like there's companies out there that

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01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: are a little bit more dedicated to this lineup than Google.

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01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: Google has a lot of stuff out there, and the

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Speaker 1: Wi Fi routers are just one, so I think you'll

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01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: be fine with them, and I've tested them. They work well,

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01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,679
Speaker 1: they're nice, they look pretty good. I haven't speci tested

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Speaker 1: this latest version that you're talking about, the Wi Fi

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Speaker 1: Pro with six to E, but I personally use EUO

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01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 1: E ER. They sort of invented the genre, and they

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01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: are now owned by Amazon, which that's not my favorite.

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Speaker 1: But the good news is I don't think that Euro's

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01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: going away anytime soon, or that Amazon's going to lose

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01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: interest in them anytime soon, because it's it's a pretty

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01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: big business at this point, and it's a pretty viable

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01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: business and it's a pretty well known name. So I

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Speaker 1: personally would probably look at Euro first and foremost if

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Speaker 1: you have a problem with Amazon owning it. I mean

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Speaker 1: if you're going with Google, then I don't think you would.

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Speaker 1: But the cool thing about Eero too is that they

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01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: just have a lot of products and a lot of

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Speaker 1: these things work together. They work pretty well. The downside

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Speaker 1: is that they can be expensive, and these things are

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Speaker 1: not cheap. So if you look at the different euro

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Speaker 1: they do have a Wi Fi a six E, which

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01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think you need right now. But if

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Speaker 1: you're buying this system and wanting it to last for

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Speaker 1: the next couple of years, which generally we don't switch

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Speaker 1: out Wi Fi very often, so the sixty might be

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01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: a good way to go, but you're going to pay

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Speaker 1: a lot for that. I mean you're looking at a

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Speaker 1: three pack is four hundred and eleven dollars, a two

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01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 1: pack is three hundred. So the thing about these different

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01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 1: systems too, the higher you get, the more internet they

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01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: can handle. So if you're getting say a four hundred

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01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 1: megabit connection from your internet company, you probably don't need

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01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 1: these pro models. But if you're getting a gig and above,

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Speaker 1: that's when you want to get into these pro models

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01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 1: because they can they can handle that higher bandwidth. So

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Speaker 1: that's really the delineation there. Now, if you want something

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Speaker 1: that's that's much cheaper and a company that I like,

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Speaker 1: and I think they're doing a really good job. It's

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Speaker 1: called Villo Vlo and these are some folks that deflected

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Speaker 1: from other companies that used to build this stuff. And

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01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: you can look at their biography and their their company

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01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: history to see what I mean by that. But they've

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01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: got some smart people working at this company that I

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Speaker 1: think is doing a really good job, and it's a

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Speaker 1: lot less expensive. And I think the main thing that

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Speaker 1: may not be as slick with the Villo routers that

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Speaker 1: you would get with something like Ero or Google is

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Speaker 1: the software. And I think the software leaves a little

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Speaker 1: bit to be desired. But the functionality of the system

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Speaker 1: is actually really good, especially for how inexpensive it is.

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01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 1: So if you look at their Wi Fi six system,

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01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: it's one hundred and fifty five bucks for a two

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01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 1: pack and that's probably going to be pretty good. And

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Speaker 1: I've tested this one personally. It's very good. The speeds

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01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: are very good, it works really well, and so if

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01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: you want something that's a little bit cheaper, that might

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01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: be the way to go. If you want it really inexpensive,

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01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 1: you can just go with their original that's ninety nine

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01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: dollars for a three pack. So a three pack Villo

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01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: Mesh Wi Fi system ninety nine bucks and you're not

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01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 1: gonna have any dead zones in your house because I've

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01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: tested this personally and it works really well. It's fast,

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01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 1: it's efficient, and it does what you need. So Chris,

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Speaker 1: you're asking my opinion, that's how I would rank it.

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Speaker 1: I personally would go with Ero, then Villo, then Google.

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Speaker 1: And it's not that I don't love Google. I do

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01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 1: like what they do. I just feel like with their

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01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: software and hardware, or with their hardware specifically, you just

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01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: never know. You wake up one morning and Google says, oh,

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01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: we've discontinued our routers and that's it. Now, where's your support,

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01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: where's your service? All that stuff? So good question. That's

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01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: what I would do. All right, let's real quick talk

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Speaker 1: about Twitter. I know this is everyone's favorite topic. I

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01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 1: know two people right now that are actively victims of

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01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: being hacked on Twitter. So I don't know if that's

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01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: going around right now or if you know Twitter has gone.

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01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 1: It's almost like a rock tumbler right now, like Twitter

1431
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 1: is just all over the place. But the thing you

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01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 1: need to know about Twitter is that two things. Number one,

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01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,719
Speaker 1: you can't verify your account with a text message anymore.

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01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 1: You need to turn on two factor authentication if you

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01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 1: want to keep using Twitter. The only way you can

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01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: do it right now is by using an authentication app.

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01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 1: The apps I recommend our Google Authenticator, Microsoft Authenticator, or

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01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 1: an app called auth the au thy. You sign up

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01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 1: with those programs and instead of getting a text message,

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01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: these programs will generate a code every thirty seconds or

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01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: something like that that you can enter into this app

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01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: to authorize that it's you trying to log in. If

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01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 1: you don't enter that code, the app will not let

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01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: you log in. You need to turn this on your

1445
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: Twitter account two factor authentication right now before you get hacked, because,

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01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 1: believe me, these people are looking after these Twitter accounts

1447
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: because they know there's a change right now, and they

1448
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 1: know there's an opportunity to get in there. So please

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01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: turn it on. All right, pull line's open eighty to eight.

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01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 1: Rich one oh one, coming back after this. Welcome back

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01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:57,799
Speaker 1: to Rich on Tech. My name is Rich Demiro, talking

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01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: technology with you. Uh, let's go to Susan in Lancaster, Susan.

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01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 1: You're on with Rich.

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01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 8: Hi, Rich, I have a sister who is she's not

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01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 8: computer phobic, but she's basically a ludite and her computer

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01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 8: is dying. I wanted to find out if a Lenovo

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01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 8: what is it called the Lenovo? Uh, it's a chrome Book.

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01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 9: Hang on, I'll get my thing right here.

1459
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 8: I'm driving, so of course nothing's working.

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01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the.

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01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 3: Five to one like.

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01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 1: Sorry, and so it's a it's a Lenovo Chromebook. Basically,

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01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 1: I don't want you to distract.

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01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:51,879
Speaker 8: From driving there by the idea flex five.

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01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,560
Speaker 1: One Okay, Uh, so and so, and you're getting this

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01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: as a gift for someone, Well.

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01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 8: No, I'm I'm I'm helping her to get a new computer,

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01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 8: and I want to get her something that's really really

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01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 8: easy intuitive, and the speed and the capabilities aren't that important.

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01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 1: Okay.

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01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 8: You know she goes online and she does email and

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01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 8: stuff like that.

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01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 1: Okay, and this is you said this a Chromebook, right?

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01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, I think that's the way to

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01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: go for someone who is not necessarily can computer savvy. Now,

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01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, Chromebooks are great. I mean there's

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01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 1: you can do pretty much ninety nine percent of what

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01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: we do on the computers these days is through a

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01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: web browser, and a chromebook is basically a glorified web browser.

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01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: And what's nice about it is that there's no viruses

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01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 1: to worry about. The software is super simple. It's it's

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01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,759
Speaker 1: pretty much always up to date. Like there's no lengthy

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01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: software update installation kind of situations, you know, if there's

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01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 1: ever an update, it just pretty much puts a little

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01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: notification in the corner saying, hey, start your computer to

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01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 1: bring it up to date. And you say, okay, which

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01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 1: I think your friend can handle. The only thing I question,

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01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 1: do they need a computer or they be okay with

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01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,799
Speaker 1: a lap a tablet like a like just like an iPad?

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01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 1: Or is that too complication?

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01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 8: She has an iPad but manipulating stuff. I mean she

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01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:24,480
Speaker 8: does sometimes write stuff. And I don't think the keyboards

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01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 8: on the tabs are all that great.

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01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 1: No, I would agree with that. If you're if you're

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01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 1: if you want a keyboard and you want to type,

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01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 1: I think that the computer, like the laptop form factor

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01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 1: is still the best for that. Yeah, so I would

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01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 1: agree with that. I would agree with that. Now, how

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Speaker 1: did you land upon this specific Lenovo?

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01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 8: Well, I was I was just and around looking at

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01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,640
Speaker 8: different options, and I saw that you can get this

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01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 8: kind of thing for you know, under three around three

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01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 8: hundred dollars, Yeah, which is amazing. So rather than get

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01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 8: a whole computer, I thought, well, maybe that's the way.

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01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 4: To go for that for that price.

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01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again the chromebooks are are quite inexpensive. There

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01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 1: are some that are even cheaper than that. But I

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01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 1: would say to get a decent spect out system, you

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01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 1: probably want something that's you know, at least three hundred

1511
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 1: maybe four hundred depends. But you said, it doesn't really

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01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: matter with the capabilities. As long as they can get

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01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 1: online and do their email and all that good stuff,

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01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 1: it's going to handle that. It's really when you try

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01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 1: to do things like you know, when it comes to

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01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 1: zoom and the video conferencing, that could be a little

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01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:39,560
Speaker 1: bit slower. Okay, she's not no way, okay, so no,

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01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: no zoom. She's not doing you know, sixteen call, sixteen

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01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: person calls.

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01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 8: No, she's not editing videos or anything like.

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01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, then I think this will be just fine.

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01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 1: I think that, uh, you know, if you want to

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01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: see some recommended chromebooks. You know, I've been playing with

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01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: the Acer five fourteen. I really like that one. It

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01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: might be a little it's probably a little more expensive,

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01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 1: so maybe not. But acer is A is a well

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01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: known chromebook manufacturer. Lenovo definitely known for chromebooks as well.

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01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 1: Those are probably the two biggest brands that I would

1529
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 1: recommend for those things.

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01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 8: So great, Yeah, great, okay, thank you so much.

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01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 4: That was exactly what I needed to know.

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01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 1: All right, Susan, enjoy and uh, you know, give your

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01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,560
Speaker 1: friends some lessons on uh, you know, get them on,

1534
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: like you know, some of these different things that you do.

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01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: You sound like you're a little bit more savvy.

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01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:32,640
Speaker 4: So well, I've been on.

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01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 8: I've been working with computers since the early eighties, so okay,

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01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 8: I could tell I had I had the first.

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01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's that's going back. That's the that's like

1540
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 1: the Mac that was named after like Steve Steve, right,

1541
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: isn't that like the old Mac computer?

1542
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was the first. It's pre uh you know,

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01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:57,799
Speaker 8: pre the uh the little one where you needed the disc.

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01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh wow. Yeah, I mean I'm not going

1545
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 1: back that old, but I remember like the floppy drive,

1546
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 1: and I remember having like megabytes of information on a

1547
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 1: floppy like I mean now, the fact that I just

1548
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 1: downloaded yesterday an app to my phone. It was like

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01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 1: ninety megabytes on my phone and I'm like, this is

1550
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: wild to think that this came to my phone in

1551
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 1: about three seconds versus back in the day you'd run

1552
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 1: your whole computer on a hard drive that was like

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01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: twenty megabytes and this little tiny flash drive that carried

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01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of megabytes of data. So we've

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01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: come a long way in our in our lifetimes.

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01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 8: Yeah, we sure had well. Back on with a baby Mac,

1557
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 8: it literally had to take a disc in and out.

1558
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 8: To run a program, you'd have to take take.

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01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 4: The main disc out.

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01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, it's a new disc in and run it

1561
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 8: from there.

1562
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 4: Was but it was so cute that you did.

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01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 1: Well, we have certainly come a long way. It's it's

1564
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 1: for the better or for the worse. Have you gotten

1565
01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 1: on TikTok or.

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01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 9: Anything like that, because that's say, no, I'm not, I

1567
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 9: stay off social media.

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01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 8: Well I don't nothing.

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01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 1: You'd probably you'd probably get a kick out of Like

1570
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 1: even if you went on YouTube and just kind of

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01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 1: search for that Lisa computer.

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01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 4: It might.

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01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say that might bring back some memories.

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01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 1: Yeah right, all right, Susan, were you headed? You said

1575
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 1: you're in the car. Where are you going?

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01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm going down to Brentwood to an organizing client.

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01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 9: I go and help her organize.

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01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 1: Nice. I used to live in that area. Very nice. Okay, Well,

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01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 1: enjoy Enjoy the beauty of Brentwood, California.

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01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 8: From Brentwood Golf Course.

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01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 1: I used to run around that all the time. Enjoy. Yeah,

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01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: oh yeah, many many times.

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01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 16: Yeah.

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01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:47,560
Speaker 1: All right, Susan, thanks so much for calling. Appreciate it.

1585
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 1: And thanks for helping out your friend. That's uh, that's

1586
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: a good friend. When you help them pick out a computer,

1587
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 1: that's always always good. All Right, We've got more of

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01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 1: the show coming up. Phone lines are open triple eight

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01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 1: Rich one on one eight eight eight seven four two

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01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 1: for one zero one. I don't do a lot of

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01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 1: different activities, but I do run. That's my main thing.

1592
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: So you will see me running pretty much all over

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01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: in any city I go to.

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01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 6: It.

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01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 1: It's the only thing you can do in any city

1596
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: that you go to. You can just go out your hotel,

1597
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 1: take a run, and you know you don't need to

1598
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 1: have any equipment. It's awesome. All right. My name is

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01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 1: Rich Debiro more rich on tech coming up after this.

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01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Rich on tech rich on tech dot

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01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 1: TV is my website eight eight eight rich one oh

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01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight seven four to two four one

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01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: zero one. Man, we got a lot of calls. Should

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01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 1: I take some calls? Or should I do a story?

1605
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 1: I feel like I need to do this. Let's see,

1606
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 1: let's do the story. Uh. Verizon free trial. This is

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01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 1: brand new. If you want to try Verizon, if you've

1608
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: been wondering is Verizon right for me? You can try

1609
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 1: thirty days of service for free, and you can sign

1610
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 1: up right from your phone. I would say it's simple,

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01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: but I tried to do it for my phone and

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01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 1: my phone got stuck, so I wasn't able to actually

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01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 1: get this to work. But I'm telling you because it

1614
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 1: will probably work on your phone. I got to try

1615
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 1: this again. But if you have an unlocked mobile phone

1616
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 1: that means that you've paid off your phone, or you

1617
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 1: have an unlocked phone to begin with, you can sign

1618
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 1: up by downloading the my Verizon app. And once you

1619
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 1: download the app, right on the home screen, it will say, hey,

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01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 1: you want to try a free trial if it recognizes

1621
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 1: that your phone is capable. And this uses what's called

1622
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 1: an eSIM, and eSIM is the whole new thing that

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01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: everyone's using now. It's a simcard that is virtual, it's

1624
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 1: in your phone. You don't need one of those little

1625
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 1: kind of cards anymore on your phone that you plug

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01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 1: in or pop in. I guess I should say everyone's

1627
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 1: going into these eSIMs. So you can literally activate your

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01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 1: phone right from the app. It will give you thirty

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01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 1: days of Verizon five G service, unlimited talking text, up

1630
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: to one hundred gigs of four G or five G data,

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01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 1: and either four EIGHTYP streaming on four G or four

1632
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: K streaming if you have five GUW, which not every

1633
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 1: phone supports, but if it does, it'll pick that up

1634
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 1: and you'll get four K video at any time during

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01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:22,639
Speaker 1: your thirty day free trial. You can easily transfer your

1636
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 1: existing number to Verizon and pick from one of their plans.

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01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: But this this is new. So this is kind of

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01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: like a new trend we're seeing with all of these

1639
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 1: wireless networks because they're all using e sims. It's very

1640
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 1: easy for them to offer a free trial, and so

1641
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: you can sign up either online or right from your phone.

1642
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 1: And I think I know that T Mobile does it.

1643
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: I know that Verizon does it. I'm not sure if

1644
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 1: AT and T does it, but a lot of the

1645
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: MV and o's do it as well. So you can

1646
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 1: get a free trial test run right from your phone.

1647
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 1: And I've done this on a couple of them. One

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01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,600
Speaker 1: of them is US Mobile. I signed up for that

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01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 1: one and as signed up, it took me like minute

1650
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: and I you know, your phone is activated instantly. So

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01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: again I put links to everything I mentioned. I'm doing

1652
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 1: a really good job now of doing the links to

1653
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 1: everything I mentioned on the website rich on tech dot TV.

1654
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,640
Speaker 1: Once the podcast is published of the show, it'll have

1655
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 1: everything you need in the show notes, so look for that.

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01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to Gloria in the Sand Fernando Valley,

1657
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:27,719
Speaker 1: where it's always Sonny except for the past couple weeks.

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01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 1: How you doing, Gloria?

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01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 5: Okay, thanks for calling in.

1660
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 1: What's what's on your mind?

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01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 5: I need a new phone. This one keeps fading in

1662
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 5: and out when I talk to people. And not only that,

1663
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 5: it takes terrible pictures. It's a Moto G It really

1664
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 5: is terrible. And there's another question.

1665
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 1: The two questions, what is this the two for one show?

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01:25:55,960 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: That's what's the other question? I have an answer for

1667
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 1: the first one, so that's pretty easy. But go ahead.

1668
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 1: What's your second question?

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01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 5: Then I go on site and I'm putting in like

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01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 5: frankstance just now when you suggested that aufie, I tried

1671
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 5: to do that and I gave it my g le

1672
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 5: me see Yahoo account and it said no, it didn't

1673
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 5: accept it. And I thought, I'm new to you. How

1674
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 5: do you know I have another account? And so they

1675
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 5: seem to always know I have a Gmail account and

1676
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 5: they pretty much want the Gmail account instead of the

1677
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 5: Yahoo account.

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01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 4: Number.

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01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 1: Well, that makes sense because Gmail's superior to Yahoo. Male,

1680
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 1: so I get that. Uh, maybe they're just trying to

1681
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 1: say this is more secure. But let's get your first

1682
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 1: question first. The phone. So you've got a Moto G.

1683
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: I think you would be better served with a Pixel

1684
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 1: six A. Have you heard of this phone? The Pixel?

1685
01:26:58,280 --> 01:26:58,879
Speaker 4: The pixel?

1686
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 5: Okay, I had a Pixel a while back and it

1687
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 5: did take.

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01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 4: Really good Yeah.

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01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 1: Sure, it takes fantastic pictures. This is the phone that

1690
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 1: I trust with my own mom, So if it's good

1691
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 1: enough for her, I think that I can recommend this

1692
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 1: to pretty much anyone. The Pixel six A is uh

1693
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 1: is three hundred dollars. Here's the thing, though, they are

1694
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 1: actually coming out with a new version of this, the

1695
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 1: Pixel seven A, which we believe is going to be

1696
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 1: announced in May. So if you can wait a couple months,

1697
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 1: you can get the latest, greatest version. But if you

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01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: don't want to wait, I still think the six A

1699
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 1: is a fantastic phone. So the only downside i'd say

1700
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 1: is probably the fingerprint sensor could be a little bit better,

1701
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 1: and so maybe they fixed that with the new one.

1702
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 1: But I think you'd be fine with this six A.

1703
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 1: That's the only complaint my mom has is the uh

1704
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 1: is the fingerprint sensor, okay?

1705
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 5: Because I also the audio when I'm listening to things

1706
01:27:56,920 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 5: the on news terrible on this motto, I see it

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01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 5: I'm going death.

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01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 1: And my doctor said, well, that's good that doc says

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01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 1: you're not. Because you know, sometimes we wonder like is

1710
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: it me or is it this phone?

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01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 4: Uh?

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01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes with the phones, with the way they're the little

1713
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:19,799
Speaker 1: ear pieces, it could be it's not lining up properly

1714
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 1: with our ear sometimes and it does sound like it's

1715
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, if you're not right on your ear in

1716
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,839
Speaker 1: the perfect place, that can happen. But I would say overall,

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01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 1: the Moto G is probably not the best phone out there.

1718
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 1: So even at three hundred dollars for this Pixel six A,

1719
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have a much much better experience, Gloria,

1720
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 1: because not only are gonna get the better pictures, you're

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01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 1: gonna get better software. You're gonna get I think the

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01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 1: audio on this phone will be fine, and I think

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01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 1: that you're just gonna like the experience so much better.

1724
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 1: And it's.

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01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 5: Like you've talked about, I can wait.

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01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you can wait for the seven A.

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01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:56,560
Speaker 1: The problem is the seven A is going to be

1728
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 1: more expensive because it's brand new. So this, you know,

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01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 1: six A, I think is a pretty good deal. At

1730
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 1: two ninety nine, I think that's pretty much the best

1731
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 1: price I've seen on that phone.

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01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 4: That's a good price.

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01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 1: You're right, Yeah, how long have you had this Moto

1734
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 1: G A little.

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01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 5: Over a year? Too long? I kept taking it back

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01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 5: and they kept saying that it's okay, everything is fine.

1737
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 1: No, this thing's a limit, and what what's your carrier?

1738
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,640
Speaker 5: And it didn't matter the carrier because it's changed a

1739
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 5: couple of times. I went in the Horizon uh to

1740
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 5: and I when I changed phones, the Verizon refused to

1741
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 5: let me keep my phone numbers, so I wound up

1742
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 5: going to what was it tea Mobile and Team Mobile

1743
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,680
Speaker 5: was able to get my phone number keep it and

1744
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 5: so I stayed with them for a while.

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01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 1: And all right, Gloria, I got to run. They're they're

1746
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 1: playing playing me off right now. So check out the

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01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 1: Pixel six A. It'll work with whatever carrier you have

1748
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 1: because it is unlocked. Coming up, we are going to

1749
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 1: talk to Adobe about shopping insights how you are shopping

1750
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:14,680
Speaker 1: online and in store with Adobe analytics. Coming up right

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01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 1: here on rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech.

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01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:22,600
Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here. My guest is Vivic Pandea. He is

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01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 1: the insights analyst at Adobe. Vivic, thanks for joining.

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01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 16: Me, great, thanks for having me Rich.

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01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 1: So, I love the findings that Adobe always comes up

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01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 1: with with their insights. A lot of it is dealing with,

1757
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:39,639
Speaker 1: you know, Black Friday and the shopping seasons, but throughout

1758
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 1: the year you come out with stuff, and recently you

1759
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 1: have now looked into sort of buy now, pay later usage.

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01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 1: Tell me what's going on with that because this is

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01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 1: something you see on almost every website now.

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01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 16: Cour So, given the inflation effects that are sort of

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01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 16: permeating through the markets and the landscape, the consumers are

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01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 16: dealing with. We're seeing them continue to drive growth in

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01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 16: Buy Now, Pay Later, so its order share is up

1766
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 16: fourteen percent year over year, and we're seeing how that

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01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 16: looks across some of the major categories that run across

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01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:18,719
Speaker 16: e commerce, so grocery, apparel, electronics, home furniture. I would

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01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 16: say grocery has been a category that's seen a lot

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01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 16: of inflation, and as a result, we're seeing buy now,

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01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 16: Pay later utilization up forty percent for order share for

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01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 16: those types of buy now, pay later orders, So that's

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01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 16: pretty significant, and it's speaking to consumers trying to stretch

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01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 16: their budget, drive the sort of purchases and behaviors that

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01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 16: got entrenched during those pandemic years, those early pandemic years,

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01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 16: and now they're trying to see how online can help

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01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 16: them save money, help them make payments easier.

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01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 1: Interesting and it looks like two of the biggest growth

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01:31:55,560 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 1: areas are home furnishings and also grocery, which is interesting

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01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 1: because traditionally you would not think about buying home furnishings online,

1781
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, that's something you'd go into a store for.

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01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 1: And then of course groceries throughout the pandemic that really

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01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,680
Speaker 1: increased so we saw over ten percent increase year over

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01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:16,640
Speaker 1: year in both those categories, which is ironic given that

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01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 1: I shop online for groceries and I was looking at

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01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 1: couches the other day as well. Are you saying that

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01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 1: people are using this buy now, pay later to shop

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01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 1: in those categories or just in general.

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01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 16: Both we're seeing, you know, the shift given inflation from

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01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 16: non essentials to essential categories and necessities that consumers need,

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01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:41,560
Speaker 16: and home furniture kind of sits on the cusp of that.

1792
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 16: There are some items that are nice to have for

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01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 16: the home, others that feel more like necessities, and in

1794
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 16: order to make your home comfortable, you really need those goods.

1795
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 16: And home furniture, like grocery, saw the seal broken through

1796
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 16: the pandemic where consumers found, oh wow, that's actually not

1797
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:02,639
Speaker 16: too bad buying these goods online, buying a seven hundred

1798
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 16: dollars couch, you know, maybe a couple of thousand dollars

1799
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 16: across different types of items, and the ease of getting

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01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 16: those goods directly to your home has improved. We're seeing

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01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 16: consumers understand that the sort of mail delivery systems that

1802
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 16: got very stressed during those months of the pandemic, those

1803
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:26,719
Speaker 16: intense months of the pandemic has eased the supply chains

1804
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:30,679
Speaker 16: of ease, so that's helping consumers think more in terms

1805
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:34,599
Speaker 16: of ease and efficiency to get these goods across these

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01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 16: major categories.

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01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 1: Now, another insight is that mobile shopping is expected to

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01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 1: overtake desktop shopping in twenty twenty three. That is a

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01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 1: huge shift.

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01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 16: Absolutely, It's it's not news that people are using smartphones

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01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 16: to buy goods, but what we have found to be

1812
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:58,800
Speaker 16: a really important threshold is when the smartphone would become

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01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 16: the dominant shopping and they would see the bulk of

1814
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 16: their dollars being spent through that phone. And what we're

1815
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 16: finding is retailers are understanding that they have to really

1816
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 16: prioritize the mobile experiences that they're serving consumers, making sure

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01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:20,719
Speaker 16: that the websites and the apps that they're selling products

1818
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 16: on are providing the best output for consumers. Given that's

1819
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 16: how they're growing markets into these different audiences and where

1820
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:33,599
Speaker 16: there's momentum in terms of consumers finding them.

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01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 1: It's been such a shift, even for me personally, because

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01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 1: it used to be if you really wanted to do

1823
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 1: serious shopping, you would go to your desktop, and now

1824
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 1: I feel like with some of these websites, it's easier

1825
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 1: to shop on the phone and even through the apps.

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01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 1: For instance, buying a plane ticket. I've noticed that sometimes

1827
01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 1: it's easier to buy from your phone because you can

1828
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 1: use your Apple Pay from your phone on the mobile

1829
01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:59,759
Speaker 1: app versus on the desktop where you're typing everything.

1830
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 16: In the use case you're describing there is exactly what

1831
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 16: retailers and travel facilitators have been hoping for, which is

1832
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 16: given that we have more and more mobile first thinking

1833
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 16: amongst consumers that they're spending a lot of time on

1834
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 16: social media across these apps, that the idea that they

1835
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 16: can bring the large swaths of audiences from those sources

1836
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 16: to their e commerce properties. It has been a real

1837
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 16: focus and making it easier can really drive growth for them.

1838
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 16: Given where consumers are right now, where they expect a

1839
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 16: lot of ease and efficiency in buying these goods and

1840
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 16: having it available for them.

1841
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 1: It's all about having that stored payment method that really

1842
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:49,840
Speaker 1: makes a huge difference on a lot of mobile shopping.

1843
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:51,680
Speaker 1: If you have to start typing stuff in, you're just

1844
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 1: like I never mind. Okay. One of the places that

1845
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 1: is actually a challenge though, is mobile for smaller retailers,

1846
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 1: and I can understand this for something like a local

1847
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:05,839
Speaker 1: business that may not have a strong presence on mobile,

1848
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 1: and you're saying that that is actually hurting them.

1849
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:13,559
Speaker 16: It's really paramount that their mobile experience and mobile site

1850
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 16: it's properties be ready for this traffic and be ready

1851
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 16: to convert effectively that consumers don't get frustrated on these

1852
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:24,680
Speaker 16: sites and then say Okay, well I'm going to go

1853
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 16: shop somewhere else where. This is much easier. So really,

1854
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 16: we saw a lot of larger retailers invest in this

1855
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 16: over the years. We're hoping to see smaller retailers try

1856
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 16: to pick up the momentum in terms of being able

1857
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:43,560
Speaker 16: to compete on these types of devices, because it's more important.

1858
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 1: Now than ever now. During the pandemic, it was all

1859
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:49,599
Speaker 1: about picking up at the store and really getting things

1860
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 1: shipped to your home. But if you couldn't do that,

1861
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:53,840
Speaker 1: you'd go and you'd do that curb side pickup. I've

1862
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 1: seen Target has invested very heavily and sort of the

1863
01:36:57,080 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 1: curb side pickup situation. But I'm looking at your stature.

1864
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 1: It says in twenty twenty one, twenty three percent of

1865
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:07,600
Speaker 1: online orders use the curb side, then nineteen percent in

1866
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, and now in the first two months

1867
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:13,840
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three it's down to seventeen percent. So

1868
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:16,799
Speaker 1: what's happening with curb side pickup?

1869
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 16: So it's really a great question that we get to

1870
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:23,560
Speaker 16: answer through what we're seeing in the categories. When we

1871
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 16: think about something like grocery, that's still a category that's

1872
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 16: seeing click, click and collect by online pickup and store

1873
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 16: momentum because consumers need these goods, they want to get

1874
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 16: them efficiently avoid shipping costs, so we're still seeing growth there. However,

1875
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 16: things like electronics, apparel, these categories are seeing growth come

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01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 16: down for them overall, and consumers are more aware that

1877
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 16: the delivery systems are, you know, moving at a decent

1878
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 16: pace now, so the urgency around getting some of these

1879
01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 16: goods has sort of slowed down and they're opting in

1880
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 16: for a sort of efficient habit straight to my door

1881
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:08,280
Speaker 16: mode of fulfillment for some of these goods as well.

1882
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:11,879
Speaker 1: Finally, just explain to me how does Adobe get this information.

1883
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 1: I'm always curious how Adobe Analytics gets these insights.

1884
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 16: Great question, So when we think about our data set

1885
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 16: that we analyze through Adobe Analytics, it's what we call

1886
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 16: our aggregated opt in data set. It's anonymized, and retailers

1887
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 16: opt in to allow us to analyze this data set

1888
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 16: at this sort of ten thousand foot level because we're

1889
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 16: able to provide them a lot of value in terms

1890
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 16: of what we're seeing in terms of broader trends, and

1891
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:43,839
Speaker 16: we provide them sort of reporting on how they're performing

1892
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 16: relative to their industry.

1893
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 1: Vivic, thanks so much for joining me today.

1894
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:48,880
Speaker 16: Thanks very much for having me.

1895
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 1: Rich all right, Vivic PANDEA insights analyst at Adobe. You

1896
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 1: can learn more at Adobe dot com. My name is

1897
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:58,640
Speaker 1: Rich Dumiro. Will have more rich on Tech right after this.

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01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:07,960
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Rich on Tech. Rich on Tech dot

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Speaker 1: tv is where you can find me online. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Arthur in Orange County. Arthur, you're on with Rich.

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01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 6: Hey, how you doing, man, I'm doing listen to you

1902
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 6: on the mornings and Saturday when I'm ubering shown.

1903
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 1: Does it make your Does it make your ubering go

1904
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:26,639
Speaker 1: any faster?

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01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 6: Actually?

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01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:28,719
Speaker 4: It done?

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01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 6: Man makes an iggle back. It's a little bit quicker.

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01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:31,599
Speaker 4: All right.

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01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 6: I got a problem, bro Oh yeah, my laptop is

1910
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:46,120
Speaker 6: needing a bit locker needs a key of code. I

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01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:48,960
Speaker 6: I don't know what to do other than just shut

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01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:49,759
Speaker 6: the thing down.

1913
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 9: Maybe I should take it in.

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01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 1: I mean, what what what kind of laptop? So it

1915
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 1: needs a okay, so BitLocker this is It sounds like

1916
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:01,719
Speaker 1: this is some sort of security program for your computer,

1917
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:06,599
Speaker 1: encryption program? Did you enable this at some point?

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01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:09,680
Speaker 8: I don't know.

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01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 1: I don't remember, right, that's the thing. This is like

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01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 1: something that that you probably don't remember doing, right, That's

1921
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 1: what it sounds like. Right. What kind of computer is this?

1922
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 4: HP?

1923
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,639
Speaker 1: Okay? And so you turn it on and it says.

1924
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 6: What It just tells me where to go the start menu,

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01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 6: and you know, it just gives me directions on what

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01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:38,360
Speaker 6: to do. But when I tried to control all the

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01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 6: lead or something like that, it won't take me out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So it's basically locked. The computer is locked up

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Speaker 1: unless you put this code in there, yes, okay, And

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the code is. I don't know, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I think what what's happening here is that when

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Speaker 1: this computer was set up? How long have you had

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Speaker 1: this computer?

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Speaker 6: Six months?

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Speaker 4: Oh? That's it? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Oh? No, hmm okay. Interesting. I mean, I'm I'm familiar

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Speaker 1: with the idea of it. So I think that typically

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Speaker 1: these are you know, this is a security program that's

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Speaker 1: on computers, and it's an encryption mechanism. So typically and

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Speaker 1: if it's asking for a key, that key is the

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Speaker 1: is the key that unlocks the encryption. So you can't

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Speaker 1: do anything without it. So if you don't have that key,

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Speaker 1: you kind of have a problem. But I think what

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Speaker 1: you can do now, do you have a lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff you need to save on here?

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Speaker 6: I have some writings and stuff and I was sending

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Speaker 6: out your reader's digests and I was online said that's

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Speaker 6: some of this stuff just isn't going to be saved.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Rich, I didn't back it up. Okay, Well here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. Number one. Obviously, I always recommend backing up everything,

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Speaker 1: putting you know, if it went in doubt. Try to

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Speaker 1: use the cloud for different things. I'm looking online here

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Speaker 1: and it looks do you have a Microsoft account?

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Speaker 4: You have to do?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So it looks like you may be able to

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Speaker 1: get this recovery key by signing into your Microsoft account.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, So if you have a different device, maybe

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Speaker 1: even your your phone, if you can sign into your

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Speaker 1: Microsoft account and go on there and look for your

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Speaker 1: recovery key. It might be located inside your account settings.

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Speaker 1: So I can't go into my account right now because

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Speaker 1: I can't really you know, navigate to all those places.

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Speaker 1: But I think that that is the first place to look.

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Speaker 1: Now if you can't do that, like if you if

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Speaker 1: you don't find it there, you know, you may have

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Speaker 1: to just refresh this whole computer, which means start from scratch,

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Speaker 1: and you may need if you don't know how to

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Speaker 1: do that yourself, you may have to enlist the help

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Speaker 1: of someone to format this thing and to start over,

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Speaker 1: which I know is not the answer you want. But

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Speaker 1: I think you know what I think, Chris Arthur. I

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Speaker 1: think you're gonna find this in your Microsoft account. I've

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Speaker 1: hoped that it's there because the fact that you have

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Speaker 1: a Microsoft account, the fact that you this computer is

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Speaker 1: six months old, I feel like you're gonna find it

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Speaker 1: in there. And I'm trying to look in mind to

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Speaker 1: see if I have I don't have this enabled on

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Speaker 1: any of my computers that I know of, so I

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Speaker 1: don't think i'd have a bit key in mind, But

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Speaker 1: I think that that's that's where you should look. So

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Speaker 1: let's see security trying to see if there's any sort

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Speaker 1: of digital security options in here, but that's where I go.

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Speaker 1: So just go to like account dot Microsoft dot com,

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Speaker 1: sign in, and then look under your account settings and

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Speaker 1: just see, like under security if it's in there, and

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Speaker 1: let's let's hope that it is, and that way you

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Speaker 1: can put that key in there. It's a forty eight

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Speaker 1: digit code. It looks like so not something you'd remember

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Speaker 1: off the top of your head.

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Speaker 6: You give up to a good start man, Thank you,

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Speaker 6: and again I enjoyed the program.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, thanks and thanks for driving us around.

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Speaker 1: You want to tell us a fun Uber story or no,

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Speaker 1: do you have one? That's uh lucky, I don't have one.

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Speaker 6: I like that poor gentleman yesterday.

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Speaker 1: That's good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a guy who just doesn't have stories.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, that's good, that's good. I was the

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Speaker 1: guy who, by the way, said that the option have

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Speaker 1: an option for talking or not talking, because sometimes I

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Speaker 1: get into the uber and I want to talk and

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Speaker 1: I'm chit chatty right, And other times I'm just tired,

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Speaker 1: I'm dead from the day and I'm just like, please

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Speaker 1: don't talk. So now the Uber app has that option.

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Speaker 1: So do you ever see that? Do people ever say,

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Speaker 1: don't talk to me.

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Speaker 8: No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. Well maybe it just asks me and it never

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Speaker 1: tells you.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm sure you know, when you're you get in

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Speaker 6: the car, people recognize you.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, you'd be surprised. There's always that

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Speaker 1: thing where they look in the roofy mirror and they're like,

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Speaker 1: are you that guy? It's it happens, believe me. And

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Speaker 1: I'm just like always kind of waiting for it. But

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's always fine. I mean, look, it's

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm on TV. It's it's something that comes

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Speaker 1: to the territory. All right, Arthur, thanks for keeping folks

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Speaker 1: safe out there on the roads of southern California. I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate it. And good luck with this computer. I

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Speaker 1: hope you figure this out because I'd rather have you

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Speaker 1: recover this than not. Okay, we're going to get to

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Speaker 1: the feedback section in just a second before we close

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Speaker 1: out the show. But first I want to tell you

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Speaker 1: about this because we've talked about AI so much, Producer Aaron,

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Speaker 1: I think you'd actually like this. This is a new

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Speaker 1: tool that lets you that helps you write your wedding

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Speaker 1: vows with AI. So this is a website with joy

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Speaker 1: dot com slash writer's block, and you go to this

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Speaker 1: website and it says help me with my wedding toast speech,

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Speaker 1: my love story for my wedding website, registry, gift suggestions,

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Speaker 1: wedding vows, a thank you note, or a polite decline

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Speaker 1: to an invitation, and you type in some of the

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Speaker 1: things that says you can given by whoever you are sibling,

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Speaker 1: best man, mother, father, whatever, highlighting a story and you

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Speaker 1: can type in a couple of stories that you have

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Speaker 1: with this person. And then you can say in the

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Speaker 1: style of a friend, haiku, a romantic Shakespeare, a therapist,

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Speaker 1: a pirate, a pessimistic x, a TikToker, or an astrologist,

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Speaker 1: and you click inspire me, and it will literally write

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Speaker 1: your entire wedding speech. Now you're gonna have to go

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Speaker 1: through this and you know, fact check because it does

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Speaker 1: take some liberties with the story. But it's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I tried this yesterday. It's your first draft. So if

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Speaker 1: you need to write a toast for someone, check it

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01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 1: out with joy dot com slash writer's block. Just one

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Speaker 1: of the examples of how AI is changing our world.

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Speaker 1: I remember my brother's speech for me, he might have

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Speaker 1: had a couple of You know, I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people get that liquid courage when they do these toasts,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes it turns out good, sometimes not so much.

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Speaker 1: Aaron says he's done three, So yeah, it's an art form.

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Speaker 1: All right. Let's get to the feedback segment. Before we

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Speaker 1: got to go here, let's see Richard says, HP Instant

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01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:16,720
Speaker 1: Ink scam. Hey, good morning. I went to cancel HP

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Speaker 1: Instant Inc. And I saw a message that HP would

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Speaker 1: render my already purchased and installed ink cartridge inoperable if

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Speaker 1: I canceled the subscription, then I need to go buy

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Speaker 1: one at a store to use my printer. The one

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01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:29,880
Speaker 1: in the printer is still full. Is this real? It

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01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:32,720
Speaker 1: makes me so angry. Yes, it is real. I had

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Speaker 1: the same exact thing happen. I went to go cancel

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Speaker 1: my HP Instant Inc. Because I was printing out so

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Speaker 1: much stuff, and I realized, oh, I got to pay

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Speaker 1: two hundred dollars to buy new cartridges. I guess I'll

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Speaker 1: just stick with the HP Instant Inc. So I up

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Speaker 1: my subscription and now I'm paying thirteen dollars a month

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Speaker 1: to print. Now I do a lot of printing for

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Speaker 1: this show, so it makes sense for me. But I

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Speaker 1: was surprised just as much as you were, Richard. But yes,

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Speaker 1: it's legit. The ink cartridges in your printer are rendered

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Speaker 1: obsolete when that happens. Can you believe that? So weird?

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Speaker 1: So I literally just had to look at the pricing

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Speaker 1: and I was like, eh, once I added up all

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Speaker 1: the different colors and all the blacking cartridge, Nah, it

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Speaker 1: added up to way too much. All right, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it. For this episode of the show coming up

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Speaker 1: next week, I'm taking a test drive in the Hyundai

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Speaker 1: Ionic six EV, so i'll tell you about that. It's

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Speaker 1: been such a ride, in the words of Arthur, what

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Speaker 1: a fun, fun ride. Today. You can find me on

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Speaker 1: social media at rich on tech. The website is richon

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Speaker 1: tech dot TV. Don't forget to check out my TV segments.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening. There are so many ways

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01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 1: you can spend your time. I do appreciate you spending

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Speaker 1: it right here with me. Thanks to everyone who makes

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Speaker 1: this show possible. I'll talk to you real soon.