1 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: All right, welcome in Lake Is Live. It is Sunday night. 2 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: It is May tenth, the year of our lord, twenty 3 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: twenty jam packed show. We have continued to have jam 4 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: packed shows even in the midst of quarantine season. College 5 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: football season eventually going to get here, or so I'm told. 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: If you were watching on the YouTube channel, go ahead 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: and subscribe to the channel and click the bell for notifications. 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: A lot of you, just a flood of you, a 9 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: stream of you headed over to the late podcast page 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: or channel or whatever you want to call that. A 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: lot of five star reviews. I think we went over 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: one hundred yesterday. I think we should be in the thousands, 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: and I think you guys can do that. So give 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: us those five star reviews on the podcast. And those 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: nice written reviews are a very friendly touch at the 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: end too. Tonight, I'm not going to lead the show 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,959 Speaker 1: with it, but we are going to talk about yet 18 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: another couple of major commits for Tennessee. These are not 19 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: just these garden variety class fillers. I know a lot 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: of you are suggesting otherwise, but no, they are not. 21 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: These are impact players. I'm going to lead the show 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: with Texas in just a second I think that maybe 23 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people through out the word blueprint, blueprint. 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: Everyone's following this blueprint right now. The blueprint everyone wants 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: to follow is the LSU blueprint, the LSU model. Well, 26 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: in a way, I think Texas could be on the 27 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: verge of taking the first steps to following the LSU 28 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: blueprint model. What have you. We'll talk about that in 29 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: just a second. I've also got a number of your 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 1: questions to get to and we're going to talk about 31 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: something else in the SEC East other than Tennessee. Yet 32 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: it loosely revolves around what Tennessee's doing right now, you know, 33 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: if you'll notice on Twitter, etc. Whenever Tennessee lands a 34 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: new commitment, everyone talks about well, okay, how does it 35 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: compare to Georgia? How does Tennessee now compare to Georgia. Well, 36 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: no commit, no one recruit. I don't care if it's 37 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,919 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. Haven't heard any rumors there. But Caleb Williams 38 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: is the top quarterback in the country, one of depending 39 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: on any service you look at, only one in our world. 40 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: Of course, even if he were to commit to Tennessee, 41 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: that in and of itself doesn't close the gap between 42 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: Tennessee and Georgia. No one commits going to do that. Honestly, 43 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: no one class ever does that. But there is a 44 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: gap that we're going to talk about in the sec 45 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: East tonight. We're it's not going to go maybe the 46 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: way that you think we're going to go, but let's 47 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: start in the lone star state. Is Texas back is 48 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: a question I've never asked. Is Texas back is a 49 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: question that we're not going to ask on this show. 50 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: It is largely intellectually bankrupt. So here's what we do 51 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: ask on this show. Where is Texas in the grand 52 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: scheme of things? If you've got a one to one 53 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: thirty best programs to worst programs, where is Texas? And 54 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: if you believe like I do, that they do belong 55 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: at or near the top of the sport. If all 56 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: things are humming, if all cylinders are being clicked on, 57 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: then what does it take for them to get there? Well, 58 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: I want you to go back with me. It's not 59 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: too long ago. And I want to throw a name 60 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: at you, Scott Woodward. What do you think about Scott Woodward? Well, 61 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: ninety nine percent you probably don't know the name. Our 62 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: folks done in Baton Rouge certainly know that name, and 63 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: maybe some hardcore SEC fans do. The folks in College 64 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: Station do too. Scott Woodward is now the athletic director 65 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: at Louisiana State University. He is a homegrown product. He 66 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: is from Baton Rouge. They love him there. He is 67 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: essentially the antithesis of the athletic director that they had 68 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: in there before, who went by the name of Joe 69 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: Olivam so LSU. For a while, they looked good on 70 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: the surface, and that's what they were. They were good. 71 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: The problem was greatness was in the neighborhood just up 72 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: the road in Tuscaloosa, and in any given year elsewhere 73 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: in the SEC, so LSU could not get over that 74 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: Crimson hump, and therefore they couldn't get to Atlanta, and 75 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: therefore they couldn't fulfill their ultimate goal of winning national championships. 76 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: And you always thought, oh, it's the head coach's fault, 77 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: Oh we don't have a good enough roster, and everyone 78 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: wanted to look at all of these different elements of 79 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: the program that they thought was the separation. But what 80 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: you didn't know is behind the scenes, their athletic department, 81 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: if it wasn't a mess, but it was certainly disconjointed, 82 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of friction where there shouldn't 83 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: be friction. And then Joe leaves out and they go 84 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: get Scott Woodward. And if you ask folks at LSU, 85 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: what was the key to your success ultimately up to 86 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: an including winning a national championship last year, they don't 87 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: start with ed Orgeron, they don't start with some transfer, 88 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: they don't start pointing you to anyone recruiting class, they 89 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: don't even start talking about their facilities. They start talking 90 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: about Scott Woodward. Because once they got that block in place, 91 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: then everything else just started to flow a lot more 92 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: easily and a lot more freely. Well, here was the problem. 93 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: The problem at Texas now is they've kind of been 94 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: in the same boat. And the problem, just like with LSU, 95 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,119 Speaker 1: is Texas hasn't been bad, they've been terrible. They've been good, 96 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: but good enough is only enough until greatness enters the picture. 97 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: And Oklahoma has been a great program, and obviously nationally 98 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: you've had enough other great programs to where if you're 99 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: merely good, it doesn't matter what your facilities look like, 100 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: it didn't matter how good your resources are if you're 101 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: on field product and if your program is operating merely 102 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: at the level of good then it's not going to 103 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: be good enough, nor should it be good enough. And 104 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: so a couple of weeks ago we had the interview 105 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: with Matthew McConaughey. He talked about Crystal Conte, that's the 106 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: current athletic director at Texas, and he spoke glowingly of 107 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: Crystal Conte. Wasn't the first time I'd heard someone say that, 108 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: Probably the most reputable, recognizable name that I had heard 109 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: talk up Crystal Conte. So, like you normally do when 110 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: someone talks someone up like that, you just kind of 111 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: jotted down in the back of your mind. I know 112 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: the name Crystal Conte. I can't tell you that I 113 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: had done a whole lot of research on him until then, 114 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: so I store it away. Then Taylor Reestu's from our 115 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: Horns twenty four to seven site gets in touch with me. 116 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: He says, Crystal Conte wants to do a live virtual 117 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: chat with the fans twenty four to seven sports count YouTube, 118 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: open it up, let's do it. So we did it, 119 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: and I was working out the other day as that 120 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: was going on live and I was listening to Crystal Conte, 121 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: and it struck me so much I went back and 122 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: listened to it a second time. A lot of athletic 123 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: are loosely aware of what goes on with any given 124 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: sport in their athletic department and then give you the 125 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: talking points, but they're not intimately familiar. Truth be told, fans, 126 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: a lot of hardcore fans know more about the programs 127 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: on a day to day basis than the athletic directors 128 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: do because they got so much on their plate. Well, 129 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: that was not Crystal Conte. Crystal Conte was talking in 130 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: very very vivid detail about the separation between where Texas is, 131 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: where they have been, where they need to be. That 132 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: dude's throwing out offensive linemen in the draft statistics like 133 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: he runs a trivia challenge every Saturday night in his backyard. 134 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: And so that struck me too, because the guy said 135 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: all the right things. Now I don't know, I've never 136 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: met Crystal Conte, so I don't still don't know anything 137 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: about him. I'm just I'm taking all this in right, 138 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: and so he was very in depth, he was very honest. 139 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: He talked about the roster. I'll tell you what really 140 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: struck me is he talked about what Tom Herman inherited, 141 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: what the process is to go from where they were 142 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: where they want to be, and whereas not everyone, a 143 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: lot of other people when that Sugar Bowl went over 144 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: Georgia happened up to an including the starting quarterback of 145 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: that team, wanted to shout we're back. Texas is back. 146 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: Crys del Conte had a different take, and had I 147 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: thought better of it, I would have clipped it for 148 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: you tonight. But essentially what he said was he said, 149 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: you know, I'm paraphrasing, we had a nice solid first year, 150 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: second year, all of a sudden, we have this occurrence 151 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: that happens and just kind of a confluence of events 152 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: lead us to the Sugar Bowl and we get a 153 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: big win over Georgia. Everyone thinks we're back. In reality, 154 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: that was a misrepresentation of where we were in our 155 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: climb back to hopefully the top of the sport where 156 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: we got there, and then the next year we don't 157 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: match that in we quote unquote only have a nice 158 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: Bowl win. I think it was the Alamo Bowl over Utah. 159 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: But everyone thinks we take a step back, and he's 160 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: he's said no, it's not a step back, it's just 161 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: what we took this leap forward record wise, that wasn't 162 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: truly indicative of where we were as a program. So anyway, 163 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: I hear all that, and then I'm doing some more 164 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: research on Crystal content and that's when I went to 165 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: our Horns twenty four to seven side today. They did 166 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: something really well. They did it really really well. It's 167 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: well put together, it's well thought out. If you ever 168 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: want to know what the health of your program is 169 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: at any given time, find out what people think about 170 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: the athletic director. And I'm not talking about people in 171 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: the media. I'm talking about people who are on the 172 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: ground day to day. They have a vested interest in 173 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: the athletic department and the success of that program, either 174 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: as a fan, as a booster, as a supporter, or 175 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: in the cases of the people I'm about to read, 176 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: you select quotes from people who cover on the ground 177 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: the program from a very very close proximity, day to 178 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: day basis. Bobby Burton is the publisher of Horns twenty 179 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: four to seven, and these are quotes. Basically, they asked themselves, 180 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: let's rank the job that Crystal Conte has done so far, 181 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: at Texas Bobby Burton, he has not rankled the wrong alumni. 182 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: He's raised funds at a record rate while starting construction 183 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: projects that have been needed for years. Is Chip Brown. 184 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: All the money Crystal Conte has raised for the most 185 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: sweeping upgrade of athletic facilities in school history, as well 186 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: as a complete makeover of UT football game days. I'm 187 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: going to get back to that in a second cause 188 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: that has been a big point of contention for people 189 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: at Texas. He also responds to endless questions on Twitter. 190 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: He holds town hall meetings every February to explain the 191 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: athletic apartment budget. He answers questions from those in the audience. 192 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: Jeff Howell, senior writer here really hits on something well. 193 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: He's been exactly what the athletic department needed in terms 194 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: of pay close attention. This is what they dealt with 195 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: the LSU, mending fences with a group of fans that 196 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: by large, for lack of a better term, felt disenfranchised 197 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: and disconnected from the university in the decade he didn't 198 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: say ten months, he said decade leading up to Delcante's arrival. 199 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: One could argue the university's ability to connect with the 200 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: common fan has never been better. Here's the money quote. 201 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: Delcante has either given or is giving Tom Herman everything 202 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: he could possibly need in order to compete at a 203 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: championship level. Taylor Estes Crystal Conte has done more in 204 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: two and a half years than the previous three ads 205 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: had accomplished in more than a decade. This sounds so 206 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: much cannot In some cases, it almost sounds like they 207 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: plagiarized quotes from people that I talked to at LSU 208 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: during the Joe Leivia days and then when he was 209 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: out and Scott Woodward came in. This is what happened 210 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: behind the scenes at LSU. LSU just went on to 211 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: win a national championship. This is certainly not the time 212 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: nor the place to predict Texas in the next twelve 213 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: months twenty four months to win a national championship. What 214 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm telling you is there was a lot of rearranging 215 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: of debt chairs. It felt like out there for a 216 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: long time. This is what you have to do. Sometimes 217 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: you have to go through the painful process of just 218 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: gutting things. Now you never have to start truly from 219 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: the ground and rebuild at Texas. But now what's happening. 220 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: What's happening is a lot of folks who are very 221 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: instrumental in the success of that program, who felt disenfranchised 222 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: by the former administration, are now back at the table. 223 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: Just like what's happened to LSU. Let me tell you 224 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: what else happened to LSU. What happened to LSU is 225 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: the folks who didn't need to be involved in the process, 226 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: or the folks who were halfway pulling for the purple 227 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: and gold and then the other arm was pulling for 228 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: their own self interest. They were either set straight or 229 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: they were shown the door. You don't hear about this 230 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: because these are not names that would garner headlines. But 231 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: they got the folks out of the way that were 232 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: in the way in Baton Rouge, and they got folks 233 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: in place that are all on the freight train moving 234 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: the same direction. And that's what Texas Athletics has to be, 235 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: and that's what Texas football needs to be now right 236 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: at this moment. You don't look at Texas in fear. 237 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: They know that. But here's what we do know now 238 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: now that we're hearing from people on the ground, Now 239 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: that we're hearing from people who are well connected at Texas. Okay, 240 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: to a man and to a woman out there, they 241 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: tell you, okay, there were excuses. There was this excuse 242 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. That excuse behind the scenes will now 243 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: game day atmosphere is fixed, got record breaking donations, We've 244 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: got facilities going up and overhaul the likes of which 245 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: we've never seen here in Texas, mind you, where they 246 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: pride themselves on such things. What we know now, and 247 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: if you're watching on YouTube, you see the picture at 248 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: the bottom of the screen, that's Tom Herman. What we 249 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: know now is all excuses are off the table, and 250 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: we get to find out is that the right guy, 251 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: Because if he's not the right guy, they'll find the 252 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: right guy, and Texas becomes a much much, much more 253 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: attractive program for pretty much anyone they want to go 254 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: get at this point. But that's what I'm most excited 255 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: to find out about. In the coming year or two, 256 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: you find out Tom Herman's made staff changes. Tom Herman 257 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: has gotten what he thinks is the best nucleus of 258 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: a staff in there to win. The athletic directors walked 259 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: in and just made sure, okay, from this point forward, 260 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: if we got a seven and five season on the board. 261 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: If we got an eight and four season on the 262 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: board and we're underachieving, we know it's solely in the 263 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: coaching department problem, because it's not me anymore. Did my job? Now, 264 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: they got to do their job. That's all you can 265 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: ask for as a Texas fan. Right now, let's move 266 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: it on. I'm going to towards the end of the show. 267 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: Let me make sure that I'm gonna towards the end 268 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: of the show, I'm gonna touch on the goings on 269 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: with Tennessee today. Because they landed two more major commits. 270 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: You might ask, as someone did in the chat early 271 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: before the show started, how many they allowed to take. 272 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: Probably about forty five. I think their on pace about 273 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 1: forty five or fifty this class. That of course is 274 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: a joke, But I think there's gonna be a lot 275 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: of fluidity, shall we say. I think that class is 276 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: going to very much be in a state of flux. 277 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: And I'll say that derogatorily. I think it's probably gonna 278 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: be a benefit for Tennessee. But they landed, and they 279 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: by day I mean in Tennessee. Tennessee landed Aaron Willis today. 280 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: That's a linebacker, four star linebacker. They landed Caden Salter today. 281 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: That's a four star quarterback. We told you that was coming. 282 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: Steve Wolfolm has been all over both of those for 283 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: a little while. More on that later, but as I 284 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: told you to lead the show, every time Tennessee has 285 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: landed a commitment, and that has been several times over 286 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks alone. Remember they've been on 287 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: this recruiting surge. Every time they've landed one, I've had 288 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: a couple of reactions on Twitter. It's either been Tennessee 289 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: fans excited out of their mind, which you should be, 290 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: or it's been rival fans saying, well he was only 291 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: rated this, or their average star ranking is only this, 292 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: or well they're still not gonna beat Georgia. They're still 293 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: not gonna finish top five. Well okay, but that's my point. 294 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: My point is you all keep going to Georgia. Y'all 295 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: keep comparing Tennessee to Georgia. I'm looking at Florida. Why 296 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: are we not paying attention to the gap between Tennessee 297 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: and Florida? Because that team they're in Gainsville is standing 298 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: as I see it, between Tennessee and Georgia. So let's 299 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: dive into this for a second, because I want to 300 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: talk a lot about Florida here, and I want to 301 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: talk about maybe how good enough is not enough in Gainsville, Florida. 302 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes I get accused of only talking about the positives 303 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: with these programs. Well, I don't think it's the worst 304 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: business strategy in the world. And the spring in summer, 305 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: there's going to be quite enough losing in the fall 306 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: where we can talk negatively about programs, teams, players who 307 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: maybe need to have some negative light shined on them. 308 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: But let's be real here for a second. And that's 309 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: all I ask are Florida viewers and fans to be. 310 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: Let's just be real here for a second, because I'm 311 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: not trashing your program. There's no reason to trash your program. 312 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: Florida football is either good, very good, or great in 313 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: pretty much every category. Here's the problem. They are great 314 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: in the coaching department, they are great in the game 315 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: day management department. No one's ever questioning that. And if 316 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: you do, then I'll argue back with you. I don't 317 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: think anyone's calling Florida recruiting great. I don't think you guys, 318 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: if you're honest with yourselves, are calling your current recruiting 319 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: staff great, Tim Brewster. You may have a couple of 320 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: guys that individually you would say are great. Collectively, is 321 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: the recruiting at Florida right now great? It's not. Here's 322 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: the problem you may run into. I want you to 323 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: think to me, I've always been a believer, ever since 324 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: I started doing this professionally, I've always been a believer 325 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: that any kind of metaphor any kind of alogy I 326 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: ever need to use to make an illustration about football 327 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: can be found in traffic. So let's put ourselves in 328 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: the back seat of an Uber and you're on the 329 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: interstate and you come up on construction and you know 330 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: the drill. You got to get in a single file 331 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: line and traffic is slowed down to a crawl and 332 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: no one likes it, but you got to go through it. Well, 333 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: you don't have a problem with that. You're not going 334 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: to get mad at your Uber driver or your taxi 335 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: driver because they've slowed to a stop. That's what everyone 336 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: has to do. You're in a single file line. That's 337 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: not what makes you mad. Okay, Florida could be sitting 338 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: right behind Georgia and that doesn't make him mad. Here's 339 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: what's going to enrage Florida fans. What's going to enrage 340 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: them is if all of a sudden, the dude who 341 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: wants to skip thirty minutes of traffic has flown up 342 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: past them and the drivers asleep at the wheel, and 343 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: Tennessee cuts right in front of you after you have 344 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: had your stuff in place, long before they ever hired 345 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: the headman that they have up there. That's what's going 346 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: to really really enrage a lot of Florida folks. You 347 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: don't have a problem, well, you got a problem with it. 348 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: You understand being behind Georgia right now. If Tennessee is 349 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: able to bypass Florida, that's something that's inexcusable. Should be 350 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: inexcusable to Florida fans. Has it happened yet? Absolutely not? 351 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: Could it happen? Let's talk about it, because I think 352 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: and this is an opinion I hold, and I'm free 353 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: to argue with you guys on it. I'm a believer 354 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: that if things continue on current trajectory, I'm a believer 355 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: Tennessee as a roster, Jeremy Proot's roster will bypass what 356 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: they had at Florida in a couple of years I 357 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: don't think that they lack for coaching acumen at Tennessee. 358 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: I think some people are hoping they do. I think 359 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: some people are either hoping this recruiting class falls apart, 360 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: or this recruiting effort falls apart, or it's fool's goal, 361 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: it's a mirage. They just landed some kids early and 362 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: everyone else is going to bypass them late in the game. 363 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: And I don't think that that's the case. I'm not 364 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: telling you Tennessee is about finish top three, but I'm 365 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: and don't even think about this class in particular, think 366 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: bigger picture. If the recruiting apparatus at Tennessee starts to 367 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: consistently click get a higher level than it does at Florida, 368 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: eventually you get a better roster in Tennessee than you 369 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: do at Florida. That doesn't happen overnight. Certainly doesn't happen overnight. 370 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: But I believe on our current trajectories here, given what 371 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: we see at Florida, given what we see at Tennessee, 372 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. Now, 373 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: what would things look like if that did happen? Because 374 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: I independent of what Tennessee's been doing. Have said for 375 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: quite a while, Florida is in this weird spot. They've 376 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: been in this weird spot for quite a while. They're 377 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: not bad. When you're bad, everyone can see something has 378 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: to change. That's the problem in a way, if you 379 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: want to call it that at Florida. Florida's been one 380 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: of the best programs in America. Florida's gone to back 381 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,719 Speaker 1: to back New Year's Six Bowls. Florida has been very good. 382 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: They got one of the best head coaches in America 383 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: last year. To give you an idea of how good 384 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: that coaching staff is, I mean, they lose their multi 385 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: year starting quarterback and just seamlessly not only do they 386 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: put a backup quarterback in, but by all accounts, they 387 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: upgrade their production and they just they just on a 388 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: dime spin what they're doing and go like air raid, 389 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: which they had not been doing previously. And so that 390 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: coaching staff, they leave little doubt about how good they are. 391 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: We're talking recruiting for a second, and the reason that 392 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: I think Florida's recruiting has got to be better, it's 393 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: not because it's bad, but it's good. It's good to 394 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: very good in a league where there's just a little 395 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: bit too much. Great Alabama's in this conference. Georgia, you 396 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: gotta play them every year, LSU, you got to play 397 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: them every year. Florida is not light years behind them 398 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: in recruiting, but they are behind them in recruiting. You 399 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: can't afford for another one of your rivals to pull 400 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: up to that table. Again. Tennessee's not there yet, They're 401 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: getting closer every day to being there. So I look 402 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: at their staff right now. And I was talking to 403 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: someone earlier today, very close to the Florida program, and 404 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: I just kind of said, you know, I look at 405 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: this program, but you know, you're really close to them. 406 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: What do you think describe Florida's recruiting staff? And it 407 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: was essentially what I think. You know, Tim Brewster is 408 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: a guy who I mean, I think most coaching staffs 409 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: would want in their circle when it comes to recruiting. 410 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: Craig Fitzgerald is a good recruiter. They have behind that, 411 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: who do you have that you feel confident can win 412 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: those in state battles? Because I keep looking at some 413 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: of these are going to be anecdotal, but I look 414 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: at the receiver that Alabama just pulled out of South 415 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: Florida this last weekend, and I was talking to one 416 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: of my Florida buddies about him, and my Florida buddiess 417 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: justification was, yeah, but I mean Alabama always led for 418 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: that kid. Well that's part of the problem I'm talking 419 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: about here, right, Yeah. So for those of you whoever 420 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: questioned if Late Kick Live really lives up to the 421 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: Moniker Live, yeah, we're live and sometimes microphones die. But 422 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: apparently most of you stuck around. So let's continue. Where 423 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: was I I know it sounds crazy right now to 424 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: suggest that, oh, Tennessee football man, you look up and 425 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're going to be contender in 426 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: the East. That's not what I'm suggesting. I'm gonna talk 427 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: about Tennessee a little bit later on. That's not what 428 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm suggesting. But what I am saying is everyone can 429 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: see something coming once it's there. There's no skill in that. 430 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: What we're trying to do here is look at Tennessee, 431 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: say they got something going up there. I think even 432 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: the most cynical among us can recognize, Hey, there's some 433 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: nice positive momentum up there. Some of you think it's 434 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: this sort of cute gimmicky sort of momentum that's gonna 435 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: die off. I don't tend to think that. But whatever 436 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: the case may be, I'm just telling you, I really 437 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: wish that Florida would be a whole lot more proactive 438 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 1: in getting serious about putting together a better recruiting staff. 439 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: That's all I'm telling you. It may be that Florida, 440 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: and I know they always like to wait, maybe until 441 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: little bit later in the year. They love to get 442 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: guys on campus during the season. It maybe they make 443 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: a move and finish top five in recruiting this year, 444 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: and all this is moot, And if it is, I'll 445 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: happy to I'll be happy to go back and say, yeah, 446 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: you know what I said back in May forget about 447 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: all that. But at this point, you know, we look 448 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: at Florida and kind of have been what they've been recruiting, 449 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: which is good but not great. Tennessee's ceiling, this recruiting 450 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: staff ceiling is not just good, guys, it's not just 451 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: very good. They've got an elite ceiling on their recruiting 452 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: potential here. Maybe not this class. This class is going 453 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: to be really good in its own right, but in 454 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: the future I think they can be great. So let's 455 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: just keep an eye on that. Our Brandon Marcelo, who 456 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: used to be with Auburn Undercover, has now gone national. 457 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: He's right here with us, and he has a social 458 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: distance feature coming out this week. Sat down with Greg Sanki. 459 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: I think he went colin what was it forty minutes. 460 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: I think he went like forty forty five minutes with 461 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: the Commissioner of the SEC. Now, as any good marketer does, 462 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: of course, we're going to leak some of it out early, 463 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: and so I particularly noticed when Brandon Marcelo wrote this 464 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: little piece in advance of the full release this week 465 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: about Greg Sanki and how many different contingency plans. Always 466 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: love the word contingency. Anytime we can work it into 467 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: a show, we find a way too. Contingency just means 468 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: how many different disaster scenarios do we have? Well, I 469 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: want to read some minor excerpts from this larger article 470 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: that Brandon Marcelo put out in this whole interview with 471 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: Greg sank I think will be up early this week. 472 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: I should know I'm the one to post it, but 473 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: I don't have the calendar in front of me. This 474 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: is Greg Sankie Commissioner of the SEC talking about contingency plans. 475 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: I'll boil it down to our discussions. If you just 476 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: ran down the whole list, we'd probably be in the 477 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: mid to upper teens. What he's talking about is different 478 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: potential scenarios just for the SEC. Ideas range from delayed seasons, 479 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: games without fans, limited crowd size, conferences going it alone 480 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: with their own schedules, and more. The one guiding light, 481 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: the Power five is aiming for an on schedule start 482 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: to the season. Still, they know that might not be possible. 483 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: I would argue at this point that is far more 484 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: unlikely than it is likely given what we've heard in 485 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: the last week from some officials out west. William King, 486 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: we continue now. William King, Associate Commissioner for Legal Affairs 487 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: and Compliance, was tasked with seeking feedback from the conferences 488 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: fourteen football head coaches in one hour sessions, and there 489 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: was one common thread from the first of those conversations 490 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: to the last. Tell the commissioner he needs to communicate 491 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: we're focused on playing football. Our young people need to 492 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: hear it. I think our fans need to hear that. Still, 493 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: the commissioner was not willing to share his personal opinion 494 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: on that situation. A couple of more quotes here, and 495 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: then we'll circle back around Greg Sank you talking now, 496 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: for us to have our football season, our universities have 497 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: to re engage in a normal operating pattern. I think 498 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: fundamentally we have to be back in operation. I assume 499 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: we'll have more distance learning or web based learning. So 500 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: essentially what we're talking about here is this is sort 501 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: of been the going theme lately. You're not going to 502 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: have football unless you have kids back on campus in 503 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: the fall. Maybe there's more distance learning, web based learning, 504 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: but you got to have at least some semblance of 505 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: normalcy for us to reasonably justify having kids on campus. 506 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: And I don't think that's radic at all. Now here's 507 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: what I ask. What I ask, and I'm asking it rhetorically. 508 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: We're not going to get an answer tonight. I'm afraid. 509 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: What I'm wondering, and I think we've been getting subtle 510 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: answers more and more, is what happens if Conference A 511 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: is ready to go and Conference B is not ready 512 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: to go, Because that's likely to me, that's far more 513 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: likely than not. At that point, I think if you 514 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: read between the lines with what some of these conference 515 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: commissioners are saying. I think a lot of folks are 516 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: ready to explore the possibility give it a couple more months, 517 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: but explore the possibility of well, all right, we'd like 518 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: you to be with us, but you know PAC twelve. 519 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: For example, if you guys aren't ready and we got 520 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: all fourteen of ours down here ready, we're leaving. If 521 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: we have to leave without you, we'll leave without you. 522 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: But we're leaving now. I'm probably going to wait a 523 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: couple more weeks on talking about this. I can tell 524 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: you from talking to someone this weekend there are teams 525 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: in conferences where there is confidence that there's going to 526 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: be a season who have already started to seek out 527 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: how should I put this alternative potential plans scheduling wise 528 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: for having people on their schedule that they think may 529 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: not be able to play a game when it's supposed 530 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: to be played. So nothing formal, nothing on the record, 531 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: but that is happening behind the scenes. So I ask this, 532 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: if you've got an SEC football season and you don't 533 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: have a PAC twelve, or you have a semblance of 534 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: a Big twelve, or however it shakes out like when 535 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: it comes to postseason. Do you have a national championship? 536 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: Do you have a bowl structure in place? I think 537 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: the answer is there, very depending on who you talk to, 538 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: which means you get to really crystallize the importance again 539 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: of your conference championship game, because guys, you may be 540 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: looking at a situation where your SEC championship game is 541 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: as big as it gets for this particular year. I 542 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: don't know. I just really wonder if you've got the 543 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: SEC ready to go in September, and you got the 544 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: PAC twelve saying earliest wee can get off the ground 545 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 1: is December. I don't know that people are just willingly 546 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: sitting around and waiting for that, And in turn, I 547 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: don't know what that does with the overall national structure, 548 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: national championship structure, bold structure, don't know what it does 549 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: with any of that. Let's get to some Q and A, 550 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: because this is where I wanted to talk about Tennessee 551 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: for a second. We had a lot of questions about 552 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: Tennessee in the in the inbox, so I figured I 553 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: just choose one that best surmised everything that you were saying, 554 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: and let's go with it. Thomas on YouTube It's cute 555 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: Tennessee has a million commits, but look at their average 556 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: star rating. They won't finish higher than Georgia. Thomas. I 557 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: don't know that I found anyone suggesting that they will 558 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: finish higher than Georgia. So I don't know where that 559 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: comes from. Again, I've told you this is what my 560 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: inbox is littered with. I had some guy call me 561 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: a Tennessee homer the other day. That's been a first. 562 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: I assume it won't be a last, but that's been 563 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: a first. But mainly it's just been littered with. Anytime 564 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: I dare speak glowingly or even positively about Tennessee recruiting, 565 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: I don't know how you don't right now people remind you, Oh, 566 00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 1: you have to look at their star rating. Look at 567 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: the average star rating compared to fill in the Blane. 568 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: Well yet, but they're not going to finish number one. 569 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: I haven't said they are. Yeah, they're not going to 570 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: finish top three. I haven't said they are. They're not 571 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: gonna finish higher than Georgia. Haven't said they are. I 572 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: want to know this. Are they going to finish higher 573 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: than number ten that's where they finished last year? And 574 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: if they finished higher than number ten. You know what, 575 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: we call that improvement because that tenth finish was higher 576 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: than what was at thirteen or fourteen they finished the 577 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: year before, which we also called improvement. I would say 578 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: to Tennessee fans, ignore all of it right now. You 579 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: got energy, and you got excitement, you got genuine pride, enthusiasm, 580 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: a lot of emotions, to be honest with you, that 581 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: you haven't felt to a varying degree all that much 582 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: in the past few years of Tennessee football. Who cares 583 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: what anyone else says, man, enjoy it right now. And 584 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: as for the you won't finish higher than Georgia sort 585 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: of mantra that a lot of people have started bad drums, 586 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: been beat to death already, Like I said, are they 587 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: going to finish higher than tenth? So, as I told 588 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: you before, we were right here in this studio on 589 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: that signing day, and it was Steve Woolfolk sitting right 590 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: where I'm sitting right now, and it was me and 591 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: Burton Simmons over there. We had all the graphics made, 592 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: had everything ready, and then Tennessee sort of messed us 593 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: up and they snuck inside the top ten. We didn't 594 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: have a graphic ready for it. We had to make 595 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: one on the fly. And that's why it sticks out 596 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: to me. Tennessee top ten. It's drilled in my mind 597 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: because we didn't expect it that day. We thought they'd 598 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: finish inside the top fifteen, but not the top ten. Well, 599 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: now they finished I think thirteenth couple cycles ago, tenth, 600 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: this past cycle. What if they finished seventh this year? 601 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: I mean, are we really going to sit here and say, 602 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: stupid Tennessee only able to finish seventh? Okay, let me 603 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: ask you this. Have you thought about this for all 604 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: of those that assumed this class is etched in stone, 605 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: because kids have verbally committed, your only potential path is 606 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: their elite kids are going to decommit. When anyone wants 607 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: to acknowledge that, hey, National signing Day is a long 608 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: way away, it seems all anyone ever wants to entertain 609 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: is the concept that Tennessee's best commits could decommit. Well, 610 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: that could happen. I don't have any intel that suggests 611 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: it will. They just got better today again, you had 612 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: the linebacker, four star linebacker, four star, dual threat quarterback 613 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: Caden Salter out of Texas commit. Who knows what this 614 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: week could hold. But let me ask you this. You 615 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: know what, we didn't have the spring that we normally have. 616 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: We normally had, we normally have spring evaluation period, you 617 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: got camps, you got all this stuff going on. Well, 618 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: it didn't happen this year. I was reading Bud Elliott 619 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: did a piece talking about what Tennessee's recruiting class ceiling 620 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: is for this year, and he was talking about what 621 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: reality is. Everything he said and there was right. I 622 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: don't disagree with anything he said. It was data. I mean, 623 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: there was nothing to disagree with. But what he was 624 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: talking about is, given the current state of this class, 625 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: they're not on a pace that could finish top five historically, 626 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: just based on what a top five class historically looks like. 627 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: And he talked about the amount of three star kids, 628 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: and he said, Okay, let's assume given that we didn't 629 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: have a lot of in the spring what we normally have, 630 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: and there weren't as many abilities to put eyeballs on 631 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: kids and bump their star rating. Maybe there is an 632 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: overwhelming amount of three stars bumped to four stars coming 633 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: this fall, and maybe Tennessee benefits from that. Still, there's 634 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: a long way to go between Tennessee's class where they 635 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: are right now, average star rating, and what a top 636 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: five class would look like, YadA, YadA, YadA. But my 637 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: point is this, even with all that taking into consideration, 638 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: let me tell you what else is going to happen 639 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: at Tennessee and everywhere else. Yeah, you may have some decommitments, 640 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: but what you're also going to have is some good 641 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: old fashioned processing. And what that is is Tennessee's about 642 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: to fill their class up. What do you think they're 643 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: going to do? Move on to the twenty twenty two class. Yes, 644 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: they are pause on that one bookmark that idea, we'll 645 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: circle back to that. But here's what else they're going 646 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: to do. They're going to keep evaluating the twenty twenty 647 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: one class, and they're going to keep evaluating their current commits, 648 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: and they're going to keep evaluating kids that aren't committed 649 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: to them. And if they got a high four star 650 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: offensive guard out of Sunshine, Florida that wants to commit, 651 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: and they're looking at the current commit list and the 652 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: kids that they have currently committed, they haven't evaluated with 653 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: as good a grade, you don't think that there'll be 654 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: some work potentially done there. I don't think that with 655 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: all this time left between now and even the early 656 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: signing period, you don't think that staff's above gently suggesting 657 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: to kids keep your options open. I mean, we'll take 658 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: your commitment, but keep your options open. You might want 659 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: to look elsewhere. That's gonna happen. For just being honest 660 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: with ourselves, that could happen. So there's gonna be a 661 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: lot of flux with this class. It could be positive, 662 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: it could be negative. It could be a net equalizer. 663 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: We don't know what's going to happen. But I'll tell 664 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: you what excites me the most. If I'm Tennessee, if 665 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: I go from being ranked in the ten to fifteen 666 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: range and in next cycle line number ten, and let's say, 667 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: just for argument sake, let's say number seven. Let's say 668 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: this class finishes number seven, number one, that's the best 669 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: class we've signed under Jeremy Pruitt, and number two. This staff, 670 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: by way of landing all these kids in May and 671 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: their main task being just holding on to the current commits, 672 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: they have probably gotten a massive head start on the 673 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two class and the twenty twenty two class. 674 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: Once you've gotten a bunch of talent already employed. That's 675 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: the one where you look and say, could they finish 676 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: top three the twenty twenty two class with Tennessee. That'll 677 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: be the one where you start talking about the volunteers 678 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: threatening for the top spot. They're not going to do 679 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: it this cycle. They'll have a really good classes cycle, 680 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: but what they're doing now pays the way for a 681 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: potential springboard into what they could do next cycle, which 682 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: is they just proved a lot of stuff the previous cycle. 683 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: They've got the talent on campus to where one more 684 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: layers worth of another class could compete for a championship. 685 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: That's where you really start seeing some people all of 686 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: a sudden get uncomfortable with Tennessee football not being what 687 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: they're supposed to be anymore. And what they're supposed to be, 688 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: according to you, is just this big orange and white 689 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: pinata that comes into town. Or you go up there. 690 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter where we play you because we'll be 691 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: favored by three touchdowns anyway. Once Tennessee's no longer that, 692 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: all they gotta do is make you uncomfortable. They're like 693 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: the gnat around your ear right now. It just aggravates 694 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: you enough to where you paying that attention to swat 695 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: them away, but then you never quite kill that gnat, 696 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: do you. The buzz comes back about ten seconds later. 697 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: Tennessee's not going away. This is not going to be 698 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: a flash in the pan. This class is not going 699 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: to finish outside the top ten. They're not going to 700 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: have this mass wave of decommitments. They're not going to 701 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: start off the season this leaguer like in all likelihood 702 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: like they did last year. And so just quiet momentum, 703 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: all quiet depending on where you are, but just quiet momentum. 704 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: You don't have to fill the gap overnight. It didn't 705 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: get created overnight. So I'm excited. If no one else 706 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: is outside of big Orange country, I'm excited, Jamison. What's 707 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 1: up with Bama recruiting? Yeah, I was looking at this earlier. Today. 708 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: Bama's got four kids committed. I think it's four. They 709 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: just landed a big time receiver. They got two big 710 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: receivers committed already out of Florida. Where else? I don't 711 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: think they recruit receivers anywhere else but South Florida. If 712 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: you're north of Orlando, Florida and you're a receiver, you 713 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: probably just need to look elsewhere because Bama's got this 714 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: little circle basically where Howard Schnellenberger trademarked the Miami recruiting blueprint, 715 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: that's the Alabama recruiting blueprint. Receiver position. Now, what's up 716 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: with it, Jamison is I think you're already in the 717 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: process of seeing them start to make a move. They're 718 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: ranked in the forties right now. Few truths in an 719 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: uncertain world, kids, Alabama's not the finishing outside the top 720 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: twenty five in recruiting. I don't think they're finishing outside 721 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: the top five in recruiting, let alone where they are 722 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: right now. Here's what they like to do. They like 723 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: to be ultra picky. They like to be ultra selective. 724 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: And what happened? What just happened? What were we just 725 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: talking about? Well, what happened is the spring evaluation period 726 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: where a number one, coaches can be out on the road, 727 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: but number two, you can get kids in camps and 728 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: you can do your own in person evaluations. All that 729 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: was tossed out the window, and so Nick Saban doesn't 730 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: get to do the kind of evaluation that he wants 731 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: to do. Now, it's not necessarily a disadvantage for Alabama 732 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: because no one else got to do theirs either, really, 733 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: so the playing fields still roughly leveled. It's just now 734 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: Alabama has changed up a little bit about what they do, 735 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: and so you are now going to see them start 736 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: to take some kids, start to take some verbal commitments. 737 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: It's not that they have their class loaded up and 738 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 1: all the kids suck, that they don't have anyone in 739 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,479 Speaker 1: the class. And you talk to anyone around Alabama, there's 740 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: no concern about whether they're going to be able to 741 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: get elite kids. There's no concern. There never should be, 742 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: and there's not. Right now. They'll start taking some kids. 743 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: I know they got one the other day. I think 744 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: they probably have anywhere between two and six more, probably 745 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: ready to pull the trigger as soon as they get 746 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: the green light too, and then others who they're very 747 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: much in play with. My point is, come early to 748 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 1: mid December, you'll be talking about them and finishing inside 749 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: the top five like you always do. I know it 750 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: looks weird right now to see those class rankings, but 751 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: just as much as it looks weird to see Alabama 752 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: ranked outside the top forty, look who's currently ranked inside 753 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: the top ten. That's no knock on anyone there, but 754 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: I mean, if you really think that top ten is 755 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: going to hold through December, you're crazy. Landon asked right 756 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: before the show went on the air, what do you 757 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: make of the Georgia quarterback situation. Well, I think it's 758 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: Jamie Newman's job. Think it's his party there. I don't 759 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: necessarily know, and like I've talked about a number of times, 760 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of it, that's your question. 761 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of it on because 762 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: I don't know what style of football they're gonna want 763 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: to play there. I've gone over this quickly, just kind 764 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: of a cheater's guide to the overall take that we've 765 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: had on Georgia is you know, Georgia goes through what 766 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: they went through last year, and they were banged up 767 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: defensively by the time they played LSU. But regardless of 768 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: what the state of that program is, they got pasted 769 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: by LSU and they played good, that's what they know. 770 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: And they played good and still got flooded. They got 771 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: drowned by LSU's offense. To where you know, I think 772 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart finally looked around and said, I can have 773 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: the number one defense in the country. I got to 774 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 1: play teams like this, and if it's not LSU, I'm 775 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: gonna have to play Alabama. Then if I get the playoff, 776 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: I got to play Clemson. I gotta play Oklahoma. Man, 777 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: we got to be able to trade points. The best 778 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: defenses he was ever a part of at Alabama. They 779 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: didn't go through any seasons aside from the twenty eleven 780 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: season where they just shut everyone down defensively, there was 781 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: a game or two in there every time where they 782 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 1: had to trade points with someone. They could have number 783 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: one defense in the country and have to win forty 784 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: eight to forty two at Ole Miss one year. So 785 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: you got to do that at Georgia two and so 786 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: you got to do a couple of things. Number One, 787 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: you got to have the horses in the bar, and 788 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: they didn't have that from a personnel standpoint last year. 789 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: Number Two, you got to have the right quarterback is 790 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: Jamie Newman that they hope he is number three. Even 791 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: if you got all that in place, you gotta have 792 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 1: the right system in place. So they made a change 793 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: at the offensive coordinator position, but they lost Spring the 794 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: most integral time to install, especially new concepts, new systems, 795 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: new offense with a new guy under center at quarterback. 796 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: When you lose all that and you know you got 797 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: that elite defense coming back, you got to ask yourself, 798 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart very risk averse in nature. You know who 799 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 1: we learned under very risk averse? Is that the kind 800 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 1: of guy that's just going to say, also, what if 801 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: we didn't have spring Man? We had these Zoom meetings, 802 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: we installed everything over Zoom, and then we got in 803 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: fall camp, and those four weeks told me all I 804 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: needed to know a right, let's just turn it loose offensively. 805 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: Do you remember the game they lost last year South Carolina? 806 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: You remember what they lost that for? Remember that minus 807 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 1: four stat in the turnover category. Guys like him don't 808 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 1: forget that. Guys like him look around and say, only 809 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: way we're losing most of these games is if we 810 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: take too many risks. So is he all of a 811 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: sudden going to become a guy that says, I'll turn 812 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 1: it loose man caution to the win, let's turn it loose. 813 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think a lot of people expect 814 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: one radical or the other, and as usual, probably in between. 815 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: That's where we're going to land for Georgia this year. 816 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: Last question here Kevin asked, where does tuas little brother 817 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: end up. Talia Tonguabai Looa is his name, and he 818 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: is in the transfer portal at Alabama. Well, no longer 819 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: at Alabama. Now he's in the transfer portal and he's 820 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: not coming back. Some of these guys enter like JT. 821 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: Daniels enters the transfer portal, he could return to USC. 822 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 1: Maybe two is not returned into USC. This is worst 823 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: kept secret at Alabama. Man, everyone knew this was coming. 824 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: No one ever, No one ever thought he was going 825 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: to challenge for playing time there. I have it on 826 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: very good word that it did not take very many 827 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: practices for them to realize he's a good quarterback, He's 828 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: not a guy that's going to be able to play 829 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: a championship level in the SEC. And so very quickly 830 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: they realized that's not going to be a serious contender here. 831 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: And so it was a foregone conclusion that once Tool 832 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: was out of there, he was going to be out 833 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 1: of there shortly thereafter. So I think this got a 834 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: lot of national headline the other day. Folks around Tuscaloosa. 835 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: It was kind of like when Scott Cochrane left. Nationally 836 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: is like a Adam Baum and then you get closer 837 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: to Alabama and they went, what are we going to have 838 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 1: for lunch? And so that was kind of collectively the 839 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: reaction to him leaving. Where is he going? For a 840 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: long time, I heard Maryland because I heard Locksley was 841 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: very close with him. And you know, Maryland obviously does 842 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: not have the roster Alabama has right now. But given 843 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: that his older brother is now at Miami and we 844 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: know where he is now, whereas we didn't when those 845 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: rumors were flying, I don't have any information on this. 846 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: I would assume he'll probably look for a place to 847 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: play down there. And this, by the way, as a kid, 848 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm not handing out career advice, but this is the 849 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: kind of kid where if he landed at a Central Florida, 850 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: South Florida, Florida Atlantic, Florida International, one of these G 851 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 1: fives that don't perennially have five star future top ten 852 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: NFL draft picks coming in. He's a guy who could 853 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 1: carve out a niche and make a name for himself 854 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: and end up being, if in the right system, a 855 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: very good and prolific quarterback. I'm not trying to tell 856 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: you he's terrible. I'm just telling you he's not Trevor Lawrence. 857 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm telling you he's not Tua Tongua Bailoa. I know 858 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: that hurts to here. I don't think he's watching the 859 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: show tonight though. Again, I want to remind you, for 860 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,919 Speaker 1: the third week in a row, we had really good 861 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: traffic on our Late Kick Extra podcast. I record that 862 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: Tuesday night, I release it Wednesday with the help of 863 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,800 Speaker 1: Tany and Connor and the guys in the podcast department, 864 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: the podcast wizards, if you will, and so again. There 865 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: is a pinned section right below the YouTube video where 866 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: anyone who wants to get questions in for the Lake 867 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: Kick Extra podcast. That's all. It is, just Q and 868 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: a rapid fire back and forth Q and A. If 869 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: you want to get a question in and you want 870 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: to get it addressed, put it in the comment that 871 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: I've pinned right below the video. You'll see it clears day. 872 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it right now. Reply to this post 873 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: with your questions for the Late Kick Extra podcast. 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We have got thirteen minutes 883 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: until Last Dance seven and eight comes on ESPN free Plug. 884 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: There probably the first and last time until next time. 885 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for watching, guys, got a very good traffic tonight 886 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 1: and we will see you Thursday night Wednesday for the 887 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,720 Speaker 1: Late Kick Extra podcast. Have a great week, Stay safe, 888 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: God bless you. We'll see you next time.