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Speaker 1: Last name rhymes with duty. I'm going solo on that.

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Speaker 1: get to my May and Maddie Barnes. Um, they're firing

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Speaker 1: The Steelers would never bench Terry Bradshaw. The Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 1: I ain't going in. You go in. Okay, that was

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Speaker 1: whack ass mustache. It's my house, dude. I told this motherfucker,

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Speaker 1: Punk ass Ben mcadoody, punk motherfuck. You're gonna be coaching

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Speaker 1: like you know, you're supposed to be in the And

417
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: one of the things about the Wars that you never

418
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: see steps work and I know he's doing something. You

419
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: don't just shoot like that's not just some fucking magic stroke.

420
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: No it's not, it's not. I think if you see

421
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: the Warriors stuff, it's for the right reasons. And it's

422
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: never those guys posting it, you know what I mean.

423
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the private ship where you posted on

424
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: your own ship. You're absolutely right, you know what I mean.

425
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: And that's rare. Like these guys going to work, you

426
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: know what, you got these guys going into the gym

427
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: to work, not to you know, to take videos. You

428
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean that their work ethic is second

429
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: none from all of them, you know from the time

430
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: either they're getting shots before if not, for sure after

431
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: sometimes both. But you know, Clay had his basket, Katie

432
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: and Steph worked together, Draymond had his basket, you know,

433
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: Sean Limonton had Like these guys all put in that work,

434
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And and and Steph and

435
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: Katie's workouts are are legendary. The balanced stuff they do.

436
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: They do some weird ships, spinning around on one foot, fading.

437
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: It's just these crazy shots they make in the game,

438
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: Like they literally practiced the proper mechanics on how to

439
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: do that, so in the game, it's just like when

440
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: you're like, holy sh it, that was luck. These dudes

441
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: really work on that kind of stuff. What is Clay

442
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: Thompson's deal, because he's one of the most sort of understated, underrated,

443
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: Like you just said Clay, and I was like, thank

444
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: god you said, because I was gonna skip over go

445
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: right to Katie. This is a badass motherfucker. He barely

446
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: talks brings. I mean he the most we saw was

447
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: I think it was a China Japan. He was over

448
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: there in the summer, which is crazy. Yo. I'm still

449
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: in the group text with those guys, and I said, like,

450
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: I want to see China claymore, you know, but Clay

451
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: is what's his deal? I don't think people realize how

452
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: if you know the game like yourself, you know how

453
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: important Clay is to this team. Clay that motherfucker scored,

454
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: was it? What was his stat He scored sixty three

455
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: points on eleven dles. To me, that's that's that's goddy,

456
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 1: unheard of. But to me, it's on the defensive end.

457
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: Clay is the one that takes the pressure off staff.

458
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: If you don't realize, you know what I mean, because

459
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: he's the ones Clay is gonna guard Kyrie, Clay is

460
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: gonna guard Patty Mills. Clay is gonna guard Damian Lillard.

461
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: Clay is the defensive wing stopper. Not to say Steph

462
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: can't play d but I mean they're gonna put step

463
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: on someone that's not as much as a threat because

464
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,239
Speaker 1: Clay will take on that challenge, you know what I mean.

465
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: So that's why I had to tell Clay sometimes during

466
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs, because I don't even think he realized how

467
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: important he is. Sometimes there was streeches where he was going.

468
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: He wasn't scoring well, and I would see me. He

469
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: like you said, he's real quiet, so he would have

470
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: his head down and I'd either call him or tax

471
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: him later that night, like you know what's going on.

472
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: He's just like you know I was one for eleven

473
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: or you know I didn't hit the shots. I'm just

474
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: like Clay. People to know the game, especially our team

475
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: in this organization, realize how important you are. You're the

476
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: reason why Steph had there. I mean, STEP's amazing, but

477
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: you're the reason you helped Steph have thirty eight tonight,

478
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Because he didn't have to

479
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: chase Kyrie around, or he didn't have to chase these

480
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: other guards around. So that was something that I really saw,

481
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: just as a veteran player being around a lot. I

482
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: looked at him and saw like, I don't even think

483
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: he realized how important he is of that team. That's

484
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: crazy to me. That's crazy to me, because I mean,

485
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: he's so sick and like I said, I don't remember,

486
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm probably not getting ready, But it was like sixty

487
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: points in eleven dribbles that you think, Like to me,

488
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: that's up there with whether or not I still dispute

489
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: whether or not Will Chamberlain actually scored the hundred, because

490
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: there's no footage of it. Let's say he did. But

491
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: to score whatever, it was sixty points and again a

492
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: price saying wrong on eleven dribbles or thirteen dribbles in

493
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: the sixty point thing, that's fucking motherfucker's dribble ball eleven

494
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: times on one possession. Shout out to him and Kyrie, Right,

495
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a given. But but I mean that

496
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: is And I just spoke on his defense his he

497
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: might be and people think I'm crazy, like he might

498
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: be the best pure shooter out of him and staff.

499
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: And you mean, Clay Ship is so mechanical and so

500
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: picture perfect, picture perfect man. I mean, it's the pro

501
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: If you want, you know, your kids to learn how

502
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: to shoot, you know, watch Clay Thompson type things. So

503
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: Clay Clay is dope, man. And I hope the franchise

504
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: realizes how important he is, um, you know, because he's

505
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: someone that you definitely wouldn't want to slip away. Oh Ship,

506
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: They I don't know how that. I don't know anything

507
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: about the business of basketball, how they distribute the money.

508
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: It's a dirty business. It's a dirty business. Why you

509
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: say it's a dirty business. You think fourteen seasons in

510
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: the NBA. It's just it's it's at the end of

511
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: the day. You can't have feelings, you know what I mean.

512
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: It's a business. You know what I don't like though,

513
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: is it's the double standard. You know, we spoke about

514
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: this before. Granted, I don't like the way Lebron left

515
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: and went to Miami, Katie went to Golden State. When

516
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: these guys, when we as players take our future and

517
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: our happiness in our old hands, were the villains or

518
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: we're the bad guys when the organization cut you, trade,

519
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,479
Speaker 1: you waives you. It's the business, you know what I mean?

520
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: So where the funk is the median right there? Like

521
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: why I can't it can't. We can't always be bad,

522
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you don't want us

523
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: to be mad for trading, or you don't want to

524
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: be mad for cutting us. You don't want us to

525
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: be mad for waving us. That's the business. But then

526
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: you guys want to burn jerseys and talk shit. Right,

527
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: But the owner of the cas was talking crazy about

528
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: Lebron's and I'm sure they probably did the same thing

529
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: about Katie. So they're the villains because they want to

530
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: be happy and go somewhere and when but when when,

531
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: when it happens to us, it's the business, So it's

532
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: kind of just a double standard cold game. I totally agree,

533
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm I would say I have to be

534
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: up there with the world's leading ship talker against Lebron um.

535
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: But I know that my where my heart is in

536
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: respect for all you guys, for all the athletes that,

537
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: oh the sports I watched, I have such admiration and

538
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: whether it's Tom fucking Brady, can't stand that motherfucker, you know,

539
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: But I mean, I know what the fucking deal is,

540
00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, obviously Lebron his greatness is

541
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: and what he's done off the court to me, forget

542
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: the Big Three, forget the fucking titles, not titles, lost titles.

543
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: For me, the most impressive thing. And why I say

544
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: he'll never be like Mike, and it's the best reason

545
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: why I'll never be like Mike is because Mike when

546
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: he played didn't say ship And the fact that Lebron

547
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: is inspiring everybody behind him to be like, you know what,

548
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: I Am going to say something and and to do

549
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: it so outwardly and and do it in such a

550
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: raw way. Like I talked about the President, but when

551
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: he said you bumm you, I was like, I was

552
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: jealous and I'm a great ship talking. You have to

553
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: Lebron has done what he's supposed to do. Granted he's

554
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: not perfect. Granted he's the best. You know what I mean.

555
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: There's people on his ask right now, but he's the best.

556
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: So people are gonna hate him for those reasons. But

557
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: if you look at what he's done outside of the

558
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 1: way he left Cleveland with the big old press conference.

559
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: I didn't agree with that, but if you look at

560
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: you take that away. He's been a tremendous and said

561
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: for not only the game, but for the youth around America, UM,

562
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: the business seminars he holds in the off seasons, UM,

563
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: the outside businesses, the TV shows speaking up against the president.

564
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: Like to me, the only thing he needs to come

565
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: out and do now and say, like we need to

566
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: they need to legalize marijuana in the NBA, and then

567
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: he would be the goat you know what I mean?

568
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: To be real, like he's he's done what he's supposed

569
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: to do, man, you know what I mean? Like as

570
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: as the person with the platform. He's done it, you

571
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And like you said, Mike didn't

572
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: speak out, and you you you made a great point.

573
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: The fact that Lebron is speaking out is amazing. It's amazing,

574
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: and you know, everybody they admire all these other things.

575
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: But it's gonna inspire other people. Uh, younger kids who

576
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: look at him like Ali, you look at him like

577
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: Jordan or whoever you you're you're you're guying. Do you

578
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: think what is your take on on the marijuana's because

579
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: it's been It's like the fact that Karl Anthony Town

580
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: such a young player. You know, you guys have spoke

581
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: him out. It's Stephen Jackson Al Harrington talking about. But

582
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: when it's a guy in the league who's not just

583
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: some wayward twelve man, like he's a star and he's

584
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: a young star, superstar. And also you would never think

585
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: because it looks such like a nerve, like a nerve,

586
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: you just never know. To me, I have I have

587
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: a take on that. To me, it's a it's Uh,

588
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: it's crazy that the NBA or professional sports want to

589
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: give you prescription drugs and don't care how much alcohol

590
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: we drink. So you're risking getting addicted to pills. Like

591
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: Brett Farve didn't not to take shots. It's just it happens,

592
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: d U. I is all throughout professional sports, you know

593
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: what I mean. But that's but you want to outlaw

594
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: the one thing that's gonna keep your ass in the house,

595
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: relax you and make it so you don't have to

596
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: take all these pills or drink alcohol because people don't

597
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: realize our bodies get beat up. Beat up. I mean,

598
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: NBA is if you're a good team, you're playing a

599
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: hundred games a year with preseason, the playoffs and all

600
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: that ship. NFL these guys are Warriors hockey. These guys

601
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: are Warriors baseball players play a hundred and sixty two games,

602
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So to me, if I'm

603
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: a GM or a president or something, I'm thinking I'm

604
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: much rather have my guys sitting in this house smoking

605
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: a joint, watching TV, then popping pills out in the

606
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: club drinking. But how how are they gonna I got

607
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: a lot of questions about this, A lot of answers.

608
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: How are they going to make it so motherfucker's are

609
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: not showing up the games high? Like how do you score?

610
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: Is it is that on them. I think that to

611
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: be to honest with you, it's because just because you're

612
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: allowed to do it doesn't mean you you know, you

613
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: have to understand you gotta be responsible. You know, at

614
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, to me, the

615
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: the NFL test one time in the preseason. That's how

616
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't My first came in the NFL. Yeah, NFL

617
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: does one time in the preseason. And I want to say,

618
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: they test for uh performance enhancing drugs randomly throughout the season. Baseball,

619
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: I want to say, does the same thing. So basketball,

620
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: what's the NBA policy? Now? It's four random tests during

621
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: the season during the season, all year long. During the

622
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: season up up to four randoms and then in the

623
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: summertime you get tested for steroids. I want to say,

624
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: twice you get blood drawn. So so you're you're with

625
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: the team and you like, let's say it's last year

626
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: you're with the team. I'm just throwing out there, you're

627
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: with the Warriors and you guys are in fucking Memphis.

628
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: Could it be random like that? And they'll just go,

629
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: Matt Barnes, They'll get the whole Warriors team. What they'll

630
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: do about three or four at a time. So what

631
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: they'll do is, I think an hour before the test

632
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: they'll tell your trainer and then when you show up,

633
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: it's just like, hey, it's time to pee during the season,

634
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: But what about during the off season. I mean, I

635
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: just think if you're responsible and you can handle it,

636
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: do what you do. You know what I mean. Like

637
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: I said, it's it's it's a privioge to be able

638
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: to play this game. They give us a lot of money.

639
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: If that's something that's in your life, be able to

640
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: handle it like anything else, you know what I mean.

641
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: Some guys, I mean, it's crazy. I think the Josh

642
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: Gordon guys said he drank before games, and you know

643
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: what I mean, people, you to get through this. You

644
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: don't know what people have to go through, you know

645
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: what I mean. Some days your body is just not

646
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: there and you got to imagine you gotta get there something.

647
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: And I think I'm speaking more for football players on this.

648
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: You know, basketball players we get beat up, but these dudes,

649
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, take a ground. So however you gotta get there.

650
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: You gotta get there, you know what I mean. And

651
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: that's how some people just look at it. So without

652
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: naming names, would you say the culture of the NBA.

653
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: I would say, Uh, people smoke wheat that I mean,

654
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: I think that's the stereotype. That's the knock. You know.

655
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: I can't you know, I can't speak. I can only

656
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: speak for myself. I know what I do. But um,

657
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: it's just like I said, if you can handle it,

658
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: it should be something that should be looked upon. I

659
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: like I said, I like the fact that David Stern

660
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: has brought it back to the forefront. But it's easy

661
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: for him to do that now right The reason why

662
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: he's doing it wheat To me, I'm just like, where

663
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: was this ship when I was in the NBA. You know,

664
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: I lost a lot of money this did you get

665
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: did you get fine? Suspended? Not suspended? I almost you know,

666
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: I was in a program a couple of times when

667
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: you were how old? Um. Throughout my career, Yeah, I

668
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: spent I spent. I was you know, I was one

669
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: of the I was one of the loyal ones to

670
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: the programs. Do you think it will ever be where

671
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: the the NBA legalize it or they don't make it,

672
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: not legalize it where they don't make it. It's not

673
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the fact that they say, hey,

674
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: smoke weed. I just think it's a fact that, like

675
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: how how the NBA used to be when I first

676
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: came to the NBA. You get tested in the preseason,

677
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: just like baseball and football. So I get what you're going.

678
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. Mana, you test us in

679
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: the preseason and then if you want to see if

680
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: we're taking steroids and all this other ship tests us

681
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: for that. Do you think steroids and and and p ds?

682
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: Forget the weed in the NBA is a real thing

683
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: not a real thing? Or like, like what is your

684
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: take on that? It's hard to tell, man, you know,

685
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: I just think medicine is always going to be one

686
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: step ahead of any kind of testing, right, you know

687
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,479
Speaker 1: what I mean. So, like I said to this again,

688
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: I can only speak on myself. I didn't do it, um,

689
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: you know, but there was some days where I'm thinking, like,

690
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: damn if it you know, if if if this does

691
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: what it says it does, this would be amazing, you

692
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean. There's there's times I contemplated in

693
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: right for the recovery part, and that's all it is,

694
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean to me? If it was anything,

695
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, because I grew up. I went to high

696
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: school with a bunch of baseball players, so H G

697
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: H was prevalent when I was in high school and

698
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: starting to go to college. So I just used to

699
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: always be curious, you know what I mean. I'm too

700
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: scu I'm scared of death and needles to begin with.

701
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: How I have all these tastooms? You know, I really

702
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: looked up. That was the one thing I looked up,

703
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: and it just helped you recover. And if people understood

704
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: the riggers up a season from traveling from New York

705
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: and then the next night playing I'm back to back

706
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: in Dallas in a different time zone, and then get

707
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 1: home to l A. And then the next night play

708
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 1: Cleveland at home. And you're not even mentioned shoot arounds

709
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: practices and all that other ship and and being around

710
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: having your kids around you, and just like you, we

711
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: don't rest. We don't get the proper rest, you know

712
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: what I mean. And so, like I said, for that fact,

713
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: I think that also needs to be looked at. Do

714
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: you think that this season with the with the with

715
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: the rest the schedule, I mean, I don't even know

716
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: what the details of where they changed some games, like

717
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: you know, they started the season earlier, there's not as

718
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: much back to back. Do you think, like that's uh

719
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: good or like, do you think it will benefit or

720
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: is it not enough? I think it's good. I think

721
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: any extra rest is gonna benefit. But it's not gonna

722
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: benefit now, it's gonna be fit after the All Star Break,

723
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna benefit, you know. That's what that's the stretch

724
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: run basketball so long that I think there's a few

725
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: hot spots in the NBA when people are really paying

726
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: attention at the beginning of the season, and then it's

727
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: around holidays, you know, the Thanksgiving and Christmas games. Don't

728
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: even know if there's Thanksgiving games like Christmas games, and

729
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: then it kind of dies down in January leading up

730
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: to All Star Break, and then that that last games

731
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: in February after All Star Break is when the NBA

732
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: is the NBA and everybody tunes in. So that's when

733
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna benefit. Do you think that this season, Like,

734
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: I mean, as much as I think it's fucking bullshit,

735
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: and I really think it's some fucking bullshit, but the

736
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 1: Linso ball factor and and and and the Summer League

737
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: and all the fucking nonsense that went on with with

738
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: with the trade. I mean you forget, like ah, the

739
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: Kyrie trade and then the Gordon Hayward trade and Alonzo

740
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: ball in the summer League and all that ship. For me,

741
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm always watching, but like I feel like

742
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: it actually worked. Because basketball we're paying attention early. We're

743
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: normally opening days Christmas. I wanna definitely address Alonzo ball.

744
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: I have a lot to say about that. What do

745
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,479
Speaker 1: you think about hold on, let's get to the other stuff.

746
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: I think it was good. The action was good, the

747
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: movement was good. They kept people tuned in and kept

748
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: the NBA's name in people's mouth. It kept people checking

749
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: the clickers and watching TV, and it was at the

750
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: end of the day, it was good for It's good

751
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: for basketball. But but now me and you come from

752
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: an old school where teams were teams for a long time,

753
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But to me, there's just

754
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: no loyalty, you know what I mean. If a team

755
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: doesn't need you, they're gonna get rid of you. Or

756
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: if you know, if there's whispering, they're gonna get ready,

757
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: if you have a bad rep, they're gonna Like to me,

758
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: I've been on a lot of teams, but you can't

759
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: tell me that every team I've gone to, I started

760
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: every team. I've been the guy that closes the games.

761
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm in the playoffs, I'm doing this, I'm doing that.

762
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: So you can say what you want to say about me.

763
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: You got fucking trade. It's not like you you you're like, right,

764
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: I think like my reputation is what you know, But

765
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: once people get to like my teammates all love me.

766
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: But it's just the organizations. They're always on some imageship

767
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: or whatever. But just as far as you like, motherfucker's

768
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: you know what I think. Like, it's not like it's

769
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: not like you're like, y'all want to go from Sacramenter

770
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: to this team, like you know, it's the business man

771
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: and only a few of you guys could really choose

772
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: the It's like it's like you know, it's like and

773
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: to be able to like and to be able to

774
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: handle it to like people don't understand like going from

775
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: System System and like I said to always like, I'm

776
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: not someone that went from System System sat on the bench.

777
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: You know, I want System System the starting you know

778
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: what I mean to be in the major part of

779
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: the rotation, no matter what team I played off from

780
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: the Lakers with Kobe, to Phoenix with staff or with

781
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: you know, Steve Nash and these guys the Clippers, to

782
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: the first time with the Warriors. You know, started some

783
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: time last year with the Warriors, just like I was.

784
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: You know, I'm in the mix. You know what I

785
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: meant to be able to handle that. But back to

786
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: your point, um, all the talk about it was just

787
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: good to kept people focused, that kept the brand going.

788
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: And to a Lonzo Ball, Now, what do you mean.

789
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: I really like him. I think he's articulate. I think

790
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: he's a talent. I think he knows how to play

791
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: the game, and I think he's gonna be fine. I

792
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: just think that his dad doesn't realize how much added

793
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: pressure he's putting on him on a nightly basis. You

794
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: got the the ship you say, has got every player

795
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: in the league putting a bullseye on your son's back

796
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: every night. Now, granted, you know not that there's not

797
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: enough pressure where you You grew up in l A.

798
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: You went to u c A from one year and

799
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: you're the number two pick of the Lakers, Like that's

800
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: already like god damn. And then Maddie Johnson is stamping

801
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:39,959
Speaker 1: and you come out and have a good summer league.

802
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: So it's just like, okay, so that's already you know,

803
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, a lot to live up to,

804
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: because when I tell people, playing basketball in l A

805
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: Is so much more than just basketball in terms of

806
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: just life. It's a lifestyle, it's a culture. It's you

807
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 1: always have to be on you always have to watch

808
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: every step like it's it's a stress, you know what

809
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: I mean. So I used to like them when I

810
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: lived there. I like the high and I we're not

811
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: even on his level, you know what I mean. So

812
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: I just I used to always just needed to hide out.

813
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: I always needed to have a ducked off house. I

814
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: didn't always like being a spotlight. Even though that fucking

815
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: trouble fauld me a lot, I didn't like it, you

816
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But it's a lot to do.

817
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: So just the added stuff that his dad does is

818
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: just putting a target. So like you gotta think, every

819
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: single night the Lakers play, no matter if they win

820
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: or lose, this what what Alonso do? And then you

821
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: might and then you know, more times than not, you're

822
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: gonna catch an interview from his dad to me, I

823
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: love the fact that you're in your kid's life. I

824
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: love it. Everyone's gonna have opinion on this, so you

825
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: can say, funck my opinion whenever you can listen to it. Whatever,

826
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna have an opinion. But to me, I love

827
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: he's in his kid's life first and foremost, and not

828
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: enough black men are, So I love that. I love

829
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: the fact that you're taking this brand yourself, because if

830
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: you didn't do it Adida's Night, you're underarmed, will be

831
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: pimping your son out. So I love the fact that

832
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: you kept it in the house. But to me, it's

833
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: about your kids, you know I mean. To me, I

834
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: kind of feel like he wants to become famous too,

835
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because to me, the dangerou

836
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: drug in the world is fame. By hands down, people

837
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: will sell their soul to the devil. They will kill,

838
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: they will do whatever to be famous, you know what

839
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: I mean. And to me, that's what it seems like

840
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: more to me. Now, he may be an evil genius,

841
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: and I hope the brand does well, and I hope

842
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: they become a billion dollar empire and their kids and

843
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: kids and kids are set. But to me, all this

844
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 1: ship talking he does is only putting us a target

845
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: on all his son's backs, and you know, making about

846
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: the kids, making about the kids, and and this thing

847
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: that happened with li Angelo Ball. It wouldn't be national legs.

848
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: It would have been because levard Ball is his dad.

849
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: Is the only reason why it was that big, and

850
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: and and and that's like it does. It doesn't make

851
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: it I mean, that's my all, my water. It doesn't

852
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: make it right. It doesn't The fact that its U

853
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: c l A is a big deal of the fact

854
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: it would have been, it's a big deal, But it

855
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: wouldn't have got the coverage you got fun No, not

856
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: even close. Hell no, it would have been NBA Stars.

857
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: Brother got rest by That's it, little little sort of thing. Oh,

858
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: I agree. Now, I thought Patrick Alonzo has got a

859
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: lot of game though. You think he's gonna be You

860
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: think he'll be fine. Yeah, I think so. I think

861
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 1: after he just understands once that he once he gets

862
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: a handle on the pressure, because he's under a lot

863
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: of pressure crazy. Once he gets a grip on the pressure,

864
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: and it's just to be able to go that they understand.

865
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: Like he's not a scoring point guard, he's a playing

866
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: making point guard. But granted what he's got two triple

867
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: doubles in the season and the nineteen years, Like he

868
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 1: knows how to play the game, So just give him time.

869
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: Like I got a lot of faith in him. I

870
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a great talent. Now, now you may,

871
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: in my opinion or may not. You said you're not

872
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: playing any more ball. You may or may not play

873
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: anymore you're in the league. Let's say you're just say

874
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: you were playing this year, your first game against Linzo Ball.

875
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: The disposition that you have after all the ship that

876
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: his father was talking with any rookie, but particularly because

877
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: are you like, well, I'll just tell you, like the

878
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: game planning in the in the in the locker room

879
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: would because I would probably be the one saying, like

880
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: if I was with the Clippers, for instance, like me

881
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: and DeAndre Joro would be saying, like, yo, let him

882
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: come to the basket. We're gonna put him down one time.

883
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: That Patrick Beverley ship, like welcome to the you know

884
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's just that he doesn't understand like

885
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna do that to most rookies to begin with period,

886
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: just because but with him, but to him, and like

887
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 1: I said, and the people is talking so much ship.

888
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: That's the only reason though, because I guarantee people that

889
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: don't like LUNs of Ball, LANs of Ball didn't do

890
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: anything to make you not like you don't like you

891
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: don't like him because of whether Pops is doing straight

892
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: up and that's sucked up. Yeah, it's you don't even

893
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: give him a chance to like earn your hate. What

894
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: I guarantee of people that don't like this kid don't

895
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: like him because of his dad, they wouldn't even know

896
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: about him, like he would just be another high talented rookie.

897
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 1: And and and in my opinion, whether it's Lebron kg Kobe,

898
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: you any fucking player like you know when you're that,

899
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna make mistakes. They're just like there's

900
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: learning like him. It's like every basket he makes everything,

901
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: every everything he does, makes every turnover, every every whether

902
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: those doubles are warmed and anyway his field goal percent

903
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: like it's always going to be something to talk about,

904
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And now what they talk

905
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: about the other night where he didn't step to the

906
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: there was a pushing match and he didn't say like

907
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 1: everything he does is under a manner, like just get

908
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: off his nuts for him and let the kid be nineteen.

909
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: And but you guys, if you were with the Clippers,

910
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: you gotta put them on that ashroom one time for

911
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: the ones that. Yeah, we just got one time for

912
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: your mind. We gotta you know, we gotta check in

913
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: with them, you know what I mean. And that's how

914
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: But that's how the league used to be, you know

915
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like there's people don't think like that

916
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: no more, you know what I mean? And what can

917
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: happen though, it's you just have to you have to conform.

918
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what we think is older people now

919
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: we're old, you know what I mean? Seven fucking thirty seven. Yeah,

920
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: so it doesn't matter what we think no more. You

921
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: have to conform that. The game is fast, it's the

922
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: Golden State blueprint. So they want to see running gun

923
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: a hundred thirty points. They want to see Katie go

924
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: for fifty, Steph go for fifty. Clay do what you know,

925
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: that's what the world wants to see. They don't want

926
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: to see defensive battles. They don't want to see people

927
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: getting hand checked and not get into the basket dunk.

928
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: And like you can't touch nobody no more like can

929
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: you don't imagine if Michael Jordan played today, he would

930
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: easily average in the fifties because literal to the foul

931
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: line every game, thirty times every game. Like people think

932
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: James Harden goes to m j was going to the

933
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: foul line thirty times the game in this NBA, he

934
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: would kill it. It would be a joke, ridiculous, so

935
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: that the game is so fucking soft. Now it's like

936
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: it's disgusting. But that's what, like I said, it doesn't

937
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: matter what we think. Like it's running gun and this

938
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: is the style that is building this brand into a monster.

939
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 1: I call this the instagramification of defense. Do you think

940
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: that there's players who are literally afraid to check up

941
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: so they don't get crossed over, or jump so they

942
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: don't get dunked on, so they don't wind up on

943
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: the brand? I hope not, man, because but I'm here,

944
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's crossed their mind when but when you're playing,

945
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: like you gotta be locked in because like me, that

946
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: was my thing every night. I'm guarding Kobe, I'm Guarden

947
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: d Wade, I'm Guarden, Lebron, I'm Guarden Katie, So I

948
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 1: can't like their highlights crossed through my mind. I see

949
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: it on Phil, but that's the last. Like these motherfucker's

950
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: aren't doing that to me, is what I'm thinking. Right,

951
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna but I'm not gonna get out the

952
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: way for it. I'm a foulum or guard their ass

953
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: and if it happens, greatness, it's gonna happen. I like

954
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 1: the one thing going into this season so far the defense.

955
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: And I'm not like some fucking guys like I want

956
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: to see defense. I'm good, but I'm like, it's so bad.

957
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's moving out of the way. And like, yo, if

958
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: you're really playing defense, you're gonna get cross off. If

959
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: you're really it's part of the game. And I think

960
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: they're afraid to wind up on that that that ball

961
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: god or that that world star, and like it's unfortunate.

962
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying, It's unfortunate. Okay, before

963
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: we go into your I mean, like your fucking career

964
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: is crazy, like the names that the people that you guarded.

965
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: But one more question about the Warriors Kevin Durant, how

966
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: good is he? What's he's like and what was it

967
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: like being a teammate with all the scrutiny last year

968
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 1: was insane. The Oklahoma City games, the Russell Westbrook games,

969
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: and this was fucking nuts. That was fucking crazy. What

970
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: was that? What was that journey like? Uh? With being

971
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: a part of it with him? Have you ever seen

972
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: anything like that? I got there late, so I missed

973
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: the first time. You were the first the cupcake ship. Um,

974
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: But knowing Katie off the court before we became teammates,

975
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: he's just a good dude man, and you kind of

976
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: feel bad for him, not feel bad because the ship.

977
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: To me, he's the best player in the world. I'm

978
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: just gonna put that out there. To me, he's the best.

979
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: Lebron possibly passes the ball better. But you see Katie

980
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: playing defense this year, and I love that, you know.

981
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's eight, He's got an eight foot wingspan,

982
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You can see me. I

983
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: used to guard this mother. I want to tell him,

984
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: like guard him, you know what I mean. We had

985
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: a good talk before the season started. I told him,

986
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,479
Speaker 1: you know, last year you didn't step on it in toes,

987
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: but it's time to get back to me and Katie

988
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: this year and like I said, when I say that,

989
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: it's not being a ball hall because that's not in

990
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: his nature. He's a very efficient player, very passing player.

991
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: But just go back into showing like I think the

992
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: world might have forgotten, like the best player is. You know,

993
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: this is not a knock on Lebron. It's not a

994
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: knock on Steff. Steph some motherfucker too, like a mother.

995
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like Steph. I've just never It's

996
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: and you played against and Kobe's to me, Kobe is

997
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: the best player. I missed him j So to me,

998
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: Kobe is the best player of my generation, best player

999
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: I've evergarded. All of that, but these people were talking

1000
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: about right now, like Steph incredible. I've just never seen

1001
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 1: someone with so much ball control or touch or feel

1002
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: for the game. It's it's it's gross, it's disgusted. Grow.

1003
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: He had that one highlight I'll always remember when I

1004
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: was with the Clippers, and it wasn't the one where

1005
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: he stepped on christians shoe and made him fall. That

1006
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: was Clippers that night, but it was the one where

1007
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: we were I just gonna say this right now, because

1008
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: we've only been taught a lot of legendary moments like

1009
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: it's been around. You're fucking my head up right now.

1010
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 1: Can I just ask you this, no matter what happens

1011
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: on this podcast, Maddie B, will you please because this

1012
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: we're only gonna be able touch the surface. And now

1013
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: I'll come back. Yeah, okay, I'm all right. I got

1014
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: the verbal commitment. Yeah, I'm coming back. Okay. So, so

1015
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: we finished what you were you were talking about the

1016
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: one in Golden State where he like he went between

1017
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: his lays around his back, like step back, like over me,

1018
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: Chris Spencer, Haws and someone else and like you saw

1019
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr's face when I was uphere and he's like no,

1020
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: and then made and he couldn't believe. But remember it

1021
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: was at the top. It was one of the sickest

1022
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: things I've ever seen. But like I said, when I

1023
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: watched him and Katie work out, he works on the

1024
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: mechanics of a bad shot sometimes so that when the

1025
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: pressure is on in the game, like the balance isn't there,

1026
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: like he's still shot it enough in practice to know

1027
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: that he believes every shot is really going in. Incredible

1028
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: and man, you fucking my head up. Let me just

1029
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: throw this Atue you gotta bet a million dollars. Okay,

1030
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 1: you have to pass. No, it's not even pass the ball.

1031
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: You got a bet a million dollars for a guy

1032
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: to make fifty shots in a row in open gym.

1033
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: You get to choose between Kobe Bryant stuff. I'm not.

1034
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: You don't have to tell me the rest. Yeah, you know,

1035
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: maybe Clay. That's gonna be hard to tell tell. I'm

1036
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: sorry to tell me what you know. It's like it's

1037
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: a gym fifty you like, you know this guy is

1038
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: gonna make fifty and you have to give a million cash.

1039
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: There's no fucking interests, there's no checks. You gotta get

1040
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: the bag with the million that you got with anyone

1041
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: that's ever played the game. To be honest with you,

1042
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: and I could. This is no disrespect to no one.

1043
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: It's gonna be between Steph and Clay. Just to start

1044
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 1: straight shooter, straight freak show. Shoot. It might get ugly.

1045
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: They might sunk around here, like back to back, like

1046
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: they might go like seventy five in a row before

1047
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 1: they missed, like that kind of ugly ship like there

1048
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 1: to watch them shoot is just when I like sometimes

1049
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: cause I always work out after them. I always had

1050
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: to wait because I got there late and I always

1051
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: gonna do my routine, so I would have to sit

1052
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: there maybe twenty minutes and watch. And when I tell you,

1053
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 1: like when there's no hand in their face they make

1054
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: eighty five or ninety their shots, that's that's crazy. And

1055
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: you know it's crazy. You know, I've had the fortune

1056
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: of seeing basketball players work out in empty gyms or

1057
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: practice gyms, and you see like The Twelfth Man, you

1058
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: see Adam Morrison, you see Brian Scalabrini, you see everybody

1059
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: in the Big Three thirty shots in a row. Is

1060
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: they expect to make People don't understand that the one

1061
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: through fifteen will bust anybody's ass. What's your ass? People

1062
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 1: think when Scalabrini took on thirty like once he retired.

1063
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: Scalabrini had games too. I played against him and when

1064
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: he was he had game Like people don't understand the

1065
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: fields now, Plus you're asked and people getting, oh, you

1066
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: sit on the bench or you're this, you don't even

1067
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: play like you have no fucking idea what it's going

1068
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 1: on right now? The man cousin impractically. People don't understand,

1069
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: like when like teams really go at it, like the

1070
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: second team beats the first team. That happens, you know,

1071
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: I mean, And that's when you have a good team.

1072
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: When people are like like when in Golden State, our

1073
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: second team was given the first team, we would beat

1074
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: them this round. Yeah, and I would piss Draymond. I'll

1075
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: be out there talking so much ship and he would

1076
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: be talking ship when they win. Like it's like that

1077
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: kind of stuff happens, you know what I mean. So,

1078
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: but when fans so you don't play, or you sit

1079
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: on the bench, or you're the fifteenth man, I'm just

1080
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: like that fifteenth man. We'll bust your whole family's ass,

1081
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: your whole family, And you think best friend will bust

1082
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: your ass too, just because he's been around around the game.

1083
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: Like it's a round the game, all right, Kobe Bryant,

1084
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: you played with him. You played with my fucking guy,

1085
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: Phil who I'm so angry at Phil Man. This is

1086
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: just fan. You have a different perspective. I am fucking

1087
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: so disappointed with Phil. I'm not even bringing fucking fucking

1088
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: Jersey James Dolan. That fucking guy Phil really fucking broke

1089
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: my fucking heart. But I we can't get we can't

1090
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: divert Kobe fucking Brian. You played against him, You fucking

1091
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: threw the ball in his face. I mean you you flinched,

1092
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: you did the fake ball like he didn't move, and

1093
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: this is when you were at your craziest. Like I

1094
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this guy Matt bar is fucking scary.

1095
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 1: I was impressed that Kobe didn't flinch because this is

1096
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: when you're you know, you were at your like I

1097
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: think that was your height of like, yo, this guy

1098
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: is just I don't know. I just I think people

1099
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: see me look at me and think I'm supposed to

1100
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: be a certain way, but they don't know. Like I

1101
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: grew up in the streets, like my dad was a

1102
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: drug deal. I've seen a lot of ships, Like I

1103
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: grew up this life. So people say, like here the

1104
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: way I taught. My parents put me in white schools,

1105
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: Like I grew up in all black and Mexican neighborhoods,

1106
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: but my parents put me in white schools because like,

1107
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna be something like I'm not. I can't go

1108
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: to front school with my friends, and I always went

1109
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: to like I went. Then I went to a white

1110
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: high school, and then I went to U c l A.

1111
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: So I ended up talking different and learn a different way.

1112
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: But I came from that ship and people don't get that.

1113
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: So people looking Yeah, but people look at me like, oh,

1114
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: he's at Like no, like I've been fighting my whole

1115
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: life and that's not something proud of. It's just who

1116
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: I am you, and I'm glad that. Like I used

1117
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: to hate it when when I was younger my parents,

1118
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm Italian and black. You're you're half Italian, half black,

1119
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: straight straight up, straight up, straight up half Italian half black. Yeah,

1120
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: get the funk out of here, fucking in Mexican Puerto Rican.

1121
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm Italian and black. But I used to hate it

1122
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: when I couldn't be my friends and my parents woul

1123
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: put me in white schools. But that's just so in schooling,

1124
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: that's what I learned, and I went to U c

1125
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: l A. And did all that things. So but anywhere, like,

1126
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: I really came from that kind of stuff. So when

1127
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: people see it, they're like, oh, it's an act. I'm like, no,

1128
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: it's not an act. And and even with the Kobe thing,

1129
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: we have such a we had such a respect level

1130
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: for each other, like we were just really battling did

1131
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: that get your respect level together? Because we had already

1132
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: had it. Because, like I said, I've been watching Kobe

1133
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: used to come into U c l A. When I

1134
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: was at U c l A and workout. I remember

1135
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: when that one year he broke his right hand and

1136
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: came back the next season shooting left hand. He would

1137
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: go through fucking workouts all that he had have a

1138
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: cast on his right hand, he would do, did a

1139
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: whole workout left handed, jumper everything. Watching, Yeah, I like

1140
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: everything you would do when a work with workout. He

1141
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,959
Speaker 1: did it with his off hand and the ship blew

1142
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: me away. And then the next season came back to

1143
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: you know, kind of left hand of ship. But to

1144
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: me mentally, I've never seen nothing like him. Um, just

1145
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: a quick story the one time when I first time,

1146
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: we're going to Spain and we too go back to

1147
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: powers from and play over there, and we're on this

1148
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: big plane headed over there and um, he has his

1149
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: headphones on and he's writing down own and he's kind

1150
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: of just he's all you could tell his I couldn't tell.

1151
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: He was wrapping yeah and grabbing his head. He was thinking.

1152
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know what he was doing. So I just

1153
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: want everyone else asleep. I went over there to see

1154
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: what he was doing, and he probably had like fifty

1155
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: little courts on on a little white piece of paper,

1156
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: and I was just like, what are you doing? And

1157
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: he told me like, I never look at the man

1158
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: guarding me. I'm always expecting someone to help. I'm looking

1159
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: for that third defender. So when I know where you

1160
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: guys are going to be open on the court. And Mike,

1161
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: when he had just scribbles on these little courts all

1162
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: over the paper, and he was showing me like, this

1163
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: is the guy guarding me, this is helps Oude, and

1164
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: then this is the guy that also has the eye

1165
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: on me. He's like, so I'm trying to figure out

1166
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: where you guys are gonna be, and this ship just

1167
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: blew me away. I'm just like, you're that kind of

1168
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: animal like He's just like it's so into like almost

1169
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: to a point where like if you're that great, you're

1170
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: like you have to be a little off, you know

1171
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: what I mean, you have to be a little off.

1172
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: He was a motherfucker that if he missed thirty straight shots,

1173
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,479
Speaker 1: he's taking that thirty first in the game. And that's

1174
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: when people say, you know, they compared to Lebron to

1175
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: Kobe and Mike to me, which are the one and

1176
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: two best player in the world. And this is not

1177
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: unlock on Lebron. If Lebron missed ten shots in I

1178
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: think he would pass, you know what I mean. And

1179
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: that's not a bad thing. It's not a bad thing basketball, right,

1180
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: Mike and Kobe would shooting until they made it and

1181
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: keep shooting whence they made it. And to me, and

1182
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: that's like that's that killer like fuck it. If we're

1183
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: gonna go down, it's going to be because of me

1184
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: type mentality, you know what I mean. And to me,

1185
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: that's what puts Lebron in like a one B or

1186
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: a one seed, you know what I mean. To me,

1187
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: Mike and Kobe are one A and one B because

1188
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: that fucking killer dog doesn't matter if I miss every shot,

1189
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take every shot type ship. If you could

1190
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: go back in time when he when he threw away

1191
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: the little scribbles with the courts, and wouldn't you love

1192
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: to keep man if like people don't understand, like the

1193
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: ship blew me. And this is, like I said, this

1194
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: is someone I'd always had a respect for. Like to

1195
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: even go back to the Orlando ship. He was just

1196
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: fucking he was. If you watched the highlight those highlights,

1197
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: he was grabbing me an elbow with me and I

1198
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: had a dunk. Tippy eld me and my nuts. I

1199
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: just told him, like, you keep fun, We're gonna fun

1200
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: that We're gonna fight if you keep sucking doing like

1201
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: funk the basketball game. If you want to fight, we

1202
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: could fight. Like That's where I was at because the

1203
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: Red they're not gonna they're gonna call it to me

1204
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: every time. They're not gonna call ship on Kobe. So

1205
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: I'm just like, fucking, I'm getting these fouls, these technical fouls.

1206
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: We can fight, you know what I mean. And that's

1207
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: where my mind was that game. So when I when

1208
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: I faced the ball in his face, like it just

1209
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere like I planned in anything, and

1210
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: that ball, like if the ball had a hair would

1211
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:45,479
Speaker 1: have hit his face. The motherfucker didn't flinch. No, I'm

1212
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: not surprised he didn't. Anyone else would have. Fuck yeah,

1213
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: anyone else would have, you know what I mean. But

1214
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: it's just him. And then like so to fast forward

1215
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: that my my contract fell through in Orlando. I was

1216
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 1: supposed to do like a three year deal. Stand Ben

1217
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: Gunn the act of funny. I mean, two days in

1218
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: the free agency, Kobe calls me like, yo, you want

1219
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: to be a Laker. I'm like, hell, yeah, you want

1220
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: to call me? Yeah personally, and like three days later,

1221
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: I was a Laker. So after it was and I

1222
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: was at the end of it was basically right after that.

1223
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: It's really how I begetting a Laker. That's fucking crazy, man.

1224
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: That's crazy man. So, like I said, I've I've been

1225
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: I've been traded, I've played on several teams. But to

1226
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: me and to me, I've always been underpaid. To always

1227
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: been underpaid. Like you can kiss my ass if you

1228
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: tell me I shouldn't have been making at least the

1229
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: league minimum, if not more, in my whole career because

1230
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: I've always started, I've always played. They just low balled

1231
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: me because of my my my reputation. All right, you

1232
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: guarded Lebron What what what is that? What is that? Like?

1233
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: What what makes him so great? To forget what we

1234
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,439
Speaker 1: see on fucking TV? Forget me, I'm crazy. You're you're

1235
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: out there, you're a basketball fucking player. You gotta have

1236
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: a football player like a like a strong safety. Mentalitium

1237
01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: in your garden. You can't be afraid to like hit

1238
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: him with the shoulder or wrap him up and not

1239
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: be He's so strong, you know what I mean. If

1240
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: you have asked anything with him, he's gonna take you

1241
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: to the basket and dunk on you. Or and even

1242
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: if when you strong arm him, sometimes he's still going

1243
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: to do that. But I just always had a lot

1244
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: of success. Like I had a football background, so that's

1245
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: the way I played ballot. I feel like I was

1246
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,479
Speaker 1: just a football player playing basketball my whole career because

1247
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: I grew up playing football. Football is my first sport.

1248
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: So guarding him, if you ever look at stuff we do,

1249
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: like if I I'm a foul ship out of my

1250
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: because you have to like, no, I'm gonna wrap you

1251
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: up and grab you, so you're not going I'm gonna

1252
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: really hit you with my shoulder and get you off balance,

1253
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, so there's no it

1254
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,439
Speaker 1: can't be no soft ship with him because he's gonna

1255
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: exploit you if you do that. But to me, when

1256
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: he came in and said he couldn't shoot, he figured

1257
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: out how to shoot. To me, the only thing I

1258
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: would like to see lebron do and like I said,

1259
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,479
Speaker 1: everyone has opinion. You could say my opinion to master

1260
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: that block work because he's six nine to sixty two

1261
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: seventy back to the basket, shiity. It's gonna save a

1262
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: lot of energy too, because he's still he's what what

1263
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: are he's playing thirty eight minutes a game now in

1264
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: this fourteen season like ISO or sixteen wing? What the

1265
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: fun is going on here? Fourteen, fifteens whatever it is?

1266
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, but he's I think if he got

1267
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: a post game, it would be it would be problems

1268
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 1: because he's just no one known is that strong. Like

1269
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: I said, he's my height, but he outweighed me by

1270
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: forty five pounds, like a right, you know I'm six

1271
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: eight two. I was too twive when I played. He's

1272
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: six eight six nine to sixty to seventy, you know

1273
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like if if he got that down

1274
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: and I see him more and more than he's got

1275
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: a fade away on the block, but if he just

1276
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: got that just back down bully basketball to wrap Dwayne

1277
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: Wade like he's somebody like his greatness was so third

1278
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: best to guard of all time in my opinion, I

1279
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: agree Michael Jordan Kobe, Dwayne Wade. I agree easily, and

1280
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: never seemed like he was going fast. Obviously that's from im.

1281
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm on the fucking why was he just his athleticism,

1282
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: the his he was always great for I remember rejecting.

1283
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: We would the game plan, don't let him reject the pick.

1284
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: He would always set you reject the pick. Don't let

1285
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: him reject the pick. He would cross you over and

1286
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,919
Speaker 1: go baseline and dunk that ship or the euro step

1287
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: dunk like d Way was a monster, monster the whole

1288
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: package inside out. Defensive what is he like? Lit all

1289
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: the number one to guard and blocks of all like

1290
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: defensive he wasn't like he was just a hell. And

1291
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: I think it's sad because we live in such a

1292
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: what have You've done for me? Lately? Society that people

1293
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: they're asking the playoffs last year though he would don't

1294
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: respect greatness anymore. It's always like who's new, Who's next?

1295
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: Fuck these people in the past, like they like, people

1296
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 1: hate Lebron so much that they don't even understand, like

1297
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: what they're witnessing. People hate Steps so much they don't understand.

1298
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: They hate Katie goes on and on other sports like

1299
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: people hate to greatness just for that reason. And it's

1300
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: so much to what have you done for me lately

1301
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: that people don't respect it. And like you said, someone

1302
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: like the Wade to me is easily first about Hall

1303
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: of Famer. It's gonna be huge for them in the

1304
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: playoffs right now doesn't matter, huge for them in the playoffs.

1305
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: Third best to guard of all time. And people just

1306
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: kind of always on Cleveland now it's crazy. It's crazy,

1307
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: I mean. And he turned it up when they were

1308
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 1: making the run last year with Rondo and then they

1309
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: were The Wade is a monster, like he said when

1310
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: at his with his injuries, his age, Like you gotta

1311
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: pick and choose, like I said, people are talking about

1312
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: right now, like right now doesn't mean ship. The Wade

1313
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: is gonna hit his stride in March and be a monster.

1314
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: Who were other guys you know besides the obvious Enoble?

1315
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: Jenoble was tough for me to guard. Why just because

1316
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: he's similar to d Wade and just the lefty, just

1317
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: very crafty. You knew he was gonna go left. You

1318
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: could still couldn't stop him. He had the euro step,

1319
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: he could dunk on you, he could shoot the ball

1320
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: at amazing shot fake, he could passed the ball. Janoby's

1321
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: one of the greatest of all time. Melo was always

1322
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: tough for me because full set Mellow was strong as fun. Yes,

1323
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: but Mello would give it to you from anywhere, jumper,

1324
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: dunk on you, block footwork like to me, second second

1325
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: best player I've ever played with footwork behind Kobe. He

1326
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: was someone that wasn't like I think, to me, some

1327
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: guys like know what move they're gonna do before they

1328
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: need to do. Kobe and Mellow would attack the wrong

1329
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 1: foot forward or your balance being offered you your mistake,

1330
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 1: like some some guys that preconceee move where I'm across

1331
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: them up and do all that ship to make a

1332
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 1: move like they would be so patient and sew a

1333
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: piece with their game was they They would be like, Okay,

1334
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: he reached, I'm gone, or his his left foot forward,

1335
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm attacking that like that's the kind of ship they

1336
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: were on. Mellow was a monster. Yeah, I still is.

1337
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: I think, oh, no question, because he's a fucking scoring machine,

1338
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 1: and I think like him coming out with d Wade

1339
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: and Lebron really fucked him. I mean not that I

1340
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: think that he in my opinion, the deficiencies, whatever, but

1341
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: as a scoring fucking machine, the whole back to back

1342
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: to the basket front, jab step, the whole deal. Think

1343
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 1: about how different his career would have been if Detroit

1344
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: wasn't some dumbasses and drafted him over Darko Militis and

1345
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 1: him being with Ben Wallace and Chauncey Billups and Rip

1346
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: Hambleton and those guys as a young player winning championships.

1347
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: To me, he just has a fucked up knock on him,

1348
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's just always been on

1349
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: whatever type teams, Like he's never really been on a

1350
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: championship caliber team, but he's always been a superstar to score,

1351
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: so he gets a selfish all of mellow score. But

1352
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: when you see him playing on the Olympic team is

1353
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: amazing because he knows he can trust those guys. He

1354
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: knows those guys got his back, they know he knows

1355
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: those guys. He's just never really been on a team

1356
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 1: in that kind of environment. I wish that when he

1357
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: was really I mean he's still mellow, but when he

1358
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: was mellow mellow, he was on like in a team

1359
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: environment where he could have really had some dope vets

1360
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: to kind of show him a way. Like I said, Detroit,

1361
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: if they would have drafted him like they were supposed to,

1362
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: would have been Mellow's crew would have been way different.

1363
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: How important do you think that is for these young

1364
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,560
Speaker 1: kids to have you, to have vets around them? But

1365
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 1: I mean when you're nineteen, forget Linzo, but but all

1366
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: of them, you know, the first round guys, the second

1367
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: round two year old, twenty two years old. So it's

1368
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: a new world. How important is it to It's crazy because,

1369
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm the last. Like my ogs were

1370
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 1: like Chris Webro, you know what I mean, Like someone

1371
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 1: there was really like a super vent, like he had

1372
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 1: a bad rappers one of the best people I've ever

1373
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 1: met to his friends to this day is still a

1374
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 1: close friend of mine. Like those days of kind of

1375
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: mentoring and kind of bringing the young guys along is

1376
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: gone because everyone's worried about these young guys taking their

1377
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 1: jobs now, you know what I mean. So it's not

1378
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: so much like Mike, let me take you and show

1379
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: you the ropes and so you don't sunk up or

1380
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: I fucked up. Let's work together, let's work on this game.

1381
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: It's not that no more, because guys are worried about

1382
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: their jobs, you know what I mean. So there's almost

1383
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: a disconnect, which is which is unfortunate because like I said,

1384
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: when I'm on the team, regardless, I'm gonna go out

1385
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 1: there and win. I'm gonna earn my minutes. Regardless of

1386
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 1: how younger, how old you are, I'm gonna get on

1387
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: the court somehow. So I just expect you to do

1388
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 1: the same. But at the same time as a young player,

1389
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: like all my all my young dudes call me O G.

1390
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,759
Speaker 1: From you know, from Draymond Green to Willie Collie Stein

1391
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: to DeAndre Jordan's people. I talked to k D. You

1392
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: know guys that I'll just send random texted during the season,

1393
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, when I see a game and I'll hit

1394
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: him up and we'll just have a right after the game.

1395
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: They'll probably be in the locker room sometimes we're going

1396
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: back and forth about the game, like appreciate that O G.

1397
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 1: You know what it means, Like it's just that kind

1398
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: of thing. Um. So it's unfortunately they don't have that

1399
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: no more, because, like I said, guys are just different.

1400
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 1: So I hope that you know, some of the guys

1401
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: maybe I rubbed off on as as as young players

1402
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: will bring that back. But I kind of think that's

1403
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 1: a lost art because that's like eighties, nineties, early two

1404
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: thousand type ship. This new age of a you type

1405
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: is a whole another game. I agree. And you know,

1406
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: one of the things when I was around, um, the

1407
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: Big Three in the summer, you know, I felt like,

1408
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 1: I'm like looking at some of these dudes and I'm like,

1409
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 1: what is this guy in the NBA? This guy should

1410
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: be at least, you know, tenth man on some team

1411
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: like and I'm looking at I'm like, I feel like

1412
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 1: they wanted to get rid of them on the phone,

1413
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 1: no question. That's why I'm not playing. I can still

1414
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: play you, just play. I can still play you. People

1415
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 1: don't realize, like I was playing five minutes a game

1416
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: for the best team on the planet, the Warriors last

1417
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: before Katie. You know why Katie was hurt and then

1418
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: I get hurt the third of last game six weeks

1419
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: with an ankle sprain. So I really don't play in

1420
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 1: the playoffs in the final, So you're you what it was,

1421
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: it was a free ride. I appreciate you going state,

1422
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But to me, like I

1423
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 1: found my whole career to get there and then like

1424
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 1: to finally be there. It was tough not to actually

1425
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 1: be on the court with those guys, you know what

1426
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: I mean. But it's just but you're a part of

1427
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: that team. It's not like I was a partner. I wasn't,

1428
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:49,560
Speaker 1: Like I said, But yeah, that's what I'm saying to

1429
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 1: kind of get back to the point, like I could

1430
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: definitely still play, right, you can't sell them. Do you think?

1431
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: Are you done? I'm done? Yeah, you don't want to play.

1432
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: There's certain situations that my age and I discussed teams

1433
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: that we've spoken to and made aware that if they

1434
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: need something, I'm still staying in shape and ready. But

1435
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: it has to me right now at this point. Like

1436
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: I played years, I did well with my money. I

1437
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: was fortunate enough to get a ring last year, you

1438
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So if an amazing opportunity presents

1439
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 1: itself on one of the three teams that I had

1440
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 1: spoken to, cool, If not, I'm good with that too.

1441
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm at peace with the other decision as well. So

1442
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: you'd only come back if it was a specific team,

1443
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 1: a few specific teams specific. You're not going You're not

1444
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: coming to my fucking knicks just to coming up. There

1445
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: was teams that you don't wanted me to and that's

1446
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: what was crazy to me. Like I said, I had

1447
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: just coming off playing well, I've never I think Mike.

1448
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 1: What made me last is I kind of always know

1449
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 1: who I am, Like I never knew I've been. I'm

1450
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: a role player, you know. And one thing doc us

1451
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: to preachy, just be a star in your role. Like

1452
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 1: I know what the funk I'm supposed to do. I

1453
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 1: know that I'm supposed to play defense, be tough, rebound, hustle,

1454
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: and knockdown threes. That's my job. So I've always stayed

1455
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: in my lane. That's why I've outlasted number one picks

1456
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: and lottery picks in first round picks, and I'm the

1457
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: middle of the second round pick and I lasted fourteen

1458
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: years because I've always known my role, you know what

1459
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: I mean. So there's just certain stuff you have to

1460
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:08,640
Speaker 1: do to stay in the game. That's why I know

1461
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 1: I can. I could have played if it was up

1462
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 1: to me, I could have played until I didn't want

1463
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: to no more. But I think like my off the

1464
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: court ship finally caught up to me and they're like,

1465
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 1: all right, this motherfucker gota ring. Let's get his ass

1466
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 1: out of here. Ship man. That's fucking cold bloody, I mean,

1467
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: but it's the business. It's the business. I had to

1468
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: be the bad guy, I think really like the turning

1469
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: point in my career. Like to me, I had to

1470
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 1: scratch and claw like it was either me or you,

1471
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I'm not I'm gonna

1472
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: make it whether I gotta fuck you up or we

1473
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: gotta play basketball like I'm gonna play in the NBA.

1474
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 1: That's how I looked at it. So at the beginning

1475
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: of my career, I was physical. I would hard foul people,

1476
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 1: and I think that reputation stuck with me. So one

1477
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: step my skill and my my mental capacity and everything

1478
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: else caught up with my my myself and I really

1479
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: learned to play basketball. I still had this fucked up reputation.

1480
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: So it's just like, fucking I'm gonna be the bag.

1481
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the best bag I can be. So

1482
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: when I put the ball in Kobe's face, that's kind

1483
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 1: of when I became like I put like the black

1484
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 1: cape on. Okay, there's the fucking asshole. He's the bad guy.

1485
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: And I was to this day. That was what was

1486
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 1: that was that two thousand nine, Like it's almost years

1487
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 1: and years like people still that's when I became the villain,

1488
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, and I've done other

1489
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 1: stuff too, you know, off the court stuff, but it

1490
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 1: was always some real ship that had to happen type

1491
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It wasn't me out here

1492
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 1: looking for trouble, you know what I mean. So it's

1493
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 1: just like I think the NBA feared me because I

1494
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 1: was so real, like I think they think because and

1495
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 1: granted it was a blessing to be able to play

1496
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 1: fourteen years and do what I did and make it

1497
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: a living to put a ball in the hoop, like

1498
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: that's a kidding me. It's a blessing. But at the

1499
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: same time, like they think they own you. I was

1500
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: always the guy. Whether I'm gonna speak up for my teammates,

1501
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna speak up for guys on the other team

1502
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: if I see him getting funed by a certain situation.

1503
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna speak up for other sports just because like

1504
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: there's not enough people that do in all walks of life,

1505
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 1: even in politics, you know what I mean, Like I'm

1506
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: gonna speak I have a platform, Like why not use it?

1507
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: Like you say, keep it stay you're a sport. No motherfucker,

1508
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: I had this platform for people to listen, and I'm not.

1509
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: The sports is a small part of my life, you know,

1510
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 1: my father, I have businesses. Like the rest of the

1511
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 1: world affects me just like it affects you. So why

1512
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 1: can I use my platform? Like? Fuck you? You know

1513
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: like what I'm talking about my platform? Agree And you

1514
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 1: know people love uh Muhammad Ali, people love they have

1515
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, the the the the Major League Baseball retired

1516
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson's number, and it's all well and good when

1517
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: it's forty fifty years after the fact. But to accept

1518
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: the change, the kneeling, the protests that people speaking out

1519
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 1: while it's happening, Like if you have to go from

1520
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: you you just moved from one city to another city.

1521
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: Just moving is any kind of change, whether it's fucking

1522
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: personal relationship, getting a different kind of car change, But

1523
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 1: social change is really uncomfortable and and it ain't. It

1524
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 1: ain't Hunky Dorry because we're in a social media society

1525
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 1: now with Kaepernick and this fucking president's tweeting out about

1526
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch and LaVar Ball like, you're like, this is insane.

1527
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 1: I just I think people want to so much make

1528
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 1: it not about race, and unfortunately, Mike is always going

1529
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 1: to be about race, always, somehow, some way. And this

1530
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: is coming from someone that's what you can say, white

1531
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 1: or Italian and black, Like I've seen both sides to

1532
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 1: the fullest. It's always gonna have something to do with that.

1533
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 1: And to me, what Trump did is what Obama did.

1534
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:31,560
Speaker 1: Obama brought minorities out to vote and be prevalent and

1535
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: use their voice because Obama gave us hope. Trump did

1536
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 1: it another way. Trump knew to get in the House,

1537
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: he had to get the rednecks and the Confederate flag

1538
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 1: flyers and these racist people to be in his corner,

1539
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 1: so he started talking that racist ship. So now he's

1540
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: so deep in the game that it's just like, Okay,

1541
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: I gotta ride this out. But to me, I'm glad

1542
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: that I know what you confirmed. What I what you

1543
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: guys have always called us niggers or talked about us

1544
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 1: behind closed doors, or laughed about us with your friends.

1545
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: I'm just glad some of you ballsy enough to say

1546
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 1: it to my face, because I'm gonna respect you. I

1547
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: don't like what you're saying, but I'm gonna respect you

1548
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 1: if you call it to my face. Don't stay behind

1549
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: closed doors. I'm glad I know how you really feel,

1550
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: and it's you would be crazy if like to me,

1551
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: all the owners in sports are like they're not, not

1552
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 1: all of them, excuse me, but the majority of them

1553
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 1: are coming from that you know. If if you know

1554
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that good old boys like the last

1555
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 1: of the girls, like you can hear it in that

1556
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: old oil money, old family inheritance. So these were niggers

1557
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 1: to all these people behind closed doors. Don't givea fun

1558
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 1: what you say. You know what I mean. So to me,

1559
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm glad. You're just showing what we've always suspected you're

1560
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: saying about us. You know what I mean. You just

1561
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: proved us right. Doesn't make it right, no, can you do?

1562
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 1: We have the right to fight, Yeah, but you're gonna

1563
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 1: be fighting your whole life, you know, I mean to me,

1564
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 1: and sometimes fighting is still gonna happen because some of

1565
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 1: these people are just outright disrespectful, like you disrespect my

1566
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: kids or my significant other. And I don't care who

1567
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: I am or where I'm at, it's gonna be a

1568
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: physical problem and that's just who I am. I probably

1569
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 1: go to jail. You're probably gonna assume me, and that's

1570
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:06,560
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. But that's just what it is, you

1571
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So we have to find another way.

1572
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 1: And I just don't know if we really are going

1573
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 1: to find another way because you know, racism is taught,

1574
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,719
Speaker 1: and it's like I just watched the documentary on Netflix

1575
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: here about the KKK, and they got these little kids

1576
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 1: dressing up saying nigger and you know, doing the hand

1577
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 1: motions and wearing hoods, and I'm just like, these kids

1578
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 1: don't even know what they're three and four years They

1579
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:33,560
Speaker 1: have no clue to them setting them up for Like

1580
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: why Like why not just teach them to love people.

1581
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: It's easier to be happy than het is. A is

1582
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: a heavy burden to hate anybody, Like I don't hate nobody.

1583
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 1: I don't hate my ex, I don't hate Derek, I

1584
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 1: don't hate no one that's done me wrong. Like I'm

1585
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 1: at peace with everything. Like hate is a heavy burden. Like, man,

1586
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 1: kill that energy and it's it's crazy. Man, were you

1587
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 1: with the clippers during the Donald sterling? Yeah? What was

1588
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 1: that craziness? Like like that was it was it was unfore,

1589
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because it was this is

1590
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 1: right before. This is when we beat the Warriors in

1591
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 1: the playoffs. This is right before because the follow years

1592
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 1: when the Warriors became the Warriors, this is the Mark

1593
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: Jackson Warriors, right, So this is you know, I was

1594
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 1: the one that it came out. I want to say,

1595
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 1: before we the night before we had a game and

1596
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 1: going state, the first first part of it came out

1597
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: and when he started to saying what he was saying

1598
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: and everything, and I'm typed with bed Baron Davison. Baron

1599
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: Davis been told me about Donald Sterling, you know what

1600
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 1: I mean, And that bearing someone I've known for a

1601
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 1: long time. So it didn't surprise me. Like I said,

1602
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: none of this stuff surprises me, you know what I mean, Like,

1603
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 1: it just doesn't surprise me. So to me, it's not

1604
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 1: really that big of a deal. Um, you know, my

1605
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 1: kke my high school was you know, vandalized by the

1606
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 1: KKK because I beat this kid up that was calling

1607
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 1: my sister and niggats. I've just seen that just the

1608
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 1: most extreme size of racism. So I don't that none

1609
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: of that stuff affect me. But back to your point,

1610
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 1: it came out the night before a game. So it's

1611
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: just like so we start talking in the group chat

1612
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 1: as player, like what do we do the next morning

1613
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 1: at breakfast? You know, Doc makes the speech and what

1614
01:19:58,320 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: do we want to do when whatever we do, we

1615
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: gotta come together as a team, you know. So we

1616
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 1: came over with some stuff, and you know, we decided

1617
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: to wear the shirts backwards with not showing the Clinton

1618
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 1: and you know, to toss him and center Cord and

1619
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: we just wanted to I don't know, it was just

1620
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: it happened so fast that we just wanted to show

1621
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,600
Speaker 1: some kind of unity, as you know, because percent of

1622
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 1: our team was black, you know. I mean I think

1623
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 1: we had Spencer Haws and a couple of equipment. Man,

1624
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of white guys sprinkled in there.

1625
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: JJ Reddick, but he want JJ's black by by affiliation. Um,

1626
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 1: we just want to show some kind of you know,

1627
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 1: you know, forfeit the game. Don't play. Don't like you're

1628
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 1: trying to tell me we're in the NBA playoffs and

1629
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna let this motherfucker say some stupid ship and

1630
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 1: we're not going to play because like you. How about

1631
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 1: you don't go to work because your boss feel the

1632
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,560
Speaker 1: same way about you. That kind of stuff pissing me

1633
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 1: off on all these but don't don't play, don't do this,

1634
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:49,600
Speaker 1: don't do that. Like, how about you don't go to

1635
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 1: work because I guarantee some of your bosses don't like

1636
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 1: you either. You know what I mean that you but

1637
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 1: you want us to not do it? You know? So?

1638
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 1: But the dozign starting stuff was crazy. It wasn't really

1639
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 1: that big a deal to me. They made it a

1640
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: big deal. You know, race is a big deal. You

1641
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 1: know some sometimes they pick and choose on race is

1642
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: a big deal. So, I mean they got him out.

1643
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 1: Bomber came in an amazing human being, great heart, great spirit.

1644
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: I wish that got nothing but the best. But uh,

1645
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 1: it was interesting. Hey, I can imagine. All right, Maddie Pete,

1646
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 1: I got so many more questions. We must shut it down.

1647
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 1: This is this is dope. This is dope. This is dope.

1648
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, Matt. I'll come back, man, whenever you

1649
01:21:25,560 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: need me. Let's do it. That was seven