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Speaker 1: It's kind of amazing. Give them some love. Uh The

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Speaker 1: Bucks defense has been good all year like that they

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Speaker 1: kept him in this game and then finally I think

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Speaker 1: the reason I was a little disappointed to by the

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Speaker 1: ending of this game, and why I know Mark was

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Speaker 1: on on our text thread. I wanted some NFC South chaos,

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Speaker 1: like explain what you would have been looking for, you know,

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Speaker 1: the rest of the season and in the NFC South

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Speaker 1: that they had lost this game, or the repercussions of

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Speaker 1: this game. It was a huge game. Yeah, it would

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Speaker 1: have been cool to see, like the Falcons have a

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Speaker 1: chance with a losing record to try to make some noise.

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Speaker 1: But I guess at this point the Buccaneers are gonna

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Speaker 1: go into Dallas and get their butts kicked in the

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Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs most likely. So this this

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Speaker 1: puts the Bucks at six and six. If they had

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Speaker 1: lost this game, the Saints would have had five wins,

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Speaker 1: the Bucks would have had five wins, the Falcons would

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Speaker 1: have had five wins, and the Panthers would have had

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Speaker 1: four wins. And yes, it would be more as ugly

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Speaker 1: and annoying as this division is, every team looks the

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Speaker 1: None of them are good. They at least would have

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Speaker 1: been ugly compelling or ugly um important down the stretch

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Speaker 1: because all their games would have kept mattering. Because if

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Speaker 1: you look at the Bucks schedule the next couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: they have the forty Niners next week. I know it's

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Speaker 1: brock Purty, but the Bucks are underdogs in that game,

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Speaker 1: even with brock Purty. Uh then they have the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: That's a loss. If they had lost this game, justin

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Speaker 1: I think they would have been staring at five and nine.

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Speaker 1: I really think the Panthers are probably playing the best

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Speaker 1: in this division. But you could easily make the case

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Speaker 1: of any of those four teams making it, and I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're quite out of it yet. The

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Speaker 1: Falcon they're not. But it's a little harder for the

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Speaker 1: Panthers now to make up two wins over the rest

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Speaker 1: of the season. The Saints would have, actually, who have

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Speaker 1: a pretty forgiving schedule the rest of the way, would

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Speaker 1: have maybe been the favorites in this division. They had

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Speaker 1: They're going into their by and then they would add

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Speaker 1: the Falcons, Brown's Eagles, Panthers. Uh So, other than the

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Speaker 1: Eagles game, you know, they would feel good in their

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Speaker 1: division games, Like division games are going to decide a

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Speaker 1: lot here. But that's why It's just a total gut

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Speaker 1: punch of a of a loss for the Saints and

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Speaker 1: their fans, except for my friends on the Saints Twitter

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Speaker 1: podcast who just want to hashtag fired Dennis Allen, and

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Speaker 1: so I'm looking forward to hearing their uh addition and

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Speaker 1: of of this game because if nothing else, this could

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Speaker 1: help them in that in that endeavor. Each of these

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Speaker 1: NFC South teams has two division games left, which means

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Speaker 1: it's really not over. And the fact that the not over,

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Speaker 1: but it would have been like way more just like

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Speaker 1: wide open and felt like it was starting to like

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Speaker 1: just be over for the Bucks. Even Yeah, it'll be

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Speaker 1: fun if the Falcons Bucks Week eight teen game is

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Speaker 1: for the division, but the Falcons have to make up

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Speaker 1: some ground before then for that to be a thing.

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Speaker 1: And one more thing about this division. There's two divisions

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Speaker 1: in the NFL where every team has a negative point differential,

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Speaker 1: the a f C South and the NFC South. It's

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Speaker 1: a really crazy year that both Eastern divisions are so

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Speaker 1: strong and both Southern divisions are so bad. That was

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Speaker 1: not a bad game in the end. It was It

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Speaker 1: was a bad game for most of it, but it

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Speaker 1: had a good ending and a great ending. It's all

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Speaker 1: you need. Let's uh end this podcast in a positive way.

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Speaker 1: Top six list tonight in honor of Tom Brady. The

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Speaker 1: greatest seasons ever by quarterbacks over the age of forty

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Speaker 1: in the NFL number six war in the Seahawks led

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Speaker 1: the league in yards per game passing, had a lot

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Speaker 1: of interceptions, but he made the Pro Bowl at forty

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Speaker 1: with the Seahawks. Number five is Brett five and that

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Speaker 1: oh nine Vikings season where he just turned the clock back.

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Speaker 1: He electrified the NFL. It sort of got me realizing,

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Speaker 1: as stupid as this is what the whole Brett Farve

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Speaker 1: phenomenon was all about, because I sort of jumped in

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Speaker 1: in terms of a profession just when he was starting

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Speaker 1: to get annoying around two thousand and three, uh and declining,

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Speaker 1: And that season was so much fun. Number four in

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Speaker 1: the list Tom Brady two thousand and eighteen. People think like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that wasn't that great a year for them. Oh, they

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Speaker 1: got carried to the Super Bowl by the defense. Uh Uh.

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Speaker 1: He went to overtime and out the old Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: in Arrowhead. Before that, he put a forty burger on

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers the round before that, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: hear anything about carried by a defense. Number three Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady the night season winning the Super Bowl with the

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers in a new spot stuck it to uh anyone

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Speaker 1: who thought he was done, including Bill Belichick. Number two

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Speaker 1: on the list, Tom Brady one. He should have won

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Speaker 1: the MVP last season, No wonder he wants to keep playing.

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Speaker 1: He was the best quarterback in the league. And then

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Speaker 1: finally number one on the list, Tom Brady two thousand

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Speaker 1: and seventeen. Yes, they lost to the Super Bowl to

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, but that was the best super Bowl I

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Speaker 1: think he ever played it, and he was on fire

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Speaker 1: that entire season. Problematic defense, but oh my god, was

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Speaker 1: he good. So yeah, you might think he'd be getting old,

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Speaker 1: and he got lucky tonight. But don't ever forget that's

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady you're talking about. For Justin Graver, I couldn't

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Speaker 1: be any more annoying then I just was I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: Is that okay? Justin? Yeah? That was great. I mean

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that one was maybe going too far.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back tuesday, Colleen Wolfe is there. Until then,

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