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Speaker 1: What is it not funny city? Good morning, Sweemerld and

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Speaker 1: welcome to the No Dungks podcast on the Athletic Network.

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Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, January twenty fourth, twenty twenty four. I'm Jays

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Speaker 1: here in the Classic Factory, and alongside me is always

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Speaker 1: housekeeping for you guys real quick. Here on Monday, January

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Speaker 1: To be paying three coaches now, right. I know that's

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Speaker 2: He's better than Adrian Griffin, and I think that the

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they could be better. Sometimes they are awesome

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Speaker 1: You if you like you, everybody's gonna be like going nuts.

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Speaker 2: He's a he's a great campaigner, man, I know I

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Speaker 1: On TV.

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Speaker 3: Yeah anymore?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who's gonna take over the NBA Finals?

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Speaker 3: They basically called him over. Oh you're in Vegas, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Why are they going to trade though, I mean they

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Speaker 3: Do, yeah, I think they bring in Jake Rouder and

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Speaker 2: That would be my guess. That's weird.

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Speaker 1: It'd be very weird.

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Speaker 2: Man, Oh, that would be amazing. And if the Bucks

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Speaker 1: I mean, the scriptwriters you know, are working overtime right

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Speaker 1: now to make that happen. That's gotta happen, especially especially

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Speaker 1: Johannis didn't want Nick Nurse and like he was gonna

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Speaker 1: He's always got his guitar, never stops, you know, fiddling

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Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, I want to see Doc as the head

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Speaker 3: and I don't got one at this time. Dave the

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Speaker 2: Do you think this reflects poorly on Giannis?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he botched it.

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Speaker 1: But both hand in hand, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look what happened here is all these like

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Speaker 1: trying for for a very long time and got an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: But like, this is a team with Giannis and the

435
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Speaker 1: way they're constructing currently constructed, and then adding Damian Lillard,

436
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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you gotta win the title right now.

437
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Speaker 1: That's a a lot of pressure, and for again, like

438
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Speaker 1: a first time head coach, that's a lot. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I think Giannis in sort of agreeing to

440
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Speaker 1: move off of Griffin and go wherever they go, is

441
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Speaker 1: admitting to yeah, you know, sorry, whoop's my bad. He

442
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Speaker 1: wasn't the guy because you know, the confidence wasn't there,

443
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Speaker 1: and as the season went on, it was getting worse.

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Speaker 2: It was getting better, exactly.

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Speaker 1: You gave it half a season and it didn't see

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Speaker 1: like any promise that it would get any better.

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Speaker 3: That part can definitely be ridiculed. Maybe he just didn't

448
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 3: know all that well. But as far as Budenholzer goes,

449
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 3: they're starting, we're starting to see it. You win a championship,

450
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Speaker 3: you get a couple of years after that. Frank Vogel

451
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Speaker 3: sort of same thing, Nick Nurse sort of the same thing.

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Speaker 3: And Budenholzer wasn't doing a good job in that five

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Speaker 3: game series Round one against the Miami Heat. Wasn't giving

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Speaker 3: the ball to the right guys. Middleton was solid and

455
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Speaker 3: not touching the ball in that last game. Things were

456
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Speaker 3: just falling apart, and so I can see why they

457
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Speaker 3: got rid of Budenholzer for sure. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: that plays into what's happening now, Like like you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: maybe it's the Dame Gianni's pick and roll, because I

460
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Speaker 3: am going back to Chris Middleton, the pick and roll.

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Speaker 3: That's what it should have happened in Game five of

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Speaker 3: that series when things were just falling apart. They didn't

463
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Speaker 3: believe in their coach. And maybe guess is going back

464
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Speaker 3: to that, we don't believe in our coach.

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Speaker 1: So bring Bud back. Don't have to pay a third guy.

466
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Speaker 1: Then it's already paying you. You're back in man.

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Speaker 2: I have a go on a good note from johns

468
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Speaker 2: human here in the stream team David Blatt fired January

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Tyler was the All Star coach that year. Wow, So

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Speaker 1: they have done it. That's amazing, excellent, But that's a

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Speaker 1: little different because he's on the ross, he's on the

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Speaker 1: he's on.

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Speaker 3: The team, and that was his first time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tyler was an assistant. Was he not on the Cavs.

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Speaker 1: He didn't come in.

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Speaker 2: Right, he was already there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. So this would be doctor

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Speaker 1: walking in, Hello, I am your all star coach. He

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Speaker 1: would get the coach embiid again like immediately, I don't.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, keep her eye it. We don't even

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Speaker 1: know if it's doc man, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I thought the US got our first ever emergency podcast

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Speaker 2: for a coach.

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Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, yeah, shocker, that's big again.

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Speaker 2: We don't it's coaching.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's move to some of the games. Last night,

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Speaker 1: Speaking of coaches, we had an incident between the Blazers

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Speaker 1: and ok See. The Blazers are filing a protest with

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Speaker 1: the NBA to challenge the result of their one to eleven,

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Speaker 1: one o nine loss to the Thunder last night. The

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Speaker 1: Blazers are contending that their coach, Chauncey Billups, when they

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Speaker 1: had a one nine one oh eight lead, was clearly

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Speaker 1: calling the timeout on the sidelines before a referee whistled

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Speaker 1: a double dribble on guard Malcolm Brogden with like fifteen

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Speaker 1: seconds to go in the game. He was pissed. He

497
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Speaker 1: popped off, he got slapped with two technical fouls. He's

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Speaker 1: ejected and SGA goes to the line, splits the pair

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Speaker 1: of the technical free throws. Ty game Jayalen Williams JDub

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Speaker 1: hits a tough shot. They win with two seconds to go,

501
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Speaker 1: put them up and they go on hold on here.

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Speaker 1: So so this is you know, this is rare, but

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Speaker 1: we see this from time to time, a team filing

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Speaker 1: a protest. What do you think a tray of the

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Speaker 1: what went down there in OKC and whether Billups and

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Speaker 1: the Blazers sort of got screwed on this one. I

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Speaker 1: think they did.

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Speaker 2: You know, you can see in the reverse angles Billups

509
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Speaker 2: coming in and calling a timeout. You can also see

510
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Speaker 2: that the ref is clearly not looking at him. They're

511
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Speaker 2: playing an okac okay, see has the trap, So I'm

512
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Speaker 2: sure it's very loud there. So I think it's on

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Speaker 2: the refs to kind of like know the game situation. Right,

514
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Speaker 2: there's under thirty seconds left, a trap is happening. Timeouts

515
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Speaker 2: happened all the time there, so they got to be

516
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Speaker 2: ready for it. They completely blew it. But I don't

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Speaker 2: think the protest is going to get overturned.

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Speaker 3: No, way, No, I don't think so. Maccolm Brogden also

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Speaker 3: is drilling the ball up and the referee is in

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Speaker 3: front of him intent, but he turns around. He turns

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Speaker 3: his back to the referee and is looking at Chauncey

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Speaker 3: Billups and then double dribbles. And while he's sort of

523
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Speaker 3: doing that, he is calling timeout to Chauncey Pills. But

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Speaker 3: he should be doing it to the referee and and

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Speaker 3: that's a problem. And also there is there's digno is

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Speaker 3: sort of in the way of Chauncey Billups and yes,

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Speaker 3: so the referee maybe not looking there. Butchzi Bis also

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Speaker 3: wasn't doing it with his hands. He wasn't doing the

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Speaker 3: signal with his hands. He may have been yelling time out,

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Speaker 3: but he didn't do the signal. So Malcolm Brogden is

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Speaker 3: looking at the referee instead of turning around. He can

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Speaker 3: just say time out, man, he can just say that

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Speaker 3: directly to that referee who's right there. I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: why Brogden didn't call it.

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Speaker 1: I mean he panicked a little bit.

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Speaker 3: He's getting trapped, yeah, and that's what the referee was

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Speaker 3: looking at.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: The worry of the worry of doing this is obviously

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Speaker 1: you're stopping a little bit, you're holding on the ball,

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Speaker 1: and then you're worried, Oh, here he comes the hands

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Speaker 1: John ball situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can hold the ball and say time out.

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Speaker 1: I know, and he was, but he There is a

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Speaker 1: photo of Brogden or video on from the flip side

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Speaker 1: of him making a little bit of a t while

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Speaker 1: he's got the ball in his hands. But you're right,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like the one official can at.

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Speaker 3: Least see it. And that's he wasn't doing X rays.

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Speaker 3: He can't see through his body.

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Speaker 1: They did the whole Pool Report interview after the game.

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Speaker 1: Crew chief Bill Kennedy said Billups was not granted a

553
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Speaker 1: timeout because the referee was focused on the play in

554
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Speaker 1: front of him, making it difficult for him to hear

555
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Speaker 1: and see Billups request. I'm with you, I don't believe

556
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Speaker 1: this one is gonna be one of these rare games

557
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Speaker 1: because it's happened before where we say nope, reset the

558
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Speaker 1: timer and we're playing the final fifteen seconds of this game.

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Speaker 1: In fact, we haven't had an upheld protest in like

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Speaker 1: since December two thousand and seven, the Old Shack game

561
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Speaker 1: where then Shaq was traded to the Suns that didn't

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Speaker 1: even play in the in that re what they play

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Speaker 1: the final fifty two seconds of overtime or some weird

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Speaker 1: thing where nobody scored. It was like a complete waste

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Speaker 1: of time if I remember correctly. Anyway, the point is

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Speaker 1: still sucks and it's a bad look considering this game

567
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Speaker 1: happened a few hours after the league told us in

568
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Speaker 1: the Wolves Hornets game from Monday night that they had

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Speaker 1: ten ten missed calls in the final two minutes of

570
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Speaker 1: that game where Katlan for sixty two, but they fell

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Speaker 1: apart at the end. They were like saying, everything was

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Speaker 1: wrong in the final two minutes. So just at you know,

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Speaker 1: bad couple, bad stretch here for the officials because they

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Speaker 1: missed it. They didn't miss it, they missed it. And

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Speaker 1: then that game was pretty agregious.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they Okay, see could have won this game even

577
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Speaker 3: easier because there was two technicals. Two referees called technicals

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Speaker 3: against Chauncey Billups. One came from this side, one came

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Speaker 3: from the other side.

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Speaker 1: The second one was a little quick from being honest

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Speaker 1: a little bit, and he's like he's arguing, I'm calling

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Speaker 1: a time out. Okay, I get the one I think,

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Speaker 1: and then it wasn't long after that. I mean he

584
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Speaker 1: kept calling.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't just that Chester.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he only bumped the first guy. I kind of

588
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Speaker 2: felt bad for Bill Kennedy, like he's the one who

589
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: had to explain it all. It make any of those

590
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Speaker 2: these youngsters out here couldn't handle the pressure.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they got two free throws out of it, and

593
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: Shaye only hit one one. And then Jalen Williams Jay Dubb,

594
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Speaker 3: who's been playing awesome, had the ball up top and

595
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Speaker 3: it looked like a play for Shay, but he kind

596
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Speaker 3: of got doubled. So Jalen does his thing, goes to

597
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Speaker 3: the left and hits a beauty shot.

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Speaker 1: And he had hit him one a big shot prior

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Speaker 1: to that too. This was a bit of a j

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Speaker 1: dub takeover here doing the old decoy with SGA, which

601
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Speaker 1: is is the move it.

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Speaker 3: But even him during the postgame interview, he was basically

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Speaker 3: the postgame interview but said, you guys were recovered, you

604
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 3: guys didn't play all that well, and he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're right, we should have played better, but that's what

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00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: we do because they are an oldie. That guy is

607
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 3: a second year player, but he plays like he's an oldie.

608
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 3: He plays awesome. They're awesome.

609
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Speaker 2: He's first in the NBA and clutch field goal percentage

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Speaker 2: this season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw it. He's only missed like three times

612
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Speaker 1: or something like that.

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00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's the number two option. And we've seen

614
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: chat Holmgrin hit like massive shots so far. So this

615
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: is a team that comes through in the clutch quite often.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was great that Jalen Williams was cooking

617
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Speaker 2: because the Blazers were doing really good on Shay Gil

618
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: just Alexander. They were staying down on pump fakes, they

619
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Speaker 2: were going chest to chest with them. He only maybe

620
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Speaker 2: didn't take a ton of free throws. I thought it

621
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Speaker 2: was a good stuff. But you know, Jalen Williams is

622
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 2: also awesome. That's just how it is.

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Speaker 1: Four other games on last night, Do any of you

624
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: guys have a favorite that you wanted to touch on.

625
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: I can go through them quickly, yo, get tripled up.

626
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: Nuggets beat the Pacers, Runton and Randall awesome again. Knicks

627
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: pick up their fourth straight win. They beat the Nets.

628
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: Kawhi had his second career triple double, Clippers beat the Lakers,

629
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Speaker 1: and then McCollum scored a season high thirty three as

630
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: the Pels destroyed the Jazz one fifty three four, And

631
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Speaker 1: you jump out to you, guys.

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Speaker 3: There's one fifty three the Pelicans franchise record. I think

633
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Speaker 3: it is. That was there.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot.

635
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was complaining yesterday about Zion not being

636
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 3: the same guy, but Willie Green has that team playing

637
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 3: a certain way where everybody is a passer essentially, and

638
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: even CJ. McCollum has changed his role from being point

639
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 3: guard to more like an off the ball shooter. So

640
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 3: they really have done something extremely well there. Obviously ridiculous

641
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: amount of field goals, and I think a franchise high

642
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 3: forty one assists as well in those sixty field goals.

643
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 3: So hello, that is a lot of stuff happening. Nick

644
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: Nets was so super fun. I wonder if Mickel Bridges

645
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 3: is alive again, because he did not look like the

646
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 3: same player as he did last year after coming from

647
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: Phoenix over there. I don't know if it was just

648
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: going a pair made him feel good again, made him

649
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: feel like, oh yeah, I remember when I played in

650
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: the World Cup and I was awesome. Because he's looked

651
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: so good his last five he's average twenty five, he's

652
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: average twenty six with the nets last time, and and

653
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: maybe the end Josh Hart with that huge block that

654
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: saved maybe saying Bruce Brown doesn't need to be a nick.

655
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: I can be Bruce Brown. Just keep me around. That

656
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: was just a fun, fun, fun game. And the nets

657
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 3: look like since Paris, they look like a different team.

658
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Speaker 1: Any thoughts on a of these four games?

659
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, I was also impressed with Zion. I think

660
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: he's been passing the ball really well lately, eleven assists

661
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: last night. He had a nine assist game I believe

662
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: over the weekend. And he's seeing a lot of walls

663
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: in front of him and he's finding guys, so I

664
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: think that's awesome. And also he caught an alley op

665
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: and hit his head on the backboard. Was how did

666
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: he don't get left handed on the left side? And

667
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: how I caught that? That was really cool. And then

668
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: like you're saying, the next game was really fun that

669
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: sequence with a minute left, Claxton blocks Jalen Brunton at

670
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: the rim. Dennis Smith Junior pushes in transition, but Josh

671
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: Hart flies back challenges it a chew a tap off

672
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: the glass. Then og Anenobi blocks Cam Johnson, a saved

673
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: by Josh Hart gets it to Julius Randall, who gets

674
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: it to Jalen Brunson, who gets it back to Julius Randall.

675
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: Knicks up too, And I almost felt myself being a

676
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: Knicks fan in that moment. That was just a pure

677
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: effort out there and connectivity and playing for each other

678
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: to not give it up in that scenario. Bad gamble

679
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: by og Anobe. I thought on the last shot for

680
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: Cam Johnson, I guess he's trying to get a steal

681
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: on Bridges, but they he doesn't get it. They got

682
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: a wide Pretty good luck for Johnson who couldn't knock

683
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: it down, But I don't know about Michale Bridges. He

684
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: seemed kind of sad in his postgame interview because he

685
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: did not like here and let's go Nix. Let's go

686
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: Nix in the park place cet.

687
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Speaker 1: He's got all his Villanova guys over there too. Yeah,

688
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: I mean he had a good game, but you're right,

689
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: I think he was a little down in the dumps. Also,

690
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out the All Star starters tomorrow night.

691
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: On TNT's pregame show. I don't know if he's gonna

692
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: be there. I don't think he is. But Jalen Brunson, man,

693
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: holy shit, this guy should be starting the All Star Game.

694
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: He should be there alongside probably Haliburton. I know Mitchell's

695
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: been awesome too. Brunson is on a heater right now.

696
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: Man thirty points last night, before that, thirty eight, before that,

697
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: forty one, before that thirty. Then there was two games

698
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: he didn't play. The Knicks lost one of them to

699
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: the Magic. He had thirty before that, he had one

700
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: bad game in this last ten game stretch, let's call

701
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: it you had a twelve point game. It was in

702
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: a huge victory over the Blazers, though, and then he

703
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: had thirty three twenty nine to thirty one. One of

704
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: those games he had thirteen assists. He is on fire.

705
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: And it feels like every Knixt game you see the

706
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: box score, it's like Randall thirty, Brunson thirty. Every game

707
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: it feels like this, and which is why they're racking

708
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: up all these victories. So, I mean, he's gonna be there.

709
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: So I don't think he'll be starting, but he's gonna

710
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: be obviously, selected, and Jamal Murray's making a late All

711
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: Star push to be selected by the coaches too good timing.

712
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, he's averaging twenty five, seven and four.

713
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: He had thirty one last night, Jamal shooting nearly fifty

714
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: percent from the floor over that stretch in January, and

715
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: Denver's eight and three. Denver is now basically tied atop

716
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: the Western Conference, danding he might be helping his chances,

717
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: Jamal to get that first selection because you know, if

718
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: they're the best team in the West record wise, when

719
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: the coaches select this next week, they might pick two.

720
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: He might they might pick him with whey he's been playing.

721
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of great guards, but he might.

722
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: He might be timing this perfectly to maybe get selected.

723
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Speaker 1: So it was my thoughts on last night.

724
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Speaker 3: Yeah, big being that Oklahoma City is guaranteed just one,

725
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 3: maybe not a second. Minnesota timber Wolves may probably two,

726
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: but not necessarily. And the fact that Denver's tied with

727
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 3: those two teams. Good, yeah help them that. Yeah. Yeah,

728
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: you know, Jamal Urray was just the best guard on

729
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: a championship team, right, so right, yeah, all that.

730
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Speaker 1: We've talked about that we'll see.

731
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: I kind of think the team most likely to get

732
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: two All Stars in the Western Conference is the Los

733
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Speaker 2: Angeles Clippers.

734
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Speaker 1: Pro you think Kawhi and Paul George.

735
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're right. Paul George is ballin this year.

736
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: He did not starve for the Clippers last night, just

737
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: seventeen points, Kawhi Leonard twenty five, eleven rebounds and tennisists.

738
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: James Harden also twenty three points and tennisists. Obviously, the

739
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: Clippers are rolling and continue to roll right now. And

740
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: it's hard to choose between Kawhi Leonard and Paul George.

741
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: They've both been so good. Yeah, but the two guys

742
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: I was most impressed with last night a mere coffee.

743
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: This guy doesn't always stay in the rotation for the Clippers,

744
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: but every time they play him, he's awesome. Nine points

745
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: last night, he hit three threes, and then Norm Powell

746
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: had seventeen points. Off the bench, he made a three,

747
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: a couple of assists. I think he's actually the most

748
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: underrated player in the league. Never gets brought up for anything.

749
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: They needed a lot more offense from him. Last year

750
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: he scored twenty a game. Great efficiency. Now that they've

751
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 2: got more talent and more health. This season, the numbers

752
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: have gone down, but he is an absolute bucket and

753
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: just a weapon for the Clippers off the bench. There

754
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: is no drop off when he comes in.

755
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, sort of wild when you look at all the

756
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: teams in the West and you go, well, a lot

757
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: of these teams could interior. You have two all stars, Okce,

758
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: it's probably just Sga. It's a little too early, I

759
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: think for for Chet Holmgren or even JDub the Wolves,

760
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: of course, you know, with one of their bigs be

761
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: it Cat and then Anthony Edwards the Nuggets, we said

762
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: yokichin Murray the Clippers, he said, Kawhi and Paul George

763
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: the Pelican. I mean, will Zion and or Brandon Ingram

764
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: get selected both? Maybe probably not both, but the Sons

765
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: obviously with their big guys, and Katie and Booker, the

766
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: Kings with Suppons and Fox, the MAVs. You know, Kyrie

767
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: missed a good chunk of time. I don't think he'll

768
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: be selected, but obviously Luca will be a starter. The

769
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: Lakers with Lebron and Ad like, you just keep going,

770
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: maybe you stop there and then you get to the

771
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: Warriors obviously with U with Curry. But yeah, we'll find

772
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: out the starters tomorrow night, reserves next week.

773
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 3: What do we do to have a third team? We

774
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: should have a third team. Most there's lots a third team,

775
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 3: And because there are guys that aren't talked about in

776
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 3: the league that are close to being stars, we should

777
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: create a team here. Norm Powell, Okay, it's not an

778
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: All Star, but CJ. McCollum has been dying to make

779
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 3: an All Star game. He ain't there. He's shooting nearly

780
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 3: forty five percent from three career high. That's a good

781
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 3: stat Anyways, the guys who aren't talked about in the NBA, McCollum,

782
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 3: Norm Powell, Luke Cornett know he's talking about. But there's

783
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 3: got to be a list. There's gotta be a good third.

784
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: You want a third team of what about this guy?

785
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,479
Speaker 3: And they come in, they're gonna play hard, They're gonna

786
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 3: play hard. We weren't named to the first two. We're

787
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 3: gonna kick ass, and we want want people to play

788
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: hard in the All Star Game.

789
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: Maybe all right, we gotta take a break when we

790
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 1: come back. Lots of other NBA news and its NBA

791
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: Rivals week. We're going through the top five games to

792
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: watch for this week. Don't go anywhere. Okay, lots more

793
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: NBA news to get to here. Yesterday, the Hornets made

794
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: a major move in sending starting guard Terry Rozier to

795
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: the Miami Heat, and Mitch Kupcheck their GM says there's

796
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: a good chance they aren't done wheeling and deal in here.

797
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: The Hornets received a protected twenty twenty seven first round

798
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: pick from the Heat and Kyle Lowry, who they are

799
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: hoping to move before the deadline in exchange for Rosier,

800
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: who's having a career best year twenty three points per game,

801
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: forty six percent shooting's played really really well. TK. You

802
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: weren't here. We reacted to it while it was happening

803
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: on yesterday's podcast. Do you have thoughts on the Rosier

804
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: headed to Miami deal with Lowry going back to the Hornets.

805
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it both ways. From the

806
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 2: Heat side of things, Kyle Lowry's production had fallen off

807
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: and they couldn't really justify at this point with a

808
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 2: contending team using a thirty million dollars salary slot on

809
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: him with the way he's playing right now. They also,

810
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 2: at the same time, have found out that their current

811
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: set of assets wasn't good enough really to get stars

812
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: right like they tried for Damian Lillard. They said, no,

813
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: thank you, we don't want your Tyler Hero unless you're

814
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: gonna give us Hime May Hawkas, and they can't trade

815
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 2: that guy. They got to keep Hawkas right now. So

816
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 2: they realize the situation. We're not able to outbid people

817
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: for stars right now if some come available. Look at

818
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: teams like the Thunder and the Jazz, they have so

819
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: many picks that they could easily out be at bid

820
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: the Heat. So the Heat figured out a pretty smart

821
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: way to use a first round pick and only one

822
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: first round pick if you're the Hornets. The chances of

823
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: it actually being a great one pretty poor, but you know,

824
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: at least you're getting a pick for a guy who

825
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: you probably don't need to pay at this point. So

826
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Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what Terry Rozier can do with

827
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: the Heat playing in some actual big playoff games. He's

828
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: kind of been lost there in Charlotte four and a

829
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 2: half seasons of scraping into the play in tournament every

830
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: now and then, but the guy has hit some big

831
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: shots during his time in Charlotte he's become a realistic

832
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: clutch option for that team, and now he's gonna have

833
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 2: much less responsibility. I think it'll be interesting to see

834
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: how Eric Spolster uses them because Terry Rozier is pretty

835
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: good with the ball and Tyler Hero is pretty good

836
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: playing off the ball. Tyler Hero also pretty good with

837
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 2: the ball. So I don't know exactly how it's gonna work.

838
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 2: But they got some more playmaking, they got some more shooting,

839
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 2: and they just got a little bit more depth for

840
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 2: a guy in Lowry who seems on his way out

841
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 2: and just wasn't working well with the heat. So let's

842
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: get it done right now onto the next one. So

843
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: I think smart stuff for both sides.

844
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Speaker 3: I love Terry. I can't wait to watch him with

845
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 3: a good team. And we look back at the Miami

846
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: Heating last year when they went to the championship, they

847
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: had a point guard who could shoot at all times,

848
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 3: and it was Gabe Vincent a lot of the time.

849
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 3: Just get in there and fire away, especially above the

850
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 3: break three. And Terry Rozier is really good at those

851
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 3: nearly forty percent above the break three, so yeah, he

852
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 3: could start. I thought he would be coming off the

853
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: bench all the Heat fans were mad at me yesterday.

854
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 3: I get it because they need an improvement at point guard,

855
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: and maybe he does replace gave Vincent, but Tyler Herroll

856
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 3: is definitely starting beside him. If he's starting, and that's

857
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 3: a smaller backwark, there's no doubt. And are they going

858
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: to be good enough defensively? Well, we'll see what Terry

859
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 3: can do. But I think even if he does come

860
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 3: off the bench that he can finish games. And Mitch

861
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 3: cup check he's working it in unprotected. It's protected in

862
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven, but then becomes unprotected in twenty twenty eight,

863
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 3: so he's just hoping that the Heat get bad after

864
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: that good year. So TBD, we'll see, but it is

865
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 3: an improvement. I guess they couldn't get a star star player.

866
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 3: That appears to be the case because they're just going

867
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: after it here two weeks before the trade deadline, especially

868
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 3: because their offense has been poop.

869
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the Heat's biggest problem was creating. I think

870
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: they're ranked twentieth in the league. They weren't really much better.

871
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: They may have been worse last year after that surprising

872
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: finals run, but they just struggle to score sort of

873
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: at the rim and in the mid range game. And

874
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: Rosier like the jumper's money this year he struggles from

875
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: corner threes, but your right task, Bove, the breaks been

876
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: really good, been quite lethal there. So makes sense to

877
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 1: add a guy like this for not a lot. Especially

878
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: I went through Lowry's numbers and like the stretch, the

879
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 1: cold stretch he was on recently, he just couldn't score.

880
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: So they get Terry Rozier to come in here. Whether

881
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: he starts, whether he finishes games, whatever it is, he's

882
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: going to get a chance here. And I'm sort of

883
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: excited to see him playing for Eric Spols So on

884
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: a team like that, they're actually playing for victories. Like

885
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: when you said four and a half years he'd been

886
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: in Charlotte, my holy crap, that's a long time down

887
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: there there in Charlotte on obviously a bad team or

888
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: a very average team at best. And from the Hornet

889
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: side of things, yeah you do this. I mean it's

890
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: it's going to be a fire sale here with this team, right, Like,

891
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: every everybody's going to be available. Kup Check basically said

892
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: that outside of LaMelo, outside of Brandon Miller, I think

893
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: you'll get anyone you can make it. I mean Gordon Hayward,

894
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: of course, get you a Gordon, maybe a PJ. Washington.

895
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: You know, they've got some bigs that might you know,

896
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: maybe Mark Williams is untouchable too. I'm not sure, but

897
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: a lot of guys I think you call it, Mitch kupcheck.

898
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: You've got picks, you got young prospects. You could probably

899
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: make a deal if you want one of their guys. Yeah.

900
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 3: I was excited to see Terry Roziero with the Boston

901
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: Celtics his first four years. He was there until he

902
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 3: was traded for Kemba Walker. I thought he was going

903
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 3: to be their guy. He probably thought that, but he

904
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: hasn't played a good team in for a good team

905
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 3: in a low right time.

906
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: This was weird news. The NBA suspended Cavaliers center Tristan

907
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: Thompson on Tuesday for twenty five games without pay for

908
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: violating the NBA and the NBA Players Association's anti drug program.

909
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: Thompson's suspension will begin tonight. He will be eligible to

910
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: return in theory in late March or mid March. Thompson

911
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: tested positive for ibutamoran and sarm LGD four oh three three,

912
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: According to the league. You know, these are base increase

913
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: the levels of HGH in the body, popular among bodybuilders.

914
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: Build a hormones. I guess that's what we saw in

915
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: Paris when he bumped Nick Klaxon.

916
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, little little steroid maybe. Anyway, these are

917
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: considered banned substances because they have shown potential in increasing

918
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: muscle mass, reducing recovery times, improving overall athletic performance, all

919
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: of which are considered unnatural competitive advantages. Any thoughts on this,

920
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: Tristan Thompson being you know, ding t your twenty five

921
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: games substantial amount, it's.

922
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 3: A long time.

923
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

924
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 3: I did a little research on the drugs and I

925
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: went back to the bump to check the bump. I

926
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 3: think he was drug tested after he bumped and Nick

927
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: Claxon in Paris. Okay, because he was using that chest

928
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 3: he was. He's always been a strong guy. But I

929
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 3: guess he's been building up the hormones. That's a shame.

930
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 3: I don't have anything to say about that.

931
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: Well, do you think Tristan Thompson is, by the way,

932
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: thirty one? Oh he's older than that. See see, okay,

933
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: you went the other way, Trey and I before you

934
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: got int here. We were like in our heads, we

935
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: were thinking he was like thirty six, thirty seven. You know,

936
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: he's only thirty three. He's a lot younger than I thought.

937
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: He came out after one year in common. I know

938
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: he's been in lives forever. Okay, sorry, I didn't mean to.

939
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 3: No, that's okay. I just wonder what happens with this

940
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 3: Cleveland Cavaliers team and their roster when Evan Mobley gets healthy,

941
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 3: because they've been so so good at spreading the ball

942
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: out in the three point shots. I just wonder if

943
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 3: Evan Mobley, now with Tristan Thompson oute, is basically gonna

944
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: be told come off the bench and be our backup

945
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: center to start games. You might finish games. But because

946
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 3: the guy who's replaced him, Dean Wade, is creating a

947
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 3: little bit more space out there. And I wonder if

948
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 3: this is just kind of a blessing in that they

949
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 3: don't have a backup center just because Evan Mobile doesn't

950
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 3: shoot the three. Although, oh and so he'll play a bunch,

951
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: that's clear, but they need a backup center and now

952
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 3: they don't have one, and that's what he was playing.

953
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 1: Tristan Thompson was playing. I think that might surprise people

954
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: that you know, like recently, he's actually been solid. I

955
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: know he's playing like fifteen to twenty minutes a game,

956
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: pretty solid, doing Tristan Thompson like things, bumping guys, you know, scoring,

957
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: you know a little bit. The percentages are good because

958
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: it's all around sort of the rim. You're right, they

959
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: dare I say they might miss him here.

960
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 2: Maybe he's better than Damian Jones.

961
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 3: I think, right that guy's not playing. I think it's yeah.

962
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: I think there's a chance they tell him Mobile.

963
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 2: He still took it four weeks away though.

964
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for now, Damian Jones may play.

965
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna start Mobly.

966
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: Maybe he'll come off the bench when he returns, but

967
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: the guys part of their future, they're going to definitely

968
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 2: start him.

969
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 3: He is at some point. I just wonder, yeah, I

970
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 3: just wonder how the offense goes. He could finish games anyways.

971
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: They have to figure out an offense with them Mobile,

972
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: Like is the three point shooting is still going to

973
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 3: happen because it helps out Donovan Minchell. Just stroll to

974
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 3: the rim when you've got Dean Wade, Max Strus, whether

975
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: it be Merrill or whoever. Yeah, standing out the floor.

976
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean to make it happen.

977
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: It's not. It's pretty reminiscent to obviously the Utah Jazz

978
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: with Mitchell and Gobert as the one key center, like

979
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: that's the Jared Allen role, and then spread it out

980
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: a little bit, let him operate. But it gets a

981
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: little more clogg when mobleu is in there because he

982
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: doesn't stretch the floor like that. But I'm with TK.

983
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a part of their future. He's a

984
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: good player, great defensive player too. He really needs to

985
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: add obviously a three point shot. If you can that,

986
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: you have to at least respect.

987
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: Let's say, and the Caves were kind of in strumo

988
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: mode when it was just Mobley healthy and Allen wasn't healthy,

989
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 2: and Mobley was the guy holding it down at center

990
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: because he's still a slight guy yea. And Jared Allen

991
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: is like a natural center. So long term, the Calves

992
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 2: need to figure out how Mobley and Allen actually fit together.

993
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: And it'll be interesting to see how they figure things

994
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: in the meantime because they've hit on something in the

995
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: spread pick and roll Chuck Three's era.

996
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, next piece of news here Lebron, James,

997
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, Juell Embiide highlight the forty one

998
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: player pool that USA Basketball will select from when finalizing

999
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: its twelve man roster for this Summer's Olympics in Paris.

1000
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: The organization announced this yesterday. I'm not going to read

1001
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: all the names there for you, We're showing them to

1002
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: you on YouTube. Shout out to the Score for this

1003
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: handy little graphic. All of these names to try and

1004
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: defeat Dylan Brooks. Wow, so sad. But what a list

1005
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,959
Speaker 1: stacked list here, And they.

1006
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: Got David Robinson back.

1007
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, that's Duncan my friend, Oh, Duncan Robinson.

1008
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: And actually that's Seth Curry, not Steph Curry. It is

1009
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: weird when you see names like this with the initial

1010
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: in the last daily. It caught me by surprise, But

1011
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 1: they had a lot of names to put on one graphic.

1012
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, TMSA coming off a disappointing fourth place finish

1013
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: at last year's FOEBA World Cup. According to Joe Varden

1014
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: and Chaum's six US stars are basically locks. So if

1015
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: you're looking at this list of forty one they say

1016
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: the six if they're healthy and still committed. You got Lebron,

1017
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: Katie Steph Embiid, Jason Tatum, and Devin Booker. Again, that's Jove,

1018
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: who's like all over the Team USA and Sew. I'm

1019
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: saying those six are probably locks, and then I guess

1020
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: the rest of the six are will be selected at

1021
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: a later date. But your thoughts, mister American on your

1022
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: forty one player pool, any any surprises or you know,

1023
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: missing names or whatever you got.

1024
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: I was a little surprised. No Draymond Green, if I'm

1025
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: being honest. You know, Steve Curse the coach, and he

1026
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: was there for the last gold medal. But obviously Draymond

1027
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: is not at his peak as a basketball player, and

1028
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: that's without the off court issues as well, which are

1029
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: actually on court issues sometimes. So I'm surprised by that.

1030
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: Happy to see Alex Caruso make the list. Trey Young,

1031
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: I thought was an interesting inclusion since he's had a

1032
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: little bit of drama and beef with Team USA over

1033
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: the years. But looking at this pool, it's seeming like

1034
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: another undefeated gold medal in the United States and the Olympics.

1035
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 3: Here, it's a heck of a list. When you boil

1036
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: it down, especially Joel Embiid claiming he wants to play

1037
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: for the US team. He hasn't done that before. He

1038
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: could have played for the French team as well, but

1039
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: he said he wants to play for the American team.

1040
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 3: And that's where my concern is. The biggs. That's that

1041
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 3: was a problem last year in the World Cup. But

1042
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: if you have Joel Embiid, well that changes things and

1043
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 3: then you and then you go down the list. These

1044
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: were all the debated names. Who's going to be the five?

1045
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: It's Anthony Davis is on there as well. Bam is

1046
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 3: on there as well. So yes, this looks like a

1047
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 3: quite established team and it includes the twelve players that

1048
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 3: were on the World Cup roster a were a few

1049
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 3: months ago. But how many make the team just a

1050
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 3: couple maybe. I think mckel bridges will be there.

1051
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: Oh, Anthony Edwards possibly possibly possibly. But Halliburton, yeah, Halliburton, yeah,

1052
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: good one. I think the most surprising name not on

1053
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: the list. I guess it's a long list, so it's

1054
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: just surprising that Tyrese Maxi isn't included. It's a bit

1055
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: of a weird one. This is like one of the

1056
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: up and coming guards American guards in the league, So

1057
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: that was a little bit surprising. But I mean there's

1058
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: no shortage of talent obviously, and Steph has never played

1059
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: in the Olympics. There is that whole part, So I mean,

1060
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: I actually hope we see that, right. You know, Lebron's

1061
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: been there, Kadie's been there. Those guys are staples. But

1062
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: no Curry ever in Olympics, which is a little weird.

1063
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: So hopefully he's on the team. Not a bad team

1064
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: you got to pick there. In addition, by the way,

1065
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: to announcing the playerpool, USA Basketball said they're going to

1066
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: host Team Canada in an exhibition game on July tenth

1067
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. When summer league, I can never keep

1068
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: track of this stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be close, yeah say, Mini camp is

1070
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 2: usually like two weeks after after it's too yeah yeah,

1071
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: stick around man.

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00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yes, might be at the sphere, hang out there.

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00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 3: It could be in the heart of it. It could

1074
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 3: be in the heart of It's July tenth, I think, so,

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00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 3: I think that would. Okay, that's what the calendar.

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00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sa Tray is right, it's usually post summer league.

1077
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: The team USA practices and scrimmages and stuff like that.

1078
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: But this one does feel earlier in the skin.

1079
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 3: It feels like it just runs right on the first

1080
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 3: week of Summer.

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Speaker 1: League and Rivals Week return last night. Guys. Yeah, and

1082
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: I know what you're wondering, what the hell is that?

1083
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: It's a dedicated week in January to classic and budding

1084
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: rivalries featuring eleven nationally televised games. So some of these

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00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: rivalries are pitting teams versus teams, but some are players

1086
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: versus players. Some are geographic based, like some of the

1087
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 1: games last night. You know, we have the Nicks beating

1088
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: the Nets, we had the Clippers beating the Lakers. But

1089
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: lots of games left. So let's count down the top

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00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: five NBA Rivals Week games left on the schedule. JD

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00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: Top top five, top five. I love this from the NBA. Hey,

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00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: we need another week. Let's go NBA Rivals Week, all right,

1093
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: let's try it. But we got some good games here

1094
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: this week. So at number five on the list, this

1095
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: is a player versus player rivalry. Thunder at Spurs tonight

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00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: nine thirty espn Okac's Chet Holmgren versus San Antonio's Victor

1097
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: wemen Yama Battle for a Rookie of the Year. If

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00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: you remember the first game, Mah fell a little flat right,

1099
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: Chad had nine points, seven boards, three to ten shooting.

1100
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: Wemby had eight points, fourteen boards four or fifteen shooting.

1101
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: Neither one of those guys had stand out performances. But

1102
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: this was a while ago. Now these guys have had

1103
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: half of an NBA season, uh to obviously acclimatize to

1104
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: the NBA a little bit more. I mean, these guys

1105
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: are putting up some monster lines here recently. Wemby's, you know,

1106
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: getting a little unleashed here finally from Pop. So I'm

1107
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 1: guessing around this time around, it's gonna be a much

1108
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: more entertaining game from our two stars. There, two big stars,

1109
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: I should say, in the Rookie of the Year race.

1110
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: I hope, so yeah, that's tonight.

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00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 3: It's gonna be nice.

1112
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: It's gonna be.

1113
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's right.

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00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 2: I just like saying, Man, the Spurs aren't very good,

1115
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: I know, and the Thunder are quite good. You have

1116
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: the problem for me. The thunder are much better here.

1117
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: But I am excited for what versus Chimbi Part two

1118
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 2: versus Champion.

1119
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: That's right, and thunderplayed last night.

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00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right, So exactly Jalen with an eye Williams tonight,

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00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 2: that's right.

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00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: Okay, number four on the list NBA Rivals Week Suns

1123
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: at Mavericks also tonight, ABC Baby. So you can trace

1124
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 1: this rivalry back to the twenty twenty two playoffs when

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00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: the Mavericks dismantled the top seeded Suns in the second

1126
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: round there in shocking fashion in a huge blowout victory.

1127
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: Every meeting though that's followed since then, there's been some

1128
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: tension in these games, right, including Christmas Day when Luca

1129
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 1: carried the MAVs to the victory fifty points, fifteen assists,

1130
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: four steals, and three blocks. That's what Luca put up

1131
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: on Christmas. Now that one had no Kyrie, that one

1132
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: had no Beal. I believe all five Marquee players are

1133
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 1: good to go tonight in this game. So that's exciting.

1134
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: And you know, I know there's some mutual respect too

1135
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: between Luca and Booker, but you know there's also some

1136
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: great on court hate.

1137
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

1138
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: So this is like a recent rivalry in the NBA,

1139
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: and it's smart for them.

1140
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 3: To include it, and it's on national TV, being that

1141
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 3: both teams most definitely. We're scheduled to not have a

1142
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 3: game that night before. They should be fresh.

1143
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: That's refresh. Okay, number three, I'm going over to the East.

1144
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: Give me Heat at Nicks. Yeah, give me Jeff Van Gundy,

1145
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 1: give me pat Riley Saturday guys at three pm Eastern

1146
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: on ABC. No football on Saturday this weekend. That means

1147
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of NBA games on ABC. But

1148
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: you know this is this is a good matchup because

1149
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: these two teams are good in the East. Obviously, they

1150
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: got some history dating way back. We've got Scary Terry

1151
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: joining Heat culture here. There's that. I imagine he'll be

1152
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: playing for them. Both teams fighting for the same space

1153
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: sort of in the Eastern Conference. You know they they

1154
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: want a top four berth and have home court advantage.

1155
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: Nicks won the first clash on November twenty fourth, ninety eight.

1156
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: Now I will say thirty eight of those points that

1157
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: they got in that game, they go, you know, a

1158
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: good game from a quickly good game from Barrett in

1159
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: that one. But Og is in there now, and anytime

1160
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: these t teams play, they play close games that last

1161
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: one fourth time in five meetings where the margin was

1162
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: two points, so they generally give us good games. So

1163
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: Heat Nicks Saturday on ABC.

1164
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 3: What a rivalry you gave me those numbers? Damn damn right,

1165
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 3: we're getting one on Saturday at three o'clock. This is

1166
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 3: when the afternoon games begin. Yeah, NFL get out of here.

1167
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm sticking with the Heat for the number two slot

1168
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: on NBA Rivals Week Thursday Night TNT. So after we

1169
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 1: learn of the all star starters, we've got Celtics at Heat. Okay,

1170
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: this one's a no brainer. These two teams have met

1171
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: in the East Finals three times in four years, and

1172
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: now again we got the scary Terry addition here. Maybe

1173
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: he's a go on Thursday night there play against his

1174
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 1: old team and the Celtics as part of the Miami Heat.

1175
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: But I had forgotten even last year that the Celtics

1176
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: were down three and then stormed back to give us

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00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: a Game seven, which they ultimately lost. But we see

1178
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: these two teams play each other a lot fun matchups

1179
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 1: across the board in terms of individual one on one battle.

1180
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: So Celtics Heat TK and you you're gonna be tuning

1181
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: in on that on Thursday night.

1182
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 2: I will certainly be tuning in and I hope Jimmy

1183
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: Butler plays. You know, even if he's in the not

1184
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 2: in the injury report, it's always a question mark with him,

1185
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: and he hasn't been playing incredibly well lately, so I

1186
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 2: think they're gonna need a big game from him because

1187
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 2: you know, Tatum and Brown are likely going to show

1188
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 2: up because they've been great all season long. I saw

1189
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 2: Heat or I saw Celtics fans. They were saying, we

1190
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: weren't worried when the Bucks traded for Damian Lillard, but

1191
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 2: when the Heat traded for Terry Rozier and put a

1192
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 2: beer in our hearts. Boy, see, hopefully Terry plays as well.

1193
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a little test here there on Thursday night,

1194
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: But the number one game for NBA Rivals week on

1195
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: my list, at least, it's seventy six or at Nuggets

1196
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: Baby Saturday, five thirty pm Eastern on ABC. So if

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00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 1: the last meeting between these two teams is any indication

1198
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: of what to expect for Round two, then this might

1199
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: be the best matchup I think of the week, because

1200
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: we got the two guys that win all the MVPs,

1201
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 1: you know, the last three at least in Yo Kitchen,

1202
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: EMBIID we could have one of those guys winning another

1203
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: one this year. Embiid got the better of Yokich the

1204
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: last meeting. He had forty one points tenn assists in

1205
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 1: the Philly win. Now Yokich had twenty five and nineteen.

1206
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: But the whole thing here is Embiid hasn't played in

1207
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: Denver in each of the last three years due to

1208
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: injuries a lot of the time. But right now, no

1209
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: reason for this guy to be sitting. Come Saturday at

1210
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: five point thirty in a nationally televised game and we

1211
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: get Embiid in Denver, taken on Yo Kich And hell,

1212
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: didn't Embiid say after the last game I'll see in

1213
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: two weeks I think you said he So this is

1214
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,720
Speaker 1: the number one. This is a player versus player player

1215
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: type of rivalry. But excited for this one. There's some

1216
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: good games here.

1217
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 3: I like this.

1218
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: Neither team on a back to back.

1219
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 2: Nuggets and Sixers, wait to.

1220
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: Go sketchers stuff. Yeah, so sketch Hopefully those two giants

1221
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: are playing. Okay, So there it is. There's my top five.

1222
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: Just to show a little love to NBA because nobody

1223
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: else knew what was going on. Let's wrap this up

1224
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: with tweet of.

1225
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 3: The night, tweet of the night, Wow.

1226
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Speaker 1: Between the night.

1227
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Speaker 2: You're gonna need your eyeballs for this one podcast listeners,

1228
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 2: so come check us out on YouTube. It's simply a

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00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 2: picture of Tyre's Halliburton at last night's Pacers game. A

1230
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 2: S I N I T A L on Twitter. Hilarious

1231
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 2: fit they say about Tyrese Halliburton and he's wearing a

1232
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 2: big puffy vest and a newsboy hat. Yeah. Also some

1233
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 2: humpty hump classes. Some of my favorite comments from this

1234
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 2: last night. If this had over three thousand quote tweets,

1235
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: I think uh extra extra read all about an ass fit.

1236
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 2: Jasmin Watkins said it's like he simultaneously operates a trolley

1237
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 2: and sells newspapers in the nineteen forties. Somebody just posted

1238
00:56:55,880 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 2: the cover of Frog and Toad and I like the

1239
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 2: one that said this is Dave Chappelle introducing the musical

1240
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: guest after a Chappelle Show episode.

1241
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: That guy loved a wild hat man. We've seen Tyres

1242
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: in this hat before him. Yeah, Oh yeah, he likes

1243
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: this hat. Yeah the Peaky Blinders. Well, what did you

1244
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: think of Halliburton's fit? Was this garbage fit? Is there

1245
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: something to it.

1246
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 2: It's not for me, not for me, but he does

1247
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 2: seem to have that style. He likes that old timey look,

1248
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: old timey tyrese.

1249
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 3: I love the hat. He's an inspiration. I'm going hat shopping.

1250
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 3: I may purchase that.

1251
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: Wow, I just need to. I'm trying to picture you

1252
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: in it, and I can see it.

1253
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 3: I just need a new hat. And there's something about it.

1254
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 3: It's sort of in between a ball cap and a

1255
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 3: huge cowboy hat or top of it. There's just a

1256
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 3: there's just a middle ground. I don't know. It is

1257
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 3: a weird hat. It has too much beak. I think

1258
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 3: it looks almost like, yeah, it's not it's not small enough.

1259
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 3: The beak is just too big.

1260
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 2: There was a tweet going a round, uh like maybe

1261
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: a week or so ago. Somebody just randomly tweeted, I'm

1262
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 2: going to design a hat that changes the world. Maybe

1263
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: it was that.

1264
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 3: I'm intrigued, Yeah, I have.

1265
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of, like, could we put together

1266
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: a fun top five of NBA guys to wear the

1267
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: Peaky Blinders hat? Because I know Jokic Uh shows up

1268
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: to games in a similar style. But that's all I

1269
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: can think of him. And then our friend Ken the

1270
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: other person I know, Samuel Jackson backwards.

1271
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: Usually and I feel like maybe maybe we could find

1272
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 2: one from Dwayne Wade, Like during the everbody dresses like

1273
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 2: a nerd era that like fake.

1274
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: Classes probably on his face. All right, let's go back there.

1275
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 2: Let's and mellow. Of course it wears weird hats, so he.

1276
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: Gotta yeah, he's gotta have a pick of him. Let's

1277
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: get yeah, let's crowdsource that. And we got some fun

1278
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: short content there for a guy dr Roll maybe to

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Speaker 1: That fit. Okay, that's it for us here today Again,

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Speaker 1: if you would like to send kids to a college

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Speaker 1: park Skyhawks game a G League game, there's a link

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Speaker 1: in the show notes. We really appreciate it if you do,

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Speaker 1: and you donate some money to a good cause like that. Again,

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Speaker 1: this is a really fun experience for kids that can't

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Speaker 1: and it's a really fun environment. So thanks everybody that

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Speaker 1: back here tomorrow Thursday, breaking down tonight's games and the

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Speaker 1: NBA news. We'll see you then till then. Clipper Bros,

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Speaker 1: you heard it here first.

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Speaker 2: Have a great time, turn up, love you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and remember if you're watching this

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Speaker 3: on Wednesday, A great game tonight. Cavaliers and the Bucks.

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Speaker 3: They just lost to the cas by fourteen points. The

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Speaker 1: It might be a little contract. First, sounds like it's

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Speaker 1: NBA Rivals Week live every week. Like it's NBA Rivals Week, guys. Basically,

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