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Speaker 1: Worrying. Today's episode contains no spoilers, but we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: talking about news, including news, the brand new Fantastic four trailer,

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Speaker 1: and more. Hello. My name is Jason Cancepsio and I'm

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Speaker 1: Wedsday Night and welcome back to x Revision of the

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Speaker 1: podcast where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comments,

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Speaker 1: and pop culture comedy from my our podcast where we're

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Speaker 1: bringing you three episodes a week every Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday

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Speaker 1: and Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Listening to this on Saturday. In today's previously on episode,

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Speaker 2: we are catching up on the biggest geek news of

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Speaker 2: the week, including another Jurassic Park movie.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm excited about it.

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Speaker 2: When will we stop messing with DNA and big scary reptiles?

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Speaker 3: Never?

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Speaker 2: I hope the answer is never. And here is an

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Speaker 2: interesting one that we have been talking about in our

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Speaker 2: group chat. How are Trump's proposed tariffs gonna impact where

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Speaker 2: you buy your weekly comic books from?

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Speaker 3: Because, believe me, it might impact it. So we're going

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Speaker 3: to talk about that too.

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Speaker 1: But first, first step in news, the Fantastic four First

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Speaker 1: Steps trailer has been at least the initial trailer. There

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Speaker 1: is very little action in it. But we get a

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Speaker 1: great look of our first family of Marvel in their

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Speaker 1: York City. We get it. Yeah, we get a We

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Speaker 1: get a wonderful scene of Eben Moss Backrock as the

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Speaker 1: Thing tasting some soup. We get We get Sad, Ben

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Speaker 2: A trench coat, which is an important of all Ben

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Speaker 2: Grimm law. Also we get seasoups Zoo Storm's powers here, which.

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Speaker 1: Kind of look like I like the way they visualize it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of a refraction of the way that

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Speaker 2: she bounces light. It looks very Rainbowie looks very cool.

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Speaker 2: So we see her powers, we see Johnny's powers, We

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Speaker 3: He still looks good.

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Speaker 2: And we get obviously Ben as the Thing, the only

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Speaker 3: I read Richard's.

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Speaker 1: Currently probably working on that. Yes, currently in the animation.

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Speaker 2: It feels like there's two ways that that could go.

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Speaker 2: Still perfecting it understandable. Stretchy powers are very very hard

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Speaker 2: the best version we've had so far, but that was

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Speaker 2: very comedic. I am also interested to know if Read

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Speaker 2: the vibes. We get a lot of Fantastic Four law here.

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Speaker 2: We see the Fantastic Car, we see the Marvel One,

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Speaker 2: the ship that they stole to go up to space.

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Speaker 1: In the first time, we see Galactus, the Shadow of Galactus.

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Speaker 3: Shadow of Galactus. Love to see him. He is no

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Speaker 3: longer a smoke cloud Jason. We now have a.

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Speaker 4: Real Galacti classic helmet, a real helmet. Yeah, he's looking

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Speaker 4: like he's gonna eat a planet. I'm excited for it. Okay,

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Speaker 4: here is my biggest takeaway from this trailer.

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Speaker 3: Is any of this real.

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Speaker 2: Or are the Fantastic Four stuck in a phantom zone

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Speaker 3: So I'm very interested if it's real.

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Speaker 1: I think it's real, but I think they're stuck in

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Speaker 2: All that makes sense, and that's why they're kind of

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Speaker 1: We were very normal, and it's very and we're here

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Speaker 1: anywhere else. Who is John Malkovich?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I am of the mindset that he probably

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Speaker 2: That's what we can all dream of, Yeah, is that

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Speaker 3: So we're going into that kind of Soviet.

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Speaker 2: Cold war time again originally from Fantastic Four thirteen in

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Speaker 3: He's somebody who is trying to put a man on the.

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Speaker 2: I still think a future read, a read from Earth

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Speaker 2: But that is the news story, Like everybody is wondering

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Speaker 2: Love what we've seen of the cast so far. Fun

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Speaker 2: I feel like so much is riding on this movie.

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Speaker 1: Up next the poster. Oh, it's also been released, or

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Speaker 2: There's a face that's replicated, and there is a hand

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Speaker 1: But let me say this. If you hold a thing,

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Speaker 2: Now. Look, I will say I do agree with the

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Speaker 2: didn't you just pay him to paint these instead of

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Speaker 2: I agree, And you know what, there are some you know,

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Speaker 2: But it's a cool campaign idea. Nice to see how

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Speaker 2: if they say it's not AI, then what else can

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Speaker 2: was rushed because as always, you're probably making these things

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Speaker 3: You know, people were kind of saying, like, these look

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Speaker 2: Where's Anderson? What if Wes Anderson made this trailer? So

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Speaker 3: This man's face? Is this AI? It looks bad?

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Speaker 2: And James Gunn came out as he so often does

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Speaker 1: Guys, it's all real, real dinosaurs.

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Speaker 1: Jurassic World rebirth trailer. You know, listen, we've we were

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Speaker 1: In the real world, if this was happening, wouldn't people

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Speaker 1: They're printed in Canada.

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Speaker 1: And so that means that Trump's proposed tariffs on Canada

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Speaker 1: On next week's episode of Extra Vision, we're diving into

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