WEBVTT - High Horse

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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down with Jane Kramer, an Imheart Radio podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi guys, Hi, hey youy you you're remote live from

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<v Speaker 2>the field, Jana Kramer.

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<v Speaker 3>We miss you on.

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<v Speaker 2>The count last time, remote, ladies. Yes, it's a I'm

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<v Speaker 2>ready to come home.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this one feels like a long one.

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<v Speaker 3>This one has been a long one.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think you know what's hardcat is because I

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<v Speaker 2>think back, so the one in January was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just a ten day shoot, right, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the other one was like a week you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't really had the one where I lead the film.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, since you haven't had the three week or in

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<v Speaker 1>a while in a while, but.

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<v Speaker 2>This was really like three and a half, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>I had to come up to go do the Keenlin

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<v Speaker 2>come Back. So it's it's been more, it's been longer,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's I feel like it should not have been

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<v Speaker 2>a sixteen days shoot, like they should have maybe made

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<v Speaker 2>it a little bit longer, given you know, some of

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<v Speaker 2>the circumstances and stuff and the the things out of

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<v Speaker 2>control like horses. Right, so the horse isn't going to

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<v Speaker 2>hit its mark the first time quite possibly any of

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<v Speaker 2>the times, you know, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that would be so frustrating.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think what was like the craziest piece of

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<v Speaker 2>it is like these aren't really picture horses. These are

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<v Speaker 2>race horses that have raced in races, like legitimate races.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, you want me to get on that

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<v Speaker 3>thing and and gallup like that?

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<v Speaker 1>To do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Catherine?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, wait tell us you wouldn't do that when we

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<v Speaker 1>were because.

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<v Speaker 2>I was pregnant, uh with Roman on the on the

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<v Speaker 2>horse movie The Last Horse.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, no, no, that one I would met

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<v Speaker 1>when we were at the your wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I wouldn't let go of us. Those horses I

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<v Speaker 2>would love to gallop on. Oh I thought you couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to get on them. Oh no, because they were neutered,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was like, what if I fall off and

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<v Speaker 2>I break my ankle?

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<v Speaker 1>That's where you was okay anyway, but you did ride

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<v Speaker 1>the horse.

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<v Speaker 2>I did, but like they held onto it, which I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, why are they helding onto these walking horses?

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<v Speaker 3>But you know that's fine walking horse.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's what it was. You were the one that

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<v Speaker 1>was sweet Jack. He was like the low rider.

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<v Speaker 3>He was the shrimp horse, and I was like that

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<v Speaker 3>guy's my guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Okay, So anyway, so you've been on horses,

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<v Speaker 1>galloping on racing horses.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was one of those things where it's like

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, all right, get up on the horse, no goat.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I've I've been on this horse for ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't got like this is and this isn't like

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<v Speaker 2>a movie horse that is trained to just be chill.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean even so it's a horse, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like and uh it, let's just say I have an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing horse double She's wonderful. She's a real life jockey

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<v Speaker 2>and she was great because I think they also realized

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<v Speaker 2>that this was a very Again, these are not picture horses.

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<v Speaker 2>These are race horses, and I didn't have the time

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<v Speaker 2>to actually train on this English saddle. And like, I

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<v Speaker 2>know Western quite well, and I also know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a horse that is neutered and a lot chiller than

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<v Speaker 2>these race horses.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, that's terrifying. Jam of the jockey.

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<v Speaker 2>So we did a lot of walking scenes and then

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<v Speaker 2>it was basically oh and then we do this one

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<v Speaker 2>where it's it's called like a Poorman's or something where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on a truck. So to get the feel of

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<v Speaker 2>like the hair blowing. And so I'm on the back

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<v Speaker 2>of a truck and I'm sitting on this apple box,

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<v Speaker 2>which is like a that's what we call them, said,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's actually what it's called, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a box. And I'm sitting out in the

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<v Speaker 2>back and Haley's like, all right, now ride and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>in the back of a car's lean forward. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>this looks like a really bad porn video, like the

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<v Speaker 2>back of a thick.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never gonna not be able to think about that now.

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<v Speaker 1>And I watch this movie, They're like, ride it.

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<v Speaker 3>What scene is?

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<v Speaker 2>So?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that is?

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<v Speaker 2>That is a movie magic, but it's which interesting is

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<v Speaker 2>They were also saying, how that is how Toby maguire filmed. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>he was on a barrel for what movie was that?

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<v Speaker 2>The horse was Seabiscuit. Oh, same thing he was. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a barrel. And then you know they have the

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<v Speaker 2>race horses or the actual body doubles do right, the

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<v Speaker 2>full one that seems safer. And here's the thing too,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was I was telling Haley this because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all about being a team player and getting the

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<v Speaker 2>shot and doing it. But there was a point where

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<v Speaker 2>it is everyone is rushing and we are losing daylight,

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<v Speaker 2>and we needed to get this scene because we were

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<v Speaker 2>we were getting off of this farm and the horses

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<v Speaker 2>are getting spooked because everyone's like, all right, come on.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, you can't yell around horses. You cannot have

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<v Speaker 2>that that kind of energy because they sense. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>they're you know, equine therapy for a reason, because they're

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<v Speaker 2>very they help calm you down. And and these horses

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<v Speaker 2>are spooked and they're like hard, get on, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm freaking, this is, this is and then you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>let them. You're not letting go of this horse, like

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<v Speaker 2>because even Gina was like, this is the horse is

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<v Speaker 2>spooked and it might shot out, and I was like

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<v Speaker 2>if if it shots out, I'm I'm breaking my back

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm jumping off these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, okay, but yeah, we got we got the ride.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we got the we got the shots, and

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<v Speaker 2>now we're on the nighttime scenes and so yeah, two

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<v Speaker 2>more days and then I'm home.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I miss you. I miss you. Guys. So excited

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<v Speaker 3>anything going on, y'all's world, world world.

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<v Speaker 1>Not really, It's like end of school, just trying to every.

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<v Speaker 3>Day is a theme.

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<v Speaker 2>Every day's a special snack, every day, hot day for Jason. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we had that yesterday silly hat day, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what's silly?

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<v Speaker 3>Let me gime in.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't really do those so well. I mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>the school does, but my kids just are never really interested. Thankfully.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Love wasn't into it. I'm like, thank god. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're sure you don't want a silly hat? I'm willing

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<v Speaker 2>to participate. She's like, Mom, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, when they've hit that, it's like nice, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to worry about it so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Meanwhile, Legend's like it's camping day and I was like, okay, Bunny, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, we have a flash light and blanket day tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I remember those.

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<v Speaker 3>Should we have a flashlight? But Mom's of Amazon.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, okay, Well gosh, guys, I mean the updates,

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't have any. Well, mine might be an update,

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<v Speaker 2>plus wine about it, so I'm holding it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I'm like, isn't updates become what it sticks

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<v Speaker 1>in our mind because we want to whine about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, for those that really want to know, I still

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<v Speaker 2>have not started my period. I am on like day,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, eighteen whatever I can, let me, let

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<v Speaker 2>me go to my flow app right now. So flow

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<v Speaker 2>says what does what does flow say? And it goes

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<v Speaker 2>another pregnancy incoming? No, I'm seventeen days late.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>So are we?

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<v Speaker 2>I texted Nate and I said, hey, hey, buddy, so

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<v Speaker 2>should I be concerned?

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<v Speaker 3>Am I in full on menopause? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Someone did text me that the poll ups are could

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<v Speaker 2>be an issue and you've had like fibroid stuff before.

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<v Speaker 3>Are we nervous about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? What he had said, and it sounds very technical

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<v Speaker 2>and very it always does, you know. I said, hey, buddy,

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<v Speaker 2>I took a pregnancy test on the podcast It's negative

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<v Speaker 2>live And he basically said that sometimes with testosterone, because

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<v Speaker 2>I take testosterone, it can stop your period. And he goes,

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<v Speaker 2>and then so I texted him yesterday. I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>still you know, no period? Kind of freeing out a bit,

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<v Speaker 2>have some stomach cramps and he said, I said, should

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<v Speaker 2>I take my testosterone? Because I'm also getting tired from

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<v Speaker 2>not doing the testosterone, And so he's like, do the testosterone.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, but when you get back, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get you some progesterone. And progesterone and estradal is what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to use to kickstart your period again. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it's so to me, I'm like, but why

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it coming? And is this you know right? It

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<v Speaker 2>just kickstart me feels like the equivalent of being on

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<v Speaker 2>a racehorse without guidance. Yeah, I'm not trying to do

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<v Speaker 2>for this whole moment, I'm just like, I know and if.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, could it just be perimenopausal stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe?

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<v Speaker 2>Like maybe, because I mean, like, why did I have

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<v Speaker 2>it for twelve days the last time? I've never had

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<v Speaker 2>a period that long. But then I start to, you

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<v Speaker 2>know me, kat I start to go something else really wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>like is there something?

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm forty one.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to remember that this is this is it

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<v Speaker 2>now and women start to have your regular periods.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of starts to get a regular for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people. So to me, that would be besides

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<v Speaker 1>my first thought of you being pregnant would be probably

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<v Speaker 1>just some peri minimals been a pause of stuff. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>kind of starts doing that around this time, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it you know, takes a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, your sleep schedules off too. It's like your body

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't know what is night and day. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many things that can go into this.

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<v Speaker 1>The testosterone would make sense so too, because you had

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<v Speaker 1>just started taking it again. Yeah I did, so that

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<v Speaker 1>would definitely make sense.

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<v Speaker 3>So tbd.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's that's my only thing, and I'm ready

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<v Speaker 2>to come home. So let's jump into wine about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Go girl. Okay, I have a theory and I just

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<v Speaker 2>need to know if it's true or not. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>nervous that I'm doomed in my marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>Shall me start there? No?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, so I can't have You're nervous you're doomed in

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<v Speaker 2>your marriage? I mean only and then they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>grab that for sure. I think that I didn't mean it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, can there be So I would say, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>an outgoing person, but I recharge so much on my own.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's like introverted, right, And so we all know

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm not a huge fan of like hosting people like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>certain people I am, some certain people I'm not. But

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't wake up in the morning and go oh,

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<v Speaker 2>who can we have over tonight? You've never once invited

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<v Speaker 2>us over, so we'll just start there. I used to

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<v Speaker 2>when it was Mike times. I actually thought about this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is part of my discussion.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never I never went to your house with m

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<v Speaker 3>I k E.

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<v Speaker 1>We're spelling though, make a mouse. Sorry, keep going.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was like, I haven't like once people are like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, you know, like it's easier to do it

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<v Speaker 2>here whatever. You were always the more scheduled mom, so

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<v Speaker 2>for sure, so I would always just like we would

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<v Speaker 2>be that's true, and I'm always like I like to

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<v Speaker 2>be I like to entertain a host.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you like to do it at your house.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's my question and not a whine about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but kind of it's like, so I don't wake up

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning and go I cannot wait to have

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<v Speaker 2>people over tonight. I don't dream. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>know that it just makes me sound so bitchy. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not closed off at all. And when I have had

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<v Speaker 2>people over, I like love it and it's great and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I'm like ready for them to go home.

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<v Speaker 2>But I married someone that lives on a bus with

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<v Speaker 2>twelve dudes. So he's never alone. When he's in a

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<v Speaker 2>truck by himself, he is taking conference calls like he's

0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.319
<v Speaker 2>silence is not something that's like comforting to him. And

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<v Speaker 2>so he's home for five days, which is unheard of.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the five days before we see him

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<v Speaker 2>December sixteenth, essentially, because it's like summer is crazy, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and we get five sleeps with him, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think she had my parents come. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, and I want I also want to recognize

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<v Speaker 2>that he doesn't get to see his people often either,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like of course he misses them. He's seen

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<v Speaker 2>them a little bit more than I have because he's

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<v Speaker 2>done shows in Indiana whatever. And so I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>be I really wish we had like footage of this,

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<v Speaker 2>because he keeps going, you know, should we have them?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, if that is what you want to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just keep saying sentences like that, so therapeutic

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<v Speaker 2>of you, well, because I'm like, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be dishonest and say, oh, I'd love to have them here,

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<v Speaker 2>because that doesn't excite me for the you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight of the five days that we get you

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want them here for forty eight hours. So

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<v Speaker 2>then I had this moment where I'm like, our couples

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<v Speaker 2>that both don't love that doomed because there's always push

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<v Speaker 2>pull and is there one like are you like, I

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<v Speaker 2>know you love to have people of a Kramer, but

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<v Speaker 2>does Alan.

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<v Speaker 3>Or is he just good?

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<v Speaker 2>If yeah, he does like I mean he does like him,

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<v Speaker 2>but I and I will say this like if I'm honest,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm actually bummed about the state of and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not like, please don't take any of this book to

0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:54.960
<v Speaker 2>both of y'all. Personally, I understand lives are like no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand lives are super crazy. I get sad when

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<v Speaker 2>I see like my hometown, my hometown girlfriends and their hut.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone hangs out a lot together and they've got and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I don't really like, yeah, I see you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm like, and I'm like, hey, can we do

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<v Speaker 2>this together?

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<v Speaker 3>Can we do that?

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<v Speaker 2>And then you'll vite you guys over for and again

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<v Speaker 2>I know you guys, Catherine, You've got ages of all

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<v Speaker 2>different types. You know, Kristen, you've got a husband that

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<v Speaker 2>you don't really see a lot. And so the rejection

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<v Speaker 2>of like hanging out has been high, and it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like I want and I would love to go elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand too, Like I was in a phase where

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<v Speaker 2>my own comfort of wanting to be in my house,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm like, I would love to go to someone

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<v Speaker 2>else's house and be invited to someone else or have

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<v Speaker 2>them want us to all hang out because I miss

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<v Speaker 2>the like friendship of hanging out with couples and kids

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't have that and it feels sad to me.

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<v Speaker 3>So is it our season though? Because that was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of So this is where I've been.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually glad I brought this up because this is

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<v Speaker 2>where I've been for like probably the last like I

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<v Speaker 2>would say the last month or so.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember I text you, I was like, I've been in

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<v Speaker 3>a weird place anyways. Well yeah, because the East.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, you know, and I get it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I but yes, but I just want to be

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<v Speaker 2>in to get him home. I know, I know, I know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, And I think that's part of it too,

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<v Speaker 2>is like I'm protective of our time with him because

0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.960
<v Speaker 2>our kids are so sensitive to not seeing him. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but he like loves it, Like if I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Russell's are coming over. He'd be like, oh,

0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.960
<v Speaker 2>this is great, what is coming over great? Like he

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<v Speaker 2>wants everybody all the time. Yeah, I think Also, so

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<v Speaker 2>this is where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it part of it?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm being honest. I'm making excuses for myself

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<v Speaker 2>because I had to check myself. Part of my Part

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<v Speaker 2>of it is that we have these babies that like

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<v Speaker 2>if I have people over and we've done this, We've

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<v Speaker 2>had like friends of the kids came over their parents

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<v Speaker 2>and like, I'm just chasing a baby until like seven thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I have to dip out for like thirty

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<v Speaker 2>to forty five minutes and do bath time and bedtime.

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<v Speaker 2>And then by the time I come back down, I've

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<v Speaker 2>missed like an hour of conversation and I'm plugging back in.

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<v Speaker 2>But now it's like eight eight thirty, I'm tired, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I can't So is it our ages maybe of

0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:09.440
<v Speaker 2>just the kids, right, because also like I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>her up past seven thirty if I can help it

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<v Speaker 2>for my own sanity, But I'm not afraid to like

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<v Speaker 2>bust the schedule sometimes if it's helpful and we're out

0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.400
<v Speaker 2>and we're hanging out with people, but like, man, I

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<v Speaker 2>just feel like I'm like, where is it that I'm impossible?

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's where I've been because it's everything is so

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<v Speaker 2>much effort right now that if I'm extra hosting, which

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<v Speaker 2>y'all honestly, you guys could come to my house and

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't feel like I have to clean or do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, you're just so cozy. I would be

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<v Speaker 2>so happy to have you. And I really mean that,

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<v Speaker 2>like it doesn't stress me out. But I think we

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<v Speaker 2>know that you want your time with Preston, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, like and if I'm by myself, I'm like, let's

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<v Speaker 2>just get these kids in bed so I can Yeah, Catherine,

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<v Speaker 2>I know you gotta.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I have a lot of things to say on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've gone through two phases of it. I

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<v Speaker 1>went through that phase when the kids were younger, Like

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<v Speaker 1>my babies were on a schedule. They were screaming if

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't in bed at that time, So it was

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<v Speaker 1>not worth it. It was not being at someone It

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<v Speaker 1>was not worth being at someone else's house with my

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<v Speaker 1>kids screaming, trying to make a conversation at.

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<v Speaker 2>Show thirty because we don't even get quality conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I went through that phase where we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do a whole lot because of that, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot better, I think through I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a homebody. Everyone knows that. Like I'm a homebody. I

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<v Speaker 1>could be at home every night of my life and

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<v Speaker 1>be a happy person like I'm just a homebody. But

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely got a lot better and really started to

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy doing all these things as the kids kind of

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<v Speaker 1>got to an older age and they could, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>have pool parties and do all that with the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>But now I'm at a phase of my life where

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<v Speaker 1>my sixteen year old is doing whatever. My thirteen year

0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.720
<v Speaker 1>old doesn't want to go. Let's just be real, because

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<v Speaker 1>there's no one for her to hang out with mostly, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, or she becomes like a babysitter, and that's not

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<v Speaker 2>what she wants to do right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd rather be with her friends. But then the problem

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<v Speaker 1>is is then she needs a ride everywhere because she

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<v Speaker 1>never has a ride anywhere because her friends don't take

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<v Speaker 1>her anywhere. And so now I'm back in a phase

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<v Speaker 1>where it just seems so impossible to do again, but

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<v Speaker 1>this time it does make me sad, like I do

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<v Speaker 1>feel more sad about it at the same time, like

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<v Speaker 1>I wish it was different. Well, not that I wish

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<v Speaker 1>that it was different. I love this phase, but also

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<v Speaker 1>I do wish there was more time to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. And then I've realized too, like us

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<v Speaker 1>coming over as a family just right now will mean

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<v Speaker 1>that my teenagers aren't there, and that's okay. My teenagers

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to come, or they can come every now

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<v Speaker 1>and then. But like we, I think the last thing

0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.719
<v Speaker 1>we did at your house, you know, I think Kayden

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<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend ended up just coming over there, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just like, you know what, we're all

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<v Speaker 1>going to go tonight. I know you want to see her.

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<v Speaker 1>If she would like to, then she can come over here,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So I think there's ways to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that we all need to be more

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<v Speaker 1>intentional with it. Now. Look, I'm probably not inviting all

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<v Speaker 1>to my house. I don't like to host.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never also been over there either. Besides the bird

0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:11.160
<v Speaker 3>you have.

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<v Speaker 1>You have been over there.

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<v Speaker 3>So when if we've ever done a date night over there,

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<v Speaker 3>that hasn't been.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't do we haven't done like a date well,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but.

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<v Speaker 3>We definitely say and like, yeah, you know what I mean, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like to host. Yeah, And a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>that did definitely start with you like to have it

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<v Speaker 1>at your house. I do, sure love Yeah, yeah you do.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know if it's because I was just

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to just not have to drive anywhere, like there's

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<v Speaker 2>a pet, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, and that's where everyone's so different. Like even

0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:44.200
<v Speaker 1>though I'm a homebody, I think it's like if I'm home,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be like home by myself. But if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going, like fine, I'll drive, that's great, like let's go,

0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.679
<v Speaker 1>and like I'm out and I'm you know, I'm in

0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:55.880
<v Speaker 1>that mindset. If I'm at home, I'm not. But also

0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I stress about cleaning to make it perfect for anyone,

0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:01.680
<v Speaker 1>the closest of people. Well, it does not matter. I'll

0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.320
<v Speaker 1>stress about doing that. I'll stress about is it you

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<v Speaker 1>know my house is falling apart, I need to get

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<v Speaker 1>a new couch. I needed to, you know, like whatever

0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:11.399
<v Speaker 1>it is. That kind of stuff will flood my brain

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<v Speaker 1>to where I'm just like I want to cancel.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is the hometown feeling that I've been missing,

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<v Speaker 2>which is like come in the mess.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like I see my girlfriends all the time together

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, yeah, doing pool parties, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a piece of me that was like, God,

0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:28.280
<v Speaker 2>I want to move. This is a thing to say

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<v Speaker 2>because it's not a buggets kuse. I was like, I

0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:32.360
<v Speaker 2>want to move back to Michigan to have that like

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<v Speaker 2>like where everyone's hanging out. And I'm like, but then

0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.359
<v Speaker 2>I thought to myself if I moved there, would it

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<v Speaker 2>actually would that actually happen? I don't know, you know,

0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:41.400
<v Speaker 2>in seasons, But I was like, I wish we could

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<v Speaker 2>find some kind of because we just don't have.

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<v Speaker 3>That yeah bums.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean and I know for me too, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>not an insecurity, but I'm like, I don't have a

0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:54.760
<v Speaker 1>pool at my house and I don't have anything fun

0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.520
<v Speaker 1>at my house. I'm like, I mean we can play games,

0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:00.080
<v Speaker 1>like come over and play games, you know, and and

0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I should do more of that probably, but like, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's where we kind of got in it

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<v Speaker 1>with you too, because it was like, oh, we'll just

0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:08.400
<v Speaker 1>go to Jani's house. She's got the pool, she's got

0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the fun stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But I love it too, though, to have like the

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<v Speaker 3>place that I go to, and I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think for us for a good solution to all of

0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:19.720
<v Speaker 4>this kid's party in two weeks, right.

0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:24.879
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's yeah, no, But seriously, it's recognizing that, like, Okay,

0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I am a homebody. I don't love to host. I

0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:29.359
<v Speaker 1>would love. It's not that I don't want you in

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<v Speaker 1>my home. It's not that like that's fine, but like

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<v Speaker 1>I would rather go to your house. If I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>being completely honest, I would rather go to Cramer's. I mean,

0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I've never been to your home at all, but that's okay,

0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:41.520
<v Speaker 1>weird haven't been to mine?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because how she was posed to me by a

0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:48.120
<v Speaker 2>mutual friend and they're like, oh, you know because Nick

0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:51.439
<v Speaker 2>and Kat's house is so cute or something, and I

0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:51.720
<v Speaker 2>was like.

0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Who who was that that's been to my house?

0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that funny that people are listening probably will go

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<v Speaker 2>what I know?

0:20:58.800 --> 0:20:59.840
<v Speaker 1>And that funny? It's why?

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<v Speaker 2>But then, and that's what's crazy, because we've also been

0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.520
<v Speaker 2>to like a million cities together and we have you know.

0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:09.320
<v Speaker 1>There's another aspect of this to where this doesn't really

0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:10.680
<v Speaker 1>have to do with you, but it kind of does.

0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.080
<v Speaker 1>When we were all doing cards. We were all over

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<v Speaker 1>the world, and at the beginning, I offered my house

0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:19.320
<v Speaker 1>several times, but I was the furthest away and no

0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:20.359
<v Speaker 1>one took me up on it.

0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:22.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, and at home, everyone was.

0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, well, maybe we'll go to Jana's because it's

0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:26.760
<v Speaker 1>so Then I was like, totally, it makes sense, it's closer.

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<v Speaker 1>So I never offered again.

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<v Speaker 2>Well here is not like for sure, Yeah, like logistically

0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:34.639
<v Speaker 2>we're not as close as like the home people like

0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:37.000
<v Speaker 2>at home, everyone lives within ten minutes of each other,

0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm a solid thirty.

0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:40.919
<v Speaker 1>Right, and that's what people have to understand. We're not

0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:42.840
<v Speaker 1>me and you were definitely not close to each other.

0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:46.720
<v Speaker 2>Jana is because I see her backyard.

0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Exactly if she ever moves.

0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:51.800
<v Speaker 2>You know. It's like right when I came up, do

0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:53.680
<v Speaker 2>I got to find new friends that have no you know.

0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:56.760
<v Speaker 4>We're going to have a solution because because I need you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah no, no, no, I like you friends replacing you. But

0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:00.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm yeah, yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't cave up on me, is what I'm saying. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>live up.

0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:04.840
<v Speaker 2>So that's where I got with this, because even Pamela

0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:06.800
<v Speaker 2>and I like had this exchange where she was like,

0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:09.520
<v Speaker 2>I just feel like I haven't seen you, and she

0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:10.919
<v Speaker 2>was going to be in an event that I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't end up going the same Yeah, and.

0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:18.760
<v Speaker 2>The book I oh you said what she did the

0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:19.359
<v Speaker 2>cookbook one?

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<v Speaker 3>And I said the cook.

0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh no, I just got uncomfortable fast.

0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so she.

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<v Speaker 2>Did, I do not get invited to the other one.

0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:32.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the other one is, so we'll

0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:33.080
<v Speaker 2>go No.

0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:35.960
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't either, so us three were excluded.

0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:38.160
<v Speaker 1>We'll go back to that off okay, okay, yeah.

0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:39.840
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, you know, hey, I was like,

0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:41.440
<v Speaker 2>are you going to be there? I will be excited

0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:43.119
<v Speaker 2>because I just also was like, who's going to be there?

0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who's invited. That's always and I'm kind

0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:47.640
<v Speaker 2>of like outskirt invited.

0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:50.240
<v Speaker 1>So I did know that she invited our whole group though,

0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:52.120
<v Speaker 1>said something to me.

0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:55.080
<v Speaker 3>Which one cook the cookok Kara Clark.

0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, she told me she really wanted our group blah

0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:01.600
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah blah, and then not everyone good her book.

0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:04.640
<v Speaker 2>But yes, So then Pamelin was like, I just kind

0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 2>of like miss you. She was, well, she didn't say

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:07.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of, She's like I miss you. I feel like

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:10.000
<v Speaker 2>I've kind of like been like tucked away and I've

0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:11.560
<v Speaker 2>been going after my goals. And I was like, and

0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:13.240
<v Speaker 2>so I just wrote, I sent her a voice note

0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:14.639
<v Speaker 2>back and I said, I just want you to know

0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:16.679
<v Speaker 2>I like I can speak for me at least, like

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 2>I feel the same way. We're all grinding, we're all hustling.

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 2>We're all friends that are entrepreneurs, which is like we're

0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:28.080
<v Speaker 2>all building businesses and trying to take shows and movies

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:32.479
<v Speaker 2>and podcasts and like just trying to freaking build something

0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:36.000
<v Speaker 2>for our families. And like, I love one thing I

0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:38.639
<v Speaker 2>can say the good of this, because I started to

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:40.520
<v Speaker 2>get sad too. I was like I just miss like

0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:44.280
<v Speaker 2>hanging out and how easy it is. And after Scotland especially,

0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:47.720
<v Speaker 2>like we all just like, oh we're so cozy and

0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:49.480
<v Speaker 2>we got to live together, and I was like, this

0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:52.159
<v Speaker 2>is really fun, Like we should Melrose place this lifestyle

0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:55.160
<v Speaker 2>and like, let's all do this. You know. I wish

0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:57.239
<v Speaker 2>that interest rates weren't so high because I would think

0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:00.399
<v Speaker 2>about moving closer. But like I told Pam, I was like,

0:24:00.520 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 2>I the one thing that I love about this is

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like we're less friends because I'm not

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:08.159
<v Speaker 2>seeing you, you know, and like hugging your neck, I

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:10.640
<v Speaker 2>feel like voice memoing kind of makes me feel connected.

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:13.719
<v Speaker 1>But like, well, I have to remember for my I

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:17.400
<v Speaker 1>have to remind myself that, especially Jana, I think about

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:19.680
<v Speaker 1>this a lot actually, that that is one of your

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:23.520
<v Speaker 1>love languages. Like I know that. I know that when

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't come over or whatever that is, it is

0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:28.480
<v Speaker 1>hard on you and it's hurtful. And I try to

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 1>remember that and then I miss it too, Like I

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:33.200
<v Speaker 1>absolutely miss it too, you guys.

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm only crying because I'm really tired, so I kind

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:38.080
<v Speaker 2>of actually wanted to cry this whole time, but I've

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:39.440
<v Speaker 2>been trying to lock it up because.

0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:41.720
<v Speaker 1>It's sad, because we are it is. It is like

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:44.680
<v Speaker 1>even being the homebody that I am, like, I'm still

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 1>sad about it. I don't want anyone to think that

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think about it, that I'm not sad about it,

0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:51.480
<v Speaker 1>even though there may be those moments that I'm in

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:54.119
<v Speaker 1>a place where I'm like, I just can't do it tonight.

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I gotta be home. I got it, you know.

0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.119
<v Speaker 1>And that's a lot of coping stuff too, you know,

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:02.720
<v Speaker 1>as we go through all of this, but it's so

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:05.160
<v Speaker 1>interesting you bring this up because I've been thinking about

0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:09.360
<v Speaker 1>it a lot lately. And it's summer. We're gonna have

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 1>more time, We're gonna have pool parties at Jana's house.

0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:16.560
<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna be upset then yours and you're not

0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>a house.

0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 2>And I have a baby that's about to turn too,

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 2>so like it's cheesy, yes, like that's part of it.

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 3>Is like I've been so.

0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Tacket one down.

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Well just hard.

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 5>It's like I don't want to be like not inviting

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:35.440
<v Speaker 5>people over, but you Cris, I'm so frecking tired. It's

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 5>like I don't see my husband. I have help most days,

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 5>but like only until like four or five, and so

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm doing every bedtime, every dinner, like you know, and

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:49.640
<v Speaker 5>so like of course I want people around, Like I'll

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 5>be honest, like I love my neighborhood because I can

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:53.879
<v Speaker 5>just walk and it's like impromptu play dates in a

0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 5>driveway or whatever. But then I get back home and

0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, gosh, that was so good for my soul

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 5>to like plug it into a community. But the thought

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 5>of like packing everyone up and driving thirty and then

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:08.159
<v Speaker 5>it's really fun with a two year old until it's not.

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 5>And then you're driving home and I'm usually by myself,

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 5>and then I've got three tired kids trying to do

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:15.360
<v Speaker 5>bedtimes and everything's late, and it's like I don't want

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:17.320
<v Speaker 5>that to be the reason I don't see people. And

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 5>then I'm like I don't want people to also think

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 5>I just don't want to have people over. Like there

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:23.360
<v Speaker 5>is a family that we hang out with like more

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:25.359
<v Speaker 5>often because they're in a different stage of life and

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 5>they come over and that's great, but it's like not

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 5>you guys, you know, like it's just not the ease

0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 5>of what we have, Like I can I don't have

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 5>to be cute, I don't have to be buttoned up.

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:39.760
<v Speaker 5>I don't have to pretend like everything is great. That's

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 5>like the core friendship. I just I don't know, I

0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 5>just feel like we're all in the season.

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think for myself that, like I keep

0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:50.919
<v Speaker 1>reminding myself when I think about it, like it takes intentionality,

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:54.199
<v Speaker 1>it takes making it happen, And I think I am

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:56.440
<v Speaker 1>speaking for myself. I can get very lazy about that.

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I can want to send that text and say, hey,

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 1>what are the dates, let's do this whatever, But then

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 1>when people don't respond or don't pick a date, then

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>it's like okay and just kind.

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 3>Of let it like our youugre group the last few

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 3>because it's like yeah.

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 1>And actually stay on Yeah, And that's usually how a

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of things happen, honestly, when I'm you know, like, okay,

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it, so

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>let's be better about it because I think that, Hey,

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited for summer. I think summer is going to

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:24.199
<v Speaker 1>be it's going to be busy, but it's also going

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 1>to be easier. It gets easier in the summer. Yeah.

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's just like having that, like you said,

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 2>intentionality behind it, because I was just talking with Alan

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:33.639
<v Speaker 2>about that too, where it's like we need to be

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 2>more intentional about date nights and having it and having

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 2>that connection because when we actually go when we finally

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:41.159
<v Speaker 2>went on that one a couple of weeks ago, it

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 2>was how much we were so much more connected. And

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 2>obviously we're connected as friends and stuff, but there's something

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 2>to be said to have that fun and that connection

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 2>time with everybody, and Chris and I get it. On

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Mother's Day, we went to a farm and I mean,

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 2>there was other couples there at this farm, and I

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 2>didn't I said maybe two words.

0:27:58.480 --> 0:27:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Because I'm chasing.

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:02.400
<v Speaker 2>He's of everywhere, you know, I'm chasing from one side

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 2>to the other side of the farm, like having him

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 2>to not kill himself, you know, and picking up all

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 2>this random stuff. So I get I get it, But yes,

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:11.160
<v Speaker 2>yate to pool parties.

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and you're really in it right now. Like I

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't go to anyone else's house with that age. It's

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>because then you're worried about that. That was the hardest

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>because I'm not literally chasing after him and someone else's

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.679
<v Speaker 1>home making sure they don't kill themselves or break something.

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I thought, but this is this is also the fun.

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 2>This is actually where you and I became best friends

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 2>in the Jolie and love being so tiny at the

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:35.920
<v Speaker 2>same time. So I was like, I can bring Lyon

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 2>girl to you more easily because your house is.

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Babyproof, maybe not mine. Mine is dog proof.

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 2>There's a headline Jamie Lee Curtis reveals movie set remark

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 2>that made her get plastic surgery at twenty five. I

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 2>regretted it immediately. She shares the painful reason she first

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 2>decided to get plastic surgery. So the Oscar winner at

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 2>sixty six, I had a new interview that she had

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 2>plastic surgery at the age of twenty five after receiving

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 2>criticism criticizing comments about her appearance from a cinematographer on

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 2>the set of the nineteen eighty five film Perfect. He

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, I'm not shooting her today. Her eyes

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 2>are baggie And I was twenty five, so for him

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 2>to say that, it was very embarrassing, Curtis said on

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 2>sixty Minutes Soon. So as soon as the movie finished,

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I ended up having some plastic surgery. To be told

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 2>that at twenty fo oh, I mean yeah, has anyone

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 2>ever made a comment that stuck with you? I know

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Catherine knows mine because this is around that I was

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty years old and I was a Red Bull was

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 2>at twenty or nineteen. I think it was nineteen, and

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 2>I was working for Red Bull. I would be doing

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>private parties in Los Angeles. So I would come to

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 2>the private party and I'd bring the Red Bull, which

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 2>I never drank because I didn't drink caffeine, but yay

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 2>go red Bull. Here have a drink, and I'd pour

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 2>it in with like the vodka.

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 2>However, they made the drinks and it was at a

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 2>plastic surgeon's house and he was like I asked him.

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I was like, all right, so if there's one thing

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 2>that like I would that you would do to me, Like,

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 2>what would it be? Like, stupid girl? And he goes, oh,

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:21.960
<v Speaker 2>your nose, hands down. And ever since then, I have

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 2>wanted I've always been I never one time was insecure

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 2>about my nose until that plastic surgeon told me that

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 2>I needed to get a nose job. I haven't, obviously,

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 2>but I'm always Catherine nose. Any picture, I'm like, no,

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 2>my nose looks bad in that? Oh no, I don't.

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Can they make my nose with photos? If anyone I've

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 2>ever worked with it?

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's fine except for if she thinks her

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<v Speaker 1>nose doesn't look good.

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<v Speaker 3>She's also stunning all the time, which.

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Drives me crazy because I'm like, I can't pick these

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<v Speaker 1>photos for you because I don't see the issue. I

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:55.479
<v Speaker 1>see nothing wrong with your nose. I genuinely can't decide

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>when you think your nose looks bad or not because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see it.

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<v Speaker 3>I've wanted a nose job my entire life. So we

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<v Speaker 3>all know that.

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<v Speaker 2>If anyone ever made a comment to you about it, Yes,

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 2>when I worked with kindergarteners, kindergarteners, would the principle say

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<v Speaker 2>something to you. No, the kindergarteners, they're so honest, Yeah,

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 2>they were all and I was younger, So like, imagine,

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<v Speaker 2>now we've got another like twenty plus years of growth

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<v Speaker 2>on this schnas. I'm like, who even knows what how

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 2>big they would think it is? Now I've always wanted

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<v Speaker 2>it just a little center right here?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually do it? Yeah?

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, really, it's like a it's a high probability.

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<v Speaker 3>For me really still to this day. Yep, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>more so because again I don't notice that I just sautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>You really, I truly don't.

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 2>For me, it's the width. It was just a tiny

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 2>bit normal. But then I struggle, much like it's like

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 2>you struggle, like we didn't when we talked about the boobs,

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 2>because it's like, this is the way God made me.

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 3>I look like.

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 2>I think part of it is I look like my

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:59.720
<v Speaker 2>dad so much. And I don't mean it's like bad,

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 2>it's just like I don't look like a dude either,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, So that's tricky for.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, you would do well. I had a teacher tell

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>me I was flat, which I was in high school.

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, Yeah, it was a woman tea. She just huh,

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>she's that kind of like yeah, And I already wanted

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 1>a boob job but didn't get it. And then that

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>just made me think, this doesn't have to do with

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>plastic surgery. But remember when I was like my heaviest

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>and we were at your house at a pool party

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and Jolie was like, you got a baby in there.

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, it's time to lose weight. And I

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 1>literally looked at her and I go, oh, honey. I

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>was like, there's not but like it looks like it,

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>like totally like cause you were like, I'm so sorry,

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, no, I've gained weight. I'm in a swimsuit.

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>It looks like that. I have a.

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Discussion with her to be like, we don't talk to

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 2>people about and it's just the innocence of a child,

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 2>but it is so But anyway, but I was.

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Like, hey, it helped me go, you know what, I

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 1>probably should lose some weight, but I haven't done Yeah,

0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I haven't done plastic surgery.

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 2>I think if I did it, I would regrets it,

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 2>but it sounds like, yeah, Kristen, you I would not

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 2>regret it.

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like really would be excited. Yeah.

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Actually I also I'm trying to think of I used

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 2>to get Oh. I almost just want to say his

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 2>full name, just because he was such a little but

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 2>in elementary school, I had one that used to call

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 2>me Carpenter's dream flat as a board. Yeah, Bobby, I

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 2>won't say his last name, but he also he took

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 2>a binder.

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh, the old binder thing as a board, and.

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, Bobby. I hope Bobby is a

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 2>better man today. I hope Dan is too.

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 3>For that matter.

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh yo, hey guys, have you guys been following the

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Eric and Lyell Menendez resentencing?

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 3>No, not really, you haven't. Did you guys watch Monster?

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I started it and could not finish it why, I

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 1>just I don't know. The documentary thing is hard for me.

0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I love thrillers and I love all that, but

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:01.479
<v Speaker 1>like that one just was I don't know.

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Did you watch the documentary?

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I started it, didn't finish it, Okay.

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 2>But then so there's a documentary, then there's the Monster

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:09.760
<v Speaker 2>one that Oh.

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>No, sorry, I actually think I started both of them.

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 2>And didn't kind of eather up them because I think

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:18.800
<v Speaker 2>too they portrayed certain things in differently.

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, uh huh, yeah, I had heard that.

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 2>What do you think about them potentially getting parole for them?

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:26.840
<v Speaker 1>So that's where we're at as they make it parole, right.

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 2>It's the judge re sentences saying that they making the

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 2>brother brothers eligible for parole and possible freedom. Now when

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:37.439
<v Speaker 2>that is who knows. But you know, Lyle's fifty seven,

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 2>Eric's fifty four, they've served I mean, I don't know

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 2>most of our lives. Yeah, because it was around the

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 2>time of the O. J. Simpson, which is why they're saying,

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, is it with their thirty five years, but

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 2>you know for the slaying of their of their mom

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 2>and dad, saying that they they've been there since nineteen

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 2>ninety six. So but they said that there was sexual

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 2>assaults and some there's you know, there was evidence in

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 2>some saying maybe they were just trying to use that

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:12.359
<v Speaker 2>to get out, you know, to get out of the case.

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just curious, do you think they served enough

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:17.319
<v Speaker 2>time or is it something where they should stay in.

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Here's my thing, how many people are in jail for

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 1>committing heinous crimes like that that were probably sexually assaulted

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 1>or treated some way when they were a child, that yes,

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 1>probably caused this to happen. But if we went and

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.840
<v Speaker 1>let everybody out that does these terrible things because terrible

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 1>things were done to them, you don't stop what is

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 1>still can happen. So I struggle with that a lot

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:48.799
<v Speaker 1>because I have empathy or yeah, I have empathy for

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.880
<v Speaker 1>that and that that was done to them, But also,

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:54.880
<v Speaker 1>can you let them out if they're if they're able

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>to commit a crime like that. I don't know, I

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 1>don't I just I bet you the numbers are staggering.

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 1>If people who have been sexually assaulted, who are in

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:05.799
<v Speaker 1>jail from killing people, m hmm, I would agree some

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 1>sort of like sort of abuse. I'm sure it is

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 1>literally staggering. So and then if I start letting everyone out, but.

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 2>My fear would be who would then use that as

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 2>a scapegoat to then kill someone They don't?

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like yeah, like they you know so often I

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:32.280
<v Speaker 1>can't imagine. It's very slow. Yeah, it's interesting and it's sad,

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 1>and it breaks my heart. You know that so many

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 1>of these people have gone through that and it's caused

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:37.800
<v Speaker 1>them to get to this place.

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:40.799
<v Speaker 3>But you did commit the act of still.

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Committed the crime, so you I don't know, you gotta

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:43.359
<v Speaker 1>do the time.

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:47.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they also have to just live with themselves so much.

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 3>It's tricky too, because like.

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if I want to say this,

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:55.240
<v Speaker 2>because I just feel like it just opens the gates.

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 2>But it's like, you know, it's Christians, right, there's redemption

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 2>and there's forgiveness and there's all of these things. So

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like not that there's ever excuse to take someone's

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 2>life ever. But then you also have these young boys

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:11.759
<v Speaker 2>that if that is what was happening to them their

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 2>entire life, to want to do that enough to have

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:19.240
<v Speaker 2>the freedom, whether that meant that you went to jail

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:21.840
<v Speaker 2>and that still was freedom is such a dark place

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 2>that I can't even fathom. Yeah, for sure, how you

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 2>process or how you can even I mean, that doesn't

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:32.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I feel like everything is like tricky

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 2>to say. We talk so much like we're just friends

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 2>and so, and then I forget there's gonna be a

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:39.840
<v Speaker 2>million opinions, but it is, you know, if you believe

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 2>in that, and there has been so many success stories

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:47.239
<v Speaker 2>of people that have been in prison and have like reformed, yeah,

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 2>and and have served time and so don't they allow

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:55.319
<v Speaker 2>like don't we always preach or not always preach, but

0:37:55.400 --> 0:38:00.399
<v Speaker 2>second chances and change and what maybe God is doing

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:01.840
<v Speaker 2>and for them.

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 1>There, Yeah, tricky, that's that's a hard one, ladies.

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 2>I know we were running out of time, right, kit Kat,

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 2>you gotta go, So I say we save our listener

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.239
<v Speaker 2>advice and we add two onto next week because they

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 2>are this one is a juicy one, and uh we

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:20.240
<v Speaker 2>had another one that will add on to it. So, ladies,

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:21.279
<v Speaker 2>next week I'll be on the.

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Couch with you, yay.

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 3>And next week we're gonna party.

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm sending a text one of them really bad

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 2>at guards can't do that, Okay, everyone's I can't.

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 3>Okay, bye, and everybody gets quiet again and nobody.

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 2>That's Sarah Brice Like She'll be like, we should go

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:40.359
<v Speaker 2>to New York and I'm like, okay, great, how about

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 2>these days?

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 3>Well I really can't. Oh yeah, she has a good

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 3>she has the want.

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Way.

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:46.839
<v Speaker 1>Let's go on a trip that me and you were

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the only one I ever truly Yeah the trip

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I got a love,