Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jane Kramer, an Imheart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2: Hi guys, Hi, hey youy you you're remote live from
Speaker 2: the field, Jana Kramer.
Speaker 3: We miss you on.
Speaker 2: The count last time, remote, ladies. Yes, it's a I'm
Speaker 2: ready to come home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one feels like a long one.
Speaker 3: This one has been a long one.
Speaker 2: And I think you know what's hardcat is because I
Speaker 2: think back, so the one in January was you know,
Speaker 2: it was just a ten day shoot, right, and then
Speaker 2: the other one was like a week you know, so
Speaker 2: I haven't really had the one where I lead the film.
Speaker 1: Yeah, since you haven't had the three week or in
Speaker 1: a while in a while, but.
Speaker 2: This was really like three and a half, yeah, because
Speaker 2: I had to come up to go do the Keenlin
Speaker 2: come Back. So it's it's been more, it's been longer,
Speaker 2: and it's I feel like it should not have been
Speaker 2: a sixteen days shoot, like they should have maybe made
Speaker 2: it a little bit longer, given you know, some of
Speaker 2: the circumstances and stuff and the the things out of
Speaker 2: control like horses. Right, so the horse isn't going to
Speaker 2: hit its mark the first time quite possibly any of
Speaker 2: the times, you know, so.
Speaker 1: Well that would be so frustrating.
Speaker 2: Well, I think what was like the craziest piece of
Speaker 2: it is like these aren't really picture horses. These are
Speaker 2: race horses that have raced in races, like legitimate races.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you want me to get on that
Speaker 3: thing and and gallup like that?
Speaker 1: To do that?
Speaker 3: Catherine?
Speaker 1: Wait, wait tell us you wouldn't do that when we
Speaker 1: were because.
Speaker 2: I was pregnant, uh with Roman on the on the
Speaker 2: horse movie The Last Horse.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, that one I would met
Speaker 1: when we were at the your wedding.
Speaker 2: Oh I wouldn't let go of us. Those horses I
Speaker 2: would love to gallop on. Oh I thought you couldn't
Speaker 2: want to get on them. Oh no, because they were neutered,
Speaker 2: because I was like, what if I fall off and
Speaker 2: I break my ankle?
Speaker 1: That's where you was okay anyway, but you did ride
Speaker 1: the horse.
Speaker 2: I did, but like they held onto it, which I
Speaker 2: was like, why are they helding onto these walking horses?
Speaker 3: But you know that's fine walking horse.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what it was. You were the one that
Speaker 1: was sweet Jack. He was like the low rider.
Speaker 3: He was the shrimp horse, and I was like that
Speaker 3: guy's my guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Okay, So anyway, so you've been on horses,
Speaker 1: galloping on racing horses.
Speaker 2: But it was one of those things where it's like
Speaker 2: they're like, all right, get up on the horse, no goat.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I've I've been on this horse for ten minutes.
Speaker 2: I haven't got like this is and this isn't like
Speaker 2: a movie horse that is trained to just be chill.
Speaker 2: And I mean even so it's a horse, you know,
Speaker 2: like and uh it, let's just say I have an
Speaker 2: amazing horse double She's wonderful. She's a real life jockey
Speaker 2: and she was great because I think they also realized
Speaker 2: that this was a very Again, these are not picture horses.
Speaker 2: These are race horses, and I didn't have the time
Speaker 2: to actually train on this English saddle. And like, I
Speaker 2: know Western quite well, and I also know, you know,
Speaker 2: a horse that is neutered and a lot chiller than
Speaker 2: these race horses.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's terrifying. Jam of the jockey.
Speaker 2: So we did a lot of walking scenes and then
Speaker 2: it was basically oh and then we do this one
Speaker 2: where it's it's called like a Poorman's or something where
Speaker 2: I'm on a truck. So to get the feel of
Speaker 2: like the hair blowing. And so I'm on the back
Speaker 2: of a truck and I'm sitting on this apple box,
Speaker 2: which is like a that's what we call them, said,
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's actually what it's called, but
Speaker 2: it's just a box. And I'm sitting out in the
Speaker 2: back and Haley's like, all right, now ride and I'm like,
Speaker 2: in the back of a car's lean forward. I'm like,
Speaker 2: this looks like a really bad porn video, like the
Speaker 2: back of a thick.
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna not be able to think about that now.
Speaker 1: And I watch this movie, They're like, ride it.
Speaker 3: What scene is?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 3: Yes, that is?
Speaker 2: That is a movie magic, but it's which interesting is
Speaker 2: They were also saying, how that is how Toby maguire filmed. Uh,
Speaker 2: he was on a barrel for what movie was that?
Speaker 2: The horse was Seabiscuit. Oh, same thing he was. It
Speaker 2: was a barrel. And then you know they have the
Speaker 2: race horses or the actual body doubles do right, the
Speaker 2: full one that seems safer. And here's the thing too,
Speaker 2: And I was I was telling Haley this because I'm
Speaker 2: I'm all about being a team player and getting the
Speaker 2: shot and doing it. But there was a point where
Speaker 2: it is everyone is rushing and we are losing daylight,
Speaker 2: and we needed to get this scene because we were
Speaker 2: we were getting off of this farm and the horses
Speaker 2: are getting spooked because everyone's like, all right, come on.
Speaker 2: It's like, you can't yell around horses. You cannot have
Speaker 2: that that kind of energy because they sense. That's why
Speaker 2: they're you know, equine therapy for a reason, because they're
Speaker 2: very they help calm you down. And and these horses
Speaker 2: are spooked and they're like hard, get on, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm freaking, this is, this is and then you're gonna
Speaker 2: let them. You're not letting go of this horse, like
Speaker 2: because even Gina was like, this is the horse is
Speaker 2: spooked and it might shot out, and I was like
Speaker 2: if if it shots out, I'm I'm breaking my back
Speaker 2: because I'm jumping off these things.
Speaker 1: Oh god.
Speaker 2: But anyways, okay, but yeah, we got we got the ride.
Speaker 2: I mean, we got the we got the shots, and
Speaker 2: now we're on the nighttime scenes and so yeah, two
Speaker 2: more days and then I'm home.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I miss you. I miss you. Guys. So excited
Speaker 3: anything going on, y'all's world, world world.
Speaker 1: Not really, It's like end of school, just trying to every.
Speaker 3: Day is a theme.
Speaker 2: Every day's a special snack, every day, hot day for Jason. Oh,
Speaker 2: we had that yesterday silly hat day, and I was like,
Speaker 2: you know what's silly?
Speaker 3: Let me gime in.
Speaker 1: We don't really do those so well. I mean, like
Speaker 1: the school does, but my kids just are never really interested. Thankfully.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Love wasn't into it. I'm like, thank god. I was like,
Speaker 2: you're sure you don't want a silly hat? I'm willing
Speaker 2: to participate. She's like, Mom, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, when they've hit that, it's like nice, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about it so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Meanwhile, Legend's like it's camping day and I was like, okay, Bunny, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, we have a flash light and blanket day tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember those.
Speaker 3: Should we have a flashlight? But Mom's of Amazon.
Speaker 2: Oh man, okay, Well gosh, guys, I mean the updates,
Speaker 2: I just don't have any. Well, mine might be an update,
Speaker 2: plus wine about it, so I'm holding it.
Speaker 1: I know. I'm like, isn't updates become what it sticks
Speaker 1: in our mind because we want to whine about it?
Speaker 2: Well, for those that really want to know, I still
Speaker 2: have not started my period. I am on like day,
Speaker 2: I don't know, eighteen whatever I can, let me, let
Speaker 2: me go to my flow app right now. So flow
Speaker 2: says what does what does flow say? And it goes
Speaker 2: another pregnancy incoming? No, I'm seventeen days late.
Speaker 3: So that's fun.
Speaker 1: So are we?
Speaker 2: I texted Nate and I said, hey, hey, buddy, so
Speaker 2: should I be concerned?
Speaker 3: Am I in full on menopause? You know?
Speaker 2: Someone did text me that the poll ups are could
Speaker 2: be an issue and you've had like fibroid stuff before.
Speaker 3: Are we nervous about that?
Speaker 2: Well? What he had said, and it sounds very technical
Speaker 2: and very it always does, you know. I said, hey, buddy,
Speaker 2: I took a pregnancy test on the podcast It's negative
Speaker 2: live And he basically said that sometimes with testosterone, because
Speaker 2: I take testosterone, it can stop your period. And he goes,
Speaker 2: and then so I texted him yesterday. I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: still you know, no period? Kind of freeing out a bit,
Speaker 2: have some stomach cramps and he said, I said, should
Speaker 2: I take my testosterone? Because I'm also getting tired from
Speaker 2: not doing the testosterone, And so he's like, do the testosterone.
Speaker 2: He's like, but when you get back, we're going to
Speaker 2: get you some progesterone. And progesterone and estradal is what
Speaker 2: I'm going to use to kickstart your period again. But
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's so to me, I'm like, but why
Speaker 2: isn't it coming? And is this you know right? It
Speaker 2: just kickstart me feels like the equivalent of being on
Speaker 2: a racehorse without guidance. Yeah, I'm not trying to do
Speaker 2: for this whole moment, I'm just like, I know and if.
Speaker 1: I mean, could it just be perimenopausal stuff?
Speaker 3: Maybe?
Speaker 2: Like maybe, because I mean, like, why did I have
Speaker 2: it for twelve days the last time? I've never had
Speaker 2: a period that long. But then I start to, you
Speaker 2: know me, kat I start to go something else really wrong,
Speaker 2: like is there something?
Speaker 1: But I'm forty one.
Speaker 2: I have to remember that this is this is it
Speaker 2: now and women start to have your regular periods.
Speaker 1: It kind of starts to get a regular for a
Speaker 1: lot of people. So to me, that would be besides
Speaker 1: my first thought of you being pregnant would be probably
Speaker 1: just some peri minimals been a pause of stuff. Everyone
Speaker 1: kind of starts doing that around this time, and then
Speaker 1: it you know, takes a couple of years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your sleep schedules off too. It's like your body
Speaker 2: doesn't know what is night and day. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: so many things that can go into this.
Speaker 1: The testosterone would make sense so too, because you had
Speaker 1: just started taking it again. Yeah I did, so that
Speaker 1: would definitely make sense.
Speaker 3: So tbd.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that's my only thing, and I'm ready
Speaker 2: to come home. So let's jump into wine about it.
Speaker 1: Let's do it.
Speaker 2: Go girl. Okay, I have a theory and I just
Speaker 2: need to know if it's true or not. So I'm
Speaker 2: nervous that I'm doomed in my marriage.
Speaker 1: Shall me start there? No?
Speaker 2: Wait, so I can't have You're nervous you're doomed in
Speaker 2: your marriage? I mean only and then they're going to
Speaker 2: grab that for sure. I think that I didn't mean it.
Speaker 2: It's like, can there be So I would say, I'm
Speaker 2: an outgoing person, but I recharge so much on my own.
Speaker 2: So that's like introverted, right, And so we all know
Speaker 2: that I'm not a huge fan of like hosting people like, well,
Speaker 2: certain people I am, some certain people I'm not. But
Speaker 2: like I don't wake up in the morning and go oh,
Speaker 2: who can we have over tonight? You've never once invited
Speaker 2: us over, so we'll just start there. I used to
Speaker 2: when it was Mike times. I actually thought about this.
Speaker 2: This is part of my discussion.
Speaker 3: I've never I never went to your house with m
Speaker 3: I k E.
Speaker 1: We're spelling though, make a mouse. Sorry, keep going.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: I thought about this.
Speaker 2: Because I was like, I haven't like once people are like,
Speaker 2: oh no, you know, like it's easier to do it
Speaker 2: here whatever. You were always the more scheduled mom, so
Speaker 2: for sure, so I would always just like we would
Speaker 2: be that's true, and I'm always like I like to
Speaker 2: be I like to entertain a host.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you like to do it at your house.
Speaker 2: So that's my question and not a whine about it,
Speaker 2: but kind of it's like, so I don't wake up
Speaker 2: in the morning and go I cannot wait to have
Speaker 2: people over tonight. I don't dream. I feel like I
Speaker 2: know that it just makes me sound so bitchy. I'm
Speaker 2: not closed off at all. And when I have had
Speaker 2: people over, I like love it and it's great and.
Speaker 3: Then I'm like ready for them to go home.
Speaker 2: But I married someone that lives on a bus with
Speaker 2: twelve dudes. So he's never alone. When he's in a
Speaker 2: truck by himself, he is taking conference calls like he's
Speaker 2: silence is not something that's like comforting to him. And
Speaker 2: so he's home for five days, which is unheard of.
Speaker 2: And this is the five days before we see him
Speaker 2: December sixteenth, essentially, because it's like summer is crazy, you know,
Speaker 2: and we get five sleeps with him, and he's like,
Speaker 2: I think she had my parents come. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I know, and I want I also want to recognize
Speaker 2: that he doesn't get to see his people often either,
Speaker 2: you know, like of course he misses them. He's seen
Speaker 2: them a little bit more than I have because he's
Speaker 2: done shows in Indiana whatever. And so I'm trying to
Speaker 2: be I really wish we had like footage of this,
Speaker 2: because he keeps going, you know, should we have them?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, if that is what you want to do,
Speaker 2: and I just keep saying sentences like that, so therapeutic
Speaker 2: of you, well, because I'm like, I don't want to
Speaker 2: be dishonest and say, oh, I'd love to have them here,
Speaker 2: because that doesn't excite me for the you know, for
Speaker 2: forty eight of the five days that we get you
Speaker 2: I don't want them here for forty eight hours. So
Speaker 2: then I had this moment where I'm like, our couples
Speaker 2: that both don't love that doomed because there's always push
Speaker 2: pull and is there one like are you like, I
Speaker 2: know you love to have people of a Kramer, but
Speaker 2: does Alan.
Speaker 3: Or is he just good?
Speaker 2: If yeah, he does like I mean he does like him,
Speaker 2: but I and I will say this like if I'm honest,
Speaker 2: like I'm actually bummed about the state of and I'm
Speaker 2: not like, please don't take any of this book to
Speaker 2: both of y'all. Personally, I understand lives are like no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I understand lives are super crazy. I get sad when
Speaker 2: I see like my hometown, my hometown girlfriends and their hut.
Speaker 2: Everyone hangs out a lot together and they've got and
Speaker 2: it's like I don't really like, yeah, I see you guys,
Speaker 2: but I'm like, and I'm like, hey, can we do
Speaker 2: this together?
Speaker 3: Can we do that?
Speaker 2: And then you'll vite you guys over for and again
Speaker 2: I know you guys, Catherine, You've got ages of all
Speaker 2: different types. You know, Kristen, you've got a husband that
Speaker 2: you don't really see a lot. And so the rejection
Speaker 2: of like hanging out has been high, and it feels
Speaker 2: like I want and I would love to go elsewhere.
Speaker 2: I understand too, Like I was in a phase where
Speaker 2: my own comfort of wanting to be in my house,
Speaker 2: but I'm like, I would love to go to someone
Speaker 2: else's house and be invited to someone else or have
Speaker 2: them want us to all hang out because I miss
Speaker 2: the like friendship of hanging out with couples and kids
Speaker 2: and I don't have that and it feels sad to me.
Speaker 3: So is it our season though? Because that was kind
Speaker 3: of So this is where I've been.
Speaker 2: I'm actually glad I brought this up because this is
Speaker 2: where I've been for like probably the last like I
Speaker 2: would say the last month or so.
Speaker 3: Remember I text you, I was like, I've been in
Speaker 3: a weird place anyways. Well yeah, because the East.
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, you know, and I get it,
Speaker 2: but I but yes, but I just want to be
Speaker 2: in to get him home. I know, I know, I know, yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, And I think that's part of it too,
Speaker 2: is like I'm protective of our time with him because
Speaker 2: our kids are so sensitive to not seeing him. Sure,
Speaker 2: but he like loves it, Like if I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, Russell's are coming over. He'd be like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is great, what is coming over great? Like he
Speaker 2: wants everybody all the time. Yeah, I think Also, so
Speaker 2: this is where I'm at.
Speaker 1: Is it part of it?
Speaker 2: I think I'm being honest. I'm making excuses for myself
Speaker 2: because I had to check myself. Part of my Part
Speaker 2: of it is that we have these babies that like
Speaker 2: if I have people over and we've done this, We've
Speaker 2: had like friends of the kids came over their parents
Speaker 2: and like, I'm just chasing a baby until like seven thirty,
Speaker 2: and then I have to dip out for like thirty
Speaker 2: to forty five minutes and do bath time and bedtime.
Speaker 2: And then by the time I come back down, I've
Speaker 2: missed like an hour of conversation and I'm plugging back in.
Speaker 2: But now it's like eight eight thirty, I'm tired, you know,
Speaker 2: like I can't So is it our ages maybe of
Speaker 2: just the kids, right, because also like I don't want
Speaker 2: her up past seven thirty if I can help it
Speaker 2: for my own sanity, But I'm not afraid to like
Speaker 2: bust the schedule sometimes if it's helpful and we're out
Speaker 2: and we're hanging out with people, but like, man, I
Speaker 2: just feel like I'm like, where is it that I'm impossible?
Speaker 2: Like that's where I've been because it's everything is so
Speaker 2: much effort right now that if I'm extra hosting, which
Speaker 2: y'all honestly, you guys could come to my house and
Speaker 2: I wouldn't feel like I have to clean or do anything.
Speaker 2: I feel like, you're just so cozy. I would be
Speaker 2: so happy to have you. And I really mean that,
Speaker 2: like it doesn't stress me out. But I think we
Speaker 2: know that you want your time with Preston, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also, like and if I'm by myself, I'm like, let's
Speaker 2: just get these kids in bed so I can Yeah, Catherine,
Speaker 2: I know you gotta.
Speaker 1: Well, I have a lot of things to say on that.
Speaker 1: I think I've gone through two phases of it. I
Speaker 1: went through that phase when the kids were younger, Like
Speaker 1: my babies were on a schedule. They were screaming if
Speaker 1: they weren't in bed at that time, So it was
Speaker 1: not worth it. It was not being at someone It
Speaker 1: was not worth being at someone else's house with my
Speaker 1: kids screaming, trying to make a conversation at.
Speaker 2: Show thirty because we don't even get quality conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I went through that phase where we didn't
Speaker 1: do a whole lot because of that, and then I
Speaker 1: got a lot better, I think through I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: a homebody. Everyone knows that. Like I'm a homebody. I
Speaker 1: could be at home every night of my life and
Speaker 1: be a happy person like I'm just a homebody. But
Speaker 1: I definitely got a lot better and really started to
Speaker 1: enjoy doing all these things as the kids kind of
Speaker 1: got to an older age and they could, you know,
Speaker 1: have pool parties and do all that with the kids.
Speaker 1: But now I'm at a phase of my life where
Speaker 1: my sixteen year old is doing whatever. My thirteen year
Speaker 1: old doesn't want to go. Let's just be real, because
Speaker 1: there's no one for her to hang out with mostly, you.
Speaker 2: Know, or she becomes like a babysitter, and that's not
Speaker 2: what she wants to do right exactly.
Speaker 1: She'd rather be with her friends. But then the problem
Speaker 1: is is then she needs a ride everywhere because she
Speaker 1: never has a ride anywhere because her friends don't take
Speaker 1: her anywhere. And so now I'm back in a phase
Speaker 1: where it just seems so impossible to do again, but
Speaker 1: this time it does make me sad, like I do
Speaker 1: feel more sad about it at the same time, like
Speaker 1: I wish it was different. Well, not that I wish
Speaker 1: that it was different. I love this phase, but also
Speaker 1: I do wish there was more time to be able
Speaker 1: to do that. And then I've realized too, like us
Speaker 1: coming over as a family just right now will mean
Speaker 1: that my teenagers aren't there, and that's okay. My teenagers
Speaker 1: don't have to come, or they can come every now
Speaker 1: and then. But like we, I think the last thing
Speaker 1: we did at your house, you know, I think Kayden
Speaker 1: his girlfriend ended up just coming over there, you know,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, you know what, we're all
Speaker 1: going to go tonight. I know you want to see her.
Speaker 1: If she would like to, then she can come over here,
Speaker 1: you know. So I think there's ways to do it,
Speaker 1: and I think that we all need to be more
Speaker 1: intentional with it. Now. Look, I'm probably not inviting all
Speaker 1: to my house. I don't like to host.
Speaker 3: I've never also been over there either. Besides the bird
Speaker 3: you have.
Speaker 1: You have been over there.
Speaker 3: So when if we've ever done a date night over there,
Speaker 3: that hasn't been.
Speaker 1: We don't do we haven't done like a date well,
Speaker 1: I know, but.
Speaker 3: We definitely say and like, yeah, you know what I mean, but.
Speaker 1: I don't like to host. Yeah, And a lot of
Speaker 1: that did definitely start with you like to have it
Speaker 1: at your house. I do, sure love Yeah, yeah you do.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if it's because I was just
Speaker 2: wanting to just not have to drive anywhere, like there's
Speaker 2: a pet, you know.
Speaker 1: But also, and that's where everyone's so different. Like even
Speaker 1: though I'm a homebody, I think it's like if I'm home,
Speaker 1: I want to be like home by myself. But if
Speaker 1: I'm going, like fine, I'll drive, that's great, like let's go,
Speaker 1: and like I'm out and I'm you know, I'm in
Speaker 1: that mindset. If I'm at home, I'm not. But also
Speaker 1: I stress about cleaning to make it perfect for anyone,
Speaker 1: the closest of people. Well, it does not matter. I'll
Speaker 1: stress about doing that. I'll stress about is it you
Speaker 1: know my house is falling apart, I need to get
Speaker 1: a new couch. I needed to, you know, like whatever
Speaker 1: it is. That kind of stuff will flood my brain
Speaker 1: to where I'm just like I want to cancel.
Speaker 2: So this is the hometown feeling that I've been missing,
Speaker 2: which is like come in the mess.
Speaker 3: Well that's exactly.
Speaker 2: It's like I see my girlfriends all the time together
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, doing pool parties, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: there was a piece of me that was like, God,
Speaker 2: I want to move. This is a thing to say
Speaker 2: because it's not a buggets kuse. I was like, I
Speaker 2: want to move back to Michigan to have that like
Speaker 2: like where everyone's hanging out. And I'm like, but then
Speaker 2: I thought to myself if I moved there, would it
Speaker 2: actually would that actually happen? I don't know, you know,
Speaker 2: in seasons, But I was like, I wish we could
Speaker 2: find some kind of because we just don't have.
Speaker 3: That yeah bums.
Speaker 1: I mean and I know for me too, like it's
Speaker 1: not an insecurity, but I'm like, I don't have a
Speaker 1: pool at my house and I don't have anything fun
Speaker 1: at my house. I'm like, I mean we can play games,
Speaker 1: like come over and play games, you know, and and
Speaker 1: I should do more of that probably, but like, and
Speaker 1: I think that's where we kind of got in it
Speaker 1: with you too, because it was like, oh, we'll just
Speaker 1: go to Jani's house. She's got the pool, she's got
Speaker 1: the fun stuff.
Speaker 3: But I love it too, though, to have like the
Speaker 3: place that I go to, and I.
Speaker 4: Think for us for a good solution to all of
Speaker 4: this kid's party in two weeks, right.
Speaker 1: But I think it's yeah, no, But seriously, it's recognizing that, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I am a homebody. I don't love to host. I
Speaker 1: would love. It's not that I don't want you in
Speaker 1: my home. It's not that like that's fine, but like
Speaker 1: I would rather go to your house. If I'm just
Speaker 1: being completely honest, I would rather go to Cramer's. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've never been to your home at all, but that's okay,
Speaker 1: weird haven't been to mine?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because how she was posed to me by a
Speaker 2: mutual friend and they're like, oh, you know because Nick
Speaker 2: and Kat's house is so cute or something, and I
Speaker 2: was like.
Speaker 1: Who who was that that's been to my house?
Speaker 2: Isn't that funny that people are listening probably will go
Speaker 2: what I know?
Speaker 1: And that funny? It's why?
Speaker 2: But then, and that's what's crazy, because we've also been
Speaker 2: to like a million cities together and we have you know.
Speaker 1: There's another aspect of this to where this doesn't really
Speaker 1: have to do with you, but it kind of does.
Speaker 1: When we were all doing cards. We were all over
Speaker 1: the world, and at the beginning, I offered my house
Speaker 1: several times, but I was the furthest away and no
Speaker 1: one took me up on it.
Speaker 3: Well, and at home, everyone was.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, well, maybe we'll go to Jana's because it's
Speaker 1: so Then I was like, totally, it makes sense, it's closer.
Speaker 1: So I never offered again.
Speaker 2: Well here is not like for sure, Yeah, like logistically
Speaker 2: we're not as close as like the home people like
Speaker 2: at home, everyone lives within ten minutes of each other,
Speaker 2: Like I'm a solid thirty.
Speaker 1: Right, and that's what people have to understand. We're not
Speaker 1: me and you were definitely not close to each other.
Speaker 2: Jana is because I see her backyard.
Speaker 3: Exactly if she ever moves.
Speaker 2: You know. It's like right when I came up, do
Speaker 2: I got to find new friends that have no you know.
Speaker 4: We're going to have a solution because because I need you.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, no, no, I like you friends replacing you. But
Speaker 4: I'm yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Don't cave up on me, is what I'm saying. Don't
Speaker 1: live up.
Speaker 2: So that's where I got with this, because even Pamela
Speaker 2: and I like had this exchange where she was like,
Speaker 2: I just feel like I haven't seen you, and she
Speaker 2: was going to be in an event that I was
Speaker 2: going to be.
Speaker 3: I didn't end up going the same Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: The book I oh you said what she did the
Speaker 2: cookbook one?
Speaker 3: And I said the cook.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, I just got uncomfortable fast.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so she.
Speaker 2: Did, I do not get invited to the other one.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the other one is, so we'll
Speaker 2: go No.
Speaker 3: I wasn't either, so us three were excluded.
Speaker 1: We'll go back to that off okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: So I was like, you know, hey, I was like,
Speaker 2: are you going to be there? I will be excited
Speaker 2: because I just also was like, who's going to be there?
Speaker 2: I don't know who's invited. That's always and I'm kind
Speaker 2: of like outskirt invited.
Speaker 1: So I did know that she invited our whole group though,
Speaker 1: said something to me.
Speaker 3: Which one cook the cookok Kara Clark.
Speaker 1: Yes, she told me she really wanted our group blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah, and then not everyone good her book.
Speaker 2: But yes, So then Pamelin was like, I just kind
Speaker 2: of like miss you. She was, well, she didn't say
Speaker 2: kind of, She's like I miss you. I feel like
Speaker 2: I've kind of like been like tucked away and I've
Speaker 2: been going after my goals. And I was like, and
Speaker 2: so I just wrote, I sent her a voice note
Speaker 2: back and I said, I just want you to know
Speaker 2: I like I can speak for me at least, like
Speaker 2: I feel the same way. We're all grinding, we're all hustling.
Speaker 2: We're all friends that are entrepreneurs, which is like we're
Speaker 2: all building businesses and trying to take shows and movies
Speaker 2: and podcasts and like just trying to freaking build something
Speaker 2: for our families. And like, I love one thing I
Speaker 2: can say the good of this, because I started to
Speaker 2: get sad too. I was like I just miss like
Speaker 2: hanging out and how easy it is. And after Scotland especially,
Speaker 2: like we all just like, oh we're so cozy and
Speaker 2: we got to live together, and I was like, this
Speaker 2: is really fun, Like we should Melrose place this lifestyle
Speaker 2: and like, let's all do this. You know. I wish
Speaker 2: that interest rates weren't so high because I would think
Speaker 2: about moving closer. But like I told Pam, I was like,
Speaker 2: I the one thing that I love about this is
Speaker 2: I don't feel like we're less friends because I'm not
Speaker 2: seeing you, you know, and like hugging your neck, I
Speaker 2: feel like voice memoing kind of makes me feel connected.
Speaker 1: But like, well, I have to remember for my I
Speaker 1: have to remind myself that, especially Jana, I think about
Speaker 1: this a lot actually, that that is one of your
Speaker 1: love languages. Like I know that. I know that when
Speaker 1: I can't come over or whatever that is, it is
Speaker 1: hard on you and it's hurtful. And I try to
Speaker 1: remember that and then I miss it too, Like I
Speaker 1: absolutely miss it too, you guys.
Speaker 2: I'm only crying because I'm really tired, so I kind
Speaker 2: of actually wanted to cry this whole time, but I've
Speaker 2: been trying to lock it up because.
Speaker 1: It's sad, because we are it is. It is like
Speaker 1: even being the homebody that I am, like, I'm still
Speaker 1: sad about it. I don't want anyone to think that
Speaker 1: I don't think about it, that I'm not sad about it,
Speaker 1: even though there may be those moments that I'm in
Speaker 1: a place where I'm like, I just can't do it tonight.
Speaker 1: I can't. I gotta be home. I got it, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's a lot of coping stuff too, you know,
Speaker 1: as we go through all of this, but it's so
Speaker 1: interesting you bring this up because I've been thinking about
Speaker 1: it a lot lately. And it's summer. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: more time, We're gonna have pool parties at Jana's house.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna be upset then yours and you're not
Speaker 1: a house.
Speaker 2: And I have a baby that's about to turn too,
Speaker 2: so like it's cheesy, yes, like that's part of it.
Speaker 3: Is like I've been so.
Speaker 1: Tacket one down.
Speaker 2: Well just hard.
Speaker 5: It's like I don't want to be like not inviting
Speaker 5: people over, but you Cris, I'm so frecking tired. It's
Speaker 5: like I don't see my husband. I have help most days,
Speaker 5: but like only until like four or five, and so
Speaker 5: I'm doing every bedtime, every dinner, like you know, and
Speaker 5: so like of course I want people around, Like I'll
Speaker 5: be honest, like I love my neighborhood because I can
Speaker 5: just walk and it's like impromptu play dates in a
Speaker 5: driveway or whatever. But then I get back home and
Speaker 5: I'm like, gosh, that was so good for my soul
Speaker 5: to like plug it into a community. But the thought
Speaker 5: of like packing everyone up and driving thirty and then
Speaker 5: it's really fun with a two year old until it's not.
Speaker 5: And then you're driving home and I'm usually by myself,
Speaker 5: and then I've got three tired kids trying to do
Speaker 5: bedtimes and everything's late, and it's like I don't want
Speaker 5: that to be the reason I don't see people. And
Speaker 5: then I'm like I don't want people to also think
Speaker 5: I just don't want to have people over. Like there
Speaker 5: is a family that we hang out with like more
Speaker 5: often because they're in a different stage of life and
Speaker 5: they come over and that's great, but it's like not
Speaker 5: you guys, you know, like it's just not the ease
Speaker 5: of what we have, Like I can I don't have
Speaker 5: to be cute, I don't have to be buttoned up.
Speaker 5: I don't have to pretend like everything is great. That's
Speaker 5: like the core friendship. I just I don't know, I
Speaker 5: just feel like we're all in the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think for myself that, like I keep
Speaker 1: reminding myself when I think about it, like it takes intentionality,
Speaker 1: it takes making it happen, And I think I am
Speaker 1: speaking for myself. I can get very lazy about that.
Speaker 1: I can want to send that text and say, hey,
Speaker 1: what are the dates, let's do this whatever, But then
Speaker 1: when people don't respond or don't pick a date, then
Speaker 1: it's like okay and just kind.
Speaker 3: Of let it like our youugre group the last few
Speaker 3: because it's like yeah.
Speaker 1: And actually stay on Yeah, And that's usually how a
Speaker 1: lot of things happen, honestly, when I'm you know, like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it, so
Speaker 1: let's be better about it because I think that, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm excited for summer. I think summer is going to
Speaker 1: be it's going to be busy, but it's also going
Speaker 1: to be easier. It gets easier in the summer. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's just like having that, like you said,
Speaker 2: intentionality behind it, because I was just talking with Alan
Speaker 2: about that too, where it's like we need to be
Speaker 2: more intentional about date nights and having it and having
Speaker 2: that connection because when we actually go when we finally
Speaker 2: went on that one a couple of weeks ago, it
Speaker 2: was how much we were so much more connected. And
Speaker 2: obviously we're connected as friends and stuff, but there's something
Speaker 2: to be said to have that fun and that connection
Speaker 2: time with everybody, and Chris and I get it. On
Speaker 2: Mother's Day, we went to a farm and I mean,
Speaker 2: there was other couples there at this farm, and I
Speaker 2: didn't I said maybe two words.
Speaker 3: Because I'm chasing.
Speaker 2: He's of everywhere, you know, I'm chasing from one side
Speaker 2: to the other side of the farm, like having him
Speaker 2: to not kill himself, you know, and picking up all
Speaker 2: this random stuff. So I get I get it, But yes,
Speaker 2: yate to pool parties.
Speaker 1: Yes, and you're really in it right now. Like I
Speaker 1: wouldn't go to anyone else's house with that age. It's
Speaker 1: because then you're worried about that. That was the hardest
Speaker 1: because I'm not literally chasing after him and someone else's
Speaker 1: home making sure they don't kill themselves or break something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought, but this is this is also the fun.
Speaker 2: This is actually where you and I became best friends
Speaker 2: in the Jolie and love being so tiny at the
Speaker 2: same time. So I was like, I can bring Lyon
Speaker 2: girl to you more easily because your house is.
Speaker 1: Babyproof, maybe not mine. Mine is dog proof.
Speaker 2: There's a headline Jamie Lee Curtis reveals movie set remark
Speaker 2: that made her get plastic surgery at twenty five. I
Speaker 2: regretted it immediately. She shares the painful reason she first
Speaker 2: decided to get plastic surgery. So the Oscar winner at
Speaker 2: sixty six, I had a new interview that she had
Speaker 2: plastic surgery at the age of twenty five after receiving
Speaker 2: criticism criticizing comments about her appearance from a cinematographer on
Speaker 2: the set of the nineteen eighty five film Perfect. He
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I'm not shooting her today. Her eyes
Speaker 2: are baggie And I was twenty five, so for him
Speaker 2: to say that, it was very embarrassing, Curtis said on
Speaker 2: sixty Minutes Soon. So as soon as the movie finished,
Speaker 2: I ended up having some plastic surgery. To be told
Speaker 2: that at twenty fo oh, I mean yeah, has anyone
Speaker 2: ever made a comment that stuck with you? I know
Speaker 2: Catherine knows mine because this is around that I was
Speaker 2: twenty years old and I was a Red Bull was
Speaker 2: at twenty or nineteen. I think it was nineteen, and
Speaker 2: I was working for Red Bull. I would be doing
Speaker 2: private parties in Los Angeles. So I would come to
Speaker 2: the private party and I'd bring the Red Bull, which
Speaker 2: I never drank because I didn't drink caffeine, but yay
Speaker 2: go red Bull. Here have a drink, and I'd pour
Speaker 2: it in with like the vodka.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: However, they made the drinks and it was at a
Speaker 2: plastic surgeon's house and he was like I asked him.
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, so if there's one thing
Speaker 2: that like I would that you would do to me, Like,
Speaker 2: what would it be? Like, stupid girl? And he goes, oh,
Speaker 2: your nose, hands down. And ever since then, I have
Speaker 2: wanted I've always been I never one time was insecure
Speaker 2: about my nose until that plastic surgeon told me that
Speaker 2: I needed to get a nose job. I haven't, obviously,
Speaker 2: but I'm always Catherine nose. Any picture, I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: my nose looks bad in that? Oh no, I don't.
Speaker 2: Can they make my nose with photos? If anyone I've
Speaker 2: ever worked with it?
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's fine except for if she thinks her
Speaker 1: nose doesn't look good.
Speaker 3: She's also stunning all the time, which.
Speaker 1: Drives me crazy because I'm like, I can't pick these
Speaker 1: photos for you because I don't see the issue. I
Speaker 1: see nothing wrong with your nose. I genuinely can't decide
Speaker 1: when you think your nose looks bad or not because
Speaker 1: I don't see it.
Speaker 3: I've wanted a nose job my entire life. So we
Speaker 3: all know that.
Speaker 2: If anyone ever made a comment to you about it, Yes,
Speaker 2: when I worked with kindergarteners, kindergarteners, would the principle say
Speaker 2: something to you. No, the kindergarteners, they're so honest, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they were all and I was younger, So like, imagine,
Speaker 2: now we've got another like twenty plus years of growth
Speaker 2: on this schnas. I'm like, who even knows what how
Speaker 2: big they would think it is? Now I've always wanted
Speaker 2: it just a little center right here?
Speaker 3: Actually do it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, really, it's like a it's a high probability.
Speaker 3: For me really still to this day. Yep, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: more so because again I don't notice that I just sautiful.
Speaker 1: You really, I truly don't.
Speaker 2: For me, it's the width. It was just a tiny
Speaker 2: bit normal. But then I struggle, much like it's like
Speaker 2: you struggle, like we didn't when we talked about the boobs,
Speaker 2: because it's like, this is the way God made me.
Speaker 3: I look like.
Speaker 2: I think part of it is I look like my
Speaker 2: dad so much. And I don't mean it's like bad,
Speaker 2: it's just like I don't look like a dude either,
Speaker 2: you know, So that's tricky for.
Speaker 1: Me, you would do well. I had a teacher tell
Speaker 1: me I was flat, which I was in high school.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Yeah, it was a woman tea. She just huh,
Speaker 1: she's that kind of like yeah, And I already wanted
Speaker 1: a boob job but didn't get it. And then that
Speaker 1: just made me think, this doesn't have to do with
Speaker 1: plastic surgery. But remember when I was like my heaviest
Speaker 1: and we were at your house at a pool party
Speaker 1: and Jolie was like, you got a baby in there.
Speaker 1: I was like, it's time to lose weight. And I
Speaker 1: literally looked at her and I go, oh, honey. I
Speaker 1: was like, there's not but like it looks like it,
Speaker 1: like totally like cause you were like, I'm so sorry,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, I've gained weight. I'm in a swimsuit.
Speaker 1: It looks like that. I have a.
Speaker 2: Discussion with her to be like, we don't talk to
Speaker 2: people about and it's just the innocence of a child,
Speaker 2: but it is so But anyway, but I was.
Speaker 1: Like, hey, it helped me go, you know what, I
Speaker 1: probably should lose some weight, but I haven't done Yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't done plastic surgery.
Speaker 2: I think if I did it, I would regrets it,
Speaker 2: but it sounds like, yeah, Kristen, you I would not
Speaker 2: regret it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like really would be excited. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Actually I also I'm trying to think of I used
Speaker 2: to get Oh. I almost just want to say his
Speaker 2: full name, just because he was such a little but
Speaker 2: in elementary school, I had one that used to call
Speaker 2: me Carpenter's dream flat as a board. Yeah, Bobby, I
Speaker 2: won't say his last name, but he also he took
Speaker 2: a binder.
Speaker 1: Oh, the old binder thing as a board, and.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, Bobby. I hope Bobby is a
Speaker 2: better man today. I hope Dan is too.
Speaker 3: For that matter.
Speaker 2: Oh yo, hey guys, have you guys been following the
Speaker 2: Eric and Lyell Menendez resentencing?
Speaker 3: No, not really, you haven't. Did you guys watch Monster?
Speaker 1: I started it and could not finish it why, I
Speaker 1: just I don't know. The documentary thing is hard for me.
Speaker 1: Like I love thrillers and I love all that, but
Speaker 1: like that one just was I don't know.
Speaker 3: Did you watch the documentary?
Speaker 1: I started it, didn't finish it, Okay.
Speaker 2: But then so there's a documentary, then there's the Monster
Speaker 2: one that Oh.
Speaker 1: No, sorry, I actually think I started both of them.
Speaker 2: And didn't kind of eather up them because I think
Speaker 2: too they portrayed certain things in differently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh huh, yeah, I had heard that.
Speaker 2: What do you think about them potentially getting parole for them?
Speaker 1: So that's where we're at as they make it parole, right.
Speaker 2: It's the judge re sentences saying that they making the
Speaker 2: brother brothers eligible for parole and possible freedom. Now when
Speaker 2: that is who knows. But you know, Lyle's fifty seven,
Speaker 2: Eric's fifty four, they've served I mean, I don't know
Speaker 2: most of our lives. Yeah, because it was around the
Speaker 2: time of the O. J. Simpson, which is why they're saying,
Speaker 2: you know, is it with their thirty five years, but
Speaker 2: you know for the slaying of their of their mom
Speaker 2: and dad, saying that they they've been there since nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety six. So but they said that there was sexual
Speaker 2: assaults and some there's you know, there was evidence in
Speaker 2: some saying maybe they were just trying to use that
Speaker 2: to get out, you know, to get out of the case.
Speaker 2: So I'm just curious, do you think they served enough
Speaker 2: time or is it something where they should stay in.
Speaker 1: Here's my thing, how many people are in jail for
Speaker 1: committing heinous crimes like that that were probably sexually assaulted
Speaker 1: or treated some way when they were a child, that yes,
Speaker 1: probably caused this to happen. But if we went and
Speaker 1: let everybody out that does these terrible things because terrible
Speaker 1: things were done to them, you don't stop what is
Speaker 1: still can happen. So I struggle with that a lot
Speaker 1: because I have empathy or yeah, I have empathy for
Speaker 1: that and that that was done to them, But also,
Speaker 1: can you let them out if they're if they're able
Speaker 1: to commit a crime like that. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't I just I bet you the numbers are staggering.
Speaker 1: If people who have been sexually assaulted, who are in
Speaker 1: jail from killing people, m hmm, I would agree some
Speaker 1: sort of like sort of abuse. I'm sure it is
Speaker 1: literally staggering. So and then if I start letting everyone out, but.
Speaker 2: My fear would be who would then use that as
Speaker 2: a scapegoat to then kill someone They don't?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like yeah, like they you know so often I
Speaker 1: can't imagine. It's very slow. Yeah, it's interesting and it's sad,
Speaker 1: and it breaks my heart. You know that so many
Speaker 1: of these people have gone through that and it's caused
Speaker 1: them to get to this place.
Speaker 3: But you did commit the act of still.
Speaker 1: Committed the crime, so you I don't know, you gotta
Speaker 1: do the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they also have to just live with themselves so much.
Speaker 3: It's tricky too, because like.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if I want to say this,
Speaker 2: because I just feel like it just opens the gates.
Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, it's Christians, right, there's redemption
Speaker 2: and there's forgiveness and there's all of these things. So
Speaker 2: it's like not that there's ever excuse to take someone's
Speaker 2: life ever. But then you also have these young boys
Speaker 2: that if that is what was happening to them their
Speaker 2: entire life, to want to do that enough to have
Speaker 2: the freedom, whether that meant that you went to jail
Speaker 2: and that still was freedom is such a dark place
Speaker 2: that I can't even fathom. Yeah, for sure, how you
Speaker 2: process or how you can even I mean, that doesn't
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like everything is like tricky
Speaker 2: to say. We talk so much like we're just friends
Speaker 2: and so, and then I forget there's gonna be a
Speaker 2: million opinions, but it is, you know, if you believe
Speaker 2: in that, and there has been so many success stories
Speaker 2: of people that have been in prison and have like reformed, yeah,
Speaker 2: and and have served time and so don't they allow
Speaker 2: like don't we always preach or not always preach, but
Speaker 2: second chances and change and what maybe God is doing
Speaker 2: and for them.
Speaker 1: There, Yeah, tricky, that's that's a hard one, ladies.
Speaker 2: I know we were running out of time, right, kit Kat,
Speaker 2: you gotta go, So I say we save our listener
Speaker 2: advice and we add two onto next week because they
Speaker 2: are this one is a juicy one, and uh we
Speaker 2: had another one that will add on to it. So, ladies,
Speaker 2: next week I'll be on the.
Speaker 1: Couch with you, yay.
Speaker 3: And next week we're gonna party.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sending a text one of them really bad
Speaker 2: at guards can't do that, Okay, everyone's I can't.
Speaker 3: Okay, bye, and everybody gets quiet again and nobody.
Speaker 2: That's Sarah Brice Like She'll be like, we should go
Speaker 2: to New York and I'm like, okay, great, how about
Speaker 2: these days?
Speaker 3: Well I really can't. Oh yeah, she has a good
Speaker 3: she has the want.
Speaker 2: Way.
Speaker 1: Let's go on a trip that me and you were
Speaker 1: the only one I ever truly Yeah the trip
Speaker 3: All right, I got a love,