1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,519 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: app and we're on from one until four, and then 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: after four o'clock you can hear John Cobelt's show on 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,159 Speaker 2: demand on the iHeart app, the podcast version same as 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: the radio show. Today was opening day of Trump's hush 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: money trial, and according to New York Post, at least 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: fifty out of the first ninety six potential jurors got 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: dismissed because they all said, I can't be fair, so 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: they probably wanted out. That's what I would say to 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 2: get out of jury duty, because I don't want to 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: sit through anything. It's like, you know, I'm really biased. 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: Oh I'm terribly biased. I have so much prejudice in me. 14 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: We have Royal Oaks from ABC News, who's going to 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: help us explain the case. I mean, simple version is 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: he paid hush money to Stormy Daniels and another playboy 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: playmate to keep their affairs quiet, and somehow this guy 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: twisted into thirty four felony counts. 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: But that's what Royal is here for. Royal, how are you? 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: I'm doing great, John, And you know a lot of 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: people have kind of wondered, is this really the case 22 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: to start with if you want to lead with your strength. 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 3: It's widely seen among the four criminal cases pending against Trump, 24 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: it's seen as the weakest case legally, and it's seen 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: as the least important case. It's not as big a 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: deal arguably, as you know January sixth and the Georgia stuff, 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 3: or even the mar A Lago document. Now it's here. 28 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: It got filed first, and so here. 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: We are, all right, giving your mistress hush money is 30 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: not illegal. So what specifically did Trump do? It seems 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: like a paperwork crime to me, But what do I know? 32 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: Well, you're absolutely right. So the DA's theory has two parts. 33 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: Part number one is mister Trump committed a misdemeanor. Not 34 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: a huge deal in the art, But you can't falsify 35 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: corporate records. Well how did he falsify the Well, he 36 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: allegedly told Michael Cohen, Look, you're my lawyer, you're my fixer, 37 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: fix this problem. You know, pay Stormy Daniels. A negotiated 38 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: deal with Stormy Daniels, and Cohen gave her one hundred 39 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 3: and thirty grand Well, Cohen, you know he'd love Trump. 40 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 3: But you know he likes to be reimbursed. So the 41 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: next year he got reimbursed. And there's the rub. Every 42 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: time for about ten or eleven months that he would 43 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 3: get a big check from Trumpet would say oh, this 44 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: is for legal fees, and the DA says, ah, that's 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: a lie. You falsified to your New York business records. 46 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 3: Those weren't payments for legal fees. Those were reimbursements to 47 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 3: Michael Cohen, your fixer. Okay. So now they've allegedly got 48 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: him on a misdemeanor, but they don't want a misdemeanor. 49 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: They want a felony. The oracle says, hey, we can 50 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: bump this misdemeanor up to a felony four years in prison. 51 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 3: If the intent of the bad guy Trump was to 52 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: break a second law too, what second law is that? Weirdly, 53 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 3: for months and months now, we haven't gotten a straight 54 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: answer from the DA in New York City as to 55 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 3: which second law Trump allegedly violated. Now, i'd have been 56 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: a federal election campaign law. But that's a problem because 57 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: that would mean the DA would have to hand the 58 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: baton to the federal prosecutors. It could be a state 59 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: a tax issue, could be a state campaign issue. But 60 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 3: that's what's going on. John. What they're saying is that 61 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: Donald Trump really was helping his campaign by paying one 62 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty thousand dollars, not just avoiding embarrassment, not 63 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: just avoiding the silent treatment from Milania for six months, 64 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: but instead it was like a campaign contribution, and that's 65 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: a violation of state law, federal law. Tax They even 66 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 3: say it's a tax law violation because they gave a 67 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: bunch of money to Michael Cohen and he allegedly mislabeled 68 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: it when he felt his tax attorney, he said, oh, 69 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: it's income. It really wasn't income. It was reimbursement for 70 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: what he paid the stormy. So this is basically, in 71 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: a nutshell, what this jury, the poor twelve jurors who 72 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: have to sit through this are going to be listening 73 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: to for six weeks. 74 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: But the federal government didn't bring charges, the state government 75 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: didn't bring charges, the guy er Aske didn't bring charges. 76 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: It was a local Manhattan DA who's bringing these charges. 77 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: Everybody else passed on this case. 78 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: Well, that's right, and it's even worse than that because 79 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: the previous Manhattan DA, Sarah's vance passed on it, and 80 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: this current DA Alvin Bragg passed on it initially when 81 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: he took over the job, but then people started talking 82 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: to him and saying, hey, you know, you're really going 83 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 3: to let Trump off the hook. He changed his mind 84 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 3: and he filed it. So yeah, and now, of course 85 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 3: we have the running battle between Donald Trump and the judge. 86 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: The judge has a daughter who's raised tens of billions 87 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 3: of dollars for Biden and other Democrats, and Trump said, hey, 88 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: you got to accuse yourself, and of course he said no. 89 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: And it's basically a pitched battle between the judge and 90 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: Donald Trump. Well, what's new. In a way, it's bad 91 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: for Trump because you know, the guy who's going to 92 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: be making a bunch of rulings, and a lot of 93 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: them are going to be against him. On the other hand, 94 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: every time Donald Trump gets in debt and every time 95 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 3: there's a munch shout, every time anything happens, who's bad 96 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 3: in a legal system for him? Boom, he gets a 97 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 3: bump in the polls. Who knows that that's going to happen. 98 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 3: Here A big question, of course, John, is will Donald 99 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 3: Trump testify? He says he's going to, but It's a 100 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: huge gamble because remember those those two defamation cases by 101 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: the writer Egian Carroll. The first trial, Donald Trump not 102 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: only doesn't testify, he didn't even show up, and he 103 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: was his five million dollars. The second trial the next year, 104 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: this year, he shows up and he testifies as a 105 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: true slams him for eighty eight million eighty three million. 106 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: So now, you know, is that a sort of a 107 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 3: teachable moment that maybe he shouldn't be testifying. I don't know. 108 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: I don't think the. 109 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: He can never control himself, and a courtroom is where 110 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: they don't put up with any kinds of crap, you know, 111 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: and if he starts spewing out things, he could end 112 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: up inflaming the jury, the judge and ended up with 113 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: contempt of court citations. I mean, you know, if there's 114 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: ever a defendant who probably should keep quiet just for 115 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 2: his own good, it would be him. 116 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 3: Well right, but you know, keeps his own counsel. He 117 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 3: does what he thinks is right, and you know, in 118 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 3: fairness to him, he's been pretty successful over the last 119 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: time doing his his thing. You know. The other thing 120 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 3: that's interesting, John, is that there the judges allowing harassment 121 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 3: evidence the access Hollywood take that everybody's heard about and heard. 122 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: The DA may not play it, but they may refer 123 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: to it. Well, why I mean to show panic in 124 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 3: the campaign over the sex allegations, to prove that the 125 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: Trump paid Stormy not just to avoid embarrassment or an 126 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,799 Speaker 3: angry wife, but to help the campaign. But everybody already 127 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: knows about the access Hollywood. 128 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: Well, I mean the charge the charge is is they 129 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: tried to cover up the reason for the payment, declaring 130 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: it legal fees and instead of you know, a check 131 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: to keep Stormy Daniels quiet, we will know about Well, 132 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: everybody knows what a mistress and a cheating husband does. 133 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 2: I'm just kind of baffled by all this. I mean, 134 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: on the list of crimes in the world, it's really 135 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: scraped to the bottom. Now, how you get thirty four 136 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: felonies on this? I just I don't understand any of this. 137 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: And why doesn't this judge throw out the felonies? 138 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: Well, this judge absolutely is on board with the legitimacy 139 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 3: of the charges because he's been faced with many motions 140 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: by Trump to toss him out on the grounds you 141 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: just specified, and he said no, we're going forward. And 142 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: by the way the thirty four it's kind of weird. 143 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 3: Every ledger entry in the books, every check that was written, 144 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: you know, about ten or eleven checks is a separate 145 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: felony in the mind of Alvin Bragg. But he's not 146 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: trying to get four years times thirty four. My understanding 147 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: is that he's just going for the four years The 148 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: real mystery John is going to be And it's so weird. 149 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: What if Trump is convicted? I mean, the jury the 150 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 3: voters in Manhattan voted eighty eight to twelve for Biden 151 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: over Trump. So this jury pool is not going to 152 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: be friendly to Trump. What is the convict him of 153 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: a felony? You know, the conventional wision months ago was Okay, 154 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: that's it for Donald Trump's campaign. I don't know that 155 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: that's true now. I mean for Trumper Republicans who would 156 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: hold their nose and vote for Trump because they're so 157 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: weirded out by Kamala Harris and Joe Biden and the 158 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: Independents who are inclined to vote for Trump for the 159 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: same reasons. Are they really going to say, oh, who's 160 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 3: convicted in the Stormy Daniel's case he paid hush money 161 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: to a porn start, well, then I'm not going to 162 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: vote for it. Is that really going to happen? So 163 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: maybe not, in which case we may be faced with 164 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: the situation where we get a convicted felon who may 165 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: be ordered to prison, and yet he's winning the presidency 166 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 3: in November. So we're in a real bizarro world situation. 167 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. 168 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: It is just I just find I just find this 169 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 2: case to be so trivial at its core. 170 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: I just so silly. 171 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: I mean, a paperwork issue like this is normally you 172 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: get fined. 173 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, Yeah, no, this is If it weren't Donald Trump, 174 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: you can build a Vegas and bet on it. It 175 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 3: never would have been. 176 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think. I don't think 177 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: this one's going to change a single vote. 178 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: Well, well, we'll know in about six weeks what the 179 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 3: jury verdict is. Six weeks's verdict. 180 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: Six weeks. 181 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: This is going to go on. That's what a bizarre world. 182 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: You're right, all right, hey a Royal Oaks, thank you 183 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: for coming. 184 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: On with us, do you bet? Thank you? 185 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 2: All right, Royal Oaks from ABC on this really strange, 186 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: absurd trial in New York involving Trump. We will have 187 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: more on this coming up. 188 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from kf I 189 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 4: am sixty. 190 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: We just had Royal Oaks on and I think what 191 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 2: Royle said was was right on. I have read extensively 192 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 2: about this case, this Trump case in New York City, 193 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: and this really is a load of horsecrap. You know, 194 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: the other trials or the other trial. I'm talking about 195 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: this one here because he was trying to cover up 196 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: the affair with Stormy Daniels and he sent her money 197 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: through his attorney, Michael Cohen. Now, there's nothing illegal about that. 198 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: You can send your mistress hush money, and I'm sure 199 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: millions of men have. 200 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: You can send the money to keep them quiet. 201 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: You send her money because you promised to take care 202 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: of her, whatever it is. Any American is allowed to 203 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: send money to anybody else for any reason. That's not illegal, 204 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: and it's not illegal to have a mistress. The question is, 205 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: apparently Michael Cohen sent his own money to Stormy Daniels, 206 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: and he wanted to be reimbursed from Trump, and so 207 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 2: Trump sent him, I guess corporate money under the heading 208 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: of legal fees, and it wasn't legal fees. It was 209 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: reimbursement for the hush money. Well, that's that's falsifying business records, 210 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: paperwork error, intentional, but it should be nothing more than 211 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: a fine. Who goes to jail because they put legal 212 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: fees instead of instead of hush money on the corporate ledger. 213 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 2: This is what we got, a federal trial for a 214 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: thirty eight thirty four felony counts because every time he 215 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: wrote something down in the ledger, that's a separate felony. 216 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 2: Now I have to reiterate here. The federal government looked 217 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: at this and said no. State government said no. The 218 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: previous district attorney in Manhattan said no, and even Alvin 219 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: Bragg first time he looked at it, said no. 220 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: The irs said no. That's five nos. 221 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 2: And if you did say yes, it would be for 222 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: a misdemeanor and that would be a fine. And that's it. 223 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: And who knows what kind of nuts they're going to 224 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: get on a jury. Fifty fifty two of the first 225 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: ninety six who were entered they got left all. 226 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: Right, So ninety six came in. 227 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: Fifty of the jurors were let go because they said 228 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: they couldn't be impartial, that they were biased, they couldn't 229 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: be fair. What then, nine more were excused when asked 230 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: if they could not serve for any other reason, like 231 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: they had something better to do, so they were left 232 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 2: with only thirty four of the ninety six. More than 233 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 2: two dozen of the excused were white women. I don't 234 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 2: know why the posts put that in there. I don't 235 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: know that the significance of that is well, I guess 236 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: may mind will even begin to speculate on that sort 237 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: of thing. And some of the jurors were, like, really 238 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: struck by Trump's celebrity. I guess one woman in the 239 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 2: second row giggled and put her hand over her mouth 240 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: while looking at another juror who is sitting there with 241 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: raised eyebrows. And many of the jurors crane their necks. 242 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 2: If they sat in the back road, you got a 243 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 2: better look at Trump once they were seated. 244 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: This really is. 245 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: Something that only goes on in the dirt bag foreign countries. 246 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 2: This is absolutely what you do to political opponents if 247 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: you're in some backwater country without an organized government. So meantime, 248 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 2: and you got the judge's daughter who's apparently raised huge 249 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: amounts of money for Joe Biden and other Democrats. The 250 00:13:55,080 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: judges named one Merchan merchant and six weeks at everybody's. 251 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: Life for this. 252 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: There's really nothing to say. He did it, but it's 253 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: not that serious. It's not an issue anybody would care about. 254 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: I have to believe that there's falsified documents in every 255 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: corporation in America. There must be a line or two 256 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: somewhere that has false, false expenditures or euphemisms put in. 257 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: This is not something anybody would pay attention. This is 258 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: not something anyone's gonna care about. I mean, the only 259 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: significance really is I guess the theory theoretically has a 260 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: threat of going to jail. Can you imagine going Can 261 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: you imagine all mayhem going on in New York? And 262 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: I've got some mayhem to tell you about later in 263 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: the show. There's a lot of mayhem going into New York, 264 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: much of it with the leagual aliens. 265 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: But they're gonna put Trump in. 266 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: Jail because he falsified a document over his mistress's huch money. 267 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 2: You know, this is so absurd, you couldn't make the 268 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: stuff up. All Right, we come back, We're gonna have 269 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: Blake trolley on. Let's see if crimes like this are 270 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: going to get prosecuted well, first of all, they'd have 271 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: to get an arrest. It looks like there's a there's 272 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: a story called Into the Retroverse and it's a novelty 273 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: gaming shop. And for the third time they had people 274 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: bust in and they were filling the bag with stolen merchandise. 275 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: They ended up running off of three thousand to five 276 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: thousand dollars worth of Pokemon cards. Pokemon cards, they weren't 277 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: that much. Good Lord, I should have saved my kids 278 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: Pokemon cards. That sounds like a college account. Anyway. The 279 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: employees tried to beat the gunman up. They didn't know 280 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: he had it Gune until he finally pulled it out 281 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: after he was on the floor. Blake's gonna explain all 282 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: this when we come back. 283 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobel's on Demand from kf I 284 00:15:59,240 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 4: Am six four. 285 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: We're on the radio from one until four after four 286 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: o'clock John Cobel Show on Demand, the podcast version same 287 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: as the radio show. Moistline, start calling in. Let's hear it. 288 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: It was a good one last Friday. A lot of 289 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: people discontented with the world eight seven seven Moist eighty six, 290 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: eight seven seven moist eighty six. You can't spell out 291 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: moist it's eight seven seven six six four seven eight 292 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: eight six or use a talkback feature on that all 293 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: purpose iHeartRadio app. Coming up after two o'clock, we're going 294 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: to talk with Josh Hoover, and Josh is gonna talk 295 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: with us. He wrote a piece for the Sacramento b 296 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 2: and something that we discussed, and we're gonna keep talking 297 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: about this for a long time. California, it is true, 298 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: has spent billions of dollars on homelessness, twenty four billion 299 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: dollars just the state itself. Then you could add what 300 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: La County and La City is spending on, and homelessness 301 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: has increased by every measure. So it's a complete utter failure. 302 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: Where has the money gone? Nobody can tell you. Nobody 303 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 2: knows where it's gone, Nobody can account for it. And 304 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: Josh Hoover is going to talk with us. Coming up, 305 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: all right, let's get to Blake Trolley from KFI News 306 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 2: out in Colton, which is a town if you don't know. 307 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 2: It's way down the two ten north of Riverside in 308 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 2: San Borndardino County. And there's this store called into the Retroverse, 309 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 2: which is a gaming store and somebody came in and uh, well, 310 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: I got a huge fight with the employees and eventually 311 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: ran out with thousands of dollars worth of Pokemon cards 312 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: of all things. I don't understand any of this. Let's 313 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: let's get Blake Trolley on to talk more. 314 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: Blake. 315 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, John. 316 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 5: This is another example of small business people really fighting 317 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 5: back as they have to protect their product a lot more, 318 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 5: or at least they feel like they have to protect 319 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 5: their product a lot more than these big box stores 320 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 5: that can take on the losses. So last Friday night, 321 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 5: a few guys were working at into the retrovers. So 322 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 5: what they do is they play cards. This place sells 323 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 5: trading cards, so they play cards. They try to set 324 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,479 Speaker 5: a vibe in the room. So these guys were playing 325 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 5: cards when this thief walked in, goes behind the counter. 326 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: He's got a backpack. 327 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 5: I don't know if you've seen the video, John, but 328 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 5: he's got a backpack actually on reverse, so it's like 329 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 5: on his stomach, almost like he's wearing it like a baby. 330 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 5: So he can just start loading products straight into the 331 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 5: backpack as he grabs it off the shelves. Well, the 332 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 5: employees see this, they confront the guy They tell him 333 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 5: to stop, and he won't, so one of the employees 334 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 5: pushes the shelf into him. This is the shelf he's 335 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 5: loading stuff out of. Keep in mind he's on the 336 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 5: side the employee now would be on the thief is 337 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 5: where the employee would be behind the counter, So he 338 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 5: pushes the counter into the thief. The thief continues. Now 339 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 5: if a couple of the guys, two of the store 340 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 5: employees start beating the thief up trying to stop him. 341 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 5: One of them puts a couple of blows in u 342 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 5: and one of them pulls the thief to the ground. Well, 343 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 5: once the thief hits the ground and feels like he's 344 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 5: got no shot at winning this fight, he pulls out 345 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 5: a gun and starts threatening the store employees, and they 346 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 5: very quickly back off. The dynamic really changes. Take a 347 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 5: listen to some of this security footage. 348 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: Boom so you hear him. 349 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 5: He's asking all the employees for their phones. He takes 350 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 5: their phones. He has the employees laid down, and then 351 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 5: he continues to finish the job. He loads his bag 352 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 5: up with the Pokemon stuff and he takes off out 353 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 5: of the door. And right now the owner of the 354 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 5: store Jovon Bernhall told me this morning he thinks the 355 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 5: guy took off with you saw that quote three to 356 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 5: five thousand dollars. It sounds like they think it's right 357 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 5: in the middle, four thousand dollars for the stuff. 358 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 359 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I've been watching it and he's a 360 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 2: bald headed goon dressed in black, and he walked in 361 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 2: like he was the manager, like he owned the place. 362 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 2: I mean, there was no trepidation at all. He didn't 363 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: just hang out to survey the scene. He just walked 364 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 2: right in, got behind one of those glass counters and 365 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 2: started taking things. 366 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, and Berntle one of the things he told me 367 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 5: that he criticized about this guy is that when his 368 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 5: employees kept trying to stop him, he kept saying, I 369 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 5: need the money. I need the money to justify what 370 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 5: he was doing. But John, Yeah, this has been a 371 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 5: really big setback for this store. You know, this store 372 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 5: only opened seven months ago, and I spoke with Bernal 373 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 5: this morning again and he told me that this store 374 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 5: has been hit three times by thieves in the last 375 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 5: seven months. 376 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: Take a listen to this. 377 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 6: We've only been opened seven months. To go for anybody 378 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 6: who tries to find us. We don't even have our 379 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 6: own sign, like professional sign yet because a sign cost 380 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 6: us four thousand dollars. We do not have that kind 381 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 6: of money. Again, we are not Game Stop, so we 382 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 6: had to choose merchandise or a sign, and we've already 383 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 6: been hit that many times. 384 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 5: And on top of that, this latest theft is a 385 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 5: huge setback for these guys. That sign costs four thousand dollars. 386 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 5: You just heard him say, right, four thousand dollars of 387 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 5: product just walked out the door. And that is product 388 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 5: that Bernald's telling me he's going to have to replace 389 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 5: out of pocket because insurance companies aren't going to give 390 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 5: him any money unless the theft amount is above ten 391 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 5: thousand dollars, is what he was telling me this morning. 392 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 5: So a personal blow to this guy's this guy's wallet. 393 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: And this is located on in a business district on 394 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: a street. 395 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's in a little strip mall. There's like a 396 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 5: donut shop in there. There was a Wiener Schnitzel across 397 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 5: the street. I believe there was like, you know a 398 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 5: couple of nail salons things like that. Think of a 399 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 5: real classic Inland Empire, a little strip mall. This guy's 400 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 5: thirty one years old. It sounds like him and some 401 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 5: guys he knows, we're fanatics about this stuff. And they 402 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 5: started this store out of passion. 403 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 2: It's hard to a business in California when they don't 404 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: throw these these thugs in prison. Yeah, I don't think 405 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: this is the first day that the suspect has stolen things. 406 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: I mean, odds are he's got a record, and ods 407 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: are he didn't get much time, if any, for whatever 408 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: he did in the past. And is calton't have a 409 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: police department or do they are they get the San 410 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 2: Berardino Sheriffs. 411 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 5: Colton does have its own police department, So yeah, this one, 412 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 5: this one is with police. 413 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 3: Now. 414 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 5: One of the things I do want to point out here, John, 415 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 5: when it comes to this this entire you know case, 416 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 5: and just what you said there that about this guy 417 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 5: possibly returning. I know in the past they were getting 418 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 5: hit by a guy. There was a guy that was 419 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 5: showing up to the store. Apparently it sounds like he 420 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 5: was paying attention to when these guys weren't going to 421 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 5: be around. So these guys actually learned to stop putting 422 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 5: on social media that they were going to conventions and 423 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 5: you know, trading card events because they would announce it 424 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 5: on social media, Hey we're going to be at this event, 425 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 5: and then. 426 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: Their store would get hit. 427 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 5: Well, what one of his employees said, listen, I think 428 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 5: the same guy is going to target us on Christmas Eve. 429 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,719 Speaker 5: He knows we're not going to be open for the holidays. 430 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 5: And the owner of the store said, no, man, go home, 431 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 5: be with your family. You know, it's not worth it. 432 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 5: The guy shows back up, and the guy showed the 433 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 5: employee shows up, and the thief did attempt to break. 434 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: In that day. 435 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they do. And I don't know, you 436 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 2: can't really open the business. I mean unless you have 437 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: the capital to invest in a really sophisticated security system, 438 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: and that might not not even stop them, because if 439 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: you have these valuable trading cards, it's like having jewelry. 440 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 2: In these cases, it's thousands of dollars. It's like busting 441 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 2: in and grabbing watches or rings or diamonds or whatever. 442 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: So I that's just that's terrible. But this this life 443 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 2: in California, because nobody wants to stop it. 444 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 5: I do want to play a little bit of audio here, John, 445 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 5: I mean, this guy is is saying, you know, it's 446 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 5: time for things to change, especially with police. It sounds 447 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 5: like police aren't able to act, you know, to spite 448 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 5: him handing over some information. Listen to this. 449 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 6: Loosen up on the police in the in the sense 450 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 6: of police are telling me, well, you know we can't 451 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 6: we will go meet you and then what we need 452 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 6: to get evidence. I'm like, you have video, we have 453 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 6: this guy, we have this guy's face. So if it's 454 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 6: either that or we need as star owners, we need 455 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 6: to be allowed to say, you know what, defen get. 456 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 6: We have the right to stand our ground and if 457 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,959 Speaker 6: we get guns and if someone gets shot, that's not 458 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 6: on us. We have we as you can see, we 459 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 6: do have cameras, we have motion sensors, we have security cameras. 460 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 6: What else can we do other than you know, have 461 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 6: guns inside the store. And now we're talking that at 462 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 6: this point, having guns in a store can open up 463 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 6: a whole new can of worms because the way law 464 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 6: the laws are based where they're not here to protect us. 465 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: Do you really think should. 466 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 6: We really believe that if we were to kill a robber, 467 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 6: they're gonna protect us and say, you know what, you 468 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 6: guys were just defending yourself or no, chances are instead, 469 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 6: we're gonna come down because it's gonna give us something stupid, like, well, 470 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 6: you should have told him four times, please don't do this, 471 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 6: Please don't do this. 472 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 5: Guy's right that sentiment. I'm told it's pretty common with 473 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 5: store owners. They're weighing having a gun in their store, 474 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 5: but they don't want the liability of time I use it. 475 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 2: I don't know what else they could do other than 476 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: have a gun and risk a shootout then being have 477 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 2: the risk of being blamed for it. People have to 478 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: vote differently. You vote for all these progressives. This is 479 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 2: a progressive world. It's it's lawless, it's anybody can do 480 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 2: anything at any time, and you get screwed for defending yourself. 481 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: That's a progressive world. That's what people voted for. And 482 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: I wouldn't even bother to open a store like that. 483 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 2: In a state like California, there's no point to it. 484 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: There's nobody on your side. Nobody's in government's on your side. 485 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: None of the legislators are not the mayor of the 486 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: city council, the Assembly, the state Senate, the governor, none 487 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: of them. They don't care if you go out of business. 488 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: They don't care if you get killed, it doesn't matter 489 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 2: to them. You care about your store way more than 490 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: anybody else in government does. That's why they don't protect it. 491 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 2: They have no interest in it. All right, Blake, thanks 492 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: very much, all right, thanks John, thanks for coming on. 493 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: They don't and we're all raised to be like little children. Oh, 494 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: the government's gonna protect us. Oh, yes, Mommy and Daddy 495 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: are gonna come and they're gonna take care of the 496 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 2: bad guys. No, they don't come and take care of 497 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: the bad guys. 498 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:13,239 Speaker 1: Now. 499 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: The police don't even bother, you know. Now, the you know, 500 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 2: the district attorneys don't even bother. There's no prosecution, there's 501 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 2: no jail, there's no nothing. So can't have a business, 502 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 2: you just can't, can't live here. And it's because of 503 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: everybody bought into this progressive sickness. And that's what it is. 504 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: It is a it is an illness. It's a mental 505 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: illness where people feel that they have to embrace all 506 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 2: the bad guys and all the horrible things they do, 507 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: and nobody can be punished anymore. That word punishment is 508 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: not even heard anymore. No, everyone's afraid. Everyone's embarrassed to 509 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: say that. You say you know what that guy ought 510 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: to be punished? Like, what punished? What century are you from? 511 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: All right? You got more coming up. 512 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 513 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 4: six forty. 514 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: Coming up after two o'clock, we're going to talk with 515 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: Republican assembly Men Josh Hoover from falsehom and he wrote 516 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: a piece in the Sacramento b about the billions of 517 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: dollars California spent on homelessness. The state order to release 518 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: a report saying we've blown twenty four billion dollars over 519 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: the last few years, and the homelessness population has increased 520 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: by fifty three percent in the last decade. Twenty four 521 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: billion dollars, fifty three percent increase. And the real damning 522 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 2: issue is they can't tell you where it went. They 523 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 2: can't tell you why it was ineffective because there they 524 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: don't have a clue as to what the money was 525 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: spent on. 526 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: It's just complete corruption. 527 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 2: And we'll talk about that after two o'clock. Speaking to corruption, 528 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: the city of Los Angeles has a big deficit. And 529 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: what do you do when you have a big deficit? 530 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: Give everybody a raise, Give all those loser city workers 531 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 2: more money, more benefits, tens of thousands of city workers, 532 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 2: they got raises and benefit increases, and now it's going 533 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 2: to add three hundred and sixteen million dollars to the 534 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: city budget in the next year, and by twenty twenty 535 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: eight it's going to cost more than a billion dollars. 536 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: The thing is, this was already done about fifteen years 537 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 2: ago when Tony Vallar gave massive raises to the unions. 538 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: Next thing, you know, the city of Los Angeles was 539 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: basically bankrupt. 540 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: It always happens. 541 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: New mayor comes in and the first thing they do 542 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: is they want to repay all the campaign support, all 543 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: the campaign money that the unions gave them. Everybody gets raises, 544 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: everybody gets more benefits, and step two is, oh, jeez, 545 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 2: we're bankrupt. 546 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: We're going to go out of business. Here. 547 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: In fact, over a five year timeframe from twenty twenty 548 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: four to twenty twenty eight, the contracts are going to 549 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: add three and a half billion dollars in new employee costs, 550 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: three and a half billion dollars money that nobody has, 551 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: which is why they're looking at not filling two thousand jobs. 552 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 3: Now. 553 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if the two thousand vacant positions in 554 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: the city. I don't know if those people ever did anything. 555 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it's vacant. Looks like they didn't try to 556 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: fill those jobs anyway, So maybe they're not necessary. And 557 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 2: I don't know what the other what is it? Thirty 558 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: three thousand people do thirty three thousand city workers covered 559 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: by these contracts. Apparently none of them fill potholes for 560 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: a living. I mean, thirty three thousand people, not one 561 00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: of them knows how to work a shovel. In fact, 562 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: who is this spokes hoole for Karen Bess zach Sidell says, 563 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: when we talk about responding to the homelessness crisis, filling potholes, 564 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: keeping our city safe, they're not possible to do if 565 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: we don't pay our workers. Well, you've paid our you've 566 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 2: paid the workers, and we still have massive homelessness, a 567 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: huge number of potholes that are unfilled, and the city's 568 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: not safe. And the budget is thirteen billion a year, 569 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: thirteen billion a year for an unsafe city, tens of 570 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: thousands of homeless and thousands of potholes. So I don't 571 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 2: know how paying them all this extra money and giving 572 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: them more benefits is going to make a difference, because 573 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: nobody's doing the job already. We come back, we're going 574 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: to talk, as I said, with Josh Houver. He's the 575 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: Republican Assemblyman from Fulsom. He wrote a piece for the 576 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: Sacramento b and it's centering on the state auditor who said, 577 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: we've twenty four billion dollars in the last six years 578 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: and homelessness has grown tremendously. White Sacramento homelessness went up 579 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: sixty seven percent in five years. So what is all 580 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: this tax money? What's it all going for? Twenty four 581 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 2: billion dollars in tax money on homelessness, massive increases. We'll 582 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: get to that coming up, and we've got Ashley Johnson 583 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: live in the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've 584 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can 585 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: always hear the show live on KFI Am six forty 586 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 2: from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, and 587 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 2: of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.