Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to another edition of Nerdificent. I'm one half
Speaker 1: of your host, Janny Fernandez. Sitting across from me as
Speaker 1: always is if you want to how's everybody doing. Your
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Speaker 1: McShane was wearing it, and I was like, oh, that
Speaker 1: shirt should say big Death Energy, and um he tweeted
Speaker 1: that I said that, and then the guy was like hmm,
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Speaker 1: getting that? No? I didn't because I like backed out
Speaker 1: when back when Musk was being all crappy and I
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Speaker 1: is Hector NAVARROH my gosh, thank you guys so much
Speaker 1: for having me back. It was so much fun to
Speaker 1: come and do that first episode. And I just want
Speaker 1: to give a personal shout out to my hero, stand
Speaker 1: up comedian Tony Baker. Tony, if you're listening, yeah, and
Speaker 1: he told me that you liked that episode. I just
Speaker 1: want to say, I'm a fan. Man, You're awesome. Hit
Speaker 1: me up, come on do one of my shows. And
Speaker 1: she had about stuff. Yeah, Tony Baker is great. If
Speaker 1: you guys aren't following Tony Baker comedy, follow him, get
Speaker 1: a stand up special, get at him because he's gonna
Speaker 1: blow up. I just gave him total free promotion because
Speaker 1: he's the best. So yeah. He's also the film It's
Speaker 1: a Partying that features yours truly. They all star studded
Speaker 1: cast lots of members of white women. It was written
Speaker 1: by white women's own Lamar Woods. Very excited, uh for
Speaker 1: for you to see that, if you decide to see it.
Speaker 1: We were just talking about you the other day, if
Speaker 1: because my friend Marina Mastress came over and we watched
Speaker 1: a movie and we were talking about the good old days,
Speaker 1: old house party. Yeah. I literally was on stream talking
Speaker 1: about how I threw up on that snake. The energy
Speaker 1: energy in the ether, Yeah, the ether, one of the
Speaker 1: Infinity stones. God, you just can't get away from it. Wait, Hector,
Speaker 1: can you tell people what I'm wearing yet? Dope? This
Speaker 1: this super dope. You're wearing a dragon ball Z like
Speaker 1: really cool design sweatshirt thing. It's got cool like Japanese
Speaker 1: like lettering, like comic book lettering, manga lettering on the sides,
Speaker 1: and the design with all the character you got Goku
Speaker 1: flying at you go Han vegeta krillin piccolo. But then
Speaker 1: like the thing around it looks kind of very eighties
Speaker 1: and almost like a wrestling ring. Yeah, I notice, but
Speaker 1: it's not. But it's cool. I believe that. Is that
Speaker 1: a sweater? Is that a long sleeve T shirt? It's
Speaker 1: a long sleeve shirt. Yeah, but they have sent me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a couple of I have a Badman one
Speaker 1: of Vegeta. My friends at Fundimation hooked me up. You
Speaker 1: know it's awesome. Um, Hector, what are you seeking out
Speaker 1: about this way? I'm geaking out about a directive video
Speaker 1: movie that just came out on Blu Ray, but it's
Speaker 1: also been out on digital for a little bit, and
Speaker 1: they just put it on today. They put it on
Speaker 1: DC Universe as well. I'm talking about a cartoon movie
Speaker 1: by Bruce tim and the Gang superhero DC movie called
Speaker 1: Justice League Versus the Fatal Five. I watched it. I
Speaker 1: dug it. It was like a reunion. A bunch of
Speaker 1: great voice actors came back. Kevin Conroy was Batman, Susan
Speaker 1: Eisenberg was wonder Woman, George Newburne was Superman. These are
Speaker 1: the characters and actors that were in the Justice League
Speaker 1: cartoon show that I remember growing up. A bunch of
Speaker 1: new great characters. Mr. Terrifics in it. MS Martian, Jessica Cruz,
Speaker 1: Green Lantern and it's her movie and it's awesome. Yeah
Speaker 1: that on my Instagram. I dug it, So watch it
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it yet. And I was also
Speaker 1: really happy that um I was on one of the
Speaker 1: special features. They asked me to come in and talk
Speaker 1: about representation and superhero stories and and a lot of
Speaker 1: what I talked about ended up in this little special feature,
Speaker 1: and it like got me really emotional because I was like,
Speaker 1: I grew up on this stuff. I talked about John
Speaker 1: Stewart Green Lantern from Justice League. I talked about writer
Speaker 1: Dwayne McDuffie and his work. I talked about why representation
Speaker 1: matters and stuff like that. So that's what I'm geeking
Speaker 1: out about. I went and bought the Blu Ray so stoked.
Speaker 1: I think they were also on Talking Tunes, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well that was like the all of the o G
Speaker 1: Justice League cast, which included like Phil Lamar, like uh
Speaker 1: uh Rosenbaum who does a flash like they all came back.
Speaker 1: But that's this is not fully formed reunion, not yet,
Speaker 1: but some of the main people came and reprised their
Speaker 1: roles and hopefully this thing gets enough traction where like
Speaker 1: Warner Bro There's and the Powers that Be can be like,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's let's bring everybody back and let's
Speaker 1: do let's do like a new show or like a
Speaker 1: new movie or something. People fans have been gunning for
Speaker 1: that for years. Jail reunion hashtag jail reunion. Yeah, that'd
Speaker 1: be nice. That would be nice. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people. That's one thing I will always give to
Speaker 1: d C. I feel like, you know, I give them
Speaker 1: a lot of crap on their cinematic universe. Animation. Animation
Speaker 1: has always been listen so on point. We're talking about
Speaker 1: the m CU tonight, but I will go on record
Speaker 1: saying right now, the greatest shared universe of all time
Speaker 1: in pop culture history is the DC animated universe that
Speaker 1: started from Batman the animated series, going all the way
Speaker 1: to Justice League Unlimited and now kind of including this
Speaker 1: movie is still the best. They kind of did it first.
Speaker 1: There's so much good stuff in there. I'll go on
Speaker 1: record saying that. But I love the m c U
Speaker 1: Man animation. It's not just because I'm a company boy,
Speaker 1: because because it's so funny, because you're kind of locked in,
Speaker 1: but like it's like people will be like, Hector hates
Speaker 1: d C. Hector loves DC. Hector I'm sure I have
Speaker 1: to remembers because he got a lot of hate as
Speaker 1: soon as he got hired. I remember that. I think
Speaker 1: I had to send a check in text like you good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, man, thank you so much. Because
Speaker 1: I have most of those fools blocks. So when people
Speaker 1: are like you are you okay? I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: literally not seeing what you're just having like the best day.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're like, hey, I was just announced as
Speaker 1: a host, and we're like, okay, over there, keep doing
Speaker 1: there's real ugly stuff being said about you. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, okay things, Yeah, I can't see it
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think what I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about as as of today, April six, it's you know,
Speaker 1: checking in on that day. No, it's we're in the future.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but I'm saying as of today. So people
Speaker 1: are like, why if he talking about this that was
Speaker 1: last week, but as of today, the PS five, you know,
Speaker 1: Sony came out and like dropped some info about what's
Speaker 1: gonna come with it. We're we're talking, you know. They
Speaker 1: the big I think with the coolest things that they
Speaker 1: had was was ray tracing. That's that's gonna be a
Speaker 1: big thing, which if you're not aware of what ray
Speaker 1: tracing is, it's a it's basically a rendering technique for
Speaker 1: generating an image, and you're tracing the path of light
Speaker 1: as pixels in an image plane and simulating the effects
Speaker 1: of its encounters with virtual objects, so it comes out
Speaker 1: way smoother, way cleaner. And this is something that was
Speaker 1: actually recently introduced with the rt X cards that g
Speaker 1: fource dropped. So in another space, Uh, consoles are finally
Speaker 1: getting what PC player has been thanking. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: still cool because one of the things I you know,
Speaker 1: when you do the math, it's always going to be
Speaker 1: cheaper to snack a console than to buy a PC.
Speaker 1: I will always champion that and say it's worth it
Speaker 1: in the end. And I think one of the other
Speaker 1: ways the big ways you save money in PC gaming
Speaker 1: that you is when you buy stuff on console. If
Speaker 1: you buy it in the console store, the prices rarely
Speaker 1: change if you go to game stop even buying it used,
Speaker 1: it's not that much of a difference, where like what
Speaker 1: Steam you have Steam sales where you're getting like triple
Speaker 1: A games for almost like five bucks regularly. It's an
Speaker 1: annual thing two times a year, the Steam the summer sale,
Speaker 1: the Winter sale, so you make that money back in
Speaker 1: the long haul, and everyone knows both console peasants and
Speaker 1: PC master race people agree it looks way better because
Speaker 1: you can crank that thing up. It does call the
Speaker 1: nickname for console people is console peasants. Who created that nickname? PC? Right? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna change every now it's actually console badasses,
Speaker 1: Console badasses. But that's cool. That's cool. Yeah, So anyway,
Speaker 1: so even console peasants can that. But no, but there's
Speaker 1: a lot of cool things they're adding to this that
Speaker 1: gets me excited just because I like the idea of
Speaker 1: just the advancement of consoles. Because even though I'm on
Speaker 1: PC now, that's where I started, and that's where a
Speaker 1: lot of kids are going to start, you know, not
Speaker 1: that many people are lucky to have parents who are
Speaker 1: gonna build them tricked out PCs, not to mention be
Speaker 1: able to build the PCs. So I'm always excited for advancement.
Speaker 1: And you're also going to get solid state drives, which
Speaker 1: is a kind of faster than a hard disk drive,
Speaker 1: way faster, so the load times should be out of
Speaker 1: this world. And it's going to have a custom a
Speaker 1: m D rising uh CPU, which everyone's excited about. But
Speaker 1: I'm still an Intel fanboy and think you could have
Speaker 1: just kind of tweaked that and got a little more
Speaker 1: out of it. But Rising is nothing to mess with,
Speaker 1: and the next gen is about to drop this year,
Speaker 1: so we'll see what's gonna pop when that pops. Okay,
Speaker 1: the thing that I am geeking out about is this
Speaker 1: past week we had Star Wars celebration, which was so
Speaker 1: dope to see so many fans excited. There were two
Speaker 1: huge moments. I mean, there's so many things that happened,
Speaker 1: but there were two huge moments that really stuck out
Speaker 1: for me. One was when Kelly Marie Tran was announced
Speaker 1: and everybody was chanting Kelly, Kelly, Kelly. It was so great.
Speaker 1: I mean, for someone that had to delete her social
Speaker 1: media due to the amount of abuse that she was receiving,
Speaker 1: to just have all of these fans, you know, that
Speaker 1: really outnumbered. That was just so beautiful. Um Our friend
Speaker 1: h if your friend Christopher Smith Bryant, who was on
Speaker 1: our lgbt Q episode, is like best friends with Kelly,
Speaker 1: and like, I know that he like sends her stuff
Speaker 1: because she's not on social media, so that's nice. I'm
Speaker 1: sure her other friends do too, because me and uh Hector,
Speaker 1: we're always she was deep in the improv community. She
Speaker 1: was so after white women came out, and you know,
Speaker 1: I feel very confident uh speaking this because it's true
Speaker 1: as hell. After white women came out, there were a
Speaker 1: lot of all blank you know, thank you so much,
Speaker 1: and we were very happy about yeah. Yeah. So then
Speaker 1: that's how you had Heraldough, you had um and then
Speaker 1: the team she was on was yellow either and so
Speaker 1: it was an all Asian team, and then you had Essence,
Speaker 1: which was the all black women team. Uh, and so
Speaker 1: like that's that's how we knew her. So it was
Speaker 1: funny though, because it's always interesting when you see something
Speaker 1: from a comedy side, because she was just kind of
Speaker 1: like on her grind outside of comedy, but you're just like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's she's you know, so it really did. It was
Speaker 1: like seeing her at a impromp show and then she
Speaker 1: liked stars. Yeah. It was insane, Yeah, it was. It
Speaker 1: was crazy. But always I emailed her after the like
Speaker 1: whole like Onslaught thing, and she was like she was
Speaker 1: like like it was days later. So I was like,
Speaker 1: she must be getting emails from everyone, and she was like,
Speaker 1: thank you, you've always been great. Uh uh, tell everyone
Speaker 1: on their difficent to buy your comedy album, Like that's
Speaker 1: what she said, exactly, That's exactly what she said. It
Speaker 1: was so it was so great seeing her in all
Speaker 1: of her glory at Star Wars celebration. And then another
Speaker 1: thing that happened this week is that I don't know
Speaker 1: if you saw this, but um, a guy that goes
Speaker 1: by the name the Eric Butts, who is a YouTuber. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he posted his reaction to watching the new trailer
Speaker 1: where he was crying and everybody was really not everybody,
Speaker 1: but there were some people that were that had big
Speaker 1: accounts that were like making fun of him and being
Speaker 1: like this is so cringe eer like wow, um, you
Speaker 1: know it seemed like it was one yeah Republican, right lord?
Speaker 1: Is that the right? Yeah? Essentially that was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: being I can't say, we can't say, I can't say
Speaker 1: what I want to say because we're censored. But anyways,
Speaker 1: and so and that to me was so horrible, Like
Speaker 1: I wrote him back and I just said, you know,
Speaker 1: there's so much pain and horror in the world that
Speaker 1: like to be excited about anything anymore is a joy.
Speaker 1: And like we grew up with these fandoms, they mean
Speaker 1: so much to us. They literally shaped my career. I
Speaker 1: know they shaped everyone's career that's in here, and including his.
Speaker 1: So I said, like, keep being passionate. You know his
Speaker 1: emotions were beautiful and that we outweigh the bad and
Speaker 1: we always will. Um. So, I just I hate that
Speaker 1: that is when people say, like like toxic masculinity, that
Speaker 1: it's like such a thing that people hate that word.
Speaker 1: Apparently that really triggers them, but for me, it's like, no,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what you that can't handle Seeing a man
Speaker 1: cry is disturbing, Like you're disturbing not or even to
Speaker 1: put to put other stuff like politics or sports or
Speaker 1: whatever above like movies and comic books. Do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? That's also toxic masculiness to be like
Speaker 1: you're into comic books, you should be into this because
Speaker 1: you're a man or whatever. Like that's like that he's
Speaker 1: not allowed to express himself and his emotions for something
Speaker 1: that he grew up with. So anyways, I thought it
Speaker 1: was really beautiful and like Mark Hamill tweeted at him
Speaker 1: and oh yeah, I was like Mark Cambell was like,
Speaker 1: I don't understand why you would make fun of this
Speaker 1: guy who is like clearly passionate about this. Um, it's
Speaker 1: so great? Is everybody responding to her? She's her like
Speaker 1: tweet has like, oh she's gotten what the kids called
Speaker 1: ratio ratio great? Yeah, and know here's my quick bounce
Speaker 1: on that before we just jump into this because this
Speaker 1: is probably gonna be a long one. But I think
Speaker 1: that was an important thing. I don't think there's anyone
Speaker 1: should be bad about it. That's exactly what toxic masculinity
Speaker 1: is and what everyone wants to complain about, not at
Speaker 1: the appropriate time where this is the appropriate time to
Speaker 1: talk about this stuff, which is simply like you know,
Speaker 1: just even it removes Star Wars, remove anything like having
Speaker 1: just a man being able to be emotional, emotional enough
Speaker 1: to cry. It always seems like an issue and it's
Speaker 1: always like, oh, why why are you gonna cry? And
Speaker 1: that's uh, that's that's it. That is, you know, without
Speaker 1: sounding too extreme, it is trying to pin up those
Speaker 1: emotions in this fake idea that you can't cry is
Speaker 1: what drives people crazy and make them kill people because
Speaker 1: you don't allow them too healthy to express their emotions
Speaker 1: in a healthy way. Eventually it comes out in an
Speaker 1: unhealthy way, and so chill is all that people can't see.
Speaker 1: But Hector has I was just gonna say, Danny, can
Speaker 1: you describe what? Yes? Okay? Um, So Hector actually has
Speaker 1: flash cards like trading cards, trading cards of every character.
Speaker 1: I kid you, not every character that has ever appeared
Speaker 1: in the m c U, including side people that got
Speaker 1: killed in three seconds. Um, They're all here and he
Speaker 1: is placing them all out right now on our large desk. Um,
Speaker 1: so this is we have the ancient one I'm trying
Speaker 1: to look for, like a in the Alexander heres deceased.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and he has decimated next to Peter Parker. Um.
Speaker 1: That is that what we're calling the destin. That's what
Speaker 1: Marvel's calling it is the decimation. Okay, well let's take
Speaker 1: a quick second before we jump into this. There's two
Speaker 1: things I want to do. First up top. You might
Speaker 1: be listening as wondering is this like another recap? It
Speaker 1: is like no, this is more of a hype episode
Speaker 1: as of right now this Friday. Mark. Well, I will
Speaker 1: um as you're listening to this, I saw it last
Speaker 1: night at the premiere in Case I died, And this
Speaker 1: is the last recording of my voice. I did I
Speaker 1: did die out on top. So as of right now,
Speaker 1: this Friday End game is coming out and this is
Speaker 1: just us kind of talking about our favorite moments. Really
Speaker 1: just a hype episode, as you know, you know, you
Speaker 1: don't need a structure to everything. That's you know, that's
Speaker 1: that's that's what what fascist one? Uh true? This is
Speaker 1: just a pure hype episode and also just to catch
Speaker 1: up and what better way. This is the perfect way
Speaker 1: to book in the last episode we did where we
Speaker 1: did run through each m c U. However, there were
Speaker 1: two movies that happened between the last episode We Have
Speaker 1: You and now, so before we even jump into our
Speaker 1: favorite moments, let's kind of talk about what happened and
Speaker 1: how we felt about them because because because because we're
Speaker 1: counting Infinity War two, because I guess, yeah, we didn't
Speaker 1: talk about it, so three movies between that. So after
Speaker 1: our episode, Infinity War came out and that this was
Speaker 1: It's funny because I feel like everyone at this table
Speaker 1: had strong emotions about it. I were we in the
Speaker 1: did we watch it together? Danny? I think we watched
Speaker 1: it together. Yeah, yeah, you watched it before me and
Speaker 1: then again with I feel like I invited I have
Speaker 1: invited you to like every premiere, but you were you
Speaker 1: like had rooms you were writing it. Yeayeah, I know
Speaker 1: I was busy. I'm not I'm not. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to blast you or anything. I was just about asking.
Speaker 1: So I remember that movie was a wild ride that
Speaker 1: the Infinity War was the morning I think about. It
Speaker 1: was such a wild ride and everything it introduced, I
Speaker 1: feel like it did flawlessly, and just the ending, even
Speaker 1: though you kind of felt something like that, like I
Speaker 1: didn't know the decimation was going to happen, but I
Speaker 1: knew something that would be such a huge cliff anger
Speaker 1: since they was gonna be two parts, was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: And it happened, and even the way it happened kind
Speaker 1: of just shook everything up because they really did get
Speaker 1: us that you hit us with the debate there, because
Speaker 1: you get fans getting axed and we're like, oh, we
Speaker 1: actually did do it or did it yeah? And then
Speaker 1: it was like gotcha, snappy snap. It was, um, that
Speaker 1: movie is amazing and it's such a fun like and
Speaker 1: then at the end gets depressing, but it's still such
Speaker 1: a fun ride, is how you put it. I think
Speaker 1: it's a perfect way to describe it, if because it's
Speaker 1: just like it's just a huge victory lab for Marvel.
Speaker 1: It's just them going look at ten years of characters
Speaker 1: that we built up that like, you care about a
Speaker 1: talking raccoon, you care about Ok, yeah, you just met
Speaker 1: her in the last movie. You just met and Baku
Speaker 1: in the last movie. You're gonna be stoked to see
Speaker 1: him show up, you know, on the field. And and
Speaker 1: it was it handled, It juggled characters and storylines so well.
Speaker 1: It carried over tones from from previous movies like flor Ragrock,
Speaker 1: which you finally got around to scene and you did
Speaker 1: you dig it? Yeah? Of course great. So like that
Speaker 1: that tay t t sort of version of Thoor pretty
Speaker 1: much carried through into Infinity War. But it was also
Speaker 1: still like the Mighty like it. Not that Ragnock Thor
Speaker 1: is any different, but this was like that Thor and
Speaker 1: then all of his family gets killed at the beginning,
Speaker 1: and now now what are the stakes and what does
Speaker 1: he have to deal with? Um? And it was um
Speaker 1: it was mind blowing and then easily became my favorite
Speaker 1: movie in the franchise thus far. Again, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's the best one. But you have to judge these
Speaker 1: movies on a couple of different things, and one of
Speaker 1: the things you cannot ignore is like they're all building
Speaker 1: on one another. They're able to do a thing that
Speaker 1: not a lot of movie franchise is barely any in fact,
Speaker 1: are able to pull off so flawlessly, and even though
Speaker 1: they have flaws, they correct the course, correct and they
Speaker 1: just kind of keep going. So that, Yeah, Infinity War
Speaker 1: is not a normal movie. It is a movie that
Speaker 1: takes place after ten years of building one or two
Speaker 1: or three movies a year, building up characters, and then
Speaker 1: pulling off this thing too. Um. And it's an insane
Speaker 1: cliffhanger there. They were going for the Empire strikes back,
Speaker 1: except instead of waiting three years, we're gonna a year. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So um, I thought it was the funny, one of
Speaker 1: the funniest movies. Yeah, Oh my god. All the characters parents, like,
Speaker 1: do you want to talk about introducing a new character.
Speaker 1: Here's e Tree, the dwarf, who's Peter Dinklage. When he
Speaker 1: showed up, that whole thing was like so sad but
Speaker 1: also hilarious when he's like, if you fail, you'll die
Speaker 1: He's like, only if i'm if I get if I die.
Speaker 1: It's like, if you do this, you'll be killed. Only
Speaker 1: if I die, That's what killing you means. Like it
Speaker 1: was hilarious. Yeah, Like, what's cool to about this is
Speaker 1: someone who has read as many event crossovers and comics
Speaker 1: as much as I have, and to see where comic
Speaker 1: book movies like have tried and failed, where they kept
Speaker 1: making the misstep of trying to to make a comic
Speaker 1: book movie. And then I often say, this is like
Speaker 1: the failure a lot of comic book movies is you
Speaker 1: make a comboo movie, you got to choose a genre.
Speaker 1: This was the first time I felt like a comic
Speaker 1: book movie. But it was all right because the one
Speaker 1: thing about these crossover events are you see these heroes
Speaker 1: who don't normally interact interacting this crossover. Like when you're
Speaker 1: reading Avengers versus X Men and you see, you know,
Speaker 1: Cyclops talking that smack with Steve Rogers, You're like, oh, crap,
Speaker 1: this is this is something that was supposed to be
Speaker 1: in my fan fix, and this is what we got.
Speaker 1: In Infinity Wars. You've got to see Guardians of the
Speaker 1: Galaxy interact with Thor for the first time, and you
Speaker 1: and so like it was cool on that level, that
Speaker 1: level of a fan of the movies and a level
Speaker 1: of a fan of comics, because you're like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is that feeling of seeing these characters interact. But what's crazier,
Speaker 1: this is kind of out of the movie. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: just after this event happened just last weekend. Cors in
Speaker 1: town Danny and I was. I was hanging with her.
Speaker 1: We walked in the Disney Store, which sidebar out of
Speaker 1: all this, were walked walking into the Disney stores. Insane
Speaker 1: right now, because you walk into the Disney Store and
Speaker 1: you see the princesses and you're like, check, got it?
Speaker 1: Then Star Wars and Marvel stuff and you're like, oh
Speaker 1: wait what, Oh yeah, y'all have all of this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna start selling X Men stuff and they're
Speaker 1: shape of water dolls. It's crazy. They it's going to
Speaker 1: be the fish button on everything. But what was crazy
Speaker 1: was there was an infinitely Infinity Gauntlet. Mum, and I
Speaker 1: was like, someone's grandma knows what this is. And this
Speaker 1: was a weird thing that only dorks like me did.
Speaker 1: I tell you guys a story. We can't cuss on
Speaker 1: this podcast right now, but you have like ten times.
Speaker 1: I think, so sorry, but let me I'll censor myself.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't think I shared this
Speaker 1: with you last time I was here because it was
Speaker 1: before Infinity War. But this is exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: If he this is what happened to me. The weekend
Speaker 1: that Avengers Infinity War was released, I get a text
Speaker 1: from my dad on Monday, my dad who text me,
Speaker 1: he goes, did Fanos really do that? And I'll texted
Speaker 1: back like, yeah, he did it, and then he text
Speaker 1: me back f Fanos. My dad texted my father, who
Speaker 1: was like fifty six years old Mexican guy, like knew
Speaker 1: with it. I have been around this comic book stuff
Speaker 1: since I was a kid. I'm sure that I had
Speaker 1: copies of you know, the comic book Infinity Gauntlet in
Speaker 1: my house at some point. Would never ever be interested
Speaker 1: in that stuff. But even like my dad knows who
Speaker 1: that not only does he know who he is, he
Speaker 1: understands him and he dislikes him. That is the measure
Speaker 1: of success for me. That like exactly what you're describing,
Speaker 1: Like somebody's mom knows what the Infinity Gauntlet mug is
Speaker 1: our parents know this stuff, and it's wild, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: What's even crazier too, is there still some more stuff
Speaker 1: that needs to make you got the Illuminati? Who you
Speaker 1: got me? What's that one of them? Yeah? Oh my god, Scarlett,
Speaker 1: which that might still happen, Dude, I swear to God
Speaker 1: if they do my what I want them to happen,
Speaker 1: which is the scarlet, which fixes everything, but then introduces mutants,
Speaker 1: just the reverse. Maybe too much. Yeah, let's go over
Speaker 1: the other movies and then we'll just kind of after
Speaker 1: Avengers Infinity War, Ant Man and the Wasp was all right,
Speaker 1: it was fun. It was it was a nest A
Speaker 1: Sery like John john t little heist movie. It was
Speaker 1: a heist movie again. Yeah, so that slapped for me,
Speaker 1: and you know, and why because there's father daughter moments
Speaker 1: and father daughter movies now rank high for me. I
Speaker 1: loved it. It was great. Let me go hug Naomi
Speaker 1: after this, I didn't grab the little card. But my
Speaker 1: favorite thing about the movie was the villain. Ghost character.
Speaker 1: Great character, great villain, maybe not reaching the heights of
Speaker 1: a killmonger or vulture, but like, she was different and
Speaker 1: it's not typical that we saw somebody dealing with chronic pain,
Speaker 1: and then her and her dad's story, and then Bill
Speaker 1: Foster coming in Laurence Fishburne like helping her. All that
Speaker 1: stuff was great. That stuff was a highlight. I wanted
Speaker 1: more Luise so that the movie was just like all
Speaker 1: right from me. I was like, listen, by now you
Speaker 1: should have put Louise in the soup. And do you
Speaker 1: see do you see Patton Oswald's tweet that like if
Speaker 1: if Endgame doesn't start with Louise, just like recapping everything
Speaker 1: that happened the last ten years, everybody, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: By the way, if I want to talk about Louise,
Speaker 1: and I want to talk about Michael Pinion because if
Speaker 1: you haven't noticed, Observe and Report has made its way
Speaker 1: back on Netflix, and it's so funny. But to see
Speaker 1: Michael Pinion that and to see him mid Louise, it's like,
Speaker 1: not only is it beautiful to see just like the
Speaker 1: different you know abilities, but also just the scope of
Speaker 1: Latin X representation where it's like, you know, it was
Speaker 1: funny and it worked for the movie, and they you know,
Speaker 1: they didn't like lean too heavily on stereotypes, but it
Speaker 1: kind of was like all right, whereas like it's almost
Speaker 1: like Luis and his character and observing report, we're kind
Speaker 1: of the same person. But this one was like the
Speaker 1: top of your intelligence version where it's like yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it was yeah, yeah, it's like these are both criminals
Speaker 1: who are who Well, here's the way I'll say it.
Speaker 1: One is a Mexican criminal and one is a criminal
Speaker 1: who happens to be Mexican. That's what it felt for
Speaker 1: those two roles, where it seems like like the jokes
Speaker 1: would be gone if he didn't do the accent and
Speaker 1: he wasn't, whereas like this it is like he didn't
Speaker 1: need an accent. It just was a part of who
Speaker 1: he is, and then they wanted to flip that imagery
Speaker 1: on his head by making him this very cultured person.
Speaker 1: But also like for the movie, the type of movie
Speaker 1: it was at the time, I'm not also not trying
Speaker 1: to dunk on it. You know, it's very hard to
Speaker 1: h it's like, yeah, you know, like I thought he
Speaker 1: was hilarious and it and it was so good, but
Speaker 1: it's so interesting to see, like you know, even when
Speaker 1: you go back and look at certain like black rolls
Speaker 1: and you're like, no knocking it, you know. But it's
Speaker 1: crazy that like we go so much further now, you know,
Speaker 1: and we get to see him as Dora's dad. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, let me talk about that, because Danny was
Speaker 1: going hard for Dora. And I saw it live when
Speaker 1: it released because I was at the Kid's Choice Awards,
Speaker 1: and it was so funny because like, well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I didn't have internet reception, so like when they set
Speaker 1: this movie was coming, I was like, oh man, they
Speaker 1: don't watch the trailer. And I'm in there getting hype
Speaker 1: with the kids, like hell, yeah, this is great. And
Speaker 1: to go out and all these kids are loving it.
Speaker 1: Like I'm in there with real kids. It's not fake
Speaker 1: kids in there. It's a real kids. So to see
Speaker 1: me and all these kids hyped about this movie that
Speaker 1: come out and see adults, man, he was like, dude,
Speaker 1: shut up, it ain't for you. Me and the kids
Speaker 1: we're in it. And also to see a fully fleshed
Speaker 1: out Latin X family on screen. Why do you mad
Speaker 1: at that? How you mad? Because they're obnoxious? I just
Speaker 1: I mean, I tweeted. I was like, no one cares
Speaker 1: that It's not for you. Go pay your taxes, like
Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, I'm over it. And also like in
Speaker 1: my community and like, you're going to support this because
Speaker 1: we're not gonna keep getting these if you if you
Speaker 1: don't support it, I'm sorry. It's the truth like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm an actual like I'm actually pitching things.
Speaker 1: I'm in these meetings, in these studio meetings, I'm meeting
Speaker 1: with showrunners and meeting with Latin X showrunners, and we
Speaker 1: talked to each other and we're like, look, it is
Speaker 1: very important. It is so hard. The thing that comes
Speaker 1: back to us all the time in these meetings is,
Speaker 1: y'all don't have a bank Abolt star. They say, until
Speaker 1: all the time, you'all don't have a star that you
Speaker 1: all will go out and go see and we'll argue
Speaker 1: about that, but the truth is is that if we
Speaker 1: don't go out and see these movies, they will, like,
Speaker 1: it's harder for the rest of us in this that
Speaker 1: are trying to get these our stories out. So at
Speaker 1: least this has like a name like Nickelodeon behind it.
Speaker 1: I really don't care how you feel about it, so
Speaker 1: you don't need it at me. Um, I'm going to
Speaker 1: support it. I'm getting my I'm getting my stuff sold.
Speaker 1: There we go. I'm working with awesome, great Latino showrunners
Speaker 1: and filmmakers, so I'm really excited. But we are actually
Speaker 1: on the front lines of like trying to get it
Speaker 1: so that y'all can have more of more films. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I think it's telling that if you said that
Speaker 1: you were like experiencing with kids, they were stoked about it,
Speaker 1: because to me, those kids are not on the internet.
Speaker 1: The only people voices were hearing on the Internet are
Speaker 1: like adult grown men that are in their thirties and
Speaker 1: forties complaining about a thing that looks like it's either
Speaker 1: not for them, like it's either too dumb down or
Speaker 1: trying to be something that it's not. And you you
Speaker 1: know that that's all bs because if they really cared
Speaker 1: about the sanctity of the i P, they would have
Speaker 1: been complaining in two thousand seven when Transformers came out
Speaker 1: and it was like ugly and homophobic and sexist and
Speaker 1: racist and made optimist primer murderer and all this all
Speaker 1: the stuff that like, like you have the Transformers movie
Speaker 1: franchise excluding Bumblebee, has turned into a thing that's like
Speaker 1: a joke like, I'm watching the movie the show The
Speaker 1: Good Place, and there's a joke in there about how
Speaker 1: in the Bad Place they'll give you deodorant that's acts
Speaker 1: body spray that's flavored that the flavor is Transformers, and
Speaker 1: the joke is you sprayed on and it makes you
Speaker 1: smell the way Transformers movies make you feel. So somebody
Speaker 1: or later smell it and they're like, oh, why am
Speaker 1: I confused? And everything is loud, and like that's become
Speaker 1: a joke. So if the people on the internet were
Speaker 1: really cared about caring about like oh, doors shouldn't be
Speaker 1: made into like a tomb Rad or knockoff Dora the
Speaker 1: Explorer should be for kids or whatever, they would have
Speaker 1: been complaining about Transformers. But they weren't because that movie
Speaker 1: was marketed towards them, which is like older dudes, and
Speaker 1: it's like, well, then you didn't stop because it's not
Speaker 1: about you. It's not about you. Well, I don't want
Speaker 1: to say for people that like look at it and
Speaker 1: people that people I had some people tweat at me
Speaker 1: like it just doesn't look good. I'm like, I can
Speaker 1: I swear to God if I were to show this
Speaker 1: to my niece right now. She would not think that
Speaker 1: at all because they don't have the same like they
Speaker 1: don't think the same way that we do. Also, it does,
Speaker 1: I think it does the you know, it does a
Speaker 1: good job of trying to do what it does, which
Speaker 1: is taking a source material and then getting creative with it.
Speaker 1: Like I think we I think we often forget how
Speaker 1: often that's done. Like Fast and Furious wasn't the first.
Speaker 1: It was based off of this super old movie called
Speaker 1: Fast and Furious, which I'm sure is nothing like the franchise.
Speaker 1: It's just a jumping off point in a bass pad
Speaker 1: and I'm very and like watching it. It did seem
Speaker 1: like fun cute and funny because it is like treating
Speaker 1: the main character as if she was Dora from Dora.
Speaker 1: They explore and so like there seems like yeah, like
Speaker 1: seeing her interact with humans and stuff. It was real
Speaker 1: cute and funny. Like I don't but um, I'll say this,
Speaker 1: like I say, every time this subject has brought up,
Speaker 1: negativity is more bankable than positive activity online. So everyone's
Speaker 1: looking for the disc, you know, like like, what is
Speaker 1: the funny disk that's gonna give me lots of retweets?
Speaker 1: They tried this and this, and then it made a
Speaker 1: billion dollars. We're gonna stop making videos about audio media
Speaker 1: on on YouTube. I'm holding up a picture of Carol
Speaker 1: Dann also made a billion dollars. A billion dollars. Everyone
Speaker 1: knows Hector has been punctuating his statements with some characters
Speaker 1: that it's not about you. And I held up a
Speaker 1: picture of the ancient one from that no one saw.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, this is let's yeah, we have one
Speaker 1: more movie. Think homely Moly, I was. I loved it
Speaker 1: so cool much. I mean everyone had like certain gripes,
Speaker 1: but there are certain things that made me love it
Speaker 1: so much. Like that moment at the end, I mean,
Speaker 1: at this point, you know we're in Sportler Country. Listen
Speaker 1: where she stands out the moment which where she I
Speaker 1: think the moment after that when that guys like all
Speaker 1: right Manamano, which is such a classic movie trope, and
Speaker 1: her just blasting him, I'm like, thank you, because every
Speaker 1: time that happens in that movie, I just want that
Speaker 1: to happen, and also for it to also have this
Speaker 1: meaning because you know that that was like a spoiler
Speaker 1: that was just definitely mirroring all this, all those like
Speaker 1: all right, guys to AOC talking about debate me, It's like, no,
Speaker 1: I have nothing to prove to you. I'm in office,
Speaker 1: you're a TV talking head. What what do I get
Speaker 1: out of debating you. I think it's pretty cool to
Speaker 1: see a big movie, superhero movie like this. The past
Speaker 1: couple of movies have provided me with some of my
Speaker 1: favorite movies and favorite moments. Um. I've been rewatching stuff
Speaker 1: like Thor Ragnarok, Black Panther, like these movies are really
Speaker 1: I'm like loving more and more and more. And Captain
Speaker 1: Marvel is going to be one of those where I
Speaker 1: think it's a big deal that we saw a woman
Speaker 1: actually say that in a movie like this, this genre,
Speaker 1: to go, I have nothing to prove to you. To
Speaker 1: say that to a man. That might not be a
Speaker 1: big deal to a lot of dudes, but I feel
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be a big deal to a lot
Speaker 1: of young women to see that. To go, oh, I
Speaker 1: can just say that great. So my biggest issue was
Speaker 1: people comparing it to Wonder Woman. I'm like, they are
Speaker 1: literally not the same at all. They don't have the
Speaker 1: same origin story, they don't have the same like characters,
Speaker 1: Like they're not even One Wonder Woman was a period piece.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, it was a war movie. It's like
Speaker 1: not the same at all. And Kevin Fagi said, no,
Speaker 1: We're going to go in with her already with Captain
Speaker 1: Marvel already having her powers, and like it just it
Speaker 1: was so I'm like, that actually shows me that you're
Speaker 1: not as well versed in comics. If you're trying to
Speaker 1: compare to randomly just because they're women, that's the only
Speaker 1: thing you have to compare it. I think I think
Speaker 1: it's a It's a frequent thing. Um people that are
Speaker 1: upset that the status quo is being challenged, whether they
Speaker 1: know it or not, they subconsciously do that. They'll pick
Speaker 1: a thing against another thing. I'm a big trekky and
Speaker 1: every time I talk about how I'm really enjoying Star
Speaker 1: Trek Discovery, then you show people always jump in and
Speaker 1: let me know, a it's not as good as The Orville,
Speaker 1: And I'm going, well, then do you really like the Orville?
Speaker 1: Are you really learning lessons on like how to be
Speaker 1: a better person from shows like that or are you
Speaker 1: just trying to dunk on my thing, you know, and
Speaker 1: make yourself feel better about your thing? Like by pitting
Speaker 1: two against each other when you don't really have to
Speaker 1: do that. When the new Star Trek show was announced
Speaker 1: and it was going to have a black female lead,
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people online go, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: Deep Space nine did it, and I'm like, yeah, that
Speaker 1: was twenty years ago. We're not done, you know, making
Speaker 1: movies with black leads or making shows with black lead
Speaker 1: just because they did it and it were premiered in Like,
Speaker 1: Blade movies are done. Blade movies are great, and we
Speaker 1: should give credit to Blade for being the sort of
Speaker 1: the movie that really jump started Hollywood going, let's make
Speaker 1: a bunch of superhero comic book movies. But Blade is
Speaker 1: not on my table right now, and that's a problem.
Speaker 1: So we need a new Blade, Like, we're not done
Speaker 1: with black superhero characters just because three Blade movies were made.
Speaker 1: You know, for me, it was just like their Carol
Speaker 1: and Diana could not be more different. So to even
Speaker 1: their films shouldn't feel the same period. Their films shouldn't
Speaker 1: be the same. They're not the same character, and they don't.
Speaker 1: They only think the only thing that's the same is
Speaker 1: that they're both the first female character of a respective word.
Speaker 1: That's their thing. But it's like annoying to me that
Speaker 1: one had to be better than the other and all
Speaker 1: these conversations, so the same thing happened. She's am because
Speaker 1: you know, oh, she Za used to be Captain Marvel. Oh,
Speaker 1: I like she's a better I like Captain Marvel better.
Speaker 1: I'm very happy that they that they both exist. I'm
Speaker 1: happy that they both exist, but that they all cheered
Speaker 1: each other on, like Gal Gadot cheered on Um, Brie
Speaker 1: Larson like tweeted about it. You know, Brie Larson like
Speaker 1: cheered on Zachary Levi. Zachary Levi cheered on Brine Larson. Like.
Speaker 1: They're adults that are making a lot of money too,
Speaker 1: so they don't actually care about all of your growth.
Speaker 1: We have to take a quick break. We are going
Speaker 1: to actually jump into our favorite moments of this franchise
Speaker 1: right when we come back and we're back and we're
Speaker 1: kicking it off with Iron Man two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: What is the biggest moment that stood out for you,
Speaker 1: your hype moment? What is your hype moment for the story,
Speaker 1: because it's not at this point. I love that movie
Speaker 1: on its own, and the movie when it ends, when
Speaker 1: Tony Stark says, I am iron Man, right, you know
Speaker 1: when you hear the me is like the black like kicking.
Speaker 1: That's great, and the movie is complete and it's done.
Speaker 1: But I still remember my brain melting when I stayed
Speaker 1: after the credits and was sitting there with my high
Speaker 1: school college girlfriend at the time, and I don't think
Speaker 1: she she was like, I think she understood what was happening,
Speaker 1: but I was like melting in my chair. When I
Speaker 1: heard Samuel L. Jackson speak, you know, I am iron Man.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, it's it's real, it's
Speaker 1: happening because I knew exactly. I'm like, that's Nick Fury,
Speaker 1: He's from Shield. He's about to tell Tony Stark that
Speaker 1: there's more people like him. Here we go and and
Speaker 1: it um and it's still maybe the best post credit
Speaker 1: scene was post credit set the bar bar let us know.
Speaker 1: And this was actually the pre era when you had
Speaker 1: important information after the credits before they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: let's not make people wait. It used to just be bloopers,
Speaker 1: and I wish that they did that. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: that is my big pitch for Endgame, which I know
Speaker 1: they probably won't do. I would die if it was
Speaker 1: just bloopers, like all their bloopers through the years. Wouldn't
Speaker 1: that be so funny and cute to what I would cry?
Speaker 1: I can probably film how many bloopers they had over there,
Speaker 1: I know, but I really wish that they did on
Speaker 1: the Blue Race. They're great. No, okay, whatever, Just to
Speaker 1: confirm your that relationship did not survive the m C.
Speaker 1: You know, it got it was amicable, it wasn't There
Speaker 1: wasn't like you don't like purposes. It got snack, got snapped.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, but now I don't know if we're
Speaker 1: allowed to say this. You're with someone who is on well,
Speaker 1: she's on so many things, but she's a character on
Speaker 1: Carmen San Diego. You're allowed to say that, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm you're not allowed to. Okay, you're allowed to if
Speaker 1: you want. Yeah, she's her name is Abby Trot and
Speaker 1: she plays the character Ivy on Carmen San Diego, and
Speaker 1: she's hilarious. She's also in like a bunch of video
Speaker 1: games and and she's sang the song and Super Smash
Speaker 1: Brother is Ultimate. So if you ever played that game, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we don't have the rights of that posably sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: well I know, sorry is freaking out in the booth.
Speaker 1: Producer is freaking out in the booth. We need it.
Speaker 1: Why are we having you on to many times when
Speaker 1: you have a happy one? She's great, she's great, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're going to Yes, Yes, incredible Hulk two thousand eight.
Speaker 1: I really dig this movie. Uh My highlight though, is
Speaker 1: going to be just to just to keep things going
Speaker 1: with like the Shared Universe aspect, the moment where the
Speaker 1: abomination email Blonski is running across the field, like because
Speaker 1: we saw that again in Infinity War and at that
Speaker 1: point in the movie world, my brain was going, they're
Speaker 1: hinting that Captain America can do this, Like if Captain
Speaker 1: America has the super Soldier serum, that's kind of what
Speaker 1: they gave this dude. Now he's going to fight the Hulk.
Speaker 1: This is how they like CAP's gonna look And they
Speaker 1: straight up did it in Infinity War. So I have
Speaker 1: a question, because you've been a bunch to a bunch
Speaker 1: of these marathon movie marathons, which I think like people
Speaker 1: now they had one, what was like you get paid
Speaker 1: like a thousand dollars to sit and watch them? How
Speaker 1: long is it tapping out at like ten twelve hours.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's like a couple of days twelve hours.
Speaker 1: No, no no, no, there's two movies. Okay, at least to
Speaker 1: several of I know Nerice does one every year. Um
Speaker 1: and okay, So, but how do people feel when this
Speaker 1: movie is shown? Does everyone still chill about it? Listen,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of controversy with like the order that
Speaker 1: you watch him in, with like what to include, what
Speaker 1: not to include. People will still tell me like, oh,
Speaker 1: you should include the Eric Bannah Hulk because it's like
Speaker 1: a prequel. I'm like, well, it's not. It's not. It's
Speaker 1: straight and it's not considered a straight rebooted into the
Speaker 1: m c U to the Edward Norton version. Um I
Speaker 1: My stance is this, you can basically watch these movies
Speaker 1: the as with the theatrical release. I would only plug
Speaker 1: around a couple of different things. Hulk, you move towards,
Speaker 1: you move it to after Thor because Iron Man two
Speaker 1: and Thor and Hulk all take place in the same week.
Speaker 1: But then the events of Hulk. If you remember, at
Speaker 1: the end of Hulk, Tony Stark shows up iron Man
Speaker 1: and he goes We're putting team together. That happens a
Speaker 1: little bit after the last scene in Thor, when the
Speaker 1: last scene in Thoris is Nick Fury tucking a Selvig
Speaker 1: like I want you to take a look at this
Speaker 1: cosmic cube. Like that happens before Tony going We're putting
Speaker 1: a team together, and then everything is is the way
Speaker 1: it was theatrically least, except then you take Spider Man
Speaker 1: Homecoming and Black Panther and you put them after Captain
Speaker 1: America Civil War, because Spider Man Homecoming takes place like
Speaker 1: after the summer of that movie. He goes back to
Speaker 1: school and then some stuff happens, and then at the
Speaker 1: end of that movie, Adrian tombs Michael Keaton gets put
Speaker 1: in jail, and then Black Panther happens pretty much a
Speaker 1: week or so after Captain America's Civil War. He goes
Speaker 1: and he fights kill Monger, And at the end of
Speaker 1: that movie, there's a post credit scene where Bucky the
Speaker 1: Winter Soldier comes out of like a little area, a
Speaker 1: little healing area in Wakonda, and they call him the
Speaker 1: White Wolf, and they have been like helping him sort
Speaker 1: of fix his brainwashing. And that happens after the last
Speaker 1: scene in Spider Man and all everything else again, would
Speaker 1: just leave it to how it was theatrically released because
Speaker 1: it all sort of I'm just going off of the
Speaker 1: very very very last scene in the movie. I know
Speaker 1: people like to put Captain America the First Avenger first,
Speaker 1: because most of it takes place in World War Two,
Speaker 1: But the last scene in that movie is he wakes
Speaker 1: up in two thousand and eleven and Nick Fury's like,
Speaker 1: you've been asleep for seventy years, cap. So, like, I
Speaker 1: like to watch that scene after I've seen Iron Man
Speaker 1: and Thor and you know, all the stuff that happened,
Speaker 1: and so because then that's that should be the last
Speaker 1: movie you see before the Avengers, to just kind of
Speaker 1: carry that through. So that's my whole take on it.
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm fine with dude, There's so many movies
Speaker 1: at this point. I'm not going to be like, you
Speaker 1: gotta watch all of them every time you watch one
Speaker 1: of them. Watch what you want? Um is watching what
Speaker 1: you want? Also Iron Man too. Yeah, we actually did
Speaker 1: some like commentary for this. Remember we had to watch it. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed his carot, his parents great, make your works great.
Speaker 1: My favorite moment is anything with Justin Hammer, Sam Rockwell,
Speaker 1: next movie done. Okay, I did want to say. The
Speaker 1: other thing I liked is, um yeah, Whiplash. I liked
Speaker 1: the scene on the on the track where he has
Speaker 1: like all of those the coolest, it's the coolest race track.
Speaker 1: And the introduction of Black Widow, which is important, but
Speaker 1: I prefer Black widows depiction like later in later movies,
Speaker 1: because she's like, she's sort of a glorified secretary, spy,
Speaker 1: sexy thing in this and it's like, I like it
Speaker 1: when they make her the super competent, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: just awesome, badass character who's a little tortured because she is.
Speaker 1: She's messed up, but she's great. They're all messed up.
Speaker 1: All these characters are messed up and flowed. That's what
Speaker 1: makes him great. Thor's next. Best part of that movie,
Speaker 1: best part of Thor. I love the scene where Loki
Speaker 1: is yelling at Anthony Hopkins and he's like, I'm the
Speaker 1: story that you tell your children and I so that
Speaker 1: they that they go to sleep at night, when really
Speaker 1: I was just the thing you were embarrassed about. Time
Speaker 1: and again, he never considered me for the throne. Wine
Speaker 1: would tell me that scene and he's like you and
Speaker 1: my son, I couldn't I couldn't tell you, and he
Speaker 1: like has a heart, Please continue doing We'll just start
Speaker 1: reenacting all the MC in a first that scene was good,
Speaker 1: but my scene is always going to be our first
Speaker 1: look at Hawkeye. It's great because because I'm because you know,
Speaker 1: Hawkeye feel like gets a lot of flak. And at
Speaker 1: this point I was like, Hawkeye was pretty dope in
Speaker 1: the comics, so it was like very pro Hawkeye. So
Speaker 1: seeing him kind of like get ready, like you better
Speaker 1: call it Colson. I'm starting to root for this guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys will be on a team later. A great moment, uh.
Speaker 1: Next up is Captain America, the first Avenger, my favorite
Speaker 1: Big Year, My single favorite moment in that entire movie
Speaker 1: is when Colonel Chester Phillips played by Tommy Jones throws
Speaker 1: of dummy grenade, Get down gradade, and skinny Steve Rogers
Speaker 1: jumps on it, Go get out of here, and then
Speaker 1: he gets up and everybody all the the you know
Speaker 1: Gilmore Hodge, the guy that Chester Phillips wanted to recruit
Speaker 1: to become Captain America and who Stanley Tucci's Abraham erst
Speaker 1: guy and was telling him like he is a bully,
Speaker 1: He's not the one you should pick. He runs and
Speaker 1: hides behind a car and then Steve Rogers looks up.
Speaker 1: He goes, is this a test? That was a moment
Speaker 1: Peggy started to fall for him. That was a moment
Speaker 1: Tommy Jones turned to um Abraham Abrahammon was like, he's
Speaker 1: still skinny, like this this heroic thing. That just uh,
Speaker 1: It endeared me to that character in a way. That
Speaker 1: and I had been reading Marvel comics like my whole life,
Speaker 1: and I love Cap and I've always respected him. At
Speaker 1: that moment, I'm like, I love this character. I love
Speaker 1: this character. That that was great. I loved it. For me.
Speaker 1: It was that death scene with Peggy because we want you,
Speaker 1: oh remember that I wouldn't want to step on your
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well because because like I thought, I thought
Speaker 1: you were kind of stopping yourself. But yeah. What was
Speaker 1: great about that is once again, as a reading all
Speaker 1: the comics is you know his his origin is something
Speaker 1: always referenced, but to actually like see it come to life,
Speaker 1: to see the moment his last moments before he became
Speaker 1: the Cap we love, it was like so beautiful to
Speaker 1: see and just that romance they built built with him
Speaker 1: and Peggy was great. And that always time travel stuff
Speaker 1: always kind of like gets me, like just like like
Speaker 1: the end too Interstellar really got me, Like the fact
Speaker 1: like I just imagining like outliving your child because of
Speaker 1: just some weird time stuff. So like outliving the one
Speaker 1: you love, like that type of stuff always like hits
Speaker 1: me in a spot. I wish we had more time,
Speaker 1: different different franchise, but still yeah, so wonder them. It's
Speaker 1: still good. Yeah, you're talking about, well, she outlives all
Speaker 1: of her Okay, moving on, moving on, we have the Avengers.
Speaker 1: This is okay. You have to talk about the defining
Speaker 1: moment of this movie, which is when Marvel, I think
Speaker 1: announced itself to the world. Is like where nobody to
Speaker 1: be played with? Is the hero shot the whole movie
Speaker 1: builds or that the theme swells, Alan Sylvestri and all
Speaker 1: six of them cap with the mask on, Iron Man
Speaker 1: with the helmet down, Hawkeye, Black Widow, thor Hulk hulked
Speaker 1: out this thing and it led right into Hulk smashing
Speaker 1: Chatari Hulk smash and he smiles like this was a
Speaker 1: a man I had a chance to work on the
Speaker 1: movie before it came out. I must have mentioned it
Speaker 1: last time I was here and I saw clips and
Speaker 1: I even saw this guy Thanos. I'm holding up the
Speaker 1: little picture and my mind was blown with like they're
Speaker 1: actually going to use Fanos in this Avengers movie. Like
Speaker 1: it's early. This is a pretty obscure, like deep reference cut.
Speaker 1: I don't know how people are gonna, you know, get it.
Speaker 1: As I was working on the movie, since I have
Speaker 1: loved these characters and the idea of Marvel comics and
Speaker 1: comic book superhero universes since I was a kid, I
Speaker 1: was like, this movie is gonna be huge, and my
Speaker 1: coworkers are like, okay, Hector, it'll be fine. And it
Speaker 1: came out and it was the third highest grossing movie
Speaker 1: of all time. Like that's what the Avengers did, and
Speaker 1: it really is. You go back and watch that. The
Speaker 1: writing just services the action. The action helps the characters,
Speaker 1: which just goes back to the writing, what Josh Weeden
Speaker 1: did with that, all the decisions he made and what
Speaker 1: they let him do to make a two and a
Speaker 1: half hour movie like to It's just it's still in
Speaker 1: use today. Like the rest of the Marvel movies really
Speaker 1: borrowed from from what that formula is, from how to
Speaker 1: treat those characters. I mean it brought back Holk in
Speaker 1: a way with Ruffalo where people were like, oh, now
Speaker 1: he's my favorite. It's like that's awesome. But to me,
Speaker 1: it's the group shot is that is the best part
Speaker 1: of that film. That's that was What was crazy. Is
Speaker 1: like when I saw rough Laws like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: and it's funny because you know, you always had this
Speaker 1: super duper feeble banner like he always just and it
Speaker 1: was just a contrast how huge the whole kids and
Speaker 1: Ruffle well you know, he got some meat on him,
Speaker 1: like you know, and so I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: But the way he portrayed Bruce was like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is him so sensitive. Yeah you are Bruce absolutely. Next up,
Speaker 1: Iron really dig this movie. It's losing a little bit
Speaker 1: of a chain as the years go on for me.
Speaker 1: But my highlight favorite part of this movie is the
Speaker 1: way that they took the in the comic books racist
Speaker 1: caricature of the Mandarin and use that thematically in the movie.
Speaker 1: They made a vaguely looking Osama bin laden looking character
Speaker 1: who was who was claiming, you know, credit for terrorism,
Speaker 1: who was really fabricated by like a businessman, like there's
Speaker 1: all this stuff that's happening in that movie. And Ben
Speaker 1: Kingsley is hilarious, and when he actually the secret twist
Speaker 1: that he wasn't really the mandarin was a secret that
Speaker 1: was held. You go and see the movie, you're like,
Speaker 1: oh dang, Like it is like it's one like Luke
Speaker 1: through the Lightsaber for me, Like it was such a
Speaker 1: like funny, shocking thing, and it's complicated, all right, it's
Speaker 1: complicated drugs, lovely drugs, like like like how did you
Speaker 1: not know what's happening? It's like our mate, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm an actor mate, It's just you know, it was
Speaker 1: so damn funny and I dug it and and I
Speaker 1: wasn't mad as a comic book fan of like where
Speaker 1: do you get the man? He's like, I'm wasn't missing it.
Speaker 1: It's probably gonna be the last Iron Man Tony Stark movie.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like what I've liked to have seen
Speaker 1: him face a magic guy. Yeah, but we didn't have
Speaker 1: Doctor Strange yet. The world wasn't ready now we do.
Speaker 1: You want to tell me that there's a real mandarin
Speaker 1: that exists in the m C you like they did
Speaker 1: with the Marvel one shot. I'll hell the King, go
Speaker 1: for it. And you want to tell me that he's
Speaker 1: as magical as Doctor Strange or the Ancient one, go
Speaker 1: for it. I'll see that some day. But Iron Man
Speaker 1: three fun Yeah, then we're moving on to Thor The
Speaker 1: Dark World. I think the best part of that movie
Speaker 1: was when Loki died because at the time it was
Speaker 1: for real. Even at the end of that movie where
Speaker 1: they're like, no, no, no, he's actually disguising himself as Odin.
Speaker 1: Only really because it comes into play and Thor Ragnarok
Speaker 1: in such a funny way, they recreated it with Matt
Speaker 1: Damon where they using the same music, using the same moment,
Speaker 1: the same lines. Didn't do it for you, I didn't
Speaker 1: do it for him, like and it was like emotional then,
Speaker 1: but to have it replayed and kind of crapped all
Speaker 1: over by t And but also people can't see because
Speaker 1: you're holding up the little card like we said that
Speaker 1: he has trading cards of every character, so he has
Speaker 1: Matt Damon's character. It just says low key actor. And
Speaker 1: then at the top it says decimating is just because
Speaker 1: their planet got blown No, because as a joke. Somebody
Speaker 1: was asking who died in the snap and somebody held
Speaker 1: up Matt Damon and they were like jokingly like yeah
Speaker 1: he got snapped like that. It doesn't matter, but I
Speaker 1: think it's really funny. Another example of that is the
Speaker 1: Gallagha guy from the Avengers movie, where's like that man's
Speaker 1: playing Galaga. That was a character that was apparently listed
Speaker 1: as having been decimated. Stupid but funny. I love it.
Speaker 1: I actually I remember when they came out. Remember when
Speaker 1: in Fitty War came out and it was like you
Speaker 1: could check to see if you were dusted or I
Speaker 1: think I lived, And I was like, damn, didn't want
Speaker 1: to go hang out with everyone that's in the dust world. Uh,
Speaker 1: Captain America the Winter Soldier to this is a good one.
Speaker 1: This is a highlight for a lot of reasons. First
Speaker 1: of all, Robert Redford my mom's favorite actor. This character
Speaker 1: is now deceased Alexander Pierce, but he was a hottie
Speaker 1: and he did a great job. I love George's bat Track,
Speaker 1: who is a funny character from the comics named Batrock
Speaker 1: Zelieper and they did a great job portraying him. But
Speaker 1: I have to say a highlight for me. It was
Speaker 1: the introduction of the Falcon Sam Wilson, the intro scene
Speaker 1: where it's on your left, that whole scene and he
Speaker 1: talks to you know, Steve and he's like trouble Man
Speaker 1: soundtrack nineteen seventy four, You'll catch up on everything, and
Speaker 1: he's like, I'll add it to the list. Like it
Speaker 1: was just so well done. Uh. That was was a
Speaker 1: highlight for me, was seeing that character kind of brought
Speaker 1: to life and being recruited into the fold. You know,
Speaker 1: I never said I was a pilot where he he
Speaker 1: gets to um show off being the Falcon and um.
Speaker 1: And there's a bunch of great moments in that movie,
Speaker 1: and I think another big moment that if you're not
Speaker 1: a comic book fan, it paid off better and if
Speaker 1: you are, it was just fun to see. But who
Speaker 1: the hell's Bucky? Which is great? Like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: like I I again, they did another good job of
Speaker 1: of of I think they don't remember if Sebastian stand
Speaker 1: was doing press as the Winter Soldier, like I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he can't remember, somebody on the
Speaker 1: internet will tell me now. But but um, there's a
Speaker 1: there's a part of me that wishes that I hadn't
Speaker 1: been reading Marvel my whole life, because a bunch of
Speaker 1: these moments in these movies would be so to see
Speaker 1: for the first time. Well that's the fun part of
Speaker 1: going online and where people who haven't are like the
Speaker 1: Winter Soldiers Bucky and you're like, yes, he is, Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly he is. But that's why I like being tricked
Speaker 1: with these movies. Sometimes with like the Mandarin Twist, or
Speaker 1: in Captain Marvel, how the scrolls were depicted, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: he got me my own personal biases and my own
Speaker 1: you know, knowledge of the comic books made me think
Speaker 1: this was going to go a different way. I was very,
Speaker 1: very happy with being surprised with Captain Mark. I've been
Speaker 1: sitting on this and you know what, Dan in the
Speaker 1: in the in the cut, just bleep it just in
Speaker 1: case believe it in. But just another cool moment would
Speaker 1: be if everyone's gonna be like what and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the comics exactly for a little bit, and then
Speaker 1: he's going to that's why it's so excited about Monica
Speaker 1: in it, and I was like, do you even know
Speaker 1: who that is? I do. Moving on to Guardians of
Speaker 1: the Galaxy. We're like catching up, We're like here, We're
Speaker 1: like almost here. Um. So many favorite moments in this
Speaker 1: first film. I love the opening where Peter Quill arrives
Speaker 1: on Morag and it's all like like cool music, and
Speaker 1: then he hits the Walkman and the first song comes up,
Speaker 1: because it was such a jarring like, oh, this movie
Speaker 1: is gonna be fun, even though it opened with the
Speaker 1: really sad his mom passing away. You know, take my hand, Peter,
Speaker 1: and you're just like all of a sudden crying. You're like, what,
Speaker 1: what the what, what's happening? He gets abducted and then
Speaker 1: it's Marvel and then it's fun. The end of that
Speaker 1: movie is such a great payoff two to call back
Speaker 1: to that moment where he is holding the power Stone,
Speaker 1: the Purple Infinity Stone, and he looks over and it's
Speaker 1: go Mora. But he sees his mom and he you know,
Speaker 1: the one tier acting. And then Peter Quill finally takes
Speaker 1: his mom's hand and it's him accepting this new family
Speaker 1: with the Guardians, even the little Rocket hand. I love
Speaker 1: the I love anything with Rocket Raccoon. He is a
Speaker 1: huge favorite character of mine. The scenes where he's yelling
Speaker 1: because he's drunk. He's like, I didn't ask to get
Speaker 1: made ripped apart and put back together again, and I
Speaker 1: got over and over. He thinks I'm fermin. Hey thinks
Speaker 1: I'm a rat like this character. And then earlier Peter
Speaker 1: Quill observes that he's got little stuff in his back,
Speaker 1: little little rivets or whatever, because they literally pulled apart.
Speaker 1: Because to make a raccoon walk like that, you have
Speaker 1: to like stretch out the like the rib cage because
Speaker 1: like raccoons don't have chests or something like. So like
Speaker 1: this little so Peter Quills into prison Clint and he's
Speaker 1: observing him. I'll be kind of messed up. And I
Speaker 1: love this movie more and more as the years go by,
Speaker 1: the same with Part two. There's so many great highlights,
Speaker 1: but for me, it's those two moments. It's anything with
Speaker 1: Rocket Raccoon. Obviously, anything with group that's very emotional, like
Speaker 1: when he goes we are group and sacrifices himself. But
Speaker 1: stuff with Peter and the stuff with Rocket in in
Speaker 1: that first movie I really dig and and that's why
Speaker 1: he and rockets like a favorite, my favorite character. In
Speaker 1: Part two, so I didn't grab his little card, but
Speaker 1: the arrest assured Rocket is my favorite. Then we have
Speaker 1: Age of Vultron. This is where things get a little
Speaker 1: shaky for something Rocket Raccoon. I just rewatched Age of
Speaker 1: Vultron and it's better on a rewatch. This is another
Speaker 1: one that Jopp me he knew what he was doing.
Speaker 1: There is a lot happening in this movie, a lot
Speaker 1: of introduction of characters. But here's some stuff that that
Speaker 1: Josh knew to do that was genius. One introduced Scarlett,
Speaker 1: Whitch and Quicksilver. To kill off Quicksilver. Um, I think
Speaker 1: that that was a really really smart decision, and I
Speaker 1: think both of those actors did a great job. And Scarlett,
Speaker 1: which has been a really great character, to kind of root.
Speaker 1: Why do you think because the whole idea going into
Speaker 1: the Avengers and everybody made this joke talking about your
Speaker 1: dude Hawkeye. Everyone was like, he's a guy with bows
Speaker 1: and arrow like, what is he going to do? There's
Speaker 1: the Hulk, there's Store, what is he going to do?
Speaker 1: So you know, Phil Coulson r I P. Except he's alive,
Speaker 1: was killed in the first Avengers movie, So everybody assumed, Okay,
Speaker 1: Joss is gonna do it again for Avengers to This
Speaker 1: is his m O. He does this in his TV shows.
Speaker 1: He kills off beloved characters. Who's he gonna kill this
Speaker 1: next one? It's gonna be Hawkeye. I heard that. We
Speaker 1: are all hearing that. Like, he felt bad that in
Speaker 1: the first movie, Hawkeye was mainly brainwashed for most of
Speaker 1: the movie by Loki. So he wanted to give Jeremy Renner.
Speaker 1: He wanted to give Hawkeye Clint Barton because he loves
Speaker 1: these characters, like, he wanted to give him some some
Speaker 1: of his you know, screen time. So he did. Then
Speaker 1: we had the scene where we go to the farm
Speaker 1: and meet his wife and his kids and we're like, okay.
Speaker 1: The beginning, he gets hurt, then he gets healed up,
Speaker 1: and they're making jokes about how he's immortal, and the
Speaker 1: whole movie's hinting at the fact that Hawkeye is gonna die.
Speaker 1: Hawky is gonna die. Then at the end he he
Speaker 1: inspires like a good Avenger. Scarlet Witch when she's freaking out,
Speaker 1: this is before she loses her brother, but she's like,
Speaker 1: I can't I can't do He goes, he goes. We're
Speaker 1: on a flying city we're fighting robots and I have
Speaker 1: a bone arrow. None of this makes sense, but if
Speaker 1: you're gonna do this, you need to do this. Otherwise
Speaker 1: just sit here. But like, if you get out there,
Speaker 1: you walk outside those doors, you're an avenger. And he
Speaker 1: did it, and she comes out and she kicks ass,
Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, haw guy's dead. He goes to
Speaker 1: save a little kid and what happens another call back
Speaker 1: to the movie itself. Quicksilver throughout the movie twice has
Speaker 1: been saying, you didn't see that coming. So he saves Hawkeye.
Speaker 1: He dies, and he tells you didn't see that coming,
Speaker 1: tells the audience you didn't see it coming. He dies Scarlett,
Speaker 1: which loses it kind of kills one of the main
Speaker 1: Ultron robots. The Vision saves her when the city's falling,
Speaker 1: which is already starting the hint of like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: Scarlett Witch in the Vision. But I think it was
Speaker 1: a smart introduction to bring those characters into the universe,
Speaker 1: but then remove one because Scarlett Witch is I think,
Speaker 1: you know more are arguably more interesting than Quicksilver. I
Speaker 1: love them both as common. She's more quick, yes, and
Speaker 1: he like goes through his own stuff and he leaves
Speaker 1: and he comes back or whatever. The other things I
Speaker 1: think about this movie that our genius are that Josh
Speaker 1: Weeden knew when even when he was having meetings with
Speaker 1: like the first Avengers movie, he goes, he goes, Okay,
Speaker 1: whether I do this movie or not. The first one
Speaker 1: he should fight Loki. The second one, the Avengers should
Speaker 1: fight Ultron, and then Ultron should build Vision, and then
Speaker 1: you should have Paul Betany come and be the Vision
Speaker 1: because that point Paul Betney was Jarvis and Joss Weed knew.
Speaker 1: He goes because that would be perfect and that's what
Speaker 1: Jarvis should evolve into and it which just makes sense.
Speaker 1: And so that was brilliant. This character, the Vision is fantastic.
Speaker 1: I love Paul Bettany's portrayal of the character. And if
Speaker 1: you rewatch age of Ultron, two scenes to me are perfect.
Speaker 1: The birth of the Vision where he's actually born through
Speaker 1: Tony Stark's technology. You know, Helen chose like body synth,
Speaker 1: you know body a little bit of Bruce Banners tech. Uh.
Speaker 1: Captain America, like the vibranium of of the body is
Speaker 1: may be represented by Captain America's shield also being vibranium
Speaker 1: Thor shows up and hammers it and adds lightning like
Speaker 1: all of the Avengers kind of birth him. He shows up,
Speaker 1: the first person he sees is actually Wanda. She's there,
Speaker 1: Scarlett Witch. Then he flies to the window and he's
Speaker 1: born in a very different way than Old Tron was.
Speaker 1: Ultron was born in like the lower levels of this buildings,
Speaker 1: the AI, and he's sort of born up at the top.
Speaker 1: He's seeing the city at peace. He's not seeing the Internet,
Speaker 1: which is just like humanity is messed up, and old
Speaker 1: Tron was like, oh, I gotta this doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: I gotta fix this. The vision sees everything. Then he
Speaker 1: like grows a cape because he looks at Thor, and
Speaker 1: then he picks up the hammer and he's like, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know how to get you all to
Speaker 1: trust me, but I am on the side of life.
Speaker 1: And then he just like we should go and hands
Speaker 1: hands him the hammer, and that's another callback to scene
Speaker 1: earlier in the movie where they're just messing around trying
Speaker 1: to you know, but nobody can lift the hand. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of smart things happening in this movie. That
Speaker 1: scene is perfect, along with the scene at the end
Speaker 1: where Ultron dies this last drone and the Vision shows
Speaker 1: up and he says, you're the last one. You're afraid.
Speaker 1: He's like of death, of being alone and whatever, and
Speaker 1: he goes, they're doomed. Humans are doing humanities doomed, and
Speaker 1: Vision says, yes, true, but a thing is not beautiful
Speaker 1: because it losts It isn't privilege to be among them.
Speaker 1: There's grace and their failings, and I think you missed that.
Speaker 1: Like it's this beautifully written scene amongst all of this
Speaker 1: chaos and superhero action or whatever. So a lot of
Speaker 1: people didn't dig it. I would implore people maybe to
Speaker 1: give it another shot. But Vision, for me, is a
Speaker 1: big highlight in that movie. I was. I was team
Speaker 1: dig It, and mostly mine was like I like the
Speaker 1: bread comes, but a whole different set of bread crumbs
Speaker 1: because I sniffed the Civil War bread crumbs from the jump,
Speaker 1: and because you know, it was so very similar to
Speaker 1: what happened in the comics Civil War just heroes trying
Speaker 1: to do some stuff causing mass mass destruction and the
Speaker 1: government be like And one thing I do like about
Speaker 1: Civil War, both in the comics and the movies, is
Speaker 1: it's the most grounded thing to ever happen in comics. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how long would this go down without the government trying
Speaker 1: to get involved? And I think it also flips it
Speaker 1: on on the viewers and the readers because when you
Speaker 1: on paper, you think Cat would be on the side
Speaker 1: of the government, and then it and him not being
Speaker 1: on the side of the government is such a strong
Speaker 1: message because everyone thinks that Cap is this agent of
Speaker 1: the government. He's like, no, he's an agent of good,
Speaker 1: which means that if the government is good. And also
Speaker 1: the fact that Cap is willing to go against the
Speaker 1: government is the most American thing you can do, and
Speaker 1: I think people often forget that. I feel like in
Speaker 1: the grand scope, like idea, Yeah, everyone thinks that, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: patriotism is being subservient to whoever's in power in the government,
Speaker 1: and that is not the case. We were. We were
Speaker 1: built on, you know, defiance. So like the fact that
Speaker 1: it's like, no, this isn't right, this is not this
Speaker 1: is this is not good. I have to stand against it.
Speaker 1: And someone like Tony who has always been like the
Speaker 1: opposite where he doesn't like control, he doesn't like he
Speaker 1: is on the side of government because he's the status quo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's such a beautiful just even when he goes against
Speaker 1: the status quo, which is the first iron like the
Speaker 1: beginning of him being Iron Man, or he said, no,
Speaker 1: the suit and I are one. It's me. I don't
Speaker 1: trust anybody with my weapons except for me. He still
Speaker 1: has this mentality of like, well, how can I change
Speaker 1: the He's not trying to affect the status quo. He's
Speaker 1: just sort of controlling it on his own by you know,
Speaker 1: by his own means. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like and and in this movie, and we can just
Speaker 1: skip aunt Man real quick. This is a great film.
Speaker 1: Aunt Man introduces us to Luise. But my favorite moment
Speaker 1: and aunt Man is where at the end of the
Speaker 1: film he goes, I love you, Cassie and then shrinks
Speaker 1: into the micro verse to kill the villain Yellow Jacket,
Speaker 1: or to destroy him, because then he gets trapped in
Speaker 1: that cool little crazy dimension. He has to come back.
Speaker 1: Great little moment, but little moment of self sacrifice from
Speaker 1: Scott Lang. But back to Civil War. It's it is
Speaker 1: really smart. I'm gonna let you tell me that thought
Speaker 1: of the Civil War. Okay, but after these mess and
Speaker 1: we are back. We just landed on Captain American Civil War,
Speaker 1: and Danny had a question about the comments. Oh wait wait,
Speaker 1: I had two things I wanted to say. One was
Speaker 1: aunt Man. I do I like the fact that the
Speaker 1: Wasp got to have her in the second movie, because
Speaker 1: it really didn't frustrate me that it was, like, I
Speaker 1: totally understand the reason. They were like, well, no, he
Speaker 1: Hankpim doesn't want to sacrifice his daughter, so he's but
Speaker 1: I'm like, she's she's so much more well trained than
Speaker 1: this man and this this dumb like Homer Simpson. First,
Speaker 1: I think, I'll give you this if that was the
Speaker 1: movie I love, by the way, but but she deserves her.
Speaker 1: She deserved and if that's her the movie reason was
Speaker 1: is that Hank Pim Michael Douglas didn't want to sacrifice
Speaker 1: his daughter Hope. They could have leaned into that more
Speaker 1: to like make that clearer, make that something that the
Speaker 1: characters actually talk about and work through, and and that
Speaker 1: she still has agency. But that's it's a frustrating thing
Speaker 1: about that movie. But it's also what's to me great
Speaker 1: is that Hope is even in the movie because normally
Speaker 1: from the comic books, Scott Lang's story doesn't involve a
Speaker 1: Wasp like at all, Like it's just aunt Man and
Speaker 1: he just gets the suit from Hank Pim and then
Speaker 1: he just becomes aunt Man and he's worried about like
Speaker 1: helping his daughter, Like that's usually what Scott Lang comics are.
Speaker 1: So the fact that they they're like, Okay, well, Hank
Speaker 1: Pim is married to Janet van Dyne and she's going
Speaker 1: to be lost, So we can't have a Wasp who's
Speaker 1: the same age as Hank Pim if he's not active
Speaker 1: as aunt Man anymore and he's retired, and okay, what's
Speaker 1: the solution. He'll have a daughter. Okay, what's the daughter's name?
Speaker 1: Hope van Dine. That's an obscure comic book character from
Speaker 1: like an alternate future. The point is is that they
Speaker 1: they they essentially created a character of Evangeline Lilie's character
Speaker 1: to be in the movie. It's a bummer that she's
Speaker 1: like a supporting role and not like, you know, the same,
Speaker 1: uh title the same. It wasn't like split down the middle.
Speaker 1: And I think that they try to sort of fix
Speaker 1: that with ant Man in the Wasp the sequel, which
Speaker 1: is cool, And I think they were always planning to
Speaker 1: have a Wasp in the m c U. But they,
Speaker 1: you know, they initially started planning this Scott Lang Stories
Speaker 1: being a heist movie and it's it's it's aunt Man's movie.
Speaker 1: And you know again, they even saved the Giant Man
Speaker 1: moment for Captain America Civil War where he turns out
Speaker 1: into the airport. He didn't go giant in the first
Speaker 1: aunt Man movie, but in this Captain America Civil War
Speaker 1: at the airport, he goes, oh, when he tried something out,
Speaker 1: he goes, it's okay, I've only tried this a couple
Speaker 1: of times. And then he had a cool trick that
Speaker 1: he did and he held onto war machine as he
Speaker 1: was fighting everybody. Um, again, you can you can't sort
Speaker 1: of you know, blow everything in the first film. Kind
Speaker 1: like they're pretty good at like sort of saying it.
Speaker 1: But you're totally right that hope Vandyne Wasp could have
Speaker 1: done more or at least it could have been better explained.
Speaker 1: So um but yeah, oh, I was just gonna say
Speaker 1: my question because Civil War the comics came out in
Speaker 1: like two thousand six, I believe, um and Incredibles came
Speaker 1: out in two thousand four, and you're a big brad
Speaker 1: Bird Person, and I feel like those have similar It's
Speaker 1: kind of fascinating to me, like the government stepping in
Speaker 1: and saying, you superheroes are actually causing more harm than good.
Speaker 1: No more supers, Yeah, yeah, no more super That's also
Speaker 1: an idea from Watchman Alan Moore's six like, and I
Speaker 1: think even in some Marvel in some DC comics, even
Speaker 1: before Watchman, they sort of hinted at and explored at
Speaker 1: certain stuff. I know that maybe it was in the
Speaker 1: eighties two, but there was a superhero group in d
Speaker 1: C comics in World War two active during World War
Speaker 1: Two called the Justice Society of America. And then they
Speaker 1: revealed later that during the fifties, McCarthy is m forced
Speaker 1: them to hang up their cape because they didn't want
Speaker 1: to reveal their secret identities, and they were you know,
Speaker 1: are you are you Commies? Are you Reds? And they're like,
Speaker 1: you know what this is, BS, Like, We're gonna We're
Speaker 1: not gonna work for the government. We're gonna retire from
Speaker 1: being superheroes. So so that idea has kind of been
Speaker 1: floating around. But really the Incredibles, you know, did a
Speaker 1: great job of mainstreaming it, and Civil War the movie
Speaker 1: is different but similar in spirit to the comic book, right,
Speaker 1: the details are different, the details are different. Quick, just
Speaker 1: sidebar question, just because it brought this up on Candy Dinner.
Speaker 1: And I feel a certain way, and I'm curious to
Speaker 1: what everyone at the table feels. What did you think
Speaker 1: about the switch of the endings in um in the
Speaker 1: movie versus the comic book and you're referring a watchman.
Speaker 1: I thought it was fine. I think it's I think
Speaker 1: that alien squid is kind of a tough sell with
Speaker 1: with me. I think it's the it's the only true one.
Speaker 1: And here's why, because because I literally had this discussion.
Speaker 1: It's like, sure, you can make this bomb look like
Speaker 1: it was doctor Manhattan no matter what. At some point
Speaker 1: in time, doctor Manhattan was an agent of the US,
Speaker 1: so the other country with still there's still someone to
Speaker 1: blame that. You'd be like, whereas the squid, if it's
Speaker 1: out of this world, there's no one to blame you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have no other choice than like we have to
Speaker 1: bind together. That's why it was kind of silly to me.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, that that's why I thought it
Speaker 1: was great, Like, yeah, it was like silly, but it
Speaker 1: but at its core, the point that More was making
Speaker 1: did ring true. If there is some extraterrestrial force that
Speaker 1: no one can pinpoint, can no one can blame, and
Speaker 1: one can say, yeah, it has no other choice but
Speaker 1: to unify the world. I get that. Yeah, we'll see
Speaker 1: what the HBO show. Have you been enjoying Doomsday Clock.
Speaker 1: I've only read a couple issues, and yes, I thought
Speaker 1: that was so good. The answer is yes. Um, I
Speaker 1: kind of want to wait till the whole thing is
Speaker 1: done and read all twelve. But I think that it
Speaker 1: works as a really, really great I don't know if
Speaker 1: it works as a sequel to Watchman, but for me,
Speaker 1: it works as a great commentary on the impact that
Speaker 1: Watchman has had in comics, and specifically d C comics
Speaker 1: since it came out in where everything has become dark
Speaker 1: and pretty and it's fascinating. So really want to see
Speaker 1: how that whole thing plays out. But I've enjoyed what
Speaker 1: I read so far. Yeah. Yeah, So for people that
Speaker 1: don't know, you can read Doomsday Clock on the DC
Speaker 1: app right where you can catch Hector. It is the
Speaker 1: app I believe DC Daily. Um, but you can also
Speaker 1: catch to give me that all right? I might be
Speaker 1: able to you know what, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: grab food with her soon. Okay, okay, that's right, that's right. Yeah. Wait,
Speaker 1: so we went into Civil War America Civil War. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this moment in that introduction for Spider Man, for me,
Speaker 1: that thing made me cry. That scene that's one where
Speaker 1: he's in his apartment and he's just like, if you
Speaker 1: don't do the things that you can do and then
Speaker 1: the people get hurt, then it's your fault. Bad things happened,
Speaker 1: then it's your fault. That's that was like that summed
Speaker 1: it up. I love Spider Man movie. I love Black
Speaker 1: Panther in that movie. Two huge introductions of characters in
Speaker 1: big ways, and they and they added to the story.
Speaker 1: They added to the narrative. Tony Stark taking Peter Parker
Speaker 1: and putting hitting him against Captain America. Fascinating. What's going
Speaker 1: on with that that would later lead into their relationship
Speaker 1: been Spider Man Homecoming and Black Panther on his own
Speaker 1: redemption arc and learning not to to let vengeance consume him,
Speaker 1: which was a great moment, and it led into what
Speaker 1: Baron's Emo was going through. And again all of that
Speaker 1: spinning out of the events of Age of Ultron with
Speaker 1: Zekovia and stuff. So this when Captain America Silvil War
Speaker 1: came out, I was like, this is my favorite Marvel movie.
Speaker 1: Like it checked all the boxes for me. It was
Speaker 1: so fun and entertaining while still having a great Captain
Speaker 1: America story at its core and one thing far away
Speaker 1: and it was it was three years ago. And the
Speaker 1: one thing I want to say is when it came out,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of comic book fans who kind
Speaker 1: of you included If you included, what did I say?
Speaker 1: You were like, it's not as good as the comic.
Speaker 1: The comic had a bunch of characters, whatever, whatever, bring
Speaker 1: back all right. I will say that a time has
Speaker 1: brought wisdom to your boy. And because because I remember
Speaker 1: the big beef was like that that airport Tarma versus
Speaker 1: like the big fight you see in Comic War. There's
Speaker 1: just literally no page space and people being like, we
Speaker 1: went from this to this, And I think it has
Speaker 1: been just time and just seeing the effect that you know,
Speaker 1: I think things like the fact that Grandma's no who
Speaker 1: thanos is that that tarmac scene? I think I said
Speaker 1: this last week was as big as that page spread
Speaker 1: for people who only saw the movie. It's a double
Speaker 1: page spread in comics. That's what that whole scene isn't
Speaker 1: it is? That was three years ago. I was talking
Speaker 1: that spicy Yeah. Look, look, I'm I'm I'm I'm man
Speaker 1: enough to say I was wrong back then. Uh, and
Speaker 1: I might be wrong about some stuff that I'm saying now,
Speaker 1: but but yeah, no, yeah, but but I do remember
Speaker 1: I was very underwhelmed. But like seeing the scope. I
Speaker 1: think it was seeing like what we have accomplished with
Speaker 1: Infinity War and how far we were going with movies
Speaker 1: and just making more stuff, you know, like in in
Speaker 1: the time that have come writing television, right, you know,
Speaker 1: shooting things. To know the difficulty that comes to what like,
Speaker 1: I think that that's an element that we don't even
Speaker 1: get to really dive into. Is like what they're doing,
Speaker 1: just even on a technical filmmaking level is insane. It
Speaker 1: is so hard and to I mean just the money
Speaker 1: to pay all these people. It's just because we're not
Speaker 1: talking about like just some newcomers. We're talking about stars
Speaker 1: and at the same time making stars. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: achieved to the airport scene, which is a highlight for
Speaker 1: me for Captain America Civil War as well. It's UM people.
Speaker 1: I think when they realized that they were like, they
Speaker 1: felt like they were ripped off when they're like most
Speaker 1: of those characters were fully c G. I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: incredible because they X right, I have yeah, And they
Speaker 1: they did a scene, they did a scene of two
Speaker 1: sides of characters running at each other and fighting, and
Speaker 1: they were juggling all that in the daytime, in the
Speaker 1: middle of the day in an airport. These are things
Speaker 1: that we know what they look like with our eyes,
Speaker 1: Like we know what lighting looks like, we know what
Speaker 1: natural lighting looks, we know what we know what characters
Speaker 1: look like that are running and jumping and getting attacked
Speaker 1: and hit. So for as many characters as there are
Speaker 1: that are like CG, like Iron Man, War Machine, Um,
Speaker 1: Spider Man, Black Panther has a lot of CG. Ant
Speaker 1: Man with the full helmet and everything mixed with characters
Speaker 1: and stuntmen and actors like Captain America, Scarlet Witch, Hawkeye, Like,
Speaker 1: it's mind blowing. How awesome that scene is. I really
Speaker 1: dig it up. Next we have Doctor Strange. This is
Speaker 1: I've been reading these great Um I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: My favorite moment is when the ancient one, the ancient
Speaker 1: one dies. I think it's beautiful till the Swinton. I
Speaker 1: still you know, there's still obvious issues with that casting.
Speaker 1: But this movie as a whole, even though it's still
Speaker 1: is a part of the sort of white savior male
Speaker 1: narrative thing that is like, uh, you know, unfortunately a
Speaker 1: historical thing in Hollywood. Um. Doctor Strange is the first
Speaker 1: Marvel movie that starts to move away from the typical
Speaker 1: western action movie solution to the problem. At the end
Speaker 1: of this movie, he the city is already destroyed, and
Speaker 1: he uses the timestone to reverse everything and actually save
Speaker 1: Hong Kong. And then he goes and has that great
Speaker 1: scene with Dormamu where he's like, dormam who have come
Speaker 1: to bar, I'm here to bargain. Everybody remembers that scene.
Speaker 1: Everybody remembers that Dr Strange, Stephen Strange is willing to
Speaker 1: die over and over, maybe thousands of times, maybe millions
Speaker 1: before dorm was like enough, what is what's happening? Which
Speaker 1: is such a great so solve to like the third act,
Speaker 1: gotta destroy the big bad, which happens in every single
Speaker 1: one of these movies, and part of that movie is
Speaker 1: that this character, Stephen Strange, has to reject some of
Speaker 1: the ways of his life and embrace like Eastern philosophy.
Speaker 1: It's not the strongest example of that, but it's in
Speaker 1: there and it's cool. And I've been reading these great
Speaker 1: articles that you guys should be reading by a writer.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you who he is right now, but
Speaker 1: it is a Road to Endgame and it's on slash
Speaker 1: film dot com and the uh the this writer has
Speaker 1: been putting out every week day and by the time
Speaker 1: you're listening to this, they're all all out, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: so you can just go and read them all. Starting
Speaker 1: from iron Man one, he talks about what these movies do?
Speaker 1: What the hell? I just gotta pop up ad that's
Speaker 1: so annoying. Well, I'll just do this um politically, what
Speaker 1: the movies in the m c u UM say represent? Yes, do,
Speaker 1: But do you mean that there's politics and the like?
Speaker 1: He politics out of comic books. Comic books, Hector, have
Speaker 1: never been political politics. Let me tell you right now
Speaker 1: how many politics are in how many politics? Iron Man,
Speaker 1: iron Man too, Captain America, The Winter Soldier, and Captain
Speaker 1: Marvel were all partly funded by the Pentagon, like they
Speaker 1: are literal propaganda, where like the US government signs are
Speaker 1: you well Captain Marvel's premier. She had like over a
Speaker 1: hundred service workers there, like a big part of the
Speaker 1: Air Force was there. They actually worked on the film.
Speaker 1: They helped it make it more authentic. They had Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a huge It was a huge deal. It
Speaker 1: was funny because there was like this article where George R.
Speaker 1: Art Benton said something like he was like, oh, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you can see that Game of Thrones. The politics in
Speaker 1: it is mirroring what you see every day. And someone
Speaker 1: was like, don't make this political. Like the Arthur is
Speaker 1: literally one telling you it's political too. If you've read it,
Speaker 1: it's a story about politics. Uh. And then three, It's
Speaker 1: like one thing that people often forget because I, um,
Speaker 1: I remember I was talking about this when I did
Speaker 1: h Fantasy Flix League. It was a movie pod and
Speaker 1: I was saying, how like you know us uh you
Speaker 1: know Jordan. People was trying to say, it's not like
Speaker 1: super political, and then they're like, well, art is inherently political,
Speaker 1: and that is true. And that's something that we often
Speaker 1: forget is like in good art, we are always trying
Speaker 1: to say something and that in itself will inherently be political,
Speaker 1: Like especially you know, people go so crazy with like
Speaker 1: dysotopean cyberpunk stuff, not knowing that it is a takedown
Speaker 1: on capitalism. Lots of times, you know, so and and
Speaker 1: and lots of times it has been recently very mas
Speaker 1: tratory of this, like how cool it would be if capitalism,
Speaker 1: like you know, took over. But anyway, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry that we're another but we're turning into that s
Speaker 1: j W. Cast's part of these movies. What I wanted
Speaker 1: to say is that your favorite filmmakers, you wouldn't have
Speaker 1: these stories without them being influenced by politics. And that's
Speaker 1: why people like George Lucas or George R. Martin, like
Speaker 1: they're influenced by what's politically happening in the world around
Speaker 1: them enough to create villains that are mirroring real life villains.
Speaker 1: So this series again one last time, Road to Endgame.
Speaker 1: It's on Slash Film. It is by Siddant Laca, and
Speaker 1: I apologize if I mispronounced your name, Siddant, but they're
Speaker 1: fantastic essays that you should go and read every single one.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at This Road to Endgame flor Regnrock
Speaker 1: is a superhero comedy about the horrors of colonialism. I
Speaker 1: think you've been tweeing about him there Secret one. They're great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're all course tyke of course. Oh we could get
Speaker 1: into that. But where are Gardens of the Galaxy Volume two?
Speaker 1: I know I didn't do nothing right, but oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we're happy. He was my boy maybe and your father,
Speaker 1: but you and your daddy, your daddy his Mary Popman cry.
Speaker 1: Yeah that I remember. I didn't. That's another Marvel movie
Speaker 1: I got late to and I washed it on an airplane,
Speaker 1: sitting next to it was meant to be sitting crying
Speaker 1: right next to Ronnie. Just let you didn't know you
Speaker 1: will sleep, And so I was like trying so hard,
Speaker 1: not because I was like, I don't want to deal
Speaker 1: with this. Dude's seeing me cry. So I was like
Speaker 1: speaking of toxic masculine like it's it's all good fun roasting.
Speaker 1: He's not like seriously being but it would I would
Speaker 1: not have heard the end of it as we were
Speaker 1: in another state for a comedy fest. So I'm like
Speaker 1: washing if that my gosh, it reminds me of the
Speaker 1: scene from Fresh Prince of bel Air. Why why doesn't
Speaker 1: he love me? Why why don't he want me? Don't
Speaker 1: want me? Don't start with that. Damn, I'm sorry, but
Speaker 1: it okay. So my favorite got so iconic. The opening,
Speaker 1: Yes that man, yes, with group dancing and everybody like
Speaker 1: everything going to chaos behind everybody trying to be a
Speaker 1: parent to group and that was hi, James Gunn. Was
Speaker 1: he was dancing as group? Sure? Yeah the motion capture, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: If he wasn't doing it for that scene, he's done
Speaker 1: it for a bunch of group stuff. And that's a
Speaker 1: fantastic opening. I love the scene where Drax talks about
Speaker 1: his family and he is sad but not crying, and
Speaker 1: then Mantis, who's a great character, like is empathetically feeling
Speaker 1: and she's just sobbing and he's just sitting there like
Speaker 1: very content thinking about his family being dead. I love
Speaker 1: the stuff between Gomera and Nebula that she finally admits
Speaker 1: to her like and you just wanted to beat me
Speaker 1: and I just wanted a sister. The sister stuff that
Speaker 1: happened to the end of this movie where they hug
Speaker 1: kind of like it always gets me. And my favorite
Speaker 1: thing about the movie is that. The last shot is
Speaker 1: Rocket Raccoon looking at the at the Ravager funeral that
Speaker 1: Yondu gets and he's realizing he can have love. He'll
Speaker 1: he'll be loved at his funeral, even though he's this
Speaker 1: little bastard who pushes people away. Like it's such a
Speaker 1: it's it's just so emotionally rich that movie. There's so
Speaker 1: much happening there. I really love Guardians too. I just
Speaker 1: rewatched it and it's great. So yeah, great movie. Now
Speaker 1: let's go to Spider Man Homecoming. Love this film. Love
Speaker 1: the scene where Peter Parker hypes himself up by saying,
Speaker 1: come on, Spider Man, Come on, Spider Man. That's a
Speaker 1: great moment. Donald Glover in the m c U is
Speaker 1: a great moment. It's so funny. He's like, what, I'm
Speaker 1: not a girl, I'm a boy. I mean, I'm a
Speaker 1: mar But the best moment, Hector, yeah, that Green the
Speaker 1: red Light scene, the red Light scene, Michael King when
Speaker 1: he realizes that Peter Parker's Spiderman. It's great. It's so great.
Speaker 1: One thing I do like about it is necessarily that twist.
Speaker 1: I think everyone talks about that twist because the twist
Speaker 1: in it, it just plays with human expectations like it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a twist. There's no reason we shouldn't have
Speaker 1: expected Vulture to be her father other than the fact
Speaker 1: that we're not used to mixed families, and so they
Speaker 1: used that information that that's that's the greatest twist. When
Speaker 1: it's not something that they were actively hiding, it was
Speaker 1: something they knew would be hitting hidden just because of
Speaker 1: social perception. I can use the excuse of like, well,
Speaker 1: my comic book brain was telling me, you know, the
Speaker 1: Vulture doesn't have a daughter named Liz, and it Liz.
Speaker 1: His last name in the comics is Alan. That was
Speaker 1: my dumb comic book brain. But it was also my
Speaker 1: own biases, my own like inherent racist thinking that like
Speaker 1: a white dad can have a mixed or black daughter,
Speaker 1: like that's that was part of it. So when he
Speaker 1: opened the door, he's like, hey, you must be the
Speaker 1: you know, used to get Liz. I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, Like they got well, it's well, it's great
Speaker 1: because it's all like them doing this is combatant. Why
Speaker 1: you would think that you just don't see it on TV.
Speaker 1: You don't see you know, when you go out, you
Speaker 1: you go out the public now you look scroll, you'll
Speaker 1: see lots of white fathers with black kids, and you know,
Speaker 1: but because you don't see it on TV, you just
Speaker 1: don't expect to see it. It's like when you first
Speaker 1: start watching Doctor Who and you're like, all these interracial
Speaker 1: couples that they had more interracial couples in one episode
Speaker 1: of Doctor Who than America has had in years. You know,
Speaker 1: likes television, Yeah, it's British television. Really really, I love
Speaker 1: I love Zandia as MJ. Full stop, full period, full stop.
Speaker 1: She's fantastic and I love this version of the character
Speaker 1: where she's just so sarcastic and so funny. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to see because I'm an m
Speaker 1: J guy with Peter Parker and MJ. That's my O
Speaker 1: t P. Two kids say, I feel like I'm just
Speaker 1: repeating myself thor ragnarot Um, here's what I can actually,
Speaker 1: I can actually this, man. I think one of my
Speaker 1: favorite is I'll Steal from Danny, which is that opening,
Speaker 1: which is just seeing because you know, especially with a
Speaker 1: lot of like these comic book movies, the tempo of
Speaker 1: it is like they never really fully flex until the end,
Speaker 1: until they had that moment where you have Thorn just
Speaker 1: flexing at the top of the movie being dope. And
Speaker 1: that's kind of like the Thorn that I read where
Speaker 1: he's just this overpowered but kind of dumb guy. So
Speaker 1: what do you do? You take his hammer away? You
Speaker 1: have Hella break his hammer. You have Hella played by
Speaker 1: Cate Blanchett, beautifully be more powerful than up agreed, and
Speaker 1: she shows up as a as as as A as
Speaker 1: a remnant of Odin's legacy, and Odin as a character
Speaker 1: was trying to sort of do better, you know, in
Speaker 1: the later years, centuries of his life or whatever. But
Speaker 1: like he how did Asgar become Asgard? They apparently conquered
Speaker 1: people like that, Like that's the effects of colonialism and um,
Speaker 1: and so to have my big, big favorite moment of
Speaker 1: mine is at the end where where Thora is seeing
Speaker 1: his dad and Odin tells him like are you are
Speaker 1: you god of hammers? What are you? What are you again?
Speaker 1: And he's the god of thunder and so he's able
Speaker 1: to come back. You get the you get the song playing,
Speaker 1: and then he goes and fights everybody and he realizes
Speaker 1: that he thor makes a decision to try and destroy Asgard.
Speaker 1: And do better and while still protecting the people to
Speaker 1: um to take away any power that Hella had from
Speaker 1: being close to this place that you know, gave her
Speaker 1: the power. Here's something I want to bring up to
Speaker 1: I didn't realize this until I read that essay by
Speaker 1: Sedant the The Road to End Game Um. Traditionally in
Speaker 1: the comics, Valkyrie is blonde. She's a white character played
Speaker 1: by Tessa Thompson who is of Afro Panamanian descent, I believe.
Speaker 1: And she's got tattoos and she also has a drinking problem.
Speaker 1: These are two things that are apparently real things that
Speaker 1: are part of Maori culture that affect populations that were
Speaker 1: like indigenous people, you know, transported or transplanted because of
Speaker 1: colonialism in Australia and in New Zealand alcoholism especially, which
Speaker 1: I didn't realize until I read this. I was like,
Speaker 1: whole the crap. They have a whole arc with Valkyrie
Speaker 1: where she embraces her cultural roots. At the end, she
Speaker 1: takes on the sort of traditional garb of a valkyrie.
Speaker 1: She you know, she puts it on and when she
Speaker 1: comes and finally arrives back at Asgard at her home,
Speaker 1: there's fireworks playing there's fireworks happening, and then the ship
Speaker 1: behind her has it's like red and black and yellow,
Speaker 1: which are the colors of the Aboriginal flag in New
Speaker 1: Zealand or Australia. Like those kinds of things that I
Speaker 1: don't know because I'm a I'm from the United States.
Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with that sort of cultural history and
Speaker 1: what he's tapping into. But I think the preferred term
Speaker 1: is first people's first people, Yeah, right, right, exactly, first people.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot happening here that is still like
Speaker 1: this really funny, fun space, you know, with characters like
Speaker 1: Cord hey Man like this just like a really fun,
Speaker 1: silly adventure. But there's a lot of deeper stuff here
Speaker 1: that um tay t is the first director of color
Speaker 1: that the Marvel Cinematic universe highed to come in, and
Speaker 1: then the one afterwards, Ryan Coogler, now the one of
Speaker 1: my favorite director just Smolder Oakland, um Black Panther. I
Speaker 1: can't remember if you if we if we must have
Speaker 1: talked about this again last week. I'm sorry, I keep
Speaker 1: repeating myself. If we talked about the origins of Wakonda
Speaker 1: in Marvel Comics before or after we saw the movie.
Speaker 1: We talked about it before before called it, and we
Speaker 1: basically essentially called kill Monger's art Yes I Will, I Will,
Speaker 1: which is on record that we called that arc because
Speaker 1: we had that conversation on the internet before the movie.
Speaker 1: Why didn't Wakonda help other enslaved Africans? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: during was like, wait till y'all see this exactly. Uh,
Speaker 1: I love this movie. Highlights for me are anything with
Speaker 1: a Koyer. She's fantastic, Sherry being like so charming and
Speaker 1: so funny, where she's like can we wrap it up?
Speaker 1: I'm you know, can we wrap it up? Which is
Speaker 1: apparently a line written by Donald Glover who came in
Speaker 1: and helped with the script. During ta Challa's like coronation
Speaker 1: at the beginning and then the scene. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of kill Monger great moments, but for me, the museum
Speaker 1: scene at the beginning, again this isn't a big mainstream
Speaker 1: superhero movie, where he's like, no, this is from Wakonda
Speaker 1: and she's like, no, this belongs to the museum. He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: where do you think your ancestors got it from? They
Speaker 1: bought it? Like I'm like, dang, there, I think I
Speaker 1: think four times in theaters all I can think. I
Speaker 1: was like, damn, how many times did that go? Back
Speaker 1: and forth? They're like, hey, can y'all change this? And nah,
Speaker 1: I'd like to. I'd like to think, not a whole lot,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I'd like to. I don't
Speaker 1: know what that process would have been like. But the
Speaker 1: thing that makes me excited is like, the stuff that's
Speaker 1: in the movie is in the movie, and kids are
Speaker 1: going to grow up listening to those ideas and oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, when they get to school ask questions,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, well, because those type of things are hard
Speaker 1: to to talk about. It's almost like that um that
Speaker 1: like Huge Players Tribune that came out where one of
Speaker 1: the white basketball players came out and was like I
Speaker 1: am privileged, and he was like, I am not responsible
Speaker 1: for the sins of my ancestors, but I do benefit
Speaker 1: from them, like pair of phrasing. And it's that's like
Speaker 1: a hard situation to have because then you're like, you
Speaker 1: you don't want to lose anything for something you feel
Speaker 1: like you don't have a part of. But it's like, nah,
Speaker 1: give that statue back, Nah, give that, but you did
Speaker 1: take that. Even it doesn't matter if you paid for it,
Speaker 1: you didn't get it from any means, Like if if
Speaker 1: if you found out that I that I if I
Speaker 1: bought your car from someone and we find out that
Speaker 1: it was stolen from you, that doesn't mean I get
Speaker 1: to keep it, right, I would like that car back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and even just a little conversation about museums,
Speaker 1: what they represent, what the historically, what they do. Like
Speaker 1: after even watching that scene, it made me go, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, there needs to be more of an
Speaker 1: effort of like building beautiful museums in you know, countries
Speaker 1: of origin and having those people like take care of
Speaker 1: their own stuff like That's that there should be more
Speaker 1: of an effort for that. And it would be cool
Speaker 1: if um you know, oh my god, did that I
Speaker 1: just forgot my favorite scene, the introduction of Umbaku Winston
Speaker 1: do holy crap? I mean also that like changed his
Speaker 1: entire career. Oh yeah, I think I was reading somewhere
Speaker 1: that like at the premiere was where Jordan Peele met
Speaker 1: him and then they ended up you want to be
Speaker 1: in my movie? Yeah, exactly a premiere. Look, you could
Speaker 1: have come with me, could have come I can imagine
Speaker 1: with me. Well, thank you I'm serious because I think
Speaker 1: that you can do I love what Winston didn't a
Speaker 1: movie us, but I love I love that those actors
Speaker 1: got to play two characters affect you. And I loved
Speaker 1: his like nerdy, cheesy dad dad and don't take this
Speaker 1: wrong way if he I think you can do that.
Speaker 1: But I also think you're capable of all of that
Speaker 1: other stuff. So like, yeah, it could have been you, man,
Speaker 1: you should have gone to the premiere. Yeah, I met
Speaker 1: Ryan Coogler at the at the Infinity War premiere because, um,
Speaker 1: he's friends with Jacqueline Cooley, who's one of my friends,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna you're gonna be in Black Panther too.
Speaker 1: Well know is that he took the time to talk
Speaker 1: to me. It's all he's the guy. Yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was really sweet and kind. I'd be surprised if a
Speaker 1: dude as Oakland as Coogler would would like be Hollywood
Speaker 1: he seems. And that was what really this the release
Speaker 1: of Black Panther, and not even just the release, watching
Speaker 1: all the interviews of it really kind of like shifted
Speaker 1: my whole energy towards my career. Like this is just
Speaker 1: a more meta talk, but like watching these these like
Speaker 1: interviews and seeing like Coogler not code switch talking this
Speaker 1: like very Oakland accent. Like even when he did like
Speaker 1: he had a Vanity Fair where he was breaking down
Speaker 1: the casino fight scene, he was like and then you
Speaker 1: have her take off the wig and it's like boom
Speaker 1: boom boom, and it's like like I knew what he
Speaker 1: was saying, but it was very there was not cod
Speaker 1: whiting to scroll down and people be like, this guy's
Speaker 1: a genius. It really was like, wow, we really are
Speaker 1: like making strides. And then it also kind of let
Speaker 1: me know that it is very important for me to
Speaker 1: be authentic. Like you Authenticity is important because it it
Speaker 1: you know, there's a part of your brain because you know,
Speaker 1: we spent most of our life up until this point
Speaker 1: trying to acclimate and try and you know, make others comfortable.
Speaker 1: But the but seeing that and seeing that, like you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: nobody can say he's not a genius because everyone saw
Speaker 1: the movie. Everyone's seen and even before Black Panthers, we
Speaker 1: had Creed. Even before Creed, you had you know, so
Speaker 1: like he has set the track record to be like
Speaker 1: you can't knock what I'm saying and how I'm saying
Speaker 1: it because the proof is in the pudden and that's
Speaker 1: when I it totally shift from me and I've just
Speaker 1: kind of, I know, from that moment, I've just been
Speaker 1: more open with my thoughts and just talking the way
Speaker 1: I talk and being who I am, you know, because
Speaker 1: it just showed me the importance of authenticity, because if
Speaker 1: you are code switching and acclimating to make others feel comfortable,
Speaker 1: you aren't truly giving the representation to inspire to the
Speaker 1: people who need to hear it. Yeah, it's a good point. Um. Also,
Speaker 1: the only film of this franchise that was nominated for
Speaker 1: an Academy Award for Best Picture and did when um
Speaker 1: Ruthie Carter. Yeah, oh yeah, that one. That was amazing.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that that one. Yeah, that was great.
Speaker 1: So it's great. Last but not least, we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about the one movie we didn't talk about last time. Well,
Speaker 1: I guess we talked about it, but yeah, um, I
Speaker 1: love when the Red Skull showed up. Oh great, he
Speaker 1: hid that for a very long time, but he was
Speaker 1: at the premiere. I'm like, oh, that's cool that they
Speaker 1: asked the Walking Dead guy to show up. He's in
Speaker 1: the movie. He's in the movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was great. Um. I do remember asking him and
Speaker 1: I think he said everybody asked him, dude, why didn't
Speaker 1: you tell me? And then I was later like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: never mind, you can't. You couldn't. It was like, literally,
Speaker 1: that's the type of thing because I wonder who, because
Speaker 1: if you think of like if you get into a
Speaker 1: major franchise like Star Wars, Marvel, like you do think
Speaker 1: like who would you tell? Like would I just be
Speaker 1: like Danny, I'm gonna be out for a few I
Speaker 1: can't tell you. But I just no look for me.
Speaker 1: And honestly, the only reason I didn't tell anyone about
Speaker 1: because I don't it didn't he didn't make me sign
Speaker 1: an n d A for Ralph. I don't think and
Speaker 1: I will say and I don't want to say, but
Speaker 1: like it didn't happen necessarily early in the like you
Speaker 1: you sort of came on in the summer, in the summer.
Speaker 1: It came out in November. November, which is time that
Speaker 1: I was silent about. And also that guy that like,
Speaker 1: I've had people like trash me online and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I wish I could tell you, but no, the only
Speaker 1: reason I didn't say anything really was because I was
Speaker 1: afraid it would get cut and then I would look right,
Speaker 1: which is which is? It happens all the time. People
Speaker 1: get cut from scenes. Um, even Ross. He may have
Speaker 1: been cut in red Skull like you never know, you know,
Speaker 1: he may have been cut his red skull where we're like,
Speaker 1: we gotta move this sequence around. Okay, Um, that was great? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Infinity War. I loved all the humor. I've said this before,
Speaker 1: you know, I understand that it was upsetting, slash, traumatic, slash,
Speaker 1: sad for people. But I laughed so much through this
Speaker 1: film that How did you react to the end though?
Speaker 1: Do you remember when Fanos did it and then people
Speaker 1: started to disappear? Were you laughing? Still laughing? When when
Speaker 1: Bucky died? Laughed? Okay, listen the worst I didn't laugh, Listen.
Speaker 1: I was giggling a tiny bit at the person in
Speaker 1: front of me who was freaking out about it happening.
Speaker 1: And I understand, but I just knew it would be okay,
Speaker 1: come on, like like we know a lot of these characters,
Speaker 1: all right. I'm more concerned with the with endgames, you
Speaker 1: couldn't let yourself you get taken away by those storytelling.
Speaker 1: I was. I was there, but it was a little
Speaker 1: I wasn't laughing, No, I was. I felt for them.
Speaker 1: The biggest part was Rocket and grout. That was. That
Speaker 1: was the last thing he said, was right. The last
Speaker 1: thing he said was was he said, I am group,
Speaker 1: but you know what that was supposed to have? Wait? No,
Speaker 1: what was it? Dad? Yes, Oh that's rough got me.
Speaker 1: That one was really hard, and of course everybody, I know,
Speaker 1: everybody felt really I don't want to go. It was sad,
Speaker 1: but I mean I know that he's coming back for
Speaker 1: two pictures. But um, okay, it was I I get it.
Speaker 1: I totally get it. I'm not saying I loved it.
Speaker 1: It was one of my favorite Marvel films of all time.
Speaker 1: I'm not. It's hard for me to look. I'm a
Speaker 1: dragon Ball fan. We got we get our heroes wish
Speaker 1: back all the time, so like it's hard for me
Speaker 1: to feel those deaths were there. Collect the balls and
Speaker 1: listen to Disney bought Fox, so just put the dragon
Speaker 1: balls in there. Um, I don't think Fox has the
Speaker 1: dragon balls anymore? Do they think they got? Talking to
Speaker 1: Cinema they have? Maybe you're right, who has the dragon Ball, right,
Speaker 1: somebody has the movie right to toy, of course, but
Speaker 1: they would there's no way that they studio has it still.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll have to do some research. Okay,
Speaker 1: but no, this makes me sound like a horrible person.
Speaker 1: It's not that the final moments weren't. But I'm giving
Speaker 1: you a hard time because I didn't cry. I totally
Speaker 1: see what you're where you're coming from, because we are,
Speaker 1: We're tapped in, We're aware of what's going to Contracts
Speaker 1: Part one. And even when Infinity Gauntlet the comic book
Speaker 1: came out, it was only like a month or two
Speaker 1: weight before everybody got brought back after Thanos actually snapped it.
Speaker 1: This is impressive because it's actually a year like and
Speaker 1: it's it might not be three years again like Empire
Speaker 1: Strikes Back to Return of the Jedi, but but for
Speaker 1: a movie this size, this scale of the scope, I
Speaker 1: will say this. I think that the Infinity Gauntlet Saga,
Speaker 1: the Infinity War movie going into Endgame is going to
Speaker 1: be something that people watch five years from now as
Speaker 1: they're doing their rewatches, or they go back and revisit it,
Speaker 1: or they're going to show their kids for the first
Speaker 1: time and when you see Endgame in that context where
Speaker 1: you're just gonna be sitting down and it happened, you know, five, six,
Speaker 1: eight years ago, and you rewatch Endgame, or you watch
Speaker 1: Infinity Warren at the end, everybody snaps, you're gonna be like, dang,
Speaker 1: I know I'm about to pop in the next movie
Speaker 1: and it'll be fine, But dang, my kid doesn't know that.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like. It's good. It's It's the same
Speaker 1: way people now will watch The Empire strikes back and
Speaker 1: Han Solo gets frozen and you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We're like, oh, I see what you mean. It'll it will.
Speaker 1: It will have a different meaning and feel and impact
Speaker 1: when you go back and revisit it and what it
Speaker 1: says in the larger scheme of things. And I also
Speaker 1: think that it will when you go back and reflect.
Speaker 1: Depending on how Endgame is gonna shake out, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be sadder because Endgames not about well, we've got to
Speaker 1: get everybody back, the rest of the characters and how
Speaker 1: they're coping and so. And we haven't seen that movie yet,
Speaker 1: but actually you have your at the premiere last night,
Speaker 1: so you saw it. But the End Game is about there.
Speaker 1: It's in the future. I want you to know, as
Speaker 1: I'm recording this, I haven't seen it, so I can't
Speaker 1: technically spoil anything, So please don't get mad at me
Speaker 1: because I haven't seen it as of this recording right
Speaker 1: now at this moment. But um, I think I think
Speaker 1: it will actually be sadder because because I don't think
Speaker 1: some of these characters are to survive. So I think
Speaker 1: that that will be that will be difficult to see
Speaker 1: even if they are brought back, maybe they don't make
Speaker 1: it or some of the ones that did survive don't
Speaker 1: make it. And I think this might be like one
Speaker 1: of our This would be like one of our final
Speaker 1: films with us and essentially died. He got his next
Speaker 1: snap behind all. Yeah, a bunch of as Guardians, like
Speaker 1: they're gone, We're not used. One thing I will say,
Speaker 1: probably the last thing I will say, is the coolest
Speaker 1: thing about finally seeing the trailer that it was like
Speaker 1: the ones that I saw was when they were like,
Speaker 1: just get all the Infinity Stones Like that one was
Speaker 1: what was crazy because it's like, yeah, that is the solution.
Speaker 1: That's always been a solution. You gotta go find him
Speaker 1: and then you connect them just like you gotta find
Speaker 1: all the dragon balls, you know, like you gotta go,
Speaker 1: you find them, and you bring them back. So I'm
Speaker 1: super excited to see because if it is the fact
Speaker 1: that everyone's going to go and literally find all of
Speaker 1: the infantaities, that we're probably going to see so many
Speaker 1: different worlds, so many different things. So it's going to
Speaker 1: be a wild ride. Yeah. Yeah, So ant Man in
Speaker 1: the Wasp we talked about that came out in as
Speaker 1: well and kind of was like, hey, I know, you
Speaker 1: just watched that really dark thing. Anyways, here's like a
Speaker 1: fun like non consequential essentially, except for the end. The end,
Speaker 1: stated my girlfriend because because she because you, because she
Speaker 1: was like, you know, we all had a fun what
Speaker 1: and then that scene happening, she was like she was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, oh, I forgot that he did it, and
Speaker 1: then it was really sad. And then we had Captain
Speaker 1: marvel in ten got to say, I loved when she
Speaker 1: showed up like they just turned, like yeah, they just turned,
Speaker 1: and she's right there. I want to watch this movie
Speaker 1: right now. I've never been more than that ending scene.
Speaker 1: So you know, hopefully my dream is that you're driving
Speaker 1: to a to a theater about an hour and a
Speaker 1: half away, and you finally just pulled up and we're
Speaker 1: closing this off, and you're like, real, before you go in,
Speaker 1: but before you walk into that theater? Where can people
Speaker 1: find you? Actor? You can find me on the internet.
Speaker 1: I don't know where you're I didn't know where you
Speaker 1: were going with that, but now you never do. Uh.
Speaker 1: You can find me on the internet at Hector is funny.
Speaker 1: Check out episodes of DC Daily every day on YouTube
Speaker 1: in DC Universe and um and listen to the Five
Speaker 1: Greatest Films podcast, which is a great podcast. Every once
Speaker 1: a week I watch a movie. It's great. Um. I
Speaker 1: want to say my final thing. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: spoil anything cause I haven't seen anything, but I do
Speaker 1: think and hope that they'll introduce new characters, which I
Speaker 1: think is going to be fascinating endgame. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's going to happen in endgame because I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of characters it will be their
Speaker 1: swan song with maybe it would be one coming in
Speaker 1: a one big one one new big one, big one.
Speaker 1: Wolverine's going to happen, oh Man, Deadpool walks in. I'm
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