1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: What's going on. Everybody, Welcome into a Monday edition, a 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: extra special Monday edition of the show, and you'll find 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: out why in just a second of Texans All Access 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: from the Hunday Texans Radio studio right here at NRG Stadium. 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: And it's a renovated NRG Stadium. The entire service level, 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: locker rooms, training room, we already know about the weight 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: room aka sports Performance Center. That's all being changed. That's 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: all been changed. But everything going on to cafeteria, everything. Man, 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: it's crazy there concrete blocks of trash all over the place. 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be great. It's gonna hopefully result in 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: maybe changes you won't see, but hopefully that'll be changes 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: that you will see on the field. You just won't 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: see the changes behind the scenes if you will. But 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: it's been a really fun time to see everything going on. 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: It's disruptive, but we know the end result is gonna 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: be pretty cool. So if you hear jack hammer noise, 17 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: it's going on twenty four to seven, it seems in 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: this building. So that's exactly what it is. Glad to 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: be with you on Monday Show. I'm your host, John Harris, 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: Football annals and sideline reporter and an extra special show, 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: Why the head Coach in Houston, Texans, Bill O'Brien joined 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: us for the annual his annual Everything but the Texans Show. 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean we didn't talk sports, and a lot 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,279 Speaker 1: of things that come up in football kind of bleed 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: over in different sports and things. But we just like 26 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: talking sports with coach. We've talked with him now, obviously, 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: I've talked with him many many times on many different 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: subjects for about a quarter century, for about twenty five years. Man, Yeah, 29 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: a little over twenty five years. But we'd love getting 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: him in to talk about current things going on. Talk 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: to him about the NBA, talk to him about social 32 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: media and sports, all different kinds of things. We want 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: to get some stories from him. We got some great, 34 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,279 Speaker 1: great stuff from him in this segment and throughout the show, 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: recruiting stories some of the things he told us. He 36 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: tells us a great story about pac Man Jones, Adam 37 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: Jones with the since the Bengals that you'll definitely love. 38 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: So we got a lot for you. So let's kick 39 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: it off Everything but the Texans, our Show, our Mondays show, 40 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: all all day, we'll be with head Coach Bill O'Brien. Okay, 41 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: here we go with Bill O'Brien here the Hyunday Texans 42 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: radio studio coach. How's your summer going so far? Good? 43 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's um, you know what it isaseball. I 44 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: mean I was just telling Johnny, I mean it lasts forever, 45 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: but it's great. It's fun. You know, they practiced for 46 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: two weeks before they start playing games. So they played 47 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: this weekend and we're looking forward to it. But uh, 48 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: it's it's uh, it's interesting. It's a lot of fun. Though. 49 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: Were you were in high school, did you play Do 50 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 1: you play baseball? Yes? When did you guys eventually get 51 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: outside to be oh? Yeah, no question. We talked about 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: this all the time because there's a couple parents on 53 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: the team from the northeast, you know, that have transplanted 54 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: down here to Houston. I mean you you didn't get 55 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: out sometimes till May, Johnny, I mean there were some 56 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: years it was snowing in April. So these kids, that's 57 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: and you know, it's funny you say that because these 58 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: these kids, you see the improvement in them, you know, 59 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: almost weekly, monthly, you know, because they're outside all the time. 60 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: He can they play year round? Yeah, yeah, and in 61 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: the North. I mean, that's the one thing I realized 62 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: when I moved to Miami. You see kids in January 63 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: playing baseball. You think this cannot happen in the North. No, no, no, exactly. 64 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: I mean they're literal league season starts here in February, right, 65 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: I mean you, I mean you'd have to play in 66 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: the gym somewhere in Boston. Yea, often you do. Well. 67 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: That was when when I was when I was at Brown, 68 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: I remember the baseball team practicing in our you know, 69 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: mac The first time that they got outside to play 70 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: was on a spring break trip, and our spring break 71 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: was late it was last week in March. They would 72 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: go down to South Carolina. I play South Carolina and 73 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: Wafford Clemson. That was the first time outside all year. 74 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: It just get crushed by all those schools because they're like, 75 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: we're outside for the first time in late March, and 76 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: even when they came back it was still cold. Yeah. 77 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: Oh all right. So if you were a commissioner of 78 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: Little league baseball or youth league baseball, what are some 79 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: of the things that you might want to improve on, 80 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: Because I know you're a server and an evaluator and 81 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: you can't help but evaluate some of this stuff. Anyway, 82 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: This is a hard question. I know how i'd answered that. 83 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: I want to be careful. I have to be politically 84 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: correct because I have a lot of friends over there 85 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: that I will say this. The dad's coach all the 86 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: way through until the kids are thirteen, and so it's 87 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 1: a it's a dad coach deal. And the dad's obviously volunteer, 88 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: and the commitment, the level of commitment that they make 89 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: to coaching their little league team is unbelievable. I mean 90 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: it's it's seven days a week for several months. And 91 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: so I give the dads a lot of credit. Uh, 92 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: once they get to be thirteen, then then and you 93 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: know whatever, you would want to call it, an independent coach, 94 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: not a dad, begins to coach them. And I think 95 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: that's that's good, you know. I think that when you 96 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: get somebody who you know, can go in there with 97 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: fresh thoughts and evaluate the kids, and and and it's 98 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: more of a autocracy, you know, where a guy's gonna 99 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: you know, play or not play based on how he's playing, 100 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, I think that's what happens. But I think, 101 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, commissioner or not commissioner. I think the big 102 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: thing about Little league baseball is if you can teach 103 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: them the fundamentals, you know, how to how to catch 104 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: a pop fly, how to feel a ground or how 105 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: to throw, you know, the fundamentals of you know, first 106 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: and second, no outs, where where you're going with the round, 107 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: just like the fundamentals obviously of hitting, you know. And 108 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: I think that's the key. And then teach them about 109 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: a sportsmanship and being part of a team. And I 110 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: think that's the big thing. I really don't think it's 111 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: all about winning and losing in Little league. I really don't. 112 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: I think it's all about that when you get to 113 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: where we're sitting. But I think at that stage, I 114 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: think it's important that they learn the other things before 115 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: it's like we have to win this game. If we 116 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: don't win this game, we're not getting dinner tonight. You know. 117 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the way to go about it. 118 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: Your big proponentive kids playing multiple sports? Yes, yes, I 119 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: think Johnny and I have talked about this before. I 120 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: thank you. I think that you know, each sport requires 121 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: a different level of conditioning, movement skills, hand eye coordination, 122 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: all the all the different things you know, football, you 123 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: know it's eleven guys twenty two on the field at 124 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: one time, Basketball ten, baseball eighteen. You know, there's different 125 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: rules of the games and different skill sets that each 126 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: game requires. So I really I always encourage that. Ob 127 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: one of the things that we saw come up in 128 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals this year, at the very end of 129 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: game one, j R. Smith forgets, I don't know, doesn't 130 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: know the score, he doesn't you know, he gets that rebound, 131 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: he runs it out. Lebronze mad at him, and it 132 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: got me thinking about game theory, game management. How valuable 133 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: is that for young kids to learn, whether they're playing baseball, football, basketball, whatever, 134 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: to go with the fundamentals. Uh, here's how you feel 135 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: the grounder. But hey, you're down by one run. You 136 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: got guys at second and third, here's the kind of 137 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: here's the kind of ball you want to try and hit. 138 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: How valuable is it to learn kind of game theory, 139 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: your game management, those kind of things at that young 140 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: and age. I mean, I think that's huge. I think 141 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: that's that's part of what I was saying. You articulated 142 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: it very well. I think I think that that's uh, 143 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: you know, after learning how to feel the groundball field, 144 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: a pop fly, you know how to hit and all 145 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: those things. I think then it comes down to, hey, 146 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: we need you to sacrifice bun here because here's the 147 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: situation of the game. I think that really teaches kids 148 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: about being on a team. You know, it's a it's 149 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: a team sport, and I think that's uh, you know, 150 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: the next stage of what they should be learning in 151 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: Literal League. I love Literal League. I love watching it, 152 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: and I'm always thinking about how they could improve to 153 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: help these kids get better in Houston. Like we said earlier, 154 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: these kids, I just I'm always impressed at the improvement 155 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: from the time you know, Michael's been playing here since 156 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: he was nine to the time he's now twelve. He's 157 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: just gotten better and better because they can play all 158 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: the time. They're always outside playing baseball. So I think 159 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: that you see that improvement. But I think that's part 160 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: of it, trying to teach him those things. Probably haven't 161 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: had too much time to watch high school football in Texas, 162 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: but you've saw and I know you'll he really get 163 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: out here to the field and they have these playoff 164 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: games and that kind of thing. But when you look 165 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: at the evolution of high school of football. What do 166 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: you think the level of play now, because I see 167 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: some games on TV and I'm thinking, this is high 168 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: school especially in Texas. I mean especially in Texas, and 169 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: we're probably you know, obviously we're spoiled in Texas because 170 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: high school football in Texas is king. I mean it 171 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: is king. I even from when I was in college 172 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: and recruiting, there's no better state of high school football 173 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: than in Texas. I mean because of the coaching and 174 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: the amount of kids that play football. And you know, 175 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: I think that one of the things that you see 176 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: in high school football now is you know, it's it's 177 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: a game where the quarterback position is becoming more and 178 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: more diverse, if that makes sense. You know, they can't 179 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: just be the days of just a drop back quarterback 180 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: are really over, you know. When it comes to most 181 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: high schools I watch play, you know, especially when I 182 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: watch them out here, it's guys that can throw, obviously, 183 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: but they can run, they can do some of them 184 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: play defense, play safety on defense. I mean, they're multiple 185 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: type athletes to play quarterback. And I think that's because 186 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: of the evolution of the spread, the spread part of 187 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: the game, and spread is an interesting word, but it 188 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: just means that the formations are, you know, more spread out, 189 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: you know, less use of a true tight end, more 190 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: of four or five wide receivers in the game at 191 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: one time, and the balls being thrown. So I think 192 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: you'll you see that a lot, and that's what we're 193 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: seeing now. They go to college, and then when they 194 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: get to our level, you know, you're seeing more and 195 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: more of that when you were in college. I'm sure 196 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: you're an a ton of recruiting. It's changed, obviously with 197 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: social media and all that coming in play. But do 198 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: you have a story that you remember most from your 199 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: days as a recruiter, like one guy you got or 200 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: one that got away? Is there any story that stands 201 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: out like, oh man, that was crazy that you could 202 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: share on the radio. Of course, Yeah, no, I remember 203 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: this is from earlier in my career. I was at 204 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech and we had a coaching change and I was, uh, 205 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, kept over on the new staff. So we 206 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: had a Georgio Leary was our coach. Everybody knows what 207 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: it kind of happened there. And then when he left, 208 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: Chan Gailey became head coach and I was retained and 209 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: so I took over. I think me and two other 210 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: guys were retained, so I had to take over some 211 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: of the recruiting that had been going on, if that 212 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: makes sense. So I took over pac Man. And so 213 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: pac Man was from Atlanta City School in Atlanta. Was 214 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: obviously a great player, uh you know dB, obviously a receiver, 215 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: running back punt. I mean, he did it all. He 216 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: was unbelievable. And he was coming to Georgia Tech. He 217 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: was coming to Georgia Tech. And I remember, hey, Chan, 218 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: this guy's coming in. This is like the first you know, 219 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: I was an offensive coordinator there, but you know, I 220 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: had never worked for Chan Gailey before, so you know, 221 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: you're trying to press your boss, you know. So so 222 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: we all gat that was when they really had started, 223 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: as you remember, you know, putting the signing Day stuff 224 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: on TV. Yeah, so here he comes out on TV 225 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: in his high school gym and he's decked out basically 226 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: in Georgia Tech gear. So here we go, Chan, we're 227 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: getting We're getting pac Man Jones. And all of a sudden, 228 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: he says, I'm gonna shock the world and he takes 229 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: it all off, and underneath it he has West Virginia 230 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: at least looking at me like my job. I called 231 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: Colleen right after that. I said, I need to start 232 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: looking for a job. I don't think I'm gonna be 233 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: kept here much longer. Now. I have about five thousand 234 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: other stories, but that's one from earlier in my career 235 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: that Yeah, you've coached against him at the NFL. Have 236 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: you guys ever talked about that. I've seen him. I never, Yeah, 237 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: I have, like after a game or something. Yeah, No, 238 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: I've seen him. We coached. I've coached against him a lot, 239 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: and so, uh, you know, whether it was New England 240 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: or here in Houston, and I never bring it up. 241 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: You know it is, but it's just, uh, that was 242 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: pretty funny. Oh my gosh. We had another guy. We 243 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: had one more story. Yeah, this is pretty funny. We 244 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: had another guy. I'm not gonna mention his name because 245 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: you know he's he was a great player and he 246 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: played in the NFL. And he was a receiver who 247 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: was from May's High School in Atlanta. He was awesome, 248 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: I mean fast, and I think at one point before 249 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson, you know all that, he's probably the leading 250 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: receiver in the history of Georgia. Techer up there in 251 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: the top five, which is pretty good because there's been 252 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: some good receivers there. So, but so we're recruiting him, 253 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: and so, you know, he was a kid that played 254 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: like in a wing t offense and everything was a 255 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: projection blah blah blah blah. So we weren't sure we're 256 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: gonna offer him. So so we said, hey, why don't 257 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: you come over to during this time of the year, 258 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: Why don't you come over to Georgia Tech. Will sit 259 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: down with you and your mom, we'll talk about Georgia Tech. 260 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: The kid shows up with a with a pillow case 261 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: fill filled with trophies. So he said, you guys don't 262 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: want to offer me in scholarship and he dumps all 263 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: his trophies on the floor and he's got like, you know, 264 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: his trophies from like the sixth grade all the way 265 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 1: through to his you know, he's going into his senior Europe. 266 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: I was like, we gotta offer this just on that alone, 267 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: we gotta offered this kid a college. We did offer him, 268 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: and he went on to be a great player at 269 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. Oh that's good. You know, that's good. That's 270 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: that's dry, that's creative. It is still not Derek Evans, 271 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: who has the all time greatest signing Day episode. If 272 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: you don't remember the name Derek Evans, he was on 273 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: the Dallas Carter team that was featured in Friday Night Lights. 274 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: He was the safety alongside Jesse Armstead. So Armstead has 275 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: one of those where he goes up and he's got 276 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 1: all his gear on. He leaves the press conference, comes 277 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: back and he's wearing all Miami gear. Derek Evans is like, 278 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: hold my beer. Derek Evans is in a hot tub 279 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: with cycling gear, you know, like a cycling spandex gear. 280 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: He's got like a mister T starter kit in a 281 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: hot tub and he's like, Yo, I'm signing with Tennessee. 282 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: And he comes out of the water signs, goes to Tennessee. 283 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: Three months later, he's arrested, spends ten years in jail 284 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: for armed robbery and never even got the ten Yeah, 285 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: but that's the best. That's the best signing is in 286 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: the hot tub in nineteen eighty eight. He set the 287 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: bar and nobody's ever passed. I'm very happy, coach, who's 288 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: the best college football player you've coached against? Because you 289 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: coached college football for a long time, So I know 290 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: you've seen a bunch of good ones. I mean, yeah, 291 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: that's a tough one. Um. You coached against a lot 292 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: of those Miami kids at the Gator Bowl, right, Yeah, 293 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: I mean I was on that game we coached against. 294 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: You know, Vince Wilfork was on that team. Dan Morgan 295 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: the linebacker was on that team. Webster at a big 296 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: game Webster. Yeah, well, I mean a coach against Braxton 297 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: Miller State. Wow, I mean he tore us up my 298 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: first year at Penn State. Um. I mean that's a 299 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: hard question to say, like one guy over another. I 300 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: mean if I mean, if you go back to the 301 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: great Florida State teams, Uh, the defensive ends that they 302 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: had throughout the years there that we coached against, Corey 303 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: Simon on the inside, I mean we I mean it's 304 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: hard to say. Like that ninety nine State team you 305 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: coached again, Yeah, it was one of the great games 306 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: that year when you guys played them Tallahassee. Yeah, we 307 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: played the year before ninety eight. We played him down 308 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: there with Joe Hamilton and we it was I think 309 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: it was like forty five to thirty eight. They beat us. 310 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: We were running the wish bonone. We were doing all 311 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: kinds of things, but they had great players. It'd be 312 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: hard for me to say like one guy over another. 313 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: It is tough to narrow it down considering all the 314 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: greats that coach has coached against and coached throughout his 315 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: coaching career. But fun stuff. I love that Adam Joe's story. 316 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: We just we laughed on and off there when we 317 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: were talking about that. When we get back, we'll talk 318 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: a little bit more about the US Open. Yeah, coach 319 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: loves his golf in the US Open just took place, 320 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: uh not this past weekend, but the weekend before. And also, 321 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: who was coach's favorite college player of all time? That's 322 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: pretty easy if you think about where he grew up. 323 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: Talk about that and then some of the coach Bill 324 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: o'brin right here in Texans Access. It is an extra 325 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: special Monday edition of Texans All Access from the Hunday 326 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: Texans Radio Studio. I am your host, John Ayris, football 327 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: Anistan side and reporter for your Houston Texas. And why 328 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: is it extra special? Well, we had head coach Bill 329 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: O'Brien a studio with us for this entire hour, everything 330 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: but the Texas. This annual tradition we get a chance 331 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: to talk sports. Coach said at one point that he 332 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: wanted to be or would have wanted to be in media. 333 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: Love sports, said he and Doug Monroe, we're gonna do 334 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: a radio show if this whole coaching thing didn't work out. 335 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: But I would think the coaching thing has worked out 336 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: for both of them. So those have to meet on 337 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: the field. They'll do their radio show podcasts somewhere down 338 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: the road. So we love doing this show because we 339 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: talked about literally everything but the Texans. He had a 340 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: couple of things pop up throughout this hour that dealt 341 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: with some things in the NFL and a couple of 342 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: things that coach learned from various coaches he's been around, 343 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: including Bill Belichick. But one of the topics that you 344 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: know tugs in my heartstrings is college football. And we 345 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: had left the last segment talking about players that coach 346 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: had coached or coached against, who was the best he'd 347 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: ever coached against. Started this segment with, well, who's his 348 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: favorite all time college football player? Who's your favorite though, 349 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: not that you coach necessarily, but your all time favorite 350 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: college football player? Do you have one? Is it fluty 351 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: or I'm like I'm like reeling it in here. No, 352 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 1: I mean I love Fluty, So I mean I was there, 353 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: not there, but I saw him. You know that that 354 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: Miami pass. My dad and I were watching that. You 355 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: know what was that was that the day after Thanksgiving, 356 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: day after Thanksgiving, so we're eating Thanksgiving left doors, and 357 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: my dad's the exact opposite of me, like very low key, 358 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: very not emotional. That's one of the few times, other 359 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: than when Fisk hit the home run and seventy five yea, 360 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: other than that, when my dad just let loose like 361 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 1: that was unbelievable. So and and the year before we 362 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: had gone no that year they still played Holy Cross, right, 363 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: and the last game of the season, and we went 364 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: to the Holy Cross game at fitting Field, and there 365 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: was a helicopter came in to fly him to the 366 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: Heisman ceremony. Right, that was cool. I was you know 367 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: what was I twelve thirteen years old then or something 368 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: like that, So that was that was awesome. So yeah, 369 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: I mean maybe growing up that was definitely my favorite 370 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: college football player. But now having coach college for a 371 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: long time, I have my own guys that I coached 372 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: at my favorites, which I wouldn't want to you know, 373 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: get into I mean I had so many good guys 374 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: at Penn State really, to be honest with that, which 375 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: was my first head coaching, it'd be hard to put 376 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: anybody over some of those guys. You know, I always 377 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 1: think that in this business the people that you were 378 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: a fan of before you got into the business. Otherwise 379 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: you get star struck over. Do you find out? Oh yeah, 380 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: true as well because relationship with these guys. When the 381 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: when the Super Bowl was here, my wife and I 382 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: were out to dinner somewhere over here in Rice Village 383 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: and uh and the guy that we ran a restaurant 384 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: or whatever came over and said, hey, coach, you know 385 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: Doug Flutie's here. I was like, well, I gotta meet 386 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: Dug Flutie. He was like two tables over. So the 387 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: first time I really ever met him. Wow. Yeah, I 388 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: think I had met him like briefly one time in 389 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: New England, but he didn't play in New England when 390 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: I was coaching there. I played like right before. So yeah, 391 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. That's a guy that you remember 392 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: growing up. It was cool to meet him. What was 393 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: what's been your best Uh? Like meeting a celebrity or 394 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: somebody recognized your story kind of out of the blue, 395 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: like maybe somebody you you've known and they walked up 396 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: to you like, Hey, Bill O'Brien, I'm such and such. 397 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: Have you Have you had that kind of situation where 398 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: somebody's introduced themselves to you or you met a celebrity 399 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm laughing because it's happened, you know, quite 400 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: a bit, which yeah, almost You've known me for thirty years, 401 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: so you know how ridiculous that is. But but I 402 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: met so we were at LTMPO, I don't know a 403 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: few years ago, might have been the Super Bowl again 404 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: during that when all the stars were here, you know, 405 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: And so what Colin and I are eating dinner and 406 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: there's Rudy from uh, from the movie Rudy right there, 407 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: the real Rudy, the real Rudy, Rudy Rudiger or whatever 408 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: I mean it was. I met Rudy. No, but I 409 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: really the people that I've enjoyed meeting are like, uh, 410 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: you know, meeting President Bush. You know, you know, those 411 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: those types of people and then you go back and 412 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: you you're researching and you think about their lives, especially 413 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: a guy like President Bush. Talking about forty forty one 414 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: who lives here in Houston. He's he's an amazing guy. 415 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: And so I never had the honor of meeting Barbara Bush. Yeah, 416 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: but I met President Bush with mister McNair when when 417 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: I first got hired here. And that was very very cool. 418 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: That was that was pretty that was something I'll never forget. 419 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: You mentioned research. We know you read a lot, all right, 420 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: So give us a book you've read lately you really like, 421 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: and just tell us about it. I'm as you guys know, 422 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: I read multiple books at a time, which is idiotic, 423 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: but that's kind of what I do. Uh. So you 424 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: have to read Bruce Springsteen's biography, autobiography. He wrote it. 425 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: I've heard that this was good. It's incredible. Have you 426 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: read it? No, you guys got to read it. I 427 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: mean his life, his life and the risks that he took, 428 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: and his family life, and I mean it's all in there. 429 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: Driving cross country to California from New Jersey doesn't work out, 430 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: drives back to New Jersey, you know, with bandmates, and yeah, 431 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: I mean the whole thing. And that's just a cool, 432 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: cool book. And I'm also I started, uh, John McCain's 433 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: autobiography Restless Wave. That that's I just started that one 434 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: that that looks awesome. And then I'm reading Nick Saban's 435 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 1: fourth and goal that Phil Savage wrote, So three that 436 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: are on the Savage. Yeah it's pretty good. Well Savage 437 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: is the color analyst for alban football. You like old, 438 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: so he's around him. So yeah, that was one. That's 439 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: my you listen podcast at all because I got a 440 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: good one for you. I got a good one for you, know, 441 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: I don't you'll understand why I tell you this. In 442 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: a second, I heard about these I don't listen. I 443 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: mean I do. I listen to uh, you know, our 444 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: our website stuff sometimes just to listen to what's going on, 445 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: but uh but I don't really do it that often. Okay, 446 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: Well I'll get you started on one. It's called Crimetown. Crimetown. 447 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: It's called Crimetown. It's like a twelve part series. And 448 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: you understand why I tell you this Crimetown putting it 449 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: in my notes here. It's about Providence and Buddy Sancey. 450 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: See he had the same reaction I did. I had 451 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: two people in this building that have told me I 452 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: had a beer with him one time. See I told 453 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: that that's what I've said. Remember Oliver's yes, I do. 454 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: He used to come to It's the only it was 455 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: the only place we had on campus that you could 456 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: go to imbibe if you will. That's the only place. 457 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: And for my first year, probably your first couple of years, 458 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: it was closed and then they opened it back up 459 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: and we would go there periodically. And I remember going 460 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: in there one night and Rick Britten was there, Buddy Ricky, 461 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: and Rick was in there was like, yo, Buddy's over there, 462 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: and he was there all the time. And Buddy Siancey 463 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: was the Mayor of Providence. And this crime Town tells 464 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: the story essentially of Providence, of the patriarcha family, and 465 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: of Buddy Siancey. And so I've gotten through part one. 466 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: It's like twenty five minutes an episode, and it's fantastic. 467 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: Like I was sold. Both Drew and Eric told me 468 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: like separately, you got it. You'll understand, You'll and I 469 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: was like, yeah. Siancey used to come to the Mayor 470 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 1: of Providence, two time mayor of Providence, the longest running. 471 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: He had one stint. He went to jail, and he 472 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: went to jail, and then he came back and won again. 473 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: He won his second probably getting out of jail. Yes, 474 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: crime Town, that's that's that's one. I think when you're 475 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: getting your interval training on, that's probably a good listen. 476 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: They've got all kinds of the first episode, they had interviews, 477 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: they pulled stuff off TV, they had seance speaking at 478 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: different things. I think you would really enjoy podcasts because 479 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: that's the way you can get a workout in listen 480 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: to and you know the reason taking time. So that'd 481 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: be a good podcast, and you're not listening to Texans Radio. Yes, okay, 482 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: of course, there's got to be a prior. I mean, 483 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though, you guys do a lot 484 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: of different things, which is cool, you know, I mean, 485 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: I obviously you two guys, but yeah, well it's funny 486 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: because in this business I always say this. We go 487 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: seven months, the ball is not even snapped, and we 488 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: talk about the team for seven months. Yeah, and it's 489 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: no game action. I tell everybody that it's And I 490 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: love the Astros, I love baseball, but this is America's 491 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: game as the NFL. Yeah, I mean, people want this 492 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: info twenty four seven, three sixty five, you know, that's 493 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: the that's what this league's about our preseason games outrated 494 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: the Western Conference finals. That's great. I meant it shows. 495 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: It proves your point. You were talking about dinner dinner 496 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: with Colleen. You get a free dinner for four anywhere 497 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: you want, anywhere you want. You can invite three living people. 498 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: It's like having a foursome living people. Three living people, Okay, 499 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: living deet, all right, you get all right, extreme, it's 500 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: a pretty big pool. Now you get three people that 501 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: you bring with you to a dinner. You have a 502 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: quartet at dinner wherever you want. Who you bring in? 503 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: Who's your four? I would I would love to bring. 504 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: This will sound crazy to you in some ways, but 505 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: just because of the type of people, the diversity of people, 506 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: but I would love first I would bring Martin Luther King, 507 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: I would bring both President Bushes, and I would bring 508 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: Barack Obama. Wow, That's what I would bring. And I 509 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: think that would be very cool to get all the 510 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: different perspectives on the different errors and different you know, 511 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: all the different risks that all four of those people took. 512 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: And they all come from different backgrounds, have obviously different beliefs, 513 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: and but all four are very respected, you know, I think, 514 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: and well That's what I would That's what I would bring. 515 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: I've never met uh Bush forty one son um but 516 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: forty three and but I but I would like to 517 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: meet him. He's been here, I know. I just feel 518 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: like he'd be a cool guy to meet. Seems like 519 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: a very funny Yeah, funny guy. So yeah, those would 520 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: be the four I would say. Excellent. All right, let's 521 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: get into some other sports here for the moment. You've 522 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: mentioned before that the US Open is your favorite golf 523 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: tournament to watch. Uh, you would like the Majors, of course, 524 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: but you don't get to watch the PGA seasons going 525 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: on and Masters. You got other stuff going on, draft OTAs. 526 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: But US Open, you've said, memories of your dad and 527 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: you watching golf. Yeah, all right, So this past one 528 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: was it ridiculous to you? Or was that good watching 529 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: all the guys struggle and some guys having trouble breaking 530 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: eighty Yeah. I again, I'm gonna be honest about this 531 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: with you guys, because I thought it was awesome. And 532 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: the guys that just said, you know what, I'm gonna 533 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: figure this out were the guys that did well. Brooks 534 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: Kepka said, well, I'm gonna figure this out. Yeah, I'm 535 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: not gonna complain about it. I'm gonna figure it out. 536 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: And and he won. The guy. I mean, I just 537 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: have never heard so many complaints about a golf course. 538 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 1: Like and I don't. Look, I'm not a I mean, 539 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: I golf. I'm terrible, but I and I get it. 540 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: But I mean, like, look like this is the national championship. 541 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: This is what it is. And so you're not gonna 542 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: win twenty under. You're gonna have to basically shoot even 543 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: part to win. And that's what Keepka did. And he 544 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: and if you watch Keepka the whole time, like I 545 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: love watching these guys because he really kept as cool. 546 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,479 Speaker 1: He never the last hole when he hit it off 547 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: the grandstand, I was like, oh, he had a tough 548 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: chip because it was like a downhill, you know, the 549 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: green was sloped down on hill from where he was chipping. Man, 550 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: he nailed that chip. There was that part three two 551 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: where he overshot, he gets it to the bunker, but 552 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: he gets bogie. It was a big bogie at the time. 553 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right, he never lost his composure. And 554 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: I just I just thought that that was awesome And 555 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: I love watching that tournament. You know, just because of 556 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. I always think that's probably the 557 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: toughest golf course, and I mean the rough that they 558 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: had to hit. How about the one where they were 559 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: it was like Friday and they were looking for I 560 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: think it was Dustin Johnson's ball, and he's like, I 561 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: know it's right here. I know it's right here, and 562 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: there's like twenty people around that ball. It was texting 563 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: my dad, I'm like, this looks like us looking for 564 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: our ball. But is that kind of like the golf 565 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: equivalent of a snow game? In football? You know, you 566 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: have these games where and Joe Webb played in one 567 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: of those last year. You know, you're Joe Webb where 568 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: the conditions are so like the game plants compately thrown out. 569 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: You got to figure it out on the go. You 570 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: gotta figure it out. I mean, we've we haven't had 571 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: too many of those types of games here since I've 572 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: been here. But when I was in New England, we 573 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: had the game in Buffalo were sixty to seventy mile 574 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: an hour wins. We threw the ball maybe eight times, 575 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: and they were little flat passes to the fullback off 576 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: of play action. We ran the ball sixty five times 577 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: and beat the Bills like thirteen to ten. I mean 578 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: we had to change, you know, because of the weather. 579 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: And that was one thing that was probably one of 580 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: the of the thousand things I learned from Bill. That 581 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: was one of them. You know, like you just have 582 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: to be able to deal with the elements here. It's 583 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: hard because it's always hot here, so you're not dealing 584 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: with all the different snow and rain, you know, weatherwise. 585 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: Outside you know, you deal with rain, but in plus 586 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: the fact here you're playing indoors half the season and 587 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: then you know, then you're playing up at Indie and 588 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: you're playing other indoor games during the season, so you're 589 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: really not playing outdoors that much until later in the 590 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: season sometimes. But we this year, you know, I think 591 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: we go to the East coast late, so we're gonna 592 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: have to deal with some elements four of them. Yeah altogether. Yeah, 593 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: we're at Eastern time. I think the entire road trip, 594 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: except for Denver and whatever Nashville, I think at that point. See, 595 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: like I said, a few NFL things, a few Texans 596 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: things did sneak in there in that segment, but not 597 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: a whole lot. We get back. Would you rather win 598 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: the US Open or win the World Series individual versus 599 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: team last coach of Brian that next right here in 600 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: Texas Access. Man, it's just dawna me. It's Monday night. 601 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: So that means NFL Network Top one hundred Final ten players, 602 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: the top ten players in the league has voted on 603 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: by the players of the league. That is tonight. No 604 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: Texans in that group. Aaron Donald, Tom Brady, Levon, Bell 605 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: von Miller at all in the final ten. See how 606 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: they're ranked. Deandrey Hopkins top Texans came in at thirteen. 607 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: He was the top ranked AFC SAL player on NFL Network. 608 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: You can see how the top ten players in the 609 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: league and which ones the Texans will face this year. 610 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: I know von Miller's one of them, Tom Brady is 611 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: one of them. Gosh facing Tom Brady yet again, it 612 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: should be a fun show. I love watching that show. 613 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: So you see the final ten tonight. Now let's get 614 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: back to our conversation with the head coach of the 615 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. One final segment and I asked this a 616 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: lot of times of people in sports, they're individual sports, 617 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: they're team sports. And I use the US Open in 618 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: the World Series as my examples, But essentially the question 619 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: that I had was would wouldn't would you rather win 620 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: an individual sport title or would you rather win a 621 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: team sports title. Here's a coach had to say. So, 622 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: you're talking about the US Open. So I've always wondered 623 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: this because I've played on teams my entire life, but 624 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: I've always said, you know, winning an individual award would 625 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: be pretty cool. So you can win one, either the 626 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: US Open or you can win a World Series. Which 627 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: one would you rather win? I'm a so I'm a 628 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: team sport guy, so I'm gonna say the World Series, 629 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: like I went, and I know this wasn't the World Series, 630 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: but I went to the Astros the other night when 631 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: Bregman hit the buck off double off the wall. The 632 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: way that those guys celebrated winning that game like sent chills, 633 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 1: you know, down my spine. I just envisioned, you know, 634 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: our team Fairburn kicking a winning field goal, Watson throwing 635 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: a winning touchdown. Y. You know, I just envisioned our 636 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: team doing something like that. I just I just love 637 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: that about the team sports. I think when you win 638 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: a championship, I remember, like the guys. So I've been 639 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: to two Super Bowls lost them both. Nothing worse than that, really, 640 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: nothing worse than that. But that's what Charlie casually said. 641 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: They lost to the Raiders. He said, there's nothing worse 642 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: brope it off and they you'd rather lose the AC champion. 643 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: It's not good. So I don't know if I'd go 644 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: that far. I mean, the experience of being in the 645 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl is great and all that, but but anyways, 646 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: that when the guys that were on our team that 647 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: had won championships, those teams have a bond that will 648 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: never be broken him. You know, we have. I have 649 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: a bond with a lot of guys here, you know, 650 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: just from coaching them and and working hard with them 651 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: and all the coaches, m players. You know that we'll 652 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: stay in touch the rest of our lives. Like, yeah, 653 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: I get that, But I mean I think a championship 654 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: team that bond has never broken. That that that that 655 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: team has brought back for reunions every year or every 656 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: five years, and you can only imagine what that would 657 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: be like in Houston, as you guys know. So, um, 658 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: I think the World Series I would vote for that 659 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: over over US open all right, sports on television after 660 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: you've won multiple Super Bowls and decide to hang them up. 661 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: You could be a television commentator in a studio setting 662 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: or in the broadcast booth doing games. What would you 663 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: do because obviously two very different things. What do you 664 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: think you'd want to do? So, I think what you 665 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: notice he didn't say play by play man either, No, 666 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get that in mind. Yeah, I don't know. 667 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: I think that one of the things that, you know, 668 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: way down the road, that I would love to do, 669 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: and I used to talk to Matt Millen about this 670 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: at Penn State, was to do, like, you know, to 671 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: try to educate the fans on the game, you know, 672 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: so maybe one of those deals where you're drawn. I 673 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: remember watching like whether it was Gruden or I remember 674 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: another guy, Eric Mangini, did a good job of this, 675 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: you know, explaining what happened on that play, you know, 676 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: like Johnny and I do sometimes during the season, you know. 677 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: I think that's where if you could really like teach 678 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: the fan, you know, kind of what's going on in 679 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: the game. I would love to do that. Being a 680 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: studio analyst or being a color commentary I think that's great, 681 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: but I don't think I would be I wouldn't be 682 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: any good at that. So it's like you and Greg 683 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: cos Sell or something doing NFL matchup, Yeah, something like that. 684 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: You know, when you're explaining, hey, look this is what 685 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 1: this team's trying to do, and this is what I remember. Obviously, 686 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: I used to get mad because I would see, whether 687 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: it's Houston or New England, they would put like last 688 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: year with Watson. You know, you'd see those those types 689 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: of shows on one of those channels and and they'd 690 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: be dissecting our you know, a couple of our players. 691 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's what we're trying to do. You know, 692 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: you're like, j stop, can we stop doing that? But 693 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: I thought that, But I think that's good though. I 694 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: think that educates the fan on what they're looking at. 695 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: So was it surprising having gone through some production meetia 696 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 1: the last few years that Gruden went back to coaching. 697 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: And I asked that because when you're away from coaching, 698 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: some people I don't think understand this. They're like, why 699 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: would a guy go back to coaching? Why would he 700 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: go back to coaching. I'm like, look, when coaching, when 701 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: you get the bug, you'll it's never gone. Are you 702 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: surprised at all the Gruden went back to the Raiders. No, Um, 703 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: he being in the booth. When you've coached like he 704 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: did at the highest level on a super Bowl, it's 705 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: your game day is not the same, you know, And 706 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: it's in preparation and kind of getting in there and 707 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 1: grinding it out with the players and then winning games. 708 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: Like there's no once you've done it. Once you've had that, 709 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: like you said, that's in your blood, it's hard to 710 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: it's hard to give it up. You know. He was 711 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: away from it for whatever ten years and now he's 712 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: back into it, you know. He Uh, he's a great guy. 713 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed talking to him. Um, and I think 714 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: he'll do a great job there. So yeah, I was 715 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: in his blood. I'm sure he missed the competition, the 716 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: game day, calling plays, all the things that watching tape, 717 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: getting guys ready to play. But he missed it all right. 718 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: A few quick ones here Texas Barbecue or Text mex 719 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 1: Because you know you've come into the area fifth year 720 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: now and you've tried both well quite obviously, I love 721 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: both quite obviously. It's a tough call. It is the barbecue. 722 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm like down to a couple of places, whereas whereas 723 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: the Text Mex. I mean, I think there's several places 724 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: that are really good. Right. You know, you've got obviously 725 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: good company. You've got you know, l Timpo. I'm not 726 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: trying to plan. Yeah, yeah, you know, but I'm talking 727 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: about text man. You know. Then you've got Clona nine. 728 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,959 Speaker 1: You know, you got some places in the barbecue maybe, 729 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: and I love barbecue. I'm not trying to I'm just 730 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: saying maybe one or two places, so I'd probably go 731 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: Tex Mex. Okay, like like the spicy stuff too, So 732 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: you do which I know you can get a barbecue too, 733 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: but when you do, barbecue is a breadth gate, is it? Rip? 734 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: Tell you a quick story. Yesterday we had a little league. 735 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: So this little league deal, like every night they got 736 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: an activity for these kids. Right, So they had like 737 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: a pool party at somebody's house. So those people they 738 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: they hired one of those taco makers, like those street vendors, 739 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: and they came over and the guy was made tacos 740 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: and you had all the toppings. I mean, it was 741 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: unbelievable with the different spices, toppings and in the guacamole. 742 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: There are people listening around Houston going, yeah, man, I 743 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: mean it. I've never seen anything like it. I know. 744 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: That's the thing when you when you have somebody that's 745 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: not not from here. I mean you've been here for years, 746 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 1: but to them, that's that's you know, that's kind of 747 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 1: like that's what you do. But you know, for somebody 748 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: that hasn't been I didn't. I never saw that before. 749 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: That's really cool. All right, let's let's talk about movies. 750 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: Best sports movie that you've seen, or if you've got 751 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,919 Speaker 1: time to sit down and watch one sports movie, which 752 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: ones are gonna be? I'm watching Rocky one, the original. Yeah, 753 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm watching Rocky one. I'm watching Miracle, Miracle, I'm watching Um. 754 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: I mean, there's several others, but I'm watching. I mean, 755 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: my wife she, if she was sitting here, she would 756 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: tell you that Michael and I have probably watched Rocky 757 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 1: a thousand times. Yeah. Well, have you have you seen 758 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,439 Speaker 1: the new Creed? I heard it was coming out. I didn't. 759 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: The original Creed is out, but Creed too. Did you 760 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 1: see the original? So you've seen them? All? Right? Yeah? Yeah, 761 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: Rocky one and Rocky two, though, yeah, after that it's 762 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,439 Speaker 1: a formula. After that, three or four are very formulated Creed. 763 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: But a little bit, but Creed two is gonna be fantastic. 764 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: The the trailer too minute trailer is it's incredible. If 765 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: you haven't seen the Creed two trailer goes it's fantastic 766 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 1: because they bring back I'll just leave it at that. Yeah, 767 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: don't tell us. Yeah it's good. You gotta see it 768 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: because it'll it'll Yeah, it'll charge you up. Is that 769 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: your favorite movie period? Do you have another favorite or two? Yeah? No, 770 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: I have favorite movies. I mean, I don't know. I 771 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: kind of go with what I've watched most recently. I 772 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: wouldn't say that this is my favorite movie my favorite movie, 773 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: but I watched this movie the other night, Molly's Game. 774 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 1: Oh that's not really good. Yeah, it's really good. Now 775 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I watched The Post a couple of 776 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: weeks ago. That was pretty good. Um, I don't. I 777 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to pick one. Moved Father Guy Love 778 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: Good Fellas. Yeah, kind of like them all. It's hard 779 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,959 Speaker 1: for me to rank one. Godfather's awesome. She my wife 780 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: would also tell you I've probably seen that a thousand 781 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: times because you know, like on you know, like a 782 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: Saturday during the offseason, you're hanging out and you go 783 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: through the guide or whatever and you see what's on. 784 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: It's on every Saturday afternoon or Sunday afternoon. I mean, 785 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: Miracle just got to Netflix and yeah, and so it 786 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: was I was like on Netflix looking for something. I 787 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: saw it. Yeah, like I feel I feel contractually obligated 788 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: to watch you when it's on. So I'm like, is 789 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: it played? Started doing some things in the room I 790 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: was in just so I could have it on. Have 791 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: you met any of those guys, because a lot of 792 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: those guys were from Boston. Yeah. I got an autograph 793 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, but from Jim Craig. I 794 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: can't say that I met him. I mean I was 795 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: a kid. Um, I've met Mike Ruzione. He's he's always around, Yeah, Boston. 796 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: He came to a Patriots game. Um. My, My brother 797 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: Tom played midget hockey in in Situate, mass with Dave Silk. 798 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: Oh wow. I think Dave was a little bit older 799 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: than my brother, but they were in a similar unseen team. 800 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: Wow wow. So when Bill O'Brien kids, when you're watching 801 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: Miracle and they get to the scene where he's making 802 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: them do the suicide's over and over and he thinking 803 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: again again, you cranjury, He said, yeah, make him do 804 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: it again. I cringe a little bit on that only 805 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: from what I know now, right, Okay. I think earlier 806 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: in my coaching career, I'd be like, yeah, you know, 807 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: they need to pay the price or whatever. But now 808 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: when I know about they had played the game and 809 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 1: then he made him do that, yes, yes, and so 810 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, they didn't play. Well, what a deal that one? 811 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: And then the Craig Ramsey's looking at him like, dude, 812 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: we gotta stop. We can't. Somebody's gonna, you know, pass out. 813 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: I think a great coaching team from that is when 814 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: they get the kid from Minnesota who joins him late 815 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: and he's really good, but they players are like IDL 816 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: doll And he said, now I got a team because 817 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: they voted him off. They want to be together. Yeah 818 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: that's pretty good, right, Yeah he was. He was awesome 819 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: at you know, motivational tactics and just different things that 820 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: he did with that team. You know, he was great. 821 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: And his speech before the Russian game is the greatest ever. 822 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: Is the greatest ever? All right, So all right, one 823 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: more for you. It's a multiple choice. You have to 824 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: make one of these happening, I must make and you 825 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: get to choose one out of these four. A four 826 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: foot put, not three, but four foot put, a free throw, 827 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: catch a fifty yard punt, you know, like a nice 828 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: high lechler pot, not a not a coffin corner, but 829 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: at nice high fifty yard pot. Or answer a random 830 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: Boston sports trivia question. One of those four you gotta 831 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,879 Speaker 1: do it? What are you gonna pick? I'm gonna I mean, 832 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: I'd have to go with the last one. Answer a 833 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:27,479 Speaker 1: random bust. I mean, you know, I guess I could 834 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 1: catch the punt. I'm missing the put because I'm a 835 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: terrible putter. Did you say putt? Yeah? Four foot pot 836 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: is tough. I'm a bad putter. I mean, I'm just 837 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: not no for me. It is hey, ask fair I 838 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: can't hit the ball anywhere, but I can make a 839 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 1: four foot put. Ask fair bear at this question, he's 840 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: not picking the putt. I'm serious, Like, oh, kickers, no 841 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: free throw. I just played hoop last night at this 842 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: little league party I was at and I couldn't make anything, 843 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: so I'm not doing a free throw. Okay, Boston Sports 844 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: Trivia question. It is coach thankes a lot for the time. 845 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: We really appreciate that was great. Thanks guys. Me I 846 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 1: know it's gonna sound funny. I would catch you put 847 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: a shooting free throw. Although I'm one of the best 848 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: trivia sports trivia people you'll ever know, I get answer 849 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: a question about any sports trivia, but catch a punt. 850 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: I should do that in practice. Actually, with Bill O'Brien 851 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: watching used to catch him easy. That comes from years 852 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 1: of playing baseball. But shooting free throw, I'll shoot free 853 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 1: throws all day. I'm not gonna free throw down I got. 854 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: I got no problems with that. I think the four 855 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 1: foot pull would be easy, but then again, I don't know. 856 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: Maybe not depends. I thought it would be easy, but 857 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: that's just me now. I can't do anything else in 858 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: a golf course. I can put. I can do that, 859 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 1: that's not a problem, But any of those I probably 860 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,320 Speaker 1: would put the trivia question last, even though that's probably 861 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,359 Speaker 1: my strength at this point, being all of about eighty 862 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: six years old. So anyhow, big thanks to Bill O'Brien 863 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: for hopping in here and spending an hour with us. 864 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: That was fantastic stuff. He's been on a triple threat lately. 865 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: Head I think he did an hour with Triple Threat 866 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 1: on Friday with them, talked a lot about the Texans, 867 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: and we get a chance to do that with him 868 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: throughout the year and all that kind of stuff, so 869 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,760 Speaker 1: we catch up with him and all that stuff throughout 870 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: the season. So it was good to catch up with 871 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,399 Speaker 1: him with everything other than the Texans on this show. 872 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys listening big thanks to Mark Vandomir of course, 873 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: to Bill O'Brien. That's you guys for listening. We'll see tomorrow, buddy, 874 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: and it's always go Texans.