1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Hey, hurdlers, you are listening to episode fifty seven of Hurdle, 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: a podcast that talks to everyone from top CEOs to 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and athletes about how they got through tough times 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: hurdles of sorts by leaning into wellness. My name's Emily A. 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: Vadi and today I am chatting with Omar Crispy of Gila. 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: He is a US Army veteran Purple Heart recipient, a 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: total amazing person and also a Paralympic powerlifter that has 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: the current world record pr for the bench press and 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: the deadlift. And you'll have to listen in to see 10 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: just how insane that is. 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Anyway, I'm sure the first thing you're wondering 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: is why his nickname is Crispy, and that's because in 28 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, Omar suffered seventy five percent burns 29 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: to his body when he was involved in an ied 30 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: accident over serving in Iraq as an infantryman with the 31 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: US Army. Because of this accident, he's now also a 32 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: right leg amputee. In today's episode, he tells me about 33 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: the frightening circumstances that's around it that day and the 34 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: memories he has of getting treatment, of seeing his family afterward, 35 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: of being told that he had a thirty percent chance 36 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: of living. Today, he talks about how he came back 37 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: from the unthinkable and he not only survived this awful situation, 38 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: but he's also now thriving as a Paralympic powerlifter and 39 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: public speaker. He has a solid Instagram following of more 40 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: than two hundred and fifty thousand people, all who draw 41 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: us such inspiration from his positive attitude, from his positive outlook. 42 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: We also talk about how it was acclimating back to 43 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: society and how for a little bit there he fell 44 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: in with the wrong crowd and actually leaned into going 45 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: to the gym, into powerlifting to get him through some 46 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: tough situations and to work through some of that pain. 47 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: You know. He tells me a story about the first 48 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: time he walked into a gym. He easily just deadlifted 49 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: four hundred pounds like it was nothing, and everyone around 50 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: him just looked at him in absolute bewilderment. There's just 51 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: so many things about him that make him really special, 52 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 1: and I'm so amped to share his story today as 53 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: always at Hurdle Podcast on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. Please 54 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: do me a favor. Make sure to tag me in 55 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: what you're loving about this week's hurdle, and also if 56 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: you have a second, share the podcast with a friend, 57 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: and then rate and review Hurdle in the iTunes store. 58 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 1: I can't beg you that enough. It does really great 59 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: things for the podcast and gets sit more visibility. And 60 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: you know that's the goal here, just to be able 61 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: to spread these stories everywhere. One last note, happy unofficial 62 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: start to summer and Memorial Day. Please take a second today, 63 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: whether you're at the beach or barbecuing or starting the 64 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: Runner's World Run streak that begins today, to think a 65 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: service member. Remember that the day is all about. It's 66 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: remembering those that have given the ultimate sacrifice in the 67 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: name of our country. We are so thankful for people 68 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: like Omar, for your service, for your bravery, and we'd 69 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: be lost without you. With that, let's get to hurdling today. 70 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm chatting with Omar Crispy Avila. He is a motivational speaker, 71 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: a professional powerlifter and all around badass. And also we're 72 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: chatting today releasing this episode on Memorial Day, and Omar 73 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: is an Army veteran. So first and foremost, thank you 74 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: for your service. 75 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, and thank you for the nice words. 76 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 2: I wouldn't go that for. 77 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: Please, You've done quite a bit I'd love first and foremost, 78 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: I shouted out, your nickname, Krispy, why don't you let 79 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: the hurdlers in. That's what I call my audience in 80 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: on where that nickname comes from. 81 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that name was given to That nickname was 82 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: given to me by a good friend of mine who 83 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: was also wounded in the war. When I got injured 84 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven, I sus think so many 85 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: five and burns to the body, putting the fourth degree burns, 86 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: and I had my right leg and potato below the knee. 87 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: So when I got to see him, I had heard 88 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: about his injuries. He caught some shrapnel to the side 89 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: of the face that ultimately went through h through and 90 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: through and caused him to go blind. And I remember 91 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: seeing him across the room and I want to go 92 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,559 Speaker 2: say hi to him. And when he heard my voice, 93 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: he's like, Omar, is that you? And I was like, yeah, man, 94 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: how you been. He goes good. He's like, I heard 95 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: about your injuries and I was like, yeah, man, I 96 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 2: got a little little burns and he goes, now you're Chrispy. 97 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 2: So he he gave me that nickname. Probably a couple 98 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: of months I've had been or about almost a year 99 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: I've had been wounded and I've been won by that 100 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: ever since. 101 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: Do you like it? 102 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: I do? I love it. It's it's a little it's 103 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 2: a dark humor that that's helped my recovery. It's helped 104 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: me deal with my injuries, my insecurities since day. It 105 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 2: was just something that I wanted to take charge of. 106 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 2: And I feel like making fun of my injuries was 107 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 2: taking charge. And I was going to be the one that, 108 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: you know, set the tone. I was going to take 109 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: charge of my injuries, and I let my injuries take 110 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: charge of me. 111 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: I love that mentality. So why don't we remind it 112 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 1: back and talk about when you decided that you wanted 113 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: to get into the service in the first place. 114 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I just low backstory. I actually came to 115 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 2: this country illegally with my mother and two other siblings. 116 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: My dad was already living here. He was an American citizen, 117 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: and it was just taking too long for us to 118 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: do all the paperwork and stuff, and my dad was 119 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 2: started commuting back and forth to Mexico. So we you know, 120 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: we came here illegally, as he was advised by his attorney, 121 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 2: and then you know, he was going to face some 122 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: fines in health that we were able to start the 123 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: paperwork a little faster, so we did that. I was 124 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: nine years old, and yeah, I came here, and my 125 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: sophomore year of high school, which was two thousand and one, 126 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: is when, you know, we finally had everything done and 127 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: we were going to become citizens. And I remember becoming 128 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: a citizen about three weeks before nine to eleven happened, 129 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: and then once time eleven happened, it was I was 130 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: already a citizen, and they kind of set the tone 131 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: for me. I felt as an American, you know, I 132 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: felt proud of be an American, and I was given 133 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: a chance to be anything that I wanted to be 134 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: in this country. I was given the opportunity to say 135 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: that I'm an American and felt proud about it. And 136 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: when that happened, all I can think of was my brother, 137 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: my sister, and my mom that you know, they're they're 138 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: about their freedom. So I decided to join the service 139 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: right then. And there's a sophomore in high school. I 140 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: knew that I wanted to go over and fight, you know, 141 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: those individuals that had struck our American people, and I 142 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: just I don't know how to explain it. I don't 143 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: even I can't even comprehend it at it now, being 144 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: such a young age and feeling proud of me an American, 145 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: and I wanted to go do something about it. 146 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: I love that. So he decided to go into the Army. 147 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: Any reason why the Army in particular. 148 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's you know, I'm not smart enough to their 149 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: part the air Force and be a pilot. So now 150 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: I scratched that off. I grew up in South Texas, 151 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: right next to South Podure Island, and we were always 152 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: fishing on boats and stuff, and I just remember loving it. 153 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: But I didn't want to do I didn't want to 154 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: do that full time. So the Navy was out of 155 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: the picture. And all of the Marine is pretty cool, 156 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: and they had some badass people there. When it comes 157 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: to picking your job, it's very hard. There's such a 158 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: small department of our military that you know, they pretty 159 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: much send you where they want. And I read up 160 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: on the Army, and you know, in the Army, I 161 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: could be an infantryman and then from there it could 162 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 2: have gone to range your school, and then from that 163 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: I could have been, you know, gone a Special Forces 164 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: delta and move up. You know, I just move up 165 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: in my service, not necessarily do one job the rest 166 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: of my career, because I made up my mind that 167 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: I wanted to do. I wanted to be a twenty 168 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: plus year veteran, and that's what I was going to 169 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: vote my life, and it was going to be for 170 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 2: the service. So I wanted to be an infantryman and 171 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: then work my ranks up, and the Army was the 172 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: only one that provided that. So that that's why I 173 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: joined the Army. 174 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: And so you went to infantry school in two thousand 175 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: and four, is that right? 176 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: Yes? 177 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: And then you deployed to Iraq. I did, okay, So 178 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: in May two thousand and seven, everything changed everything. 179 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we our vehicle ran over an IV. It was 180 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: about two hundred punds of explosives that impacked in the 181 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 2: ground through our vehicle up in the air, about three 182 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: or four feet in the air. And you know, I 183 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 2: sat in the trickle of longer than I should have. 184 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 2: Turned to good support by fire so the rest of 185 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: the guys could be evacuated out of the vehicle and 186 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: start getting treated on. Uh So, as the result of that, 187 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: you know, when I finally jumped out, I uh, you know, 188 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: there was no work for me to drum. So when 189 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: I jumped down, I was on fire. I had been 190 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: on fire for a little while. Ended up breaking both 191 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: of my femurs and like I said earlier, seventy five 192 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 2: percent burnings to the body good and fourth degree, and 193 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: the amputation of my right leg, which happened about three 194 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: years ago. I went nine years doing limp salvage. I 195 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: had a I had a partial foot amputation kind of 196 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: like diabetes people get. So I had a partial food amputation, 197 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: but I had a very pick score from a couple 198 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: of years before that, I had had found cancer in 199 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: my foot due to all the chemicals and the stuff 200 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: that was in the ground and all over. I rack 201 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: it cost that, so I did. I did at Roll 202 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: March with a bunch of friends. It was twenty two 203 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: miles and that injury opened up again and that car 204 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 2: just broke and it took six months for it to 205 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: heal and then didn't even heal, and I didn't know 206 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: what was going on. So finally, you know, my girlfriend 207 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: convinced that she's like, you need to go get that check, 208 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: and I did, and they ended up doing surgery. And 209 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: while I was in surgery, they took some posters in 210 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: mission that they had found cancer. So when I came 211 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: back out, they said they wanted to pull back in 212 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 2: and take it all out, and so I backed up, 213 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: so we did. They took it all loud. It was gone. 214 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 2: When they sew my foot and I took the first step, 215 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 2: all the stitches opened up, and I mean it was 216 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 2: just it wasn't hitting, it wasn't doing anything. And finally, 217 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: after the third surgery on it, I was just tired 218 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: of it. I was tired of not being active. I 219 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: was tired of just being in a witcher and kind 220 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: of feeling useless. After nine years and I had my 221 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 2: life all together and I was out there doing what 222 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: I wanted to do, and I, you know, I walked 223 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: into my appointment. I looked at the doctors before they 224 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: considered what. I said, Look, I'm tired. And the doctors 225 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 2: were like, that's what we wanted to talk to you about. 226 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: I said, doc, let's cut it off. And this was 227 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: on a Friday, and they told me to enjoy myself, 228 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: to have a good weekend. Walk in on the Monday, 229 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 2: cut my leg off Monday, and then the following Friday 230 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: I was released it home. 231 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, there's so much to unpack and all of 232 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: that story. I mean, first and foremost, I can only imagine. 233 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine how much pain and what was 234 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: going through your mind when this happened in Iraq. You 235 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: literally said, I was on fire. How does one even 236 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: I don't even know how one proceeds through that situation? 237 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: You know, neither do I. But you know, thankfully we are. 238 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: We are the best trained soldiers in the world. And 239 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: you know we have a great military and we trained 240 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 2: for everything. And you know, when that all happened, it 241 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: wasn't me trying to be a hero. It wasn't me 242 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: trying to save the day, none of that. It was 243 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: just what I was taught to do. It was my job. 244 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 2: And to be honest with you, when you're there, all 245 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: you care about is that brother next to you that's 246 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: fighting with you, that you live with, that you see 247 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:19,359 Speaker 2: every single day. You want to fight at your maximum 248 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: capacity to make sure that you know they survive and 249 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: to make sure that you know that they're able to 250 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 2: do their job. It's just a team effort, you know. 251 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: It's just they're my family at the end of the day, 252 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: of their family and you do anything you can to 253 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: help your family, and that's all I was trying to do. 254 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: I wasn't, like I said, I wasn't trying to be 255 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: a hero. I wasn't trying to just do something out 256 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 2: of the ordinaria. I was just fighting for my brothers. 257 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I know in that incident, not all of 258 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 1: you actually made it out of that scenario. 259 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: No, Unfortunately, we lost two guys that day. We actually 260 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: lost one and another one ended up dying the hospital 261 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 2: a couple of months later due to his injuries and 262 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: his burns, did not make it. So, yeah, three of 263 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 2: us made it out. All three of us were severely wounded. 264 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 2: But we were lucky that three of us made it out, 265 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: and too were brothers. You know, getting as this is 266 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: the story. It is. It's part of the job. It's 267 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: hard to explain, but it's just part of the job. 268 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: We know what we were getting into and we knew 269 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: what what could happen, and when it happens is unfortunate, 270 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: but it is what it. 271 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: Is, right, And what was the healing process like after that? 272 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: I mean, seventy five percent of your body, man. 273 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: You know it was. I spent a whole year in 274 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: the hospital. About three months out of that whole year, 275 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: I was in an induced coma medical induce coma, so 276 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: I wouldn't feel the pain, uh, and they could you know, 277 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: work on me and then do surgeons and whatnot. I 278 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: mean I had about thirty five surgeries before I woke up. Wow. 279 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: But you know, it had it ups and downs. There 280 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: was days that I was you know, happy that I 281 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: was live and you know, I saw my family around me, 282 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: and there was days where I just feel useless. I 283 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: felt like I was going to be a burden in 284 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: my family. So a lot of mixed emotions. And then 285 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: you know when you're finally awake and you got to 286 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: do pet and you just don't want to do it 287 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: because you know everything hurts, but you still got to 288 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: do it to be able to get back to being, 289 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: you know, being useful and being able to do stuff 290 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: on your own. So you got to do it and 291 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: you got to just push through it. So from from 292 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: from the beginning, it was always encouragement from my family, 293 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: from from the nurses, from other physical therapists. So you know, 294 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: it was just it was it was hard, but I 295 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: don't know, it was just something we needed to do. 296 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: Bigger than that. I mean, I'm sure you never imagined 297 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: what life would be like without your life. 298 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: No, you know, when I was wounded, I don't remember. 299 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: I don't remember my hands being reformed. I don't remember 300 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: burns being this bad, and I honestly don't remember I 301 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: don't remember my legs being dag jacked up. So it 302 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: was it was kind of a shock for me when 303 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: when I realized, I was like, oh man, I'm going 304 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 2: to have to I'm going to have to adjust to 305 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: this now. 306 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: I feel like it goes without saying that. You know, 307 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: you never entirely the same, so to come back and 308 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: have to reintegrate into society and try to pick up 309 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: where you left off and then also have all of 310 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: these injuries and readapting to life, it's just a new way. 311 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure overwhelmed was an understatement. Yeah. 312 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very hard at the beginning, but like 313 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: I said, you know, you get used to it and 314 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: you learned to be okay with it. And I don't 315 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: explain it was it was just hard knowing that that 316 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: I survived for a reason, So I wasn't just going 317 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: to roll over and be sad about it that I 318 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: was here. And I was deformed. 319 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: So I hear you okay, so you get back. Obviously 320 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: the healing process as took some time. So when do 321 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: you actually get to leave the hospital. 322 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: So I spend a year in the hospital, like I said, 323 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 2: three months and the ICU, and then I spent about 324 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: another I want to send another three months in the 325 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 2: burn unit, and then probably after seven months I was 326 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 2: able to leave the hospital, but we stayed on post. 327 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: You know, this is a military hospital in San Antonio 328 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: that is world known for burns. So we lived around. 329 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: We lived in the area, so anytime that I needed 330 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 2: to go get a surgery, I would go get a 331 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: surgery and it was the same day surgery, meaning that 332 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: I could go home. When I would come to and 333 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 2: I was fine and breathing on my own day, let 334 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: me go home, because you know, it was just proven 335 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 2: that you feel faster at home, even though it wasn't 336 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: my home home. I just felt like I had this 337 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 2: space to do whatever I wanted to do there and 338 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 2: buy space. I mean, it was just a hotel with 339 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: two bits in it, but it was better than being 340 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 2: a hospital. 341 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: Right And so now to date, how many surgeries. 342 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: Have you had since two thousand and seven. I've had 343 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: a total of one hundred and three surgeries. 344 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: Wow, but is this like this is everything from reconstruction 345 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: to two greater and more in depth stuff it is. 346 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 2: It goes from reconstruction, it goes from any amputation. Infections 347 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 2: and infections was a big, big one. I mean I 348 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 2: can probably I'd probably say you I've had about dirty 349 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: surgery due to infections that they have to go in 350 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: kind everything open cleaning and close me back up. Wow, 351 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 2: but procedures a lot of cosmetic work, you know, business 352 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 2: series that I'm going to continue to have for the 353 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: rest of my life just because of the scar. Burned 354 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 2: star tissue will start taking it up again. They will start, 355 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: uh grabbing my body and and just timing up. I 356 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: don't know if people who I saw what a scar is, 357 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: but I mean it'll it's kind of like a bandit 358 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: and it's just started coming to a rubber band and 359 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: it'll just start getting real paked to where you got 360 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: to stretch and if you don't, you know, it just 361 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 2: gets hard for you to move and to contracts your body, 362 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: and you know you got to kind of come in 363 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: there and cut it and keep going. 364 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: Are you in pain? Regularly. 365 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: I don't. Honestly, I don't know if I've gotten used 366 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 2: to it or if I'm pretty good at ignoring it. 367 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 2: But I mean there are days where, yeah, I do 368 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 2: have a little bit of pain, and there's are the 369 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: days where I'm just fine, and you know, it's just 370 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: going with life and it just becomes part of you 371 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: and you get used to it. 372 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: When you obviously had to come home after the ID, 373 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: did you, I mean, at that time, you were probably, 374 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, planning an entire career kind of around this, 375 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: So I can only imagine that at times it might 376 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: have felt like why am I even still doing this? 377 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that there it was very hard integrating 378 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 2: back into civilian world, just because you know, of social 379 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 2: media and whatnot. I will see that my brothers were 380 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: getting ready to go on their second or their deployment, 381 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: and for me, it was hard not be knowing that 382 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 2: I was in part of the flight, that I wasn't there, 383 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: that I wasn't going to be there to have their back, 384 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: that I couldn't look over them and make sure that 385 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: everything went right. That was probably the hardest thing that 386 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 2: I faced with every day. And knowing that I was 387 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: out of the fight and it was it was a 388 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 2: two shooting. It would it would consume me because I 389 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 2: knew that I was good at my job and I 390 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: wanted to be there. And that's all I ever kneed, 391 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 2: you know, ever since so they became an adult, it's 392 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: all I did. You know. I had jobs before that 393 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 2: in the high school, you know, pe like working a 394 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: pizza plays and the construction and stuff here and there. 395 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 2: But that was my profession. That's what that's what I 396 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 2: was good at. You know. It was just like the 397 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 2: same thing when a basketball player wakes up and they 398 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 2: know what they got to do, you know, a physical 399 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 2: therapist or whatever the case is, Like, you know your job, 400 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: you know what you're good at. That's what I was 401 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: good at. So it was very hard to transition into 402 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 2: civilian world and trying to adjust and trying to do 403 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 2: something else to occupy my time and to contribute back 404 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: to society. It was it was very hard, it really was. 405 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: And I didn't know what passed I was. 406 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: Going to take definitely, and so what did that lead 407 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: you down to do? 408 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 2: I was fortunate enough that I received a call from 409 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: a friend and they had asked me if they didn't 410 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 2: come speak to the to the kids at an elementary 411 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: to come motivate them and speak on them. I think 412 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: it was either Memorial or Veterans Deck, and was so 413 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 2: long ago that I can't remember. And I walked in 414 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: there and then I gave a speech and these kids 415 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: were super excited and motivated, and they all came up 416 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 2: to me and they wanted to take pictures and all 417 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 2: this stuff, and I just felt crazy. I was like, well, 418 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: what you want to picture with me? And you know, 419 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: they were like, well, that was awesome. And these are 420 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: kids that, you know, they shouldn't even really understand what 421 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: I was talking about, but they did. And I was 422 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 2: excited and I couldn't stop talking about it. And I 423 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 2: finally asked another friend. I was like, and I told 424 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: another friend and he goes, dude, well you want me 425 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: to book these so speaking engagements? And I was like, 426 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 2: you think I'm good? And he goes, well, no, but 427 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: but if you want to take some classes, it'll be great. 428 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: And I did. I took some classes to learn how 429 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 2: to give you know, got to do speaking engagements and 430 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: then get on the crowd and whatnot. And I started 431 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 2: doing it, and the more that I did it, I 432 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: felt like a little bit of weight was taking off 433 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: my back every time I was able to tell the story. 434 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: And now every time I tell my story, I love 435 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 2: it because those people remember the names of my brothers 436 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: that that die that day, and it keeps their memory 437 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 2: of life. And two more people or one hundred people 438 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 2: whoever been here there they know my brother's names, and 439 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: that's how you keep their memory of life. And I 440 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: was like, why this, this is this is the purpose, 441 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: This is what what I need to do. And I 442 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: was like, if I can change one life in this 443 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: building or in this room, that's worth it to me. 444 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: That's why I'm here. And so I did that. Insteaded 445 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: doing that for for quite a bit. But you know, 446 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: living in a small town, I got caught up and 447 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: hanging out with the with the wrong crowd and people 448 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 2: that you know that I went to school with that 449 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 2: weren't doing much with their lives, were just hanging around, 450 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: you know, living with their parents and just drinking and 451 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: just not doing anything good. And you know, one day 452 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: I was just like, man, I don't want to do 453 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 2: this forever, Like what am I doing? So I went 454 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: to a strong wing competition that my friend Ronnie was 455 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: having at his jam that he had just opened up 456 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: and Darren Brads of Texas where I'm from, it's called 457 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: are Not And I went to this strong wing competition. 458 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is awesome, Like right off 459 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: the bat when I walked in, just the intensity and 460 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 2: everybody and there was, you know, screaming and and schearing 461 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: these guys on and I don't know what it was, 462 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 2: it just it attracted me. So that was on a Saturday. 463 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: I shut up on a Monday to start training, and 464 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: you know, they were deadlifting that day and I walked 465 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 2: in and I did lifted four hundred pounds and everybody 466 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 2: was just kind of shocked. They're like, what what's going on? 467 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 2: I was like, is that Yeah. Everybody's kind of like, 468 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: what the heck? And I'm like, is that a lot? 469 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 2: Because you know I can do more. Sure Enough, the 470 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 2: following week, I did lifted five hundred hundred pounds and 471 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 2: everybody was just like, dude, there's ys to have been 472 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: here for years that can't do that, Like you have 473 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: a gift. And by the encouragement of them and other 474 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 2: teammates there, I started taking it very seriously and next thing, 475 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 2: you know, them that lifting you know, six hundred plus 476 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: pounds and just breaking records that no other uh, you know, 477 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 2: disabled people have been able to do. And not only that, 478 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 2: I was doing regular competitions as regular people and I 479 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 2: was getting them. So I knew that that had something. 480 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: So I started powerlifting, I started doing motivational speaking, and 481 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 2: then just kind of helped me get in touch back 482 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: to myself with hunting in the outdoors. And it was 483 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 2: just a bunch of different things that helped me and 484 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 2: that I started doing that. I love. The gym was 485 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: a big part of me because I can walk in 486 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: there and I knew that I could, just like I 487 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 2: do hunting, I leave everything behind. You put your phone 488 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: on way, you don't touch it. You just concentrate on 489 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: what's in front of you and and that sens it 490 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 2: gives you. It gave me a purpose and I had 491 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 2: a task that I wanted to accomplish. You know, you 492 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: kind of gave me that that sense of being back 493 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: in the service because you have to be strict with 494 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: your diet, you have to follow everything to the teeth. 495 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: And you know, I loved it because I was welcomed 496 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: by so many people. I mean, people in the industry 497 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 2: that should have never been talking to me, like Brandon 498 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: lily Ed Conbe, Brandon Allen, my buddy Gunner down in 499 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: LA who you know, he's a trainer for some of them, 500 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 2: the greatest actors in this world. And these guys Johner Peter, 501 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 2: So that's my boy. The podcast, I love you, and 502 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: you know he really is you know him, guys like him, 503 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: the guys over at Sorenate, you know, just a bunch 504 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: of different people. And I felt the love from the 505 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: polating community and and just the fitness industry period and 506 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 2: I just loved it. And then that's what kept me going. 507 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 2: And if I would have never done of those things, 508 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: it would never open the doors. But that's what I 509 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 2: do now, That's what I decided to do after my injuries, 510 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: And like I said I was, I was going to 511 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: take charge of my injuries, not my injuries. Take charge of. 512 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: Means taking a quick break from today's episode to give 513 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: my sponsor Athletic Greens some love. You know, I hate 514 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: the word diet. I feel like even when I was 515 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: losing weight in college, there was nothing about it that 516 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: felt like a diet. 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Let's get back to it. 532 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: Very impressive to be able to recognize that maybe you 533 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: didn't want to be hanging out with the wrong crowd 534 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: and find some solace in a super healthy environment. Aside 535 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: from that, I mean, I just need to throw this 536 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: out there that the quote unquote fittest guy on Earth, 537 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: Matt Fraser or his deadlift pr is listed on the 538 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: CrossFit website as five hundred pounds. So you in there 539 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: crushing these numbers and you're doing it with one leg. 540 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 2: Man, listen, Matt Fraser knows this very well because him 541 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 2: and I are friends, and he knows I cannot lift 542 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: him every day. But but but if we try to 543 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: go on a run or something else, he got He's 544 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 2: got me. 545 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: Beat, he's got you be, He's got you. I feel 546 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 1: like I have to ask, maybe an oblivious question, do 547 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: you have a lot of pain when you do stuff 548 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: like that with the with your nub. 549 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: No? No, no, I have prosthetics, Dick that I have. 550 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy because I gave a leg up 551 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: and I have like seven in my garage. I got 552 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: a leg that that I walk with on a regular 553 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: I got a running leg, I got a power lifting leg. 554 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: I got a leg that I wear just for boots, 555 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 2: so you name it. I have all these different things, 556 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: and they're all they're they're all built in a different way. 557 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: So for example, when I go lift, like my own 558 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: power lifting leg that's got pushing and stuff on the 559 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: inside that that helps the impact, so my nuve doesn't 560 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: doesn't hit the covering fiber very hard to where it's 561 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: gonna cut me open and do all that. It still 562 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: happens because my skin is burned on my nubs so 563 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 2: it's very sensitive. So I still get cuts, I still 564 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 2: get cruises, I still get all that stuff. But it's 565 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 2: not as bad as it should And that's why I 566 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 2: do it. And now it might be pain, I just 567 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 2: like I said at the time, it doesn't register just 568 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: because my nerves aren't wired the regular way. So if 569 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: I do feel it, i'll feel it later and I 570 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 2: just know how to rehab and what to do with it. 571 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: And you know, it's just like anything any any sport 572 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: that any athlete does. I I'd like to think that 573 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: I listen to my body sometimes, but I really don't. 574 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 2: When when it says stop, I try to stop and 575 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: just take care of the issue right and then you know, 576 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: reset and get back to it. But yeah, and I 577 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: mean there's pain, it's not registering reckon in there. But 578 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: if it's as usually any pain, I do stop and 579 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 2: and reset and get back at it or go back 580 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: to see my prosthetic guy and be like, hey, this 581 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: isn't working. We need to work on something different. And 582 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: for the most part, I'm truly blessed that they're about 583 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: an hour from me, so I get to go in 584 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: there at whatever time I want and we get to 585 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: work on something and they know that that the level 586 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: of of stuff that I'm doing, and they're they're just 587 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: great because they take care of me every single time. 588 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: That's awesome. And I'm curious when did it go from 589 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: you were just showing up at the gym and lifting 590 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: up some heavy stuff to thinking, hey, maybe I should 591 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: start competing in this. 592 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: You know what it was? It was fairly quick. Like 593 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: I said, man, my friend Rod, and once you think 594 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: us of the gym, there like there's a competition coming up, 595 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: you need to sign up. And I was like, I 596 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: don't know, I don't want to do that. I don't 597 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 2: think I'm ready. And he's like, well, you got to 598 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: start somewhere, buddy. You got to do a competition and 599 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 2: see where you're at and competition, and you know, I've 600 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: always been a very competitive guy and I've always loved 601 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: challenging myself and then try to try to be the 602 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 2: best guy in the room, just like anyone else. When 603 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 2: it comes to being a competitive person. But I was 604 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: very reserved when it came to that. I didn't really 605 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: want to do it, And you know, I was so 606 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 2: thankful and blessed that I had them because they pushed 607 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 2: me to do it and they're like, you're never going 608 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: to know where you're at and the like, and they're like, honestly, 609 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: you're probably not going to be good at it, you know, 610 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: And there was all things that they were they were 611 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,239 Speaker 2: telling me to fire me up. I knew what they 612 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: were doing. I just didn't want to didn't really realize 613 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 2: it then that they were pushing me to do this thing. 614 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 2: And after's so much of them pushing me and telling 615 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: me that I wasn't going to be able to do it, 616 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: I signed up and they all knew that I was 617 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: doing it, and I ended up doing it and I didn't. 618 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 2: I didn't win my play a place like I can't 619 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 2: remember it was the third or fourth place, I honestly 620 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 2: don't remember. And from there I was like, you know what, No, 621 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 2: I'm going to beat those able bodied people. I'm going 622 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 2: to do it better than them, and I'm gonna I'm 623 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 2: going to prove everybody that no matter what life throws 624 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: it to you, no matter what injuries you think you 625 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: can't get over. I'm going to prove all those people wrong. 626 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: And that right there sparks something in me. And even 627 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: til today, I love proving people wrong. I love when 628 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,479 Speaker 2: people tell me I can't do something because I'm going 629 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 2: to do it better than them, and I'm going to 630 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: make sure I do it better than everybody else. And 631 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 2: there's just the type of person that I am. 632 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong. But you hold the Paralympic 633 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: records for a few of these lifts. 634 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: Now I do I do for de dead lift and bench. 635 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 2: I just you know, it's kind of already to believe 636 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: that no one's gone after my uh after I've been 637 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: breaking them, but they're still there, you know. 638 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: And what kind of weights are we talking about here? 639 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 2: I know we're gonna ask at the time when I 640 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 2: did it. I did lift at six sixty five. Then 641 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: uh then unofficially I've lifted on six ninety five, and 642 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 2: then bench was my bench on the world records, I 643 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 2: believe it was four five instance, then the unofficial that 644 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 2: I pushed was for eighty five. 645 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: I am trying to imagine what seven hundred pounds like 646 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: what even is seven hundred pounds to compare to lifting 647 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: seven hundred pounds, Like it's a car seven hundred pounds, 648 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: Like I don't even know. I think it's lighter than that. 649 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know either, you know, like 650 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 2: I never I never did it competitively in high school. 651 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: It was never. None of that is just uh, I 652 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 2: don't know how to explain. It was just a gift 653 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: that I was giving that I found owned to come 654 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 2: from all my injuries. It was something that was there 655 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: that I had never really taken a look at and 656 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 2: you know, like pursuited to see what potential it had 657 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: till I did. And you know, now, it's just it's 658 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 2: just one of those things. I'm glad I did it, 659 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: and I'm glad that I had those those people behind me. 660 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 2: And I really don't care if there's one or there's 661 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: a one hundred thousand people in the building. I think 662 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: to shut everything out. I'm focused on what's in front 663 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 2: of me. I'm focused on what I got to do. 664 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 2: I'm focused that I performed at my best. I'm kind 665 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 2: of like being down range, you know, when we did 666 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 2: patrols and we were going door to door or we 667 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 2: were gonna mission trying to find a bad guy. Everything 668 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: shuts down, everything is slow, smooth and fast, and you 669 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 2: try to take everything in your everything kind of you 670 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 2: ever seen those movies where everything slows down but it's fat. Yeah, 671 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 2: that's what happens to me. That what had that, That's 672 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 2: what it used to happen overseas, And that's what happens 673 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: when I do stuff like that. Everything shuts down, everything 674 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,479 Speaker 2: slows down, and next thing you know, you know, we're 675 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 2: done with everything. But it was smooth as that sat 676 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 2: as smooth. It's just concentration and you get to that 677 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 2: place where nothing matters, nothing, and there's just a sense 678 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: of feeling that that helps fill some sort of something 679 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 2: inside of me. Just gets full of that and makes 680 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,479 Speaker 2: me happy, even even if I don't get the lift. 681 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I've tried to get a lift seven twenty 682 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: five ones and came up halfway. I almost had it, 683 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 2: and I dropped it. And you know, most people would 684 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 2: be you know, would be torn and and now that 685 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 2: they didn't get it, but I was, I just laughed. 686 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 2: I laughed at it, and I walked away and people 687 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: were like, why are you laughing? Because they got a 688 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 2: half way and I don't know if I know any 689 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 2: other guys I could do that, And you know, I 690 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 2: was just happy about it, and I just walked away 691 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 2: and I just like it. It's just a feeling of 692 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: being there. It taken compare to both the same thing 693 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 2: with hunting, you know, as just I don't know how 694 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 2: to I really, I mean, I'm trying to explain it, 695 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 2: but it is this No. 696 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you're I think you're doing a 697 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: great job. And I think also this show is like 698 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: such an amazing perspective. I mean, this idea like, well, 699 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: I got it halfway. I think so so often, you know, 700 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: we come to a place where we're faced with a 701 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: challenge and if it doesn't go exactly as we had 702 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: hoped or planned, it's easy to view that as a failure. 703 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: But in actuality, like you are so good because of 704 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: your experience and what's happened to you at celebrating these 705 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: small wins and keeping things in perspective. 706 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's a great way to 707 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: put it. 708 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: I mean, what's on the radar now? 709 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 2: As now I've kind of stepped back and taken a 710 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 2: break from power lifting and doing all these things. Unfortunately, 711 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 2: like I mentioned earlier, infections is a big part of 712 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 2: my burns and my body and whatnot. Right now, I 713 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 2: have a open cut on my nub and it's prevented 714 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 2: me from from from power of the thing, from doing 715 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 2: heavy stuff just because it hurts, starts bleeding, you know, 716 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 2: and then the infection has been pretty bad. So we're 717 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 2: taking a break from power of the things and really 718 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 2: putting a lot of strain on my body. And as 719 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 2: I'm getting a little older, so you know, I'm definitely 720 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 2: feeling it. I'm I say, oh, I'm thirty three years old, 721 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 2: but I started doing this when when I was about 722 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 2: twenty three. It's been about ten years since because when 723 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 2: I was twenty one years old when I got wounded. 724 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 2: So I've been doing this ten plus years now, and 725 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 2: you know, you can't do it forever, right It's just 726 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: one of those things where I feel my body kind 727 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 2: of slowing down, and and I'm okay with it. I'm 728 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 2: happy with what I did and what not, But you know, 729 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna try to give it another crack 730 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 2: here soon as soon as my life it was up, 731 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm going to go after it and then 732 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 2: see what I can accomplish, and then you know, product 733 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 2: with and retire from the sport. 734 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean in terms of the public speaking, 735 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: I can only imagine how rewarding that is to know 736 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: that you know your experiences, your stories, you're what you 737 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: have to say is really leaving an impact on so 738 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 1: many people. 739 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 2: I love it for that simple fact that you know, 740 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 2: we as humans tend to look for inspiration from others. 741 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 2: And one of the biggest things that I've noticed is 742 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 2: when I do when I do my speeches, I've always 743 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 2: have people come up to me and one of the 744 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 2: most commonly said statements is I could never do what 745 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 2: she did. And I stopped them right the end of 746 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 2: every single time because they're selling themselves short. And I 747 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 2: always tell them, you're selling yourself short. You don't know 748 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 2: what you're capable of. Us as humans, every single day 749 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 2: that we wake up and fight, we're fighting to stay 750 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 2: a lot and that's what I was doing. So don't 751 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 2: ever sell yourself short. Always push forward because in the 752 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 2: moment that you're putting in whatever scenario it is, you 753 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 2: are kind of push yourself to survive and those are 754 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,720 Speaker 2: around me. So I always tell people, don't sell yourself short. 755 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 2: Keep pushing forward, and you'll be surprised what you're cable 756 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 2: of when push comes to shove. 757 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: At this point, I mean, aside from the power of 758 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: things stuff, you're going to take a step back from 759 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 1: that and speaking. Is there anything else that's on your 760 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: radar of what you want in the next you know, 761 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: five ten years. 762 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 2: You know, one of the biggest things that I that 763 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 2: I love doing as well is hunting, providing my own 764 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 2: source of food for me and my family. And you know, 765 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 2: ten five teen years from now, what I want to 766 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 2: do is actually buy some land, air and taxis, have 767 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 2: my own with a ranch where I can invite other 768 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 2: wounded veterans to come and hunt and put food on 769 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 2: their tables and step away from from their every day 770 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 2: routine that they have, you know, step out of the 771 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 2: cell phone area, step out of the social media platforms. 772 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 2: And I say that, but you know, I try as 773 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 2: much as I can, and you try to stay off 774 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 2: of Instagram and tasook and all that. But I ask 775 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 2: what I want to do, and when I'm bringing these 776 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 2: guys out and reset themselves, and even if they don't 777 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 2: want to hunt, just come out and hang out in 778 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 2: the country and taking a deep breath of fresh air 779 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 2: and just relax. No agenda, nothing, no pictures, no, none 780 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 2: of that stuff. Just come out, relax. If you want 781 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 2: to talk with us, talk, I'm here, and try to 782 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 2: help as many other veterans as I can and try 783 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 2: to give them a platform on social media like the 784 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 2: one that I've been blessed that to have and inspire 785 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 2: others with and want others veterans to succeed and have 786 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 2: the same thing totally. 787 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: And you mentioned social media. I feel like that's just 788 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: one of the things that can be kind of hard 789 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: about coming back home, right. 790 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is the especially because there's there's you know, 791 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 2: social media is such a great tool. I love it. 792 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 2: It is stressful. There's such a huge division in this 793 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 2: country where people for some reason are looking to fight 794 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 2: online and if you don't agree with somebody certain political 795 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 2: views and then you're against them, and I just it 796 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 2: always hurts me. It hurts me deep inside seeing the 797 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 2: team that other Americans are fighting with other Americans just 798 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 2: because they don't agree with what's going on in this country. 799 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 2: And it's just that's probably the only thing that I 800 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 2: that I could speak negative on that is. That part 801 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 2: is where people are constantly fighting online with one another, 802 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 2: are just being mean, and then you see the hatred 803 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 2: of some people on there, and it's it's kind of 804 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 2: you know, it's just it's just it just bothers me 805 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 2: a lot, because you know, I don't I don't care 806 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 2: about religions, I don't care about your your sex preference. 807 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 2: I don't don't care where you come from. I don't care 808 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 2: if you're an American. I love you and I love 809 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 2: who you are. And I think we all need to 810 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 2: do that. We don't need to realize that we're all Americans. 811 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 2: We're all in this together, regardless of what you think 812 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 2: or what you believe in. We're all here for one another. 813 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 2: And I think we need to get back to that. 814 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 2: And that's the only thing that I don't really like 815 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 2: about social media right now. 816 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: I think it's really awesome and special when you look 817 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: at the stuff that you're putting out there and just 818 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: all the positive things that people are saying in the 819 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: comments on your page. I mean, you definitely have a 820 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 1: great platform there. I think I saw the other day 821 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: it's upward as a two hundred and fifty thousand people. 822 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, two hundred and fifty thousand. I'm truly, like 823 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 2: I said, it's really less to have all those people 824 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 2: look at what I do and being so supportive because 825 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 2: I try to do as much as I can. Having 826 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 2: a platform like that, I love, love connecting with people, 827 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 2: and I know a lot of great things have come 828 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 2: out of it. I've met a lot of kids that 829 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 2: have suffered from burns, and I try to be in 830 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 2: the lives as much as possible. I've grown to different 831 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 2: parts of the country to meet these kids, and we've 832 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 2: done a lot of great things online. We had. I 833 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 2: met this young man named Owen who had been He 834 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 2: was burned as a young kid. You know, he's ten 835 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 2: years old now, but he was burned when he was 836 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 2: six months old and he's growing up his whole life 837 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 2: like that. And I can't relate to that because, you know, 838 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 2: I grew up just an all American background. I played football, 839 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 2: I was good at it, I lived in Texas, I 840 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,879 Speaker 2: did all types of things you can think of, and 841 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 2: I was fine with my injuries. But growing up as 842 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 2: a kid and realizing how mean some kids can be 843 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 2: in this world is you know, it really broke my 844 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 2: heart to see this kid being picked on because he 845 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 2: was burned. It wasn't his fault, but he was burning. 846 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 2: He was being picked on. So I've taken to the 847 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 2: liking of that when people sending messages and stuff like that, 848 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 2: I try to do grafing for these kids, and I 849 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 2: try to get all my followers involved and we hit that. 850 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 2: We did one year. This kid loves hats. He's got 851 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,879 Speaker 2: to wear a hat everywhere he goes because his head 852 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 2: is so badly burned that the sun will literally sunburn 853 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 2: and skin make blistens and he be bleeding everywhere. So 854 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 2: I put it out. I was like, Hey, this is 855 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 2: his address. I would love to see how many hats 856 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 2: you can get out there. And we lost count at 857 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 2: TRED and if you. 858 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: Had, Wow, that's so so awesome. 859 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 2: It is. It's super awesome. And that's what I love 860 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 2: about about the platform that I've been given, that we 861 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 2: can come together and do cool things like that and 862 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,720 Speaker 2: and just make somebody's day. And let let lettle Owen 863 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 2: know that, Hey, buddy, you know, we know the world 864 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 2: can be cruel at times, but we're here. We have 865 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 2: your back, and no matter what, you can always reach 866 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 2: out and we'll be here for you. 867 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: I've got to ask you. I mean a lot of 868 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,240 Speaker 1: people they look at Owen and they see the burns 869 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: you look. They look, they come to your Instagram profile page, 870 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: they see you on social media, they see the burns. 871 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: When you look in the mirror yourself, what is it 872 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: that you see looking back at you. 873 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 2: Honestly, every time I look in the mirror, I no 874 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 2: longer see my injuries. It's crazy. I see myself as 875 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 2: I used to what I used to look like. I mean, 876 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 2: I know I'm different, I know my hands are different. 877 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 2: I know that I'm not that, but I still I 878 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 2: still see that person before the before the accident. And 879 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 2: then that's what gives me kind of the confidence to 880 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,879 Speaker 2: do what I do every single day, and it keeps 881 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 2: me going just because I'm able to do that. I 882 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 2: don't think I've ever told anybody that. 883 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 1: Hey, you know you you are your own biggest type man, 884 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: and I firmly believe that in life, you have to 885 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: believe in yourself first for other people to see what 886 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: you see. 887 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 2: Amen. 888 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 1: I always close the podcast by asking the same question. 889 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 1: Right now, if you had the opportunity to give the 890 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 1: omar a piece of advice, the guy who is you 891 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: know at his hurdle moment, going through that tough time 892 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: acclimating back into society, hanging out with the wrong crowd. 893 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: He gets into fitness, he gets into exercise, and he 894 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: knows he looks different, but he's working the best he 895 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: can to do the best he can with what he has. 896 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: What kind of advice do you give him? Looking back 897 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 1: on it right. 898 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 2: Now, I wouldn't give myself any advice. Let it be, 899 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 2: and I'll let anything everything that's that happened, I just 900 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 2: let it be because today I'm at a place where 901 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 2: I am comfortable with myself. I am happy. And I 902 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 2: wrote something earlier today that said, once the heart feels less, 903 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 2: a smile is real. And I went through a lot 904 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 2: of struggles. I went through a lot of tribulations to 905 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,839 Speaker 2: be where I'm at today, and I learned from all 906 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 2: that stuff. So I wouldn't want to be able to 907 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 2: go back and then spoil something and be like, hey, 908 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 2: this is going to happen, bro, just get ready. I 909 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 2: would never want to do that. I think everything that 910 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 2: I've been through in life has made me who I 911 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 2: am today, and I was just I just go back 912 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 2: and watch me do it all over again. That's all 913 00:46:58,520 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 2: I would do. 914 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: Wow, what a perspective, Omar. Thank you so much for 915 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: giving me your time, for your service, and for your perspective. 916 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: There are so many people that are just benefiting from 917 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: what you have to put into the world, and it's 918 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 1: really really special. 919 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate that. 920 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 1: Please take a moment to leave a quick review by 921 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: clicking the link with the description to this episode. We 922 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 1: all face multiple hurdles in life. I want to hear 923 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: about yours. Reach out to me at Emily at hurdle 924 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: dot us. Connect with the podcast on Instagram and Twitter 925 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: at Hurdle Podcast. Omar. Where do they find you on 926 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 1: social media? How can they connect with you? Give me 927 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: the details? 928 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, everything from Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube. I am 929 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 2: under Chrispy eleven B. 930 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 1: I love it. What's the eleven B? 931 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 2: That's just the classification in the military to stand that's infantry. 932 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 2: That's all right. 933 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: Well, thank you again for your time. Another hurdle conquered. 934 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:53,720 Speaker 1: Catch you guys next time. 935 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 2: M